reporter Zach Schultz, joined, as always, by our esteemed
guests, Bill McCoshen and Scot Ross Dorow's.
>> Get better every day, don't you think? Seriously, we should
stay another week. long. We've made it to Thursday.
All right, let's start with last night, Tim Walz. Coach Walz, as
the Democrats would like to see America look at him, had his big
speech on the stage. What was your first impression of coach
Walz went right into the end zone.
>> You know, whatever metaphor you want to use, he really
crushed it last night. He did exactly what he needed to do,
which was to introduce himself to America in a way that's
relatable and authentic. And every part of his speech was
exactly that, while also talking about some of the issues that
really, really matter in this election and why people you
know, are so concerned about the idea of having a second Donald
Trump term that would be even more extreme, even more
dangerous than this one. Kamala Harris Tim Walz will offer a
bright, hopeful future. That's what America wants. That's what
Wisconsin wants. >> What did you think of him?
>> I'm going to give you the good and the bad. I think start
with the good. Tim Walz spoke for 18 minutes. That was smart.
It's very rare in politics these days that candidates can stay on
message and stay disciplined and get their whole speech done. In
that kind of time, voters don't have as long of a attention span
as a lot of candidates think they do. So I think it was
really smart that he did that. He brought energy. There's no
question about that. And lastly, you know, there's no question
he's appealing to the base. So he fired up the base. So I think
in those respects he was he was outstanding. He met the mark.
That's that's what he was supposed to do. On the downside,
the intro still had him listed as command sergeant major when
he wasn't command sergeant major. And then he himself spoke
about IVF, which we discussed in spirited discussion yesterday.
and the difference between IVF and IUD is embryos and so the
IVF could be impacted by state abortion policy. IUI is not. So
I think he was misleading, at least in two respects. Again,
last night. >> So I'm glad you brought that
up. That was next on the list. I wanted to clarify for those who
caught our discussion yesterday, he has consistently said, since
he was introduced to the national stage, that he and his
wife used had fertility issues empathize with people who had
used IVF to have their children. They did use a process called
IUD intrauterine insertion, which is not the same. It does
not create embryos. It's not impacted, as you had said.
However, it is adjacent and it's technically considered the first
step towards IVF. It's cheaper and easier and less invasive.
And so a lot of couples try that first before they go that. So
Scott, I'm sure you're going to say in his in the line of
thinking he never he never said technically that they used it.
Yeah. He never clarified. >> He leaves that impression.
>> But again this is about control of women's bodies and
women's lives that we get under Donald Trump and Republican
leadership. And what we got from the US Supreme Court and why
Democrats have been winning races all over the place since
the Dobbs decision. Yes, they had for infertility issues. They
went in and, you know, did something about it. And like, I
don't know if you've had friends who have gone through IVF. I've
had friends who, you know, the shots that the women have to go
through are really onerous. Kim Walls went through the shots, so
he's even more really, he's even more related to women. You know,
again, this is about the control that we're going to have. We
know that the Donald Trump Blueprint 2025 project, 2025
wants one set of one set of couples men, women and children,
you know, and that's what and all this is about trying to
erase the idea that people who aren't same sex couples can, you
know, can reproduce. And I think he could have made and I think
that's exactly what this is has always been about control.
And people are going to reject it.
by being honest about IUI. He was on we do have accepted it.
>> If he would have said we use something very similar to IVF.
He's a coach. impacted by state abortion laws.
So yeah, I think that would have been smarter because it does get
to trust and credibility. That's where he's sort of straddling
the line. stand on trust and credibility.
>> Well, I mean, that's every voter is going to have to make
that decision on November 5th, which candidates they trust
more. >> The fact is that the
Republicans are claiming that Donald Trump won't push for a
national abortion ban. The project 2025 blueprint, which
was created with 57 of his aides. Exactly. Does that. And
they do it without votes. That's the thing they do it by.
>> I can fact check in real time CNN and by going in and, you
know, using the process outside the legislative process, which
is always like a CNN yesterday fact check this and said Donald
Trump did not have anything to do with project 2025, just most
of the people connected to Donald Trump matter. He didn't.
>> Yeah, he's not in there. Okay. All right.
>> One other thing I want to talk about with Tim Walls and
his family and I think we're all on the same page here has to do
with this son, Gus Walls. We saw reaction when he was on stage in
the crowd, and we saw some terrible statements being made
online last night from right wing people who were just trying
to go after Walls, including a talk show host from Wisconsin.
He deleted the tweet. But what that kids are back in fair play
when it comes to politicians? >> I think families should be
off grounds, full stop except or unless they break the law.
Right? That I think Hunter Biden's a separate case. He's
also an adult and he's an adult. Well, even adult kids, I think,
should be when mom or dad decides to run for political
office. Yeah, they're making a lot of sacrifices and putting
their family at risk. But that doesn't mean that they're fair
game for any attacks. I am totally against that.
>> Completely, if I may, you know, if we're going to talk
about Hunter Biden for a second, I think we can talk about the
fact that while she was in the white House, Ivanka Trump had 12
different patents from China. The fact that she and Jared
Kushner increased their wealth by over $300 million, and the
fact that, you know, Eric Trump stole money from a cancer
charity and Donald Trump Jr, well, he shows up on talk shows,
which isn't the worst thing in the world. But anyhow, we saw
him. It's not. But again, that was that was ghoulish. You know,
those examples are ghoulish. Now, the radio talk show host in
Milwaukee, I couldn't see that because he blocks me on Twitter.
But I'm going to take your word for it.
>> Moving on. You know, what I liked about it is the kid was
clearly excited. Yeah, my kids would have been excited had I
been standing up there, you know, and that was an emotional
time. I'm surprised Walls was able to get through that portion
of the speech. parent, would you want anything
other than that? No. Heck no. >> So another speech last night
was from former president Bill Clinton, one of the numbers that
he threw out a statistic that the Washington Post fact checked
and said it was true, as he said, since the end of the Cold
War. So since 1989, 50 million jobs created under Democratic
presidents, 1 million jobs under Republican presidents, first of
all, that's the first I've heard of it. And it's been fact
checked. Why is that not the Democrats main talking point?
Every election cycle I will say this.
where it's like, how many jobs under, you know, it's a graph of
that. Nobody's ever apparently not math majors in the
Democratic Party. Nobody added that there's a reason why that's
the case. It's because Democrats invest in people they recognize.
If you put money into the pockets of the middle class, the
middle class goes out and spends it and drives the American
economy. The fact that you can't have a strong economy without a
strong infrastructure, this to the idea that tax breaks for
rich people creates jobs, because it just simply doesn't.
And the proof is in what, you know, the big dog came out and
said last night, albeit a little bit more horse than he usually
is. Clinton's best line. I think
putting Bill Clinton on the stage was a mistake. This is all
about the vibes. This is about joy. This is a guy who spent
made 46 trips to Jeffrey Epstein's island. I don't think
that's the guy they want representing the Democratic
Party very few people in that room last night were even born
when Bill Clinton was the president. I think it was a
mistake, and I don't think he's clearly lost his fastball.
>> Since we're talking about Jeff Epstein, you brought him
up. Trump is actually flying to campaign events on his former
private plane that is owned by a conservative donor who has
handed it out, and there's a Trump logo on the side of the
plane. >> You're saying the Trump that
the plane he flies on is a former Epstein, not his main
plane, but he has been found using it as a side plane. Yeah,
I don't I don't know anything about that.
>> I'll bail you out on this. I wonder if he's going to fly that
plane to the January 6th Awards I just saw before we went on
air. Did he buy the plane? >> I mean, Jeffrey Epstein's
been dead for three years. >> No, it is a conservative
donor out of California that bought the plane through a
number of shell companies. And then they tracked it through the
tail number and the registration number. It now has a Trump logo
on the side. >> And I'm wrong. I mean, I see
picture after picture, I see picture after picture of Donald
Trump and Jeffrey Epstein hugging from many, many years.
