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stiffer sentence. Steil
Dugan is expecting to

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appeal the conviction. And
then there were five. This

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week, one of the six
Democrats running for

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governor dropped out of the
race. Milwaukee County

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Executive David Crowley
announced he would no

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longer seek the position,
saying it has become clear

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that I will not be the
Democratic nominee for

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governor. After being
outpaced by other

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candidates, he threw his
support to Lieutenant

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Governor Sarah Rodriguez,
also still in the race.

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Francesca Hong, Mandela
Barnes, Kelda, Roys and

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Joel Brennan. This week's
Inside Wisconsin politics

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took up changes in the
primary campaigns for

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governor.
>> Now we're down to five.

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Zac is it's still crowded,
or is this race shifted to

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you in a meaningful way?
>> I think the crowd. It

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depends more on the lanes
of what we're talking about.

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I think there's clearly a
progressive lane. There's

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clearly a more
establishment center,

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government lane. And then
there's a question of if

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there's room in between for
any of the rest of them to

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kind of stake their own
area, or if they're

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competing for those two
groups. But there clearly

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is this sense, as the two
candidates have dropped out,

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that have now endorsed Sara
Rodriguez, that there is an

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establishment going on and
that fits this national

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theme that we're seeing of
establishment Dems worrying

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about progressive Dems
potentially undermining

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chances to win seats in
November, versus

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progressives who are saying,
no, we are the ones that

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are going to win these
primaries and win in

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November, get behind us as
we keep going forward. So

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there's definitely a
shrinkage there, but it's

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almost a shrinkage into
lanes as opposed to these

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individual candidates.
>> How do you see those

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lanes? I mean, I think just
a few weeks ago, I was kind

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of having a hard time
putting the candidates into

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different lanes or buckets,
however you want to do it.

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What are the lanes now as
you see it?

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>> Yeah, I think Zac sort
of hit the nail on the head

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with establishment versus
progressive. And one way

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that we're seeing that is
when these candidates are

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dropping out, that they are
endorsing other candidates.

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There's a world in which
you drop out and you say, I

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love my party and I all I
want is for a Democrat to

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win. And David Crowley did
that kind of initially in

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his original announcement
that he was stepping down.

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He didn't immediately
endorse anyone. He said,

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the most important thing is
just that somebody beats

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Tom Tiffany in the fall and
then this morning came out

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and endorsed Sara Rodriguez.
So I think that's a sign

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that people are kind of
choosing teams and trying

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to say, who do I think is
the best ability for

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Democrats to win in
November? Is it the sort of

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Hong progressive lane? Is
it the Rodriguez, more sort

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of establishment? Lane?
>> Nobody that I've heard

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has come out and said, well,
we got to stop Francesca

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Hong, you know, but we've
seen this debate that

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you've referenced at the
national level where you

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have sort of the national
establishment, Democrats

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fighting against this, you
know, Democratic Socialist

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caucus that's growing. Is
there an unspoken we got to

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stop Francesca Hong in all
this, or are we making that

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up? Are we looking for
conflict where there is

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none here in Wisconsin?
>> I don't think it'd be

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wise for anyone to say that
out loud from the

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Democratic Party, because
there's a very good chance

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that Hong can win this, and
then they have to unite

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behind her. So that is the
the other half of this game

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is you can drop out and you
can endorse someone that

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you would prefer, but then
you still want to create a

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sense of party unity that
that is still the goal is

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for the Democrats in their
minds, is to beat Tom

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Tiffany. And whether that
is Francesca Hong or

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whether that's Sara
Rodriguez or Mandela Barnes

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or Brennan or Roys or
anyone that's still in this

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race at this point. They
have to worry about that in

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the long run. So in the
short run, we're not seeing

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some of the disunity of
attacking each other. That

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was a potential with a more
crowded race. There's still

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time. There's still million
dollar ad buys coming up.

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Kelda Roys just announced
an hour ago that she's got

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1.2 million that she's
going to announce, and

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she's going to spend every
last penny of it. She's not

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going to drop out of this
race. And she has a history

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in some of these big
competitive elections of

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towards the end. So I don't
think it's going to be all

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quiet and rosy from from
here until August. There's

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going to be some fireworks
going to be some fireworks