PRESIDENT PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP
AND VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN A
WIN, DRAW OR LOSE?
WHERE WE STAND 11 DAYS OUT.
REPUBLICAN BILL MCCOSHEN AND
DEMOCRAT SCOT ROSS, THANKS TO
BOTH OF YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.
>> GREAT TO BE HERE.
>> YOUR OVERALL REACTION TO THE
FINAL MATCH-UP.
WILL EITHER PERFORMANCE MOVE THE
NEEDLE?
FIRST TO YOU, BILL.
>> HISTORICALLY THEY DON'T HAVE
A HUGE IMPACT, BUT I THOUGHT
TRUMP WAS THE CLEAR WINNER LAST
NIGHT.
NUMBER ONE, HIS TONE, HIS STYLE,
HIS CALMNESS.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY HE WAS ABLE
TO DRAW A SHARP CONTRAST BETWEEN
HE AND BIDEN, HE BEING THE
OUTSIDER GONE TO D.C. VERSUS VERSUS A
47-YEAR POLITICIAN WHO DOESN'T
HAVE MUCH TO SHOW FOR IT.
4, 5% ARE UNDECIDED.
THAT WAS HIS TARGET AUDIENCE
LAST NIGHT.
HE DID BETTER.
>> SCOTT, WIN, LOSE OR DRAW FOR
BIDEN?
>> I THINK IT WAS A BIG WIN FOR
BIDEN.
HE NEEDED TO ESTABLISH THAT HE
IS THE MATURE ADULT IN THE ROOM
THAT HAS A PLAN TO DEAL WITH THE
PANDEMIC, THE ECONOMIC
SITUATION, SYSTEMATIC RACISM AND
CLIMATE CHANGE.
HE HAS A PLAN FOR ALL FOUR OF
THOSE.
IN CONTRAST, DONALD TRUMP SAID
WE'VE ROUNDED THE CORNER AND,
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING AWAY WHEN
IT COMES TO THE PANDEMIC.
WE HAVE SEEN THAT SCIENCE IS A
LOT MORE POWERFUL THAN DONALD
TRUMP AND HIS HANDLING OF THE
PANDEMIC HAS BEEN A DISASTER FOR
THE PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN AND
PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.
THAT I THINK IS WHAT PEOPLE ARE
GOING TO BE LEFT WITH AFTER THAT
RACE.
JOE BIDEN HAD A PLAN.
DONALD TRUMP OFFERED MORE OF THE
SAME, WHICH WAS NOTHING.
>> ALL RIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE INTO
THAT IN A MOMENT, BUT WE INVITED
EACH OF YOU TO CHOOSE A CLIP
FROM THE DEBATE AND WE'RE GOING
TO START WITH YOURS, BILL, FROM
DONALD TRUMP.
SO HERE IT IT IS.
>> WHY DIDN'T HE GET IT DOWN?
IT'S ALL TALK, NO ACTION.
WHY DIDN'T HE GET IT DONE?
THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO WHEN
I BECOME PRESIDENT.
YOU WERE VICE PRESIDENT ALONG
WITH OBAMA AS YOUR PRESIDENT,
YOUR LEADER, FOR EIGHT YEARS.
WHY DIDN'T YOU GET IT DONE?
YOU HAD EIGHT YEARS TO GET IT
DONE.
>> SO, BILL, HE'S TALKING HERE
ABOUT CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORM?
>> WELL, HE USED THIS SAME LINE
IN ALMOST EVERY TOPIC LAST
NIGHT.
HE WAS TRYING TO REMIND VOTERS
OF WHY THEY SUPPORTED HIM IN
2016 AS THE OUTSIDER TO GO TO
D.C.
THEY DIDN'T WANT MORE OF THE
SAME.
THEY DID NOT WANT THE STATUS
QUO.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, HE WAS TRYING
TO DRAW A CONTRAST THAT BIDEN IS
AN INSIDER WHO'S BEEN THERE FOR
47 YEARS AND DOESN'T HAVE MUCH
TO SHOW FOR IT.
>> SCOT, BIDEN IN THAT CLIP WAS
TALKING ABOUT A FEDERAL LAW
PASSED IN THE '80s SENDING
PEOPLE TO PRISON FOR DRUGS.
HE SAID IT WAS A MISTAKE.
IS THAT A GOOD OR BAD DECISION?
>> ANYTIME YOU'RE HONEST WITH
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, IT'S
IMPORTANT.
THE CRIME BILL FOR THE MANY
FLAWS THAT IT HAD ALSO GET
AUTOMATIC WEAPONS OFF THE
STREET.
TALK TO A KID WHO WOULD HAVE TO
DO PREPARATION DRILLS.
AT ONE POINT IN TIME WE BANNED
AUTOMATIC WEAPONS.
THE FACT IS THAT DONALD TRUMP,
HE -- THE -- I WOULD SAY THIS.
THE ONE MISTAKE THAT JOE BIDEN
MADE WAS THAT HE DIDN'T QUICKLY
POINT OUT, LISTEN, THE ENTIRE
REPUBLICAN STRATEGY HAS BEEN TO
BLOCK EVERYTHING THAT PRESIDENT
OBAMA TRIED TO DO AND WE'RE
SEEING IT NOW WITH SENATOR RON
JOHNSON BEING THE SINGLE PERSON
IN WISCONSIN MOST RESPONSE FOR
PEOPLE NOT GETTING AN EXTENSION
OF UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS, FOR
PREVENTING THE HERO ACT BACK IN
MAY.
