>> PRESENTATION OF "HERE & NOW"
IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE
ANIMAL DENTISTRY AND ORAL
SURGERY SPECIALISTS OF MILWAUKEE
AND OSHKOSH, A VETERINARY TEAM
WORKING WITH PET OWNERS AND
FAMILY VETERINARIANS THROUGHOUT
WISCONSIN, PROVIDING CARE FOR
ORAL DISEASE AND DENTAL PROBLEMS
OF SMALL COMPANION ANIMALS.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR "HERE &
NOW" IS PROVIDED BY THE LE
PHILLIPS FAMILY FOUNDATION.
>> I WAS IN AND OUT OF
CONSCIOUSNESS.
I REMEMBER LIKE COME TO GO AND
SEEING COPS AND COMING TO AND
SEEING AMBULANCE AND I'D FALL
BACK OUT.
>> A FORMER HEROIN ADDICT LIVES
TO TELL ABOUT ONE OF THE TIMES
HE OVERDOSED.
I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
TONIGHT ON "HERE & NOW,", BUT
FIRST IN A TWO-PART SERIES ON
THE TOLL HEROIN IS TAKING IN
WISCONSIN.
AFTER THAT, WE GO TO JANESVILLE
TO SEE HOW CONGRESS'S FAILURE TO
EXTEND UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS IS
SPIKING NUMBERS AT THE LOCAL JOB
CENTER.
AND LATER A UW PROFESSOR WHO
BECAME AN EXPERT ON BAMBLING
ADDICTION THE HARD WAY.
AND THE STATE INHERITED MORE
THAN 1800 ACRES OF LAND TODAY.
THE STATE DNR SECRETARY IS HERE
TO TALK ABOUT THAT.
PLUS OUR MONTHLY "CAPITOL
INSIGHT" SEGMENT WITH SHAWN
JOHNSON OF WISCONSIN PUBLIC
RADIO.
BUT FIRST WE BEGIN WITH WHAT THE
STATE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT IS
CALLING AN EPIDEMIC.
HAIR REUPB INHEROIN IN WISCONSIN IS NO LONGER
LIMITED TO BACK ALLEYS.
IT HAS SPREAD TO SMALL TOWNS AND
ALL REACHES OF WISCONSIN.
THE NUMBERS HAVE JUMPED NEARLY
400% OVER FIVE YEARS.
THIS WEEK, WE TOUCHED DOWN IN
ROCK COUNTY, A GATEWAY TO
WISCONSIN, AND WHERE THE BATTLE
IS ON AGAINST HEROIN.
>> IF IT CAN SAVE ONE PERSON'S
LIFE, I GUESS THAT'S MY GOAL.
HEROIN IS OVERLOOKED.
PEOPLE SAY IT CAN'T HAPPEN TO
THEM.
AND I BELIEVE I'M A PERSON WHO
ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT.
>> THIS JANESVILLE MOTHER DOES
NOT WANT TO BE SEEN ON CAMERA.
SHE DOES NOT WANT HER SON'S NAME
USED.
HE WAS 18 WHEN HE FATALLY
OVERDOSED ON HEROIN TWO YEARS
AGO.
HE HAD BEEN COLLEGE-BOUND.
>> HOW DID YOU FIND OUT THAT'S
WHAT HE WAS DOING?
>> THE DAY HE DIED.
I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS USING
HEROIN.
I HAD NO CLUE.
I KNEW HE HAD SMOKED POT, BUT I
HAD NO CLUE.
>> AUTHORITIES CALL THIS AN
ALARMING TREND, YOUNG PEOPLE
JUMPING FROM MARIJUANA DIRECTLY
TO HEROIN.
AND THE STRENGTH AND PURITY OF
THE DRUG TODAY MAKE OVERDOSES
MORE LIKELY.
>> OUR OVERDOSE DEATH STATISTICS
WOULD BE THROUGH THE ROOF IF IT
WASN'T FOR THE QUALITY EMS WE
HAVE IN WISCONSIN.
>> THE NEXT THING I KNOW MY
DAD'S BREAKING DOWN THE DOOR.
I'M LAYING ON THE FLOOR, BLOOD
AND STUFF COMING OUT OF MY NOSE,
FIGHTING FOR BREATH.
>> ADAM SAYS HE OVERDOSED NEARLY
FATALLY TWICE.
HE HAD BEEN A GOOD STUDENT AND A
HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETE.
>> IF YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND $20
ON A BAG OF POT OR $20 ON A BAG
OF HEROIN, 'CAUSE THE SCHOOL'S
FLOODED WITH BOTH, YOU KNOW.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THAT BANG
FOR YOUR BUCK, HEROIN'S GONNA
GET THAT FOR YOU.
>> ADAM IS NOW CLEAN AND HAS
BEEN FOR NEARLY THREE YEARS.