You know, over, over the course of many, many years. So if it's
a liability for Bill Clinton, he ain't on the ballot. It sure is
a liability for Donald Trump. >> Moving on to tonight, we have
the big speech Thursday night speech. We got a preview
yesterday from the Harris campaign that her speech is
split into three segments sharing her story. The theme of
optimism versus "Project 2025". And then patriotism. So what are
you expecting to hear from her? I think we're going to hear a,
you know, a lot of what we've heard over the last couple of
days, a reinforcement of that, because it's all building
towards what she is, which is the best case for these things,
which is we're going to make sure that we protect
reproductive freedom. >> And in some cases, in 21
states, restore reproductive freemen for reproductive
freedom. We're going to have a strong economy that works for,
you know, it doesn't just you don't just get by, but you get
to thrive, especially if you're working hard. Something that's
been denied to a lot of people under Republican policies. And
then third, the fact that we're going to strengthen democracy.
And again, the idea that Donald Trump is going to an awards
ceremony for the January 6th terrorist insurrectionists, my
only question is, is Derrick Van Orton, our congressman, in
January 20th January six Terrorist and Insurrection going
to be the emcee or do the Pledge of Allegiance or whatever the
heck they want him to do? >> So there was a lot of talk
about freedom last night. Republicans and Democrats have a
very different definition of this. Democrats. A definition of
freedom is big government, right? Kamala Harris was the
deciding vote to create 87,000 new IRS agents. She set off the
inflation by being the 51st or 50th vote for the inflation
Reduction Act, and two massive spending budget bills. So if she
doesn't talk about the economy tonight, that's an advantage for
us for sure. She can talk about joy all she wants to, but at the
end of the day, people are going to look at whether they can pay
their rent or their mortgage. They can watch their grocery
bills. What are their gas bills? Those are the things they're
worried about. They're worried border. If she doesn't talk
about those two subjects tonight, I'd say it's going to
>> I mean, the fact is, is that there's going to be a
construction boom under if the Republicans are back in charge,
because every doctor's office is going to be have to be big
enough to have the six members of the Supreme Court, Donald
Trump, JD Vance, every Republican member of the
Congress, every Republican governor, and every Republican
legislature across this country. Because that's how big they need
it, because they want to be in your because they want to be in
the women's doctor's offices. So that's a pretty big government.
>> You've talked about 2025. It's not Trump. We've had that
discussion both in Milwaukee and here. But Democrats have had a
section on 2020 that project every single night. And it's
clear she's going to be talking about it. So whether Trump
himself was in the room when it was signed, he is deeply
connected to it. And Democrats are making that case. They must
see that this this is working. They're sticking to it.
>> Well, just think about what's in that plan. You know, a
nationwide abortion ban, end to IVF and end to neither of which
will happen, certain contraceptives. And Social
Security and Medicare and Medicaid. Nothing gutted unions
obliterated. You know, over and over again and again. The
January 6th, folks all pardoned and let you know or clemency,
whatever, whatever you want to say about that, you know, it is
a blueprint for disaster. It's a blueprint for fascism. It is
going to be rejected, by and large, by the American people.
And that's why we're going to have a blue wave in 2024.
>> So the other thing I'll take out of Bill Clinton's speech is
he he warned the people in the audience last night, both in the
distracted by phony issues. Project 2025 is a phony issue.
Trump has been asked about this many, many times. He said he
didn't have anything to do with it. That's not his agenda. His
agenda was rolled out at the RNC. That's what he's running
on. Democrats don't want to talk about the economy. They don't
want to talk about immigration. Those are the things that really
matter to voters. They want to talk about abortion. Fine.
Donald Trump isn't as far right as some in our party would like
him to be on that particular issue. So I don't think he's
going to be scary to suburban women.
