CAPITOL AND FBI REPORTS OF
POSSIBLE ATTACKS ON STATE AND
FEDERAL BUILDINGS AROUND THE
COUNTRY LED GOVERNOR TONY EVERS
TO CALL UP THE NATIONAL GUARD TO
PROTECT THE STATE CAPITOL OVER
THE NEXT SEVERAL DAYS.
HE ALSO ORDERED GROUND FLOOR
WINDOWS AT THE CAPITOL BOARDED
UP AGAINST THE THREAT OF
VIOLENCE.
THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY
MANAGEMENT IN DANE COUNTY SAYS
PEOPLE SHOULD TAKE THE
POSSIBILITY OF THIS KIND OF
ATTACK SERIOUSLY.
CHARLES TUBBS IS ALSO AN
INSTRUCTOR FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF
HOMELAND SECURITY AND THE FORMER
CHIEF OF THE WISCONSIN STATE
CAPITOL POLICE.
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> SO THE FBI TODAY SAID THAT
THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE
POTENTIAL FOR VIOLENCE AT STATE
CAPITOL BUILDINGS WHERE RALLIES,
THEY SAY, MIGHT BRISK IN ARMED
PROTESTORS.
WHAT IS THE LATEST THAT YOU CAN
TELL US FROM HERE IN WISCONSIN?
>> WELL, WE'RE TAKING THE
THREATS VERY SERIOUS AND
PLANNING FOR THE ABSOLUTE WORST,
PRAYING FOR THE BEST, WHILE AT
THE SAME TIME WE'RE PREPARING
OURSELVES TO DEAL WITH THE
SITUATION AT HAND AND TRY TO
REDUCE ANY TYPE OF INJURIES OR
PROPERTY DAMAGE OR ANY
SITUATIONS OF THAT NATURE.
AT THIS TIME WE CURRENTLY HAVE
THE INFORMATION THAT'S BEEN
SHARED BY THE FBI AND HAS BEEN
LOOKED AT AND DISCUSSED WITH
EMERGENCY RESPONDERS AND OTHER
PEOPLE INVOLVED.
AT THIS TIME WE DO NOT HAVE A
SPECIFIC THREAT ON A SPECIFIC
LOCATION OTHER THAN THE STATE
CAPITOLS.
BUT WE'RE TAKING THE POSITION
THAT WE'RE GOING TO PROTECT THE
ENTIRE DANE COUNTY AREA AND NOT
ONLY PROTECT THE ENTIRE DANE
COUNTY AREA, BUT THE ENTIRE
STATE.
>> WOW.
WELL, I KNOW THAT SOME RALLIES
ARE PLANNED FOR SUNDAY, KIND OF
MIDDAY.
THERE IS A RALLY FOR JACOB BLAKE
AND THEN THERE IS A RALLY OF
TRUMP SUPPORTERS AND THEY KIND
OF INTERSECT IN THEIR TIMES.
AND SO HOW WELL FORTIFIED ARE
POTENTIAL TARGET SITES LIKE THE
CAPITOL IN MADISON, IF YOU CAN
TELL US?
>> WELL, THE CAPITOL, YOU KNOW,
WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY
6 WHERE THERE WAS NO RESPECT, NO
REGARD TAKEN FOR OUR UNITED
STATES CAPITOL.
THAT SITUATION WE RECOGNIZE CAN
HAPPEN ANYWHERE AT ANY GIVEN
TIME.
SO WE HAVE PUT TOGETHER A TEAM
AND WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER AS
AN ENTIRE COUNTY AND STATE
TOGETHER TO TRY TO MAKE SURE
THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THIS IS A REAL INCIDENT THAT
COULD HAPPEN HERE AND WE'RE
GOING TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO
AVOID THAT FROM HAPPENING WHILE
AT THE SAME TIME KEEPING THE
ENTIRE COMMUNITY SAFE IN DEALING
WITH THOSE TYPES OF SITUATIONS.
>> NOW, WISCONSIN HAS SEEN ONE
ARREST, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, OF AN
EAU CLAIRE MAN FOR BEING INSIDE
THE U.S. CAPITOL LAST WEEK.
FROM WHAT YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE
EXPECT MORE ARRESTS?
>> I BELIEVE WITHOUT DIVULGING
ANY INFORMATION, I BELIEVE THERE
COULD BE ADDITIONAL ARRESTS
INVOLVING PEOPLE FROM WISCONSIN.
