>> DR. JASMINE ZAPATA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> MM-HMM. THANK YOU.
>> TURNING TO WISCONSIN AS A KEY BATTLEGROUND STATE IN THE
NOVEMBER ELECTIONS, IT'S GAME ON.
THIS PAST TUESDAY'S PRIMARY ELECTIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY
CEMENTED DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN AS THE MAJOR PARTY
CANDIDATES FOR PRESIDENT. AGAIN.
CANDIDATES FOR U.S. SENATE IN WISCONSIN ARE ALSO OUT OF THE
CAMPAIGN CHUTES. WE CHECK IN NOW WITH OUR
POLITICAL PANELIST, REPUBLICAN BILL MCCOSHEN AND SCOT ROSS.
THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. >> GREAT TO BE HERE.
>> TO START THINGS OFF, I MEAN, WE HAVE ONE CANDIDATE DESCRIBED
OFFICIALLY AS OLD AND FORGETFUL AND ANOTHER AS AN INDICTED
THREAT TO DEMOCRACY. GIVEN THAT, WHO IS IN A BETTER
POSITION HERE? BILL?
POLLS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS HAVE
SAID THIS IS THE RACE NO ONE WANTED.
TWO-THIRDS OF VOTERS SAID THEY DIDN'T WANT A REMATCH FROM 2020,
YET HERE WE ARE. IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY IN AMERICA.
WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS, A REMATCH OF PREVIOUS
CONTENDERS IN 68 YEARS. IKE VERSUS STEVENSON WAS THE
LAST TIME WE'VE SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS.
THE LAST TIME WE SAW A FORMER PRESIDENT RUN AGAINST A CURRENT
PRESIDENT WAS 134 YEARS AGO, GROVER CLEVELAND AGAINST
BENJAMIN HARRISON. SO IT'S PRETTY RARE.
>> DON'T YOU DARE MAKE A BIDEN JOKE.
>> IT'S PRETTY RARE IN AMERICAN POLITICS, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS
RACE I THINK IS ALREADY BAKED. THERE'S NOT A LOT OF UNDECIDEDS.
EVERYBODY NO, SIR THESE TWO PEOPLE.
THEY EITHER THINK BIDEN IS OLD OR TRUMP'S GOT ISSUES AFTER
ISSUES. SO, YOU KNOW, I HOPE IT'S NOT A
BATTLE TO THE BOTTOM, BUT I'M HOPING THAT BOTH OF THEM CAN
ELEVATE THE GAME AND INSPIRE AMERICA AND WIN THE JOB, BUT
WE'LL SEE OVER THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS.
GEST PRESIDENTIAL JEN ELECTION WE'VE
EVER HAD. >> AND A BLOODBATH, I IMAGINE.
>> SO, SCOTT, WHAT ABOUT YOU? WHO DO YOU THINK IS IN A BETTER
POSITION GIVEN THE DESCRIPTIONS OF THESE TWO CANDIDATES?
>> I'D SAY THIS. SO YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE AND
YOU'VE GOT AN 81-YEAR OLD GUY WHO COMES FROM SCRANTON WITH A
BUCKET OF WATER FIRE HOSE AND A GUY, 77 I DO RECALL FROM NEW
YORK OR FLORIDA WHO COMES WITH A GALLON OF GASOLINE.
WHICH ONE ARE YOU GOING TO HIRE THE JOB THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE
WHICH IS TO PUT THE FIRE OUT IN YOUR HOUSE.
I THINK THIS IS BIDEN'S RACE TO LOSE, BUT THEY'VE GOT TO DO ALL
THE WORK, AND I CARE ABOUT WISCONSIN.
