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>> PRESENTATION OF HERE AND NOW
IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE ANIMAL
DENTAL CENTER OF MILWAUKEE AND
OSHKOSH, A VETERINARY
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR H&N IS
PROVIDED BY THE LE PHILLIPS
FAMILY FOUNDATION.
>> IT WOULDN'T SUPRISE YOU TO
KNOW THAT FRAUDULENT CHILD CARE
PROVIDERS ARE ALSO TERRIBLE
CHILDCARE PROVIDERS.
>> THE DEPUTY SECRETARY OF THE
WISCONSIN DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN
AND FAMILIES MAKING THE
CONNECTION BETWEEN FRAUD AND
QUALITY.
TONIGHT MORE ON THE WISCONSIN
SHARES CHILDCARE PROGRAM.
ALSO TONIGHT --
A LOOK HEAD TO WHAT'S IN STORE
FOR BADGER CARE BASIC.
BUT FIRST, JEFF WOOD.
>> A LOT OF PEOPLE SEEING THAT
VIDEOTAPE, I LOOKED HORRIBLE.
>> THEY LEAVE HIS JOB IN THE
DANCE.
HE'S CONTESTING THE D.U.I.
CHARGES INCLUDING THE ARREST
CAUGHT ON THE SQUAD CAR CAMERA
HAVING BEEN GIVEN PRESCRIPTIONS
ON ALCOHOL TREATMENT.
A VOTE WHETHER TO EXPEL WOOD
FROM THE ASSEMBLY OR TAKE LESSER
ACTION IS STILL PENDING.
STEVE NAS IS NOT A COMMITTEE
MEMBER, BUT LEAD THE CHARGE TO
EXPEL REPRESENTATIVE WOOD.
THANK YOU FOR BEING
HERE.
REPRESENTATIVE NASS, WHY DO YOU
WANT SO ARDENTLY TO EXPELL
REPRESENTATIVE WOOD?
>> A PARTICULAR CONDUCT SHOULD
BE IN PLACE.
THEY DON'T EXPECT THAT THEY WILL
REPEATEDLY BEEN IN RECKLESS
BEHAVER.
>> WE SHOULD POINT OUT THAT
REPRESENTATIVE WOOD HAD AGREED
TO APPEAR ON OUR PROGRAM AND
THEN AT THE LAST MOMENT
CANCELED.
I'LL CONTINUE THEN, HE IS
CONTESTING THE D.U.I. CHARGES
LINKING THEM TO PRESCRIPTION
MEDICATION, BUT YOU DON'T
BELIEVE THAT THIS SHOULD GO
THROUGH THE COURTS BEFORE, YOU
KNOW, EXPELLING HIM, WHY NOT?
>> THE LEGISLATOR IS A
LEGISLATIVE BODY.
IT'S NOT A COURTROOM.
WHEN THE FOUNDERS OF THIS STATE
CONSTITUTION, ASSEMBLE THE
CONSTITUTION, THEY LEFT IT OPEN
THAT SOME DAY, SOME TIME,
LEGISLATORS MAY HAVE TO EXPEL
ONE OF THEIR MEMBERS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THAT
COURTROOM.
AND I THINK THE TIME HAS COME
FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO CONSIDER
THIS EXPULSION.
IT IS VERY SERIOUS.
AND THE PUBLIC CERTAINLY, I
BELIEVE, THINKS THAT FIVE TIMES
DRIVING UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF
ALCOHOL AND/OR DRUGS A VERY
SERIOUS MATTER AND SHOULD BE
DEALT WITH WITH EXPULSION.
>> THIS IS BEFORE THE
LEGISLATOR.
HE TESTIFIED THERE BEFORE THAT
PANEL, LET'S TAKE A LISTEN TO
WHAT HE SAID.
>> MY MIND, I BELIEVE, IS
CLEARER THAN IT'S EVER BEEN IN A
DECADE AND I BELIEVE THAT I CAN
REPRESENT MY CONSTITUENTS WELL.
IT'S NOT TO TAKE BACK FROM THE
DISAPPOINTMENT THAT THEY HAD ME
IN.
I CAN SET AN EXAMPLE OF HOW YOU
OVERCOM YOUR OBSTACLES THAN
DEFEAT YOU.
