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So, with that, I will hand it over to John Nicol, our first
Technology Showcase presenter of
CEO of MakerPlane. the day who is the founder and
John Nicol. So, with t[APPLAUSE]e welcome
Thanks so much, Meredith. So, who here has heard about
open source?
everyone in the audience. Now, what I'm going to present
today is the concept of open
both hardware and software source in aviation, so using
build aircraft faster, quicker, technologand safer.p people
Now, digital manufacturing, the whole maker movement, so-called
maker movement, The Economist has quite rightly called it the
third industrial revolution.
myself there. So, the maker movement, these
are people and this is probably going to be a very familiar
paragraph to anyone that has
starting building an aircraft. started or is considering
terminology, are people that The maker movement, in today's
things together, they play take things apart, they put
come up with very cool and around with technology, and they
capabilities. And, in my mind, some that's in
aviation that's building their
they have been for over a own airhundred years.er, and
So this should be a very
the audience. faAnd this person here, Limorin
Fried, is actually one of the pioneers in the open source
hardware movement, and she has a
provides open source electronic wekits and plans for people tohe
build really cool little
And she also sells kits to help support the open source side of
her business. So, one of the key enablers for
the maker movement, and, in our case, open source aviation, is
that personal digital manufacturing technologies are
becoming freely available,
and there's lots of content out they're there online.ly cheap,
They're supported in the
tinkerers and makers who provide community by many, many
online for free for anyone to use and to collaborate on and
then to improve and put back out
space. into the community, into the
image are different technologies, but you can see 3D
printers, you can see CNC machines or computer controlled
routers and cutting equipment,
an Arduino board which is an and also in the middle there is
you can use to build lots and oplots of interesting and coolat
things. Things like robotics, things
like the DIY drones, if you've
It's an open source UAV, and heard of that.
So there's a lot of technology they use Arduino a lot.
be applied into the open source out theaviation space.viously,
So what is the problem that we're trying to solve here?
So, a lot of you probably know
abandoned, that are lying dead of projects that have been
somewhere. on the side of a taxiway
probably you've also seen on So after doing my research, and
other online sales website Barnstormers or eBay or any
and of myself, I've actually had you've got projects for sale,
sale, and the reason I did that was because the company went
under that I bought the project from.
And there's people in the audience here that know of
companies that have gone under
passed away, and the plans are or plan's designers that have
So there is a significant issue. no longer supported.
into two out of three projects This number really translates
completed. that are started are never
That is a massive problem. Two out of three.
If two-thirds of projects fail Really, that's a problem.
something not quite right. out there, we must be doing
EAA website they say it takes Abetween one and three thousand
hours to actually build an
I think that might be a little aircraft, on average.
the EAA has said. bAlso, it's very complicated to
build an aircraft.
We get our kit and we just get We start off all enthusiastic.
But if you're building ribs, and stuck into it straight away.
my stand which is actually from Ithe project that I had up forn
sale. It's a -- 3M.
It's a Reno racer if you know that particular aircraft.
So there's about 50 ribs in the wing.
It's a sport version. It's got extended wings.
So, if you're doing ribs and it takes you four or five hours to
do a rib, in this case there's a
because it was taken from a photo at a workshop here at EAA,
you could spend 12 to 18 months building ribs, and by the end of
that year you've got a stack of ribs.
Probably the first one is very
jig. cool when you get out of the
The third one is okay. The second one is great.
want to do something else. By the 20th one, you probably
as well. So there's a motivation factor
slowly. But on a CNC machine, a computer
controlled cutter, you can do a rib in about two or three
minutes.
hour, an hour and a half, you have your stack of ribs instead
of waiting 12 to 18 months. So you've got an immediate
gratification as well that comes
quickly. with building your parts very
the motivation when you're And I think that that maintains
So, our solution, that's a building a plan.
here, but our solution is to long-winded explanation to get
plans, designs of aircraft, from actually provide and create
build on CNC equipment or personal digital manufacturing
equipment.
necessarily constructing a rib So in that way you're not
hand. What you're doing is that you're
actually cutting out that part
machine. on a 2D profile on a CNC
just the plans and the files What we're also doing is not
process and I'm sort of calling it the MakerPlane process at
the moment. Probably vanity coming in here.
