>> IN TONIGHT'S INSIDE LOOK
DIVIDED STATE GOVERNMENT ON
STEROIDS.
THIS WEEK WAS A STARK DISPLAY
OF PARTISAN POWER PLAYS, OR IS
IT THE NEW NORMAL?
WE TURN TO OUR POLITICAL
PANELISTS, THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.
FIRST YOU, SCOTT, YOUR REACTION
TO THE OUSTER OF BOTH BRAD
PFAFF AND THE SPECIAL SESSION
THAT WAS NOT?
>> I THINK IT'S OUTRAGEOUS.
IT IS WHERE THE REPUBLICAN
PARTY OF WISCONSIN IS RIGHT NOW.
WHAT YOU HAD IF BRAD PFAFF WAS
AN ABLE SERVANT, HE KNOWS WHAT
IT IS LIKE TO BE A FARMER.
GROUP ON A FAMILY FARM AND
WORKED HELPING FARMERS IN
WISCONSIN FOR 25 YEARS.
HE HAS DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO IT.
THE FACT THEY GOT RID OF HIM
WAS A COMPLETE AND TOTAL POWER
PLAY.
IT WAS BECAUSE THE REPUBLICANS
DON'T LIKE THE INDUSTRIES THAT
SUPPORT THE REPUBLICANS DON'T
LIKE WHAT BRAD AND THE DATCP
WERE DOING RELATED TO SITING.
THEY WANT TO SEND A MESSAGE TO
FARMERS THAT THEY DON'T CARE
ABOUT FARMERS.
>> I THINK SCOTT AND I WILL
AGREE ON ONE OF HIS POINTS.
DATCP DID NOT LISTEN TO FAERMS
ON THIS RULE.
BRAD PFAFF IS A GOOD MAN.
I'VE KNOWN HIM A LONG TIME.
WHAT HAPPENED THIS WEEK WAS
UNFORTUNATE BUT IT WAS
PREVENTABLE.
IT REALLY WAS.
ON THE LIVESTOCK SITING RULE HE
HAD FOUR CHANCES TO CHANGE THIS
RULE AND THE DATCP DECIDED NOT
TO.
THE AG INDUSTRY SENT HIM A
LETTER IN AUGUST WITH SPECIFIC
CONCERNS.
THEY DID NOTHING.
SPEAKER VOS, MAJORITY LEADER
FITZGERALD SENTD HIM A LETTER
SAYING IF YOU DON'T LISTEN TO
FARMERS ON THIS WE WILL SUSPEND
THE RULE.
HE DID NOTHING.
CHAIRMAN NASS PUT OUT A
STATEMENT SAYING IF YOU DON'T
LISTEN TO FARMERS WE'LL SEND
THIS RULE BACK.
THEY DID NOTHING.
IT WASN'T UNTIL LAST FRIDAY
WHEN MAJORITY LEADER FITZGERALD
SAID TO THE GOVERNOR WE DON'T
HAVE THE VOTES FOR PFAFF HE
MIGHT BE GOING DOWN THEY
WITHDREW THE RULES.
IF YOU ARE AG SECRETARY, ONE
JOB, TO DEFEND AND PROMOTE THE
AG INDUSTRY.
THEY CHOSEN ACTIVISTS OVER FARM
OWNERS.
>> THE REPUBLICANS ARE
BEHOLDING TO THE NRA.
THEY WON'T PASS COMMON GUN
REFORM THAT 80% OF THE PUBLIC
SPORTS WITH UNIVERSAL
BACKGROUND CHECKS AND COMES TO
THE EXTREME RISK PROTECTION
ORDERS.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT 80% OF
THE PEOPLE SUPPORT.
THE REPUBLICANS WILL DO NOTHING.
>> AND YET THE GOVERNOR KNEW
THEY WEREN'T GOING TO GO FOR
THIS.
HE GETS TO NOW GO AHEAD AND PUT
UP STATEMENTS ABOUT THE 80%.
HE KNEW THEY WEREN'T GOING TO
GO FOR IT.
>> WELL, AGAIN, THE MODERN
REPUBLICAN PARTY IS BOUGHT AND
PAID FOR BY THE NATIONAL RIFLE
ASSOCIATION.
THEY WILL STAND IN THE WAY NO
MATTER HOW MUCH DATA-DRIVE --
THAT'S THE THING ABOUT THESE
TWO PIECES OF LEGISLATION.
IT IS DATA DRIVEN THAT THEY
WORK.
THE REDUCTION IN GUN-RELATED
SUICIDES IN INDIANA 10 YEARS
AFTER THEY PUT THESE MEASURES
IN PLACE, THE ERPO, 7.5%
REDUCTION.
VERY SIMPLE.
IT WORKS.
>> DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR IN
MINNESOTA TIM WALZ HAD THE
OPPORTUNITY AND CHOSE NOT TO
CALL A SPECIAL SESSION.
THIS ADMINISTRATION COULD SEE
THIS LEGISLATURE WAS GOING TO
PASS IT.
YOU DON'T STR A GOVERNOR SIT ON
THE STATE SENATE FLOOR FOR 2
1/2 HOURS WATCHING ONE OF HIS
OWN CABINET SECRETARIES GO DOWN.
