>> I'M ZAC SCHULTZ, FILLING IN
TONIGHT FOR FREDERICA FREYBERG.
TONIGHT ON "HERE AND NOW," A
CONVERSATION WITH THE HEALTH
SERVICES SECRETARY DESIGNEE,
INCLUDING BACK TO SCHOOL
QUESTIONS ABOUT IMMUNIZATIONS.
THEN AN INSIDE LOOK AT A NEW
BILL THAT AIMS TO HELP KEEP
FAMILY FARMS WITHIN THE FAMILY.
A CLOSER LOOK AT THE TOLL THE
FOXCONN PROJECT HAS TAKEN ON
PROPERTY OWNERS.
RESULTS FROM THE LATEST
MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY POLL.
IT'S "HERE AND NOW" FOR
SEPTEMBER 6.
>> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW" IS
PROVIDED IN PART BY FRIENDS OF
WISCONSIN PUBLIC TELEVISION.
>> A FIRST LOOK TONIGHT.
IT'S BACK TO SCHOOL WEEK IN
WISCONSIN AND WHILE KIDS ARE
MAKING NEW FRIENDS, THEY'RE ALSO
SHARING GERMS AND NUMBERS FROM
THE STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH
SERVICES SHOW AN INCREASING
NUMBER OF PARENTS ARE OPTING OUT
OF IMMUNIZATIONS FOR THEIR
CHILDREN.
MORE THAN 8% OF ALL SCHOOL
CHILDREN DID NOT MEET THE
MINIMUM IMMUNIZATION STANDARDS,
A NUMBER THAT HAS INCREASED IN
RECENT YEARS.
THE NUMBER OF KIDS WHO ARE
PROTECTED FROM THE MEASLES
VARIES FROM 70% TO 980 -- 90%.
OUR GUEST ON NOON WEDNESDAY WAS
DR. JAMES CONWAY.
HE EXPLAINED WHY THIS PUTS
WISCONSIN AT A GREATER RISK FOR
A MEASLES OUTBREAK.
>> THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 80%
AND 90 PERSZ% IS ENORMOUS.
FOR MOST DISEASES WE WANT TO BE
OVER 90%.
FOR SOME DISEASES THAT ARE
HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS, MEASLES ONE
OF THE MOST TON CON TAI GENT ON THE
PLANET, YOU WANT 95% PROTECTED
SO YOU DON'T GET INTO AN
OUTBREAK SITUATION.
>> JOINING US NOW IS THE
SECRETARY DES DESIGNEE, ANDREA PALM.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> HOW MUCH AT RISK IS WISCONSIN
OF A MEASLES OUTBREAK?
>> LIKE ALL STATES WHO DON'T
HAVE A CASE IN THEIR STATE, IT
JUST TAKES ONE EXPOSURE TO START
AN OUTBREAK.
SO I THINK OUR FOLKS AT THE
DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH SERVICES IN
PARTNERSHIP WITH LOCAL HEALTH
DEPARTMENTS ARE FOCUSED ON
MAKING SURE WE ARE TRACKING AND
TRACING ANY SUS SUSPECTED CASE SO WE
ARE PREPARED TO LIMIT ITS SPREAD
AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
>> DEMOCRATS IN THE LEGISLATURE
PROPOSED A BILL THAT WOULD
ELIMINATE THE PERSONAL EXEMPTION
CLAUSE FOR PARENTS.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT?
>> WE NEED TO USE ALL THE TOOLS
TO INCREASE IMMUNIZATION RATES.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHALLENGES WE
FACE AND PART OF WHY YOU'RE
SEEING AN INCREASE IN PERSONAL
EXEMPTION ONS IS MISINFORMATION
ON THE INTERNET.
IMMUNIZATIONS ARE SOME OF THE
SAFEST AND MOST TESTED MEDICINES
IN THE MARKETPLACE AND THEY KEEP
US SAFE.
MEASLES IS HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS.
THE SAFEST WAY TO PROTECT YOUR
FAMILY AND COMMUNITY AT THAT 95%
RATE IS TO GET THE VACCINE.
>> GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF HERD
IMMUNITY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT
THE STATE CAN RISK OR SHOULD WE
REMOVE THE EXEMPTION FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY?
>> THERE IS A BILL MOVING
THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE.
WE LIKE WITH ALL LEGISLATION ARE
ABSOLUTELY INTERESTED IN WORKING
WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO MAKE
SURE IT IS AS WORKABLE AS
POSSIBLE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT KIDS
AND FAMILIES WHO HAVE MEMBERS
WHO CAN'T BE VACCINATED BECAUSE
OF MEDICAL CONDITIONS OR OTHER
THINGS, THAT THOSE PROTECTIONS
REMAIN IN PLACE.