HE SAYS AS A TEENAGER POT
SMOKING PRODUCED TO PILL TAKING,
OXYCODONE HE FOUND IN MEDICINE
CABINETS.
SOON, HE SAYS, HE WAS SNORTING
HEROIN.
>> THE DRUG NO LONGER HAS THAT
STIGMA OF BEING AN INNER CITY,
BACK ALLEY, YOU KNOW,
INTRAVENOUS DRUG USER.
NOW FOR A $10, $20 BAG OF
HEROIN, YOU CAN GET A
SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER HIGH,
UNFORTUNATELY, AND YOU DON'T
HAVE TO INJECT THE HEROIN
ANYMORE.
YOU CAN JUST SNORT IT.
>> IT WENT FROM SNORTING HEROIN
TO EVERY OTHER DAY TO EVERY DAY
AND THEN A YEAR LATER JUST
STARTING TO SHOOT IT.
>> HEROIN USES UP NEARLY 400% IN
THE LAST FIVE YEARS IN
WISCONSIN.
COMING IN BY CAR, WHERE AT ANY
GIVEN MOMENT ALONG THE
INTERSTATES DRUG RUNNERS COULD
BE BRINGING THE HEROIN IN FROM
SOUTH OF THE BORDER.
LIKE FROM ROCK FORD, ILLINOIS,
WHICH ALONG WITH CHICAGO HAS
BECOME A HEROIN HUB IN THE
MIDWEST.
>> POLICE THERE SAY THE DRUG
COMES DIRECTLY FROM MEXICO.
>> I BELIEVE IT WAS 2009 IN
WINNEBAGO COUNTY THERE WERE 48
HEROIN DEATHS.
THAT'S A LOT.
>> THAT DEADLY TREND IS NOT
ISOLATED.
ITS SPREAD RUNS DIRECTLY NORTH
INTO WISCONSIN AND FANS OUT FROM
THERE.
>> IT'S REALLY AMAZING THAT
THERE'S AREAS IN THE STATE THAT
I WOULDN'T SUSPECT WOULD HAVE A
HEROIN CONCERN THAT ARE POPPING
UP ALL OVER THE STATE.
>> A STATE CRIME LAB MAP OF
CASES BY COUNTY SHOWS HEROIN ON
THE MOVE.
BUT ONE COUNTY MADE UP OF SMALL
CITIES AND LARGE TRACTS OF
FARMLAND, IS TAKING A DIRECT HIT
BY VIRTUE OF PLACE.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION OF ROCK
COUNTY, IT BORDERS ILLINOIS.
IT'S CLOSE, WITHIN 30 MINUTES OF
ROCKFORD.
>> ROCK COUNTY HAS RECENTLY BEEN
INCLUDED IN THE FEDERALLY
DESIGNATED HIGH INTENSITY DRUG
TRAFFICKING AREA ALONG WITH DANE
AND MILWAUKEE COUNTIES.
THE PROGRAM PROVIDES RESOURCES
AND COORDINATES DRUG CONTROL
EFFORTS AMONG LOCAL, STATE AND
FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.
THAT INCLUSION IS ESPECIALLY
MEANINGFUL IN THESE ECONOMIC
TIMES.
>> CONSIDERING THE LIMITED
RESOURCES WE HAVE, RIGHT NOW
WE'RE ALL BEING ASKED TO DO MORE
WITH LESS.
>> BUT ROCK COUNTY OFFICIALS
RECOGNIZE THAT THEY CANNOT
ARREST THEIR WAY OUT OF THIS
PROBLEM.
>> WE TRY TO FIND WAYS TO HELP
PEOPLE GET BETTER WITHOUT
INCARCERATING THEM AND LOCKING
THEY WILL UP BECAUSETHEM UP BECAUSE THAT DOESN'T
SEEM TO WORK, JUST LOCKING
PEOPLE UP WITHOUT TREATMENT.
>> MARV IS ON THE HUMAN SERVICES
BOARD IN ROCK COUNTY.
HE'S ALSO A DRUG COUNSELOR.
HE KNOWS ADAM FROM LOCAL SUPPORT
GROUP MEETINGS.
>> WE NEED TO GET -- PUT MONEY
WHERE IT'S GOING TO DO THE BEST
AND LOCKING THEM UP ISN'T WHERE
IT'S AT.
>> ESPECIALLY NOT WITH THE
SQUEEZE ON GOVERNMENT'S BUDGETS.
IN 2006 IN ROCK COUNTY THERE
WERE CALLS TO BUILD A NEW JAIL
TO HOUSE INMATES, MANY OF THEM
DRUG ABUSERS WHOSE NUMBERS
PUSHED THE JAIL TO 30% OVER
CAPACITY.
TODAY, THE JAIL IS UNDER
CAPACITY AND REQUIRED ONLY A
REMODEL.
>> GOOD MORNING.
