>> YOU TOO.
CONVENTION INSIGHT AND ELECTION
FORESIGHT WITH BILL MCCOSHEN AND
SCOT ROSS.
SO I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU,
BILL.
HOW WOULD YOU GRADE THE
CONVENTIONS IN TERMS OF GIVING A
BOOST TO THEIR RESPECTIVE
CANDIDATES?
>> WELL, I'D GIVE DEMOCRATS A C.
IT WAS MORE LIKE A ZOOM CHAT
ROOM.
THEY USED HOLLYWOOD ELITES AND
POLITICIANS.
I GIVE REPUBLICANS A SOLID A
BECAUSE THEY HAD REAL PEOPLE,
REAL STORIES.
THEY WERE TALKING LANGUAGES AND
TO PEOPLE THAT CARE ABOUT ISSUES
IN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
I GIVE THEM A SOLID A FOR SURE.
>> WHAT ABOUT YOU, SCOTT?
>> I'D GIVE THE DEMOCRATS A A
MINUS FOR TALKING ABOUT ISSUES
THAT MATTER TO PEOPLE, WHETHER
IT'S HEALTH CARE, THE PANDEMIC,
ECONOMY.
ON THE REPUBLICANS, I THINK ON
SUBSTANCE IN TERMS OF TRUTH, I
GIVE THEM AN F.
THEN ON TALKING ABOUT ISSUES
THAT PEOPLE CARE ABOUT, I'D GIVE
THEM AN INCOMPLETE.
THAT'S WHAT I'D DO.
YEAH.
THAT'S THE WAY I'D SEE IT.
>> HAS WHAT'S HAPPENED IN
KENOSHA KIND OF OVERSHADOWED
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS FOR
WISCONSIN, BILL?
>> I THINK IT'S NOW DRIVING
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICS.
THERE WAS A NEW POLL OUT THIS
MORNING THAT HAD DONALD TRUMP
WITH A ONE-POINT LEAD IN THE
STATE OF WISCONSIN, HAD HIM TIED
IN MINNESOTA AND LEADING IN
MICHIGAN.
SO I THINK KENOSHA IS GOING TO
BE A BIG DEAL.
HERE'S THE REASON, FRED.
PEOPLE IN WISCONSIN DIDN'T
REALLY RELATE TO WHAT WAS GOING
ON IN SEATTLE OR PORTLAND.
BUT WHAT IT HAPPENS IN KENOSHA
IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD, THAT MEANS
SOMETHING TO YOU.
AND I THINK IT'S A BAD SIGN FOR
DEMOCRATS.
THEY DIDN'T REACT SOON ENOUGH,
INCLUDING OUR GOVERNOR, WHO GOT
EX CORE EIGHTED BY THE KENOSHA
NEWS YESTERDAY FOR HIS LACK OF
ACTION ON THIS THING.
AND IT WILL PLAY A FACTOR IN THE
PRESIDENTIAL RACE FOR THE NEXT
COUPLE WEEKS, MAYBE LONGER.
>> SCOTT, WHAT DO YOU THINK
ABOUT THAT, A BUTCH BUMP FOR DONALD
TRUMP OUT OF KENOSHA.
>> AN UNARMED BLACK MAN WAS SHOT
SEVEN TIMES BY POLICE WHEN HE
WAS ABSOLUTELY NO THREAT.
THIS CONTINUES TO BE A PROBLEM.
THIS IS WHY THESE UPRISINGS ARE
HAPPENING.
AS JACOB BLAKE'S FATHER SAID
TODAY IN WASHINGTON D.C.,
THERE'S ONE JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR
WHITE PEOPLE AND ONE JUSTICE
SYSTEM FOR BLACK PEOPLE.
DEMOCRATS AND INDEPENDENTS ARE
RECOGNIZING THAT AND THEY'RE
SAYING ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
ON THE OTHER HAND, DONALD TRUMP
JUST CONTINUES TO TRY AND DIVIDE
AND STOKE THIS.
HE WANTS TO DO THAT TO GET
REELECTED.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO
WORK.
I DON'TI THINK THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO
DO THE RIGHT THING.
>> REPUBLICANS SPOKE TO THEIR
UPSET ABOUT THE PROTESTS AND LAW
AND ORDER, BUT NOT TO THE
SHOOTING BY AN OFFICER OF JACOB
BLAKE OR THE 17-YEAR-OLD GUNMAN
WHO ALLEGEDLY MURDERED TWO
PROTESTS.
HOW IS ANY OF THIS EVEN
PARTISAN?
BILL?
>> I THINK IT'S PARTISAN BECAUSE
I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE
REPUBLICANS ARE WILLING TO EVEN
CRITICIZE THE 17-YEAR-OLD.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE ISSUE
HERE.
THE ISSUE IS HERE THAT WE NEED
TO BE COMING TOGETHER.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO
DO THAT WITH DONALD TRUMP AND
HIS COHORTS.
THAT'S WHY.
>> MORE THAN ANYTHING, FRED,
THIS ISSUE NEEDED LEADERSHIP A
LOT SOONER.
FOR THE GOVERNOR TO WAIT UNTIL
FOUR DAYS AFTER THE SHOOTING TO
FINALLY ARRIVE IN KENOSHA IS
INEXPLICABLE TO ME.
I WORKED FOR A GOVERNOR WHO
WOULD HAVE BEEN THERE THAT NIGHT
OR THE NEXT MORNING.
I KNOW JIM DOYLE, A DEMOCRAT,
SCOTT WALKER WOULD HAVE ALSO
BEEN THERE.
THE LACK OF REACTION OR ACTION
FROM LEADERS IN WISCONSIN HAS
CAUSED THIS THING TO GET WORSE
THAN IT NEEDED TO BE.
>> GO AHEAD.
>> REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE
HAVEN'T BEEN TO WORK IN 130
DAYS.
THE FACT IS THAT GOVERNOR EVERS
HAD A PACKAGE OF EIGHT DIFFERENT
BILLS HE WANTED TO PASS.
ROBIN VOS IS CALLING FOR A TASK
FORCE.
>> THEY'RE COMING IN ON MONDAY.
>> IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, THE
GOVERNOR HAS GOT TO BE MEETING
WITH LOCAL LEADERS, LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH
BLACK MINISTERS.
THIS NEEDED ACTION IMMEDIATELY
AND IT DIDN'T GET IT.
>> I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE IT
THERE.
THANKS VERY MUCH.
THIS TURNED OUT, OF COURSE, NOT
TO BE A SUPER FUN CONVERSATION,
BUT A VERY SERIOUS ONE, BUT WE
REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR INSIGHTS.
THANKS VER