BUT I THINK THE MORE WE LOWER
THE RATE OF PERSONAL EXEMPTIONS,
THE MORE PROTECTED WE ALL ARE.
>> SPEAKING BROADLY ABOUT YOUR
DEPARTMENT.
THE BUDGET WAS BUILT AROUND A
MEDICAID EXPANSION.
THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR DHS?
>> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
MEDICAID EX ANGS IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO DO IN
WISCONSIN.
37 OTHER STATES HAVE DONE IT.
IT WOULD BRING DOWN, AS YOU SAW
IN OUR BUDGET, A WHOLE LOT OF
NEW FEDERAL MONEY THAT WOULD
ALLOW US TO MAKE REALLY
IMPORTANT INVESTMENTS IN OTHER
PARTS OF THE HEALTH CARE
NOT JUST IN MEDICAID, BUT IN
OTHER PARTS OF THE SYSTEM THAT
WOULD BENEFIT ALL WISCONSINITES.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO
PRIORITIZE IT, TO PUSH TO BRING
THAT TAXPAYER MONEY BACK TO
WISCONSIN TO SPEND A MORE
IMPORTANT THINGS HERE.
IN THE MEANTIME WE'RE FOCUSED ON
MAKING SURE WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR
BADGERCARE KNOW THAT THEY ARE,
THAT THEY'RE ENROLLED AND GET
THE SERVICES THAT THEY NEED AND
THAT WE'RE CONTINUING TO MAKE
IMPROVE MENTSZIMPROVEMENTS IN THE PROGRAM.
>> WITH THE TRANSITION TO A
DEMOCRATIC ADMINISTRATION, WE'VE
SEEN OTHER STATE AGENCIES SHIFT
SOME OF THEIR PRIORITIES.
IS THAT HAPPENING AT DHS?
>> SO I THINK AS YOU SUGGEST,
ALLINGSAGENCIES ARE TAKING A LOOK AT
WHERE THEY'VE BEEN, WANT TO HEAD
TO.
WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PRIORITIES,
THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC, METH
EPIDEMIC.
THOSE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT
THINGS FOR US TO CONTINUE TO
PRIORITIZE AND TRY TO GET IN
FRONT OF, REDUCING DEATHS FROM
OPIOID OVERDOSE IS A REALLY
IMPORTANT THING FOR US TO DO.
I THINK WE ALSO ARE LOOKING AT
THE LONG-TERM CARE SYSTEM, AGING
POPULATION.
WE KNOW IT'S COMING.
HOW ARE WE MAKING SURE THAT WE
ARE RESPONSIBLY AND
STRATEGICALLY READY TO SERVE
SENIORS AS THEY AGE IN THEIR
HOMES AND COMMUNITIES IN THE
LEAST RESTRICTIVE SETTING THAT
HONORS THEIR CHOICES.
THAT IS A PLACE WE WILL BE
SPENDING TIME.
AS WELL AS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH.
I MENTIONED THE OPIOID AND METH
PROBLEMS WE HAVE.
MENTAL HEALTH, SUBSTANCE ABUSE
DISORDERS MORE BROADLY ARE
PLACES WHERE WISCONSIN CAN TAKE
A LEADERSHIP ROLE NATIONALLY,
INTEGRATING THOSE INTO HEALTH
CARE SO WE'RE REDUCING STIGMA,
ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO SEEK THE
HELP THEY NEED AND MAKING OUR
HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF OUR
PEOPLE BETTER.
THAT'S ANOTHER PLACE WHERE
YOU'LL SEE SOME FOCUS FROM US.
>> NEWS REPORTS TALK ABOUT
PURDUE PHARMA BEING IN
SETTLEMENT TALKS WITH STATES
OVER THEIR ROLE IN THE OPIOID
CRISIS.
HOW WOULD YOU WANT TO SEE
WISCONSIN SPEND ANY SETTLEMENT
DOLLARS?
>> THE SCIENCE ON THIS IS PRETTY
GOOD.
WE KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE,
MEDICATION-ASSISTED TREATMENT IS
THE MOST EFFECTIVE METHOD OF
TREATMENT.
WITH FEDERAL AND STATE COLLARS
WE'VE RECEIVED OVER THE LAST
NUMBER OF YEARS WE'VE MADE
IMPROVEMENT IN ACCESS TO THAT.
ANY SETTLEMENT WE MIGHT SEE,
WE'VE GOT TO DO MORE TO INCREASE
ACCESS TO TREATMENT AND
MEDICATION-ASSISTED TREATMENT.
