1 00:00:04,137 --> 00:00:07,407 >> The following program is a PBS Wisconsin Original 2 00:00:07,474 --> 00:00:10,377 production. >> Keep your TVs up going 3 00:00:10,444 --> 00:00:12,980 all night long. >> A nail biter election 4 00:00:13,046 --> 00:00:16,250 night leads to the closest race of its kind in 80 5 00:00:16,316 --> 00:00:19,052 years, as David Crowley pulls off a comeback for 6 00:00:19,119 --> 00:00:21,722 the ages to become the Democratic nominee for 7 00:00:21,788 --> 00:00:24,825 governor. Good evening. I'm Zac 8 00:00:24,892 --> 00:00:27,160 Schultz filling in for Frederica Freyberg tonight 9 00:00:27,227 --> 00:00:29,763 on here. And now we'll take you through another action 10 00:00:29,830 --> 00:00:32,833 packed election night in Wisconsin and talk with our 11 00:00:32,900 --> 00:00:35,068 political experts about what it means for November. 12 00:00:35,135 --> 00:00:37,804 A closer look at why vote tallies were delayed again 13 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:41,208 from Milwaukee Central count. And Reverend Al 14 00:00:41,275 --> 00:00:43,577 Sharpton points a national spotlight on the funeral of 15 00:00:43,644 --> 00:00:47,781 Cory Ruiz. It's "Here& Now" for August 14th. 16 00:00:49,883 --> 00:00:52,419 >> Funding for Here and Now is provided by the Focus 17 00:00:52,486 --> 00:00:57,157 Fund for Journalism and Friends of PBS Wisconsin. 18 00:01:04,498 --> 00:01:06,733 >> The race that once looked like a runaway 19 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:09,803 turned into a photo finish, as David Crowley narrowly 20 00:01:09,870 --> 00:01:13,040 defeated Francesca Hong to win the Democratic 21 00:01:13,106 --> 00:01:15,309 nomination. Now that Wisconsin's gubernatorial 22 00:01:15,375 --> 00:01:17,511 election is set, the candidates are already 23 00:01:17,578 --> 00:01:20,047 turning the page from the primary to the general. 24 00:01:20,113 --> 00:01:23,517 Here and now, reporter Steven Potter has the story. 25 00:01:23,584 --> 00:01:25,786 >> You know, we're not going to win this race 26 00:01:25,853 --> 00:01:29,256 focusing on ideology alone. It's about focusing on 27 00:01:29,323 --> 00:01:32,326 Wisconsin values. about the very soul of the 28 00:01:32,392 --> 00:01:35,128 state of Wisconsin. >> After more than a few 29 00:01:35,195 --> 00:01:37,831 twists for the Democrats in the primary, Wisconsin 30 00:01:37,898 --> 00:01:39,967 voters now know which two candidates they'll choose 31 00:01:40,033 --> 00:01:42,503 from in the election for governor this fall. On the 32 00:01:42,569 --> 00:01:45,539 Democratic side, it will be Milwaukee County Executive 33 00:01:45,606 --> 00:01:47,975 David Crowley. And on the Republican side, it will be 34 00:01:48,041 --> 00:01:50,177 U.S. Congressman Tom Tiffany. 35 00:01:50,244 --> 00:01:52,646 >> You are the reason our common sense message is 36 00:01:52,713 --> 00:01:56,717 being delivered in every corner of the state of 37 00:01:56,783 --> 00:02:01,755 Wisconsin. Yes. And you are the reason why we are going 38 00:02:01,822 --> 00:02:04,591 to turn the governorship red in November, aren't you? 39 00:02:04,658 --> 00:02:07,761 Yeah. Yes. >> From the moment he 40 00:02:07,828 --> 00:02:09,763 entered the race, Tom Tiffany, who hails from 41 00:02:09,830 --> 00:02:12,432 northern Wisconsin, has been the Republican 42 00:02:12,499 --> 00:02:14,468 frontrunner with only nominal opposition from a 43 00:02:14,535 --> 00:02:17,204 relatively unknown Republican in the primary. 44 00:02:17,271 --> 00:02:20,073 Tiffany pulled in more than 95% of the Republican vote 45 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:22,876 on Tuesday at his election night party. He thanked 46 00:02:22,943 --> 00:02:25,312 supporters and pinpointed his stance on issues he 47 00:02:25,379 --> 00:02:27,915 thinks will help him win in November. 48 00:02:27,981 --> 00:02:32,452 >> Taxes keep rising. An opportunity becomes harder 49 00:02:32,519 --> 00:02:36,990 to find because at the heart of this election is a 50 00:02:37,658 --> 00:02:40,127 fundamental difference in how we see Wisconsin's 51 00:02:40,194 --> 00:02:41,995 future. >> It was far more 52 00:02:42,062 --> 00:02:44,498 difficult for David Crowley to secure his win in the 53 00:02:44,565 --> 00:02:47,134 Democratic primary. His path to victory was not 54 00:02:47,201 --> 00:02:50,971 only a stunning upset but also an unexpected comeback. 55 00:02:51,038 --> 00:02:53,140 Crowley dropped out of the race in early July, but 56 00:02:53,207 --> 00:02:56,510 jumped back in after the campaign of Sara Rodriguez 57 00:02:56,577 --> 00:02:59,546 imploded and Mandela Barnes made a sudden exit. When he 58 00:02:59,613 --> 00:03:01,515 got back into the race, he did so with an endorsement 59 00:03:01,582 --> 00:03:03,550 from the state's top Democrat. 60 00:03:03,617 --> 00:03:05,786 >> That we kind of had a secret weapon, particularly 61 00:03:05,853 --> 00:03:08,889 when it came down to our great governor here, 62 00:03:08,956 --> 00:03:11,024 >> In every poll, Crowley was trailing Democratic 63 00:03:11,091 --> 00:03:13,460 Socialists and state Representative Francesca 64 00:03:13,527 --> 00:03:16,196 Hong by double digits. But as Hong tried to weather 65 00:03:16,263 --> 00:03:18,799 negative press in the final days of the election, it 66 00:03:18,866 --> 00:03:20,734 seemed more possible that Crowley could be a true 67 00:03:20,801 --> 00:03:23,403 contender. As election results rolled in late 68 00:03:23,470 --> 00:03:26,073 Tuesday night and Wednesday morning, Crowley gradually 69 00:03:26,139 --> 00:03:29,943 took the lead and won just barely. In all, Crowley 70 00:03:30,010 --> 00:03:33,647 earned 39.8% of the Democratic vote, beating 71 00:03:33,714 --> 00:03:36,083 Hong by half of a percentage point. At a 72 00:03:36,149 --> 00:03:38,118 press conference, Crowley thanked his supporters and 73 00:03:38,185 --> 00:03:40,487 spoke about