[waves lapping] [wind howling]
[flute music]
- Boozhoo, ikwewag, ininiwag gaye.
Mookaan-giizis nindizhnakaaz,
migizinindoodem.
Mashkiziibi nindoon jibaa.
Mideweninini nindaw.
- My Anishinaabe name is "Rising Sun."
It was given to me by a Bad River elder
many years ago.
I am Eagle Clan.
I'm of the Bad River Band of Lake Superior Ojibwe,
and a member of
the Grand Medicine Lodge, the Midewin.
It's good to be here with you today.
I've been given asemaa,
Indian tobacco,
and asked to speak about
our brother, Ma'iingan.
Maybe I should start by talking about the creation.
The Great Spirit came down to the earth,
took dust, and took it back to Sky World.
Breathed life into the dust of Mother Earth.
Creating Anishinaabe,
spontaneous or original man.
And then Gichi Manidoo lowered Anishinaabe
down to meet his mother.
And so, the first steps that he ever took
was out of love, and honor, and respect
because the Earth was his mother.
And so, it was the Great Spirit
who sent a companion then
to travel with Anishinaabe:
Ma'iingan.
[flute music]
- Ma'iingan, Brother Wolf
was funded in part by
John and Carolyn Peterson Charitable Foundation.
Bitzer Family Legacy Fund,
Eleanor and Thomas Wildrick Family,
Robert and Elke Hagge,
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and Friends of Wisconsin Public Television.
[flute music]
- Thomas Howes: Biidaasige indigo.
Migizi indoodem.
Mii omaa Bapashkominitigong indoonjibaa
MiiimaaNagaajiwawaang indaanoongom.
My name is Thomas Howes.
I'm Eagle Clan.
I'm the Natural Resources Manager
for the Fond du Lac Band of Lake Superior Chippewa.
- Good morning, Tom. - Good morning, Linda.
There's only so much of some traditional philosophies
that are for public and for recording.
And the old man that taught me this is from Red Lake.
I said, "Is this okay? Can I say this much?"
And he said, "Yeah."
All of creation was being made in pairs,
so that they could perpetuate themselves
and they all had partners,
and so, the birds and the deer and so on.
And that original man was lonely,
and so Creator kind of took pity on him.
Says, "Well, I'll send someone.
"I've got work for you,
"but I'm going to send someone to keep you company."
And that was Ma'iingan.
And they gave him instructions to walk the earth,
to name everything, to describe everything.
And Ma'iingan didn't know what to think about this,
and neither did this man and they said, "Well,
this is what Creator wanted."
[ice cracking]
During that journey, the human,
he decided to go across this frozen river.
And when he crossed that frozen river he broke through
and he was going to drown, couldn't get out.
And he asked Ma'iingan for help,
and Ma'iingan wasn't sure.
He looked at him, and he says, "Well,
I don't really owe you anything."
But then, he remembered what Creator told him,
"You guys walk together."
And so, he pulled, and helped the man get out of that river.
In traditional Ojibwe philosophy,
everything is an exchange.
If people do things for you, you owe them.
If a plant does something for you, you owe that plant.
And so, in those times of need when someone helps,
some people call it ezhibizhinikenig.
Man decided that he really had a life debt,
is a way to look at it, with that wolf.
And from there, that's where
they continued that walk around Creation,
and really grew close because of that.
That feeling that, "Well, you saved my life,
and I forever love you."
That's the way I understand that part of the story
as to why there's such a bond.
- I'm Dylan Bizhikiins Jennings
I am the Director of Public Information
here at Great Lakes Indian Fish & Wildlife Commission,
as well as an elected tribal council official
for the Bad River Band.
Ma'iingan is a very delicate subject
to talk about in our community because Ma'iingan
is equivalent to "our brother, our relative."
In our language we talk about Nind inawemaagan idog
or all of our relations, our relatives,
and Ma'iingan is one of those that
we have a really, really tight-knit relationship with.
And our struggle as Anishinaabe people
is always the same thing:
to get others to understand what that relationship is
and why it is important to us.
And so, here, you know, you grow up
thinking that everybody knows about Ma'iingan
and how important and sacred Ma'iingan is,
and then you meet a lot of other people
that really could care less and have no idea.
It's kind of tough to reconcile that.
I think that's why
I've worked so hard my entire life so far
to try and educate people
in a friendly and compassionate way
to kind of reach out the hand
and invite people to our community.
You know, invite people to our area to see
some of the things that we do,
to see how we lives our lives,
to see how we acknowledge this relationship of reciprocity
that we maintain with everything in creation.
- This one's finished.
This was sitting in the closet.
[speaking Ojibwe] Nanabozho and Winona .
My mother and my Aunt Teresa, they were artists,
and my Uncle Fred and Uncle John were artists.
My brother was too, but he gave it up young.
You can smell the oil.
I grew up around it, my mother was always painting
so, I just...
I don't know, as a teenager I just started, you know, 14.
I was always drawing, though, cartoons and stuff.
Well, there's stories out there.
My mother told me a couple with Nanabozho.
Those were my first stories.
I've dreamt a lot of paintings.
I haven't had a dream in a while,
but that's where the blue hair came from.