YOU SEE A LOT OF IMPROVEMENT TO
THE OVERDOSE REVERSAL DRUG SO
ADMINISTRATION OF THAT WILL SAVE
YOUR LIFE.
SO WHILE WE NEED TO GET YOU INTO
TREATMENT, YOU GOT TO MAKE IT
THROUGH THE OVERDOSE FIRST.
SO INCREASED ACCESS TO THAT
WOULD BE ANOTHER PLACE WHERE WE
WOULD WANT TO SEE SOME ABILITY
TO EXPAND OUR RESOURCE
ALLOCATION IN THAT SPACE.
THERE'S LOTS OF WORK THAT CAN
AND SHOULD BE DONE ON THE
PREVENTION SIDE.
THAT'S THE BALL GAME.
IF WE CAN KEEP PEOPLE FROM
BECOMING ADDICTED TO THESE
SUBSTANCES, YOU GOT LESS OF A
FIGHT ON THE BACK END.
SO FOCUS ON PREVENTION, ON USE,
ON THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF FOLKS WHO
ARE MORE LIKELY TO BECOME
ADDICTED.
WE NEED TO FOCUS EFFORTS THERE.
AND THEN ONCE YOU MAKE IT
THROUGH TREATMENT, IT'S A
LIFELONG COMMITMENT AND THERE
ARE ALWAYS MOMENTS WHERE YOU
NEED A LITTLE SUPPORT.
AND SO RECOVERY AND THE SERVICES
AND THE SUPPORT THAT IS
NECESSARY TO HELP PEOPLE
MAINTAIN THEIR SOBRIETY OVER
TIME ARE ALSO IMPORTANT PARTS OF
THE SYSTEM THAT WE COULD AND
SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON TO HELP
PEOPLE REMAIN HEALTHY AND WELL
ONCE THEY GET THERE.
>> UNDER THE LAME DUCK LAWS, THE
JOINT FINANCE WOULD HAVE TO
APPROVE ANY SETTLEMENT AND THEY
THEY'D ALSO HAVE SOME CONTROL
OVER HOW THOSE DOLLARS WERE
SPENT.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY PRELIMINARY
CONVERSATIONS WITH REPUBLICANS
ABOUT ANY POTENTIAL USE FOR
THOSE DOLLARS?
>> I HAVE NOT, BUT THERE'S A
STRONG SCIENCE BASE FOR THE
KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO
TO ACTUAL LI HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE REAL IMPACT AND
THAT IS WHERE I WOULD WANT TO
START ANY CONVERSATION WE HAVE
WITH THEM.
>> SO NO MEMBER OF THE CABINET
HAS HAD A CONFIRMATION VOTE.
HOW HAS THAT IMPACTED YOUR
ABILITY TO DO YOUR JOB?
>> DIFFERENT FROM THE FEDERAL
LEVEL WHICH IS WHERE I CAME
FROM, I CAN SERVE IN THIS ROLE
WITHOUT BEING CONFIRMED, WITHOUT
ANY SORT OF TIME LIMIT.
SO I GET UP EVERY DAY AND I'M SO
HAPPY TO BE AT DHS AND I'M
GRATEFUL TO HAVE BEEN NOMINATED
BY THE GOVERNOR.
I'VE TRIED REALLY HARD TO BUILD
RELATIONSHIPS WITH MY COLLEAGUES
IN THE LEGISLATURE, TO BE
TRANSPARENT, TO BE RESPONSIVE,
TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING GOOD
CASEWORK SERVICES AND TALKING TO
THEM ABOUT THEIR POLICY
PRIORITIES.
SO I AM CERTAINLY HOPEFUL THAT I
WILL BE CONFIRMED AND JUST GET
UP EVERY DAY AND TRY TO DO MY
JOB THE BEST THAT I CAN FOR THE
PEOPLE OF WISCONSIN.
>> IN JUST A FEW SECONDS, DO YOU
THINK HOLDING OFF CONFIRMATION
GIVES REPUBLICANS ANY REMPLEG
OVER YOU?
>> IT'S NEVER ANY FUN TO BE
CALLED UP IN FRONT OF THE
LEGISLATURE TO BE ACCOUNTABLE
FOR X OR Y, BUT THEY HAVE THE
ACTACTACT TO DO THAT.
SO I THINK HAVING AN OPEN
RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM IS THE
KEY.
>> ANDREA PALM, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NOW TO AGRICULTURE NEWS OUT
OF THE CAPITOL.
