FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> HOW DO OTHER CONGRESSIONAL
REPUBLICANS SQUARE THE
PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION RESULTS?
AND WHAT ABOUT COVID RELIEF OUT
OF WASHINGTON?
WE TURN TO U.S. REPRESENTATIVE
TOM TIFFANY FROM THE 7TH
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN
NORTHWEST WISCONSIN.
HE JOINS US FROM WASHINGTON AND
THANKS VERY MUCH FOR DOING SO.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE, FREDERICA.
>> SO SENATOR JOHNSON TOLD A
CONSTITUENT HE KNEW THAT JOE
BIDEN HAD WON BUT HE SAID IT
WOULD BE PLAT POLITICAL SUICIDE TO
SAY SO PUBLICLY.
WHAT DO YOU SAY PLUCKILY?
>> I DID NOT SEE SENATOR'S
JOHNSONS SO I CAN'T COMMENT ON
HIS RACKS, BUT IT'S ALL PART OF
THE PROCESS AT THIS POINT.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA
AND GEORGIA, THERE'S QUESTIONS
WHETHER BALLOTS CAME OUT AT A
VERY LATE HOUR AND WERE COUNTED
THAT PERHAPS SHOULD NOT HAVE.
PENNSYLVANIA HAS A VERY
PROBLEMATIC SITUATION WHERE THEY
COUNTED BALLOTS AFTER THE
ELECTION DAY AND THAT CLEARLY
VIOLATES THE LAW IN
PENNSYLVANIA.
SO I THINK THERE'S CERTAINLY
ANOMALIES OUT THERE AND THE
PROCESS SHOULD BE WORKED THROUGH
HERE.
>> SO AT THIS JUNCTURE YOU'RE
NOT READY TO SAY THAT JOE BIDEN
IS PRESIDENT-ELECT?
>> NO.
NOT UNTIL THE PROCESS IS
COMPLETED AND THE ELECTORAL -- I
MEAN, WHO ESTABLISHES THE NEXT
PRESIDENT IS THE ELECTORAL
COLLEGE.
THEY HAVE NOT MET YET AND WE
HAVE NOT COMPLETED THAT PROCESS.
>> SO, AS YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE
KIND OF DISCUSSING THIS, THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN LAWSUITS ALLEGING
FRAUD AND ELECTION
IRREGULARITIES HAVE FALLEN
ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
THEY CONTINUE WENDING THEIR WAY
THROUGH WISCONSIN COURTS RIGHT
NOW.
IS IT YOUR POSITION THAT THE
ELECTION WAS RIGGED, AS THE
PRESIDENT SAYS, OR RIFE WITH
FRAUD AND OUGHT TO BE CHALLENGED
IN THIS WAY IN WISCONSIN?
>> I USED THE TERM ANOMALIES
EARLIER.
AND THAT CLEARLY HAPPENED AT A
MINIMUM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WHEN YOU SEE WINDOWS THAT ARE
BOARDED UP, I BELIEVE THAT WAS
IN PHILADELPHIA, POLL WATCHERS
BEING TOSSED OUT OF BEING ABLE
TO DO THEIR JOB, OF BEING ABLE
TO REVIEW BALLOTS, THERE'S
CERTAINLY CONCERNS THAT ARE
THERE.
I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE FOR ME,
THOUGH, I THINK IT'S TWOFOLD.
ONE IS THIS ACCEPTING BALLOTS
AFTER ELECTION DAY I DO NOT
BELIEVE SHOULD HAPPEN.
THE SECOND THING IS MAIL-IN
BALLOTS, WHICH ARE DIFFERENT
THAN THE ABSENTEE SYSTEM HERE IN
WISCONSIN.
MAIL-IN BALLOTS, I BELIEVE THAT
THAT NEEDS TO BE ENDED ALSO
BECAUSE AS PRESIDENT CARTER SAID
WHEN HE WAS COCHAIRMAN OF A
COMMISSION 15 YEARS AGO, IT
LEAVES THE POSSIBILITY FOR FRAUD
TO BE MUCH MORE RAMPANT.
