WANT YOUR TAX DOLLARS BEING
SPENT, IS IT HAVING THE INTENDED
EFFECT?
>> RESULTS OF THE MAIN CHOICE ON
THE BALLOT LEFT A JUBILANT
WINNER AND AN ANGRY LOSER.
THIS SHIFTS THE BALANCE OF THE
COURT TO A LIBERAL MAJORITY.
MUCH WATCHED RESULT WITH
POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS GOING
FORWARD.
FOR MORE, WE CHECK IN WITH OUR
POLITICAL PANELIST DEMOCRAT
SCOTT ROSS AND REPUBLICAN BILL
McCOSHEN AND THANK YOU FOR
BEING WITH US.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
>> FIRST, I WANT TO ASK ABOUT
DANIEL KELLY'S CONCESSION
SPEECH.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT,
BILL?
>> WELL, YOU WANT TO WIN WITH
GRACE AND HUMILITY AND LOSE WITH
CLASS AND HUMILITY AND HE DID
NOT DO THAT.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU LOSE BY 11
POINTS, THAT'S A LANDSLIDE IN
THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
YOU NEED TO BE A LITTLE MORE
HUMBLE.
I THINK IT WAS INSULTING TO ALL
THE PEOPLE THAT WORKED SO HARD
FOR HIM, FOLKS THAT DONATED TO
HIM.
I MEAN, THAT'S A REPRESENTATION
ON THEM, TOO, AND HE DIDN'T
THINK ABOUT THAT.
YOU'VE GOT TO LOSE WITH CLASS.
>> WHEN YOU SAW THAT, WHAT DID
YOU THINK?
>> I THOUGHT IT'S THE FACE OF
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY RIGHT NOW
BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN DECISIVE AND
EXTREME.
HE IS THE EMBODIMENT OF WHERE
THE REPUBLICAN HAS GONE.
IT'S NOT WHERE BILL'S AT.
IT'S THE TRUMP, THE DeSANTIS,
THE DIVISION, JUST THE REJECTION
OF WHAT HAVE BEEN NORMS IN BOTH
POLICY AND POLITICS.
>> SO, BILL, THIS WAS AN
11-POINT WIN, AS YOU POINTED
OUT.
THAT WAS A TROUNCING.
WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED?
>> WELL, IT WAS TWICE AS BAD AS
HIS LAST RACE IN 2020.
HE LOST BY ABOUT 110,000 VOTES A
COUPLE OF YEARS AGO AND THIS ONE
WAS MORE LIKE 225,000.
I THINK MONEY WAS A FACTOR AND
THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF
MONEY.
THE MONEY THAT JANET
PROTASIEWICZ WAS ABLE TO RAISE
IN HER CAMPAIGN GOES FURTHER
BUYING MORE CAMPAIGN ADS.
SHE HAD WAY MORE POINTS THAN HE
DID.
HE ALWAYS STRUGGLED TO RAISE
MONEY.
JOHN RAISED TWICE AS MUCH MONEY
AS HE DID IN THE PRIMARY AND HE
NEVER PICKED IT UP IN THE
GENERAL, SO SHE HAD A HUGE
ADVANTAGE ON THE TYPES OF ADS
SHE COULD SEE BUY AND AT WHAT
RATE.
THINGS SEEMED A LITTLE BIT EQUAL
AS IT RELATED TO THIRD PARTIES,
BUT THOSE ADS ARE FAR MORE
EXPENSIVE AND THE CANDIDATE
DOESN'T CONTROL THOSE MESSAGES,
SO HE WAS OUTMANNED AND
OUT-MONEYED.
>> WAS IT ABOUT THE MONEY?
>> I THINK IT'S FOUR THINGS.
LET ME SAY THAT BILL REMINDS US,
YOU KNOW N-TALKING ABOUT KELLY'S
LAST LOSS, THAT SINCE 2016,
DEMOCRATS HAVE WON 15-OF-18
STATEWIDE ELECTIONS.
THIS IS A TREND.
THEY WON THE 2018 SUPREME COURT
SEAT, 55-TO-45, AND THEY WON THE
ONE IN 2020, THE SAME.
IT'S GONE FROM 110,000 TO
250,000 TO 200,000.
THE TRENDS ARE NOT RIGHT FOR THE
REPUBLICANS BOTH IN THE TURN-OUT
IN PLACES LIKE DAN COUNTY AND
MILWAUKEE COUNTY, INTLOW IN THE
WOW COUNTIES.
JANET PROTASIEWICZ WON THE CITY
OF WAUKESHA, THE PLACE WHERE
SCOTT WALKER HAD 73% IN 2014.
BUT, AGAIN, THE DEMOCRATS, THEY
HAVE THE MONEY, THEY HAVE THE
MESSAGE, THEY HAVE THE MACHINE,
AND THEY HAVE THE MOTIVATION AND
THAT'S GOING TO WIN ELECTIONS.
>> WHAT KIND OF A WAKE-UP CALL
IS THIS FOR REPUBLICANS?
ARE REPUBLICANS NOW ON THE WRONG
SIDE OF THE BARK ISSUE PLOTICAL?
>> THEY'RE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF
THE ISSUE.
THERE WERE THREE STATE
REFERENDUM ON THE BALLOT TWO.
RELATED TO BAIL, CASH BAIL.
ONE PASSED WITH 67%.
THE OTHER HAD 68%.
THEN THERE WAS A REFERENDUM
QUESTION ADVISORY ON ABLE-BODIED
CHILDLESS ADULTS WORKING.
THAT PATH WITH 80%.
ALL 72 COUNTIES VOTED FOR THOSE
THREE REFERENDUM, INCLUDING DANE
AND MILWAUKEE.
WE'RE RIGHT ON THE ISSUES.
WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB ON
CANDIDATE SCREENING.
>> YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WIN A
STATE-WIDE ISSUE ON ANY OF THE
THREE THINGS HE'S TALKING ABOUT,
BUT ON ABORTION IT'S GOING TO
BECAUSE IT HITS PEOPLE HARD.
IT'S NOW A DISQUALIFY -- TO BE
ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE IN
STATEWIDE ELECTIONS IS
DISQUALIFYING.
IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS, SAVE
FOR ONE.
SAVE FOR RON JOHNSON.
NOT ONLY IS IT TOXIC IN PLACES
LIKE DANE COUNTY AND MILWAUKEE,
BUT JANET WON THE THIRDS
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, THE
FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT
SOUNDLY.
SHE WON IN PLACES LIKE THE
FRENCH QUARTER, EAU CLAIRE AND
LACROSSE, 64% IN BOTH OF THOSE
COUNTIES.
REPUBLICANS ARE IN A LOT OF
TROUBLE IF THEY DON'T CHANGE.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO.
>> KELLY LET PROTASIEWICZ DEFINE
HIS POSITION ON ABORTION.
VOTERS NEVER KNEW WHAT HIS
POSITION WAS ON ABORTION IF
YOU'RE GOING TO BE PRO-LIFE,
THAT'S FINE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE
PROACTIVE.
YOU CAN'T LET YOUR OPPONENT
DEFINE YOU ON ISSUES SUCH AS
THAT AND IT WAS A HUGE PROBLEM
FOR KELLY, NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
>> SCOTT, DOES THIS KIND OF
SPELL THE TURN FROM THE SCOTT
WALKER ERA?
>> WITHOUT A DOUBT, ABSOLUTELY,
100%.
GIVEN WHERE THE REPUBLICANS ARE
ON ABORTION, AND GIVEN WHERE THE
PUBLIC IS AND HOW THEY SEE THE
SUPREME COURT BEING THAT A TO B
LINE, BECAUSE THE OVERTURNING OF
THE 1849 BAN WHEN IT HAPPENS,
THAT'S GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN
THE SUPREME COURT ELECTIONS FROM
NOW UNTIL THE NEXT 10 YEARS SO
WE'VE GOT ONE'S UP IN 25, TWO
REPUBLICANS UP IN 26 AND 27.