A BIPARTISAN PACKAGE OF BILLS
HAS BEEN INTRODUCED AIMING TO
HELP FAMILY FARMERS OF ALL AGES,
INCLUDING REDUCING STUDENT LOAN
DEBT FOR NEW FARMERS AND HELPING
OLDER FARMERS PLAN FOR THE NEXT
GENERATION TO TAKE OVER.
ONE OF THE COSPONSORS IS
REPUBLICAN SENATOR PATRICK
TESTIN, WHO JOINS US NOW FROM
STEVENS POINT.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
>> GREAT TO BE ON.
>> WHAT'S DIFFERENCE ABOUT
HANDING DOWN THE FAMILY FARM
THAN IN THE PAST AND HOW WILL
THIS BILL HELP THAT?
>> WELL, FARM SUCCESSION, IT'S A
REALLY TOUGH DISCUSSION, AND
CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW WHEN YOU
TAKE A LOOK AT THE AVERAGE AGE
OF OUR FARMERS, IT'S APPROACHING
57 YEARS OLD.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT NEXT
GENERATION TO TAKE OVER THAT
FAMILY FARM.
AS A RESULT OF THAT, WE'VE SEEN
A RECORD NUMBER OF BANKRUPTCIES
OF OUR SMALL FAMILY FARMS.
WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THOSE TO
DISAPPEAR IN RURAL WISCONSIN.
THEY HAVE SERVED AS A BACKBONE
OF OUR ECONOMY SINCE THE
FOUNDING OF OUR STATE.
WE WANT OUR FARMERS TO HAVE
THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WE THINK
THE BILL IS GOING TO DO JUST
THAT SO WE CAN ENSURE SMALL
FAMILY FARMS REMAIN A STAPLE IN
OUR RURAL COMMUNITIES.
>> IN THE PAST IN OLDER
GENERATIONS IT WAS USUALLY THE
OLDEST SON WOULD TAKE OVER THE
FARM AND WORK ON IT AND INHERIT
AND A LOT OF THE OTHER CHILDREN
MIGHT BE OFF ON THEIR OWN.
NOWADAYS IT SEEMS LIKE THE
PARENTS WANT TO SPLIT IT UP
EVENLY AND THAT US CAUSES ISSUES
WITH ONE CHILD NOT BEING ABLE TO
AFFORD TO BUY OUT THE REST.
WILL THIS HELP THAT?
>> WE HOPE SO.
TODAY'S AGRICULTURE ECONOMY IS
REALLY BIG BUSINESS.
IT'S INTENSIVE.
THAT'S ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS
WHY YOU'RE SEEING LELS SEEING LESS AND LESS
PEOPLE TAKING OVER THE FAMILY
FARM.
IT'S RIG WUS WORK.
WE HAVE LOW COMMODITY PRICES.
WITH THE TRADE WAR GOING ON, WE
NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE
RESOURCES AVAILABLE FOR THAT
SUCCESSION, THAT WHEN FARMERS
ARE NEARING THE END OF THEIR
CAREER AND THEY'RE GOING TO HANG
UP THEIR BOOTS, THAT WHEN THEY
SIT DOWN, HAVE THESE
DISCUSSIONS, IT'S NOT SO
DIFFICULT.
THIS IS WHAT THIS BILL AIMS TO
DO IS START THAT PROCESS, LAY
OUT A PLAN AND ENSURE THAT WHEN
THEY HAND DOWN THE FARM TO
EITHER A FAMILY MEMBER OR
SOMEONE ELSE, THAT IT'S A SMOOTH
TRANSITION.
>> YOU MENTIONED THE TRADE WAR.
HOW HAVE DONALD TRUMP'S
AGRICULTURE TARIFFS AFFECTED
FARMERS IN YOUR DISTRICT?
>> I'VE HAD A LOT OF
CONVERSATIONS WITH REMEMBER
FAKERSWITH FARMERSTHROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
MANY ARE TRYING TO GIVE HIM THE
BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT.
THEY WANT FREE TRADE, FAIR
TRADE.
THEY'RE OPTIMISTIC, HOLDING OUT
THAT WE CAN GET NEW DEALS PUT IN
PLACE FOR THE USMC AND NEW TRADE
DEAL WITH CHINA TO ADDRESS THESE
ISSUES AND ENSURE THAT IT'S
EQUITABLE ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> DO YOU SUPPORT THIS PATH OF
INTRODUCING TARIFFS TO FORCE
THIS ISSUE?
>> WELL, REALLY, I MEAN, IT'S A
-- FOR ME, I'M A FREE TRADE GUY,
BUT THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES
WHERE I THINK FOR YEARS
COUNTRIES LIKE CHINA HAVE TAKEN
ADVANTAGE OF THE U.S.