THIS IS A SESSION OF ROCK COUNTY
DRUG COURT.
>> BECAUSE INSTEAD THE COUNTY
STARTED A DRUG TREATMENT COURT.
>> ANY URGES OR ANYTHING AT THIS
POINT?
>> THIS DAY, SIX OF THE
PARTICIPANTS, INCLUDING THIS
WOMAN, WERE THERE BECAUSE OF
HEROIN.
>> THE IDEA WAS LET'S TRY DRUG
COURT.
THAT WILL KEEP PEOPLE OUT OF
JAIL, SAVE MONEY ON THAT END,
SAVE THE COUNTY THE NEED TO
BUILD A JAIL TO HOUSE THESE
FOLKS, AND IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL,
ALSO PROVIDE FOR OPPORTUNITIES
TO GIVE TREATMENT TO BECOME DRUG
AND ALCOHOL-FREE AND DO OTHER
THINGS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY IN
THEIR LIVES.
YOU'VE WORKED HARD TO BE WHERE
YOU'RE AT AND I'M VERY PROUD OF
WHAT YOU'VE DONE.
>> JUDGE RICHARD WERNER
DESCRIBES THE COURT AS A
SUCCESS, COUNTING 92 GRADUATES,
ONLY SEVEN OF THOSE SUBSEQUENTLY
CHARGED WITH CRIMES.
>> I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THIS
PROGRAM SAVED MY LIFE.
GOING ON NINE MONTHS COMPLETELY
SOBER, FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE
I WAS 12 YEARS OLD.
IT'S BEEN THAT LONG.
>> STILL, EVEN WITH THE SUCCESS
STORY, LAW ENFORCEMENT ON THE
FRONT LINES.
>> THEY WENT THERE AND SHOT UP
AT THE TRAILER.
>> ARE SCARED BY THE CONTINUING
FLOW OF HEROIN INTO THEIR
COMMUNITY.
>> I'M SCARED BECAUSE THE DRUG
RAVAGING THE YOUTH.
IT STARTED OFF WITH KIDS IN HIGH
SCHOOL EXPERIMENTING WITH
DIFFERENT DRUGS.
ONCE THEY GET HOOKED ON THIS
STUFF, IT'S A LIFETIME
ADDICTION.
>> OR WORST.
>> I WISH I HAD MY SON BACK.
I THINK SOME DAYS IF I COULD DO
IT ALL OVER, WHAT I COULD HAVE
DONE DIFFERENTLY.
I DON'T KNOW.
BUT I WISH HE WAS HERE.
EVERY DAY.
>> AUTHORITIES DON'T HAVE A
STATEWIDE NUMBER FOR HEROIN
DEATHS, BUT WE CAN TELL YOU FOR
REFERENCE THAT MILWAUKEE COUNTY
HAD 31 LAST YEAR.
DANE COUNTY HAD EIGHT.
ROCK COUNTY HAD SEVEN.
IN A FOUR-COUNTY FOX VALLEY AREA
DRUG AGENTS THERE TELL ME SO FAR
IN 2010 THAT AREA HAS SEIZED TEN
TIMES MORE HEROIN THAN IN ALL OF
LAST YEAR.
NEXT WEEK, A CLOSER LOOK AT THE
BATTLE AGAINST HEROIN AND NEW
LAWS TO GET AT MONITORING
PRESCRIPTION OPIATES.
"HERE & NOW," TOGETHER WITH OUR
MEDIA PARTNERS AT THE WISCONSIN
CENTER FOR INVESTIGATIVE
JOURNALISM, WILL CONTINUE TO
REPORT ON ECONOMIC RECOVERY
EFFORTS IN THE ROCK COUNTY AREA
IN THE COMING WEEKS.
THIS WEEK, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT
OFFICIALS IN ROCK COUNTY
REPORTED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE
LOOKING FOR JOBS IN JUNE JUMPED,
WITH AN ADDITIONAL 3,000 CLIENTS
COMING TO THE JOB CENTER.
THAT COMES AFTER THE JOBLESS
NUMBERS HAD LEVELED OFF IN MAY.
BOB BORREMANS IS IS THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
SOUTHWEST WISCONSIN WORKFORCE
DEVELOPMENT BOARD.
HE JOINS US FROM JANESVILLE AND
THANKS A LOT FOR DOING SO.
>> YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.
>> WHAT WAS THAT SPIKE ABOUT IN
PEOPLE COMING TO THE JOB CENTER?
>> IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO
DETERMINE, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN
SOME VERY POSITIVE NUMBERS WITH
THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYED
INCREASING OVER THE LAST COUPLE
OF MONTHS, AND THEN TO SEE THIS
SPIKE OF OVER 3,000 PEOPLE
COMING INTO THE JOB CENTER IN
JUNE SURPRISED US, BECAUSE WE
THOUGHT MAYBE THE NUMBER WOULD
BE GOING DOWN AND REFLECT THE
FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE RETURNED
TO WORK.