THE REST OF THIS SESSION, WHICH
I THINK MOST OF MY COLLEAGUES
KNOW THAT I DO PAY PRETTY CLOSE
ATTENTION TO POLICY, TAKE MY
VOTE SERIOUSLY AND I CAN
REPRESENT MY CONSTITUENTS WELL.
IF I'M REMOVED FROM OFFICE
WHETHER IT'S BY EXPULSION,
RESIGNATION AT THIS POINT OR
RECALL, MY CONSTITUENTS WOULD
LIKELY HAVE NO REPRESENTATION
UNTIL THE END OF THE TERM.
THEY HAVE SPOKEN THAT'S NOT WHAT
THEY WANT.
THAT'S NOT WHAT I BELIEVE IS
BEST FOR ANYBODY.
AND DESPITE THE DISAPPOINTMENT
AND EMBARRASSMENT THAT I MIGHT
HAVE CAUSED AND HAVE CAUSED AND
REGRETS THAT I HAVE FOR PUTTING
PEOPLE IN DANGER, I DON'T
BELIEVE THAT'S THE RIGHT
SOLUTION.
>> WHAT'S YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT?
>> WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS THE
CASE GOING FORWARD.
REPRESENTATIVE WOOD SKIPPED OUT
ON A VOTE AND WENT OFF TO HIS
OFFICE AND WANTED TO AVOID ANY
DISCUSSION AT ALL WITH THE
PRESS.
AS FAR AS NOT BEING REPRESENTED,
THAT HAPPENS.
SOMEONE COULD MOVE OUT, DIE IN
OFFICE, THERE ARE STAFF IN THAT
BUILDING THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO
DEAL WITH ISSUES.
>> WOOD'S ATTORNEY SAYS THAT A
FAILURE TO ADHERE TO ANY
STANDARD OF MORAL BEHAVIOR
UNRELATED TO HIS DUTIES AS A
LAWMAKER IS NOT GROUNDS FOR
EXPULSION?
>> THAT'S RIDICULOUS.
BY THAT STANDARD, ANY LEGISLATOR
COULD DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
WE IN THE STATE ASSEMBLY NEED TO
UPHOLD THAT STANDARD.
>> WHY SHOULDN'T WE BE A MORE
COME PASSIONATE STATE AND HELP
THIS MAN ADDRESS HIS SUBSTANCE
ABUSE AS INSTEAD OF CASTING HIM
OUT.
>> THAT HELP CAN COME AFTER HE
IS OUT.
HE'S TRIED REPEATEDLY TO GET
HELP OVER THE YEARS.
IT HAS FAILED.
WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS
SUCCESSFUL OR IF HE WILL DROP
BACK TO WHERE HE IS.
IF HE RESIGNED OR EXPELLED, HE
CAN GET THAT HELP.
HE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN THE
STATE ASSEMBLY.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GAMBLE WITH THE
FUTURE.
THANK GOD NOBODY WAS KILLED.
>> LET ME TAKE ANOTHER LISTEN TO
JEFF WOOD AS HE SPOKE BEFORE THE
PANEL.
>> AS MUCH AS I REGRET THE
DANGER I PUT PEOPLE IN ON THE
HIGHWAYS AND THE EMBARRASSMENT I
CAUSE THE CONSTITUENT, I DON'T
REGRET WHAT HAPPENED, BECAUSE I
BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT IT WAS GOING
TO TAKE TO GET ME SOBER.
IN THE LONG RUN, THAT'S MORE
IMPORTANT.
>> POTENTIALLY, HE'S CLEAN NOW
FOR GOOD.
LET ME MOVE ON TO ANOTHER THING.
REPRESENTATIVE WOOD BROUGHT UP
30 FORMER LAWMAKERS ACCUSED OF
CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS WHO WERE
NOT LIKEWISE GOING THROUGH THIS
PROCESS OF EXPULSION.
WHY SET THE PRECEDENT WITH HIM?
>> HISTORICALLY WHAT HE'S
ARGUING IS THAT NO LEGISLATOR
HAS BEEN EXPELLED FOR SOME OF
THEIR PROBLEMS INCLUDING DRUNK
DRIVING.
