>> THIS WEEK, WISCONSIN ATTORNEY GENERAL JOSH KAUL ANNOUNCED HE
IS GOING AFTER A LOOPHOLE IN STATE LAW THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE
CONVICTED OF DISORDERLY CONDUCT INVOLVING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO
POSSESS A FIREMEN. >> THE DATA IS -- POSSESS A
FIREARM. >> THE DATA IS CLEAR WHEN
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND ACCESS TO FIREARMS ARE LINKED, THE
DANGEROUSNESS OF THE SITUATION DECREASES DRAMATICALLY.
IN SOME INSTANCES, ACCESS TO A FIREARM CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN WHETHER A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CASE RESULTS IN
SOMEBODY'S DEATH OR NOT. >> MEANWHILE, THE U.S. SUPREME
COURT IS NOW CONSIDERING THE CASE OF A TEXAS MAN WHO ARGUED
HIS SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED BECAUSE A 1994 FEDERAL
LAW PROHIBITED HIM FROM HAVING A GUN AS THE SUBJECT OF A DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE RESTRAINING ORDER. AS THE COURT WAS POISED TO HEAR
THE CASE, WISCONSIN U.S. REPRESENTATIVE GWEN MOORE
INTRODUCED A RESOLUTION IN CONGRESS CALLING ATTENTION TO
THE, QUOTE, RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN FIREARM VIOLENCE,
MISOGYNY, AND FROM ACCESSING GUNS.
REPRESENTATIVE MOOR JOINS US FROM WASHINGTON.
CONGRESSWOMAN MOORE, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR JOINING US.
>> OH. IT IS SO WONDERFUL ALWAYS TO BE
WITH YOU, FREDERICA. >> SO YOUR RESOLUTION SAYS
LEGISLATION IS NEEDED TO PREVENT INDIVIDUALS WITH A HISTORY OF
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN FROM PURCHASING OR POSSESSING A
FIREARM. >> WELL, WE ARE SEEING RIGHT NOW
IN THE SUPREME COURT A DECISION THAT WAS MADE AT THE LOWER
COURT. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO WAIT A
YEAR FROM NOW TO SEE WHAT THE COURT DOES.
WE'RE TRYING TO BE REALLY PREEMPTIVE NOW SO THAT THERE
WON'T BE ANY GAP IN SUPPORT OR SERVICES. I MEAN, FOR 20 YEA
RS OR MORE, IT'S SORT OF BEEN THE LAW OF THE
LAND THAT IF PEOPLE GO OUT AND GET RESTRAINING ORDERS, IF
THERE'S BEEN A HISTORY OF VIOLENCE AND DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,
THAT YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL SOMEONE ACTUALLY
PULLS THE TRIGGER, AND WE SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, FIREARMS IS THE,
YOU KNOW, 88, ALMOST 90% OF THE CAUSE OF DEATH IN THE DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE SITUATION, THAT THOSE INTERVENTIONS CAN BE MADE,
BECAUSE WE ABSOLUTELY DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY LAPSE IN THE
ABILITY FOR THE COURT TO DENY, YOU KNOW, A GUN TO A KNOWN
BATTERER, AND SO WE THINK THAT THIS -- THIS CIRCUIT COURT
DECISION COULD CREATE A LOT OF CONFUSION AND REALLY PUT WOMEN'S
LIVES AT RISK. SO WE DON'T THINK THERE WAS ANY
TIME TO WASTE. >> SO THIS IS PERSONAL FOR YOU
AND YOU EXPRESSED THAT IN INTRODUCING YOUR RESOLUTION.