THE ONLY THING THAT WE CAN
REALLY I GUESS PUT OUR FINGERS
ON MIGHT BE THE FACT THAT THERE
ARE A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT ARE
LOSING THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT
BENEFITS AND THEY'RE BECOMING
MORE SERIOUS ABOUT SEARCHING FOR
AA JOB AND THEY'RE COMING IN NOT
ONLY TO LOOK FOR JOB
OPPORTUNITIES, BUT TO GAIN THE
SKILLS IN RESUME WRITING AND
COMPLETING JOB APPLICATIONS THAT
ARE NEEDED TO BE SUCCESSFUL ONCE
THEY REENTER THE WORKFORCE.
>> CONGRESS FAILED TO EXTEND
THOSE BENEFITS BY TAKING A VOTE,
BUT WITH THESE PEOPLE LOSING
THOSE BENEFITS AND COMING IN,
ARE THERE JOBS TO BE HAD?
>> WELL, AGAIN, WE'VE SEEN AN
INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF JOBS,
AND SO THERE IS SOME POSITIVE
NEWS ON THAT FRONT.
BUT THE NUMBER OF UNEMPLOYED IN
THIS AREA STILL SITS AT AROUND
8,000 PEOPLE, AND THERE ARE NOT
OBVIOUSLY 8,000 JOBS FOR THOSE
FOLKS.
AND THE FACT THAT THEY NOW NO
LONGER HAVE BENEFITS AND THEY'RE
GETTING MORE SERIOUS I THINK
ABOUT LOOKING FOR WORK.
>> WHAT ABOUT SUCH DIRE
CONSEQUENCES AS A RESULT OF ALL
OF THIS AT THIS POINT AS
HOMELESSNESS?
>> WELL, WE OBVIOUSLY WORK WITH
A GROUP OF COMMUNITY-BASED
ORGANIZATIONS, AND WE HAVE FELT
FOR A LONG TIME THAT ONCE PEOPLE
LOST THEIR UNEMPLOYMENT
BENEFITS, THE SITUATION WOULD
GET WORSE.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEMS
DOWN HERE IN ROCK COUNTY SINCE
THE GENERAL MOTORS CLOSURE SEEM
TO BE AS BAD AS THEY COULD GET.
BUT WE'RE VERY, VERY CONCERNED
THAT WHEN BENEFITS ARE GONE, THE
INFRASTRUCTURE IS NO LONGER IN
PLACE TO HELP PEOPLE AND THAT
HOMELESSNESS, ADDICTIVE
BEHAVIOR, SUCH AS THE HEROIN
USE, WILL DEFINITELY INCREASE.
>> YOU WERE SAYING THAT THERE
WAS A SURVEY JUST RELEASED IN
YOUR AREA.
WHAT DID THAT SHOW?
>> THE SURVEY THAT WE WERE
TALKING ABOUT IS THE COMMUNITY
ACTION SURVEY OF THEIR NEEDS AS
THEY GO THROUGH THEIR PROGRAM
PLANNING.
AND WHAT IT'S SHOWING IS THAT OF
ALL OF THE CONDITIONS THAT
PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING, THE
STRESS OF JOBLESSNESS IS THE
HIGHEST IT'S EVER BEEN.
AND IT IS THE OVERWHELMING
FACTOR CAUSING PEOPLE TO SEEK
ASSISTANCE, MORE SO THAN THE
MORTGAGE FORECLOSURE, THE
UNEMPLOYMENT RATE.
IT'S THE STRESS CREATED BY THE
WHOLE ENVIRONMENT THAT THEY'RE
EXPERIENCING THAT IT'S CREATING
THIS PATTERN OF NEED.
>> HOW SUCCESSFUL HAVE THESE
RETRAINING PROGRAMS BEEN?
I KNOW THAT WISCONSIN HAS BEEN
THE RECENT RECIPIENT OF
DISPLACED WORKER FUNDING TOWARD
THAT AND OTHER KINDS OF FUNDING.
>> I THINK YOU'VE GOT TO LOOK AT
IT ON KIND OF TWO LEVELS.
WE'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN
BEING ABLE TO PLACE PEOPLE INTO
TRAINING PROGRAMS THAT HAVE
EARNED THEM NEW SKILLS.
NOW, MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE
COMING OUT OF SCHOOL AND
BEGINNING TO LOOK FOR WORK.
AGAIN, AS WE WERE TALKING
EARLIER, I DO NOT SEE THAT THE
NUMBER OF JOB OPPORTUNITIES HERE
THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE THAT LARGE
POOL OF NEW APPLICANTS.
AND SO WE HAVE SOME CONCERN THAT
THE LONG-TERM BENEFIT OF THE
EDUCATION WILL BE LOST BECAUSE
IF PEOPLE DO NOT USE THOSE
SKILLS, THEN THEY'RE GOING TO
LOSE THEM, IF YOU WILL.