AND SO IN THIS PARTICULAR
INSTANCE I'M TRYING TO GIVE THE
PRESIDENT THE BENEFIT OF THE
DOUBT TO GO TO THE NEGOTIATING
TABLE, HOPEFULLY HAVE THE
CHINESE GOVERNMENT COME TO THE
TABLE AND COME TO AN AGREEMENT
ON NEW DEALS IN THE BEST
INTEREST OF NOT ONLY WISCONSIN,
BUT THE U.S. AS WELL AS CHINA.
>> NOW, OTHER BILLS INCLUDE A
PROPOSAL TO HELP STUDENT LOAN
DEBT FOR NEW FARMERS.
DO YOU SUPPORT THAT BILL?
IS THERE REALLY STUDENT LOAN
DEBT THAT'S PREVENTING FARMERS
FROM GETTING INTO THIS INDUSTRY?
>> WELL, STUDENT LOAN DEBT'S A
BIG ISSUE.
I READ AN ARTICLE YESTERDAY THAT
STUDENT LOAN DEBT IS PUSHING
AROUND $23 BILLION.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SIMPLE COST
TO GET INTO AGRICULTURE,
HARVESTER CAN COST UP TO
$500,000.
THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF
CASH.
SO THIS BILL IS GOING TO HELP
ALLEVIATE SOME OF THE HURDLES OF
ENTRY INTO FARMING.
IT'S CERTAINLY WORTH HAVING THAT
CONVERSATION AND SEE IF THERE'S
SUPPORT FOR IT.
>> THERE'S BEEN A PUSH FOR
LOOKING AT STUDENT LOAN DEBT FOR
ALL BORROWERS.
WOULD YOU LOOK AT THE ENTIRE
STUDENT LOAN PACK INDUSTRY?
>> IT'S REALLY TOUGH BECAUSE A
LOT OF THIS IS DICTATED BY THE
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
BUT IF THERE WERE WAYS THAT WE
CAN TRY AND REFINANCE LOANS, I'M
CERTAINLY OPEN TO THAT
CONVERSATION.
THE TRICKY PART IS IS THAT
STUDENT LOAN DEBT, IT'S A RISKY
BUSINESS BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE 18,
19 YEARS OLD YOU DON'T HAVE A
LONG CREDIT HISTORY.
THAT'S A HUGE RISK.
IF WE COULD FIND A PROPOSAL THAT
IF THERE'S BEEN A FISCALLY
RESPONSIBLE BORROWER WHO HAS HAD
A STRONG CREDIT HISTORY, MAYBE
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO REFINANCE
THEIR STUDENT LOAN DEBT AND
PURSUE OPTIONS.
THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSIONS THAT WE
SHOULD CREATE AN AUTHORITY HERE
WITHIN THE STATE OF WISCONSIN,
BUT THE TRADEOFF IS IS THAT IF
WE WERE TO GO TO A STATE OPTION,
BORROWERS WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT
WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN IF THEY
TOOK THAT OPTION BECAUSE IT
COULD MEAN YOUR LOSE YOUR
INCOME-BASED REPAYMENT PLANS AND
OTHER PLANS PROVIDED THROUGH THE
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.
>> SENATOR TESTIN, THANK YOU FOR
YOUR TIME TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THERE ARE MORE THAN CHANGES
TO THE PROPOSED FOXCONN
OPERATION IN WISCONSIN.
THE COMPANY PUT OUT A STATEMENT
THAT LOUIS WOO, THE EXECUTIVE
WHO LED MUCH OF THE PROJECT, IS
STEPPING DOWN FOR PERSONAL
REASONS.
IT'S JUST THE LATEST GOMENT DEVELOPMENT
THAT HAS OFFICIALS WONDERING IF
FOXCONN WILL DELIVER 13,000 JOBS
TO WILLS.
IT'S NOT JUST OFFICIALS.
HOMEOWNERS WHO LOST THEIR
PROPERTY ARE NOT HAPPY EITHER.
JOINING US NOW IS WISCONSIN
PUBLIC RADIO'S CORRINNE HEES, HESS,
WHO HAS NEW REPORTING ON THE
TOPIC.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NOW, WHO ARE THESE HOMEOWNERS
THAT SOLD THEIR LAND AWAY TO
MAKE WAY FOR FOXCONN AND WHY ARE
THEY NOT HAPPY NOW?
>> WELL, FROM THE BEGINNING OF
THE PROJECT, MOUNT PLEASANT SAID
THAT THEY WOULD ACQUIRE ALL OF
THIS PROPERTY FOR FOXCONN.
IT'S ABOUT 3,000 ACRES.
