>> THE FOLLOWING IS A
PRESENTATION OF WISCONSIN
PUBLIC TELEVISION.
>> IT'S THE BEST OF "WEEKEND."
TONIGHT, AN ENCORE PRESENTATION
OF SOME OF OUR BEST FEATURE
REPORTING, BEGINNING WITH PATTY
LOEW'S STORY OF A UNIQUE
GATHERING OF BREAST CANCER
SURVIVORS ON MADELINE ISLAND.
>> YOU'RE CALLED HERE TO THIS
HEALING ISLAND TO GO ON YOUR
HEALING JOURNEY.
>> THE JOURNEY FOR NEARLY ALL
THE WOMEN IN THIS CIRCLE BEGAN
WITH A DIAGNOSIS OF BREAST
CANCER.
EACH IS UNDERGOING OR HAS
UNDERGONE STANDARD TREATMENTS,
SURGERY, RADIATION,
CHEMOTHERAPY, TO HEAL THEIR
BODIES.
THEY HAVE COME HERE TO MADELINE
ISLAND TO HEAL THEIR SOULS.
>> I LOST SOMETHING, YOU KNOW,
NOT JUST A BODY PART.
>> IT STOPPED ME IN MY TRACKS.
IT MADE ME THINK.
IT MADE ME FIGHT FOR MY LIFE.
>> I LEFT THAT INITIAL ANGRY
STAGE, AND THEN I WENT THROUGH
THESE OTHER STAGES, AND THEN I
FOUND THE ANGER BUBBLE BACK UP.
>> I HAVE A STRONG FAITH IN GOD,
AND I TRIED TO FEEL ANGER AT GOD
FOR ALLOWING THIS TO HAPPEN.
BUT THAT'S NEVER COME.
>> AND THE IDEA OF FEELING LIKE,
AS A MOTHER, YOU'VE JUST PLACED
THIS ONUS ON YOUR DAUGHTER, IT'S
THE GUILT THING.
>> FOR THREE DAYS ON AN ISLAND
TREASURED BY NATIVE WOMEN FOR
ITS TRADITIONAL MEDICINES,
SURROUNDED BY A LAKE REVERED BY
MANY FOR ITS HEALING QUALITIES,
THE BREAST CANCER RECOVERY
FOUNDATION OFFERS WOMEN A SAFE,
PEACEFUL PLACE TO REFLECT AND
SHARE.
>> IT'S A BIG DARK THING,
IT CAN BE.
IT'S VERY POWERFUL.
>> FOR ANN HANEY, LAKE SUPERIOR
IS A METAPHOR FOR CANCER.
>> ALL THE POWER IS ON THE
INSIDE.
AND IT IS WITH WOMEN.
AND THAT AS YOU LOOK ACROSS THAT
LAKE, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON
THE OTHER SIDE.
>> HANEY FOUNDED THE BREAST
CANCER RECOVERY FOUNDATION FOUR
YEARS AGO, AFTER HER OWN BATTLE
WITH BREAST CANCER.
THE CENTERPIECE OF THE
FOUNDATION'S WORK IS THE ANNUAL
RETREAT TO MADELINE ISLAND.
>> IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE MUCH
WHEN YOU DESCRIBE IT TO PEOPLE
THEY ARE LIKE OKAY, IF THAT'S
WHAT YOU DO AT RETREAT.
BUT TRULY, I MEAN, THERE AREN'T
ANY REAL SILVER BULLETS IN LIFE.
AND HERE, WE HAVE FOUND A VERY
PEACE GIVING, A VERY HEALING,
A VERY RECOVERING ENVIRONMENT
BY SHARING.
IT IS VERY, VERY SIMPLE, BUT
THAT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN
TO.
>> THERE'S A MEDIUM LEVEL OF
MOVEMENT...
>> THE EMPHASIS IS ON HEALING
MIND AND BODY.
ACTIVITIES, ALWAYS OPTIONAL,
RANGE FROM LOW-IMPACT TAI CHI
TO KAYAKING AND EMBRACE AN ARRAY
OF CULTURES, FROM EAST INDIAN TO
AMERICAN INDIAN.
SOME PROJECTS PROMOTE
CONVERSATION AND ALLOW WOMEN
TIME TO CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER.
>> IT ISN'T HARD, IS IT ?
>> OH, NO.
( women laugh )
>> YES!
>> DON'T ENCOURAGE HER, RITA !
>> THE BIRCH BARK BASKET MAKING,
THE NATIVE BEADING, BECAUSE WE
DO NATIVE AMERICAN STYLE
BEADING, IS SOMETHING THAT HELPS
EXPAND US IN A CULTURAL WAY,
MULTICULTURAL.
>> FOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,
JEAN SCOTT, THE RETREAT OFFERS
WOMEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE
INFINITE BOUNDARIES.
*
>> JUST LIKE THAT.
SEE HOW EASY THAT IS ?
NO EFFORT INVOLVED--
YOU CAN FISH ALL DAY THAT WAY.
>> WHOOPS !
*
>> YOU'LL FIND THAT IN ALL
INDIGENOUS CULTURES, WE HONOR
THE EARTH, HONOR THE TREES,
HONOR THE PLANTS.
>> WATCH THIS.
WHILE I'M PADDLING ALONG
FRONTWARDS, IF I WANT TO GO
BACK, I'M GOING TO USE THIS
BLADE, COME TO THE BACK OF THE
BOAT AND PUSH FORWARD.
>> UH-OH !
>> UH-OH IS RIGHT !
>> WHY KAYAKING ?
>> A DIAGNOSIS OF CANCER CAN
SORT OF MAKE PEOPLE SHRINK A
LITTLE BIT AND FEEL THEIR WORLD
IS UNSAFE.
AND TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS SO
DIFFERENT THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY
BRAG ABOUT AND SAY,
"GUESS WHAT I DID THIS WEEKEND,
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE
IT !"
>> ONE OF THE THINGS WE WERE
THINKING ABOUT CALLING THIS
SECTION OF THE PROGRAM WAS,
"OH, WHERE, OH, WHERE DID MY
LIBIDO GO ?"
( laughter )
>> IN THE SPIRIT OF PUSHING
BOUNDARIES, THE RETREAT INCLUDES
A FRANK DISCUSSION ABOUT SEXUAL
BOUNDARIES, ABOUT DEALING WITH
DISFIGUREMENT AND SELF-ESTEEM
ISSUES.
>> THE POINT THAT MANY PEOPLE
WHO HAVEN'T HAD BREAST CANCER
SAY MY GOODNESS, YOU'RE STILL
ALIVE, YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY.
AND WE ARE.
WE'RE VERY, VERY HAPPY.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO RETURN TO
THAT PART OF OUR LIVES THAT GAVE
US GREAT JOY, AS WELL.
AND THAT'S OUR SENSUALITY AND
OUR SEXUALITY.
AND YOU HAVE TO WORK AT IT TO
GET BACK TO IT.
>> OTHER SESSIONS DEAL WITH
EXCRUCIATING ISSUES THE WOMEN
CONFRONT ON A DAILY BASIS--
ANGER, GUILT AND FEAR.
>> I HAVE THE FEAR THAT AS THE
PAIN IS TAKEN AWAY, MY ABILITY
TO RELATE TO PEOPLE WILL
PROBABLY BE TAKEN AWAY.
YOU KNOW, WITH MORPHINE AND ALL
THOSE THINGS.
THAT I WON'T BE IN PAIN, BUT I
WON'T BE ME, EITHER.
>> YOU HAVE THAT VISION OF THAT
TINY LITTLE LUMP THAT YOU FOUND
AND IT'S LIKE I KNOW I'M GOING
TO FEEL IT AGAIN.
AND IT'S--
THAT'S REALLY SCARY.
>> AND WHEN THIS HAPPENED, I WAS
SO AFRAID, BECAUSE I WAS SO
ALONE.
IT WAS SO HARD TO HAVE FAMILY SO
FAR AWAY.
AND EVEN THOUGH THEY TRIED TO BE
THERE, AND THEY WERE THERE ON
OCCASION, I WAS ALONE A LOT.
YOU REALLY ARE DIGGING DEEPLY
FOR YOUR FEELINGS, TRYING TO GET
A HANDLE ON YOUR FEELINGS,
BECAUSE LIKE MOST BAD FEELINGS,
WE TEND TO STUFF THEM.
BUT I THINK IT GAVE US AN
OPPORTUNITY IN A VERY SHELTERED,
PROTECTED, OKAY ENVIRONMENT, TO
BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THOSE
FEELINGS.
AND TO KNOW WE WOULD BE
SUPPORTED AND LOVED.
>> OVER THE YEARS, WE'VE LEARNED
THAT THE HEALING THAT'S GONE ON
THIS WEEKEND IS REALLY SEALED
WITH THIS CEREMONY.
>> IN THIS CONTAINER, THE WEIGHT
OF CANCER MEASURED IN FEAR,
ANGER AND SORROW.
IN THIS, THE LIGHTNESS OF BEING,
OF BEAUTY AND BLESSINGS.
>> I APPRECIATE ALL THE LAUGHTER
AND THE TEARS, AND TO GET TO
KNOW ALL OF YOU.
>> I THANK GOD FOR THIS
OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SHARED THIS
WEEKEND WITH SUCH A WONDERFUL
GROUP OF WOMEN.
I'LL NEVER FORGET ANY OF YOU.
>> FOR SOME BREAST CANCER
SURVIVORS, IT TAKES A LAKE AS
DEEP AS SUPERIOR TO ABSORB THE
EMOTIONAL PAIN THAT ACCOMPANIES
THE STRUGGLE.
AND SHARING THE BURDEN SOMEHOW
LIGHTENS IT, ALLOWING BODY AND
SOUL TO HEAL.