BUT IF YOU BEGIN TO LOOK ON A
REGIONAL BASIS, I THINK THAT
THERE ARE JOB OPPORTUNITIES
OBVIOUSLY AROUND SOUTHWEST
WISCONSIN.
MADISON CONTINUES TO BE A STRONG
AREA.
WE'RE NOT FAR FROM MILWAUKEE AND
OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
THIS IS A MANUFACTURING
COMMUNITY.
WISCONSIN STILL HAS A STRONG
MANUFACTURING EMPLOYMENT BASE.
AND SO I THINK THAT THERE WILL
BE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WILL ALLOW
PEOPLE TO GO BACK TO WORK AND
NOT NECESSARILY CAUSE THEM TO
MOVE OUT OF THE AREA AND
RELOCATE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
BOB BORREMANS, THANK YOU VERY
MUCH AND GOOD LUCK.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
APPRECIATE IT.
>> WE MOVE NOW FROM THE ECONOMY
TO THE ENVIRONMENT BY WAY OF
BARABOO AND THE BADGER ARMY
AMMUNITION PLANT.
THE PLANT EMPLOYED AS MANY AS
10,000 PEOPLE AND WAS THE
LARGEST MUNITIONS PLANT IN THE
COUNTRY.
FRIDAY MORNING THE U.S. ARMY
OFFICIALLY HANDED OVER ABOUT
1800 ACRES TO THE WISCONSIN
DEPARTMENT OF NATURAL RESOURCES.
ABOUT 1500 MORE ACRES ARE
EXPECTED TO BE GIVEN TO THE DNR
IN THE COMING YEARS.
HERE TO TELL US WHAT THE DNR
PLANS TO DO WITH THIS LAND IS
DEPARTMENT SECRETARY MATT FRANK.
THANKS FOR BEING HERE NOW.
>> GREAT TO BE HERE.
THANKS.
>> WHAT IS THE ULTIMATE PLAN FOR
THIS ACREAGE?
>> THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR
PUBLIC USE AND ENJOYMENT FOR
YEARS TO COME.
OVERALL IN THE LONG RUN IT'S
GOING TO BE 3,300 ACRES ON THE
BANKS OF THE WISCONSIN RIVER.
IT'S GOING TO TIE TOGETHER THE
BARABOO HILLS, WHICH IS IS A
BEAUTIFUL SPACE, DEVIL'S LAKE
STATE PARK AND NOW WE'RE ADDING
A PRAIRIE AREA THAT WILL TAKE US
DOWN TO THE RIVER.
IT'S GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL
PLACE.
>> WHETHER WILL THE WHEN WILL THE PUBLIC BE ABLE
TO ACCESS IT?
>> IN THE SHORT TERM WE WANT TO
GET SIGNS UP SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT
AREAS IS AVAILABLE.
THE LONGER-TERM PLAN IS WE'RE
PUTTING TOGETHER A GROUP THAT
WILL HELP US PUT TOGETHER A
MASTER PLAN FOR THE AREA.
WE WANT TO GET A LOT OF PUBLIC
INPUT.
SO FOR THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS
WE'RE GOING TO BE ENGAGING THE
PUBLIC IN IDEAS ABOUT HOW TO USE
THIS PROPERTY.
THERE ARE MANY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY
PROBLEM COMING UP WITH IDEAS HOW
TO USE THIS PROPERTY.
HUNTING AND FISHING CERTAINLY
CAN BE A PART OF IT.
HIKING, BIKING, CAMPING,
WILDLIFE WATCHING.
IT'S A WONDERFUL AREA AND OVER
THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS WE'LL BE
DEVELOPING THAT PLAN.
>> IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE KIND OF
A FORMERLY SUCH A HAZARDOUS AND
CONTAMINATED SITE BEING A
NATURAL AREA.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE
SUCCESS OF THE CLEAN-UP?
>> WELL, THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF
THE LARGEST CLEAN-UPS THAT THE
ARMY HAS DEALT WITH AROUND THE
COUNTRY AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF
THE WAY IT'S WORKED HERE IN
WISCONSIN.
IT HAS BEEN A LONG ROAD.
WE DON'T WANT TO KIDS ANYBODY
THAT THIS HAS BEEN EASY.
THIS HAS BEEN COMPLEX.
THIS WAS USED AS A MUNITIONS
PLANT FOR DECADES.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF
CONTAMINATION THERE, EXPLOSIVES,
CHEMICALS USED IN THE
MUNITIONS-MAKING PROCESS.
THERE'S ASBESTOS IN THE
BUILDINGS.
SO IT'S TAKEN A LONG TIME.
BUT IT'S BEEN DONE VERY
CAREFULLY, WITH VERY CLOSE
SCRUTINY BY THE DEPARTMENT OF
NATURAL RESOURCES.