>> You know, it just depends on the day of the week. It just
depends on the day of the week. As to how how extreme Donald
Trump is on abortion. You know, let's be very, very clear about
that, and abortion is about economics because it's whether
or not women can fully participate when they want to
participate in the American economy that the government
can't come and say, we're going to force you to have that child
and you can't work now because you're having that child. That's
exactly what this is about. It is absolutely about does that if
you if you can't, you know, if you're there's no deliverance in
the Republican states, they, they fight against paid family
medical leave for women, maternal leave, parental leave.
And they want to force people to have.
the next 75 days from the Democrats, because they don't do
not want the American people to see how extremely liberal Kamala
Harris and Tim Walls are, because once they do, the
American public will say, but that's not for us.
>> But when it comes to looking for the boogeyman, that's the
Republican playbook as well. Talking about rising crime when
the crime statistics are going down. So this is all just
politics. >> No, crime statistics are not
down the bureau. They they've changed how they calculate those
statistics from one administration to the other,
just like they changed the definition of vaccine during
during the Covid pandemic. It's listen, you just ask yourself do
you feel safer today than you did four years ago?
>> I do I can go outside without, you know, potentially
like having a disease that can kill.
>> How many people in this city have been shot since we've been
here? they?
news. Those numbers. I haven't heard.
>> Those things happen. There are gun violence. Maybe if
Republicans had allowed the assault weapons ban not to
expire 30 years ago. Maybe if Republican Party wasn't in the
complete and total control of the NRA, maybe if like, again,
what Tim Walsh said last night, I believe in the Second
Amendment, but our first priority is the safety of our
children. And Republicans have absolutely abrogated that
responsibility by letting these assault weapons into our schools
to kill children over and over and over again. We are unlike
any other country on planet Earth because of the mass
shootings that we have. Because of the fact that the Republican
Party is owned by the gun lobby. >> Looking at the numbers, the
viewership numbers have come in and all of these issues that are
being put out there, how high are we? It's 20 million for the
first couple of nights. That is ahead of where Republicans were
The Democrats said that with online views, it's somewhere
around 81 million. But that's actually still small compared to
generations past. But what I want to have you guys talk about
is, how are these consumed down the road? How are these speeches
chopped up and used for advertising in a commercial for
these individual people on stage for Cavalier Johnson promoting
himself or for other being used for 75 days.
>> And Scott and I sort of focus on or maybe me, the fact that
Democrats blew prime time two nights out of the three, it
doesn't really matter as much as it would have 15 or 20 years
ago, because people consume their information differently.
They can get it in the morning. They can get it at any time of
their day on their handheld device. So the stuff that
Democrats want to push out of this convention doesn't matter
if it was at 1130 at night or at 7 p.m. in the in the evening,
they'll get it out. The stuff we want to use from here, same
thing. We'll clip it and we'll get it out. Yeah. I mean we'll
definitely agree on that. all all agree that online
viewership is an incredibly, you know, and the people who do that
are amongst the smartest news consumers we have on planet
Earth. That's for sure. Yeah, I also am looking for here's the
clips I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to the clips
about Oprah Winfrey coming out last night and saying, hey,
independents, here's the case for Kamala Harris and Tim Walls.
She made an incredible, incredible case for
independents. And again, I think, you know, independent
suburban women are going to decide this election. You know,
Oprah is a is a champion for them. I thought Oprah was good
last night. >> I think she and Michelle
Obama have created a bit of an issue for Harris tonight. Right.
Will Harris be the strongest female speaker this week? I
mean, I think Harris will do well tonight. I expect her to.
It's on a teleprompter. I'm sure it's been well crafted, but the
reality is voters have an image of what Michelle did on Tuesday
night and what Oprah did last night. And those those are
that's a pretty high bar, talking about females taking the
stage tonight, Tammy Baldwin, Wisconsin senator, has got a
speaking slot in the 6:00 hour. >> I saw a poll from Rasmussen
that came out in the last couple days. Has her up 5242. Is this
race already over? >> I don't think it's over
because you have to do the work, you know? And you know, Tammy
Baldwin, the thing she has done really, really well is win
elections. You know again in 20 in 20 in 2018 she won huge. But
she's going to do the work to make sure that she continues to
be our U.S. senator. And that work is both in the Congress and
outside the Congress. Getting $7 billion in infrastructure money.
