- MORE POLITICS AND ELECTION COVERAGE NOW WITH AN INSIDE LOOK
AT TUESDAY'S SPECIAL ELECTION RESULTS.
THAT'S WHEN DEMOCRAT CALEB FROSTMAN BEAT ANDRE JACQUE IN
THE FIRST SENATE DISTRICT AND JON PLUMER BEAT ANN GROVES LLOYD
IN THE 42nd DISTRICT.
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR NOVEMBER?
WE TURN TO CAPITOL CONSULTANTS' BILL MCCOSHEN AND SCOT ROSS.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
I READ IT WAS THE BLUE WAVE HITTING THE RED WALL.
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THE OUTCOME OF THESE ELECTIONS?
- I WOULD SAY THIS, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE HEADLINE
REPORTER.
THAT IS A DEMOCRATIC VICTORY, LEST WE NOT FORGET THAT IT CAME
IN A PLACE A DEMOCRAT HASN'T HELD SINCE 1977.
SO IT IS A GREAT INDICATION THAT PEOPLE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE
ARE ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT RUNNING TO THE POLLS.
THEY CERTAINLY DID THAT.
IT BODES REALLY POORLY FOR SCOTT WALKER CONSIDERING THAT'S THE
MARKET WHERE ELECTIONS STATEWIDE ARE WON AND LOST.
- BILL?
- I THINK THERE'S SOME TRUTH TO THE HEADLINE.
IF YOU LOOK BACK TO JANUARY, THE DEMOCRATIC WON A VERY REPUBLICAN
SEAT, BUT WON HANDILY.
SO TO THE EXTENT THERE WAS A BLUE WAVE IN WISCONSIN, THERE
WAS THE CREST IN JANUARY.
TUESDAY NIGHT YOU HAD A REPUBLICAN WIN A SEAT IN DANE
COUNTY.
THIS SHOULD BE THE EPICENTER OF THE BLUE WAVE.
TO THE EXTENT DEMOCRATS CAN ACTIVATE AND MOBILIZE, IT SHOULD
BE DANE COUNTY, RIGHT?
JON PLUMER WON IT BY EIGHT POINTS.
THE BLUE WAVE IS DISSIPATING, AT BEST.
- SUPREME COURT JUSTICE REBECCA DAL BDALLET WOULD PROBABLY DISAE
WITH YOU.
ONE THING ABOUT THE 42nd DISTRICT.
THERE ARE SEATS THAT HAVE A HIGHER DEMOCRATIC SEAT THAN THE
42nd.
THAT WAS A TOUGH DRAW FOR THE DEMOCRATS FOR THAT ONE TO BE ON
THE BALLOT.
SIMPLE AS THAT.
- I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT ERIC HOLDER'S GROUP, THE FORMER OBAMA
ATTORNEY GENERAL AND THAT GROUP'S EFFORTS TO FLIP
WISCONSIN.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
- SO THEY'RE TWO FOR TWO.
THEY PLAYED HARD IN THE SUPREME COURT RACE AND WERE SUCCESSFUL.
THEY PLAYED HARD IN THE FIRST SENATE DISTRICT.
IT'S HARD TO TELL HOW MUCH THEY DID IN THE 42nd.
BUT THEY HELPED FLIP THE FIRST SENATE DISTRICT.
DO THEY HAVE STAYING POWER?
REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A DIFFERENT ELECTORATE IN NOVEMBER THAN ON
TUESDAY.
IN THE FIRST SENATE DISTRICT ALONE THERE WILL BE AT LEAST
50,000 MORE VOTERS THAN THERE WERE ON TUESDAY.
WHEN THE PERCENTAGES NORMALIZE THEMSELVES, THAT SHOULD HELP
ANDRE JACQUE HAVE A REAL SHOT TO TAKE THAT SEAT BACK 142 DAYS
FROM NOW.
- DO YOU THINK ERIC HOLDER'S GROUP IS GOING TO PLAY THE
FIELD?
- I WOULD HOPE SO.
EVERY BIT HELPS.
AND I THINK IT SHOWS THE OPPORTUNITY HERE IN THE STATE OF
WISCONSIN FOR DEMOCRATS, THE FACT THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO
COME HERE AND SPEND MONEY.
AGAIN, BACK TO THE 1ST SENATE DISTRICT AND THE GREEN BAY
MARKET.