>> COMING UP LATER TONIGHT ON
"WEEKEND," THE TERM "LONE WOLF"
ISN'T TOO FAR FROM REALITY.
WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW THIS
ENDANGERED SPECIES IS TRYING TO
SURVIVE IN WISCONSIN'S
WILDERNESS AREAS.
BUT COMING UP FIRST, HOW WOULD
YOU LIKE TO BUILD A NEW HOME IN
A NICE SUBDIVISION, ONLY TO FIND
OUT LATER THAT THE SUBDIVISION'S
NICKNAME IS "ARSENIC ALLEY."
THAT'S NEXT ON "WEEKEND."
>> WATER IS FREQUENTLY ON THE
MINDS OF MANY WISCONSIN
RESIDENTS.
THE FOLKS IN ADAMS COUNTY HAVE
BEEN IMMERSED IN A CONTROVERSY
OVER BOTTLING SPRING WATER.
LOW WATER LEVELS IN LAKE
MICHIGAN HAVE SCIENTISTS
SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS.
AND RESIDENTS IN ALGOMA, JUST
OUTSIDE OF OSHKOSH, ARE
CONTENDING WITH ARSENIC IN THEIR
WELLS.
ALL THESE WATER WORRIES, AND
MORE, WERE SUBJECTS IN A RECENT
DOCUMENTARY PRODUCED BY
"WEEKEND'S" ART HACKETT.
THE SHOW WAS CALLED "WATER RICH,
WATER POOR."
IT FIRST AIRED IN SEPTEMBER OF
2000, BUT THE ISSUES REMAIN TRUE
TODAY, INCLUDING THE PROBLEMS IN
A PLACE RESIDENTS CALL "ARSENIC
ALLEY."
>> AS INCREASED USE OF
GROUNDWATER PUTS AQUIFERS UNDER
STRESS, THERE CAN BE MORE THAN
JUST PROBLEMS OF TOO LITTLE
WATER OR REDUCED STREAM FLOWS.
SOMETIMES IT CAUSES WATER
QUALITY PROBLEMS THAT CAN
PRESENT HEALTH RISKS.
>> THEY LEFT US A MESSAGE ON THE
ANSWERING MACHINE.
"STOP DRINKING YOUR WATER.
DON'T COOK WITH YOUR WATER."
IT WAS LIKE--
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU USE
EVERY DAY.
>> PAUL AND CHERYL BARFKNECHT
LIVE IN THE TOWN OF ALGOMA, JUST
WEST OF OSHKOSH.
WELL DRILLERS CALL THE AREA
"ARSENIC ALLEY."
>> WE KNEW WHEN WE BUILT IN '93
THAT THERE WAS A PROBLEM WITH
ARSENIC IN THE AREA.
BUT WE--
FIRST TIME HOME BUILDERS--
WE FIGURED IT WOULD BE TAKEN
CARE OF, THE WELL WOULD BE DUG
DEEP ENOUGH.
>> THIS IS AN AREA WHERE YOU DO
SEE A LOT OF HOMES REAL CLOSE
TOGETHER.
IT HAS A CITY TYPE OF LOOK,
WHERE YOU'D EXPECT THAT THERE
WOULD BE PUBLIC WATER HERE.
>> BUT DNR DRINKING WATER
SPECIALIST KELLEY O'CONNOR SAYS
THE CITY STYLE HOMES HUE TO A
COUNTRY STYLE TRADITION.
>> THEY'RE ALL ON WELLS.
I'D SAY PROBABLY 50 PERCENT OF
THESE PEOPLE OUT HERE EXCEED THE
SAFE DRINKING WATER ACT STANDARD
FOR ARSENIC.
YOU CAN SEE DOWN THE ROAD HERE
THERE'S ANOTHER WHOLE PART OF
THE SUBDIVISION BEING DEVELOPED,
ALL ON WELLS.
ODDS ARE THEY'RE ALL GOING TO
HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ARSENIC.
>> PEOPLE HAD NO IDEA THAT
ARSENIC WAS THERE.
WE WENT OUT AND WERE DOING SOME
ROUTINE SURVEILLANCE AT A
LANDFILL AND THE ARSENIC LEVELS
CAME UP.
AND WE SAID THERE MUST BE SOME
THING THAT WAS PUT IN THE
LANDFILL.
AND DOING SOME FURTHER RESEARCH
ON THAT, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
WHERE THE GROUNDWATER WAS
COMING, WHICH WAY IT WAS
FLOWING, IT WAS CLEAR THAT IT
WASN'T COMING FROM THE LANDFILL
AT ALL.
IT WAS NATURALLY OCCURRING IN
THE GROUND.
>> LEMCKE SAYS THE ARSENIC WAS
DEPOSITED WHEN THE ROCK THAT IS
NOW WISCONSIN WAS PUSHED UP FROM
BELOW.
THE TOXIC AND CARCINOGENIC
HEAVY METAL DIDN'T CAUSE A
PROBLEM UNTIL IT WAS EXPOSED TO
THE AIR.
>> HOW DID AIR GET AT IT ?
WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE A
LOT OF GROWTH, A LOT OF PEOPLE
IN THE AREA, MORE WELLS GOING
IN, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE WELLS
BOTH.
AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY DRAWING
DOWN THE WATER TABLE AND
EXPOSING THAT LAYER OF METALS TO
THE AIR.
>> THE BARFKNECHTS PURCHASED A
SYSTEM TO TRY AND REMOVE THE
ARSENIC.
>> THIS RAN UP TO OUR KITCHEN
FAUCET.
>> IT WASN'T EFFECTIVE.
NOR WAS A MORE SOPHISTICATED
SYSTEM PROVIDED ON AN
EXPERIMENTAL BASIS BY THE DNR.
THEY HOPED IT WOULD BRING THE
ARSENIC LEVEL BELOW THE FEDERAL
DRINKING WATER STANDARD OF 50
PARTS PER BILLION.
>> FOR US ON MARCH 3, OUR
ARSENIC IN THE RAW WATER
WAS 190.
AND THEN, TREATED WATER WAS DOWN
TO 90, WHICH IS STILL UNSAFE.
MACARONI AND CHEESE USES A LOT
OF WATER.
THIS IS JUST TO BOIL THE
NOODLES.
>> THE BARFKNECHTS USE BOTTLED
WATER FOR DRINKING AND COOKING.
THEY HOPE FOR THE DAY WHEN A
TREATMENT SYSTEM WILL PROVIDE
SAFE WATER AT EVERY FAUCET.
>> WHEN WE GREW UP, I MEAN, YOU
COULD DRINK OUT OF ANY FAUCET.
YOU COULD DRINK OUT OF THE HOSE
IN THE YARD.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS,
ARE YOU PUTTING THEM AT AN
INCREASED RISK ?
I THINK ABOUT IT MOST TIMES WHEN
WE GIVE THE KIDS A BATH.
>> THEIR SKIN IS JUST SO MUCH
THINNER AND ABSORBS MORE.
THEY'RE OUR BABIES, YOU KNOW.
>> A FEW MILES AWAY, A DRILLING
CREW IS DIGGING A NEW, DEEPER
WELL AT STEVE LAST'S HOME.
HIS OLD WELL WAS 40 FEET DEEP.
>> WE'RE AT ABOUT 130 FEET NOW,
AND WE'RE DRILLING TO 140 FEET.
>> THE DEEPER WELL IS REQUIRED
BY THE DROPPING WATER TABLE THAT
THE DNR BELIEVES IS RESPONSIBLE
FOR THE ARSENIC CONTAMINATION.
>> I KNOW THAT EVERY YEAR OUR
AVERAGE WELL GETS DEEPER AND
DEEPER.
WE DO GO BACK AND LOWER PUMPS ON
A REGULAR BASIS.
>> WELLS IN ARSENIC ALLEY HAVE
TO BE ENCLOSED IN A CEMENT
CASING ALL THE WAY TO THE
BOTTOM.
IF THE WELL PASSES THROUGH A
LAYER OF CONTAMINATED ROCK WITH
ARSENIC, THE HOPE IS THE CASING
WILL PREVENT THE ARSENIC FROM
LEACHING INTO THE HOME'S WATER
SUPPLY.
THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A
DIFFERENT SOLUTION: GIVING UP ON
GROUNDWATER.
THE TOWN OF ALGOMA CONSIDERED
HOOKING ALL THESE HOMES TO THE
CITY OF OSHKOSH'S WATER SYSTEM,
WHICH DRAWS WATER FROM LAKE
WINNEBAGO.
>> WELL, IT WAS BROUGHT UP.
AND THE PERSON ON THE TOWN BOARD
THAT BROUGHT IT UP WAS MORE OR
LESS ALMOST CRUCIFIED AT SPOT,
BECAUSE ALL THESE NEWER PEOPLE
HAVE NEW WELLS THEY PAID GOOD
MONEY FOR.
AND THEY DON'T WANT TO INVEST IN
MORE MONEY FOR PIPING.
I THINK AT THE TIME, IT WAS
RUMORED $10,000 TO $12,000
PER HOUSEHOLD TO GET CITY WATER
PIPED.
>> IN THE MEANTIME, THE HOMES
REMAIN TIED TO INDIVIDUAL WELLS.
PUMPING THOSE WELLS HARDER MAY
MAKE THE ARSENIC PROBLEM EVEN
WORSE.
>> WE TRY TO PROMOTE WATER
CONSERVATION.
IT WOULD TAKE QUITE A BIT OF
WATER CONSERVATION TO STOP THE
DRAW DOWN OF THE WATER TABLE.
WE'RE ESTIMATING IT'S
APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET PER YEAR
IN THIS AREA.
I JUST THINK IN THE PAST, WE'VE
ALL THOUGHT WISCONSIN IS SUCH A
WATER RICH STATE.
