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>>> THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE
DON'T FEEL THAT THE ELECTION WAS
CERTIFIABLE, THEREFORE, THE
REQUEST TO DECERTIFY IS ON THE
TABLE, AND IT SHOULDN'T TAKE AN
ACTION.
>> SO REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE FOR
GOVERNOR AND STATE
REPRESENTATIVE, TIM RAMTHUN,
CONTINUES TO CALL ON THE
LEGISLATURE TO DECERTIFY THE
2020 ELECTION.
NOW, THAT IS REGARDED AS A LEGAL
IMPOSSIBILITY, BUT THE FALLOUT
FROM THE LAST ELECTION CONTINUES
TO ROYAL WISCONSIN AND IN ALL
THE WAYS WE KNOW.
THE GABLEMAN INVESTIGATION,
STATE SUPREME COURT RULINGS ON
DROP BOXES AND CALLS TO ABOLISH
THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION, AND
NOW THERE'S MORE THAT PROMPTED
AND EMERGENCY MEETING OF
COMMISSIONERS THURSDAY NIGHT.
SOMEONE AT THE EPICENTER OF
THIS, FORMER CHAIR OF THE
WISCONSIN ELECTIONS COMMISSION
AND DEMOCRAT, ANN JACOBS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
HERE.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING
ME.
>> SO WHAT CAME TO LIGHT THIS
WEEK IS THE TWO PEOPLE TRYING TO
PROVE ELECTION FRAUD
VULNERABILITIES ADMITTED TO
COMMITTING FRAUD BY REQUESTING
ABSENTEE BALLOTS IN OTHER
PEOPLE'S NAMES INCLUDING ROBIN
VOS.
AS AN ELECTION COMMISSIONER,
WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?
>> I'M ASTONISHED AT THE FACT
THAT PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT AND
INTENTIONALLY COMMITTING
ELECTION CRIMES AND PRETENDING
THEY ARE DOING IT TO SOMEHOW
PROVE FRAUD IN AN ELECTION.
WHAT THEY DID BROKE THE LAW, AND
THEY SHOULD BE PROSECUTED.
>> AND SO I KNOW THAT THE
ELECTIONS COMMISSION VOTED TO
PUT OUT FLIERS AHEAD OF THE
PRIMARY, KIND OF WARNING CLERKS
AND OTHERS ABOUT THIS.
WHAT MORE SPECIFICALLY DO YOU
WANT, AND HOW SOON?
>> WELL, WHAT WE WANT IS PEOPLE
TO STOP DOING THIS, AND WE THINK
LAW ENFORCEMENT SHOULD STOP
ENCOURAGING IT.
WHAT WE DID INDICATE WAS WE
WOULD SEND POSTCARDS TO PEOPLE
WHO HAD THEIR ABSENTEE BALLOTS
SENT TO AN ADDRESS OTHER THAN
THE HOME ADDRESS, HOME
REGISTRATION ADDRESS, TO ENSURE
THERE'S NOT THIS MONKEY BUSINESS
GOING AROUND ELSEWHERE.
WE ALSO DID NOTIFY CLERKS THAT
THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO REFER
CASES OF FRAUD, WHICH WOULD
INCLUDE CASES LIKE WHAT WE ARE
DISCUSSING, TO THEIR LOCAL
DISTRICT ATTORNEY IF THEY FIND
IT, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO USE THE MY
VOTE WEBSITE TO CHECK THEIR OWN
ABSENTEE BALLOT STATUS.
>> GREAT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF CALLS FROM
TIM RAMTHUN AND DONALD TRUMP TO
DECERTIFY THE 2020 ELECTION IN
WISCONSIN?
>> ELECTIONS ARE NOT ABOUT
FEELINGS.
ELECTIONS ARE ABOUT NUMBERS.
IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN, WE
HAD AN ACCURATE, PROPERLY
TALLIED RECOUNTED ELECTION WHERE
DONALD TRUMP LOST BY 20,000
VOTES.