You want to talk about deciding vote? We'll talk about it. Tammy
Baldwin deciding vote to make sure that $7 billion in
infrastructure came to Wisconsin. You know bridges
roads all of that child care to Wisconsin. You know so I think
she'll run on the fact the way that she governs which is
working across the aisle when she can for sure. But getting
results, no matter what, the race is not over.
>> Eric Hovde has a golden opportunity over the final 75
days to show a contrast with her, to explain his business
experience and why that would be important in Washington, DC.
When they feel economic insecurity. Let's not forget
that Ron Johnson was down to Mandela Barnes eight points
about this time two years ago. And by October 1st, Ron Johnson
had taken the lead. >> But he was an incumbent.
>> He was an incumbent, no question about that. But if Eric
Hovde, I think he has an opportunity here, but it has to
come on the front end of this 75 days. If he holds all of his
fire until the very end, it'll be too late. Absolutely.
>> You're absolutely right about that. Because, again, people in
D.C. are making their decisions about what are the races that
are going to be priorities and Eric Hovde is in a particularly
been any recent polling that shows him, you know, overtaking
Tammy Baldwin. And, you know, in D.C. when they're making their
choices about how do we win back the U.S. Senate, how do
Republicans win back the U.S. Senate? They're going to look at
him and say, well, he can't. He's not winning, and he's got a
ton of money from that billion, $3 billion bank out in
California, where he lives. Let him foot the bill. And that will
be the tough thing when he's sitting there with his wife and
saying, they're not coming in for me. I got to go in for 30
million now. Like that's a I don't want to be a part of that
conversation. I'll never have that conversation. I don't think
I ever. Yeah, exactly. I don't think we ever will have that
conversation. race in 2012 against Tommy
Thompson. Yeah there was a criticism of the Republican
primary, took away all of his money. He couldn't get back on
the air until after Labor Day. Right. What you just said
talking about if he waits too late, it is too late. Especially
against Tammy Baldwin. >> It is too late. She had the
money immediately in 2012. And you might recall, I certainly
do, she said. He's not who he used to be. So she was giving
voters a permission who have voted for him many, many times
to go her direction. And we didn't have the resources to
defend that or answer it until, you know, she had that. She had
burned it in for sure. >> And to me, if I may just make
two quick points about that. One is that's what happened to
Mandela Barnes. The SEC went dark for the six weeks after the
primary, so they got to defend define him with those, I would
say very racist ads that ran nonstop. But a little poke
behind the curtain. Bill and I used to work out that same gym.
And in 2012, over in Fitchburg, I would get there. I think my
class was like 630. Get there about six watch stuff. It was
nonstop. Tammy Baldwin ads, nonstop Tammy Baldwin ads up on
the screens. And so that's what happens when you can spend that
kind of money. You can define yourself, you can define your
opponent, and you can come across to be victorious. And
Democrats are going to spend all the money in the world they
would ever need to make sure that Tammy Baldwin returns.
>> There will be resource decisions. Scott is right about
that. At some point in the next six weeks, Steve Daines, who's
the head of the senatorial Committee for the Republicans,
may say, I'm pulling out of all of these states except for
Montana because Montana gets us to 51. Yep. And I'm going to put
every nickel in Montana in six weeks would be too late for Eric
Hovde at that point. >> Yeah. You know, and we've
seen that here. know, the D triple C House
majority PAC had put down $2 million to keep Ron Kind's seat
in Democratic hands, a state that we had for 26 years. They
bailed on Brad Pfaff Derrick Van Orton is in there now. They've
said they're going to spend 4 million this time, so it'll be
up to Rebecca Cooke to show in the same way that that Eric
Hovde has to show that she's really, really viable when it
comes to the game, you know, and it's going to be, you know, it's
always it's always a challenge for, for non incumbents.