WHEN DEMOCRATS WIN A STATEWIDE ELECTION, THEY GET ABOUT 51% IN
THAT MARKET.
WHEN THEY LOSE, THEY GET ABOUT 40%.
SCOTT WALKER WAS THE FIRST DAY IN EIGHT DAYS HE HADN'T BEEN UP
THERE.
SO HE RECOGNIZES THAT WHEN HE'S HEMORRHAGING THINGS UP THERE,
WHETHER IT'S THE 1ST SENATE DISTRICT FOR REBECCA DALLET
GETTING 52% UP THERE.
IT'S A PROBLEM FOR HIM COME NOVEMBER.
- AS RELATES TO HOLDER, THEY HAD A NAME REDISTRICTING IN IT.
HE'S NOW PROVEN THAT YOU CAN WIN IN WISCONSIN AS A DEMOCRAT IF
YOU HAVE THE RIGHT CANDIDATE FOR THE RIGHT SEAT.
THEY'VE DONE IT IN THE 10TH AND THE 1 STR.
- SO WE HAVEN'T TALKED SINCE THE WISCONSIN BROADCAST
ASSOCIATION HAD TO CANCEL THEIR DEBATE BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE THAT WERE GOING TO BE INCLUDED.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE NUMBER OF CANDIDATES RUNNING IN THIS
DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY, HOW DID THIS HELP OR HURT THOSE CANDIDATES,
THE SHEER SIZE OF THE FIELD?
- I'D SAY IT HELPS SCOTT WALKER, NUMBER ONE.
THE FACT THAT THERE WON'T BE A STATEWIDE DEBATE, NOT A LOT OF
DEMOCRATS KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE.
THERE WILL BE A NEW MARQUETTE LAW POLL OUT NEXT WEEK AND ONE A
MONTH FOR THE REST OF THE CYCLE.
BUT NONE OF THEM APPEAR TO BE GAINING MUCH MOMENTUM.
NONE OF THEM ARE GETTING ANY SEPARATION FROM THE PACK.
SO A STATEWIDE TELEVISED DEBATE WOULD HAVE BEEN IN ALL OF THEIR
INTEREST AND CANCELLING THAT IS ABSOLUTELY A WIN FOR SCOTT
WALKER.
- WHO DO YOU THINK IT HELPS OR HURTS?
- I THINK IT HELPS THE DEMOCRATS, BECAUSE NOT HAVING
ONE SINGLE DEBATE, LET'S NOT KID OURSELVES.
THE CRITERIA FOR WHAT THE BROADCASTER WANTED TO DO WOULD
ELIMINATE OVER HALF OF THE CANDIDATES WHO ARE ON THE
BALLOT.
THE DEMOCRATS ARE TRAVELING AROUND THE STATE.
THEY'RE GETTING MEDIA, TALKING ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT THEY THINK
WILL MOVE THE STATE FORWARD AND WHAT DIFFERENTIATES THEM FROM
THEIR OPPONENTS AS WELL AS SCOTT WALKER.
I THINK IT HELPS DEMOCRATS.
I DON'T THINK IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
THE THREE OF US AND MAYBE 20 OTHER PEOPLE WERE GOING TO WATCH
IT ANYWAY.
- APPARENTLY THERE IS ANOTHER ONE BEING PUT TOGETHER.
BUT BRIEFLY, WITH ABOUT A MINUTE LEFT, ALL OF THIS TRADE WAR
STUFF HAPPENING WITH DONALD TRUMP, HOW DOES THAT AFFECT
SCOTT WALKER AND HIS KIND OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE PRESIDENT?
- WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE ANY SEPARATION
BETWEEN GOVERNOR WALKER AND PRESIDENT TRUMP OVER THE NEXT
142 DAYS.
AS RELATES TO THOSE TRADE WARS, IT'S DICEY.
OUR FARMERS ARE VERY NERVOUS ABOUT THEM.
CANADA IMPOSES HUGE TARIFFS.
WE HOPE THE PRESIDENT IS SUCCESSFUL ON THIS.
IF THEY DON'T HAVE NEW DEALS BY LABOR DAY, COULD BE PROBLEMS FOR
REPUBLICANS.
- SCOTT WALKER IS TIED TO THE HIP WITH DONALD TRUMP AND THAT'S
DISASTROUS FOR HIM COME NOVEMBER.
- WE HAVE TO LEAVE IT THERE.