They were underwater and they were all blue,
all the manidoo spirits.
That's all that was there,
and they're always the same ones.
The four winds.
The Gichi Manidoo has always got a lot of hair,
so this guy is just wrapped in hair in these dreams.
Here I was younger doing,
copying all this Greek mythology
and digging the satyrs and the centaurs and all that stuff,
and especially the satyrs you know, like Pan and stuff,
and it just crossed over.
That's just amazing.
It's like it was waiting to come, you know?
And I said, "Well, there it is."
Here I was trying to do Greek mythology,
and I can do my own,
Anishinaabe.
'Cause I got a lot of stories, but I don't--
Takes so long to do these.
If I really worked at it,
I could do three paintings in a year, big paintings.
You know, when everything comes together for all people,
not just Native people.
We'll see.
- Jeremy St. Arnold: This video here...
This is certainly one of our best videos.
This is the only video at the time
where we had all eight members
of the pack in the same frame,
and you can see some of them are off
on the right-hand side here,
but one of the unique things is the collared female--
There was only one part of this whole morning--
They were outside in front of the camera
for four hours that morning,
and all of her yearling pups
and the other adult members of the pack
circled in front of the camera,
but she kept avoiding the camera.
So, we're wondering if she knows it's there,
if she knows something isn't quite right.
That's one of the exciting parts about doing this
is trying to come up with questions
and then trying to figure out how to answer them.
My name's Jeremy St. Arnold.
I'm the Assistant Wildlife and Forestry Biologist
for Red Cliff.
Our wolf research right now, initially, is just monitoring.
We're doing trail camera work.
We're also doing tracking.
We're doing road surveys in the wintertime
and doing some howling surveys in the summertime
and we're interested in looking at their pack dynamics,
their prey selection, their habitat selection.
We're also interested in kill sites and den sites.
I know that the pack is as big as it's ever been,
as far as what the DNR knows
and since I've been here.
The origin of the pack, as best we know,
was around 2002 with two wolves.
And it's kind of gone up and down,
but right now it is at a peak of 13 wolves,
with eight adults and there are five pups,
and we verified those visually.
We're going out, we're going to set up some cameras,
and we're looking for the den site
and we're tracking this female.
And we keep getting a good solid ping from her
and then it'll disappear,
and we're assuming she's going down into her den,
and that's why she's fading in and out,
and so we're using that in combination with
coordinates we had from the previous month before that
when she was setting up the den
and getting ready to deliver.
And, finally, after four hours, we're thinking, "All right,
"we're just going to set up some cameras on these trails.
"We're not going to find the den today.
"We don't want to stress her too much.
We don't want to harass her."
And then, all of a sudden,
Ron, the wildlife technician for Red Cliff,
he says, "What's that that's coming out from under the tree?"
And we look, and out from under this hemlock tree
comes a wolf pup.
But at first, you couldn't tell.
It just kind of looked like something waddling.
And once we saw it was a wolf pup,
first instinct for me, which apparently is not normal,
was to just run and grab the pup.
We had a plan to eventually get our hands on the pups
and we wanted to PIT tag them,
look over their general condition,
get an idea of how many males and females,
whether they had any parasites or anything like that.
I brought it back to Ron.
We were checking it over,
and then we noticed there's four more pups
that came out from under this tree.
So, we ended up catching one male and one female,
and they were in fantastic condition.
They didn't have any parasites, no ticks,
no fleas, nothing of that nature.
They were as clean and healthy
as any pup that you're going to find at somebody's house.
So, we were really excited to see that.
And when we released them, we noticed that Mom
circled back around
and we're assuming she reclaimed them
because she came so quickly to that area.
So, those myths that you hear
about parents wanting to abandon their young...
They put way too much time and effort
and energy and just their life
into this to just give up like that.
But that was certainly the best day we've had so far
in any of our wolf activities.
That one kind of made it all worthwhile.
- Our people have a lot of
important traditional ecological knowledge
that stems
from thousands of years of observation
within our ancestral homelands.
Today, when a scientist comes up with some study
and provides empirical data,
people really have a hard time questioning that
because it's science, right?
This traditional ecological knowledge
that our people maintain
is what scientists call "phenology" nowadays.
It's data. It's also observation.
And it's exactly what scientists do, as well.
It just dates back even further than
what modern day scientists work with.
So, when you talk about traditional ecological knowledge,
a scientist goes, "Oh, okay, yes, I know what that is,"
but to us it's Anishinaabe-izhitwaawin,
our teachings, our way of life.
- That's a coyote in the one.
It's a deer.
There's a bear.
You can see its nose.
I don't know if anybody wants to peek at it.
You can see the bear came up and sniffed the camera.
He's got his eyeball in it on that one.
Bears really like to come and investigate our cameras.
And they...
If I accidentally have any scent from the beaver on there
they will really sniff at it,
and they will rub it on themselves.
Anytime we have--
I first started setting up trail cameras in June 2014.
We initially, for the first six months, had tremendous luck.
We were getting as many photos
as we could possibly want.
And then, as luck would have it,
as soon as I switched over to the cameras that have video,
which I was very excited about,
I thought, "Oh, it's going to be easy.
