RESULTS.
THE SURVEY WAS TAKEN AFTER THE
FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AND
WHILE WISCONSINITES CONSIDERED
THE NEWS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S
CORONAVIRUS INFECTION.
CHARLES FRANKLIN JOINS US NOW
TO GO OVER THE RESULT.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
SO YOUR POLLING SHOWS A 1 POINT
SHIFT IN MARGIN SINCE EARLY
SEPTEMBER.
>> WE'VE HAD VERY LITTLE SHIFT.
IT IS A FIVE POINT BIDEN LEAD
THIS MONTH.
IT WAS FOUR POINTS IN SEPTEMBER.
IF YOU GO BACK TO MAY, THE
BIDEN HAS LED IN ALL OF THEM
BUT BY FOUR, SIX, FIVE, FOUR,
AND NOW FIVE AGAIN.
EASY SUMMARY WOULD BE FIVE
PERCENT PLUS OR MINUS ONE.
>> YOU SAID IT'S THE PHENOMENAL
STORY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION
THAT THINGS THAT SHOULD HAVE
GIGANTIC IMPACTS DON'T.
WHY IS THIS EVEN AFTER THE
DEBATE AND THE COVID DIAGNOSIS?
>> I THINK ONE PART OF THE
STORY, OF COURSE, IS PARTISAN
POLARIZATION AND WE HAVE SUCH
STRONG VIEWS OF TRUMP.
30 TO 35% SAY THEY STRONGLY
APPROVE OF THE JOB HE IS DOING.
45 TO 48% SAY THEY STRONGLY
DISAPPROVE.
SO THAT'S ONE PART OF IT.
BUT I DO THINK THE OTHER THING
IS AS WE'VE SEEN MAJOR EVENT
AFTER MAJOR EVENT, NONE OF THEM
HAVE FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGED THE
VIEWS OF THE PRESIDENT BECAUSE
THE PRESIDENT HASN'T CHANGED
MUCH IN RESPONSE TO THOSE.
AND SO TRUMP IS TRUMP.
THE CONSISTENCY OF THE IMAGE HE
PRESENTS, THE STYLE HE ADOPTS,
AND THE THINGS HE SAYS HAVE
BEEN CONSISTENT AS WE'VE GONE
THROUGH ALL THE VARIOUS EVENTS
AND CRISES OF THE LAST FOUR
YEARS.
AND SO IN THAT SENSE THERE HAS
BEEN NO MOMENT WHEN HE LOOKS
LIKE A DIFFERENT PERSON THAN HE
HAD BEEN BEFORE.
INCLUDING HIS ILLNESS THIS
WEEKEND.
>> TRUE ENOUGH.
HOW SIGNIFICANT IS THAT
UNDECIDED NUMBER OF 8%?
>> IT'S HALF OR LESS OF WHAT IT
WAS FOUR YEARS AGO.
SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT FACT
THAT IT IS A LESS VOLATILE
ELECTORATE AND LESS UNDECIDED
ELECTORATE THAN FOUR YEARS AGO.
WHEN WE LOOK AT WHO THOSE FOLKS
ARE, THEY THE END TO BE
NONPARTISAN, DON'T LEAN TO
EITHER PARTY.
THEY THE END TO NOT APPROVE OF
THE JOB TRUMP IS DOING T THEY
ALSO THE END TO NOT LIKE JOE
BIDEN VERY MUCH.
AND SO THAT IS A QUESTION OF
WILL THEY STAY HOME, WILL THEY
VOTE THIRD PARTY, OR WILL IN
THE END THEY COME BACK TO ONE
CANDIDATE OR THE OTHER?
BUT AS OF NOW, IT LOOKS LIKE
THEY ARE FAIRLY EVENLY DIVIDED.
A LOT OF THEM SIMPLY REFUSE TO
BE PUSHED TOWARDS ONE CANDIDATE
OR ANOTHER.
ABOUT 60% OF THOSE UNDECIDED
FOLKS WHEN WE PUSHED THEM SAY
NO I REALLY AM UNDECIDED.