SO WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY BEGAN
SENDING LETTERS TO HOMEOWNERS
LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEIR
PROPERTY WOULD BE TAKEN THROUGH
A PROCESS CALLED EMINENT DOMAIN.
AND SOME OF THESE HOMEOWNERS
HAVE REALIZED THAT THE ROAD
PROJECTS THAT THEY WERE TOLD
ABOUT ARE NOT HAPPENING.
AND SO THEY'RE PRETTY UPSET.
>> NOW, FOR THE PEOPLE -- THERE
ARE STILL PEOPLE STAYING THAT
HAVE REFUSED TO MOVE.
DO THEY WANT A BETTER DEAL TO
MOVE OUT OR ARE THEY LOOKING TO
STAY THERE PERMANENTLY?
>> THERE IS A WOMAN WHO HAS
REFUSED TO MOVE, KIM MAHONEY.
SHE HAS SINCE BEEN TOLD THEY
DON'T WANT HER PROPERTY ANYMORE.
THERE IS ANOTHER COUPLE, KATHY
AND RODNEY JENSEN.
THEIR PROPERTY, THEY WERE TOLD
THAT THE VILLAGE WANTED .13
ACRES FOR A ROAD PROJECT, BUT
THEY WERE GOING TO TAKE ALL
THREE ACRES OF THE PROPERTY.
THEY DID NOT MOVE.
THE VILLAGE HAS SINCE BOUGHT
THEIR LAND AND THEY'RE IN A
FEDERAL LAWSUIT RIGHT NOW.
>> SO ARE THERE PEOPLE THAT
ACTUALLY WANT TO GO BACK THERE
OR IS THIS ABOUT MONEY AT THIS
POINT?
>> WELL, THE THING IS IS THAT
THEY CAN'T GO BACK.
ALL OF THESE HOMES HAVE BEEN
BULLDOZED.
SO THERE'S NOTHING TO GO BACK
TO.
AND IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT MONEY.
THE PEOPLE THAT I'VE TALKED TO
ARE PRETTY HAPPY WITH WHAT
THEY'VE GOTTEN.
THEY GOT WELL ABOVE THE ASSESSED
VALUE OF THEIR HOMES.
IT'S MORE ABOUT HOW THE VIL
LAINLVILLAGEWENT ABOUT ACQUIRING THE
PROPERTY AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE
THEY WERE TOLD IN RELATION TO
WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN THERE.
>> DO YOU GET A SENSE THAT THE
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
UNDER TONY EVERS IS HANDLING
THIS ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN WHEN
SCOTT WALKER WAS IN CHARGE?
>> NO.
I REALLY DON'T.
I REACHED OUT TO THE DEPARTMENT
OF TRANSPORTATION.
THEY REALLY DID NOT TALK TO ME
AT ALL.
I WAS GIVEN DOCUMENTS UNDER THE
OPEN RECORDS LAW.
BUT THEY DID NOT AGREE TO ANY
INTERVIEWS.
>> AND WILL ANY OF THESE
CONNECTOR ROADS EVER GET BUILT
OR WILL DOT BE WAITING UNTIL
FOXCONN ACTUALLY STARTS
MANUFACTURING SOMETHING?
>> YOU KNOW, THERE IS SOME ROAD
WORK BEING DONE, BUT DEFINITELY
NOT TO THE EXTENT THAT WAS
ORIGINALLY PLANNED.
>> SO IS THE END RESULT OF THIS
MOSTLY JUST ILL WILL BETWEEN THE
PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND THE
VILLAGE THAT WENT ABOUT WORKING
FOR FOXCONN AND THE STATE?
>> UNFORTUNATELY, YES.
THE PEOPLE THAT I TALKED TO AND
OTHERS, THEY'VE BEEN PACKING
THESE VILLAGE MEETINGS AND THERE
IS A LOT OF ILL WILL DOWN THERE
RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT GETS
REPAIRED.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CORRINNE HESS REPORTING FROM
MILWAUKEE, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NOW TO POLITICS AND THE
RESULTS OF THE LATEST MARQUETTE
UNIVERSITY LAW SCHOOL POLL.
HERE WITH THE RESULTS OF THE NEW
SURVEY IS THE DIRECTOR OF THE
POLL, CHARLES FRANKLIN.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AGAIN.
>> GOOD TO BE HERE.
>> SO WE'RE 14 MONTHS OUT FROM
NOVEMBER OF 2020 AND DONALD
TRUMP IS EITHER TRAILING OR TIED
WITH THE TOP FOUR DEMOCRATS IN
YOUR POLL.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
WE SEE JOE BIDEN WITH A
NINE-POINT LEAD, FOLLOWED BY
BERNIE SANDERS WITH A FOUR-POINT
LEAD.