We'll get all these wolf videos."
We had two years where we didn't have wolves show up on camera.
We knew they were there, we saw their sign,
and they just kept eluding me.
Part of it is, when we first started using
the cameras that had video,
they were using white flash and it never occurred to me
that white flash was going to be limiting
in terms of trying to get wolf footage,
but it turns out that of all the species out there,
they have shown the most sensitivity to that white light.
The coyotes don't seem to shy away from it for very long.
Marten will go right up into the flash.
Deer don't seem to be very phased by it.
Bears aren't phased by it.
But wolves, they kind of just freak out.
You will not get activity at that camera from wolves,
but one of the cameras that has a covert IR
or a black flash?
They will show up at that camera.
So, we just were persistent, we kept at it,
and we started getting
all kinds of wolf videos.
We have hours and hours now
of not just photo slideshows, but videos as well,
and I've had people come up and express gratitude
for the fact that there are the videos on YouTube now
because now they can share that with people
and say, "Hey, look at this amazing thing that Red Cliff has
"and look at all the wildlife that we have,
"and we have this amazing species
"that we thought was gone,
and they're back,
and now we can try to keep them here."
It's been very positive.
I've been very impressed with that
because nowadays wolves are a very polarizing topic.
You don't know if you're going to get the hatred,
you don't know if you're going to get the fear and uncertainty
from people that don't know much about them,
or if you're going to get just this blind love and loyalty
that comes from the pro-wolf side.
I'm obviously pro-wolf,
but I don't want to go too far on that side.
I have to be scientifically rigorous about things
so I still have to go and investigate.
If they do depredate an animal
or if they are harassing a house
then I still have to try
to help out the human aspect of it, too.
Beaver activity there where they chewed off
some of the bark and they chewed that tree down.
Wolves, when they come into an area
that they haven't previously been in before,
they impact absolutely everything.
They're apex predators.
They can help stabilize beaver populations.
And once beaver populations are stabilized,
you can get improved river conditions.
They can change the temperatures of the water,
make streams better for trout.
They can allow vegetation to come back to river corridors.
And once that vegetation comes back,
you can reduce your sediment loading in your rivers,
you can increase the number of nesting bird species
that come into those areas,
and it also keeps your deer herds healthier.
It's not just that they're
at more stable levels for the vegetation,
but they will take out the old and the weak and the sick.
And then all of a sudden, you have a fit deer population
which is obviously a better population to have.
- We're very fortunate to where we,
as the Bad River Band, have been able to
build up our Natural Resources Department
and really making it a strong entity for protecting
everything that means the world to us.
Creating a Ma'iingan plan to help protect Ma'iingan
to integrate that TEK,
that "traditional ecological knowledge"
into the more technical templates
that your typical biologist might utilize.
It's a very beautiful dialogue
when a biologist sits down with
one of our gichi-aya'aa, our elders,
and they sit down together and they talk about things
because
they do, they teach each other.
- I thought the idea of a wolf management plan:
it's going to be loved, it's going to be well-received.
The tribe is obviously pro-wolf.
It never crossed my mind that "management"
was going to be a taboo word,
but it turns out that some people look at it as,
you know, you're trying to manage your brother,
or control your brother
and that seems like an inappropriate thing.
That's not a natural thing,
as opposed to just coexisting with your brother
and trying to be a steward of your brother.
Set them up for success.
That's all we're really trying to do.
We're trying to protect their habitat
'cause they can succeed on their own.
They don't need us for that.
That's why we ended up settling on wolf protection plan,
'cause ideally, we wanted to be stewards
of the wolf population, but we ultimately
want to protect it as well.
The reservation is listed as a wolf sanctuary.
So, it's a place where wolves are not allowed to be trapped,
they're not allowed to be harmed or harassed so that
tribal members and people that visit the reservation
can have these opportunities
to see these animals and hear these animals
and just to know they're there.
There's something to be said
just for knowing they're there,
and that they're performing their ecological function.
There's a value, an inherent value in that.
- Rabbet Before Horses Strickland: I just had this idea of the last waterhole.
There's 11 manidoo that I always use.
Those are the ones I've always seen in dreams.
So, I figured out who they were,
'cause usually the winds are blowing air
like Botticelli s, yeah.
They're not people, they're spirits,
except for he's half Nanabozho .
That's his grandmother, Nookomis.
That's the North Wind,
that's the South Wind.
That's the West Wind, and that's his dad.
One day, she was picking berries in a field
and a sudden gust of wind.
That was it, conception of Nanabozho .
Anyway, they're sitting around this waterhole,
it's the last waterhole, and they're creating a new Earth.
I'll make a grid on here bigger.
That takes a while to figure the scale out,
and then I'll just transfer 'em.
- What we always tell our children is that
our stories are so important because
they teach us how to be.
You can listen to a story like how this place was created,
you can listen to a story about Ma'iingan ,
and if you listen to it one time
you might get something out of that.
You might learn something about yourself,
but you go and you listen to it again,
and you pick up something completely different
that you would have never thought of before.
And that's how our way of life is.
We don't just sit down and read a book,
and then know all of our stories
and what to draw out of 'em.