THE ARMY HAS ACCEPTED
ACCOUNTABILITY AND HAS WORKED
WITH US EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
THEY'VE ALREADY SPENT HUNDREDS
OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THIS
PROJECT AND THEY WILL SOME MORE
BEFORE IT'S OVER.
>> WHAT ABOUT LINGERING CONCERNS
ON THE PART OF NEIGHBORS ABOUT
GROUND WARTGROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION.
>> CERTAINLY THERE HAVE BEEN
LEGITIMATE CONCERNS ABOUT THE
QUALITY OF THE GROUNDWATER.
ANYTIME YOU HAVE CONTAMINATION
ON LAND TO THIS EXTENT, YOU WANT
TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF THAT IS
RECLAIMED AND ENVIRONMENTALLY,
YOU KNOW, MADE WHOLE.
BUT WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT AS WE
MOVE AHEAD, WE'LL BE ABLE TO
DEAL WITH THOSE ISSUES.
THERE'S EXTENSIVE MONITORING
THAT'S BEING USED TO MAKE SURE
WE'RE TRACKING WHERE THE
POLLUTION IS ON THE PROPERTY.
WE'RE WORKING WITH PEOPLE THAT
HAVE PRIVATE WELLS IN THAT AREA.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY
ARE DRINKING CLEAN WATER.
OUR COMMITMENT TO THIS LASTS FOR
A LONG TIME AND WE'LL CONTINUE
TO WORK ON THOSE ISSUES.
>> ALL RIGHT.
SECRETARY FRANK, THANKS VERY
MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> WE BEGAN THIS PROGRAM WITH A
LOOK AT THE TOLL DRUG ADDICTION
CAN TAKE ON A PERSON AND A
COMMUNITY.
AS WITH DRUGS, A GAMBLING ADDICT
CAN BE ANYONE, A SON, WIFE,
NEIGHBOR, EVEN A COLLEGE
PROFESSOR.
OUR NEXT GUEST, PROFESSOR SANDRA
ADELL, OF THE UW AFRO-AMERICAN
STUDIES DEPARTMENT, FOUND THIS
OUT THE HARD WAY.
SHE'S WRITTEN A BOOK ABOUT THE
EXPERIENCE CALLED "CONFESSIONS
OF A SLOT MACHINE QUEEN."
DR. ADELL JOINS US NOW AND THANK
YOU VERY MUCH FOR DOING SO.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR
HAVING ME.
>> SO WHAT HAS BEEN THE REACTION
ON THE PART OF YOUR ACADEMIC
COLLEAGUES TO YOUR CONFESSIONS
IN THIS MEMOIR?
>> EVERYONE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY
SUPPORTIVE AND THAT WAS A BIG
CONCERN FOR ME, INCLUDING THE
DEAN OF THE COLLEGE.
HE SENT ME A NOTE AND SAID THAT
HE WANTED ME TO KNOW THAT THE
PEOPLE HERE AT THE UW APPRECIATE
ALL THE THINGS I'VE DONE FOR THE
UNIVERSITY AND SO FORTH.
BUT CERTAINLY THIS KIND OF
REVEALING MEMOIR, IT CAUSED ME
CONCERN.
BUT IT HAD TO BE WRITTEN.
I MEAN, WHAT DO YOU DO?
IT HAD TO COME OUT.
>> HOW LONG DID YOU HIDE YOUR
GAMBLING ADDICTION?
>> THIS HAPPENED VERY SUDDENLY
IN 2004, APRIL 2004.
AND I HID IT FROM MYSELF AND
OTHERS FOR, WHAT, FOUR -- ALMOST
THREE OR FOUR YEARS.
BUT I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT AS AN
ADDICTION.
THAT WAS THE IMPORTANT THING.
I HAD TO UNDERSTAND, I HAD TO
LEARN THROUGH SOME REALLY BAD
EXPERIENCES THAT HAPPENED TO ME,
MY BOTTOM WAS BOTTOM ENOUGH, LET
ME PUT IT THAT WAY, BUT THROUGH
A THERAPY PROGRAM WAS ADDICTION
WAS ALL ABOUT, BECAUSE I
COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THIS AS AN
ADDICTION.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MACHINES,
SLOT MACHINES.
IT'S LIKE WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME?
HOW CAN I BECOME ADDICTED TO
SOMETHING SO STATIC, YOU KNOW.
I'M NOT EUPL IMBIBING ANYTHING.
>> HOW COULD SOMEONE AS SMART AS
YOU ARE GET DRAWN INTO THIS?
>> THAT WAS WHAT I WANTED TO TRY
TO EXPLORE.
AND SO WHEN I STARTED THIS, I
STARTED BECAUSE I WANTED TO SAY
SOMETHING'S GOING ON HERE.
