JUDGE REMINGTON, I'M NOT GOING
TO BE RAILROADED.
>> A MONTH AGO NEWS LEAKED THE
U.S. SUPREME COURT WAS PLANNING
TO OVERTURN ROE V. WADE ENDING
THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTION
OF A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO ABORTION.
THAT FINAL DECISION IS EXPECTED
TO BE RELEASED SOMETIME THIS
MONTH AND ABORTION ADVOCATES
AND EXPERTS ARE PREPARING FOR A
POST ROWE LANDSCAPE.
TIFFANY GREEN, ASSISTANT
PROFESSOR FROM THE POPULATION
OF HEALTH SCIENCES AT
UW-MADISON.
WE DON'T GET THIS ADVANCE
NOTICE ON SUCH A MONUMENTAL
RULING FROM THE COURT.
HOW HAVE SPORTERS AND
RESEARCHERS BEEN USING THE LAST
MONTH?
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
GROUND THE CONVERSATION IN THE
IDEA THAT MANY OF US WHO
RESEARCH THIS TOPIC AND THOSE
WHO ARE ABORTION ADVOCATES AND
REPRODUCTIVE SUPPORTERS KNEW
THIS DAY WAS COMING A LONG TIME
AGO WHEN WE SAW THE COMPOSITION
OF THE COURT CHANGE AND THE
FACT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE IN
THE UNITED STATES THAT HAVE
BEEN LIVING IN A POST REAL
WORLD FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
STATES HAVE BEEN CHIPPING AWAY
AT ABORTION ACCESS, INCLUDING
TRAP LAWS WHICH IMPOSE
DIFFERENT KINDS OF STANDARDS ON
PROVIDERS FOR ABORTIONS THAT
WOULD BE PROVIDED FOR THOSE
WITH A SIMILAR MEDICAL
PROCEDURE.
WE HAVE MANDATORY WAITING
PERIODS WHICH IMPOSE 24, 48 AND
SOMETIMES 72 HOUR WAITING
PERIODS FOR ABORTIONS MAKING
PEOPLE GO FOR MORE THAN ONE
VISIT.
ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE ERODED
ACCESS TO ABORTION, IN ADDITION
TO MANY CLINICS CLOSING.
ALTHOUGH THE RULE WOULD BE
DEVASTATING MANY PEOPLE IN THE
UNITED STATES HAVE BEEN LIVING
IN A POST ROW WORLD FOR A VERY
LONG TIME.
>> YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO
RESEARCH.
IF WISCONSIN'S CLINICS ARE
FORCED TO GO AND WE GO BACK TO
THE 1849 LAW ON THE BOOK THAT
WOULD ELIMINATE ALL ABORTION IN
WISCONSIN, MINNESOTA AND
ILLINOIS WOULD STILL HAVE
CLINICS.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR PEOPLE
WHO NEED TO TRAVEL FURTHER TO
OBTAIN THAT HEALTHCARE?
>> SURE.
THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF
SCHOLARS INCLUDING THOSE AT
WISCONSIN, FORMER GRADUATE
STUDENT AND PROFESSOR WHO HAVE
DONE WORK IN THE SERIES SHOWING
DISTANCE IS A KEY INDICATOR OF
HOW PEOPLE'S ACCESS THE
ABORTION.
IT MAKES IT HARDER TO GET
ABORTIONS.
SO WHAT WILL PEOPLE DO?
ONE, PEOPLE IN THE NORTH OF OUR
STATE HAVE ALWAYS HAD A
CHALLENGE GETTING ABORTIONS.
MOST OF THE CLINICS ARE IN OUR
NECK OF THE WOODS IN MADISON
AND MILWAUKEE.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM.
I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL GO TO
ILLINOIS WHERE THE LAWS ARE
VERY DIFFERENT GOVERNING ACCESS
TO ABORTION.
FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE UNABLE TO
CROSS THE BORDER OR PEOPLE THAT
ARE UNABLE TO GET TO OTHER
STATES, I THINK IT IS GOING TO
BE A REAL CHALLENGE TO GET AN
ABORTION GIVEN THAT WE ALSO
HAVE A NUMBER OF SYSTEMS THAT
PROVIDE HEALTHCARE FOR PEOPLE
WITH THE CAPACITY TO GET
PREGNANT AND THEY DON'T PROVIDE
THAT VITAL SERVICE.
SO I THINK IT IS A PROBLEM NOW
AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO BE A
CHALLENGE AFTER THE FALL OF ROE.
>> WE USE THE BROAD TERM OF
WOMAN BUT THERE IS A LOT OF
SUBGROUPS WITHIN THAT CATEGORY.
ECONOMIC, RACIAL, ALL OTHER
CATEGORIES.
WHO IS AFFECTED THE MOST?
>> I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THEY
RECOGNIZE NOT JUST SIS MEN AND
THEY HAVE HARDER ACCESS TO THIS
SERVICE.
I WANT TO SAY THAT.
BUT ESSENTIALLY PEOPLE THAT
HAVE RESOURCES ARE GOING TO
LIKELY BE ABLE TO GET ABORTIONS.
NOT TO SAY THEY NEVER HAVE
CHALLENGES.
THE PEOPLE THAT WILL NEED AND
MOST AFFECTED ARE THOSE THAT
ARE POOR AND ESSENTIAL WORKERS,
THOSE THAT HAVE TOUGH WORK
SCHEDULES THAT AREN'T ABLE TO
GET OUT OF IT.
THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE RESOURCES.
YOU KNOW, AND THEY ARE BECAUSE
OF THE WAY OUR SOCIETY IS
STRUCTURED THOSE PEOPLE WILL
BEING BLACK, BROWN, INDIGENOUS
AND THOSE DISPARITIES WILL BE
EXACERBATED.
>> WHAT IT DOES TO A WOMAN'S
ABILITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE
WORKFORCE, GET AN EDUCATION AND
GET OUT OF POVERTY.
IS THAT LOST IN WHAT WE HEAR AT
THE CONGRESSIONAL LEVEL?
>> WHAT WE GET CAUGHT UP IS
TRYING TO PARSE PEOPLE'S
REASONS FOR HAVING ABORTIONS.
I THINK AS A RESEARCHER, I CAN
KIND OF STEP BACK AND SAY OKAY,
REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU FEEL
ABOUT ABORTION ON A MORAL
LEVEL, WE HAVE VERY CLEAR
EVIDENCE THAT LIMITING ACCESS
TO ABORTION IMPACTS PREGNANT
PEOPLE'S HEALTH AND WELL-BEING
AND THEIR ECONOMIC OUTCOME.
THIS IS JUST A FACT, RIGHT?
THAT'S -- WE CAN DEBATE ABOUT
THE MORALITY OF ABORTION, BUT
THE EFFECTS OF ABORTION OR
LIMITING ACCESS HAVE BEEN VERY
WELL ESTABLISHED AND AS WE SAID
THEY CAN LEAD TO ADVERSE
FINANCIAL OUTCOMES, THEY CAN
LEAD TO POOR PREGNANCY-RELATED
OUTCOMES.
THOSE OUTCOMES ARE EXACERBATED
AMONG BLACK AND INDIGENOUS
PEOPLE SO THERE HAVE BEEN
STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT LAWS
THAT LIMIT ACCESS TO ABORTION
CAN INCREASE LEVELS OF PRE-TERM
BIRTHS, DEBT FROM CONGENITAL
ABNORMALITIES AMONG BLACK
INFANTS AND BLACK WOMEN.
SO THIS -- THAT'S NOT DEBATABLE.
THE SCIENCE IS ALWAYS EVOLVING
AND GROWING BUT THE FACT THAT
WE HAVE A VERY ROBUST BODY OF
EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THERE ARE
NEGATIVE IMPLICATIONS TO
RESTRICTING ABORTION IS NOT
NEWLY DEBATABLE.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR