>> THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION IN
MILWAUKEE WILL MOVE FROM THE
FISERV ARENA TO A SMALLER VENUE
AND BE MOSTLY REMOTE, WITH
DELEGATES BEING TOLD NOT TO
COME.
CANDIDATE JOE BIDEN AND HIS
RUNNING MATE, HOWEVER, ARE
SLATED TO ACCEPT THE NOMINATION
IN MILWAUKEE.
THIS WEEK THE TRUMP AND PENCE
VISITS TO WISCONSIN COME AS
THEIR REELECTION BID HEATS UP
AGAINST FORMER VICE PRESIDENT
JOE BIDEN.
BOTH CANDIDATES HOPE TO CLAIM
WISCONSIN AFTER TRUMP NARROWLY
WON THE STATE IN 2016.
A MARQUETTE LAW SCHOOL POLL
GIVES US AN INDICATION OF HOW
THAT RACE IS TAKING SHAPE.
POLLSTER CHARLES FRANKLIN JOINS
US WITH THOSE RESULTS, AND THANK
YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE.
THANKS.
>> SO AS TO THE RACE FOR
PRESIDENT IN WISCONSIN, YOUR
POLLING FOUND THAT 49% FAVOR JOE
BIDEN TO 41% FOR DONALD TRUMP.
HOW HAVE THESE NUMBERS TRENDED?
>> THIS IS A BUMP UP FOR BIDEN
THIS MONTH.
THAT EIGHT-POINT MARGIN THIS
MONTH COMPARES TO THREE POINTS
IN MARCH AND IN MAY AND A DEAD
TIE IN FEBRUARY.
SO WE'VE SEEN SOME MOVEMENT UP.
BUT THIS MONTH A SPECIAL BUMP-UP
FOR BIDEN.
>> AND THIS IS TRENDING THAT WAY
IN POLLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>> WE'VE SEEN IT IN POLLING
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE'VE SEEN IT IN A NUMBER OF
STATE POLLS AS WELL, NOT JUST
NATIONAL POLLS.
IF YOU THINK OF THE LAST SIX
WEEKS, TWO MONTHS, THEY HAVE NOT
BEEN FILLED WITH GOOD NEWS FOR
THE INCUMBENT ADMINISTRATION,
WHETHER IT'S THE PROTESTS OR THE
VIRUS OR THE ECONOMY.
AND SO THIS HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD
TIME FOR THE PRESIDENT.
>> YOU MENTIONED IT JUST A BIT
AGO, BUT HIS APPROVAL FOR HIS
HANDLING OF THE DEATH OF GEORGE
FLOYD AND CORONAVIRUS IS UPSIDE
DOWN RIGHT NOW.
>> IT'S NOT JUST A LITTLE UPSIDE
DOWN ON THE HANDLING OF THE
PROTESTS.
THERE ARE THREE CRISIS ISSUES
THAT ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
IN HANDLING THE PROTESTS, ONLY
30% APPROVE OF THE JOB PRESIDENT
TRUMP IS DOING.
58% DISAPPROVE.
ON HANDLING THE VIRUS, 44%
APPROVE.
THAT'S UNCHANGED FROM LAST
MONTH.
AND ON THE ECONOMY, 50%
APPROVES.
THAT'S STILL HIS STRONG SUIT.
BUT THAT 50% IS DOWN FOUR POINTS
FROM A MONTH AGO.
SO ACROSS THESE THREE CRISES,
YOU SEE HIS RELATIVE WEAKNESS
AND HIS DECLINING STRENGTH ON
THE ECONOMY, AND WITH THE NEWEST
ISSUE, THE PROTESTS, A KIND OF
REMARKABLY STRONG NET NEGATIVE,
30 APPROVE, 58 DISAPPROVE,
BASICALLY TWO-TO-ONE NEGATIVE.
>> WELL, IN THAT REGARD, YOUR
POLLING SHOWS ON RACE AND
POLICE, SHOWS THAT OVERALL 61%
OF RESPONDENTS APPROVE OF MASS
PROTESTS, WHILE 36% DISAPPROVE.
IS THAT A SURPRISING NUMBER TO
YOU?
>> I THINK IT'S A VERY
INTERESTING NUMBER.
YOU'VE HEARD A LOT OF PEOPLE
MENTION THE COMPARISON OF 1968
WITH TODAY.
BUT THE REACTION TO THE 1968
UNREST AND RIOTS AND CIVIL
DISTURBANCES IN THE WAKE OF
ASSASSINATIONS WAS VASTLY MORE
NEGATIVE.
TODAY, I THINK WHAT WE'RE SEEING
IN THIS 60% APPROVAL NUMBER IS
THE SYMPATHY FOR THE SITUATION
OF BLACK AMERICANS WHO WE HAVE
SEEN IN VIDEOS DYING AT THE
HANDS OF THE POLICE REPEATEDLY
OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
THERE'S MUCH BIGGER DIFFERENCES
OVER WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE
POLICE, BUT IN THIS BROAD SENSE
OF SYMPATHY, 61% IS A SOLID
MAJORITY SUPPORTING THE
PROTESTS.
AND THAT'S DESPITE THE SOMETIMES
VIOLENT NATURE OF SOME OF THOSE
PROTESTS.
>> MOVING ON TO GOVERNOR TONY
EVERS' JOB APPROVAL, YOU FOUND
THAT AMONG YOUR RESPONDENTS 54%
APPROVE OF WHAT HE'S BEEN DOING
AND 38% DISAPPROVE.
NOW, THAT HAS SLIPPED FROM A
HIGH OF 65%?
IS THAT RIGHT?
IN MARCH FOR TONY EVERS?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
IN MARCH IT WAS 65.
THEN IT FELL TO 59.
AND NOW IT'S DOWN TO THE 54.
HE WAS AT 51% IN FEBRUARY,
BEFORE THE VIRUS HIT.
SO HE'S JUST A LITTLE BIT HIGHER
THAN HE WAS THEN.
BUT THE HIGH WATERMARKS THAT HE
HAD IN MARCH AND THAT MANY
GOVERNORS AROUND THE COUNTRY HAD
HAS COME BACK DOWN TO LEVELS
MUCH CLOSER TO THE NORMAL LEVEL
OF HIS SUPPORT BEFORE THE
EPIDEMIC ARRIVED.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CHARLES, WE LEAVE IT THERE.
BOY, YOU KNOW THESE NUMBERS IN
THIS POLL AND YOU HAD A LOT OF
QUESTIONS IN THIS POLL.
NICE TO HAVE YOU.
>> THA