what sets him apart from his new 74 00:03:40,554 --> 00:03:43,223 Republican opponent. >> But we all want safe 75 00:03:43,290 --> 00:03:46,026 communities, strong schools, affordable health care, 76 00:03:46,093 --> 00:03:49,162 good paying jobs and a brighter future for all of 77 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:53,934 our children. And every one of us has something much 78 00:03:54,001 --> 00:03:58,372 bigger to unite around. And that is keeping Maga 79 00:03:58,438 --> 00:04:01,542 extremism from bringing the chaos we see in Washington 80 00:04:01,608 --> 00:04:03,610 into our neighborhoods right here in the state of 81 00:04:03,677 --> 00:04:05,546 Wisconsin. >> Both candidates now turn 82 00:04:05,612 --> 00:04:08,081 their attention toward attracting the undecided 83 00:04:08,148 --> 00:04:10,017 voter. >> Whatever your political 84 00:04:10,083 --> 00:04:14,555 label, Republican, independent, politically 85 00:04:15,222 --> 00:04:18,525 homeless, or a Democrat, there's a place for you in 86 00:04:18,592 --> 00:04:22,062 the common sense movement. >> We deserve better than 87 00:04:22,129 --> 00:04:25,232 politicians who who divide us for their own political 88 00:04:25,299 --> 00:04:28,535 gain. We deserve leaders who wake up every single 89 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:31,905 morning asking one simple question how can I make 90 00:04:31,972 --> 00:04:34,508 life better for the people we serve? 91 00:04:34,575 --> 00:04:36,677 >> Now, with the table finally set for the 92 00:04:36,743 --> 00:04:39,012 November 3rd general election, Crowley and 93 00:04:39,079 --> 00:04:41,481 Tiffany have less than 90 days to make their case and 94 00:04:41,548 --> 00:04:43,884 prove to voters why they should serve as governor 95 00:04:43,951 --> 00:04:45,886 the next four years. Reporting from Middleton. 96 00:04:45,953 --> 00:04:49,189 I'm Steven Potter for Here and Now. 97 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:52,626 >> This week's Inside Wisconsin Politics dug 98 00:04:52,693 --> 00:04:55,128 further into the governor's primary, including the 99 00:04:55,195 --> 00:04:57,130 heightened national attention on Francesca Hong 100 00:04:57,197 --> 00:04:59,233 and the democratic socialist movement. 101 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:01,635 >> I know a lot of political observers 102 00:05:01,702 --> 00:05:05,672 nationally were looking to Wisconsin. As for a lesson 103 00:05:05,739 --> 00:05:09,109 in terms of whether democratic socialism that 104 00:05:09,176 --> 00:05:13,146 has played well in other states can play in a 105 00:05:13,213 --> 00:05:16,316 Midwest swing state. What lesson can they take away 106 00:05:16,383 --> 00:05:19,987 from our race? >> The obvious takeaway is 107 00:05:20,053 --> 00:05:23,857 it didn't. It didn't work this time. But all the 108 00:05:23,924 --> 00:05:27,928 caveats being the coordinated effort by 109 00:05:27,995 --> 00:05:30,364 establishment Democrats, moderate Democrats to make 110 00:05:30,430 --> 00:05:33,300 it make sure that it doesn't happen. So I would 111 00:05:33,367 --> 00:05:36,670 say at face value, yeah, I guess it didn't work out. 112 00:05:36,737 --> 00:05:41,542 And it came pretty close in the effort to stop the far 113 00:05:41,608 --> 00:05:44,511 left progressive candidate in the Senate race in 114 00:05:44,578 --> 00:05:47,681 Michigan. The closeness of that, plus this, maybe it 115 00:05:47,748 --> 00:05:51,351 changed the conversation. I've seen some pundits 116 00:05:51,418 --> 00:05:54,488 online talking about well, hangs campaign collapsed at 117 00:05:54,555 --> 00:05:57,057 the very final moments because of the way she 118 00:05:57,124 --> 00:05:59,293 handled those media interviews at the national 119 00:05:59,359 --> 00:06:02,262 level. all the polling said she 120 00:06:02,663 --> 00:06:04,765 had along the way. The difference is, the people 121 00:06:04,831 --> 00:06:07,434 that hadn't made up their minds chose elsewhere. I 122 00:06:07,501 --> 00:06:09,736 think those were about electability concerns. I 123 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:12,272 think there are legitimate questions about how she 124 00:06:12,339 --> 00:06:14,374 answered those questions when the national spotlight 125 00:06:14,441 --> 00:06:17,711 was on her, and whether the people in Wisconsin that 126 00:06:17,778 --> 00:06:19,479 had been paying attention were starting to think more 127 00:06:19,546 --> 00:06:23,317 about electability than about policy. But I don't 128 00:06:23,383 --> 00:06:25,419 know if collapse is the right word when she's still 129 00:06:25,485 --> 00:06:28,255 got 40% of the vote or thereabouts. And that's a 130 00:06:28,322 --> 00:06:30,057 really strong showing from any candidate, especially 131 00:06:30,123 --> 00:06:32,693 someone from her background who doesn't have a long 132 00:06:32,759 --> 00:06:36,230 track record of politics in Wisconsin and hasn't spent 133 00:06:36,296 --> 00:06:38,232 a long time developing those relations around the 134 00:06:38,298 --> 00:06:40,267 state. So she had a very impressive showing from 135 00:06:40,334 --> 00:06:43,904 that context. We talked on this podcast about 136 00:06:43,971 --> 00:06:46,106 Francesca Hong Thanksgiving tweets and some of the 137 00:06:46,173 --> 00:06:48,876 things that were coming up out of her past. Give me 138 00:06:48,942 --> 00:06:51,078 your impression of Crowley's ascent with 139 00:06:51,144 --> 00:06:53,680 everyone rallying behind him, including the money 140 00:06:53,747 --> 00:06:56,984 and then the wave Francesca Hong handled the amount of 141 00:06:57,050 --> 00:06:58,585 national attention she was getting. 