IT'S THESE SPACES.
AND I'M GOING TO FIND OUT WHAT'S
THE PROBLEM.
>> YOU MEAN THE CASINO ITSELF.
>> THE SPACE OF THE CASINO
ITSELF IS SO DESIGNED TO DRAW
YOU IN.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO YOU ARE.
OF COURSE I'M SMART.
I'M -- ABOUT MONEY, ESPECIALLY.
ALSO, MY BACKGROUND, I CAME UP
IN VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES,
SO THE IDEA THAT I WOULD GET TO
THIS POINT, AFTER STRUGGLING,
RAISING MY CHILDREN AS AN UNWED
TEEN MOTHER IN DETROIT AND
ENDING UP IN A GOOD POSITION AND
RISK LOSING EVERYTHING, IT'S
LIKE SOMETHING ELSE IS GOING ON.
THIS IS NOT JUST A MATTER OF MY
WILL POWER.
BUT I STILL DIDN'T UNDERSTAND
THIS AS ADDICTION.
AND BECAUSE I'M A PROFESSOR AND
USED TO DOING MY RESEARCH, I
THOUGHT I'M GOING TO GO AND
RESEARCH THIS.
BUT WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE
RESEARCH -- AND I HAVE NOTES
AND, YOU KNOW, PAGES THAT WERE
UNPRINTABLE HERE BECAUSE IT WAS
SO ACADEMIC.
I WAS HIDING MYSELF BEHIND WHAT
I KNOW TO DO BEST.
BECAUSE TO PULL OFF ALL THE ACADEMIC
STUFF OFF AND SAY YOU HAVE A
TKPWABGBLEING ADDICTION IS MORE
THAN I CAN HANDLE.
>> YOU WENT INTO THE CASINO
SAYING THIS IS PART OF MY
RESEARCH, IT'S OKAY.
>> I WON ABOUT 1800 THE FIRST
TIME I WENT.
>> IS THAT ALL IT TOOK?
>> ALL IT TAKES FOR MANY, MANY
PEOPLE IS WHAT'S CALLED THE
EARLY WIN.
AND THE MACHINES THEMSELVES
ENTICE YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVE
SOMETHING CALLED THE NEAR MISS
WHERE, YOU KNOW, THE SYMBOLS
ALMOST LINE UP FOR THE JACKPOT
AND IT'S LIKE, OH, MY GOSH, I
ALMOST GOT IT, SO I'M GOING TO
HIT IT AGAIN.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME,
BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU IN KIND OF
THE MINUTE REMAINING, WHAT WAS
YOUR BOTTOM AND HOW DID YOU GET
OUT?
>> MY BOTTOM WAS WHEN I WAS
ARRESTED FOR DRUNKEN DRIVING IN
2007.
ACTUALLY, IT WAS JULY 10.
NO.
2009.
JULY 10.
2009.
>> SO JUST A YEAR AGO.
>> JUST A YEAR AGO, SOMETHING
HAPPENED.
I DECIDED -- AND I HAD NOT
GAMBLED FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.
BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED.
I HAD TOO MUCH TO DRINK.
I WAS ON MY WAY TO HO-CHUNK AND
I WAS ARRESTED AND TAKEN TO
JAIL.
AND RIGHT AFTER THAT I PUT
MYSELF IN OUTPATIENT INTENSIVE
THERAPY.
BUT THAT IS REALLY THE HARD PART
OF THIS WHOLE STORY FOR ME.
THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO ME.
THAT THAT WAS THE BOTTOM.
IT WAS AWFUL.
AND THE WHOLE EXPERIENCE IS
SHAMEFUL, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
>> SEU WISH WE I WISH WE HAD MORE TIME.
I'M GLAD YOU ARE OUT OF IT NOW
AND WRITTEN A BOOK FOR OTHER
PEOPLE TO BECOME AWARE THAT IT
CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE.
PROFESSOR, THANK YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> YOU CAN FIND INFORMATION
ABOUT PROBLEM GAMBLING ON OUR
WEBSITE BY GOING TO
wpt.org/hereandnow.
AND FINALLY TONIGHT LOOKING
AHEAD TO REDRAWING VOTING
DISTRICT MAPS.
>> THERE'S AN OLD SAYING THAT IN
THE OLD DAYS IT WAS VOTERS WHO
CHOSE THEIR REPRESENTATIVES.
THESE DAYS IT'S THE
REPRESENTATIVES WHO CHOOSE THEIR
VOTERS.
>> THE POLITICAL HIGH STAKES OF
REDISTRICTING IS THE TOPIC OF
OUR MONTHLY "CAPITOL INSIGHT"
THIS WEEK.
JOINING ME, SHAWN JOHNSON.
>> HI, FREDERICA.