IT WAS MALPRACTICE BY THE STA.
YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT.
I WORKED FOR A GOVERNOR FOR 10
YEARS.
>> UNUSUAL TO SEE HIM IN THE
CHAMBERS.
>> I DON'T THINK I COULD WATCH
THE SENATE FOR 2 1/2 HOURS AT
THIS POINT, I CAN TELL YOU THAT.
>> IS THERE ANY AMOUNT OF
REVENGE POLITICS IN ALL OF THIS?
>> I THINK IT SPEAKS TO THEY
HAVE TO FIRG OUT A WAY TO WORK
TOGETHER.
REMEMBER, LET'S GO BACK TO
TOMMY THOMPSON.
HE GOT HIS BIGGEST
ACHIEVEMENTS, WELFARE REFORM
AND SCHOOL CHOICE WHEN
DEMOCRATS CONTROLLED BOTH
HOUSES OF THE LEGISLATURE.
WHY?
HE FIGURED OUT HOW TO WORK WITH
THE DEMOCRATS.
JIM DOYLE GOT THINGS DONE.
THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS TO
FIGURE OUT HOW TO WORK WITH THE
REPUBLICANS IN THE MAJORITY.
>> THINGS ARE SO MUCH MORE
ENTRENCHED.
>> WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR.
THE LAME DUCK ATTACKS.
REJECTING A SECRETARY FOR THE
FIRST TIME IN MODERN HISTORY
AND NOW THE STUFF RELATED TO
RESTRICTING THE VETO AUTHORITY
OF THE GOVERNOR.
ALL ATTACKS BY THE REPUBLICANS
WHO SAT AND DID EVERYTHING THAT
SCOTT WALKER WANTED AS GOVERNOR
AND THEY CHANGE THE RULES
BECAUSE A DEMOCRAT WON AND THEY
LOST.
>> HOW DO YOU WORK TOGETHER?
>> A MATTER OF FINDING THE
RIGHT PERSON WHO CAN BUILD THE
RELATIONSHIP AND START TO CUT
SMALL DEALS THAT LEAD TO BIGGER
DEALS.
YOU HAVE TO BUILD TRUST.
THERE IS NO TRUST BETWEEN THE
LEGISLATURE AND THE
ADMINISTRATION.
>> WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE
KENTUCKY GOVERNOR'S RACE THAT
SAW A DEMOCRAT WIN?
>> A TINY WIN FOR DEMOCRATS.
BEVIN WAS VERY UNPOPULAR.
HIS JOB APPROVAL WAS IN THE 30s.
HE SHOULDN'T HAVE RUN FOR
REELECTION.
HE HELPED HIM GET TO 49%.
MORE IMPORTANTLY DOWN TICKET
THERE WERE FIVE OTHER STATEWIDE
RACES TUESDAY NIGHT AND
REPUBLICANS CLEANED UP ON ALL
OF THEM.
THEY WON ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO
18% IN ALL FIVE OF THOSE OTHER
RACES.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, THOSE
CANDIDATES GOT BETWEEN 75,000
AND 155,000 MORE VOTES THAN
BEVIN.
THE REPUBLICANS CAME OUT ON
TUESDAY NIGHT.
THEY JUST DIDN'T LIKE BEVIN.
>> DEMOCRATS CAME OUT.
YOU SAW TRUMP WON THAT STATE BY
30 POINTS.
LOOK AT VIRGINIA WHERE FOR THE
FIRST TIME IN A GENERATION THE
DEMOCRATS CONTROL ALL BRANCHES
OF GOVERNMENT AND HAVE NOT LOST
A STATE -- NOT LOST A STATEWIDE
RACE SINCE 2009.
IN MISSISSIPPI THE DEMOCRAT
CAME CLOSE TO WINNING.
DEMOCRATS WIN ELECTIONS WHEN
DEMOCRATS GO TO THE POLLS.
THEY'RE MOTIVATED TO GO OUT
THERE BECAUSE OF THE CORRUPTION
AND WHATEVER DONALD TRUMP WANTS
BY THE REPUBLICAN PARTIES.
>> YOU THINK THAT KIND OF A
RESULTS IS A BELLWETHER FOR
2020?
>> I DO WITH THE CARVE YET
DEMOCRATS HAVE TO KEEP WORKING
AND TALKING TO THEIR BASE SO
THEIR BASE GOES OUT TO THE POLL.
>> IT IS NOT A BELLWETHER NOT
IN KENTUCKY.
VIRGINIA HAS BEEN TRENDING BLUE
FOR A WHILE.
TRUMP DIDN'T LAST TIME, BUSH
DIDN'T WIN IT EITHER TIME.
NOT A HUGE SURPRISE.
BUT I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, THE ONE
THING REPUBLICANS HAVE TO BE
CAREFUL OF IS THEY HAVE LOST
350 SEATS IN THE LEGISLATURES
DURING DONALD TRUMP'S
ADMINISTRATION.
THAT'S HALF AS MANY AS OBAMA
LOST AT THE SAME POINT IN HIS
PRESIDENCY BUT SOMETHING TO BE
MINDFUL OF.
>> THANKS