142 00:06:58,652 --> 00:07:00,854 >> Well, I mean, the national window for our 143 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:04,358 race was just so brief. There were. National media 144 00:07:04,424 --> 00:07:06,593 was paying attention to Michigan before us, and 145 00:07:06,660 --> 00:07:09,863 then all of a sudden we were the next big thing. I 146 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:12,699 think it's fair to argue about whether or not people 147 00:07:12,766 --> 00:07:16,737 should focus on a tweet from 2020, but they did. I 148 00:07:16,803 --> 00:07:19,139 was visiting my dad the weekend before the election. 149 00:07:19,206 --> 00:07:21,608 He lives in Illinois. He watches all the Sunday 150 00:07:21,675 --> 00:07:25,279 shows religiously, and every one of them talked 151 00:07:25,345 --> 00:07:27,881 about that Thanksgiving tweet. My dad doesn't know 152 00:07:27,948 --> 00:07:29,950 who Francesca Hong is or David Crowley or much about 153 00:07:30,017 --> 00:07:32,786 the governor's race in Wisconsin, but he got an 154 00:07:32,853 --> 00:07:35,556 earful about that tweet that weekend. And if he'd 155 00:07:35,622 --> 00:07:37,824 been watching those shows in Wisconsin, he would have 156 00:07:37,891 --> 00:07:41,428 been seeing ads in between saying to vote for David 157 00:07:41,495 --> 00:07:44,031 Crowley. So that stuff matters and the timing 158 00:07:44,097 --> 00:07:47,668 matters. But it's how elections are won and lost. 159 00:07:47,734 --> 00:07:51,238 And so in a race that was won in this case by David 160 00:07:51,305 --> 00:07:55,309 Crowley by 4000 votes, a little less stuff like that 161 00:07:55,375 --> 00:07:59,112 can matter. >> In other closely watched 162 00:07:59,179 --> 00:08:01,682 races. Michael Alfonso won the Republican primary in 163 00:08:01,748 --> 00:08:04,117 the seventh Congressional District in northern 164 00:08:04,184 --> 00:08:06,954 Wisconsin. He's the Trump endorsed son in law of 165 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:09,256 Transportation Secretary Shawn Duffy. The seventh 166 00:08:09,323 --> 00:08:12,059 has a strong Republican lean, and if elected, the 167 00:08:12,125 --> 00:08:14,528 26 year old Alfonso will become the youngest member 168 00:08:14,595 --> 00:08:17,431 of Congress. He faces former state legislator 169 00:08:17,497 --> 00:08:19,833 Fred Clark, who won the Democratic primary in the 170 00:08:19,900 --> 00:08:21,802 third Congressional District in western 171 00:08:21,869 --> 00:08:24,104 Wisconsin. Rebecca Cooke won the Democratic primary 172 00:08:24,171 --> 00:08:27,074 with more than 60% of the vote, setting up a rematch 173 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:29,710 with Republican Congressman Derrick Van Orden. Plenty 174 00:08:29,776 --> 00:08:32,179 to talk about with our political panelists, 175 00:08:32,246 --> 00:08:34,381 Republican Bill McCoshen and Democrat Scot Ross. 176 00:08:34,448 --> 00:08:37,618 Thanks to both of you for being here. 177 00:08:37,684 --> 00:08:40,354 >> First, we have to talk about Crowley's win on 178 00:08:40,420 --> 00:08:42,523 Tuesday. Scott, how improbable was it to see a 179 00:08:42,589 --> 00:08:45,092 candidate drop out and then come back in less than a 180 00:08:45,158 --> 00:08:47,761 month and win the nomination? 181 00:08:47,828 --> 00:08:50,330 haven't seen before. But, you know, David Crowley has 182 00:08:50,397 --> 00:08:52,533 a long record of of delivering for the people 183 00:08:52,599 --> 00:08:54,601 of Wisconsin as the county executive of the largest 184 00:08:54,668 --> 00:08:56,503 county. He's cut property taxes. He's invested in 185 00:08:56,570 --> 00:08:58,405 small businesses, he's invested in community 186 00:08:58,472 --> 00:09:00,741 health, and he's invested in the things that really 187 00:09:00,807 --> 00:09:03,844 drive the economy and move things forward. So he's a 188 00:09:03,911 --> 00:09:06,446 formidable candidate against a very flawed 189 00:09:06,513 --> 00:09:08,448 candidate in Tom Tiffany, who has a ten year record 190 00:09:08,515 --> 00:09:11,852 in the state legislature of making it harder for 191 00:09:11,919 --> 00:09:15,088 Wisconsinites. And he decided to go after to to 192 00:09:15,155 --> 00:09:17,391 Congress on the next thing. And he spent five years 193 00:09:17,457 --> 00:09:19,393 making it harder for everybody else. 194 00:09:19,459 --> 00:09:21,628 >> So, Bill, Tom, Tiffany, Republicans seemed very 195 00:09:21,695 --> 00:09:23,897 eager to face Francesca Hong. Will it be a shift 196 00:09:23,964 --> 00:09:26,633 for them to pivot to Crowley? 197 00:09:27,401 --> 00:09:29,369 there's any question about that. But to your original 198 00:09:29,436 --> 00:09:31,205 question, I think it's unprecedented what happened 199 00:09:31,271 --> 00:09:33,340 on Tuesday night. I mean, we've never seen a 200 00:09:33,407 --> 00:09:36,310 candidate get out of the race and then get back into 201 00:09:36,376 --> 00:09:38,378 the race, get the sitting governor's endorsement. The 202 00:09:38,445 --> 00:09:40,214 sitting governor travels around the state with him 203 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,382 and literally brings him across the finish line. 204 00:09:42,449 --> 00:09:44,518 It's for your poker players and poker enthusiasts that 205 00:09:44,585 --> 00:09:47,120 are watching this show. This is like a royal flush. 206 00:09:47,187 --> 00:09:49,256 For that to happen, every star had to line up 207 00:09:49,323 --> 00:09:51,325 perfectly. And I give Governor Evers credit. I 208 00:09:51,391 --> 00:09:54,261 mean, he leaned in to David Crowley and and did 209 00:09:54,328 --> 00:09:57,331 everything he could. He put his legacy on the line. And 210 00:09:57,397 --> 00:10:01,201 it worked. That, coupled with $4 million of ads at 211 00:10:01,268 --> 00:10:04,471 the end, that trade unions were very much involved in, 212 00:10:04,538 --> 00:10:07,007 they get credit for that as well. And there was some 213 00:10:07,074 --> 00:10:09,443 finally, some contrast in the race. David Crowley ran 214 00:10:09,510 --> 00:10:12,346 some contrast, and it was on the biggest flaw that 215 00:10:12,412 --> 00:10:14,314 Francesca Hong made the entire campaign, which was 216 00:10:14,381 --> 00:10:17,684 the issue of Thanksgiving. She said she had old tweets 217 00:10:17,751 --> 00:10:19,953 that said cancels Thanksgiving. She went on 218 00:10:20,020 --> 00:10:23,891 both Fox News and CNN and and had some unfortunate 219 00:10:23,957 --> 00:10:26,026 comments that lasted a whole week nationally. It 220 00:10:26,093 --> 00:10:28,695 was a bad it was the worst unforced error I've ever 221 00:10:28,762 --> 00:10:31,498 seen in statewide politics that played into this as 222 00:10:31,565 --> 00:10:34,935 well. But it was it was an unbelievable comeback for 223 00:10:35,002 --> 00:10:36,937 David Crowley. >> Would you ever thought 224 00:10:37,004 --> 00:10:39,039 Thanksgiving was going to be the deciding issue? 225 00:10:39,106 --> 00:10:41,775 >> Well, I always joke that like, you know, Donald 226 00:10:41,842 --> 00:10:44,878 Trump hates Thanksgiving has to spend more time with 227 00:10:44,945 --> 00:10:47,814 Donald RFK, Jr. And, and Eric, I don't know if he 228 00:10:47,881 --> 00:10:50,083 spends any time with the second one from the second 229 00:10:50,150 --> 00:10:52,886 marriage or the, you know, anchor baby from the third. 230 00:10:52,953 --> 00:10:54,955 But that's, you know, I mean, again, this race now 231 00:10:55,022 --> 00:10:57,925 goes goes on to Donald Trump. This is about Donald 232 00:10:57,991 --> 00:10:59,860 Trump and Tom, Tiffany, Tom, Tiffany and Donald Trump 233 00:10:59,927 --> 00:11:02,196 lie about everything. He has a long record of 234 00:11:02,262 --> 00:11:04,865 failing Wisconsin, whether it's cutting $300 billion 235 00:11:04,932 --> 00:11:08,435 from rural health care, whether it's a nationwide 236 00:11:08,502 --> 00:11:10,804 abortion ban, which he supports. When he was in 237 00:11:10,871 --> 00:11:14,141 the state legislature, he cut public education by the 238 00:11:14,208 --> 00:11:17,144 largest in history. This case now will be about 239 00:11:17,211 --> 00:11:21,148 Donald Trump, who's who's you know, rating is in the 240 00:11:21,215 --> 00:11:23,584 toilet. And the fact that Tom Tiffany votes with him 241 00:11:23,650 --> 00:11:27,621 not 80% of the time, not 90% of the time, 100% of 242 00:11:27,688 --> 00:11:30,858 the time. My God, if, you know, we usually see 243 00:11:30,924 --> 00:11:33,660 candidates out there on busses, if Donald Trump 244 00:11:33,727 --> 00:11:36,096 says so, Tom, Tiffany is going to be riding around 245 00:11:36,163 --> 00:11:38,632 in a, you know, in one of those catering carts. 246 00:11:38,699 --> 00:11:40,934 >> Well, Donald, Tom Tiffany was asked, would 247 00:11:41,001 --> 00:11:43,403 you like to see Donald Trump in Wisconsin? And he 248 00:11:43,470 --> 00:11:46,740 hedged. He said, oh, he's very busy. 249 00:11:46,807 --> 00:11:49,042 very clear about this. No one in history has gotten 250 00:11:49,109 --> 00:11:51,812 more votes in the state of Wisconsin than Donald Trump. 251 00:11:51,879 --> 00:11:54,047 If Donald Trump can turn out that 1.7 million voters 252 00:11:54,114 --> 00:11:56,717 for Tom, Tiffany, Tom Tiffany will easily be the 253 00:11:56,783 --> 00:11:59,319 next governor of the state of Wisconsin. So, yes, 254 00:11:59,386 --> 00:12:02,122 there is a role for Donald Trump in this election. And 255 00:12:02,189 --> 00:12:05,792 whether that's town hall meetings like he did for 256 00:12:05,859 --> 00:12:09,263 Michael Alfonso, or it's mail or it's phone banks or 257 00:12:09,329 --> 00:12:11,598 whatever it may be, and maybe it's public 258 00:12:11,665 --> 00:12:13,867 appearances. We'll see. But there's absolutely a role 259 00:12:13,934 --> 00:12:16,303 for Donald Trump. >> The rap on Tom Tiffany a 260 00:12:16,370 --> 00:12:19,206 year ago, when he was first being floated as a 261 00:12:19,273 --> 00:12:21,441 candidate for governor, was can you raise any money? 262 00:12:21,508 --> 00:12:23,477 Well, he's had billionaires that have transferred money 263 00:12:23,544 --> 00:12:26,213 through the party to him. He's funded a lot of ads. 264 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,282 He's already on the air right now. Will he have 265 00:12:28,348 --> 00:12:32,152 enough or do you think maybe the billionaire 266 00:12:32,219 --> 00:12:34,254 they don't view this as as winnable a race with it? 267 00:12:34,321 --> 00:12:37,124 Crowley versus Hong. >> Oh, I think he's going 268 00:12:37,191 --> 00:12:39,293 to raise more money than any candidate in history. 269 00:12:39,359 --> 00:12:41,128 And that includes the self-funders that we've had 270 00:12:41,195 --> 00:12:43,430 in the last couple of cycles on the Republican 271 00:12:43,497 --> 00:12:46,099 side. I don't think money's going to be an issue for 272 00:12:46,166 --> 00:12:48,268 Tom Tiffany. I think they're going to do even 273 00:12:48,335 --> 00:12:51,205 more on the low dollar side that's out there. It's 274 00:12:51,271 --> 00:12:53,173 called low hanging fruit in politics. They can easily 275 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,175 go get that. But Tom Tiffany will not have a 276 00:12:55,242 --> 00:12:57,344 resource issue. >> Well, Democrats have 277 00:12:57,411 --> 00:12:59,146 enough money. Ben Wikler is not there at the Democratic 278 00:12:59,213 --> 00:13:02,482 Party to bring in all that money. 279 00:13:02,549 --> 00:13:05,352 >> Yeah, I think he'll be. I think he'll be helping 280 00:13:05,419 --> 00:13:07,454 out, you know? Yeah. The Democratic strategy is to 281 00:13:07,521 --> 00:13:10,324 raise a lot of money, right? I mean, they've done a very 282 00:13:10,390 --> 00:13:12,626 good job using things like the loopholes created by 283 00:13:12,693 --> 00:13:14,695 Robin Vos. the grift. 