WHAT HAPPENED THAT DRIVES YOU? >> WELL, FREDERICA, YOU KNOW,
I'M 72 YEARS OLD, SO I'VE BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME, AND, YOU
KNOW, WHEN I WAS IN MY EARLY 20s, LONG BEFORE THERE WAS THE
VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN ACT, LONG BEFORE THERE WERE ANY HOT LINES
TO CALL OR ANYTHING, A THEN BOYFRIEND PULLED A GUN OUT TO MY
HEAD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, WAS TOO SASSY OR WHATEVER,
AND THREATENED TO SHOOT ME AND I, BEING VERY FOOLISH, YOU KNOW,
TOLD HIM, JUST GO ON AND SHOOT IT OR EAT IT, YOU KNOW, AND SO
HE JUST SAID I WAS CRAZY, WHICH I PROBABLY WAS BECAUSE HE COULD
HAVE SHOT AND KILLED ME. BUT I GUESS I'M GRATEFUL THAT HE
DIDN'T, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DEPEND ON LUCK,
BECAUSE THERE ARE TOO MANY WOMEN WHO ARE NOT LUCKY.
THERE WAS A REPORT DONE BY END ABUSE WISCONSIN THAT I FOUND
VERY, VERY DISTRESSING, TO BE FRANK WITH YOU.
WE HAD SEEN A DECLINE IN DOMESTIC ABUSE, THANKS TO THE
WORK OF A LOT OF AGENCIES ALL AROUND THE COUNTRY, BUT IN THE
LAST -- LAST YEARS, THERE'S BEEN A HUGE UPTICK AND IN 2021, 2022,
WE SAW A HUGE UPTICK IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND PARTICULARLY WITH
THE USE OF GUNS IN WISCONSIN. WE'VE SEEN A DISPARATE IMPACT IN
MINORITY COMMUNITIES. WITH REGARD TO THE SPLIT BETWEEN
URBAN AND RURAL COMMUNITIES, IT'S JUST ABOUT HALF-AND-HALF.
SO IT'S NOT JUST AN URBAN PROBLEM; AS IT'S A RURAL PROBLE,
AND, OF COURSE, THE VICTIMS DISPROPORTIONATELY SEEM TO BE
WOMEN. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T PRETEND
THAT IT'S NOT A SOCIAL PROBLEM THAT WOMEN, CHILDREN, OTHER
FAMILY MEMBERS, THAT ARE NEARBY AREN'T AFFECTED BY THIS SCOURGE
AND THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN A HUGE UPTICK IN
THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. >> THOSE ARE EXTREMELY ALARMING
STATISTICS, AS YOU POINT OUT. WHY IS IT SO DIFFICULT, THOUGH,
TO KIND OF TRANSLATE THOSE STATISTICS INTO MEANINGFUL
PROTECTIVE POLICY. >> WELL, FREDERICA, QUITE
FRANKLY, I THINK THAT PEOPLE HAVE ELEVATED, YOU KNOW, THE
QUOTE/UNQUOTE SECOND AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, ABOVE AND BEYOND OUR
VALUE FOR LIFE, BY FAR. THESE HOMICIDES OCCUR BECAUSE
THERE'S AN AVAILABLE FIREARM. >> WHAT IS THE CONNECTION
BETWEEN MISOGYNY, VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN, AND FIREARM
VIOLENCE, EVEN THE INCREASE IN MASS SHOOTINGS?
>> LET ME TAKE THAT LAST PART FIRST. IT WAS STUNNING TO M
E TO LEARN THAT MANY OF THE MASS SHOOTINGS
THAT WE SEE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAD PRIOR BEHAVIOR AS DOMESTIC
ABUSERS. SO, YOU KNOW, SURPRISE,
SURPRISE. HERE'S A MASS KILLER, BUT THEY
HAD BEEN PEOPLE WHO HAD BEEN ENGAGED IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
BEFORE THE ACT OF BEING A MASS KILLER, SO THERE'S VERY CLEARLY
A CONNECTION. AND, OF COURSE, MISOGYNY, ONE OF
THE THINGS THAT OCCURRED DURING COVID, WHEN WE HAD ALL OF THESE
COMMERCIALS SAYING "YOU'RE SAFER AT HOME," IS WHEN WE STARTED
SEEING REALLY A HUGE UPTICK IN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND I REALLY
HAD TO COME OUT AND SAY, MY GOD, THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE
NOT SAFER AT HOME. BUT I THINK WHAT REALLY
CONTRIBUTES TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS THE PRESENCE OF A
GUN. >> CONGRESSWOMAN GWEN MOORE, WE