>> So let's talk about money because Wisconsin politics just
put out some fundraising numbers. The Democratic Party $4
million in July. Republicans $800,000. What does that mean
when it comes to the race for the assembly or flipping the
first few seats in the state Senate that they need in that
two cycle process? >> Well, having money is
wonderful. Nobody wants less money. But the real key in this
election is that Kamala Harris and Tim Walls and Tammy Baldwin
are going to drive every single Democrat out to the polls. And I
think they get like 60 to 65% of the independents.
is actually closer than I expected it to be. Democrats
have been swamping us in money for several cycles, ever since
Ben Wikler took over as party chairman. No question about
that. But we have other resources. There are other ally
groups that are helping the Assembly in the Senate maintain
those majorities, and they're well funded.
>> But here's the thing. Why is the, you know, the, you know,
most, affluent billionaires, the largest donors to the Republican
Party, the you lines, you know, why do they spend outside of the
Republican Party? Why will they not spend inside the Republican
Party? It's such a tactical blunder when it comes to
spending money on television, because candidates get the best
ad rates. Now, Republicans created a system that you can
get all the money in the world you want through the party to
the candidates and the you lines, because they don't trust
the Republican Party of Wisconsin or whatever, are not
giving their money there. They're literally it's like a
two for one cut. >> In past election cycles where
we've looked at similar circumstances, Democrats can win
at the top of the ticket. Tammy Baldwin Overperforms everyone.
Democrats have more money. It was the maps that kept
Republicans and incumbency that kept Republicans in place. Both
of those variables are different. So do you. What do
you think of the Democrats the last few days getting very
bullish on their chances in the Assembly? I think the exuberance
is a little early. >> I my bet is still on Robin
Vos and the Assembly Republicans and keeping their majority. And
I don't think it'll be 50 or 51. I think they'll be 54 or 55.
>> When we look at the state Senate, I'm sorry. Go. Yeah. Go
ahead. >> 52 Assembly Democrats after
Election Day. And I think one Republican is going to flip and
become an independent after that.
Okay. In the state Senate, there are three races that people are
looking at. The eighth. But Duey Strobel is an incumbent in a
different district, Joan Ballweg in the 14th and a blue district,
but power of incumbency. And she's a much more moderate
Republican by a lot of people's eyes. And then the 30th up in
green Bay is an open seat. Do you think the Democrats get all
three of those, or what's it like going up against Joan
Baldwin? Because she is that's Luther Olson. That's an old seat
where people know those names. >> Yeah, I mean, but there
hasn't really been a the only competitive race in the 14th
district that I've ever seen in any way, shape or form where it
was during the recall. Those are the only resources I've ever
seen poured into that race. I think the 30th is done. Jamie
of the place. He's a great guy. He's exactly what green Bay is,
you know, with with Duey Strobel, I mean, he's a little
bit he's a little bit extreme. I will say this, like my wife
lives over had Duey Strobel. And after the map, she actually got
worse. She has kapenga. So the one like, you know, one of the
few municipalities that got a worse Republican. But yeah, I
think that it's I don't know if they're going to retake the
Senate, but they're going to come close.
Scott outlined, Democrats can pick up four. They'll pick up
the 18th, which is Oshkosh. The 30th, which is green Bay, and
then the eighth and the 14th. I don't think they're going to get
four of those. I think they're going to get two likely. But
even if they got all four, Republicans would still have 18
seats, which is one more than they need for the majority. So
they can't Democrats cannot get the majority in the Senate. This
cycle. Even if Harris caught an unbelievable tailwind and had a
little bit of coattails, the right seats are not up for them
to get the majority. >> Highly unlikely to flip both
chambers. >> Yeah, even the Democrats and
their best, best imagination. So I want to look at the other
candidates on the presidential impact Harris versus Trump,
there are reports that RFK Jr is going to be dropping out and
endorsing Trump this weekend. He's been polling at 8% in the
Marquette poll. Everyone knows. Third party candidates always
crash as we get closer to the election. But he's still there.
His name is still on the ballot. What is the impact of him going
out for Trump? Does that change the dynamics in Wisconsin?