The thing is, is that what we're
looking at just throwing a kit doing is that we're not only
What we're doing is looking at or throwing a plan at someone.
assembly and creation of your the dream aircraft.gy of
So, if you can imagine slots and
can put an aircraft part into a slot and it only goes in one way
and you can't screw it up and it's really easy to do, then
that's one way that we can look at improving this whole concept
of assembling your own aircraft really easy and quickly.
Because I know that there's craftsman in the audience and I
know that there are people that will want to do the 50-part rib
and do it over many years, and
get. that's the enjoyment that they
issue if two out of three aircraft projects fail, then I
think that the majority of
a way to get their aircraft in people are actually looking for
So that's what we're looking at. the air quicker.
methodology includes things like Now, with this as well, the
modern technologies that we can use and apply to our assembly
instructions. So what that basically means is
minimizing text, minimizing interpretation of plans and
assembly manuals, and making it very picture oriented.
Pictorial, using images.
And lots of little arrows saying That's the way that we think.
tab. that slot there goes into that
that that we can do. So there's lot of things like
instructional techniques, We calearning techniques. call
So I have a little bit of background in that when I was
doing some work with the
So the problem that you might know is if you've got people
going overseas and they're
militia how to do things, a lot of those people in different
areas are illiterate. So there's no sort of benefit in
giving them manuals which are written in English or French or
Spanish.
So we're using a lot of They jupictures.get it.
We're using a lot of images.
So you can see here on the That's what we want to do.
assembly for a landing gear. bottom picture there is an
pulls apart, it comes back So that actually animates, it
each part goes. You can rotate it, you can look
at it from different angles, and
fit together. yoNow, what we're going to bely
doing with MakerPlane, and we've
is putting together a group of actually already started this,
support this open source idea. products and services to help
that we have online are free. People can download the avionics
plans.
designed and built, people will be able to download the plans
for those aircraft for free.
we'll be able to offer is kits To support the community, what
can purchase if they don't want to build particular parts or the
whole kit.
everything. So we'll have our aircraft kit,
or kits.
more, and I'll get on to that in In fact, there's going to be
They manufacture equipment as a well.d.
So the CNC machine I've got on
prototype. my booth is very much an early
It's not rigid. It's okay but not for your kits.
So, we're working with a
provide a full CNC kit US-based manufacturer here to
It will be open source as well. You'll be able to get the plans
if you want to build it yourself, but we also offer the
parts.
going to be a four by eight Now, wbuilt platform.is it's
So you can put a whole sheet of plywood down, a whole sheet of
foam, and you can cut up all
We're also doing avionics as your parts at once.
So open source avionics. well.
concept. It may be an interesting
a lot of people out there that But what we're doing is there's
also designing and building are butheir own avionics.ft and
And there's quite a few projects
we've gathered up and we've put thinto a repository throughhat
MakerPlane. That includes things like, these
are overseas plans, things like radios, traffic collision
avoidance system, radar altimeter, antennas for
composite aircraft, things like that.
And in the next month we'll also
include audio mixers to put your be putting up others which
headset for radio and cellphoannunciators.nto your
And the most exciting thing being at the show this week is
that people have come up with projects that I didn't even know
existed.
quite exciting, we will have an almost complete glass cockpit.
So, an EFIS, electronic flight
have the artificial horizon and the engine monitoring and things
like that.
together your own glass cockpit, So you should be able to put
$500. So I'm very excited about that
I'm sure there's people in the
about that. aThe thing is that code will be
up online in the repository for people to download and use but
also to hopefully contribute to,
functions because as a community to add new features and
ideas and a lot of talent out we've got a there. interesting
Software developers that might
their normal day job but their be doing software development in
So those are the people that are passion is aviation.
well and hopefully will reacontribute to our project. as
So you can see some of the
And also including things like things that we're up to there.
For those of you that know Arduino.
happening there in the DIY UAV Arduino, there's a lot of stuff
applicable into full-size coaircraft as well.ery
So our vision, after all of that, our vision is to enable
you to build and fly your dream aircraft easily, cheaply, and
safely. That's our whole goal.
Because like you, I've got a
I look at my 50-part rib and I'm couple of projects on the go and
easier way to do this. thinking there's got to be an
We want you to be able to build Syour dream aircraft easily,e.
cheaply, and safely.
behind open source aviation, And with the worldwide community
there that can help us do this. Just a little bit about myself,
I just finished a two-year
about six weeks ago. contract with Lockheed Martin
through Lockheed Martin global I was principal engineer working
Orlando. training and logistics in
people that I worked with that So I know that there's a few
project, so I'm hoping to bring are those guys on board.his
We have people contributing on
very early stages, but including our online forums, including,
engineer. I've had people from larger
companies here, like Rockwell Collins, say hey, this is cool,
I want to be involved.
group of very interested So what you're seeing here is a
different backgrounds coming in and contributing to our project.