HAPPENED IN 2016 IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN
HERE AGAIN. LIKE THEY WILL INVEST, THEY'RE
INVESTING HEAVY. AT THE SAME TIME, THEY'RE DOING
ALL THAT INVESTING HERE, YOU'VE GOT THE STUFF WITH THE RNC WHERE
THEY'VE LOST DOZENS OF STAFFERS. THEY JUST ANNOUNCED THEY'RE
CLOSED OUTREACH CENTERS IN MILWAUKEE AND YOU'VE GOT A
CANDIDATE WHO NOW HAS TAKEN OVER THE RNC AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF
THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THIS MONEY ON HOVDE AND BENNETT OR IF
THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND IT ON HIS LEGAL BILLS.
THERE'S A LOT THERE. ON THE ISSUES I THINK BIDEN HAS
IT TOP TO BOTTOM, STARTING WITH ABORTION, FIRST AND FOREMOST.
>> I'M SOMEWHAT AMAZED THAT I'M SAYING THAT DONALD TRUMP IS IN
THE FRONTRUNNER SPOT RIGHT NOW, NATIONALLY.
MOST NATIONAL POLLS. THERE'S A COUPLE THAT SHOW BIDEN
IN THE LEAD. ALL THE REST SHOW TRUMP IN THE
LEAD AND IT HAS HIM LEADING IN CRITICAL STATES LIKE MICHIGAN.
IPSOS HAD HIM UP THREE POINTS IN MICHIGAN AND THE PRO-PALESTINIAN
MOVEMENT IS PART OF BIDEN'S PROBLEM THERE.
AS IT RELATES TO WISCONSIN, I WOULD GIVE DONALD TRUMP AND HIS
TEAM THIS ADVICE. LESS IS MORE.
I WOULD GO GOLFING FOR THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS.
I WOULD DO WHAT BIDEN DID IN 2020.
THAT HE HAS ARE VERY DANGEROUS BECAUSE
HE'S VERY UNDISCIPLINED ON THE STUMP.
S, HE WINS THIS THING EASILY.
IF HE ENGAGES ALL THE WAY ALONG FOR THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS, IT'S
GOING TO BE A COIN TOSS. >> HUH.
SO WHAT IS IT LIKE FOR ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS TO GO
WISCONSIN? DON D TRUMP IN
OPTION. RIGHT?
RE -- I WANTED SOMEONE WHO COULD SERVE
TWO TERMS, WHO WAS MORE CONSERVATIVE.
I LOST. SO FOR ME, I'M HOPEFUL THAT
HE'LL PICK SOMEONE AS HIS RUNNING MATE THAT WILL APPEAL TO
THE SUBURBAN VOTERS. DONALD TRUMP DID NOT DO WELL
WITH THE SUBURBAN VOTERS IN WISCONSIN AND IN MULTIPLE OTHER
SWING STATES IN TO 20. HE HAS TO FIX THAT IN THIS
ELECTIONMENT IF HE PICKS A SYCOPHANT WHO IS JUST LOYAL TO
HIM, FIERCELY LOYAL TO HIM, I DON'T THINK THAT CHANGES THE
DYNAMIC FOR HIS ELECTION. HE NEEDS TO PICK SOMEBODY WHO
LOOKS LIKE THE FUTURE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
>> I AGREE WITH WHAT BILL IS SAYING.
HE SHOULD DO THAT. I DON'T THINK HE WILL.
HE'S GOING TO PICK A SYCOPHANT. AND WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT
THE SUBURBAN VOTERS, TWO THINGS: ABORTION AND THE FACT THAT HE'S
CURRENTLY TRYING TO PAY OFF A DEFAMATORY SUIT AGAINST HIM BY A
VICTIM OF HIS SEXUAL ASSAULT. IF WOMEN WERE TURNED OFF BY
ABORTION, THAT'S JUST THE NAIL IN THE COFFIN.
AGAIN, GOT TO DO THE WORK. >> TOP TWO ISSUES ARE
IMMIGRATION OR THE BORDER AND THE ECONOMY, AND TRUMP'S RIGHT
SIDE UP ON THOSE. HE'S PLUS 10 AT LEAST ON BOTH OF
THOSE ISSUES. SO IF THE ELECTION IS ABOUT
THOSE TWO ISSUES IN THE FALL, HE'S GOING TO WIN.