AND, THIS ISN'T ARIZONA.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE BROWN
LAWNS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO CONSERVE WATER.
WE'RE A WATER RICH STATE.
WELL, I THINK IT'S KIND OF
GETTING TO BE TIME TO PAY THE
PIPER.
>> SINCE THAT REPORT FIRST
AIRED, THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
RESOURCES HAS DONE EVEN MORE
SURVEYS ON ARSENIC LEVELS IN
DRINKING WATER IN WISCONSIN.
THE DNR'S FIGURES SHOW ABOUT
SIX AND A HALF PERCENT OF PUBLIC
WATER SYSTEMS IN WISCONSIN HAVE
ARSENIC LEVELS ABOVE NEW
FEDERAL LIMITS THAT TAKE EFFECT
IN THE SUMMER OF 2001.
A SURVEY OF PRIVATE WELLS IN THE
TOWN OF ALGOMA AND NEARBY
TOWNSHIPS FOUND THAT BETWEEN 25
AND 50 PERCENT OF THOSE
HOUSEHOLD WELLS WOULD NOT MEET
THE NEW FEDERAL STANDARDS.
PATTY ?
>> NOT ALL NEWS INVOLVING THE
ENVIRONMENT IS BAD.
BY MOST MEASURES, WISCONSIN'S
ENDANGERED RESOURCES PROGRAM HAS
BEEN HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL.
SWANS, EAGLES, WOLVES, ELK--
POPULATIONS THAT HAD NEARLY
DISAPPEARED OR DISAPPEARED
ENTIRELY FROM THE STATE ARE
MAKING THEIR WAY BACK, WHICH
CALLS FOR SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND
ACCOMMODATION ON THE PART OF
HUMANS.
TONIGHT, WE LOOK AT THE
EXPECTATIONS OF CONSERVATION
BIOLOGISTS AND THE STAKE WE ALL
HAVE IN BIODIVERSITY.
THE WOLF, THE BIG BAD WOLF,
BANE OF BEDTIME STORIES,
ANTI-HERO OF HOLLYWOOD
FRIGHT FLICKS.
>> I THINK A LOT OF IT GOES BACK
TO OUR EUROPEAN ANCESTORS, THAT
PEOPLE WHO RAISE LIVESTOCK, WHO
LIVE IN AGRICULTURAL SYSTEMS
FEEL MORE THREATENED BY
PREDATORS, WOLVES ARE PROBABLY
SEEN AS A VERY SINISTER ANIMAL
BECAUSE IT STOLE FROM THEM.
>> IN WISCONSIN, THIS
TRADITIONAL ANIMOSITY REFLECTED
ITSELF IN BOUNTIES.
THE STATE SOMETIMES PAID AS MUCH
AS $20 FOR EACH WOLF HIDE.
BY 1914, WOLVES HAD DISAPPEARED
FROM THE WISCONSIN LANDSCAPE.
>> IN THE '60s AND '70s, WE
STARTED TO RECOGNIZE THAT OUR
ECOSYSTEMS WERE INCOMPLETE
WITHOUT THESE LARGE PREDATORS.
THERE WAS A MOVE TO PROTECT AND
RE-ESTABLISH PREDATORS IN THE
ECOSYSTEM AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO
RETURN.
>> IN THE MID-1970s, TIMBER
WOLVES BEGAN MIGRATING FROM
MINNESOTA TO WISCONSIN.
SINCE THEN, THE POPULATION HERE
HAS STEADILY CLIMBED.
AN ESTIMATED 200 WOLVES AND
54 PACKS NOW ROAM THE NORTHERN
AND CENTRAL FOREST REGIONS OF
THE STATE.
WOLVES FEED ON WHITE-TAILED DEER
AND ELK, WHICH THE DNR HAS ALSO
REINTRODUCED.
BUT WOLVES HAVE AND WILL
CONTINUE TO FEED ON PETS AND
LIVESTOCK.
STATE REPRESENTATIVE DUWAYNE
JOHNSRUD, THE CHAIR OF THE
ASSEMBLY NATURAL RESOURCES
COMMITTEE, SAYS COMPENSATION TO
THOSE WHO HAVE SUFFERED LOSSES
AT THE HANDS OF WOLVES MAY NOT
BE ENOUGH.
>> IF A WOLF IS ATTACKING ONE OF
MY FARM ANIMALS, I FEEL I HAVE A
RIGHT TO DESTROY IT TO PREVENT
IT FROM DESTROYING MY PROPERTY
OR YOUR KIDS OR WHATEVER.
ANY SPECIES.
>> ALTHOUGH JOHNSRUD OPPOSES A
HUNTING SEASON ON TIMBER WOLVES,
HE BELIEVES IT'S NAIVE TO THINK
THAT OTHER, ONCE ENDANGERED BUT
NOW HEALTHY SPECIES, SUCH AS
SAND HILL CRANES AND MOURNING
DOVES SHOULD REMAIN OFF LIMITS.
>> WHEN YOU GET ASSOCIATIONS
CREATED BEHIND THE IDEA OF THE
HUNT, IT PROVIDES DOLLARS THAT
WE NEED.
AND WISCONSIN HAS A RICH
HERITAGE OF HUNTING.
AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE
IDEA OF HUNTING, BUT IN REALITY,
IT IS A MANAGEMENT TOOL.
>> ANOTHER CONTROVERSIAL
MANAGEMENT TOOL IS LAND USE
PLANNING.
PERHAPS THE GREATEST THREAT TO
WISCONSIN'S BIODIVERSITY IS THE
GROWTH OF VACATION HOMES, OFTEN
BUILT BY NATURE LOVERS WHO ARE
QUITE LITERALLY LOVING NATURE TO
DEATH.
>> IT'S A DIFFERENT LIFESTYLE.
SO, THE ESCAPEES THAT ARE MOVING
INTO THE COUNTRYSIDE--
AND THEY'VE WANTED TO MOVE THERE
TO EXPERIENCE THIS GREAT
BIODIVERSITY--
ALL OF A SUDDEN HAVE PARTLY
RUINED IT.
>> THE CALL OF THE WILD HAS
GENERATED SOME POSITIVE PUBLIC
AWARENESS, TOO.
THE DNR REPORTS THAT WISCONSIN
RESIDENTS CONTRIBUTE MORE THAN
$1.2 MILLION A YEAR TO ITS
BUREAU OF ENDANGERED RESOURCES.
HALF OF THIS COMES FROM
VOLUNTARY TAX CHECK-OFFS.
THE OTHER HALF FROM THE SALE OF
SPECIAL LICENSE PLATES,
FEATURING WHO ELSE ?
IT'S EASY TO GET EXCITED ABOUT
EAGLES AND CRANES AND WOLVES,
THE ATTRACTIVE POSTER CHILDREN
OF ENDANGERED RESOURCES.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THOSE LOWLY
DRAGONFLIES AND SNAILS AND THE
DOZENS OF PLANTS THAT ARE
ENDANGERED ?
THAT'S WHEN THE GOALS OF
BIODIVERSITY GET COMPLICATED.
>> TO UNDERSTAND THE NEEDS OF
THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND TO
REALIZE THAT IT'S NOT JUST
WOLVES THAT ARE LIVING OUT
THERE.
THERE ARE OTHER SPECIES.
AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO USE THE
LAND, AND WHOSE VIEWS AND
OPINIONS, EVEN IF THEY MAY
DIFFER WITH YOURS, HAVE TO BE
LISTENED TO AND RESPECTED.
>> FOR BARB ZELLMER OF THE DNR,
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO PROTECT
ENDANGERED SPECIES.
SHE IS OBLIGATED BY LAW TO
PROTECT THE HABITAT OF THE
SPECIES.
PREDATOR, PREY, PLANTS THAT
PROVIDE FOOD AND COVER ALL ARE
PART OF A COMPLEX ECOSYSTEM OF
INTERCONNECTIONS AND
INTER-DEPENDENCIES.
CONSIDER ANOTHER ENDANGERED
SPECIES, THE KARNER BLUE
BUTTERFLY.
THE KARNER BLUE FEEDS ON WILD
LUPIN, WHICH NEEDS PRAIRIE FIRE
TO REGENERATE.
AND FIRE IS PROBABLY NOT EXACTLY
IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE
26 PRIVATE LAND OWNERS,
PAPER COMPANIES AND UTILITIES
THAT SHARE THE BUTTERFLY'S
260,000-ACRE HABITAT.
>> MOST ENDANGERED SPECIES IN
THE UNITED STATES, I THINK SOME
OF THE ESTIMATES ARE THAT 80%
LIVE ON PRIVATE LANDS.
SO, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE PROPERTY
OWNERS ARE ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL
TO THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE.
>> THAT'S WHY THIS ANNOUNCEMENT
IN NORTHERN WISCONSIN IN
SEPTEMBER OF 1999 GENERATED
SO MUCH EXCITEMENT.
U.S. INTERIOR SECRETARY BRUCE
BABBITT, THREE STATE AGENCIES,
THE NATURE CONSERVANCY AND ALL
26 LAND OWNERS AGREED TO A
COMPREHENSIVE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM
TO PROTECT THE BUTTERFLY AND ITS
HABITAT.
IT'S A COOPERATIVE EFFORT THAT
OFFICIALS HOPE WILL SERVE AS A
MODEL FOR THE COUNTRY.
>> THESE AREN'T PLACES YOU NEED
TO LOCK UP SO THAT NO ONE CAN
USE THEM.
WE JUST HAVE TO BE VERY
SENSITIVE ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE
USE THEM, RECOGNIZING THAT SOME
OF THESE PLACES, PROBABLY THEIR
HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS FOR THE
PRESERVATION OF BIOLOGICAL
DIVERSITY.
>> THE TIMBER WOLF REMAINS ON
THE WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF
NATURAL RESOURCES THREATENED
SPECIES LIST.