THERE'S A DISTINCT DIFFERENCE.
SHOULD THERE HAVE BEEN?
PERHAPS.
ALL OF THE ELONGATE --
LEGISLATORS, THERE WAS NOT THE
REPEATED RECKLESS BEHAVIOR.
>> I WENT THROUGH HIS RESOLUTION
AND ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES
NAMED IN 1994 DID HAVE THIS
REPEATED PATTERN.
AND IT'S ON THE CIRCUIT COURT
ACCESS SITE.
THERE ARE MULTIPLE.
THE SAME ACTION NOT TAKEN
AGAINST HIM.
>> WE CAN DISCUSS AT THAT POINT
THAT IS HISTORY.
WHETHER THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN
DONE AT THAT TIME, PERHAPS THAT
SHOULD HAVE BEEN.
THAT'S NOT A REASON THAT WE
SHOULD SKIP BY AND NEVER DO IT
AGAIN.
USING THAT, THE LEGISLATOR
SHOULD NEVER, EVER NOW OR 100
YEARS FROM NOW EXPEL ANYBODY.
WE NEED TO SET THE BEHAVIOR.
WE NEED TO SET THAT FOR
LEGISLATORS TO COME.
IF THERE'S A FAILURE TO HAVE
DONE THAT, THAT'S UNFORTUNATE.
>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
NOW ON TO OTHER STATE NEWS,
WISCONSIN SECRETARY OF CHILDREN
AND FAMILIES REEGE SAYS THE JIG
IS UP.
PART TWO OF OUR SERIES ON THE
WISCONSIN SHERIFF'S CHILD CARE
PROGRAM WITH A LOOK AT HOW THEY
CRACKED THE CODE AND CRACKED
DOWN ON THE CHILD CARE FRAUD
>> SOME OF THE DATA THAT WE
RECEIVED MIGHT INDICATE FRAUD.
>> THIS RETIRED POLICE OFFICER
NOW WORKS FOR THE STATE AS PART
OF THE ANTI FRAUD TASK FORCE
MAKING COLD CALL VISITS TO CHILD
CARE HOPES AND CENTERS TO CHECK
RECORDS AND NUMBERS.
>> WE DID CHECK THE DOCUMENTS
AND FOUND A FEW DISCREPANCIES
WHICH WE WILL HAVE TO EXAMINE.
>> IT'S BACK ON THE ROAD FOR
MORE INTEL.
>> THE HOTLINE ON THIS LOCATION.
THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE ARE
GOING THERE.
>> EACH CHILD IS UP TO $200 A
WEEK IN SUBSIDIES FOR THE
PROVIDERS.
CHILDREN WERE SUPPOSED TO BE
ENROLLED AT THIS HOME.
NO ONE IS HOME INSTEAD.
TO INVESTIGATORS, IT'S CALLED NO
ACCESS.
IT'S A BIG RED FLAG.
BOTH LOCATIONS WE VISITED WITH
THE INVESTIGATORS ARE SUSPENDED
AND UNDER CRITICAL INVESTIGATION
FOR SUSPICION OF FRAUD.
>> DO YOU HAVE THE RECORDS FOR
THAT?
>> ADD THESE PROVIDERS FOR THE
LIST OF 200 SUSPENDED AND
REVOCHED.
>> WE HAD ONE PROVIDER THAT HAD
AUTHOR RACE OF SO MANY CHILDREN,
210 WERE EMPLOYEES.
>> THAT PERCENTAGE IS TAGGED AS
A RED FLAG ON THE COMPUTER
PROGRAM DESIGNED TO TRACK
SUSPECTED FRAUD.
>> THE CHILD CARE EMPLOYEE
THEMSELVES BRINGS THEIR OWN
CHILDREN.
THAT EMPLOYEE IS BROUGHT ON
BOARD BECAUSE THEY HAVE FIVE
CHILDREN OR SIX CHILDREN.
THE FRAUDULENT PROVIDER WOULD
SAY, I'LL PAY YOU A FEE AS
OPPOSE TO WAGE, YOU CAN STAY
HOME WITH YOUR KIDS.
>> TAMMY'S TOTS WERE THE
CHILDREN OF EMPLOYEES THAT WERE
ENROLLED.