We spend our life learning about these things.
Yay! Giinitam, Giinitam.
We try to speak to our daughter... - Child: Ay-yay?
- ...in the language as much as possible.
[clapping] She loves stories.
Almost one-years-old now, but she loves,
loves just listening to stories.
So, that's how we're going to battle
some of the things that our people
are up against these days.
It's our stories, our teachings, our way of life
that are going to save our children
as they become rooted in their identity
and know who they are.
That's what's going to help us.
[drumming and singing]
>> HI.
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WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
WE'RE WATCHING MA'IINGAN:
BROTHER WOLF, THE STORY, THE
OJIBWA STORY OF THE RELATIONSHIP
WITH HUMAN BEING AND WOLF.
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THANKING THE STORYTELLERS WHO
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[SPEAKING IN OJIBWA LANGUAGE]
>> GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.
MY NAME IS DYLAN JENNINGS.
I WORK AS THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC
INFORMATION FOR THE GREAT LAKES
INDIAN FISH & WILDLIFE
COMMISSION AS WELL AS SERVE BY
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>> THANK YOU.
SO THE IMAGE OF OF YOU AND YOUR
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A LITTLE LATER AS THE SHOW COMES
TOGETHER, MAYBE YOU CAN DESCRIBE
THIS CONNECTION WITH MA'IINGAN
AND THE CULTURAL RESURGENCE
WITHIN OJIBWA COMMUNITIES.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IN OUR WAY OF LIFE, WE VERY MUCH
BELIEVE THAT THE LIVES OF
MA'IINGAN, OF THE WOLF, AND THE
LIVES OF THE TRIBE, THEY
PARALLEL EACH OAMPLET THAT'S A
VERY IMPORTANT TEACHING IN OUR
LIFE AS THE WAY WE UNDERSTAND
THE WORLD AROUND US.
AS WE BEGIN TO REBUILD
EVERYTHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO
US, OUR LANGUAGE, CULTURE,
CEREMONIES, WE ALSO SEE THAT
PAIR ARE LEGAL IN -- PARALLEL OF THE
MA'IINGAN AS WELL.
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>> [SPEAKING IN LANGUAGE OTHER
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>> MY NAME IS MIC ISHAM.
I'M FROM OTTOWA LAKE, LAC COURTE
OREILLES OF THE EAGLE CLAN.
WHEN MY FATHER GOT OUT OF
VIETNAM, MY PARENTS GOT DIVORCED
AND SO I WENT TO MILWAUKEE, WENT
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SUMMERS UP ON THE RESERVATION.
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THE TWO WORLDS.
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LITTLE WHILE.
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[percussion music]
- Boozhoo.
"Biidaabanookwe" nindizhinikaaz.
Migizi ninooodem.
Mitaawangaa nindoonjibaa.
My English name is Wanda McFaggen.
I come from the Migizi Clan, the Eagle Clan.
Sand Lake Community is my home
within the St. Croix Reservation.
I'd like to tell a story
about
the wolf, Ma'iingan ,
and how he came to be with us here on earth.
When the Creator first formed the land here,
the last one that he lowered down
to the earth was Anishinaabe , original man.
Anishinaabe asked the Creator
why did he put him here alone.
So then, after the Creator thought about it,
the Creator gave him a companion,
and that companion was a wolf, Ma'iingan .
When they had walked here together,
they became very close, like brothers.
And we still consider Ma'iingan to be our brother today.
After their journey was done,
the Creator had told them
that they have to go to separate paths,
but they would always stay close.
He told them, "What will happen to one
will also happen to the other."
That was true
because if you look back in our history,
we lost a lot of our land.
We lost a lot of our way
to the point where we were almost became extinct.
Assimilated.
And if you look back on Ma'iingan's history,
you can see the same.
Anytime that I see Ma'iingan ,
I put tobacco down
out of respect.
We have to take care of him
because if he vanishes,
who knows?
We may vanish, too.
- His face, does he look big?
Maybe his forehead, huh?
Right here.
Bring it down a touch.
These are all the manidoo I use every time.
Someone said, "How come you don't put more women in?"
I said, "Well,
"there's Nookomis and Winona,
"and two of the winds.
I can't make all the winds women."
[Rabbett laughs]
In this one, I made the Eyes of the Dead a woman.
Usually, that was a man, but it doesn't matter.
Eyes of the Dead, it's just the past.
It's always there.
It's always present.
It's just the eyes of all the native indigenous people
who have died in the taking of this country.
It's a reminder.
Nookomis , that means grandmother.
A very wise old woman.
Basically, just all our oral traditions go back with her
being the grandmother and bringing up Nanabozho.
Up here, they say Wenabozho .
[flute music]
It's not about me or anybody else.
This will be here for the youth,
you know, tomorrow.
The eighth generation.
And now, and the ancestors.
That's what all of my work's for.
That's it.
It's for the present, the past, and the future
which all exist now anyway, right?
We don't have a past and future without the present.
It's all here. [chuckles]
Right?
- Lacey Hill-Kastern: Here we have the Kakagon Sloughs Pack.
We've got the Little Girl's Point/ Morrison Creek Pack,
West Firelane pack, and then, the Potato River pack.