284 00:13:16,563 --> 00:13:19,066 instance of being hoisted on your own petard. And 285 00:13:19,132 --> 00:13:21,168 they have $5 million left to spend, of course, 286 00:13:21,235 --> 00:13:23,036 because the Republicans, what they wanted to 287 00:13:23,103 --> 00:13:25,339 accomplish was that Fran Hong not be the next 288 00:13:25,405 --> 00:13:27,407 governor of the great state of Wisconsin and with their 289 00:13:27,474 --> 00:13:29,610 $5 billion of spending, have achieved their goal. 290 00:13:29,676 --> 00:13:32,179 So I'm sure they're popping champagne bottles over that 291 00:13:32,246 --> 00:13:35,182 one. It's you know, this is going to be a wide open 292 00:13:35,249 --> 00:13:37,284 race. Clearly, as you pointed out, Tom Tiffany 293 00:13:37,351 --> 00:13:41,255 has raised $10 million in of his money in 2026 from 294 00:13:41,321 --> 00:13:44,458 three billionaires. You know, the two lines and and 295 00:13:44,525 --> 00:13:46,627 Diane Hendricks. And on the day he got his last 296 00:13:46,693 --> 00:13:49,396 transfer, he promised on the radio he was not going 297 00:13:49,463 --> 00:13:51,164 to raise taxes on billionaires. So that was 298 00:13:51,231 --> 00:13:53,333 that was a nice timing for that. 299 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,435 >> This is a loophole that Democrats have used 300 00:13:55,502 --> 00:13:58,005 successfully under Ben Wikler for ten straight 301 00:13:58,071 --> 00:14:00,807 years. Republicans are finally figured it out. 302 00:14:00,874 --> 00:14:02,776 Yeah, we're leveling the playing field. 303 00:14:02,843 --> 00:14:05,779 >> The irony of this is it was less than a year ago 304 00:14:05,846 --> 00:14:08,215 that Tom Tiffany was calling this the 305 00:14:08,282 --> 00:14:10,284 Democrats abused, even though he was part of the 306 00:14:10,350 --> 00:14:12,953 process of creating it. But now he's taking advantage. 307 00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:15,189 >> Of it. Well, why wouldn't you? It's a legal 308 00:14:15,255 --> 00:14:17,357 mechanism for raising money in the state of Wisconsin, 309 00:14:17,424 --> 00:14:19,993 and Republicans have failed to use it in the past. 310 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:22,129 Tiffany is not going to make that mistake. 311 00:14:22,196 --> 00:14:25,098 >> He can spend all the money he wants, but he 312 00:14:25,165 --> 00:14:27,234 can't erase his record. He did scrub his website after 313 00:14:27,301 --> 00:14:29,937 right before he got in saying, like, you know, all 314 00:14:30,003 --> 00:14:32,372 the really radically again, yesterday he was 315 00:14:32,439 --> 00:14:34,975 photographed with his lit in his back pocket, which 316 00:14:35,042 --> 00:14:37,010 says Maga extremist Tom Tiffany. So, you know, 317 00:14:37,077 --> 00:14:39,213 we'll have to see how he explains that one away. 318 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:41,348 >> Gubernatorial races are all about the future. What 319 00:14:41,415 --> 00:14:45,085 are you going to do for me? What's in it for me as a 320 00:14:45,152 --> 00:14:47,988 voter if I vote for you? Scot Ross or Brill McCoshen, 321 00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:50,224 or in this case, Tom Tiffany or David Crowley, 322 00:14:50,290 --> 00:14:52,159 Tom Tiffany is already out with positive ads talking 323 00:14:52,226 --> 00:14:55,162 about his agenda for the future of the state of 324 00:14:55,229 --> 00:14:57,130 Wisconsin. And I think it's very, very positive. You're 325 00:14:57,197 --> 00:14:59,166 also going to see sharp contrast between him and 326 00:14:59,233 --> 00:15:02,002 David Crowley, which you did not see until the very 327 00:15:02,069 --> 00:15:04,137 end of the Democratic primary. And I think that 328 00:15:04,204 --> 00:15:06,340 was a mistake for all the other candidates who ran 329 00:15:06,406 --> 00:15:08,075 against Francesca Hong. David Crowley figured it 330 00:15:08,141 --> 00:15:11,011 out at the right time, and it worked. 331 00:15:11,078 --> 00:15:12,646 >> Switching to congressional races, we've 332 00:15:12,713 --> 00:15:15,148 got a rematch in the third with incumbent Republican 333 00:15:15,215 --> 00:15:17,985 Derrick Van Orden against a Rebecca Cooke Scott, does 334 00:15:18,051 --> 00:15:20,087 this race follow the national environment or the 335 00:15:20,153 --> 00:15:22,789 top of the ticket, or does it stand out on its own, 336 00:15:22,856 --> 00:15:25,092 particularly for Democrats third? 337 00:15:25,158 --> 00:15:27,227 >> Well, I would say that because Tom Tiffany, you 338 00:15:27,294 --> 00:15:29,263 know, supports the $2 billion slush fund for 339 00:15:29,329 --> 00:15:32,199 terrorist insurrectionists, that he is the biggest 340 00:15:32,266 --> 00:15:35,135 January 6th terrorist insurrectionist in 341 00:15:35,202 --> 00:15:37,738 have a January 6th terrorist insurrectionist 342 00:15:37,804 --> 00:15:40,107 as the candidate and current congressperson from 343 00:15:40,174 --> 00:15:42,142 the third Congressional District, Derrick Van Orton. 344 00:15:42,209 --> 00:15:45,012 He is unhinged. You know, people criticize me 345 00:15:45,078 --> 00:15:47,748 sometimes about my my speaking online, but this 346 00:15:47,814 --> 00:15:51,118 guy is totally unhinged. And Rebecca Cooke brings a 347 00:15:51,185 --> 00:15:53,620 real experience of what people in the state, what 348 00:15:53,687 --> 00:15:55,255 people in the Third Congressional District have 349 00:15:55,322 --> 00:15:57,624 to deal with affordability, gas prices, you know, 350 00:15:57,691 --> 00:16:00,093 working two jobs. And I think that translates much 351 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,629 better for what this what the public's going to want 352 00:16:02,696 --> 00:16:05,132 in this election, especially given the record 353 00:16:05,199 --> 00:16:08,335 that Trump has in the state, whether it's with Tom 354 00:16:08,402 --> 00:16:10,370 Tiffany or Derrick Van Orden of really hurting 355 00:16:10,437 --> 00:16:12,406 people in Wisconsin. >> Even in midterms, which 356 00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:14,908 are historically bad for the party in power. And in 357 00:16:14,975 --> 00:16:18,779 this case, it's Republicans. 