THE OWNER OF THIS CENTER IS PAID
MORE THAN $250,000 IN WISCONSIN
CHAIR SUBSIDIES IN THE MONTH OF
AUGUST ALONE BEFORE THE STATE
SUSPENDED HER FROM THE PROGRAM
FOR SUSPICION OF FRAUD.
ONE STATE OFFICE EXCLUSIVELY
POURS OVER THE ATTENDANCE
RECORDS, FOUR SIGNS OF RED
FLAGS.
>> THE ONE IS THE RECORDS ARE
BLATANTLY COPIED FROM ONE WEEK
TO THE NEXT WITH DATES WHITED
OUT.
DO I BELIEVE I CAN TRUST
ANYTHING ON THAT, NO.
>> IN ADDITION TO FRAUD GOING
UNDEFECTED FOR YEARS, CHILD
SAFETY COULD HAVE BEEN IN JE
JEOPARDY.
IN DECEMBER, A LEGISLATIVE AUDIT
FOUND THAT EIGHT FELONS WERE
EMPLOYED BY OR LIVING IN CHILD
CARE FACILITIES.
300 CONVICTS OF MISDEMEANOR
CRIMES LIKE DISORDERLY CONDUCT
ARE STILL BEING TRACKED DOWN.
>> THE AUDIT FOUND FOUR MATCHES
OF REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS.
TO OF THEIR WHEREABOUTS WERE
UNKNOWN.
THE DEPARTMENT OF CHILDREN AND
FAMILIES SAYS NO CHILDREN WERE
INJURED.
NEW LAWS ON THE INTOINGS AS OF
LATE 2009 TO ENSURE CHILD SAFETY
REQUIRE FREQUENT BACKGROUND
CHECKS AND CROSS CHECKS WITH THE
SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY.
IT KEEPS COMING.
JANUARY, POLICE ARRESTED THIS
PROVIDER FOR SELLING POT OUT OF
OUR DAY CARE HOME.
SHE'S CHARGED WITH TWO FELONIES
AND HER DAY CARE IS SHUT DOWN.
>> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DAY
CARE PROVIDERS WHO HAVE
CONNECTIONS TO PEOPLE IN THE
DRUG BUSINESS.
>> DAVID IS A PROSECUTOR WORKING
THE CASES IN THE DISTRICT
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
>> THIS IS CERTAINLY THE LARGEST
MISUSE OF PUBLIC FUNDS THAT WE
HAVE EVER BEEN INVOLVED IN
INVESTIGATING AND PROSECUTING.
>> ONE OF THEM THAT HE HAS
PROSECUTED SO FAR IS BAILEY.
SHE HAS THREE COUNTS OF FRAUD
AND FACES 30 YEARS IN PRISON IN
CONNECTION WITH HER ARC OF
SAFETY CHILD CARE CENTER AND THE
USE OF PAYMENTS.
BAILEY DEFRAUDED THE STATE OF
NEARLY MILLION DOLLARS BY
PROVIDING FALSE EMPLOYMENT
INFORMATION FOR MORE THAN 70
WOMEN FROM 2007 TO 2009.
>> THE WOMEN WERE BEING
RECRUITED AND THEY WERE BEING
OFFERED EMPLOYMENT.
AS A CONDITION OF THAT
EMPLOYMENT, THEY NEEDED TO
ENROLL THEIR CHILDREN IN DAY
CARE.
THE ALLEGATIONS THAT THEY WOULD
PICK UP THE WOMEN AND THE
CHILDREN, TAKE THEM TO DAY CARE,
DROP THEM OFF THERE FOR A BRIEF
PERIOD OF TIME.
45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR.
AND LOAD THEM BACK ON THE VANS
AND TAKE THEM HOME AND PICK UP
ANOTHER SET OF WOMEN AND
CHILDREN.
THERE WERE ALLEGATIONS THAT
WOMEN AND CHILDREN NEVER EVEN
GOT OFF OF THE VANS.
>> WHEN ARC OF SAFETY WAS IT
SHUT DOWN, THEY HAD PEOPLE STOP
BY HER CENTER LOOKING FOR WORK.
>> IT'S ABOUT 30 CHILDREN THAT
COME ALONG WITH ME AND MY
HUSBAND AND I GO -- I CAN'T DO
IT LIKE THAT.