The purple line is the boundaries
of the Bad River Reservation,
and then the red line is this proposed
six mile buffer in our wolf plan.
I'm Lacey Hill-Kastern.
I am the Wildlife Program Manager for the Bad River Tribe.
I started working for the tribe back in 2010,
so I've been here for seven years now,
and basically, I oversee
the entire wildlife program for the reservation,
and part of that is wolf monitoring.
Though we actually started monitoring for wolves,
trapping and radio collaring wolves back in 1996,
so the tribe's been doing that work for 21 years now.
We want to protect the wolves on the reservation,
but we also want to look at neighboring landowners
and like other agencies as well,
because the wolves they don't know political boundaries,
so they're coming on and off reservation
and we can put whatever we want for protection for 'em
on reservation, but we have four packs of wolves
and they go on and off reservation
so our protections aren't good enough
to protect those tribal wolf packs.
So we really want to work with the
Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources
and also neighboring landowners too,
and just like, "How do they feel about wolves?"
and, kind of, explain to 'em why it's important to protect
at least these tribal wolves.
Ma'iingan is very important to the Ojibwe culture,
and is seen as a brother.
The Creator told 'em that they needed to walk
in separate paths, but what happened to one
would happen to the other.
So that's really important for a lot of the Ojibwe people.
- That story and Ma'iingan ,
that's something that we try to raise
all of our children around in our communities
to understand those relationships.
That relationship of reciprocity
with everything in Creation, especially those things
that have walked that path with us.
Ma'iingan is one of those beings
that has always been there by our side
and has also been there to watch out for us,
much like it's our responsibility today
to watch out for him as well,
because our lives parallel each other.
In our tribal communities, we have leadership
that is tasked with the responsibility
of taking care of our people
and watching out for our people.
Ma'iingan in their communities,
they do the same as we would do in our tribal community.
You know, watching out for one another,
taking care of each other, feeding each other.
Very similar things that I don't think
a lot of people think about as much.
- So, this is a regular VHF collar.
So, this is typically what we use
to collar wolves.
This is what's been used
for collaring wolves for many years.
This will go on the animal.
This VHF portion will hang on the bottom,
and this is what emits the radio signal.
We work closely with the
Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources
for radio tracking efforts.
This is the time of year that we typically trap.
A lot of the traps we actually set
right on the roads 'cause we have a lot of backroads
on the reservation,
and the wolves use the roads a lot as travel corridors.
We use foothold traps, and they're designed
just to grab the wolf by the toes
between the foot pad and the toe pads,
so it doesn't injure the wolf.
Once a wolf steps in that trap,
it'll grab between those pads
and then, it's on a drag system
so the wolf can actually pull the trap
and run into a more wooded area.
And then, it's got a grapple hook on a chain
that'll tangle around a tree or vegetation
and hold the wolf there until we get there.
Wolves are pretty docile in the trap.
They'll usually just be laying there.
We use a ketamine / xylazine mixture to immobilize.
And then, we'll put the radio collar on 'em,
and then give 'em a reversal drug,
and then just let 'em wake up, and continue to monitor 'em
and make sure everything's okay.
- I've got some smelly products underneath that rock
that when a wolf is traveling these roads at night,
and smell that, in order for them
to really get to what they're smelling
they're going to have to come up to this rock here
and place a foot, ideally right here
is where they're going to place the foot
to brace themselves and then reach and move the rock
or nuzzle the rock with their nose.
And ideally, that's where their foot's going to be
is where the trap is set right now.
And then, they'll be caught.
If the wolf comes in here and works a set,
you can see its tracks really well
and so that's something we're looking for.
And then, also, if you're unfortunate enough
the wolves will taunt you sometimes.
And they will literally come up and turn around
and will drop a scat bed right on the trap.
They came in, they smelled your bait or the lure,
they weren't impressed, and they left you
their calling card I guess.
[Ethan laughs]
- Hill-Kastern: We do have lone wolves on the reservation.
They kind of will skirt the boundaries
between the packs, go further in another pack's home range,
but they usually don't stay there for too long.
We had one collared wolf that we collared back in 2010,
my first year working here.
And he had dispersed after about two months of me being here
and he actually started a new pack
down in the Rice Lake area.
So, it was really interesting.
Because of the radio collars,
we were actually able to see where
some of these individuals are going.
One of my wolves--
We had collared this individual down here.
That's why there's a lot of points in that area
because I was getting locations
every three hours after the collaring had occurred.
And then,
this blue area actually covers 180 square miles,
which average home range is like 40 to 80 square miles,
and he was covering 180.
It was just insane.
But then, he ended up joining the Potato River pack.
But late winter around February is when they're breeding.
He would take a hike down to the Mercer area.
So, he'd be down there for a couple weeks,
then he'd come back to the Potato River pack area
which was fascinating.
- Now, I'll just work on this little section right here.
That's where I was.
Maxfield Parrish would use ink on his.
And there's no problem with this.
I can just go around it.
I don't have to go over it or anything.
When I glaze it, I can just glaze around it
with a transparent glaze.
The technique is really old.
Leonardo used it and Maxfield Parrish used it.
