WISCONSIN.
>> ENTHUSIASM FOR VOTING IN THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IS WAY
DOWN FROM FOUR YEARS AGO. THAT IS A MESSAGE FROM THE LATEST
MARQUETTE LAW SCHOOL POLL OUT THIS WEEK. FOR DETAILS WE TURN
TO POLL DIRECTOR CHARLESTON FRANKLIN, THANKS SO MUCH FOR
BEING HERE. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> OVERALL HOW DOES DO DOES ENTHUSIASM COMPARE?
ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT VOTING. THAT
IS QUITE A DROP. IT WAS DOWN IN OUR JANUARY POLL ALSO ABOUT 20
POINTS BELOW WHERE IT HAD BEEN FOUR YEARS AGO. NOW ENTHUSIASM
CAN CHANGE OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, THIS IS NOT
NECESSARILY BAKED IN. BUT AT THE START OF THE RACE IT SHOWS WE
ARE NOT REALLY EAGER IN LOOKING FORWARD TO THE FALL CAMPAIGN.
>> LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRESIDENTIAL MATCHUPS IN YOUR
POLLING. IT IS TRUMP 51% TO BIDEN AT 49%. IN YOUR LAST POLL
THEY WERE EVEN. BUT YOU ALSO FOUND INDEPENDENT RFK , JR. GOT
13% AND TAKING VOTES FROM TRUMP. WHAT IS THIS SPELLING FOR BIDEN?
POLLS NOW, THAT REPUBLICANS VOTE
FOR KENNEDY ABOUT FOUR TO FIVE POINTS MORE THAN DEMOCRATS VOTE
FOR KENNEDY. SO IT IS A LITTLE MORE FROM THE REPUBLICAN SIDE.
NOW THE GREEN CANDIDATE, JILL STEIN AND INDEPENDENT CORNELL
WEST TAKE MORE FROM DEMOCRATS THAN REPUBLICANS. THIS MONTH IS
A SMALL CHANGE. TRUMP IS UP TWO IN THE HEAD-TO-HEAD, UP BY ONE
POINT IN THE FIVE-WAY RACE, SO THE NET EFFECT OF ALL THIS IS
SLIGHTLY IMPROVED BIDEN'S POSITION BUT IT IS A VERY SLIGHT
DIFFERENCE. ONE LAST THING, KENNEDY GETTING 13%, REMEMBER IN
2016, WHICH WAS THE RECENT HIGH WATER MARK IN WISCONSIN, ALL
INDEPENDENT CANDIDATES TOGETHER ONLY GOT 5.5% OF THE VOTE.
>> SO 13% IS A BIG NUMBER. TAKING A LOOK AT THE TAMMY
BALDWIN AND HOVDE COMPARISON, AMONG REGISTERED VOTERS IS
DEMOCRAT TAMMY BALDWIN, 52 TO 47 HOVDE. HOW HAS THAT MOVED SINCE
HOVDE ANNOUNCED?
VOTE QUESTION BECAUSE HE WASN'T AN ANNOUNCED CANDIDATE YET. THIS
IS OUR FIRST TIME OF POLLING THAT. HOVDE HAS GOTTEN BETTER
KNOWN SINCE JANUARY, WHEN WE DID ASK IF YOU HAD A FAVORABLE OR
UNFAVORABLE VIEW. THEN IN JANUARY, 82% SAID THEY DIDN'T
KNOW ENOUGH TO HAVE AN OPINION. THIS TIME IT IS 56% SO
SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH IN NAME RECOGNITION BUT STILL MORE THAN
HALF THE ELECTORATE DON'T HAVE AN OPINION. THAT IS TOTALLY
NORMAL FOR NONINCOME WANT CANDIDATES FOR THIS STAGE BUT BY
COMPARISON 11% SAID THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPINION OF TAMMY
BALDWIN. NUMBERS ARE EVEN AT 50%.
WHAT IS THE IMPLICATION OF THAT?