>> TINA KARR SAYS SHE'S NOT IN
TROUBLE WITH THE REGULATORS AND
DEDICATED TO PROVIDING QUALITY
CARE.
SHE WAS SURPRISED HER NEIGHBOR
TO THE NORTH WAS CHARGED WITH
FRAUD AND FACES PRISON TIME
BECAUSE BAILEY IS PASTOR OF A
CHURCH.
>> SHE OWNS THREE PUBLICBLY
FUNDED ELDER CARE HOME ACROSSED
THE STREET FROM HER CLOSED DOWN
CHILD CARE CENTER.
THOSE HOPES -- HOMES ARE ALSO
UNDER INVESTIGATION BY THE
STATE.
BAILEY'S ATTORNEY SAYS SHE HAS
COMMITTED NO CRIME AND IS NOT
GUILTY.
>> SPECIFICALLY, THE ATTORNEY
SAYS BAILEY HAS NEVER RECRUITED
ANYONE TO ENROLL THEIR CHILDREN
AT ARC OF SAFETY DAY CARE.
THE LAWYER SAYS THAT FIRM ALMOST
EXCLUSIVELY SENT THE MUNG AND
SOMALI FAMILIES TO THE CENTER OF
CHILD CARE CONDITIONS IN
MILWAUKEE AND ELSEWHERE HAVE THE
STATE TAKING NOTICE.
>> CHILD CARE PROVIDERS ARE ALSO
TERRIBLE CHILD CARE PROVIDERS.
>> WE COULD PUT MILLIONS OF
DOLLARS INTO CHILDHOOD EDUCATION
THAT WE ARE THROWING INTO BAD
CHILD CARE SITUATIONS.
>> THEY WILL GET THE CHANCE TO
PUT MILLIONS IN A NEW PROGRAM TO
PROMOTE QUALITY IN WISCONSIN
SHARES.
THE JOINT FINANCE COMMITTEE WILL
VOTE WHETHER TO APPROVE THE
YOUNG STAR CHILD CARE SYSTEM
THAT HE ANNOUNCED IN JANUARY.
>> WE WILL IMPROVE THE OVERALL
QUALITY OF CHILD CARE IN IN
WISCONSIN.
>> WE HAVE TO HAVE TEACHERS WHO
HAVE A COMMITMENT TO THE
PROFESSION AND THEY HAVE TO HAVE
THE SKILLS AND KNOWLEDGE.
>> JOYCE MALL -- IS DIRECTOR IN
MILWAUKEE.
>> WE WILL LINK QUALITY TO
WISCONSIN SHARES PAYMENTS.
THIS HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST
CONTROVERSIAL PARTS OF IT.
AS I SAID, LET'S PAY THE BEST
FOR WHAT THEY ARE DOING FOR US
AND NOT PAY THE WORST THE SAME
AS WHAT THE BEST ARE RECEIVING.
>> THE FACILITY IS MODERN,
EQUIPPED AND SPOTLESS.
76 OF THE CHILDREN ARE WISCONSIN
CHAIRS AND ENROLL LEES.
THE DIRECTOR IS NOT SURE SHE
WOULD BE A FIVE STAR CENTER ON
THE STATE'S NEW QUALITY RANKING.
>> I HOPE I'M AT A FOUR IF THEY
RATED MANY ETODAY.
BY THE TIME IT'S FULLY
IMPLEMENTED, WILL BE AT A FIVE.
>> THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILIES
WILL IMPLEMENT THE RATING
SYSTEM.
MOSTLY BECAUSE OF SUSPECT
CENTERS BEING SHUT DOWN AND
PAYMENTS TO THEM SHUT OFF.
>> THE JOINT FINANCE COMMITTEE
IS EXPECTED TO VOTE LATER THIS
MONTH.
AS FOR SUSPENDED PROVIDERS, THE
SHUT-OFF OF PAYMENTS AHEAD OF
APPEAL HAS MILWAUKEE DAYCARE
OWNERS GOING PUBLIC OVER THE
PROCESS.
>> WE'RE WAITING AND WE'RE
WAITING WITH NO PAY.