>> I mean, it's just a reminder that the Republican Party is the
anti-vaxx party. >> What do you think this means?
>> It appears like it could be a net gain he's attracting more
Trump supporters today than Harris supporters. Wasn't
necessarily the case when Biden was in the race. So I think it
will be a net plus for even if it's still his name, still on
the ballot. Well, that's an open question about whether or not
his name can be removed from the ballot in Wisconsin. It looks
like it will remain on the ballot, but then would need him
to come here and support the ticket in that way. I still
think Donald Trump will be in Wisconsin at least four times in
the next 75 days. I think JD Vance will be here weekly. Maybe
RFK Jr comes a couple times over the next 75 days. Yes.
>> They're opening up like, you know, 50 seat arenas for JD
Vance. His weekly visits, another third party candidate on
the ticket, right. >> Or on the ballot is Jill
Stein with the Green Party. There is a challenge. And just
today, the Wisconsin Supreme Court announced they are asking
for responses from the parties by tomorrow night at 5:00 to
determine whether they should take this as an original action.
You have very strong feelings about Jill Stein. I'm sure. What
do you think about the Supreme Court, whether they keep her
name on the ballot? >> I mean, I think I don't know
what the Supreme Court's going to decide, you know. But I do
know this. You know, politics ain't beanbag. And like Jill
Stein, you know, is a problem for Democrats. And so if they
can get her off the ballot because she didn't follow the
rules, that's great. >> What's your best of my
rules. Democrats, the party of democracy, wants to knock her
off the ballot because she might get a point. She might get 1.5%,
which could be the difference in Wisconsin. She did against
Hillary Clinton. She was the deciding factor.
January you know, sixth or whenever the date is in 2025,
they can have Jill Stein talk at their, you know, Stop the Steal
rally in DC. West walking through the hall I
mean, are there are they real spoilers when it comes to the
third party. No, no. >> But I did say, yeah, I saw
Cornel West and Bill. There's like two guys who want to get
Donald Trump back in the white House. Yeah, I third parties can
get some votes in Wisconsin. >> It was decisive in 2016. It
probably wouldn't be even if Stein stays on the ballot. But
frankly, if she qualified for the ballot, she should stay on
at RFK Jr. He wants to get off the ballot. It appears we'll
find out for sure tomorrow. Then let him off.
>> So I saw some numbers from Adimpact on spending
reservations going through the fall. The only state where
Republicans are even close to Democrats is Pennsylvania. In
Wisconsin, it's 24 million to 7 million. And future reservations
for ads. We were just talking about the importance of those
dollars. I mean, how big is that comparison going to be down the
stretch for ads on the screens? >> Well, I mean, again, remember
why Hillary Clinton lost Wisconsin in 2016? They didn't
spend money on TV here. >> Well, she didn't come here.
>> Yeah, but I mean more she could have visited. But if you
were going to take her visiting once or twice or $15 million in
ads, I think I know what I would take.
comparison because you were talking about Trump being here
versus obviously what they're expecting to spend on TV.
>> New reports suggest that Harris and Walls have raised
somewhere around a half $1 billion in the last 60 days, or
35, 40 days. That's extraordinary. Right? Democrats
will have a money advantage. We're going to have to outwork
them. There's no question about that. But the reality is on that
money, they're competing for about 4% of the voters. The cost
per vote on what they're spending will be extraordinary.
>> But the return is the presidency, you know.
>> And again, look at look at the money advantage that
Democrat, the Democratic Party has the fact that they've been
able to open, I think, 46 coordinated offices in 43
counties, including 20 counties or 32 counties where Donald
Trump actually won. They're competing there hard and again,
it is it's about the work. It's the work they're doing every
day, neighbor to neighbor, person to person knocking those
doors. seconds left. There are rumors
everywhere on the internet about special guest tonight. So take
your best wild stab in the dark. Who do you think Kamala Harris
is going to have on stage, or who's going to make their
appearance? >> I'd love to see Beyonce.
>> What do you think I hope it's not t-swift. All right. We will
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