BUT THEN ELIZABETH WARREN TIES
AT 45 AND HARRIS TIES AT 44.
WE ASKED ABOUT THOSE FOUR
CANDIDATES BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN
IN THE TOP FOUR IN NATIONAL
POLLING AVERAGES.
WE'LL CHANGE THAT AS THE
CANDIDATES CHANGE.
>> WITH REGARDS TO THE NEITHER
CATEGORY, THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH
WHAT WE SAW IN 2016.
YOU'VE TOLD US IN THE PAST THOSE
PEOPLE DO ACTUALLY MAKE A
CHOICE.
>> I THINK THAT'S GENERALLY
RIGHT.
NOW, IN 2016 WE SAW AN UNUSUALLY
LARGE THIRD-PARTY VOTE HERE.
AND WE ALSO SAW NEARLY 100,000
FEWER VOTERS GOING TO THE POLLS
IN 2016 COMPARED TO 2012.
SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE WAYS THAT
YOU CAN CHOOSE TO VOTE FOR
WITHIN OF THE TWO PARTIES
ANYWAY, VOTE FOR A THIRD PARTY
OR STAY HOME.
WE SAW ALL OF THAT AT WORK IN
2016.
>> NOW, TRUMP'S APPROVAL RATING
IS ALSO UPSIDE DOWN AND NOT
CHANGED SINCE APRIL.
SO IS WISCONSIN STILL THE
PROVERBIAL SWING STATE?
>> I THINK WE ARE THE SWING
STATE.
AND THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS
IS OF THE LAST FIVE PRESIDENTIAL
ELECTIONS HERE, THREE OF THEM
HAVE BEEN DIVIDED BY LESS THAN
ONE PERCENTAGE POINT.
THE GOVERNOR'S RACE WAS DECIDED
BY JUST OVER ONE PERCENTAGE
POINT LAST YEAR.
SO THE IDEA THAT WE ARE ANYTHING
OTHER THAN A SWING STATE I THINK
IS JUST WRONG.
PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FAVORABILITY
RATINGS ARE A BIT BETTER HERE
NOW THAN THEY WERE IN '16,
THOUGH THEY ARE STILL UNDER
WATER, AS IS HIS JOB APPROVAL.
SO HE'S IN SOME WAYS IN BETTER
SHAPE NOW THAN HE WAS THERE, BUT
IN OTHER WAYS HE'S STILL FALLING
SHORT OF THAT 50% APPROVAL WHICH
HE'S NEVER HIT IN OUR POLLING.
>> AND YOU MENTIONED THE
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.
WISCONSIN COMES IN APRIL, PRETTY
LATE IN THE PROCESS.
HOW MUCH SHOULD WE TAKE INTO
THOSE NUMBERS NOW?
HOW MUCH WILL CHANGE BY THEN?
>> ALL OF THESE NUMBERS SHOULD
BE THOUGHT OF AS WE'RE IN THE
MIDDLE OF THE SECOND INNING OF
THE BALL GAME.
IT'S A LONG WAY TO THE BOTTOM OF
THE NINTH AND A FINAL SCORE.
BUT WE WANT TO WATCH HOW THE
GAME PROGRESSES, WHICH TEAMS
RALLY AND WHICH FALL OFF
THROUGHOUT THE COURSE.
SO I THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO
LOOK AT IT.
NOT AS THESE ARE PREDICTIONS.
IN THE DEM PRIMARY WE SAW BIDEN
IN FIRST PLACE AT 28 FOLLOWED BY
SANDERS AT 20 AND WARREN AT 17.
SO THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT
WE'RE SEEING IN NATIONAL
POLLING.
BUT AGAIN A LONG TIME TO GO.
AND THEY'VE BEEN BUSY PAYING
ATTENTION TO IOWA.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN AS MUCH OF THOSE
CANDIDATES YET.
>> MEANWHILE, THINKING ABOUT THE
ECONOMY, PEOPLE THINK IT'S DOING
OKAY NOW, BUT THEY'RE NOT
OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE FUTURE.
>> THEY'RE MORE PESSIMISTIC
ABOUT THE FUTURE THAN WE'VE SEEN
SINCE JANUARY 2012.
A NET NEGATIVE 11 SAY THE
ECONOMY WILL GET WORSE OVER THE
NEXT YEAR RATHER THAN BETTER.
AND THE AVERAGE FOR 2019 ACROSS
THREE POLLS IS NEGATIVE THREE.