>> YOU SPOKE TO THIS A MOMENT
AGO BUT THE PRESIDENT'S OVERALL
JOB APPROVAL NUMBERS ARE UNDER
WATER, 52% DISPROVING TO 44%
APPROVING AND YET HE HAS GOOD
APPROVAL ON THE ECONOMY.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE'VE SEEN THIS CONSISTENTLY
THROUGHOUT HIS TERM AND
CERTAINLY OVER THE LAST SIX
MONTHS HE HAS BEEN ABOUT 8%
MORE DISAPPROVE THAN APPROVE AS
WE ARE NOW OR SOMETIMES 10 BUT
THE ECONOMY DOES REMAIN THE
STRONG SUIT.
51% APPROVE OF THE JOB HE IS
DOING THERE.
COMPARED TO JUST 41% ON THE
CORONAVIRUS AND 37% ON HANDLING
PROTESTS.
SO THE ECONOMY IS THE TRONG
SUIT.
>> LET'S LOOK AT TONY EVERS
CORONAVIRUS APPROVAL AND
DISAPPROVAL NUMBERS.
56% APPROVE OF HOW HE IS
HANDLING THE PANDEMIC.
WHAT DO YOU THINK EXPLAINS
THAT, EVEN THOUGH IT'S HIS
LOWEST APPROVAL SINCE MARCH?
>> YOU'RE RIGHT.
IN MARCH HE SHOT UP TO A
PHENOMENAL 76% ON HANDLING
COVID.
THIS WAS A PHENOMENON WE SAW
ACROSS THE COUNTRIES.
GOVERNORS IN MOST STATES GOT
REALLY HIGH MARKS FOR THEIR
INITIAL RESPONSE.
THAT SUPPORT HAS FALLEN OFF IN
THE MONTHS SINCE.
THOUGH WITH EVERS IT'S STILL
SOLIDLY NET POSITIVE.
I THINK PART OF IT IS SIMPLY
THAT GOVERNORS WERE PROACTIVE
IN DEALING WITH THE VIRUS BUT
THERE HAVE BEEN DISAGREEMENTS
WITH THEM OVER THAT.
WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP HE ONLY
HIT A HIGH OF 51% APPROVAL ON
CORONAVIRUS IN MARCH.
AND HAS FALLEN OFF, AS I SAID,
DOWN TO 41% NOW.
NEVER AS HIGH AS THE GOVERNORS
GOT.
>> SPEAKING OF BEING PROACTIVE,
THE MASK MANDATE HAS 72%
SUPPORT.
A BIG NUMBER EVEN AS
REPUBLICANS ARE IN COURT TRYING
TO OVERTURN IT.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE
POLITICAL SCIENCE OF TURNING A
PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS PARTISAN
IN THIS WAY?
>> IT IS SORT OF STRIKING THAT
IT HAS BECOME AS PARTISAN AS IT
IS.
IN THIS MONTH'S POLL, THOUGH,
WE SAW NEAR UNANIMITY AMONG
DEMOCRATS.
98% SUPPORTED THE MASKS.
66% OF INDEPENDENTS.
BUT AMONG REPUBLICANS IT WAS AN
EVEN SPLIT 47 TO 48 OR 49.
SO YOU KNOW, A LOT OF POLITICAL
ISSUES WILL SEE 80% OF ONE
PARTY GOING THE OTHER BUT
REPUBLICANS EVENLY DIVIDED HERE.
SEEMS LIKE MORE OF A BALANCE
WITHIN THE GOP THAN WHAT YOU
SEE IN COURT.
AND THE ARGUMENTS THAT ELECTED
REPUBLICANS MAKE IN A MUCH MORE
CRITICAL OF THE GOVERNOR'S MASK
MANDATE.
VERY FEW ELECTED REPUBLICANS
THAT I'VE HEARD ARE SUPPORTING
THAT MANDATE.
BUT THEIR RANK AND FILE ARE
EVENLY SPLIT ON THE ISSUE.
>> YOU KNOW YOUR NUMBERS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
WE HAD MORE SLIDES WE WANTED TO
GET TO BUT WE CAN'T DO IT TODAY.
CHARLES FRANKLIN, YOU WILL BE
BACK THE LAST WEEK OF THIS
MONTH WITH YOUR FINAL POLL
BEFORE THE ELECTION.
THANKS VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU.
LOOK FORWARD TO IT.
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