THIS IS A HUGE PROBLEM BECAUSE
OUR FAMILIES SUFFER AND HALF MY
EMPLOYEES ARE HOMELESS AND
HUNGRY.
THAT SIDE OF THE STORY NEXT WEEK
ON "HERE AND NOW."
>> LAST DECEMBER, THE LEGISLATOR
HEARD FROM ANGRY DEER HUNTERS
UPSET THEY DIDN'T SEE ENOUGH
DEER DURING THE SEASON.
THEY BLAMED THE DEPARTMENT'S
RULES.
NOW IT'S MARCH AND IN THE COMING
WEEKS, HUNTERS WILL TROOP TO
LOCAL MEETINGS TO FIND OUT WHAT
THE EARLY PROJECTIONS ARE FOR
DEER HUNT 2010.
THEY WILL BE LEARNING ABOUT A
NEW STUDY THE D.N.R. IS LEARNING
TO SEE IF THERE'S A BETTER WAY
TO COUNT DEER.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> IT SEEMS EARLY TO START THIS
STUDY.
IT'S -- THE SEASON IS SIX MONTHS
AWAY.
WHY HOLD THEM IN ADVANCE?
>> WE DO THIS EACH YEAR.
THEY ARE THE HEARD STATUS
MEETINGS.
THE PURPOSE IS TO GO OUT TO
HUNTERS AND INFORM THEM ON WHAT
WE ARE AND WHAT WE ARE THINKING
AND WHAT COULD BE HAPPENING THIS
YEAR.
AND HEAR FROM HUNDRED DUB
HUNTERS TALK ABOUT PRETTY FORS
AND WINTER WEATHER AND UP COMING
SEASON STRUCTURES WHAT THEY CAN
EXPECT AND WHAT THEY WANT TO
SEE.
>> WHAT CAN THEY EXPECT?
WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
>> WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF THE
POPULATION ESTIMATES COMPLETE AT
THIS TIME.
LOOKS LIKE RIGHT NOW, WE ARE
GOING TO BE SEEING MORE UNITS
NEAR THEIR POPULATION PROJECTION
THIS YEAR THAN PREVIOUS YEARS.
THERE ARE SOME UNITS
PARTICULARLY IN FARMLAND REGIONS
THAT ARE ABOVE THEIR POPULATION
GOALS.
WE WILL WORK WITH HUNTERS THERE
TO MANAGE THOSE DEER HEARDS --
HERDS TOO.
>> YOU HEARD ABOUT THE
COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE HERD
ESTIMATES WHAT IS YOUR
CONFIDENCE LEVEL IN THE NUMBERS?
I'M CONFIDENT THAT WE ARE ABLE
TO PICK THE TRENDS.
I UNDERSTAND THEIR FRUSTRATIONS.
I'M A HUNTER AS WELL.
I'M WORKING HARD TO MAKE SURE
THE HUNTING HERITAGE IS AROUND
FOR MY DAUGHTER'S AND THEIR
CHILDREN.
WE ARE ABLE TO PROTENT THE
TRENDS THROUGH HUNTER HARVEST.
WE ARE GOING TO BE IN PLEMENTING
FIELD WORK THAT WILL HELP US
BETTER AND PRECISELY ESTIMATE
THE NUMBER OF DEAR ON THE
LAND -- DEER ON THE LANDSCAPE.
>> WHAT WILL THAT INVOLVE?
>> WE HAVE TWO MAJOR COMPONENTS
TO THIS STUDY THAT INVOLVES
MEASURING THE IMPACTS OF WEATHER
ON BUCKS AND BUCK SURVIVAL AND
MEASURING THE IMPACTS OF HUNTING
PREDATION, WEATHER, PREDATORS ON
THE SURVIVAL OF FAWNS FROM THE
TIME THEY ARE BORN UNTIL THEIR
FIRST FALL.
THOSE THINGS ARE IMPORTANT TO
OUR ESTIMATE.
>> HOW LONG WOULD THIS STUDY
TAKE AND WILL IT BE OF USE
ANYTIME SOON?
>> NO.
THE STUDY IS GOING TO START THIS
COMING WINTER.
SO WINTER 2010, 2011.
