>> Frederica: FOLLOWING
TUESDAY'S PRIMARY ELECTION, TWO
CANDIDATES FOR THE WISCONSIN
SUPREME COURT HEAD INTO
CAMPAIGNING FOR THE GENERAL
ELECTION SET FOR APRIL 4.
MILWAUKEE COUNTY CIRCUIT JUDGE
WON 45% AND DANNY KELLY GARNERED
24.2%.
THEY EACH SPOKE AT THE ELECTION
NIGHT PARTIES FOCUSSING ON THE
TOPICS AND LIKELY TO COME BEFORE
THE COURT, ABORTION.
>> I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW I'LL
RULE IN ANY CASE BUT THROUGHOUT
THIS CASE I HAVE BEEN ABSOLUTELY
CLEAR ABOUT WHAT MY VALUES ARE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE
VOTERS OF THIS STATE DESERVE TO
KNOW WHAT A CANDIDATE'S VALUES
ARE.
I VALUE A WOMAN'S FREEDOM TO
MAKE HER OWN REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH
CARE DECISIONS.
>> IT'S GOING TO BE AN ELECTION
LIKE NO OTHER.
TONIGHT WE JOIN THE FIGHT TO
PRESERVE OUR CONSTITUTIONAT
FORMS OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST A
NOVEL AND GRAVE THREAT.
THE PROMISE TO SET ASIDE OUR LAW
AND OUR CONSTITUTION WHETHER
THEY CONFLICT WITH HER PERSONAL
VALUES CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO
STAND.
>> Frederica: THY THE HIGH STAKE
RACE GETS MORE ATTENTION FROM
HERE.
WE TURN TO SENIOR POLITICAL
REPORTER ZAC SCHULTZ WHO JOINS
US FROM THE STATE CAPITOL WITH
MORE.
WAS THIS THE PRIMARY ELECTION
OUTCOME EXPECTED?
>> I DON'T THINK YOU CAN BE TOO
SURPRISED.
CERTAINLY NOT ON THE LIBERAL
SIDE.
JANET HAD THE MOST MONEY AND
FIRST COMMERCIAL AND
CONSOLIDATED A LOT OF DEMOCRATIC
SUPPORT AROUND HER CAMPAIGN
EARLY ON.
THE OTHER LIBERAL JUDGE EVERETT
MITCHELL TRIED HARD TO GET
SUPPORT AND HAD A FEW PEOPLE BUT
NEVER HAD THE MONEY TO GET HIS
NAME OUT THERE.
SEEING JANET ADVANCE IS NOT
SURPRISING.
MAYBE THE MARGINS FOR SOME MAY
HAVE BEEN SURPRISING.
ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE WE KNEW
IT WOULD BE A CLOSE MARGIN.
AND IT GOES AGAINST YOUR
CONVENTIONAL THINKING BUT THE
OUTCOME MAY FIT THOUGH JENNIFER
DOROW MAY HAVE BEEN PREFERRED
AHEAD OF TIME AND WE SAW OUTSIDE
INTEREST GROUPS AND OTHERS TRY
TO TAKE HER DOWN AND GETTING THE
SAME RESULT OF ADVANCING DANIEL
KELLY BECAUSE HE WANTED TO WIN.
ON THE LIBERALS' PART BECAUSE
THEY THOUGHT HE WOULD BE A
BETTER MATCH-UP IN THE GENERAL
ELECTION.
THIS OUTCOME IS NOT TERRIBLY
SURPRISING AND THE MARGIN IS SO
NARROW IT CAME DOWN TO THE END.
>> Frederica: TUESDAY'S ELECTION
SAW RECORD TURNOUT FOR SUPREME
COURT PRIMARY.
WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE ACROSS THE
STATE?
>> IT VARIED ACROSS THE REGIONS.
IN SOME PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN
MORE POPULOUS AREAS THERE WAS
HIGH TURNOUT IN THE NORTHWEST
CORNER LOWER TURNOUT AND SOME
FITS WITH THE THINK HOW THE
CAMPAIGNS WORK.
WE'RE TALKING FEBRUARY 21,
MIDDLE OF WINTER.
GENERALLY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF
ATTENTION PAID AND IT'S DRIVEN
BY ADVERTISING.
HOW MUCH DID PEOPLE EVEN KNOW
THAT ONE, THERE WAS AN ELECTION,
AND TWO, IT WAS THIS IMPORTANT.
IT'S HARDER TO PENETRATE
NORTHERN WISCONSIN WITH
ADVERTISING DOLL THE WAY YOU CAN
BLANKET SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN AND
OTHER COUNTIES.
AND IN MADISON YOU HAD A
CONTESTED MAYORAL PRIMARY.
N NORTHERN MILWAUKEE YOU HAD A
CONTESTED PRIMARY REPUBLICAN
SIDE FOR A SPECIAL ELECTION IN A
SENATE DISTRICT.
ALL THOSE THINGS ARE DROVE
TURNOUT IN MORE POPULOUS
REGIONS.
>> Frederica: DID ANYTHING STAND
OUT IN PARTISAN VOTING PATTERNS?
>> THERE'S A SPLIT ACROSS THE
STATE IN REPUBLICAN VOTING
TRENDS.
WE'VE SEEN THIS TIME AND TIME
AGAIN OVER THE PAST 10 TO 15
YEARS WHERE SOUTHEASTERN
WISCONSIN ESPECIALLY WHERE
SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN TALK RADIO
DOMINATES HAS A DIFFERENT
OPINION WHO NAY THEY FAVOR IN A
PRIMARY VERSUS OUTSIDE RURAL
WISCONSIN AND USED TO BE
SOUTHEAST WISCONSIN WAS ENOUGH
TO DOMINATE.
THAT'S HOW SCOTT WALKER WON TO
BECOME THE GOVERNOR AND HOW
REBECCA CLAYFISH BECAME GOVERNOR
AND IT'S SHIFTED AND BEEN
PLAYING OUT MORE AND MORE THE
REST OF THE STATE, OUTSTATED
RURAL WISCONSIN FOR REPUBLICANS
CAN OUTNUMBER SOUTHEASTERN
WISCONSIN.
WE SAW JENNIFER DOROW'S AREA OF
SUPPORT WAS STRONG BUT WAS BEAT
HANDILY IN THE REST OF THE STATE
AND WON BY A COUPLE PERCENTAGE
POINTS.
>> Frederica: FORMER JUSTICE
LOST HIS LOST ELECTION FOR
SUPREME COURT.
IS HE VULNERABLE HERE?
>> DEMOCRATS CERTAINLY THINK SO.
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE.
BUT IN REALITY WE'VE SEEN LOTS
OF CANDIDATES HISTORICALLY
ACROSS WISCONSIN RUN AFTER
LOSING AN ELECTION AND TRY
AGAIN.
THE MESSAGE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT
WIN THE SECOND TIME IS NOT THAT
THEY LOST AN ELECTION BUT PEOPLE
KNOW WHAT THEIR VULNERABILITIES
ARE BECAUSE THEY POLLED AGAINST
HIM IN THE PAST.
IN THIS CASE DANIEL KELLY WILL
SAY HE LOST BECAUSE BERNIE
SANDERS AND JOE BIDEN HAD A
CONTESTED PRIMARY AND DONALD
TRUMP WASN'T CONTEST AND SAYS
HATS THE MAJORITY OF THE MARGIN.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT RATE.
WE SHOULDN'T LOOK AT THAT AS THE
ROAD MAP BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES.
>> Frederica: IS THERE THE SAME
INFIGHTING IN THE PARTY BETWEEN
DOROW AND KELLY?
>> THAT REMAINS TO BE SEEN AND
SOMETHING REPUBLICANS ARE
WATCHING AND DEMOCRATS WOULD
LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IF
THEY CAN.
WE SAW A SIMILAR THING PLAY OUT
LONG THE SAME LINES LAST SUMMER
WHEN TIM MICHAELS WON THE
GUBERNATORIAL PRIMARY AND
ATTACKING CLAYFISH HEAVILY AND
SHE AND HER SUPPORTERS WEREN'T
HAPPY AND THERE WASN'T THE
UNIFYING MOMENT THAT CAME
AFTERWARDS.
THIS TIME WE SAW DANIEL KELLY
SAYING HE WOULD NOT SUPPORT
JENNIFER DOROW IF SHE WAS THE
ONE TO ADVANCE.
HE REFUSED TO ENDORSE HER AND
DOROW SAID SHE WOULD ENDORSE
KELLY AND SAID REPUBLICANS NEED
TO UNIFY BUT THERE ARE SOME
SUPPORTERS STILL MIFFED THAT
KELLY WOULDN'T SUPPORT THEIR
PERSON GOING FORWARD WHETHER
THAT FRACTURE MAINTAINS AND
EXISTS OR IF REPUBLICAN PARTIES
WANT TO MAINTAIN THE APRIL 4
PRIMARY IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN
FRACTURES THAT EXISTED BEFORE
AND SOMETHING TO BE AWARE OF
GOING FORWARD.
>> Frederica: SPENDING IN THIS
RACE IS EXPECTED TO BE
STRATOSPHERIC.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROJECTIONS
ARE AND WHO'S GIVING?
>> WE'RE LOOKING AT LEAST $20
MILLION TO $40 MILLION AND A LOT
OF OUT STATE AND SPECIAL