It's seeing the light through one color
going through another color
and it just changes it into a nice mix.
It's actually using light to mix.
This one, I'm going to use two glazes I think, two grounds.
I'm going to use a blue for the skin,
and then the rest,
I'm going to use like a Naples yellow
and a burnt sienna.
Find a medium in there, a nice color, nice hue, I mean.
Okay, I'm done with that.
Ay yi yi. [laughing]
I'm going to go up here.
It's shadowy up here.
*
These are all manidoo.
I just put 'em in human form.
Zhaawani.
I don't know.
The four winds are right there,
and Nanabozho's moon.
That's his light for the night.
And the only reason I figured out he's the moon
is he had a tattoo of the moon on his face.
I think it's just a passion now.
It's not even about...
what other people think.
I would do it anyway.
- Hill-Kastern: All right, one, two, three.
[all howling in a chorus]
[laughing] - That was cool.
Let's do it again!
- I'm working on planning a big educational event
for Wolf Awareness Week in October.
We have a program through our Natural Resources Department
that once a month we try to have these different activities
to get youth more involved in the natural resources.
So far, I've done the VHF tracking with 'em,
we've done some winter tracking,
and I'd really like to get some kids out
and do some wolf howling.
So anywhere from three to eleven wolves.
So, is Edith here?
- I've been asked to come in and tell everybody
a little bit about Ma'iingan.
Now, we know she's been saying, "Wolf, wolf, wolf."
In our language, the word for it is Ma'iingan.
Can everybody say that?
- All: Ma'iingan.
- Right on.
There's a story about Ma'iingan,
and the story has to do with a person.
His name was Anishinaabe.
And he asked the Creator,
the Creator of all living things,
"Can I have somebody to walk with me?"
And so, the Creator sent Ma'iingan.
[boy howling]
- Great job.
- Woman: And Ma'iingan and Anishinaabe
walked together for the longest time.
But there came a time
when they had to part their ways.
They came to a fork in the road
that they had to leave each other,
but
Ma'iingan said, "I will always be there for you."
And Anishinaabe said, "I'll always be there for you, too.
And whatever happens to you, will happen to me."
So, we always look at Ma'iingan
and we remember that time that we walked with Ma'iingan,
and we take care of Ma'iingan
'cause we remember what happens to Ma'iingan
will happen to us.
[fire crackling]
- You know, I wanted to be a wildlife biologist
ever since I was a little girl,
so actually being it now and getting to go out
and study wolves and study eagles,
it's awesome.
It was really fascinating when I was working
on the wolf plan and seeing that, wow, in 1996,
we already had three packs on the reservation.
That's amazing!
So because I think, in the state of Wisconsin in 1996,
the population was only around 300,
and now we're at around 925.
And even 21 years ago,
we already had those three packs established on the reservation.
- Dylan Jennings: Despite what's out there
in popular culture, in books,
you see a lot of Ma'iingan being portrayed as,
you know, the Little Red Riding Hood wolf
and you see a lot of movies about werewolves
and other things that really do spook people
and freak people out,
but we were always taught not to be afraid of that.
That when they presented themselves to us to be seen,
that it was a blessing.
It was a gift.
You put down your tobacco. [rain falling]
That those ones were part of our way of life,
part of a very, very important part of Creation
and that it was a gift to have an encounter with Ma'iingan.
- I see gentleness.
I don't see
this Red Riding Hood version,
and I'm not sure why
stories like that came about.
We don't read those kind of stories
because they just give a bad light on our relative.
They make him seem like he's,
"Don't leave your child outside
'cause he'll come and snatch him or something," you know?
They make him out to be something
that I don't believe he is.
They're beautiful.
Just their whole characteristic,
and how they care for their babies.
They're very protective of their babies.
They don't want nobody to hurt them,
but they won't hurt some of us around their babies
because there's that trust.
And I believe somewhere in the back of Ma'iingan's mind,
all through their ancestry,
I think they remember
how they walked with us.
So, when I see one, I put tobacco down.
I've taken my grandson to zoos,
and we see them
back and forth, back and forth.
And that's hurtful.
Because they shouldn't be there like that.
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[flute music]
[waves crashing]
- Joe Rose: And so the Great Spirit, Gitchi Manidoo,
told both Anishinaabe and Ma'iingan,
"In many ways the two of you are alike.
"When you take a mate, it will be for life.
Both of you will be excellent hunters."
And then, Gitchi Manidoo also spoke of prophecy.
Telling of a time when others may come among you.
Both of you will be hunted for your hair.
Ma'iingan for his hide,
Anishinaabe for his scalp.
The Great Spirit told both Anishinaabe and Ma'iingan
of Seven Prophecies.
And so, today,
we've entered into the age of the Seventh Fire,
Niizhwaaswi Ishkode,
when human beings encroach upon Ma'iingan's territory,
Ma'iingan retreats further and further
into the wilderness,
and so the time may come
when there will be no wilderness.
If that time comes, you Ma'iingan,
you'll pass out of existence.
You'll become extinct.
And so, you Anishinaabe,
if your brother Ma'iingan passes out of existence,
you'll soon follow.
You will die of great loneliness of spirit.