So I hope as well that that's of
audience. So, our first project out of the
gate, and this may actually change, I'll give you a bit of a
hint. I had someone come up to us with
an almost complete project which
we're looking at in our design. So there may be some interesting
news coming out of us in the
So hopefully I'll keep you on tenderhooks so you can come on
to our website and find out the latest news.
But anyway, when we started this
it started when I posted up on project in October of last year,
wouldn't it be cool if we could tuse CNC equipment and 3Dd
printers to help make our airplane?
So I got some really good,
A lot of private messages came positive feedback from that.
saying yeah, this is cool, let's through, and people just started
The advice that I got, I don't do it, okay.
he's an author that did an know if you know Ron Wanttaja,
use all the time. excelIt's about a Kit Planehat I
Construction, I believe it's
He's a very well-known community called.
Baby community. peHe sort of runs that group.ly
Anyway, I got in touch with him,
advice here: get a small core group of very interested people,
and tell everyone else to go
And what he said, and this is absolutely true, he said if you
get two aviators in a room, you're going to have four
different opinions about what to
So, I took his advice to heart, and being someone who's been in
the high tech industry and a
projects and things, I said, project manager doing big
So, I got a group of four people, in fact it was five and
then we went down to four, and
started getting together on video conferencing and email and
chat. In our forums, actually, there's
a hidden members only group that
to the forums, and that is about you can't even see when you get
area that you see. 10 times the size of the public
say there's not much traffic So if you got to our forums, you
Well, actually, the private area here.
So we had all of these is just huge.
advice and I basically did a discussions and I did take Ron's
And I said, okay, we are benevolent dictatorship.
we are building a high wing LSA. building, after market research,
and that's what we're building. It's goiEnd of argument.e gear,
Of course there were some bottom
The thing was is that we had to lips start somewhere.that.
If we didn't start somewhere, we
literally. would never get off the ground,
very talented aeronautical So, Jeffrey Meyer, who is our
retired UAV engineer living in engineer, he's actually a
So it's truly an international Israel.
from the start. colSo Jeffrey is a wonderfulght
designer, and using the specks
basically the design that he that we came up with, that is
The very cool thing with this design as well is that even
though we're building 2D on a CNC, you'll see there's lovely
curves on the machine.
modern. So iSo that's our first one.and
We are still looking for
the designs. collaborators to help us finish
please go onto our forums and So ivolunteer so that we caneer,
complete this design. We're starting from the pilot
out.
started this process, but I said So, you will see that we've just
start with the seat, don't start to the team that, look, don't
anything like that, start with with the cockpit panel or
aircraft, and you tell me how he's getting into the aircraft,
and then how he sits in the aircraft and looks around.
So, that's the design philosophy
they start from the pilot, I've told the team is, look,
then we'll figure out the rest. So we're building from the pilot
out.
6-foot-8 pilot. CurSo there's lots of room.r a
It's also 52 inches wide at the moment.
So it's actually the widest cabin in its class.
So, it's LSA so there will be speed restrictions and weight
restrictions, but those are design criteria right now.
So, with all of that, that is the design.
We're definitely still looking
What I've done is I've created for volunteers to help us out.
approach to this. So I've broken down the aircraft
into different systems. So, for example, controls,
engine, landing gear. So I've compartmentalized each
one so that there can be an owner for each one as well, and
then interface back into the
gateway for that. main desHe is the owner.y as our
He is the aeronautical engineer.
So that's our MakerPlane version He is the gatekeeper.
You'll also see some very nice one, 1.0 LSA.
recent graduate, industrial renddesign graduate, Jordan.om a
He's put together some quite
how the interior of the cockpit interestilooks as well.cepts of
My brief to him was basically I want a really modern looking
system and break the mold.
flat, 2D panel. Think about how we can make this
look really good when people
So we've got different concepts you'll see.
I don't know if I've got, oh, yes I do.
Here we go. So, this is some of the ideas
here, and also looking at things
panel. like pedestals instead of a flat
just give Jordan some feedback So we really encourage people,
sketches on the back of a napkin, and we'll take it from
there because this is our aircraft.
