>> THE HORROR CONTINUES TO
UNFOLD, NOW NEARLY TWO WEEKS
AFTER HAMAS TERRORISTS LAUNCHED
A DEADLY SURPRISE ATTACK IN
ISRAEL.
PRESIDENT BIDEN SEEKS $100
BILLION IN MILITARY AND
HUMANITARIAN AID, INCLUDING FOR
ISRAEL AND UKRAINE.
MEANWHILE, LEADERSHIP IN THE
HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, WHICH
WOULD HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT AID
PACKAGE, HAS BEEN IN CHAOS.
THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY HAS
STRUGGLED MIGHTILY TO ELECT A
SPEAKER.
ON THIS, WE HEAD TO WASHINGTON
NOW FOR A CHECK-IN WITH MEMBERS
OF THE WISCONSIN CONGRESSIONAL
DELEGATION ON THIS DEVELOPING
SITUATION ON TWO FRONTS.
FIRST, WE TALK WITH WISCONSIN
SIXTH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
U.S. REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLICAN
GLENN GROTHMAN.
CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU FOR BEING
WITH US.
>> HAPPY TO BE ON THE SHOW.
>> SO YOU AND THE REST OF THE
WISCONSIN DELEGATION CONTINUED
TO SUPPORT REPRESENTATIVE JIM
JORDAN IN MULTIPLE FAILED VOTES
FOR SPEAKER.
MINUS DERRICK VAN ORDEN, WHO WE
KNOW IS ABSENT BECAUSE HE IS NOW
IN ISRAEL.
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO BEING
PART OF THIS DISARRAY, REALLY,
THAT HAS LEFT U.S. GOVERNMENT
UNABLE TO FULLY GOVERN?
>> THE PROBLEM IS, I THINK
LEADERSHIP OVER A PERIOD OF
YEARS, AND MAYBE THEY COULDN'T
HAVE DONE ANYTHING DIFFERENT,
FAILED TO INSTILL IN THE
REPUBLICANS THE IDEA THAT YOU
HAVE AN INTERNAL, FIRST, A PAPER
BALLOT VOTE, A SECRET VOTE
BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE
SPEAKER AND THEN THE PERSON WHO
WINS THAT VOTE, EVERY SINGLE
REPUBLICAN IS SUPPOSED TO STICK
BEHIND THEM ON THE FLOOR SO WE
CAN GO AHEAD.
UNFORTUNATELY, IN THE LAST WEEK
OR SO, THERE ARE A GIVEN NUMBER
OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT VOTE FOR
KEVIN McCARTHY, THE SPEAKER.
I VOTED FOR HIM.
THERE WERE A GIVEN NUMBER OF
PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT VOTE FOR
STEVE SCALISE, WHO WAS THE
MAJORITY SPEAKER.
WE DID NOT TAKE THAT VOTE TO THE
FLOOR, BUT 10 TO 15 PEOPLE MADE
A CREDIBLE THREAT THAT THEY
WOULD NOT VOTE ON THE FLOOR SO
SCALISE WITHDRAW.
THE THIRD MAN UP WAS JIM JORDAN,
AND HE WAS GIVEN HIM THREE
VOTES, WHICH IS MORE THAN ENOUGH
VOTES, AND HE LOST, 20, THEN 22,
THEN 25 VOTES.
SO YOUR LISTENERS UNDERSTAND
THAT IF THEY LOSE MORE THAN
THREE VOTES, THEY DON'T HAVE THE
VOTES TO GOVERN.
AND LIKE I SAID, I THINK IT
COMES DOWN TO A LACK OF
PREPARATION FROM THE BEGINNING.
I THINK OF THE EIGHT PEOPLE WHO
VOTED AGAINST KEVIN McCARTHY,
I BELIEVE ONLY ONE OF THOSE
EIGHT WAS AROUND WHEN I GOT TO
CONGRESS JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.
SO I THINK WE'VE TO BE A REALLY
BAD JOB OF EDUCATING THE
FRESHMEN ON THE IDEA BEHIND TEAM
PLAY.
>> A HOUSE VOTE WOULD BE NEEDED
FOR THE $100 BILLION MILITARY
AND HUMANITARIAN AID PACKAGE TO
INCLUDE ISRAEL AND UKRAINE THAT
PRESIDENT BIDEN IS SEEKING AND
SPOKE TO IN AN ADDRESS TO THE
NATION THURSDAY NIGHT.
WHAT IS YOUR SUPPORT FOR THAT
KIND OF AID PACKAGE?
>> THERE ARE TWO PARTS TO IT.
FIRST OF ALL, WE DO HAVE TO GET
AID TO ISRAEL, BUT WE ALSO HAVE
TO REALIZE THAT WE'VE GOT TO
MAKE IT CLEAR TO JOE BIDEN,
WE'RE NOT TAKING THESE
PALESTINIAN FOLKS IN AS AMERICAN
REFUGEES.
THEY'VE BEEN RAISED AS EARLY ON
TO HATE JEWS IN GENERAL, AND
EGYPT, WHICH IS THE OBVIOUS
PLACE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO GO,
WILL NOT TAKE THEM.
THEY WON'T TAKE THEM BECAUSE
THEY KNOW VERY WELL WHO THEY'D
BE GETTING, SO WE DON'T WANT
THESE GAZA PEOPLE SHOWING UP
HERE, MUCH LESS A MILLION OF
THEM.
AS FOR UKRAINE, I VOTED FOR
UKRAINE PACKAGES SIX TIMES IN
THE PAST, BUT THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT TRYING TO
NEGOTIATE AN END HERE OR THEY'RE
NOT DEPUTIZING THE TURKS OR THE
FRENCH OR SOMEBODY TO WORK
TOWARDS AN END.
THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAS
BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR
AND A HALF AND I WOULD BE HAPPY
IF IT WENT ON ANOTHER YEAR AND A
HALF WITHOUT ANY STEPS TOWARDS
PEACE.
SOMEHOW WE'VE GOT TO SEND THE
MESSAGE TO THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION THAT WE WANT
PEACE IN RUSSIA AND THEY ARE
DOING, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL,
NOTHING.
ALSO, WHEN THE RUSSIA-UKRAINE
WAR STARTED, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY
SIX WEEKS OR COUPLE MONTHS, WE
CEDE PRIVATE BRIEFINGS FROM THE
RELEVANT PEOPLE IN THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION AS TO WHAT WAS
GOING ON.
WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A BRIEFING
ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN UKRAINE
SINCE BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
SO FOR WHATEVER REASON, THE
BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS NOT
TALKING TO CONGRESS AND THAT'S
ANOTHER REASON TO VOTE "NO" FOR
NOW UNTIL THEY LET US KNOW
WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
>> SO YOU ARE SAYING WITH LESS
THAN 30 SECONDS LEFT, THAT YOU
WOULD VOTE "NO" ON THIS MILITARY
AND HUMANITARIAN AID PACKAGE?
>> I WOULDN'T CALL IT
HUMANITARIAN AND MILITARY.
WHAT WE WANT IS SOME EFFORT
PROPERTY BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TO
WORK TOWARDS PEACE AND SOME
GUARANTEE THEY'RE NOT GOING TO
OPEN UP THE DOORS AND GIVE US A
MILLION PALESTINIAN REFUGEES.