>> IT'S INTERESTING, THE ISSUE OF THE ECONOMY.
I MEAN, I GUESS IT'S HOUSING COSTS THAT ARE MAKING PEOPLE
THINK THAT IT'S BAD, BUT BY OTHER METRICS, IT'S JUST NOT.
>> I'M GOING TO STIPULATE THAT A LOT OF THE ECONOMIC DATA IS GOOD
FOR THE PRESIDENT. IT IS NOT TRANCE RATING INTO
SUPPORT AT THE BALLOT BOX. VOTERS DON'T FEEL IT.
THEY DON'T SEE IT. AND UNLESS AND UNTIL THEY DO,
IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT DONALD TRUMP.
E U.S. SENATE RACE, REPUBLICAN ERIC
HOVDE IS ON THE RACE OF. HE WOULDN'T THE LAST TIME WE
SPOKE. ARE HIS DEEP POCKETS A THREAT?
>> I THINK THAT THE THREE BIG CHALLENGES THAT ERIC HOVDE HAS,
FIRST IS THAT HE'S FACING AN INCREDIBLY FORMIDABLE CANDIDATE
IN TAMMY BALDWIN, WHO HAS BIPARTISAN SUPPORT ACROSS THE
BOARD FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE FOR THE STATE OF WISCONSIN, THE
DAIRY PRIDE ACT, THE A.C.A. AND LETTING 26-YEAR-OLDS BE ON
HEALTHCARE, THE ISSUE OF ABORTION AND BUY AMERICA.
THOSE THINGS, THINGS THAT WERE MADE PERMANENT BY PUT IN PLACE
WITH TRUMP'S SIGNATURE, MADE PERMANENT BY PRESIDENT BIDEN.
HOVDE, SO THAT'S HIS FIRST CHALLENGE.
ALLENGES ARE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, HE'S VERY
CLEARLY RUNNING HIS OWN CAMPAIGN, AND ANY CANDIDATE WHO
IS TRYING TO RUN THEIR OWN CAMPAIGN IS A DISASTER IN
WAITING AND THE THIRD POINT I WOULD SAY IS THAT HE'S TRYING --
AS HE'S TRYING TO CREATE A CULT OF PERSONALITY AROUND HIMSELF,
AND THERE'S ONLY ONE CULT FIGURE IN THE G.O.P. AND THAT'S TRUMP.
>> WE'RE GOING TO AGREE ON THE FIRST PART, TAMMY BALDWIN IS
GOING TO BE A TOUGH OUT. YOUR VIEWERS SHOULD BE REMINDED
THAT ONLY ONE STATEWIDE INCUMBENT LOST ANYWHERE IN THE
COUNTRY IN 2022 AND THAT WAS THE GOVERNOR OF NEVADA.
SO BEATING A STATEWIDE INCUMBENT IS A VERY HIGH MOUNTAIN TO
CLIMB. HAVING SAID THAT, I THINK ERIC
HOVDE'S OFF TO A VERY, VERY GOOD START.
THE FIELD.
VE A PRIMARY WHICH WILL ALLOW HIM TO
MANAGE HIS RESOURCES BETTER. TIM MICHAELS TWO YEARS AGO WAS
SPENDING NEARLY A MILLION DOLLARS A WEEK TO BEAT CLAYFISH
IN THE PRIMARY. HOVDE WON'T HAVE TO SPEND THAT
KIND OF MONEY TO GET THROUGH THE PRIMARY, BUT HE'S GOT TO
INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO WISCONSIN. THEY'VE BEEN NIMBLE ON HIS FEET
SO FAR. I LIKE THAT HE'S ADVERTISING IN
DANE COUNTY BECAUSE A REPUBLICAN CANNOT GET SWAMPED IN DANE AND
MILWAUKEE COUNTIES AND WIN STATEWIDE, SO I GIVE HIM AN "A"
FOR HIS FIRST MONTH ON THE FOR HIS FIRST MONTH ON THE