We don't have to be boxed in to current thinking or designs.
So, there's a lot of talented people out there that we can
make this a really interesting
So, our milestones, this is what looking aircraft.
I am looking at a kickstarter campaign sometime in September
so that I can try and get this
some software to the guys that really off the ground and get
components in so we can start building our prototype system.
In October we're going to have
It may be September yet. our avionics kits online.
that, including the CNC kits. Next year, I want to have the
one to one scale non-flying prototype here at Oshkosh.
Now, I want it non-flying because it's cheaper components.
If I have to rebuild something
using aircraft grade stuff. I'll just go to Home Depot and
use whatever I can find there that's not bent like a hockey
stick.
non-flying. We'll get the design right and
we'll get the assembly and
We'll take our time doing the proprocesses.ht.
As you saw before, that's one of
making sure we understand how a builder is going to build this.
The year after that, we'll
LSA. actually fly in our experimental
maybe we'll look at an SLSA for Athose people that are really
lazy. So, we'll figure all of that out
later, but, again, it's something that certainly I think
that there would be very
community-built aircraft out interesting to have a certified
And I know if you've invested some of your talent into this
aircraft, I think it would be interesting to say, oh, there's
my aircraft.
the dotted line there in the So, the other thing, you'll see
benevolent dictatorship that I middle, and the dictatorial,
And what we're going to be doing said will disappear.
design our next aircraft but is opening this up for people to
aircraft is going to be. also decide on what that
competition next year, maybe So what I want to do is run a
they might be yet, maybe a CNC some prizes, I don't know what
we'll provide up as a prize, and kit or something like that that
the world and then the community we'll get designs from all over
going to be. will decide what the next one's
be a completely Scommunity-derived aircraft.ll
And then, of course, we will get
it safe and to actually get it an aeronautical engineer to make
So one thing I just want to say, into the air.
like any other open source this is all about safety, and
gatekeepers that make sure the project, you always have
same thing with our aircraft. coWe'll make sure that it's ashe
safe as we possibly can.
ballistic recovery chute as We'well, by the way.t a
So that's something there.
MakerPlane.org. There are some cards on my booth
there, which has got the URL for
This is where our community tgathers.
And we also have the hanger workshop.
Now, the hanger workshop, I couldn't think of a cool idea,
so it's a workshop and there's a
But this is our open source hanger, srepository.l it that.
This is our database of all of
will find for all of the the plans and files that you
This has our current, I think there's 15 open source avionics
designs up there now. And there will probably be
another 13 to 15 up in the next few weeks.
And plus the EFIS which is
Anyone can go in there and have comina look.e too.
Anyone can come in there and
You don't have to register. If you are running a project or
want to own a project, then you can register and actually start
your own project. So, this is your toolkit, your
framework that you can go in and
aviation project. So if you've got a cool idea and
you want to gather a team of
your next best thing for open source aviation, then this is
your platform to do it in.
that. I donI'm just the shepherd. with
This should be and will be a
all I'm doing is providing the community-driven effort where
succeed. framework for everyone to
source aircraft plans will be as And that's also where our open
Now, I've already started a project for the LSA, and I you
go in there you can actually see
system requirements document I the initial very high level
breakdown of systems that I told put together, as well as that
So those are online and you available.ell.
Also, this is part of the core
that I'm using. For those of you who are in the
software development industry,
agile and scrum, which is a software development process,
but the neat thing about it is
spiral development. tSo you do six-week what they
call sprints, and at the end of that six weeks you should have a
product, and then you do another
So you've got release schedules every six weeks.
Now, of course you're not going to build an aircraft in six
weeks.
the actual aircraft. That's not what we're doing with
certain goals that we meet, and then we have something that we
can either use and continue to
finished and we move on to the the next sprint, or it's
So, this particular, you don't next part.
that's what we're using. have to read it, it's just
other open source projects, open Now, I'm also collaborating with
so you know. source hardware projects, just
WikiSpeed, and I'll mention those guys because they're cool.
The founder, Joe Justice, actually is using the same agile
methodology.
living in Seattle, and he has a 100-mile-per-gallon open source
car which is extremely cool.
you use the WikiSpeed car, your Sopen source car to drive up to
your open source aircraft and fly away.
Talking about open source,
also want to do, and this is actually one of the things I
Kickstarter to allow me to do this, is to start creating a
series of open source hanger
There's an organization in plans as well.
they have an open source house Europe called WikiHouse, and
four by eight CNC machine, cut which you can put together on a
put together a house. oSo, I'll want to use that same
framework and design a hanger as
So you'll be able to use your CNC machine that you're building
your aircraft to also build your
your trailer. So you can take the wings off
and put it on a trailer and take
And maybe, I've said this at the it to the airport.
you can sit back and look at all booth, maybe an beach chair so
out. of your handiwork as it comes
up there. So,When we say open sourceo be
aviation, I really mean that in the broadest sense.
Anything that you can think of
flight line rating people as from the deck chair on the
hanger and your aircraft and they land all the way up to your
the avionics. anythiHow can you help?luding
This is my call to action here. I do have a newsletter on our
website, and I would encourage
It's just put your email people to sign up for that.
newsletters on a regular basis address, and I'll send out
all of the free and core things whithat are coming up on ourith
website and as they're released.
source community. AContribution to the forums isn
the key.
have been the first one on my Inslide because without theld
community, we won't prosper.
collaboration. This is all about community
Just go in there and say hi, So, please, contribute.
talk to people. We've got a very, very small
group of people in the forums now.
So, please, the more the better.
We would love it if you could Jcontribute to what Jeffrey is.
doing, and then the other thing that I'm going to announce in
the next few weeks which is really cool too.
What we need is people to take
need to be technical. There are some things that wet
just need some research done on and then contribute back the
findings to the team. So you don't need to be an
aeronautical designer or an electronic engineer or anything
like that.
do in some areas. Like, for example, if Jeffrey is
designing the landing gear, what
If we've got a certain weight, wheels are we going to use.
wheels, maybe the brakes, whatever, so that we've got that
list together.
maybe you want to start your own I mentioned this before, but
Now, we have some avionics open source aviation project.
a gentleman in eastern Europe dcalled Mathias Vidmar, and ifm
you guys know anything about
a whole list of open source whradios and transponders andted
radar altimeters and things like
They're out of date and they that.
for owners for those projects. need updating, so I'm looking
example, are hand-written and hand-drawn and they need to be
turned into electronic files. But it's a start.
And I just love the stuff that
So there are projects that are this guy's been doing.
and tenderness. And just spread the word, I'me
not worried about Kickstarter.
If you could just talk to people Spread the word.
I believe that MakerPlane does that you know, and also, because
as well, that maker movement, so appeal to a different audience
people that are interested in aviation, the kids that ares
using Arduino, the kids that are
the guys and girls that are in interested in Android tablets,
whatever that are using Arduino uniand are using open source or
software and hardware now...
Who invited these aircraft to [PLAthis thing?OISE]
What is it about these things?
The thing is that I think we So, spread the word.
out there but a new audience of awannabe aviators that now have
an opportunity to use modern
and a CNC machine that they can techbuild other cool stuff.inter
And, by the way, they can also
So, if you could spread the world as well, that would be
most appreciated. If you're an EAA chapter, just
talk to them about it.
presentation this morning. So, that really concludes my
to me. I really thank you for listening
at all? >> I've got a million questions
but one that comes to mind is,
effort... this i[INAUDIBLE]rative
So the question was, are we using open source software to
do our 3D modeling? The short answer is yes and no.
[LAUGHTER]
a couple of the team members are The aeronautical engineer and
So that is the best payware system that you can use to do
this type of design.
use any open source software However, the contributors can
and we ask them to provide the that they feel comfortable with,
they want Jeffrey to have a look files in a particular format if
SolidWorks. So that information is online.
So we can take DXF, so any open source software such as, I don't
know, there's lots of CAD programs out there that are open
source. I do actually have a list of
open source CAD and 3D modeling software in the forums as well.
So feel free to go in there and have a look at any of those.
And one of our contributors,
we've linked to, also has a whole list of open source 3D
software as well. So, the short answer is yes, but
the designers are using SolidWorks.
Any other questions?
[INAUDIBLE] >> So, the question is, what
is the power plant for this aircraft?
We haven't quite decided that yet.