THE OBSTRUCTION OF THE
REPUBLICANS SHOULD BE ON THE
BALLOT BECAUSE WE NEED TO MOVE
FORWARD AND THEY DON'T WANT TO
DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT MIGHT
COMPROMISE THEM POA POLITICALLY.
>> 200,000 AMERICANS DEAD.
IF YOU HEAR NOTHING ELSE I SAY
TONIGHT, HEAR THIS.
ANYONE WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT
TAKING CONTROL, IN FACT NOT
SAYING I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY
INITIALLY, ANYONE WHO'S
RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT MANY DEATHS
SHOULD NOT REMAIN AS PRESIDENT
OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
>> SO, SCOT, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
RESPONSE TO COVID-19 IS WHAT
VOTERS MOST CARE ABOUT IN
WISCONSIN WHERE NUMBERS TODAY
HIT OVER 4300 AGAIN?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP HAVE
IGNORED SCIENCE AND THEY IGNORED
THE NEED TO EVEN WEAR MASKS AND
INSTEAD HAVE TURNED IT INTO SOME
KIND OF POLITICAL REPUBLICAN
LITMUS TEST.
THE FACT IS IT SHOULD BE A POINT
OF PATRIOTIC PRIDE TO PROTECT
THEMSELVES AND THEIR NEIGHBORS
AS WELL.
DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE EXACTLY
THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.
WISCONSIN THIS PAST WEEK HAD A
DAY WITH THE SINGLE MOST NUMBER
OF CASES, OVER 42 # ON#00.
730 WISCONSINITES HAVE LOST
THEIR LIVES BECAUSE OF THIS
REPUBLICAN THAT THE REPUBLICANS
DID NOTHING TO PREVENT.
>> BILL, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A
CHANCE TO JUMP IN ON THIS.
CLEARLY VERY SERIOUS,
FRIGHTENING SITUATION.
>> I THINK ON COVID-19 DONALD
TRUMP WON.
JOE BIDEN WAS ALL ABOUT GLOOM,
DOOM AND DEATH.
PEOPLE WANT HOPE.
THEY WANT ENCOURAGEMENT THAT
THERE'S A WAY TO GET THROUGH
THIS AND I THOUGHT DONALD TRUMP
OFFERED A BALANCED PLAN THAT WE
HAVE TO WORK OUR WAYS THROUGH
THIS, KEEP OUR SCHOOLS AND
BUSINESSES OPEN, FIND A WAY TO
DO ALL THESE THINGS SAFELY.
SO I THOUGHT WHILE SCOT THINKS
THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN BIDEN'S
STRONGEST POINT, I THINK IT WAS
ONE OF HIS WEAKER POINTS OF THE
NIGHT AND IT WAS A GOOD
OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PRESIDENT TO
SHOW OPTIMISM ABOUT WE'RE GOING
TO GET THROUGH THIS AND WE'RE
GOING TO FIND A WAY TO DO IT
TOGETHER.
>> I'M GOING TO MOVE ALONG TO
THE FINAL DAYS OF THIS CAMPAIGN.
AS YOU BOTH KNOW, DONALD TRUMP
IS COMING TO WISCONSIN AGAIN
TOMORROW, TO WAUKESHA FOR A
RALLY.
HE'S ALSO PLANNED ONE NOW FOR
TUESDAY NEAR LA CROSSE.
WHAT ARE YOUR COMMENTS ON THAT?
BILL.
>> SO ONE LAST THING ABOUT THE
DEBATE.
I THINK AT THE END BIDEN WORE
OUT.
HE LOOKED GASSED AT THE END OF
THE DEBATE.
THIS IS THE HARDEST JOB ON THE
PLANET AND HE BARELY HAD THE
STAMINA TO GET THROUGH 90
MINUTES WITH DONALD TRUMP.
AS RELATES TO TRUMP, HE'S COMING
TO WAUKESHA WHICH IS VERY SMART.
HE HAS TO DO WELL IN THE
SUBURBAN WING OF MILWAUKEE.
HE'S GOING TO LA CROSSE ON
TUESDAY.
THAT'S NOT WHERE I WOULD PUT
HIM.
I WOULD HAVE HIM IN GREEN BAY.
IT MIGHT HELP VAN ORDERREN IN
THE 3rd CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICT.
SO DON'T BE SURPRISED.
>> I GOT TO GET SCOT IN.
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THESE
BIG RALLIES ALL OVER THE PLACE?
>> IF YOU LOOK AT THE SPENDING
BETWEEN AUGUST AND ELECTION DAY,
THE ADVERTISING SPENT BY THE
BIDEN CAMPAIGN IN WISCONSIN IS
$32 MILLION.
TRUMP IS UNDER $6 MILLION.
HS CAMPAIGNHIS CAMPAIGN HAS ABANDONED
WISCONSIN.
HE'S THE BABY IN CHIEF.
BILL MENTIONED THE 3rd
CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.
WE'RE HEARING ABOUT THE
COUNTIES, BROWN, OUTAGAMIE AND
WINNEBAGO.
I THINK WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE
FRENCH QUARTER, EAU CLAIRE AND
LA CROSSE.
IF DEMOCRATS GO THERE AND THEY
DO WELL, THEY WIN STATEWIDE
ELECTIONS.
IT'S AS SIMPLE AS THAT.
IN 2016 AND 2018 THE DEMOCRATS
GOT -- THE REPUBLICANS GOT 41%.
WHEN DEMOCRATS RUN UP THE SCORE
THERE, THEY RUN BIG.
>> WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.
WE WON'T SPEAK WITH YOU BEFORE
THE ELECTION AGAIN.
WE'LL TALK AFTER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH YOU GUYS.
REALLY APPRECIATE IT.
>>