- So, now we're waiting to see clusters
from the satellite collar, and if we see a number of them
in one tight area in a short period of time,
we know that it's most likely
either they have a kill there,
or they have a den or rendezvous site there.
These rendezvous sites are where they like to bring the pups
when they're done with the den.
Once the pups are mobile and they refuse to stay in the den
and they're starting to eat meat,
and roam around.
And so, often at these rendezvous sites
you can find bones that are chewed up
with little puppy teeth marks on 'em.
I've heard of people finding traffic cones, plastic bottles.
Anything a puppy would chew on at home,
a wolf pup is not above chewing on, as well.
And there's generally going to be one member of the pack
that's kind of acting as a nanny, there,
and that could be male, female, older wolf, a younger wolf.
They seem to take turns doing it.
I think that's why, historically, the tribes
looked at them as being the brother of Native Americans
because there's just so many things about them
that are similar.
I mean we always say that it takes a village
to raise children, and with a wolf pack,
they absolutely use that principle.
Every single member of the pack
takes some kind of role in raising those pups
whether it's just leading them on a hunt,
being a nanny for a little bit,
bringing back food, and the way that they
try to keep track of each other.
They always want to know where each other are,
so there's almost unlimited numbers of parallels
between humans and wolves
if you're really willing to look for 'em
and be honest about it.
- Marvin Defoe.
Lived in the woods, my family.
So I've had many encounters with the Ma'iingan.
Met face to face with Ma'iingan one time.
Must have both hit that trail at the same time,
about from me to you,
and we both went,
looked in each other's eyes for about five seconds, you know,
and he took off one way, I took off another way.
You know, I think it startled both of us.
[receiver crackles]
- Ooh, she's actually closer than I thought.
I'd say she's probably no more than
half a mile away from us right now.
We've definitely cut down some of the distance.
We are closer.
And it sounds like
she's just off of this trail.
My guess is that if we start walking up this trail
she's going to try to circle around us
and try to get a good idea of what we are.
And then, she'll probably move off a little further,
but there's a chance we can find some tracks up here
and try to get a pack count potentially.
She's been hanging out in this general area,
so there's either a food source nearby,
or there's a chance she's looking for a new den
because we would expect her to be having pups
within the next couple weeks or so.
[receiver pinging, crackling]
[laughing]
She already started to circle us.
She's crossed over to this side of the trail
though for sure.
What we see is we have a number of individuals
that have come together after fanning out,
and once they hit this deeper snow,
they converge into a single-file line,
which is very typical of wolves.
And they're trying to take the path of least resistance
so that the one in the front breaking trail
is the one expending the most energy,
and the rest of them can just fall in line.
And you'll see this, the deeper the snow gets,
the more you'll see this type of behavior
where they want to go single file.
And then, once the snow is gone or it's melting,
they'll be more likely to fan out
and they'll cover more distance.
But we can see we have one, two, three, four, five,
six, seven sets of tracks
converging on this first path,
and then we have one, two, three, four
converging on this.
You can see my hand fits right inside there.
- Marvin Defoe: I remember one time I had a dog.
We called him "Blizzard."
Next to our house every night,
Ma'iingan, they'd holler over there.
So, I watched that dog one time going over there.
So, I got down on my hands and knees
and I followed that dog over to that pack of wolves,
and come right in there.
Didn't fight or didn't holler.
Just watching, they were just living.
So when you live in the woods and you live amongst them,
I've had nothing to be afraid of.
You know, I've never had a bad experience
with the Ma'iingan, all my encounters.
And even seen a litter of their pups,
watching 'em.
- As we were following a set of tracks,
there was about 1-1/2 to 2 feet of snow,
and we saw one area that didn't have any snow in it.
And then, we saw a head poke up
and that's how we knew right away
that we had found the den.
Then it was a mad scramble
to try to catch all the little guys
because they all went in different directions.
"Ron, you go that way, you grab these guys.
I'll grab these guys."
All right, we got 'em corralled, but those two escaped again.
So, when we were trying to make sure
that they were staying warm,
whenever we had one that we were done checking over,
Ron would take it and put it in his coat,
and so, at the end, he's got six pups in his coat
and they're crawling up his back.
Can't exactly get 'em out of there very easily,
but at the same time, it's a pretty fun problem to have.
- This is another aspect of the dreams
that I kept was the blue hair.
I couldn't really make out any detail.
I could see hair though.
It just looked like they were in a lot of wind
so I tried to figure out a way to do that
and that's where I started using hair as wind,
and buckskin for direction.
That came after I stopped using reference.
I stopped copying things,
and so it was like a four-year transition
into accepting what I could do on my own,
and then the dreams started.
At first, it was just like a regular dream.
I didn't know what the heck it was,
but then, when it started repeating,
it was kind of strange.
Apparently, I wake up in my sleep and draw.
It's a scribble.
I have a few of those.
I don't know where they are right now,
but the style lends itself to doing any,
like, just me making something up.
Like, this was the idea of the last waterhole, you know.
There's no more and so they're creating a new world
out of this so
it's like a combination of the earth hunters,
creation of a new world.
You know, that's all going into this.
I'm taking people from the traditions
and we put it into something new.