>> YOU HAVE DESCRIBED TO ME YOUR
VERY REAL CONCERN ABOUT
WISCONSIN'S HOME-GROWN KIND OF
DOMESTIC TERRORISTS OR
EXTREMISTS.
DESCRIBE THAT.
WHY?
>> BECAUSE WITH OUR HOME-GROWN
TERRORISTS HAS BEEN GROWING OVER
THE YEARS AND A RECENT REPORT,
AREA OF CONCERN.
I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE SAW
RECENTLY ON CNN NEWS WHERE THEY
NAMED FIVE STATES AND WISCONSIN
WAS ONE OF THEM IN DEALING WITH
HOME-GROWN TERRORISTS AND
DEALING WITH PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T
ALWAYS RESPECT THE RULE OF LAW
AND PLAY BY THE SAME RULES THAT
YOU AND I AND OTHERS WOULD PLAY
BY.
IT'S A REAL CONCERN BECAUSE AT
TIMES SOME OF THESE GROUPS HAVE
NO RESPECT AND WILL DO JUST
ABOUT ANYTHING TO PROVE THEIR
POINT AND CARRY OUT THEIR
MISSION WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY
THINK THEY ARE AND HOW THEY CAN
BE ABOVE THE LAW.
>> AND YET AUTHORITIES TRACK
THESE PEOPLE, I TRUST, KNOW WHO
THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY ARE?
>> YES, THEY DO.
SOME OF THE DIFFICULTIES WITH
THAT, AUTHORITIES DO A REALLY
GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO TRACK THEM
AND STAY ON TOP OF IT, BUT
SOMETIMES IT'S JUST SMALL
GROUPS, SOMETIMES IT'S A ONE
LONER TYPE OF PERSON WHO
RESPONDS IN A VERY DESTRUCTIVE
WAY AND CAUSES GREAT BODILY HARM
AND DEATH TO PEOPLE.
SO IT'S A REALLY TOUGH THING TO
GET YOUR ARMS AROUND.
BUT IN THIS STATE WE'RE DOING
THE BEST AND A GREAT JOB OF
TRYING TO STAY ON TOP OF WHAT'S
GOING ON.
>> HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S VERY RECENT
MESSAGE CALLING FOR NO VIOLENCE
WILL HELP ANY OF THIS?
>> I THINK IT WILL HELP.
I REALLY DO.
SOMETIMES WHEN THE HORSE IS OUT
OF THE BARN, IT'S HARD TO PUT
THE HORSEBACK IN THE BARN.
BUT I'M PRAYING THAT HE HAS
TAKEN UP A BETTER ROAD, A HIGHER
ROAD, ON ADDRESSING THE ISSUES
THAT THE COUNTRY IS FACING RIGHT
NOW.
AND I'M PRAYING THAT PEOPLE WILL
LISTEN TO WHAT HE HAD TO SAY NOW
VERSUS WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ON THE
6TH.
THAT APPEARED TO BE NOT VERY
POSITIVE AT ALL, WHAT TOOK A
PLACE ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY.
SO OUR HOPES AND PRAYERS IS THAT
PEOPLE WILL LISTEN AND PEOPLE
WILL FOLLOW THOSE DIRECTIONS.
>> I REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT A
HALF A MINUTE LEFT, BUT AS THE
FORMER CHIEF OF THE WISCONSIN
CAPITOL POLICE, I WANT TO ASK
YOUR REACTION WHEN YOU SAW WHAT
WAS HAPPENING AT THE U.S.
CAPITOL ON THE 6TH.
>> I WAS DEVASTATED,
DISAPPOINTED, HEART-BROKEN,
SADDENED.
I FELT SAWFUL.
I WAS WATCHING ON 9/11 WHEN THE
TERRORIST ATTACKS HAPPENED IN
THS COUNTRY AND I HAD SOME OF
THE SAME EMPTY FEELINGS, JUST
LIKE THE REST OF AMERICA, AND
HOPING WE COULD GET OUR ARMS
AROUND THIS AND SOLVE THAT
PROBLEM IMMEDIATELY.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WISH WE HAD MORE TIME.
CHARLES TUBBS, THANK YOU AND
GOOD LUCK.
>> THANK YOU.
>> OUR DIGITAL REPORTER WILL
KENNEALLY WILL BE CLOSELY
MONITORING FALLOUT OF THE ATTACK
ON THE U.S. CAPITOL AS WELL AS
ANY THREATS OF VIOLENCE TO
PUBLIC BUILDINGS HERE IN
WISCONSIN.
YOU CAN FIND HIS REPORTING BY
GOING TO pbswisconsin.org AND