IN COMPARISON, IN 2016, WE HAD
AN ACCURATELY TALLIED, RECOUNTED
VOTE WHERE DONALD TRUMP WON BY
20,000 VOTES.
SAME ELECTION ADMINISTRATION.
SAME ELECTION OFFICIALS.
SAME RULES.
SOMETIMES VOTERS CHANGE THEIR
MINDS.
TELLING PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE FEEL
THE ELECTION WASN'T FAIR AND
ACCURATE SIMPLY REINFORCES THE
INCORRECT POSITION OUR ELECTIONS
WAS ANYTHING BUT ACCURATE.
>> FALSE PUBLIC ELECTORS LIKE
ONE OF YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS
ARE ON THE RADAR OF FEDERAL
INVESTIGATORS.
WHY DID THE COMMISSION, THOUGH,
UNANIMOUSLY VOTE NOT TO SANCTION
THEM?
>> THE DECISION OF THE
COMMISSION, I THINK, IS BEST
ARTICULATED IN THE MEMO GIVEN BY
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE THAT
WAS INCORPORATED INTO OUR
DECISION, AND IT WAS ON THAT
BASIS THAT THE COMMISSION MADE
THAT DECISION.
NOW, RECALL THAT THE COMMISSION
DID THAT WITH COMMISSIONER
SITTING IN ON IT, AND SINCE THE
LAWSUIT WAS FILED, HE'S NOW
AGREED TO RESCUE HIMSELF FROM
FUTURE DISCUSSING OF IT, AND
THERE'S NOW AN ACTION IN CIRCUIT
COURT TO RETURN THE
INVESTIGATION TO THE COMMISSION
FOR FURTHER EVALUATION.
WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS A
LOT OF THE RECENT INFORMATION WE
RECEIVE ON THE FALSE ELECTORS
CAME OUT AFTER THE COMMISSION'S
DECISION.
>> THERE HAVE BEEN CALLS TO
ABOLISH THE ELECTIONS
COMMISSION.
WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?
>> WELL, THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT
THE WISCONSIN LEGISLATURE DOES
EVERY TIME SOMEONE THEY DON'T
LIKE WINS.
WE STARTED OUT WITH THE
SECRETARY OF STATE, AND THEY DID
NOT LIKE HOW THAT PERSON HAD THE
ELECTION, SO THEY CREATED A
STATE ELECTION BOARD.
THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT, SO THEY
CREATED THE GOVERNMENT
ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.
THEY DIDN'T LIKE HOW THE
GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD
WORKED SO THEY CREATED THE
ELECTIONS COMMISSION, AND NOW
THAT THE ELECTIONS COMMISSION,
WHICH REQUIRES BIPARTISAN
APPROVAL OF ALL OF ITS ACTIONS,
NOW THAT THEY DON'T LIKE THE
ELECTIONS COMMISSION BECAUSE
DONALD TRUMP LOST, THEY WANT TO
GO BACK TO A SECRETARY OF STATE.
>> HOW CAN I GET TO THIS WITH A
MINUTE LEFT?
WHAT EFFECT, IN YOUR MIND, DOES
ALL OF THIS, ALL OF THIS TALK OF
DECERTIFY CASES OF ELECTIONS,
AND LAW CHANGES HAVE ON THE
AVERAGE VOTER AND THE CLERKS?
>> WELL, ON THE CLERKS, IT'S
MADE THEM -- THEY HAVE BEEN
ACCUSED OF MALFEASANCE AND
PHYSICAL AND VERBAL THREATS MADE
AGAINST THEM.
THAT NEEDS TO STOP.
FOR THE AVERAGE VOTER, GO VOTE.
YOUR VOTE WILL COUNT.
THE VOTE IS ACCURATE.
IT IS SAFE.
WE WANT YOU TO GET OUT THERE AND
VOTE.
WE HAVE AN ELECTION COMING UP IN
AUGUST.
ANOTHER ONE IN NOVEMBER.
LET'S GO VOTE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
ANN JACOBS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH