RECOUNTS ARE NOW UNDERWAY IN
DANE AND MILWAUKEE COUNTIES.
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN REQUESTED
THE PARTIAL RECOUNT THIS WEEK
IN COUNTIES THAT VOTE
OVERWHELMINGLY DEMOCRATIC.
THE 2016 PRESIDENTIAL RECOUNT
CHANGED RESULTS BY FEWER THAN
150 VOTES.
THIS TIME THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS
ALLEGING THE STAKES AND FRAUD
IN COUNTING AND RETURN OF VOTES
CAST IN THE STATE'S TWO MOST
POPULOUS COUNTIES.
WE CHECK IN NOW WITH WISCONSIN
PUBLIC RADIO CAPITOL BUREAU
CHIEF SHAWN JOHNSON.
NICE TO SEE YOU.
SO AS YOU KNOW, ALL EYES ON
WISCONSIN AND HERE IS A RUNDOWN
OF TRUMP CAMPAIGN ALLEGATIONS
IN ITS RECOUNT PETITION.
INCLUDING THAT CLERK CURED
BALLOTS.
NOT REQUESTING AN ABSENTEE
BALLOT IN WRITING CONTRAVENES
STATE LAW.
MORE THAN 200,000 PEOPLE VOTED
ABSENTEE WITHOUT VOTER I.D. AND
OBSERVERS IN MILWAUKEE COULDN'T
GET CLOSE ENOUGH.
RUNNING THE TABLE ON FRAUD IN
THE ELECTION PROCESS AND MADE
THOSE CHALLENGES TODAY AT THE
MILWAUKEE AND MADISON RECOUNT
SITES TRYING TO THROW OUT
200,000 PLUS BALLOTS.
HOW DOES THIS GET RESOLVED?
>> YOU COULD ONLY IMAGINE IT
PROBABLY GETS RESOLVED IN A
COURT SOMEWHERE, PROBABLY IN A
STATE COURT AND IN THE STATE
SUPREME COURT BECAUSE WHAT THEY
ARE DOING IS NOT LIKE A RECOUNT
LIKE YOU THINK OF WITH, YOU
KNOW, 2,000 IN FLORIDA WHERE
THEY'RE EXAMINING HANGING CHADS.
THEY'RE CHALLENGING THE ENTIRE
SYSTEM OF ABSENTEE BALLOTING
AND THE ADVICE THAT CLERKS HAVE
FOLLOWED FROM THE STATE
ELECTIONS COMMISSION ON HOW
THAT SYSTEM IS RUN.
ESSENTIALLY THEY'RE TRYING TO
UPEND THE WHOLE THING.
SO A COURT WILL PROBABLY HAVE
TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT.
>> I WOULD SAY.
COURTS COULD RULE, THEN, TO
THROW OUT THE VOTES AND FLIP
THE RESULTS AND CHANGE
WISCONSIN'S 10 ELECTORAL VOTES
TO TRUMP.
ARE WE GETTING AHEAD OF
OURSELVES BY TALKING ABOUT THAT
KIND OF THING?
>> ON THE ONE HAND YOU HEAR
WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND THINK
MAYBE WE SHOULDN'T GO THAT FAR,
RIGHT?
THAT'S NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
AND TYPICALLY RECOUNT IS KIND
OF -- WE HAD ONE FOUR YEARS AGO.
LET'S LET THE SYSTEM PLAY OUT.
ON THE OTHER HAND WHAT THE
TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS LOOKING TO DO
HERE IS THROW OUT JUST BROAD
SWATHS OF VOTES THAT WERE CAST
IN TWO COUNTIES THAT REALLY
DELIVERED WISCONSIN TO JOE
BIDEN.
AND SO IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL
IN COURT, THAT WOULD
NECESSARILY CHANGE THE OUTCOME
OF THE RACE DEPENDING ON HOW
MANY VOTES THEY END UP
CHALLENGING.
>> THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE
RECOUNT ARE THAT IT IS SUPPOSED
TO BE FINISHED BY DECEMBER 1st
AND CERTIFIED BY OUR ELECTIONS
COMMISSION.
THAT COULD ALL GO OUT THE
WINDOW, THOUGH, THAT KIND OF
TIMELINE.
WHAT THEN?
>> WHAT THEN IS PROBABLY
ANYBODY'S GUESS.
THAT'S SOMETHING WE HAVEN'T
BEEN THROUGH BEFORE.
IT IS SOMETHING THAT ELECTION
EXPERTS WERE KIND OF WARNING
ABOUT AHEAD OF THIS ELECTION.
THIS IDEA THAT WHAT IF THE
STATE CAN'T AGREE ON WHAT
ELECTORS TO SEND?
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF A BRIDGE
THAT WE HAVE TO CROSS WHEN WE
GET TO IT BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T
BEEN DOWN THAT ROAD BEFORE
WHERE INSTEAD OF STATE VOTERS
DECIDING WHO REPRESENTS THEM IN
THIS PROCESS, IT GETS DECIDED
BY WASHINGTON
>> WOW.
WELL, LET'S SWITCH BACK TO
WISCONSIN BECAUSE MEANWHILE IN
THE STATE LEGISLATURE
REPUBLICANS WERE PLANNING TO
HOLD THEIR OWN INVESTIGATION
INTO THIS ELECTION THIS WEEK.
HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ON THAT.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
>> SO JUST GOT AN EMAIL FROM
REPRESENTATIVE TUSSLER LEADING
THE INVESTIGATION IN THE
ASSEMBLY.
HE SAID THEY ARE INVESTIGATING
AS HE PUT IT.
THEY HAVEN'T MET YET BUT THEY
ARE INVESTIGATING THE ELECTION
AND THAT THEY WERE GOING TO
HOLD A MEETING ON THE 24th OF
NOVEMBER BUT HELD OFF AT THE
REQUEST OF THE ELECTIONS
COMMISSION UNTIL THE RECOUNT IS
DONE.
BUT THAT IS DEFINITELY MOVING
FORWARD.
>> INTERESTING.
THANK YOU FOR THAT UPDATE.
ALSO ON COVID AND COVID RELIEF
LEGISLATION, GOVERNOR EVERS AND
REPUBLICAN SPEAKER ROBIN VOS
MET TODAY.
WHAT DO WE KNOW WHETHER
ANYTHING MIGHT BE FORTHCOMING
FROM THAT?
>> WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT THEY
BOTH SAID NICE THINGS ABOUT THE
MEETING AND KIND OF SAID IT'S A
STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
BEYOND THAT WE DON'T KNOW MUCH.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE
GOVERNOR HAS TALKED ABOUT, WHAT
HE INTRODUCED THIS WEEK SOME OF
THE BIG PIECES OF HIS LATEST
COVID-19 BILL INCLUDE $540 PLUS
MILLION DOLLARS TO CONTINUE
TESTING CURRENTLY FUNDED BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
POTENTIAL BAN ON EVICTIONS.
SPEAKER VOSS HAS SAID THOSE ARE
NON-STARTERS WITH HIM.
WHEN IT COMES TO MITIGATION
EFFORTS, MASK MANDATE FOR
EXAMPLE GOVERNOR EVERS AND
REPUBLICANS ARE FAR APART ON
THAT, TOO.
THEY'RE MEETING BUT WE DON'T
KNOW WHAT THEY CAN AGREE TO.
>> IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD FIRST
STEP.
SHAWN JOHNSON,