87% of incumbent 358 00:16:18,846 --> 00:16:21,181 congresspeople get reelected. So the advantage 359 00:16:21,248 --> 00:16:23,817 is going to be to Derrick Van Orden. Rebecca Cooke 360 00:16:23,884 --> 00:16:27,454 has already lost that seat twice. I think she's going 361 00:16:27,521 --> 00:16:30,123 to lose the rematch. It's going to be a hat trick of 362 00:16:30,190 --> 00:16:33,126 losses for her, but it will be a competitive race right 363 00:16:33,193 --> 00:16:35,762 down to the end. And that's one where we may see Donald 364 00:16:35,829 --> 00:16:38,966 Trump in La Crosse or Eau Claire. 365 00:16:39,032 --> 00:16:40,968 need to adjust his behavior? Already on Twitter this 366 00:16:41,034 --> 00:16:42,836 week he was saying Democrats stole the primary 367 00:16:42,903 --> 00:16:45,839 election or is he just be who he is? 368 00:16:45,906 --> 00:16:48,809 >> I think he is who he is. I wouldn't have said that. 369 00:16:48,876 --> 00:16:50,878 I don't think that's accurate. I don't think we 370 00:16:50,944 --> 00:16:53,080 should care how your primary played out. At the 371 00:16:53,146 --> 00:16:55,849 end of the day, Francesca Hong didn't care. She had 372 00:16:55,916 --> 00:16:58,785 the ability to ask for a recount. She chose not to 373 00:16:58,852 --> 00:17:00,921 spoke volumes about her character, I think. So we 374 00:17:00,988 --> 00:17:03,156 should focus on the future. That's what voters want us 375 00:17:03,223 --> 00:17:06,059 to talk about, is what's what are you going to do to 376 00:17:06,126 --> 00:17:08,862 help us balance our checkbook every month here? 377 00:17:08,929 --> 00:17:11,064 >> So in the seventh congressional, Michael 378 00:17:11,131 --> 00:17:13,901 Alfonso used his father in law's money and the Trump 379 00:17:13,967 --> 00:17:16,336 endorsement to cruise to the nomination. Ordinarily, 380 00:17:16,403 --> 00:17:19,139 the seventh isn't in play. Could it be with someone of 381 00:17:19,206 --> 00:17:21,808 his particular reputation and this being an open seat. 382 00:17:21,875 --> 00:17:25,145 >> If ever the source was there to be sampled by by 383 00:17:25,212 --> 00:17:27,548 the by the Democratic voters, it might be there 384 00:17:27,614 --> 00:17:29,716 because this is a guy who has absolutely no 385 00:17:29,783 --> 00:17:31,618 experience. He's a carpetbagger. You know, he 386 00:17:31,685 --> 00:17:34,021 was he got there by, you know, essentially financed 387 00:17:34,087 --> 00:17:36,957 by Shawn Duffy's corruption. So, yes, I think that if if 388 00:17:37,024 --> 00:17:39,159 Fred Clark can get the resources to be able to 389 00:17:39,226 --> 00:17:42,029 articulate that, then I say it's entirely possible 390 00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:44,364 whether or not he'll be able to get it, it's going 391 00:17:44,431 --> 00:17:48,135 to be tough because because, again, Republican failure 392 00:17:48,202 --> 00:17:50,704 Democrats are all over the place in terms of being 393 00:17:50,771 --> 00:17:53,373 able to spend in races they might not otherwise have 394 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,709 been able to get. And very clearly, Democrats will 395 00:17:55,776 --> 00:17:57,611 have the control of the Congress come after this 396 00:17:57,678 --> 00:17:59,246 election. >> This is Tom Tiffany's 397 00:17:59,313 --> 00:18:02,616 home place, and there's a lot of legacy. 398 00:18:02,683 --> 00:18:04,785 >> Before that. Yeah. >> There's legacy. Listen, 399 00:18:04,852 --> 00:18:06,920 Michael Alfonso and his family moved to land O 400 00:18:06,987 --> 00:18:09,590 lakes when he was three years old. I know this 401 00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:11,925 because I coached him in hockey when he was ten 402 00:18:11,992 --> 00:18:14,862 years old for a team out of Managua. He then they moved 403 00:18:14,928 --> 00:18:17,564 to Wausau when he was in middle school, which is 404 00:18:17,631 --> 00:18:19,700 where he met Shawn Duffy's daughter. He's a 405 00:18:19,766 --> 00:18:23,070 wisconsinite through and of having someone Jung on 406 00:18:23,136 --> 00:18:26,340 our side, finally running for a major office, and I 407 00:18:26,406 --> 00:18:29,676 think he's going to do well. He surprised me by how much 408 00:18:29,743 --> 00:18:32,513 he won a highly competitive primary by. 409 00:18:32,579 --> 00:18:34,481 >> That was an impressive win considering the amount 410 00:18:34,548 --> 00:18:36,984 of money that was spent in that district. All right, 411 00:18:37,050 --> 00:18:39,152 that is all the time we have. Bill McCoshen Scot 412 00:18:39,219 --> 00:18:41,788 Ross. Thanks again. >> Thanks. Nice to be here. 413 00:18:41,855 --> 00:18:44,224 >> Issues continue to crop up in Milwaukee's late 414 00:18:44,291 --> 00:18:47,227 night ballot counting process, this time further 415 00:18:47,294 --> 00:18:49,696 delaying the results of the election for a national 416 00:18:49,763 --> 00:18:52,165 audience. How Milwaukee counts its ballots has been 417 00:18:52,232 --> 00:18:55,135 the subject of scrutiny for years. As the largest 418 00:18:55,202 --> 00:18:57,404 county in the state, it has the most absentee ballots 419 00:18:57,471 --> 00:19:00,541 to process before those totals are reported, often 420 00:19:00,607 --> 00:19:02,976 leading to what people call a late night ballot dump 421 00:19:03,043 --> 00:19:05,979 and adding fuel to election conspiracy fires. In a 422 00:19:06,046 --> 00:19:08,048 press release, the Milwaukee Election 423 00:19:08,115 --> 00:19:10,551 Commission reiterated that what caused the delay had 424 00:19:10,617 --> 00:19:14,354 no impact on the results. Alexander Shur, a vote 425 00:19:14,421 --> 00:19:16,623 reporter with Votebeat, watched the scene unfold 426 00:19:16,690 --> 00:19:19,660 and he joins us now. Thanks for your time today. 