>> MAIL-IN BALLOTS, ABSENTEE
BALLOTS ARE OFTEN MAILED IN IF
THEY ARE NOT DROPPED IN DROP
BOXES.
>> YEAH.
THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.
I THINK WISCONSIN'S ABSENTEE
SYSTEM WORKS BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO
REQUEST IT.
THE DIFFERENCE I SEE IS WHEN YOU
MAIL BALLOTS TO EVERYONE.
THAT'S WHAT PRESIDENT CARTER AND
THE COMMISSION HE CO-CHAIRED
TALKED ABOUT, IS IT LEAVES THE
POSSIBILITY FOR FRAUD TO BE
GREATER IN THAT SITUATION.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE.
>> ALL OF THIS DISCUSSION OF
FRAUD AND IRREGULAR LAIRTSZ, DO
YOU THINK IT DOES DAMAGE TO THE
CONFIDENCE OF THE U.S. ELECTORAL
SYSTEM?
>> I THINK POSSIBLY IT COULD.
BUT I THINK IT'S ALSO HEALTHY
FOR US TO REVIEW OUR
INSTITUTIONS.
AND IF THERE'S ONE THING THAT I
BELIEVE ABOUT DONALD TRUMP, EVER
SINCE HE CAME DOWN THAT
ESCALATOR AND ANNOUNCED HE WAS
GOING TO RUN FIVE YEARS AGO, HE
HAS LIFTED THE LID ON
INSTITUTIONS THAT WE'VE ALWAYS
HAD GREAT FAITH IN IN THIS
COUNTRY, INCLUDING LIKE THE FBI,
THE STATE DEPARTMENT.
AND WE'VE FOUND THAT THERE'S
SOME ROT IN THERE THAT NEEDS TO
BE CLEANED UP.
AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE SOME
INSTANCES WHERE OUR ELECTION
SYSTEM CAN DO BETTER, AND I
THINK HE'S HIGHLIGHTING THAT,
AND I THINK THAT'S HEALTHY FOR
OUR COUNTRY.
>> AS TO ELECTED OFFICIALS DOING
WORK IN WASHINGTON, THERE'S A
COVID RELIEF PACKAGE ON THE
TABLE, SOMETHING SHY OF $1
TRILLION.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SEE IN THAT
SPECIFICALLY AND WHAT DO YOU
THINK WISCONSIN NEEDS TO TAKE
FROM THAT?
>> THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT I
BELIEVE SHOULD BE IN THERE.
ONE IS LIABILITY PROTECTIONS.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS TO HAVE
TARGETED RELIEF FOR -- FOR
EXAMPLE, WE'VE BEEN PROMOTING
FOR THREE MONTHS TO DO THE
PAYCHECK PROTECTION EXTENSION
PLAN AUTHORED BY REPRESENTATIVE
OUT OF OHIO.
SPEAKER PELOSI REFUSES TO TAKE
THAT BILL UP.
IT TARGETS RELIEF TOWARD SOME
BUSINESS SECTORS THAT REALLY
NEED HELP, ESPECIALLY
HOSPITALITY, HOTELS,
RESTAURANTS.
SOME OF THEM ARE REALLY IN DIRE
SHAPE.
AND THERE IS A PLAN THERE TO BE
ABLE TO PASS THAT.
ONCE AGAIN NOW THIS WEEK, WE SAW
NOTHING HAPPENED UNDER THE
LEADER ER SHIP OF SPEAKER
PELOSI.
WE HAD A BILL IN REGARDS TO
TIGERS AND LEGALIZING MARIJUANA.
NOTHING TO GET RELIEF FOR THOSE
BUSINESSES THAT HAVE BEEN HURT
BECAUSE OF LOCKDOWNS THROUGH NO
FAULT OF THEIR OWN.
>> WE LOOK FORWARD TO SOME
POTENTIAL ACTION ON THAT NEXT
WEEK.
BUT REPRESENTATIVE TOM TIFFANY,
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR JOINING
US FROM