AND CURRENTLY, THERE ARE 58
OTHER ANIMAL SPECIES ON THE
ENDANGERED OR THREATENED LIST IN
WISCONSIN.
ONLY TWO SPECIES, THE CANADA
LYNX AND THE BALD EAGLE, HAVE
BEEN TAKEN OFF THE LIST.
>> LATER TONIGHT ON "WEEKEND,"
SOME OF THE BIGGEST NAMES IN
BREWER AND BRAVE HISTORY
TURNED OUT TO SHARE THE CLOSING
MOMENTS AT MILWAUKEE COUNTY
STADIUM.
WE'LL TAKE YOU OUT TO THE BALL
PARK TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAD TO
SAY.
BUT FIRST, THE STORY OF A MAN
WHO LIVED THROUGH AN EVENT THAT
WOULD TEST HIM PHYSICALLY,
MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY.
AND WE'LL TELL YOU HOW YOU CAN
GET MEDICAL CARE RIGHT IN YOUR
OWN HOME--
WITHOUT PAYING FOR A HOUSE CALL.
THAT'S COMING UP AHEAD ON
"WEEKEND."
>> NATE KNOKE KNOWS WHAT IT
MEANS TO BEAT THE ODDS.
HE'S GOT A WONDERFUL WIFE, A
GREAT JOB AND IS A PRETTY GOOD
GOLFER.
MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE SATISFIED,
BUT NATE ISN'T LIKE MOST PEOPLE.
YOU SEE, JUST ABOUT FOUR YEARS
AGO, THE MONROE MAN FELL DOWN A
MOUNTAIN.
THE FIRST MIRACLE WAS HE LIVED.
THE SECOND MIRACLE WAS NATE NOT
ONLY SURVIVED, BUT TURNED WHAT
COULD HAVE BEEN A TRAGEDY INTO A
NEW BEGINNING.
NATE KNOKE IS THE PERFECT GOLF
PARTNER.
OH, NATE !
WHOA !
WHERE'D YOU GET THAT ?
KNOKE IS A SOLID PLAYER WHO
HAS A WAY OF MAKING YOU FEEL
GOOD ABOUT YOUR OWN GAME.
>> GOOD LOOKING SHOT, JERRY.
GREAT UP.
WOW.
>> BUT HE ALSO WIELDS A STRONG
NEEDLE--
WHINE TOO MUCH AND YOU'LL HEAR
ABOUT IT.
>> I DIDN'T GET AN EAGLE, OH !
>> NATE IS THE KIND OF PERSON
YOU WANT FOR A FRIEND.
>> I HAD CONFIDENCE.
>> CONFIDENCE IS A VERY GOOD
WORD TO DESCRIBE THIS YOUNG MAN.
HE SURVIVED A DEVASTATING FALL
DOWN A MOUNTAIN, AND IN MANY
WAYS IS STRONGER NOW THAN BEFORE
THE ACCIDENT.
>> MY MIND WASN'T WORKING WELL
ENOUGH WHERE I COULD SIT AND
THINK.
GOSH, IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE THIS
FOREVER.
ALL I WAS THINKING ABOUT IS
WHERE AM I, WHY IS THIS
GOING ON ?
WHAT CAN I DO TO GET BETTER ?
>> IT WAS THREE YEARS AGO THAT
NATE, HIS FUTURE FATHER-IN-LAW
AND A FRIEND WENT HIKING IN
MONTANA'S GLACIER NATIONAL PARK.
THESE ARE PICTURES FROM THAT
TRIP.
THREE FRIENDS ON TOP OF THE
WORLD ENJOYING LIFE.
NATE'S THE ONE IN THE RED
BASEBALL CAP.
AND NO ONE KNEW THAT ONE BAD
STEP WAS ABOUT TO SEND HIM ON
THE LONGEST JOURNEY OF HIS LIFE.
>> I BEGAN SLIDING DOWN THE ICE
PATCH.
AND YOU KNOW, BUILT UP ENOUGH
SPEED THAT WHEN THE ICE ENDED, I
WAS STILL GOING DOWN THE ROCKS,
DOWN THE SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN.
FORTUNATELY, I CAME TO REST AT
THE BASE OF A LARGE BOULDER.
>> NATE HAD JUST BOUNCED
500 FEET DOWN A MOUNTAIN.
THE BOULDER HAD BROKEN HIS FALL,
BUT EVERYONE FEARED THE WORST.
>> RICHARD, MARYANN'S FATHER,
THOUGHT FOR SURE THERE WAS NO
WAY I WAS ALIVE WHEN I STOPPED.
HE THOUGHT HE WAS GOING TO HAVE
TO GO BACK HOME AND TELL
MARYANN THAT I HAD DIED ON THE
MOUNTAIN.
>> I SAID, "WHAT DO YOU MEAN,
HE FELL ?
HE BROKE A LEG, WHAT ?"
AND NO, IT WAS A LOT MORE
SERIOUS THAN THAT.
HE'S BEING TAKEN BY HELICOPTER
TO THE HOSPITAL.
AND AT THAT POINT, ESSENTIALLY,
I JUST LET OUT SOME BLOOD
CURDLING SCREAMS.
THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD HEARD ME.
>> NATE WAS STILL ALIVE, BUT IN
A COMA.
FOR TWO WEEKS, FAMILY AND
FRIENDS WATCHED FOR ANY SIGN OF
LIFE.
>> ALL OF A SUDDEN HIS EYES FLEW
OPEN.
AND WE KNEW THAT HE WAS WAKING
UP AT THAT POINT.
AND IT WAS THAT NEXT MONDAY THAT
WE FLEW BACK TO WISCONSIN.
AND THEN, HE WAS IN MERITER FOR
A COUPLE MONTHS.
AND EVERY DAY WAS SOMETHING
GREAT THAT HAPPENED ON THE ROAD
TO RECOVERY.
>> WE USED TO GET NATE ON A
PIECE OF FOAM THAT WOULD MAKE IT
TOUGH FOR HIM TO BALANCE.
>> THIS IS WHERE NATE STARTED
PUTTING HIS LIFE BACK TOGETHER.
ONCE A COLLEGE ATHLETE, NATE WAS
NOW A TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY
SURVIVOR LEARNING TO LIVE ALL
OVER AGAIN.
>> BACK THEN, IT WAS VIRTUALLY
IMPOSSIBLE TO BALANCE LIKE THIS.
>> BY HIS OWN ADMISSION, NATE
WASN'T ALWAYS THE NICEST PERSON.
BUT THE NEW NATE WAS DIFFERENT.
>> AND EVERY DAY HE GAVE ME A
REASON TO STAY, BECAUSE EVERY
DAY HE WOULD SQUEEZE MY HAND
WHEN HE HADN'T DONE IT THE DAY
BEFORE.
HE'D WIGGLE--
YOU KNOW, THE DOCTOR WOULD SAY,
"MOVE YOUR RIGHT FOOT."
AND HE'D MOVE HIS RIGHT FOOT.
AND HE JUST KEPT COMING ALONG
FOR ME, IT FELT LIKE.
AND HE KEPT ME AND HIS MOM AND
EVERYONE ELSE GOING BY HEALING
AND RECOVERING.
>> NATE AND MARYANN WROTE WHAT
TO MANY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE
PERFECT ENDING TO THIS STORY.
A YEAR AGO, THEY WENT BACK TO
MONTANA, BUT THIS TIME, TO GET
MARRIED.
>> IT WAS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL DAY
OF MY LIFE.
YOURS, TOO, RIGHT ?
>> IN LESS THAN TWO YEARS,
NATE'S LIFE HAD GONE FROM
NEWSPAPER HEADLINES ABOUT HIS
FALL, TO CRACKING JOKES ABOUT
THE ACCIDENT.
>> I COULD BE A LOT UGLIER
THAN I AM NOW.
>> WERE YOU ALWAYS THIS FUNNY
BEFORE THE ACCIDENT ?
>> NO.
THAT WAS ANOTHER THING.
MY DAD SAYS I HAD AN IMPROVED
SENSE OF HUMOR, BECAUSE I WAS
ALWAYS CRACKING JOKES IN THE
HOSPITAL.
>> THE NATE WHO CAME OUT OF THE
HOSPITAL HAD CHANGED.
ONE GOLF BUDDY SAYS HIS FRIEND
WAS NOW A NICER PERSON.
>> YOU WOULD BE, TOO, IF YOU
FELL OFF A MOUNTAIN AND
EVERYTHING CAME OUT PRETTY MUCH
ALL RIGHT AFTERWARDS.
THERE'S NO REASON NOT TO BE
OPTIMISTIC.
>> ...THE CREW TRAINING
HARDWARE, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE
THEM FLIGHT-QUALIFIED PARTS...
>> THERE IS ONE MORE SIDE TO
NATE WE HAVEN'T TOLD YOU ABOUT
YET.
HE'S BACK AT WORK USING HIS
ENGINEERING BACKGROUND TO
COORDINATE PARTS HANDLING FOR A
NASA SPACE SHUTTLE PROJECT.
>> NASA HAS VERY STRICT
REQUIREMENTS ON US, AND IF YOU
DON'T DO ONE OF THOSE SPECIFIC
JOBS, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO FLY
SPACE FLIGHT HARDWARE.
SO, EVERY ASPECT IS IMPORTANT.
AND HE AS MUCH A PART OF IT AS
ANYBODY ELSE IN TERMS OF MAKING
THIS A SUCCESS.
>> THERE YOU GO.
>> SUCCESS IS ONCE AGAIN A
BENCHMARK OF NATE'S LIFE.
HIS RECOVERY IS INSPIRATIONAL.
HIS OPTIMISM IS CONTAGIOUS.
AND HE HAS A NEW GOAL.
>> I ENDED WITH AN EIGHT...
>> THE MAN WHO FELL DOWN A
MOUNTAIN NOW SAYS HE WANTS TO
RUN A MARATHON.
>> AND RIGHT NOW, IT'S A LONG
WAYS OFF.
BUT I FEEL THAT THAT'S SOMETHING
THAT I COULD DO.
AND ALL I HAVE TO DO IS GET THAT
FIRST MILE UNDER MY BELT.
>> A JOURNEY LIKE MANY OTHERS IN
NATE'S LIFE THAT HE WON'T HAVE
TO TAKE ALONE.
THAT NASA PROJECT NATE WAS
WORKING ON IS STILL ON TRACK,
AND SCHEDULED FOR LAUNCH IN JUST
OVER A YEAR.
AND THE BIGGEST PERSONAL GOAL
FOR NATE AND HIS WIFE IN THE NEW
YEAR ?
TO START A FAMILY.
PATTY ?
>> THE ADVENT OF THE INTERNET
HAS MEANT MANY THINGS.
AMONG THEM, PEOPLE INCREASINGLY
SEEK OUT MEDICAL ADVICE FROM WEB
SITES.
A STATEWIDE POLL CONDUCTED BY
THE "WE THE PEOPLE" PARTNERSHIP
FOUND THAT 23 PERCENT OF
WISCONSIN RESIDENTS USE THE
INTERNET TO FIND MEDICAL
INFORMATION.
BUT HOW GOOD IS THAT
INFORMATION ?
MEMBERS OF THE MEDICAL
COMMUNITY, AND PATIENTS, ARE
TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
IT WAS A TOPIC OF DEBATE AT A
"WE THE PEOPLE" CONFERENCE.
AS IT TURNS OUT, THERE ARE
PEOPLE WHO CAN HELP US SIFT
THROUGH THE WORLD OF
E-MEDICINE, AND SOME OF THOSE
PEOPLE ARE RIGHT HERE IN
WISCONSIN.
"WEEKEND" PRODUCER ART HACKETT
REPORTS.
>> THESE ARE SOME OF THE
SPECIALIZED MEDICAL INFORMATION
SITES ON THE WORLD WIDE WEB.
THEY OFFER BACKGROUND
INFORMATION ON DISEASES, TIPS ON
HEALTHY LIVING, EVEN ONLINE
PHYSICIANS WHO CAN PROVIDE
DIRECT ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS.
>> HOW MANY PEOPLE HERE HAVE
INTERNET ACCESS ?
AND HOW MANY SPEND ANY TIME
LOOKING AT HEALTH INFORMATION ?
>> WHILE MANY PEOPLE AT THIS
"WE THE PEOPLE" CONFERENCE HAVE
SEARCHED THE INTERNET FOR HEALTH
INFORMATION, THEY'RE STILL
UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE INFORMATION
THEY RECEIVE.
>> I'M A PERSON.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO GET THAT
KIND OF PERSONAL ATTENTION OVER
AN INTERNET.
I'M GOING TO GET IT SITTING DOWN
WITH MY PHYSICIAN OR NURSE
PRACTITIONER.
>> I'M CONCERNED ABOUT
ADVERTISING, THE LINK BETWEEN
OWNERSHIP AND SPONSORING.
THIS APPLIES TO ALL THE MEDIA,
BUT ESPECIALLY THESE INTERNET
SITES WHERE I'LL BE LOOKING UP A
TOPIC AND A ALL OF A SUDDEN,
DRUG IS FLASHING AT ME.
>> DR. TOM FERGUSON, OF THE
UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS, PUBLISHES A
NEWSLETTER ON ONLINE MEDICINE.
HE SAYS HIS RESEARCH SHOWS THE
RATIO OF GOOD INFORMATION TO BAD
ON THE INTERNET SEEMS TO BE
ABOUT THE SAME AS FOR
TRADITIONAL PUBLISHED
INFORMATION.
BUT THERE IS BAD INFORMATION
THERE.
>> SOME OF THEM AT SOME POINTS
HAVE MADE DECISIONS OUT OF
FINANCIAL NECESSITY THAT HAS
COMPROMISED THEIR ABILITY TO DO
GOOD CONSUMER FOCUS CONTENT,
BECAUSE THEY WERE MEETING THE
NEEDS, OR TRYING TO MEET THE
NEEDS OF THEIR ADVERTISERS.
AND IT REALLY CAME BACK TO BITE
THEM WHEN THEY DID THAT.
>> FERGUSON TOLD THE GROUP THE
MEDICAL COMMUNITY IS ONLY
STARTING TO REALIZE THE RESULTS
OF HAVING SO MUCH MEDICAL
INFORMATION ONLINE.
>> I THINK A LOT OF PHYSICIANS
DO STILL SEE CONSUMERS USING THE
INTERNET AS MORE OF A PROBLEM
THAN A SOLUTION.
IT'S SOMETIMES PUTS THEM IN AN
EMBARRASSING POSITION OF NOT
BEING UP ON THE LATEST ON THE
CONDITIONS THAT THEY ARE CARING
FOR THE PATIENTS ABOUT.
>> AS IS OFTEN THE CASE WITH THE
INTERNET, SOCIETY HAS A HARD
TIME KEEPING UP WITH TECHNOLOGY.
SITES GO UP, RESEARCH, IF ANY,
HAPPENS LATER.
>> THIS IS WHERE SOMEONE WOULD
COME UP WHEN THEY FIRST GET TO
CHESS.
>> BUT IT TURNS OUT RESEARCHERS
IN MADISON HAVE BEEN STUDYING
ONLINE MEDICINE FOR OVER
TEN YEARS.
"CHESS," WHICH IS SHORT FOR
COMPREHENSIVE HEALTH ENHANCEMENT
SUPPORT SYSTEM,
PREDATES WINDOWS.
FIONA McTAVISH HAS BEEN
OVERSEEING THE BREAST CANCER
PORTION OF CHESS SINCE SHORTLY
AFTER IT STARTED AS AN
ELECTRONIC BULLETIN BOARD BACKED
UP WITH FILES OF INFORMATION
LOADED ON HOME COMPUTERS.
CHESS DEALT AT FIRST WITH H.I.V.
INFECTION AND BREAST CANCER.
>> WE NEEDED TO MAKE SOMETHING
THAT WAS AVAILABLE TO A WOMAN OR
A MAN, DEPENDING ON THE DISEASE,
ANYTIME OF DAY THAT THEY COULD
USE IT ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT
TROUBLE.
>> PATIENTS ARE REFERRED TO THE
SITE AND GIVEN PASSWORDS TO LOG
ON AFTER THEY ARE DIAGNOSED.
THE SITE IS OPERATED FOR
RESEARCH PURPOSES, AS MUCH AS
FOR THE HELP IT GIVES PATIENTS.
UNLIKE THE MASS MARKET WEB
SITES, CHESS SERVES ONLY 800 TO
1,000 PATIENTS.
>> WE HAVE A MORE GUIDED SYSTEM.
SO, IF I'M LOOKING FOR
SOMETHING--
IF I'M LOOKING TO FIND OUT THE
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN SURGERY, I
CAN GO IN QUESTION AND ANSWER
AND SAY, YOU KNOW,
"WHAT IS A MASTECTOMY ?"
AND "WHAT IS A LUMPECTOMY ?"
AND I CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION.
IF YOU GO ON DIFFERENT HEALTH
SITES, I CAN LITERALLY SPEND AN
HOUR TRYING TO FIND WHERE THE
HECK I FIND THAT EVEN THAT
INFORMATION ABOUT SURGERY.
>> I'VE LEARNED A LOT, I THINK,
IS THE BIGGEST THING.
I HAVE REALLY FOUND IT USEFUL TO
LEARN A LOT ABOUT THE DISEASE
THAT I HAVE.
>> ELLEN, OF THE VILLAGE OF
OREGON, HAS BEEN A PARTICIPANT
IN CHESS FOR OVER A YEAR.
SHE HAS BREAST CANCER.
>> THE MOST USEFUL FOR ME,
PERSONALLY, IS THE SUPPORT GROUP
PART.
I KEEP IN TOUCH WITH SOME OF THE
WOMEN, WE GET TOGETHER.
I'VE MADE SOME VERY GOOD
FRIENDS.
>> MARENDAZ PREFERS THE SMALL
DISCUSSION GROUP LIMITED TO
WISCONSIN CHESS PARTICIPANTS TO
THE LARGER GROUP, WHICH INCLUDES
PEOPLE WITH BREAST CANCER FROM
ALL OVER NORTH AMERICA.
>> SOMEBODY ASKS SOME QUESTIONS
REGARDING CLINICAL TRIALS AND
REGARDING SOME OF THE CHEMO THAT
SOMEBODY ELSE WAS HAVING, SO WE
GIVE EACH OTHER ADVICE.
SOMETIMES, TAXOL GIVES PEOPLE AN
ALLERGIC REACTION.
AND SHE DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
>> MARENDAZ HAS CHECKED OUT SOME
OF THE MASS MARKET WEB SITES.
AS IT TURNED OUT, WHEN WE
VISITED ONE OF THEM, THE FRONT
PAGE INCLUDED AN ARTICLE ON
BREAST CANCER.
>> I'VE LOOKED AT "DR. KOOP" AND
SOME OF SUSAN LOVE'S BREAST
CANCER ONE.
THAT'S FAIRLY NEW.
I JUST STARTED LOOKING AT THAT.
YOU KNOW, SHE ALSO ANSWERS
QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT,
BUT IT'S ALSO MUCH--
THEY ALSO HAVE SUPPORT GROUPS.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S A MUCH LARGER
GROUP.
>> MARENDAZ SAYS SHE USED THE
WEB TO GET A SECOND OPINION
REGARDING HER TREATMENT.
HER DOCTOR DIDN'T SEEM TO MIND.
>> I THINK MY DOCTOR APPRECIATES
THAT I KNOW MORE.
HE SAYS, "OH, TELL ME, HAVE YOU
LEARNED ANYTHING NEW FROM THE
WEB ?"
OR, FROM MY OTHER SUPPORT GROUP,
ESPECIALLY, BECAUSE, FOR
EXAMPLE, ABOUT THE INFLAMMATORY
BREAST CANCER.
SO, HE WILL ASK ME.
AND HE'LL APPRECIATE THE FACT
THAT I GET INFORMATION, AS LONG
AS IT'S RELIABLE INFORMATION.
>> FIONA McTAVISH SAYS DOCTOR
REACTION WAS ONE OF THE AREAS
THE CHESS RESEARCH COVERED.
>> FOR THE MOST PART, I THINK
THEY HAVE BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE.
I THINK IT'S COME TO A POINT
WHERE PEOPLE REALIZE THEY CAN'T
STOP THE INTERNET.
DOCTORS CAN'T STOP IT,
NOBODY CAN.
SO, WHAT THEY ARE HAPPY ABOUT,
WITH THE CHESS-TYPE SYSTEM, IS
THEY KNOW THE INFORMATION THAT
THEIR PATIENTS ARE GETTING IS
GOOD INFORMATION.
>> THE ONE DRAWBACK OF CHESS IS
THAT IT ISN'T AVAILABLE TO
PATIENTS UNTIL AFTER THEY ARE
DIAGNOSED.
IT DOESN'T SERVE THE WOMAN WHO
JUST FELT A LUMP IN HER BREAST
AND IS WAITING TO SEE THE
DOCTOR.
>> THAT'S WHERE I THINK, YOU
KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER HEALTH
SITES ARE REALLY GREAT, BECAUSE
THEY TOUCH ON SOME OF THE BASICS
OF THE DISEASES.
WHAT WE FIND ON MOST OF THE
OTHER HEALTH SITES IS THEY SPAN
A HUGE NUMBER OF ISSUES, WHICH
IS GREAT, BUT THEY ONLY GO THIS
DEEP.
>> I WOULD RECOMMEND GOING TO
ONE OF THE GOOD SEARCH ENGINES,
ONE OF THE RELIABLE ONES, AND
LOOKING UP "BREAST CANCER."
IT'S A VERY LONG LIST.
BUT, FOR EXAMPLE, HERE...
YOU CAN LOOK UNDER "DISEASES AND
CONDITIONS."
AND HERE...
DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE BREAST
CANCER DECISION GUIDE.
THAT'S A VERY--
THAT'S A GOOD ONE FOR WOMEN WHO
ARE JUST DIAGNOSED.
IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT CHESS HAS.
IT'S A DECISION GUIDE.
>> DR. TOM FERGUSON SAYS THE
FUTURE PROBABLY LIES IN MASS
MARKET SITES.
AND THAT FUTURE WILL CARRY THE
MEDICAL PROFESSION WITH IT.
>> YOU CAN GET MORE INFORMATION
ON E-MEDICINE BY CHECKING OUT
THE "WEEKEND" WEB SITE AT:
www.wpt.org/weekend
REMEMBER, IF YOU DON'T HAVE A
COMPUTER, MOST PUBLIC LIBRARIES
AROUND THE STATE OFFER FREE
INTERNET ACCESS.
>> COMING UP NEXT ON "WEEKEND,"
THE HEYDAY OF THE SMALL DAIRY
FARMER MAY BE ENDING.
BUT IS BIGGER NECESSARILY
BETTER ?
ART HACKETT LOOKS AT WISCONSIN'S
DAIRY FARMING FUTURE, NEXT ON
"WEEKEND."
>> WISCONSIN'S DEPARTMENT OF
NATURAL RESOURCES AND LOCAL
ZONING BOARDS FREQUENTLY HAVE TO
REFEREE A DISPUTE THAT INVOLVES
ECONOMIC, AS WELL AS
ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.
THAT DISPUTE INVOLVES LARGE
DAIRY FARMS THAT ARE POPPING UP
ALL ACROSS WISCONSIN.
THESE FARMS HAVE HERDS OF 1,000
OR MORE COWS.
PUBLISHED STANDARDS PROVIDE SOME
GUIDANCE ON ENVIRONMENTAL
ISSUES, BUT ARE LARGE DIARIES A
GOOD THING FOR THE STATE'S DAIRY
ECONOMY ?
WILL THEY BE THE MOST PROFITABLE
ALTERNATIVE FOR THE FARMERS WHO
BUILD THEM ?
WHILE CHECKING OUT THE
ENVIRONMENTAL QUESTIONS,
"WEEKEND" REPORTER ART HACKETT
FOUND THE PRESUMED ECONOMIC
ADVANTAGES OF THE LARGE FARMS
MAY THEMSELVES BE DEBATABLE.
>> THIS IS THE STORY OF TWO
WISCONSIN DAIRY FARMS,
THE IVAN KLOSTERMAN FARM IN
SHAWANO COUNTY IS AS TRADITIONAL
AS YOU CAN GET.
A FATHER AND SON MILKING 60 COWS
ON A 200-ACRE FARM THAT'S BEEN
IN THE FAMILY FOR OVER A
CENTURY.
>> WE'VE BEEN HERE 31 YEARS.
BEFORE THAT, MY UNCLE HAD IT
AND GRANDFATHER
AND GREAT-GRANDFATHER.
SO, WE'VE BEEN ON HERE ABOUT
108 YEARS, OR 109 YEARS, NOW.
>> THE WAY IVAN KLOSTERMAN AND
HIS SON, ROSS, MILK THEIR COWS
ISN'T THAT DIFFERENT FROM THE
WAY HIS GRANDFATHER DID.
THE COWS ARE HERDED INTO A
SO-CALLED STANCHION BARN AND
MILKED ONE BY ONE.
THEN, THERE'S THE OTHER FARM,
THE SPRING GROVE DAIRY, NEAR
BRODHEAD.
HERE, 1,800 COWS ARE HOUSED IN
WHAT ARE KNOWN AS FREE-STYLE
CONFINEMENT BUILDINGS.
THE COWS MIGRATE THROUGH
REMOTELY-CONTROLLED GATES INTO
A HIGHLY-COMPUTERIZED MILKING
PARLOR.
HIRED HANDS DO THE MILKING.
THE DAIRY IS OWNED BY CALIFORNIA
INVESTORS AND A FAMILY THAT ACTS
AS MANAGERS, DAN AND
MARY MONSON.
THEY GREW UP ON A WISCONSIN FARM
MUCH LIKE THE KLOSTERMANS, BUT
THEY DON'T FEEL SMALL FARMS ARE
ECONOMICALLY VIABLE.
>> IT'S NOT ENOUGH COWS TO
ACTUALLY HAVE A HIRED MAN, SO
IT'S UP TO YOU, YOURSELF.
MOST WIVES HAVE TO WORK OFF THE
FARM.
THE AVERAGE AGE RIGHT NOW IN THE
STATE OF WISCONSIN FOR DAIRYMEN
IS 57-58 YEARS OLD.
>> WOULD YOU GO BACK TO YOUR
OTHER STYLE OF FARMING IF
MONEY WERE NO OBJECT ?
>> I THINK THE KEY POINT IS
MONEY IS AN OBJECT, SO WE
COULDN'T AND THAT'S WHY WE
HAVEN'T.
AND WE'D LIKE TO, BUT MONEY IS
AN OBJECT AND THAT'S THE
REALITY.
>> THE ABANDONED DAIRY FARM
ACROSS THE ROAD FROM SPRING
GROVE DAIRY REPRESENTS THAT
REALITY.
BETWEEN 1950 AND 1998, WISCONSIN
LOST DAIRY FARMS AT A RATE OF
NEARLY SEVEN A DAY.
THE DOWNWARD TREND HAS RECENTLY
STARTED CAUSING SECONDARY
PROBLEMS.
IT'S NOT JUST FARMS THAT ARE
CLOSING, SO ARE CHEESE PLANTS,
LIKE THIS ONE UP THE ROAD FROM
BRODHEAD IN JUDA.
>> WE'VE BEEN ON A DOWN TREND IN
TERMS OF COW NUMBERS IN THIS
STATE.
WHEN I LOOKED AT MAYBE THE LAST
30 YEARS AND WHAT'S GONE ON IN
DAIRY, THE DECLINING COW
NUMBERS WOULD HAVE ALLOWED FOR
EVERYBODY WHO'S STAYED IN RIGHT
NOW TO DOUBLE IN SIZE, AND WE
COULDN'T HANDLE THE INCREASING
DEMAND FOR DAIRY PRODUCTS
NATIONWIDE.
>> BRUCE JONES, OF UW EXTENSION
CENTER FOR DAIRY PROFITABILITY,
SEES DAIRIES LIKE SPRING GROVE
AS A POSITIVE SIGN, BECAUSE THEY
MEAN MORE MILK.
>> WE NEED A MILK FLOW IN ORDER
TO PRESERVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE
THAT'S IN PLACE IN THE STATE.
SO, WE LOOK AT SOME OF THE
LARGER OPERATIONS THAT ARE
ADOPTING SOME OF THE MODERN
TECHNOLOGY.
THEY'LL PRODUCE THE MILK THAT'S
NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE
MANUFACTURING BASE IN THIS
STATE.
>> OTHERS SEE THEM AS A
NEGATIVE, SOMETHING THAT WILL
ACCELERATE THE DEMISE OF SMALL
FARMS.
>> SMALL FARMERS AND
ENVIRONMENTALISTS RECOGNIZE THAT
THE PROCESSES, THE POLITICAL AND
ECONOMIC FORCES, THAT ARE
PROMOTING AND ENCOURAGING THE
CONSTRUCTION OF THESE
INDUSTRIAL-SCALE FARMS IN OUR
COUNTRYSIDE ARE THE SAME FORCES
THAT ARE DRIVING FAMILY FARMERS
FROM THE LAND.
>> IT'S SOMETHING IVAN
KLOSTERMAN, WHO HAS AN 800-COW
DAIRY AS A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR
WORRIES ABOUT.
>> IT'S GOING TO PUT ME OUT OF
BUSINESS, MORE THAN A BIG
OPERATION, BECAUSE THEY HAVE A
LITTLE MORE PULL, OR WHATEVER,
YOU MIGHT SAY.
>> I DON'T SEE THE ECONOMIC
ADVANTAGES IN DAIRY AS BEING
DRAMATIC.
>> BUT AGRICULTURAL ECONOMIST,
DOUG JACKSON-SMITH, SAYS DESPITE
THE PUBLICITY LARGE FARMS GET,
THEY FACE A NUMBER OF
DISADVANTAGES IN WISCONSIN.
>> THE DATA SUGGESTS IT'S NOT
REALLY THAT TRUE, THAT BEYOND A
VERY MODEST SCALE, 100-150 COWS,
THE COST PER HUNDRED POUNDS OF
MILK DOESN'T DROP THAT MUCH.
IT CAN EVEN RISE DEPENDING ON
PROBLEMS WITH THE LABOR FORCE
AND HOW GOOD A MANAGER YOU ARE.
>> WHILE LARGE DAIRIES
PREDOMINATE IN CALIFORNIA AND
NEW MEXICO, WISCONSIN ISN'T
CALIFORNIA OR NEW MEXICO.
>> OUR CLIMATE IS DIFFERENT.
WE'LL HAVE TO HANDLE THE MANURE.
WE WON'T HAVE THE EVAPORATION,
SO WE'LL DEAL WITH WATER.
AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A
LIMITATION TO FARM SIZE IN THE
UPPER MIDWEST RELATIVE TO OUR
FRIENDS IN CALIFORNIA AND OUT
WEST.
>> MANURE HAS TO BE PUMPED OUT
OF STORAGE LAGOONS ON A REGULAR
BASIS.
IN WISCONSIN, IT'S HARDER TO
FIND LAND TO SPREAD IT ON.
AND JACKSON-SMITH SAYS LABOR IS
ALSO A LIMITING FACTOR.
>> RIGHT NOW, IT'S VERY HARD TO
FIND A QUALITY AND RELIABLE
LABOR FORCE IN THE UPPER
MIDWEST, GIVEN OUR ECONOMIC
SUCCESS OUTSIDE OF AGRICULTURE,
TO ALLOW THESE THINGS TO SUCCEED
AS EASILY AS THEY DO IN OTHER
STATES.
>> THE DEBATE OVER FACTORY FARMS
COULD LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE THERE
ARE ONLY TWO PATHS TO
WISCONSIN'S DAIRY FUTURE.
ONE INVOLVES MILKING 50 OR 60
COWS IN THE TRADITIONAL
STANCHION BARN, AND THE OTHER
INVOLVES MILKING THOUSANDS OF
COWS CALIFORNIA STYLE.
AS IT TURNS OUT, THERE MAY BE A
THIRD PATH TO THE FUTURE, ONE
THAT COULD BE THE MOST
PROFITABLE OF ALL.
>> WE LOOKED AT THE OPTION OF
GOING TO A TOTAL CONFINEMENT
SYSTEM AT 120 COWS.
AND WE HAD BEEN MILKING 60.
>> DAN TRUTTMAN OF NEW GLARUS
RETURNED TO HIS FAMILY'S FARM
AFTER COLLEGE AND REALIZED IT
WOULD TAKE MORE COWS TO SUPPORT
MORE PEOPLE.
>> WE WERE LOOKING AT $250,000
TO $300,000.
AND MY PARENTS DIDN'T EVEN HAVE
TO THINK LONG ABOUT THAT.
>> INSTEAD OF BUILDING A
CONFINEMENT BUILDING, THE
TRUTTMANS DECIDED TO TAKE THE
TOTALLY OPPOSITE APPROACH.
THEY NOW MILK 150 COWS USING A
TECHNIQUE CALLED MANAGEMENT
INTENSIVE ROTATIONAL GRAZING.
COWS FEED THEMSELVES OUTSIDE
SEVEN MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR.
MOVABLE ELECTRIC FENCES GUIDE
THEM TO FRESH PASTURE.
>> GRAZING IS VERY COMPETITIVE
WITH THOSE LARGE-SCALE
OPERATIONS.
IN FACT, ON A PROFIT-PER-COW
BASIS, WE BEAT, I WOULD SAY, A
MAJORITY OF THEM.
>> INSTEAD OF ADOPTING
CALIFORNIA-STYLE PRACTICES, THE
TRUTTMANS INSTALLED A MILKING
PARLOR BUILT IN NEW ZEALAND.
IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR
TRUTTMAN AND HIS FATHER TO MILK
A LARGER HERD WITHOUT HIRED
HELP.
STUDIES BY THE CENTER FOR DAIRY
PROFITABILITY FOUND THAT LARGER
CONVENTIONAL FARMS, WHICH NEARLY
ALL USE FREE-STYLE CONFINEMENT
BARNS, SPENT A LITTLE OVER $8.00
TO PRODUCE 100 POUNDS OF MILK.
THAT SAME YEAR, THE AVERAGE FOR
GRAZING FARMS WAS $7.34.
WHEN A GROUP OF GRAZERS MET AT
TRUTTMAN'S FARM WITH COUNTY
EXTENSION AGENTS TO COMPARE
FINANCIAL FIGURES, THEY WONDERED
HOW LARGE CONFINEMENT FACILITIES
LIKE SPRING GROVE COULD SURVIVE.
>> WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS
THEY'RE GOING IN AT $3,000
A COW, AND I WENT IN AT $500.
I WONDER HOW THEY'RE GOING TO
MAKE IT.
>> CHARLIE OPITZ KNOWS ABOUT
RUNNING A LARGE FARM.
HE BUILT CONFINEMENT BUILDINGS
IN THE LATE 1970s.
AFTER PROBLEMS WITH KEEPING THE
HERD HEALTHY AND PRODUCTIVE, HE
GAVE UP AND MOVED INTO GRAZING.
HE NOW GRAZES OVER 1,000 COWS
NEAR MINERAL POINT, THE LARGEST
GRAZING OPERATION IN THE STATE.
THE CONFINEMENT BUILDINGS ARE
NOW USED ONLY FOR SUPPLEMENTAL
FEEDINGS AND TO HOUSE THE COWS
IN THE WINTER.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE
OPERATIONS, DO YOU FEEL LIKE
YOU'VE BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD
ALREADY ?
>> A LONG TIME AGO.
>> GRAZING AND THE LARGE
CONFINEMENT BUILDINGS BOTH ARE
FOCUSED ON THE SAME GOAL,
RAISING MORE COWS AND MILKING
THEM IN A MORE EFFECTIVE MANNER.
>> I THINK WE SPEND AN AWFUL LOT
OF OUR PROFESSIONAL SCIENTIFIC
RESOURCES AND OUR UNIVERSITY
RESOURCES ON PRODUCTION SYSTEMS
WITHIN DAIRY THAT ARE NOT REALLY
MAINSTREAM OR WITHIN REACH FOR A
LOT OF FOLKS.
>> WHAT WORRIES DOUG
JACKSON-SMITH IS THAT FARMS LIKE
SPRING VALLEY, BECAUSE THEY
ATTRACT SO MUCH ATTENTION,
CONVINCE SOME WISCONSIN FARMERS
THEY SHOULD INVEST IN A
CALIFORNIA-STYLE SOLUTION, WHEN
THEY MIGHT BE BETTER OFF
ADOPTING ANOTHER MANAGEMENT
TECHNIQUE.
>> THE DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL
RESOURCES SAYS THERE ARE MORE
THAN 90 LARGE ANIMAL FARM
FACILITIES IN THE STATE,
ALTHOUGH NOT ALL OF THEM ARE
DAIRY FARMS.
STILL, MORE NEW APPLICATIONS ARE
PENDING.
>> NEXT ON "WEEKEND," THE
CLOSING OF COUNTY STADIUM MEANT
THE END OF A WISCONSIN SPORTS
ERA.
WE'LL TAKE A FINAL TRIP TO THE
PLATE FOR ONE LAST LOOK AT THE
FIELD OF OUR DREAMS, MEMORIES OF
COUNTY STADIUM.
THAT'S NEXT ON "WEEKEND."
>> BASEBALL IS A PART OF LIFE IN
WISCONSIN.
HENRY AARON MADE HIS
PROFESSIONAL DEBUT IN
EAU CLAIRE'S CARSON PARK, AND
SAID GOOD-BYE TO BASEBALL AT
COUNTY STADIUM.
THE BOTTOM OF THE NINTH HAS LONG
COME AND GONE FOR THE OLD BALL
PARK.
BUT WE WANTED TO TAKE ONE LAST
LOOK AT THE FIELD WHERE SO MANY
DREAMS PLAYED OUT.
WE'LL REVISIT THE DAY THOUSANDS
PACKED COUNTY STADIUM TO SAY
GOOD-BYE.
ALSO, 30 YEARS AGO, A BREWERS'
PITCHER BY THE NAME OF KEN
SANDERS COULD DO NO WRONG AT
COUNTY STADIUM.
FOR ONE GLORIOUS SUMMER IN A
CITY STARVED FOR BASEBALL, THE
"BULLDOG" WAS THE BEST IN THE
BUSINESS.
>> SOME OF THE GREAT GAMES WE
YOU KNOW, IN THE EARLY 1970s, WE
HAD A GREAT PITCHING STAFF.