427 00:19:19,726 --> 00:19:21,495 >> My pleasure. Thanks for having me. 428 00:19:21,562 --> 00:19:23,864 >> So the issue occurred at the central count, but this 429 00:19:23,931 --> 00:19:26,366 wasn't with how they count the ballots. This was at 430 00:19:26,433 --> 00:19:28,569 the end of the night getting the results. So 431 00:19:28,635 --> 00:19:31,171 kind of walk us through what what went wrong and 432 00:19:31,238 --> 00:19:33,707 what you were seeing as it happened. 433 00:19:33,774 --> 00:19:36,510 >> Yeah. So I'd say broadly, what happened on Tuesday 434 00:19:36,577 --> 00:19:41,148 was 15 hours of nearly flawless processing and 435 00:19:41,215 --> 00:19:43,417 counting in a way that actually was more efficient 436 00:19:43,483 --> 00:19:48,355 than past elections, being capped off by a really 437 00:19:48,422 --> 00:19:51,291 simple and regrettable error. So essentially, all 438 00:19:51,358 --> 00:19:54,494 these ballots are counted. I think Milwaukee counted 439 00:19:54,561 --> 00:19:57,898 about 28,000 by the end of the night. And then the 440 00:19:57,965 --> 00:20:00,434 last step before you send results to the counties, 441 00:20:00,501 --> 00:20:03,904 you need to extract those results from the tabulators 442 00:20:03,971 --> 00:20:06,874 that count all the ballots. So on Election Day, there 443 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:11,378 were nine tabulators. And typically an election 444 00:20:11,445 --> 00:20:15,215 official goes to each tabulator and they follow a 445 00:20:15,282 --> 00:20:17,484 checklist, or at least they had in the past in 446 00:20:17,551 --> 00:20:20,120 Milwaukee. And it takes about ten minutes per 447 00:20:20,187 --> 00:20:22,556 tabulator. It adds a lot of time at the end of the 448 00:20:22,623 --> 00:20:25,792 night, but it also ensures uniformity. And what we saw 449 00:20:25,859 --> 00:20:29,396 on Tuesday was took about ten minutes to download. 450 00:20:29,463 --> 00:20:32,833 Results from the first tabulator took maybe 5 or 6 451 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:35,869 minutes from the second, and then all of a sudden it 452 00:20:35,936 --> 00:20:39,072 was taking 2 to 3 minutes to download results from a 453 00:20:39,139 --> 00:20:41,141 tabulator. And it wasn't just one election official 454 00:20:41,208 --> 00:20:44,144 doing it, they were dividing up into teams. So 455 00:20:44,211 --> 00:20:48,081 one, from what I had gotten used to as somewhat of a 456 00:20:48,148 --> 00:20:52,085 slow, tedious process, it got really quick. And in 457 00:20:52,152 --> 00:20:55,022 hindsight, it just simply takes more than 2 or 3 458 00:20:55,088 --> 00:20:57,824 minutes to download results from a tabulator. The 459 00:20:57,891 --> 00:21:01,762 reason that it went from 10 minutes to 3 minutes was 460 00:21:01,828 --> 00:21:04,198 they were clicking the wrong button. They were not 461 00:21:04,264 --> 00:21:07,000 downloading election results from from five of 462 00:21:07,067 --> 00:21:10,637 the nine tabulators at the at the city absentee ballot 463 00:21:10,704 --> 00:21:13,040 processing center. >> So just to clarify, 464 00:21:13,106 --> 00:21:15,576 there's no evidence of malfeasance or tampering or 465 00:21:15,642 --> 00:21:18,412 fraud. But that didn't stop the conspiracy theorists 466 00:21:18,478 --> 00:21:21,715 from immediately jumping all over this on the social 467 00:21:21,782 --> 00:21:25,485 media. Right? >> That's exactly right. 468 00:21:25,552 --> 00:21:28,789 And I think they saw it, as, you know, a way for the 469 00:21:28,856 --> 00:21:33,126 city or the state to to rig the gubernatorial primary 470 00:21:33,193 --> 00:21:36,663 against Francesca Hong, no matter that Crowley was on 471 00:21:36,730 --> 00:21:41,101 top, you know, before this so-called ballot dump, no 472 00:21:41,168 --> 00:21:44,271 matter that their, you know, ballot images and audit 473 00:21:44,338 --> 00:21:46,807 logs and a paper trail tracking every single one 474 00:21:46,874 --> 00:21:50,110 of these ballots. You know, I've been saying, for 475 00:21:50,177 --> 00:21:52,913 better or worse, what happened was evidence that 476 00:21:52,980 --> 00:21:56,149 elections are run by humans and sometimes they make 477 00:21:56,216 --> 00:21:58,285 mistakes when you know they're on a lack of sleep, 478 00:21:58,352 --> 00:22:00,821 or there's not the checklist that should be 479 00:22:00,888 --> 00:22:03,290 guiding them in front of them. 480 00:22:03,357 --> 00:22:05,859 >> So many have been calling for a change in 481 00:22:05,926 --> 00:22:07,928 state law that would allow Milwaukee and other central 482 00:22:07,995 --> 00:22:10,497 count operations to start counting those absentee 483 00:22:10,564 --> 00:22:13,066 ballots and processing them on Monday before the 484 00:22:13,133 --> 00:22:15,402 election. So we're not waiting until late in the 485 00:22:15,469 --> 00:22:18,038 night. One of the champions of that has been a 486 00:22:18,105 --> 00:22:20,374 Republican who has pushed to try and get that bill 487 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,509 through. It got killed in the state Senate, 488 00:22:22,576 --> 00:22:24,545 unfortunately. But even he has concerns and wants to 489 00:22:24,611 --> 00:22:27,181 hear testimony. Right. So how will this unfold as 490 00:22:27,247 --> 00:22:31,485 people ask more questions? >> I mean, I think a really 491 00:22:31,552 --> 00:22:34,288 common rebuttal for past legislative efforts to pass 492 00:22:34,354 --> 00:22:37,591 this Monday processing bill, was this talking point 493 00:22:37,658 --> 00:22:40,794 about among Republican legislators that we can't 494 00:22:40,861 --> 00:22:43,330 trust Milwaukee with an extra day if they're only 495 00:22:43,397 --> 00:22:46,333 making errors on, you know, they're all they only have 496 