>> I KNOW THAT THIS SOUNDS ABOUT
AS INTERESTING AS WATCHING PAINT
DRY, BUT ACTUALLY REDISTRICTING
TURNS OUT TO BE EXTREMELY
CONTENTIOUS.
EVERY TEN YEARS FOR THE PAST 50
YEARS IT HAS LANDED IN COURT.
>> IT'S HUGELY CONTENTIOUS.
IN WISCONSIN REDRAWING THE
DISTRICT LINES IS ACTUALLY THE
JOB OF THE LEGISLATURE.
IT'S REQUIRED EVERY TEN YEARS
BASED ON THE RESULTS OF THE
CENSUS.
THE REASON IT'S CONTENTIOUS, AS
PROFESSOR MAYER SAYS, IS THAT
YOU ACTUALLY HAVE LAWMAKERS
CHOOSING THEIR VOTERS.
>> IF IT'S ONE PARTY IN CHARGE,
THEN THAT PARTY GETS TO CHOOSE
THEIR VOTERS, SO THE ELECTION
THIS FALL COULD DETERMINE WHO'S
IN CHARGE FOR THE NEXT TEN
YEARS.
>> THE TIME LINE TO KEEP IN MIND
IS WE'LL KNOW AFTER THE
ELECTIONS WHAT THE PROCESS WILL
LOOK LIKE.
THE CENSUS DATA WILL START
COMING OUT IN MARCH OF 2011.
AND THAT'S WHEN THE PROCESS
BEGINS IN EARNEST.
BUT THE RULE IS THERE'S UNIFIED
GOVERNMENT, IT WILL BE FAIRLY
SMOOTH.
THERE WILL STILL BE SOME
LITIGATION, BUT IT WILL BE
CHALLENGING WHATEVER PLAN IS
DEVISED, IF THERE'S DIVIDED
GOVERNMENT, KATIE, BAR THE DOOR.
>> NOW, I DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL
BALL, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S
GOING TO BE A KATIE, BAR THE
DOOR KIND OF ELECTION BECAUSE
THIS UNIFIED GOVERNMENT IS
REALLY NOT THAT USUAL.
>> YEAH.
IT HAPPENS IN WISCONSIN, BUT
WHEN IT HAPPENS, IT'S USUALLY
FLEETING.
AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, WHEN
THEY'VE DRAWN THE MAP IN
WISCONSIN, IT GENERALLY HASN'T
HAD ONE PARTY CONTROL.
THAT SAID, I MEAN, DEMOCRATS ARE
IN CHARGE OF EVERYTHING RIGHT
NOW.
THEY CONTROL THE SENATE, THE
ASSEMBLY AND THE GOVERNOR'S
OFFICE.
SO THEY'RE EITHER IN AN ENVIABLE
OR UNENVIABLE POSITION DEPENDING
HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.
IF THEY'RE ABLE TO HOLD ON TO
ALL THREE OF THOSE, THE REMAP
PROCESS WOULD BE THEIRS NEXT
TIME AROUND.
>> AND IT WOULD LIKELY BE
SMOOTH.
IF THEY DON'T HOLD ON AND IT'S
NOT UNIFIED, THEN WE ARE LIKELY
HEADED FOR LAWSUITS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THE SENATE
DEMOCRATS HAVE ALREADY SPENT
SOME MONEY ON LAWYERS TOWARD
THAT END.
>> IT'S INHERENTLY A POLITICAL
PROCESS, AND IF ONE SIDE FEELS
LIKE THEY MIGHT GET A BETTER
DEAL IN COURT, THAT'S WHERE THEY
WILL TURN.
IN 2000, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAD
THE REPUBLICANS FILING LAWSUITS
IN STATE COURT BECAUSE THEY
THOUGHT THEY WOULD GET A BETTER
DEAL THERE AND THE DEMOCRATS
WERE FILING LAWSUITS IN FEDERAL
COURT AND IT WAS A MESSY AND
EXPENSIVE AND LENGTHY PROCESS.
>> SO AT LEAST THERE'S MONEY IN
IT FOR EXPERT WITNESSES AND
HRAURLS.
>> RIGHT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY.
I MEAN, SOME STATES HAVE
DIFFERENT SYSTEMS, WHERE THEY
HAVE INDEPENDENT COMMISSIONS
THAT DRAW THE DISTRICTS LINES
AND THEN THE LEGISLATURE VOTES
ON THOSE PLANS.
BUT PROFESSOR MAYER SAYS IT'S
NOT ALTOGETHER CLEAR THAT THE
MAPS THAT THEY COME UP WITH ARE
ACTUALLY BETTER THAN THE ONES
THAT ARE GENERATED THROUGH
WISCONSIN'S PROCESS.
>> IT JUST MAY IN THOSE
INSTANCES COST TAXPAYERS LESS
AND TAKE LESS TIME.
THANK YOU.
>> THAT IS ALL FOR THIS WEEK'S
PROGRAM.
I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
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