50/50 TIE MEANS THIS COULD LOOK LIKE A CLOSE RACE WHEN PEOPLE
WERE THINKING OF BALDWIN'S 11-POINT ONE SIX YEARS AGO THIS
LOOKS LIKE A MUCH CLOSER RACE THAN IN 2018. THE OTHER IS THAT
I THINK HOVDE ACTUALLY BENEFITS IN AN ODD KIND OF WAY IN THAT
50/50 SPLIT WE ARE SAYING DEMOCRAT TAMMY BALDWIN OR
REPUBLICAN ERIC HOVDE WHEN HALF THE ELECTORATE DON'T HAVE AN
OPINION OF HOVDE SUPPLYING THE REPUBLICAN LABEL HELPS THEM
DECIDE THIS IS SOMEONE ON MY TEAM OR MAYBE NOT ON MY TEAM.
TWO OTHER WAYS OF ASKING THE QUESTION SHOW A RANGE OF ANSWERS
WITH BALDWIN AHEAD BY AS MUCH AS SEVEN OR FIVE AS WE HAVE JUST
EMPHASIZED ON THE REGISTERED VOTER, OR TIED. SO IT IS A RANGE
OF THINGS. I THINK A CLOSE RACE IS THE BEST ANSWER TO TAKE AWAY
FROM IT. >> LOOKING KIND OF DEEPER INTO
THE ENTHUSIASM PART OF YOUR POLLING SPECIFIC TO
-- VERY ENTHUSIASTIC COMPARED TO 59% OF TRUMP VOTERS.
THEN FOR NOT AT ALL ENTHUSIASTIC TO VOTE 62% SAY THAT FOR JOE
BIDEN, 37% FOR DONALD TRUMP. >> I THINK THIS IS REALLY THE
LOOK OF THE RACE, THAT TRUMP HAS A VERY SUPPORTIVE, VERY
ENTHUSIASTIC GROUND BEHIND HIM. BIDEN VOTERS ARE JUST SIMPLY
MAYBE BIDEN VOTERS. THEY ARE CERTAINLY MOSTLY NOT TRUMP
VOTERS BUT NOT EXCITED ABOUT THE RACE OR ENTHUSIASTIC. THEY LIKE
THE COUNTRY HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT BIDEN'S AGE, ISRAEL AND
HAMAS AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE MAKING BIDEN SUPPORTERS
UNENTHUSIASTIC EVEN IF THEY ARE STILL COMMITTED TO VOTING FOR
THEM. YOU MOBILIZE THOSE UNENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT ERS.
>> LET'S LOOK AT THE ISSUE, THE TOP THREE ISSUES WERE THE
ECONOMY, IMMIGRATION AND ABORTION. IT SEEMS OF NOTE THAT
THE ISSUE OF ISRAEL AND GAZA WAS WAY DOWN THE LIST AT 2%.
>> WAY DOWN. AMONG PEOPLE 18 TO 29 IT WAS 7% THAT SAID ISRAEL
AND GAZA WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT PROBLEM. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD
EXAMPLE THAT INDIVIDUAL GROUPS AND PARTICULAR ISSUES CAN
MOBILIZE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE REALLY STRONG OPINIONS.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE ON THE COUNTRY
AS A WHOLE OR EVEN AMONG YOUNG VOTERS AND IT IS LESS THAN 7%
AMONG DEMOCRATS AND PEOPLE WHO CONSIDER THEMSELVES VERY LIB
RAT. THE OTHER THING ON THIS ISSUE IS THAT DEMOCRATS PUT
ABORTION AS THE FIRST ISSUE BUT IMMIGRATION ONLY GETS 1% AS THE
MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATS. IT AND THE ECONOMY
ARE BY FAR THE TOP TWO ISSUES FOR REPUBLICANS.
>> ALL RIGHT, CHARLES FRANKLIN, >> ALL RIGHT, CHARLES FRANKLIN,