IN MOST CASES, WE HAVE THREE TO
FIVE YEARS OF FIELD WORK TO DO
BEFORE WE'RE GOING TO GET
MEANINGFUL RESULTS THAT WE CAN
APPLY TO THE ESTIMATES WHAT
WE'RE GOING TO DO IS GET HUNTERS
INVOLVED.
ONE OF THE IMPORTANT THINGS
ABOUT THE STUDIES IS THIS IS
GOING TO BE BIG ON HUNTER
INVOLVEMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO NEED HELP IN
CAPTURING DEER AND HANDLING DEER
AND WORKING WITH LANDOWNERS TO
GET PERMISSION.
THROUGHOUT THIS STUDY, WE'RE
GOING TO BE KEEPING HUNTERS AND
SCHIZOPHRENIA CITIZENS UP --
CITIZENS UP TO DAY ON THE
PROGRESS WE MADE SO FAR.
>> OUR REPORTER WILL BE DOING A
REPORT ON THIS ISSUE.
THAT WILL BE AIRING LATER THIS
MONTH.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> FINALLY TONIGHT, AN ISSUE
THAT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE THE
SATE ASSEMBLY.
IT'S THE STATE RUN HEALTHCARE
PROGRAM CALLED BAGER CARE BASIC.
IT'S FOR PEOPLE THAT ENDED UP ON
THE WAITING LIST.
THE BASIC PLAN IS FUNDING BY THE
PEOPLE ON IT THROUGH A $130
PREMIUM AND COPAYS.
THE INCOME CUT OFF FOR
BADGERCARE BASIC IS OVER 21,6
HYANNIS -- 21,$600.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
TOPIC AND WE'RE HERE TO TALK
ABOUT IT ON CAPITAL INSIGHT.
YOU KNOW THE REASON WE'RE
TALKING ABOUT THIS IS BECAUSE
THE STATE OF WISCONSIN HAS NEVER
DONE THIS BEFORE.
THEY HAVE A LOT OF INSURANCE
PLANS OUT THERE.
NOT LIKE THIS.
>> FOR ALL OF THE WAYS THAT THE
STATE IS INVOLVED IN HEALTHCARE.
THERE ARE MORE THAN A MILLION
PEOPLE THAT GET SOME FORM OF
HEALTH COVERAGE SUBSTANCE DIED
BY THE -- SUBSIDIZED BY THE
STATE.
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT
SIGN UP FOR IT IS SMALL, IT'S
SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE IT'S
SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY NEW
FOR THE STATE OF WISCONSIN.
IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S A
MICROCOSM ON THE PROBLEM IN
WASHINGTON.
>> SOME OF THE REPUBLICANS IN
WISCONSIN ARE CALLING IT OBAMA
CARE LIGHT.
>> THAT MAY BE A STRETCH.
BUT IT TOUCHES ON AN ISSUE THAT
WAS HEATED LAST YEAR.
IT IS A PUBLIC OPTION.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT
GOING TO BE IN ANY HEALTHCARE
BILLS THAT THEY PASS IN
WASHINGTON.
THIS IS A LIMITED PUBLIC OPTION
FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET OR FEEL
LIKE THEY CAN'T AFFORD HEALTH
INSURANCE IN THE PRIVATE MARKET.
>> HAS IT BEEN TRIED BEFORE IN
OTHER STATES?
>> I TALKED TO A FEW NATIONAL
EXPERTS.
THEY CALLED IT AN INNOVATIVE
PLAN.
IF IT WORKS IT MIGHT BE WEEK
AMONG THE STATES.
I HAWKED TO THE HEALTH -- TALKED
TO HEALTH EXPERT, SHE'S
CAUTIONED THAT THIS IS AN
IMPORTANT EXPERIMENT FOR STATES
AND THAT STATES WILL BE WATCHING
THIS.
OTHER STATES HAVE TRIED THIS
BEFORE.
>> AT THE END OF THE DAY, SINCE
COST IS THE GREATEST HURDLE, IT
WAS DIFFICULT TO MAKE THOSE
PROGRAMS SUCCESSFUL WITHOUT SOME
KIND OF FINANCIAL CONTRIBUTION
TO THE PREMIUM OR SOME KIND OF
SUBSIDY FROM THE STATE.