BUT WE JUST DIDN'T SCORE ANY
RUNS.
>> IN THOSE DAYS, KEN SANDERS
DIDN'T NEED MANY RUNS.
HE WAS THE CLOSER, THE PITCHER
WHO PUT OUT THE FIRE WHEN THE
GAME WAS ON THE LINE.
>> IF YOU CAN THROW STRIKES,
BEING A LEFT-HANDER, WE CAN GET
YOU IN THE LINE-UP HERE.
>> IN 1970, KEN SANDERS SET A
MAJOR LEAGUE RECORD BY SAVING 31
GAMES FOR THE BREWERS AND
WINNING ANOTHER SEVEN OUTRIGHT.
THAT SEASON, HE WAS GIVEN THE
AWARD AS BASEBALL'S BEST RELIEF
PITCHER, "FIREMAN OF THE YEAR."
>> I THINK AFTER YOU'VE HAD THE
EXPERIENCE, YOU COME IN THAT
SITUATION AND YOU REALLY LOOK
FORWARD TO IT.
>> THE BULLPEN COACHES SIT
NEXT TO THE PHONE.
AND I'D SIT, PROBABLY, HERE.
>> THESE ARE PRETTY COOL SEATS.
BACK IN THE BULLPEN AT
COUNTY STADIUM, THE MEMORIES ARE
OF MORE THAN BASEBALL.
>> WHEN I WALK OUT OF HERE NEXT
THURSDAY NIGHT, I'M GOING TO BE
HAPPY THAT I GOT A CHANCE TO
PLAY IN MILWAUKEE.
ALL THREE OF MY CHILDREN ARE
ADOPTED, TWO OF THEM ARE HERE
IN MILWAUKEE.
IF I HADN'T COME TO MILWAUKEE--
I'M LOOKING AT THE RESIDUALS--
I MAY NOT HAVE THOSE TWO
CHILDREN.
>> THE BULL DOG TOOK ONE LAST
WALK TO THE MOUND FOR US.
>> GOOD-BYE COUNTY STADIUM.
>> BRING THE HEAT.
EVEN DRESSED LIKE THE
BUSINESSMAN HE IS TODAY, SANDERS
CAN STILL THROW.
>> SURE, YOU'RE 59 !
>> AGE IS IN THE EYES OF THE
BEHOLDER.
>> IS IT GOING TO BE A HAPPY DAY
KEN, OR THE SAD DAY, WHEN THAT
LAST PITCH IS THROWN IN COUNTY
STADIUM ?
>> IT'S GOING TO BE A SAD DAY,
BECAUSE I SPENT THREE WONDERFUL
YEARS HERE.
>> FOR JUST A MOMENT ON THURSDAY
NIGHT, WE WERE KIDS AGAIN.
YELLING AS ONE FOR HANK AARON.
>> Hank swings...
>> IN 1957, AARON HIT A DRAMATIC
HOME RUN AT COUNTY STADIUM TO
PUT THE BRAVES INTO THE WORLD
SERIES.
A SERIES THEY WOULD WIN AGAINST
THE NEW YORK YANKEES.
FORTY-THREE YEARS LATER, AARON'S
THOUGHTS AREN'T OF HIS OWN
HEROICS, BUT OF THE OTHERS WHO
PLAYED ON THE SAME FIELD.
>> I HAD GREAT MOMENTS HERE AND
I PLAYED WITH GREAT TEAMS.
I GUESS THE SADDEST THING ABOUT
IT IS THAT THE PEOPLE OF
MILWAUKEE AND THE PEOPLE OF
WISCONSIN CAN BE VERY THANKFUL
THAT THEY HAD SOME OF THE
GREATEST PLAYERS OF ALL TIME TO
PLAY IN THIS BALL PARK.
>> PLAYERS LIKE PITCHER
WARREN SPAHN.
NOW 79, SPAHN THREW OUT THE
FIRST PITCH AT THIS LAST GAME TO
HIS FORMER CATCHER,
DEL CRANDALL.
THAT SERIES BACK IN '57 ?
SPAHN SAYS WISCONSIN WENT NUTS
WHEN THE BRAVES WON.
>> WE COULDN'T GO OUT OF OUR
HOUSE.
EVERYBODY WANTED TO CELEBRATE.
YOU KNOW, THE VENDORS HAD THEIR
BEER AND WINE AND WHATEVER OUT
ON THE STREETS.
EVERYBODY GAVE AWAY THINGS FOR
NOTHING.
>> THIS WAS A DAY TO SAY
GOOD-BYE TO AN OLD FRIEND.
WHAT ALWAYS MADE COUNTY STADIUM
SPECIAL WAS THE FEELING THAT
FRIENDS, NOT INDIVIDUALS, CAME
TO GAMES HERE.
>> WE LEAN ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
WE PUT UP WITH IT.
WE'RE BREWER FANS !
>> PATTY MEIER AND DARRYL LeDUC
DIDN'T GO DOWN TO THE FIELD ON
THURSDAY.
EVEN WITH A POLE BLOCKING THEIR
VIEW, THE WEST BEND COUPLE
WANTED TO SIT AT THE TOP OF
COUNTY STADIUM ONE LAST TIME.
>> THIS IS WHERE I SAT WITH MY
DAD, HAVING POPCORN AND SODA,
AND JUST ENJOYING THE BREWERS
AND THE BRAVES, AT THAT TIME.
I LOVED IT.
>> I'M KIND OF SAD, BECAUSE WHEN
I WAS A BOY, MY FATHER USED TO
COME WITH ME HERE.
AND NOW HE'S PASSED ON, AND WE
WENT TO A LOT OF PACKER GAMES, A
LOT OF BRAVES AND BREWER GAMES.
AND I'M KIND OF SAD TO SEE THE
BALL PARK GO.
>> BUT IT WAS ALSO A DAY TO HAVE
FUN.
IMAGINE THE THRILL OF HAVING A
MAJOR LEAGUE PLAYER TOSS YOU A
BALL DURING WARM-UPS.
KEN SANDERS CAME BACK FOR THE
GAME.
THE FORMER BREWERS RELIEVER
SPENT PART OF THE AFTERNOON IN
THE STANDS SIGNING AUTOGRAPHS
AND LETTING GO OF THE GOOD TIMES
HE HAD HERE.
>> THE FEAR OF LOSING THE
MEMORIES.
THE MEMORIES LIVE ON, BUT IT'S
PLACES THAT PEOPLE GREW UP IN.
>> LITTLE WENT RIGHT FOR THE
BREWERS IN THE FINAL GAME AT
COUNTY STADIUM, BUT IT REALLY
DIDN'T MATTER.
BECAUSE IN A BALL PARK FILLED
WITH HISTORY, ONE BAD AFTERNOON
DIDN'T MEASURE UP TO THE
MEMORIES.
>> BEING OUT HERE WHERE ROBIN
HAD CAREER HIT 3,000,
AND MOLITOR'S HITTING STREAK,
AND FAVRE INTO THE END ZONE
IN THE FINAL PACKER GAME.
I THINK THE FACT YOU CAN
IDENTIFY WITH A MEMORY IS WHAT
MAKES IT SO VERY SPECIAL.
>> SPECIAL WAS WATCHING OUR OWN
MEMORIES TAKE A FINAL BOW.
FUZZY THURSTON OF THE PACKERS
MAKING A CURTAIN CALL IN FRONT
OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO
REMEMBER THE OLD DAYS WHEN VINCE
LOMBARDI STOOD ON THE SIDELINES
OF COUNTY STADIUM.
SPECIAL WAS WATCHING
"THE IGNITOR," PAUL MOLITOR,
STREAK AROUND THE BASES ONE MORE
TIME.
AND SPECIAL WAS KNOWING ROBIN
YOUNT STILL LOOKS LIKE THE KID.
>> IT'S A VERY SPECIAL DAY HERE
IN COUNTY STADIUM.
>> GREAT TO GROW UP HERE,
WASN'T IT ?
>> IT WAS, YOU KNOW--
IT'S THE BEST.
THE BEST.
>> WHEN IT WAS OVER, THE BREWERS
KNEW WHAT WAS IMPORTANT.
HOME PLATE WILL LOOK FAMILIAR
WHEN MILLER PARK OPENS NEXT
SPRING.
>> Here comes Johnny...
>> BECAUSE IT WILL BE THE SAME
ONE SO MANY PLAYERS HAVE CROSSED
BEFORE.
AND DARRYL LeDUC WILL BE AT
MILLER PARK AS WELL.
BUT NOT BEFORE SAYING GOOD-BYE
TO COUNTY STADIUM.
>> THIS REALLY MEANS A LOT TO ME
TO SEE THE CLOSING OF A GREAT
STADIUM, A GREAT TOWN
AND GOOD PEOPLE.
>> SOME COUNTY STADIUM TRIVIA TO
AMAZE YOUR FRIENDS.
COUNTING THE BREWERS, BRAVES AND
PACKERS, THERE WERE 7,048 GAMES
PLAYED AT COUNTY STADIUM.
THE PACKERS HAD THE MOST LUCK,
WINNING 60 PERCENT OF THEIR
GAMES AT COUNTY STADIUM.
THE BRAVES WON 56 PERCENT OF
THEIR GAMES.
AND THE BREWERS WON 48 PERCENT
OF THEIR GAMES.
>> WELL THAT'S OUR PROGRAM FOR
TONIGHT.
WE HOPE YOU ENJOYED REVISITING
SOME OF OUR FAVORITE "WEEKEND"
STORIES.
>> FOR PATTY LOEW AND THE REST
OF THE "WEEKEND" CREW, I'M JERRY
HUFFMAN.
HAVE A GREAT NIGHT.
THANKS FOR WATCHING.
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