I think being traditional, if you don't add anything to it,
it's just going to die.
So, you know, I bring new things in, I don't know.
People don't have to like it.
It doesn't matter.
[flute music]
- And so, in those prophecies,
the Great Spirit said that in the Age of the Seventh Fire
that a new people would arise.
The new people would turn and look back.
They would retrace their footsteps
that would take them back to
ancient times and ancient knowledge.
They'd pick up the sacred bundles
that have fallen by the wayside.
To get the teachings and the meanings of these bundles,
they'd go to certain elders
who had taken them underground for generations
because of persecution.
So, they say that Anishinaabe
were given a very special gift.
We refer to it as mashkiki.
Loosely interpreted in our language,
it means medicine.
Along with that medicine
goes a responsibility,
and that responsibility
is to go out and educate others
as to how to live
in harmony and balance with the natural world.
- Many of our elders will talk about that,
about how we really had to put things--
our way of life, our ceremonies, everything--
underground and hold it close
because it was really being forcefully ripped from us.
And it's not like that anymore.
But it's a long, long journey
to bring that stuff back.
It takes a lot.
It takes a lot to rebuild your language infrastructure,
takes a lot to bring our ceremonies back.
It takes a lot of time, a lot of sacrifices.
[wolf pup howls a quick, high-pitched howl]
And now we see Ma'iingan,
and the population has been doing pretty well,
making its way back, but now, different entities
want to put an end to that and stop some of that thriving,
and that's a scary thought to us,
because as our communities start to do better
as we bring back our way of life
and bring it back strong as we can.
We think about that, too.
What's going to happen to Ma'iingan?
- Even though I grew up in between two reservations
and I'm Native American myself,
I wasn't raised with any of the traditions
or any of the stories.
I wasn't raised hearing about how important wolves were
and the spiritual connection.
I wasn't raised learning anything about the clans
or anything like that.
And since I've started working for Red Cliff,
I've come to learn a lot about that.
Some of it I've learned on my own,
some of it with Ron.
We've attended events, we've talked to some elders.
Tried to learn the language a little bit more
so we can understand a little bit of that aspect of it.
We try to lay down tobacco
when an animal has to be harmed
or when we find one that met a bad time.
I think we've learned from each other,
we've learned from the tribe
and we've certainly learned a lot from the animals.
We've been humbled by them more times
than we can probably count. - Yeah.
- They made us realize that no matter what we read,
those animals are not going to ever be
put into some little box.
There's no black and white,
just a lot of gray area with animals.
They don't care what the literature says.
- So, I've given some thought
to that story of the Ma'iingan.
It just comes up with a word that I think of
is Anishinaabe: izhichigewin.
Izhichigewin.
It's that you don't just talk about
or read about something, you live it.
You practice,
and along with that practice is you show respect.
Every living thing there is on this earth,
and when you make your moccasin tracks,
you be careful so that when you look back,
you can say you left some good tracks
so that seven generations ahead,
they too can make their moccasin tracks.
But that story,
the Anishinaabe and the Ma'iingan,
if you know the story
and you follow the teaching,
that Ma'iingan is my brother,
my own flesh and blood, my brother.
That's my brother.
I love him as a family.
And that is the essence of the feeling
of Anishinaabe.
We talk about that: Ma'iingan, that's my brother.
That's my brother.
[paint brush swishing] - There, that's good.
I'll put it high just in case I pull it.
I think I'm going to put Ojibwe over there.
Rabbett and Ojibwe .
Ojibwe 'cause I'm part of something
bigger than me.
I've always done that since I was 15, so.
I just want to make the point that I'm just a part.
I'm not it.
[flute music]
I didn't dream this.
It's just of Creation.
I have no idea why I did this.
[Rabbett chuckles]
A collective consciousness, yeah.
The idea of the last waterhole.
They're creating a new world there.
That's the turtle.
Maybe it's kind of like up in "What's in the News," huh?
But I beat it out, and this is the last waterhole.
All that's left is the spirit.
No people.
[chuckles]
- And so, we're living in very historic times now.
And it's predicted that in the age of the Seventh Fire
that all humankind
would come to a fork in the road
and would be confronted with a choice.
It was said that one fork in the road
would be a hard surface,
and the other fork in the road
would be a more natural path.
Today, we see that hard surface
[tide flowing]
that pollutes and destroys
and upsets the natural balance
of Mother Earth, the plants, the animals, the water, the air.
In this eleventh hour
of a very serious environmental crisis,
we say " gaawiin"
and that means, "No, it's not going to happen."
We will win this battle.
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THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I THINK THAT IT NEEDS TO GO ON
THE RECORD THAT AT ONE POINT IN
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WHEN I GRADUATED COLLEGE AND I
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I HAVE A COUPLE MORE EXAMPLES,
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[guitar music]
Ma'iingan: Brother Wolf
was funded in part by:
John and Carolyn Peterson Charitable Foundation,
Bitzer Family Legacy Fund,
Eleanor and Thomas Wildrick Family,
Robert and Elke Hagge,
National Endowment for the Humanities,
The Focus Fund for Wisconsin Programming,
and Friends of Wisconsin Public Television.