>> AND SO, SOME KIND OF SUBSIDY
FROM THE STATE IS SOMETHING THE
DOYLE ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT
THEY DON'T WANT TO DO.
THEY WANT THIS SELF-SUPPORTING
FROM THE PREMIUMS.
IF IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE IF THE
PREMIUMS AND THE COPAY DOESN'T
PAY THE BILL, THE STATE MIGHT
HAVE TO PULL BACK THE COVERAGE
AND YOU HAVE THE ISSUE THAT
PEOPLE DO NOT GET THE COVERAGE
THEY SIGNED UP FOR.
>> WE HAVE SPOKEN WITH AN
ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE SEEKING
HEALTHCARE, BOBBY PETERSON FROM
ABC FOR HEALTH.
HE SUPPORTS THIS.
THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S IN THE REALM
OF MAYBE SOMETHING IS BETTER
THAN NOTHING.
LET'S HEAR HIM.
>> IT'S MOVING IN THE RIGHT
DIRECTION.
IT'S PROVIDING OPPORTUNITIES
THAT ARE AFFORDABLE TO GET BASIC
CARE.
IT'S NOT GREAT OR GREAT
COVERAGE.
IT ALLOWS FOR HOSPITALIZATION.
IF YOU HAVE A SECOND
HOSPITALIZATION.
THERE'S A DEDUCTIBLE THAT YOU
HAVE TO MEET.
A LOT OF FOLKS ARE IN A POSITION
THAT THEY PLAY NOT GO IN AT ALL
OR THEY'RE GOING TO END UP IN
MEDICAL BANKRUPTCY FROM DEBT.
>> ONE OF THE OTHER PROBLEMS
THAT WE HAS WITH THIS.
HE DOES SUPPORT IT AGAIN, ONE OF
THE PROBLEMS HE SAYS WITH THIS,
THERE'S NO APPEAL PROCESS FOR
PEOPLE WHO ARE ENROLLED.
>> IF THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH
THEIR COVERAGE OR OTHERWISE NEED
TO CONTEST SOMETHING, THERE'S NO
WAY TO DO THAT.
AND APPARENTLY THE DOYLE
ADMINISTRATION DIDN'T WANT TO
PUT THAT INTO THIS PLAN BECAUSE
THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY FOR
IT.
IT COSTS MONEY FOR HEARING
EXAMINERS AND STATE ATTORNEYS
AND ALL OF THAT.
THAT'S NOT IN THERE AND THAT'S A
BIG ISSUE FOR THE ABC FOR HEALTH
PEOPLE.
WE KNOW THAT PAST THE ASEM --
PASSED THE SENATE WAITING TO GO
TO THE ASSEMBLY.
SUPPOSED TO BE CLOSE.
>> YEAH.
IT'S SIGNIFICANT.
THEY COULD HAVE TAKEN IT UP THIS
WEEK.
THEY DECIDED NOT TO.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF MORE WEEKS
THAT THEY COULD TAKE THIS UP ON
THE FLOOR BEFORE THEY BASICALLY
DONE FOR THE YEAR.
SO I MEAN, THIS IS AN ISSUE
THAT'S NOT AN AUTOMATIC ONE IN
THE STATE ASSEMBLY IT SEEMS LIKE
SO FAR.
THERE'S SORT OF A LIMITED AMOUNT
OF TIME FOR THEM TO ACT AND THE
STATE HAS STARTED TO SIGN UP
PEOPLE FOR THE WAITING LIST.
>> WE'LL BE WATCHING IT.
>> WE ARE OUT OF TIME.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND.
>> GRANTOR PRESENTATION OF HERE
AND NOW IS MADE POSSIBLE BY THE
ANIMAL DENTAL CENTER OF
MILWAUKEE AND OSHKOSH, A
VETERINARY SPECIALISTS WORKING
WITH PET OWNERS AND FAMILY
VETERINARIANS THROUGHOUT
WISCONSIN, PROVIDING CARE FOR
ORAL DISEASE AND DENTAL PROBLEMS
FOR SMALL COMPANION ANIMALS.
ADDITIONAL SUPPORT FOR H&N IS
PROVIDED BY THE LE PHILLIPS
FAMILY FOUNDATION.