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,802 one day and they're already making errors. Why should 497 00:22:48,869 --> 00:22:51,238 we let them do this on Monday? However, you see 498 00:22:51,305 --> 00:22:54,942 the logic of that talking point every time they make 499 00:22:55,008 --> 00:22:58,412 an error sort of undermines this mission to pass Monday 500 00:22:58,478 --> 00:23:01,148 count. So as you pointed out, you have Scott Krug, 501 00:23:01,215 --> 00:23:04,551 who's a very staunch supporter of this Monday 502 00:23:04,618 --> 00:23:07,421 processing bill. And every time he sees Milwaukee make 503 00:23:07,487 --> 00:23:11,191 a mistake like this past Tuesday, just he knows that 504 00:23:11,258 --> 00:23:15,028 is that makes his case significantly harder 505 00:23:15,095 --> 00:23:17,631 because now you have this state state legislators 506 00:23:17,698 --> 00:23:20,767 looking at the city as a flawed election 507 00:23:20,834 --> 00:23:23,270 jurisdiction. At the same time that the city is 508 00:23:23,337 --> 00:23:28,075 asking for more time to count and process ballots. 509 00:23:28,141 --> 00:23:31,044 >> Yeah, and just a few seconds left. But give me a 510 00:23:31,111 --> 00:23:33,180 sense of what it's going to look like in November, 511 00:23:33,247 --> 00:23:35,983 because I know this is the city of Milwaukee, but 512 00:23:36,049 --> 00:23:37,951 people are going to conflate David Crowley as 513 00:23:38,018 --> 00:23:41,522 the Milwaukee County ballot balloting totals 514 00:23:41,588 --> 00:23:44,024 coming in are going to have even more scrutiny in the 515 00:23:44,091 --> 00:23:46,860 fall, right? >> It's possible. I mean, 516 00:23:46,927 --> 00:23:49,730 every I think no matter what Milwaukee does, even 517 00:23:49,796 --> 00:23:52,065 if they run a flawless operation, they're going to 518 00:23:52,132 --> 00:23:55,602 be scrutinized. If they make a single mistake and 519 00:23:55,669 --> 00:23:58,572 they know this, it's going to just lead to an absolute 520 00:23:58,639 --> 00:24:00,974 blow up in conspiracy theories, especially if 521 00:24:01,041 --> 00:24:03,911 Crowley emerges as the candidate. So I think all 522 00:24:03,977 --> 00:24:06,313 of the pressure is on them to to run this flawlessly 523 00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:08,348 in November. >> All right. Alexander 524 00:24:08,415 --> 00:24:11,151 Shur with Votebeat. Thanks for your time today. 525 00:24:11,218 --> 00:24:14,655 >> Of course. Thanks for having me. 526 00:24:14,721 --> 00:24:17,991 >> The fatal shooting of 38 year old Corey Ruiz by a 527 00:24:18,058 --> 00:24:20,994 Madison police officer also garnered national attention 528 00:24:21,061 --> 00:24:22,996 this week. The Wisconsin Department of Justice 529 00:24:23,063 --> 00:24:26,667 released the name of the officer, Kiel 530 00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:28,702 Baitinger-Peterson, who has more than ten years of 531 00:24:28,769 --> 00:24:31,071 experience, was injured by Ruiz with a knife before 532 00:24:31,138 --> 00:24:34,474 the officer opened fire. The investigation is 533 00:24:34,541 --> 00:24:36,844 ongoing and there was no information on whether the 534 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:39,847 officer will be referred for charges. He remains on 535 00:24:39,913 --> 00:24:42,683 administrative leave. The funeral for Ruiz was held 536 00:24:42,749 --> 00:24:45,252 at the Fountain of Life Church today and was 537 00:24:45,319 --> 00:24:47,554 attended by his family. Civil rights attorney Ben 538 00:24:47,621 --> 00:24:51,258 Crump and the Reverend Al Sharpton. 539 00:24:51,325 --> 00:24:55,362 >> He touched a lot of people in and out of the 540 00:24:55,429 --> 00:25:00,501 streets of Madison, city of Madison, and every single 541 00:25:00,567 --> 00:25:05,005 one is affected by the loss of my son. I am angered at 542 00:25:05,072 --> 00:25:09,643 the people that took him from me. They had no right 543 00:25:10,377 --> 00:25:12,713 though. I have three beautiful grown children 544 00:25:12,779 --> 00:25:15,816 left to love and cherish. A piece of my heart has been 545 00:25:15,883 --> 00:25:20,120 torn from my chest. I love you, my first born boy. 546 00:25:20,187 --> 00:25:25,058 You're beautiful. You're handsome as you are now 547 00:25:25,125 --> 00:25:28,061 with the angels and not in pain. I leave you in the 548 00:25:28,128 --> 00:25:30,931 hands of God to watch over you. 549 00:25:31,398 --> 00:25:35,636 >> From the time I saw. I don't think that officer 550 00:25:35,702 --> 00:25:40,407 thought if they discharged the gun, that people would 551 00:25:40,474 --> 00:25:44,878 stand up. I don't think the officer thought that people 552 00:25:44,945 --> 00:25:48,582 like Crump would come and help the legal team. I 553 00:25:48,649 --> 00:25:51,752 don't think they thought people like me would come 554 00:25:51,818 --> 00:25:55,422 and do his funeral, but I want them to understand 555 00:25:55,489 --> 00:25:58,659 that we come in the name of someone that tell us, no 556 00:25:58,725 --> 00:26:02,229 matter who they are and what rank they are, we 557 00:26:02,296 --> 00:26:07,067 going to stop and stand up for justice for this young 558 00:26:07,134 --> 00:26:10,604 man? Corey Lewis because he could have been one of our 559 00:26:10,671 --> 00:26:13,674 children. >> For more on this and 560 00:26:14,508 --> 00:26:16,810 other issues facing Wisconsin, visit our 561 00:26:16,877 --> 00:26:19,680 website at PBS wisconsin.org and then 562 00:26:19,746 --> 00:26:21,982 click on the news tab. That is our program for tonight. 563 00:26:22,049 --> 00:26:25,352 I'm Zac Schultz. Have a great weekend. 564 00:26:25,419 --> 00:26:28,655 [MUSIC] >> Funding for Here and now 565 00:26:44,137 --> 00:26:46,573 is provided by the Focus Fund for Journalism and 566 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,109 friends of PBS Wisconsin.