AFTER 27, DEMOCRATS COULD IN
THEORY HAVE SIX OF THE SEVEN
SUPREME COURT SEATS.
>> WE SORT OF RUN THROUGH
WALKER-BACKED CANDIDATES WITH
REBECCA CLAY FISH AND NOW DANIEL
KELLY, BUT NOW HIS POLICIES ARE
GOING TO BE UP FOR GRABS IN THE
NEW SUPREME COURT.
WHEN JANET PROTASIEWICZ GETS
INVESTED IN AUGUST, THERE'S TWO
YEARS WHERE PROGRESSIVES WILL
HAVE FULL CONTROL OR THE
MAJORITY ON THE WISCONSIN
SUPREME COURT AND A LOT OF HIS
POLICIES MIGHT BE ON THE LINE.
>> BILL, SCOTT WALKER SAYS THAT
UW MADISON HELPED DANE COUNTY'S
NUMBERS BECAUSE HE SAYS, QUOTE,
LIBERALS ARE INDOCTRINATING
YOUNG PEOPLE AND TURNING THEM
OUT TO VOTE.
WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?
>> MY RESPONSE IS DANE COUNTY
HAS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR
REPUBLICANS FOR 20 YEARS.
WE FINALLY HAVE NEW LEADERSHIP.
NAPOLI IS GOING TO DO A VERY
GOOD JOB.
I'M ENCOURAGED BY THE NEW
LEADERSHIP IN DANE COUNTY, BUT
WE'RE A WAYS BEHIND WHERE
DEMOCRATS ARE.
THEY HAVE FIGURED OUT THAT THEY
CAN HARVEST MORE VOTES HERE IN
DANE COUNTY THAN ANY OTHER
COUNTY IN THE STATE AND BUILD UP
A MASSIVE ADVANTAGE.
JANET PROTASIEWICZ HAD 153,000
VOTE ADVANTAGE JUST IN DANE
COUNTY.
IT'S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO
FIX IT FOR REPUBLICANS.
MESSAGE MATTERS, CANDIDATES
MATTER, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE
SOME TIME.
>> JANET WON 12 COUNTIES THAT
HAVE UW CAMPUSES.
THE REASON THAT PEOPLE AREN'T
VOTING IS BECAUSE SCOTT WALKER
WANTS TO RAISE MONEY FOR ITS NEW
OPERATION.
IT'S BECAUSE REPUBLICANS ARE
WRONG ON THE ISSUES OF ABORTION,
TRANSGENDER, RIGHTS, VOTING,
EDUCATION ALL ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> A MINUTE LEFT.
WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS FOR
2024?
>> THE IMPLICATIONS ARE THAT
WHAT'S HIS NAME DERIC VAN HORTON
AND BRIAN STYLE BETTER WATCH OUT
BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY
MIGHT BE GOING OUT IF D.C.
INVESTS IN WISCONSIN ELECTIONS,
WE'RE GOING TO WIN.
WE'VE PROVEN IT TIME AND TIME
AGAIN.
YOU PUT THE MONEY IN, WE GET THE
RIGHT CANDIDATES, WE WIN THE
ELECTIONS.
>> TOO SOON TO TELL.
WE NEED A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE AT
THE TOP OF THE TICKET OTHER THAN
DONALD TRUMP IF WE WANT TO WIN
IN THE SUNBURNS.
YOU EVER TO WIN THE BOW AND THE
WOW COUNTIES.
JANET PROTASIEWICZ WON ALL THREE
OF THE BOW COUNTIES AND SHE CUT
THE 345R7B8GS IN THE WOW
SIGNIFICANTLY.
WE NEED A DIFFERENT CANDIDATE AT
THE TOP OF THE TICKET.
AT THE LEGISLATIVE LEVEL, JUST
KEEP PASSING PROACTIVE POLICIES
THAT VOTERS RESPOND TO AND I
THINK THAT FORMULA WORKS.
>> 27 COUNTIES SHE WON INCLUDING
SOUTHWEST AND SOUTH CENTRAL PART
OF THE STATE, 27 COUNTIES.
>> WE NEED TO LEAVE IT THERE.