AT NO POINT IN THE TIME THAT
WE'VE BEEN DOING THE POLL HAS
ANY INDIVIDUAL POLL BEEN NET
NEGATIVE AND CERTAINLY NOT THE
AVERAGE FOR A YEAR.
NOW, THAT'S THREE POLLS TAKEN
SINCE JANUARY HERE AND OPINIONS
OF THE ECONOMY CAN FLUK IT WA.
--
FLUCTUATE.
WE HAD AN OKAY JOBS REPORT
TODAY, FOR EXAMPLE.
BUT I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY A
WARNING SIGN THAT THE PUBLIC
THAT HAS BEEN VERY POSITIVE
ABOUT THE ECONOMY SINCE 2017, AT
LEAST, IS NOW BEGINNING TO SEE
SOME CONCERNS ON THE HORIZON.
>> AND IN REGARDS TO POLLING AND
HOW PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THIS,
CONSUMER OPTIMISM DOES MATTER
WHEN IT COMES TO HOW IT PLAYS
OUT IN THE ECONOMY, WHETHER
PEOPLE SPEND MONEY.
>> IT ABSOLUTELY DOES BECAUSE
YOU NEED TO BE OPTIMISTIC ABOUT
WHAT'S COMING BEFORE YOU GO GET
THAT NEW CAR OR REFRIGERATOR OR
BUY A NEW HOUSE.
YOU KNOW, THE GOOD NEWS IS OUR
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IS STILL
EXCEPTIONALLY LOW.
BUT THIS NOTION THAT PEOPLE ARE
FEELING UNCERTAIN ABOUT THE
FUTURE IS SOMETHING TO WORRY
ABOUT.
IT MEANS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP
DOES NOT HAVE AS HIGH AN
APPROVAL ON THE ECONOMY HERE.
IT'S 49 TO 50.
AS HE HAS SEEN IN SOME NATIONAL
POLLING EARLIER IN THE YEAR,
WHEN HE WAS GETTING 53 TO 55%.
>> I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON GUN
CONTROL AND UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND
CHECKS.
IN YOUR NOTES ON THE POLL, YOU
MENTION WHICH MASS SHOOTINGS
CAME BEFORE THE POLL AND WHICH
ONES CAME OVER.
BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MATTER
ANYMORE.
ONE THEY'RE COMING SO OFTEN BUT,
TWO, IT HASN'T CHANGED.
>> IT HASN'T.
I THINK THAT REFLECTS HOW MANY
MASS SHOOTINGS THERE HAVE BEEN.
WE SAW A LITTLE RISE IN SUPPORT
FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS FROM THE
'70s TO THE '80s OVER THE
LAST FEW YEARS, BUT FOR THE LAST
TWO OR THREE YEARS IT'S BEEN
AROUND 80%.
IT'S 80% THIS TIME.
THAT INCLUDES OVER 75% OF GUN
HOUSEHOLDS AND OVER 80% OF
NON-GUN HOUSEHOLDS.
81% SUPPORT RED FLAG LAWS, AGAIN
IN BOTH GUN AND NON-GUN
HOUSEHOLDS.
IT'S BANNING ASSAULT WEAPONS
THAT MORE DIVISIVE.
56 OR 57% STILL SUPPORT THAT.
BUT NOW GUN HOUSEHOLDS ARE
EVENLY DIVIDED SO THERE'S MORE
DIVISION ON THAT ISSUE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
CHARLES FRANKLIN, THANKS FOR
YOUR TIME.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NOW FOR SOME POLITICAL
CUMMINGS AND GOINGS.
REPUBLICAN U.S. REPRESENTATIVE
JIM SENSENBRENNER ANNOUNCED THIS
WEEK HE WILL NOT SEEK ANOTHER
TERM IN CONGRESS.
HE WAS FIRST ELECTED IN 1978.
HIS RETIREMENT IS ALREADY
SETTING UP A LARGE REPUBLICAN
PRIMARY FOR NEXT YEAR.
TO THE EAST, IN THE CITY OF
MILWAUKEE, DEMOCRATIC STATE
SENATOR LENA TAYLOR ANNOUNCED
SHE'S RUNNING FOR MAJOR.
INCUMBENT MAYOR TOM BARRETT HAS
YET TO ANNOUNCE IF HE'S RUNNING
FOR REELECTION.
GOVERNOR EVERS HAS MADE HIS
FINAL CHOICE FOR HIS CABINET.
THIS WEEK, EVERS NOMINATED MISSY
HUGHES, WHO IS COMING FROM THE
ORGANIC VALLEY COOP.
THAT'S ALL FOR TONIGHT.
FREDERICA FREYBERG RETURNS NEXT
WEEK.
I'M ZAC SCHULTZ.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
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