As we go through the design process and look at the weight
and balance and what the
we're sort of tending towards rARV, maybe Corvair, somethingw
like that because we want this
If there are other similar cost engines out there or power
plants, then let us know and
One of the ideas with this being we'll definitely look at them.
if people are looking at a collaborative effort is that
to give that design back into the community, that's what it'st
all about too.
be stuck on one particular type Sof propulsion or power plant.o
Out of the gate to make it
A into tab B type construction really simple and have the slot
particular power plant, and we're going to put all of the
instructions that people need to
So we'll choose one particular be successful with the aircraft.
build it for that, but being power plant and then we will
interested personally in seeing what we can do with hybrid and
electric and retrofit this
Any other questions? existing platform for that.
[INAUDIBLE] >> Okay, so the question was,
can I describe the four by
It's a four by eight build eight cutting machine?
So it's slightly bigger, platform.
So you can put a four by eight actually than a four by eight.
The gantry itself, you've got sdifferent options for the.
gantry. So eight inches above the build
platform up to two feet.
a bit of material underneath the So that allows you to put quite
I'm working with the cutting head.
company, and we'll make all of manufacturers, so this is a
well, based here in the States these announcements online as
and I've been very successful thproducing and providing CNCgn,
kits. And I'm working with them to
design some hot wire cutters to go onto this machine as well.
So you take the gantry off, and you put motors on each end with
a hot wire between it.
and other foam material with it. And you can cut out wing cores
have a hot wire that goes the And owidth of the table.would
So you can put a foam core down on it, and then cut the
thicknesses you need for
You also have an option for a torsion box which is something I
built for that particular prototype as well.
So you have a honeycomb structure underneath the table
to keep it level and flat and stop it from wrecking.
The material is basically a sign
So it's HDF, high density fiber hardwood, sandwiched or
laminated onto marine plywood.
under different temperature So it'conditions as well. stable
It's almost as good as metal, but it's a fraction of the
price.
well. SoSo, four by eight, five byas
twelve, and we may look at
The kits, sorry, I'll talk smaller machines as well.
You will have everything in the briefly abkit.the kits.
All the hardware, all of the
everything but the computer. electronics, all of the motors,
software links. We'll either give you the
software on a CD or we'll give
software from the open source you a licommunity.load the
[INAUDIBLE] >> Sorry, what was it?
[INAUDIBLE] >> The price range of the kit?
We're still working through the design so we don't know exactly
what. The target is under $15,000.
This design may be $10,000 to $12,000.
I just don't know yet, but
under $15K. You may be able to source parts.
Hopefully it will be well under that.
Hopefully well under that.
not in here to make a huge One of the things is that we're
What we need is to make money to profit.
So there will be minimal margin on the kits, but for the parts
and everything else that you
$10,000 to $15,000 but hopefully build yourself, definitely the
But as we get through the build and design process, we'll start
understanding what the cost is
Any other questions? going to be.
There's different versions >> [INAUDIBLE]
Yes. of open source.
So the question, if I could paraphrase, is, what kind of
open source license would we be using under this project?
So, on our website, in fact maybe I'll just go to the
website, I actually have a pile of different licenses that
people can use for their
So, under tools and licenses particular project.
license schemes that you could there are four main open source
And one of the things that we're apply to your project.
creative commons. So it would providing everything
for free for non-commercial use.
want to do is release everything Because one thing that we don't
one of the big aviation ancompanies coming along ande
taking that design and then creating their own commercial
one, and then basically they're cutting the whole community out
of what we're trying to do. So, the IP and copyright and all
of that, particularly for the MakerPlane derived stuff, will
reside back with MakerPlane as
commons that everyone can use anfor non-commercial use.ive
And then commercially, of course, if we're selling the
kits and we're selling the
wants to do that then they would avionics then if someone else
and ask us if they wanted to have to come back to MakerPlane
that. dAnd then, of course, that goesm
back into the community.
Adafruit Industries works as So that's one of the ways that
community. well and also the Arduino
get the licensing right so we have the protection for us as a
collaborative group that we don't get someone coming along
taking the ideas, commercializing it, patenting
it, and then saying we can't use
Okay? That's not very nice, but that's
the reason. So there's four different
licenses. So if you're starting you own
project, then you can read and
I've got up here. And we're probably looking att
the CERN open source hardware license which is the top one.
But, again, once we actually get
then we're going to figure out our design and build process up,
do the same thing. which specific one, but they all
commons non-commercial use They're all sort of creative
Each one's got its own little lnuance..
Any other questions?
then. I want to thank every one in the
audience for listening to me, and thank you for your
contribution. Even though you're sitting here,
you're contributing.
listening, and I really Soappreciate your support.r
Thank you.
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