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THE
FOLLOWING
PROGRAM IS
A%-PBS
WISCONSIN
ORIGINAL
%-PRODUCTION.
%->> AN
AVALANCHE
OF
ALMOST
6,000
%-MONTHLY
CALLS TO
THE
9-8-8
%-LIFELINE
HIGHLIGHTS
THE
NEED
FOR%-MENTAL HEALTH
SUPPORT.
%-P.F.A.S.
ARE
EVERYWHERE,
BUT
%-PREVENTION CAN
START AT
HOME.
%-AND CANDIDATES
ANNOUNCING
THEIR
%-NEXT RUN
PROVIDES
A
GLIMPSE INTO
%-THE
NEXT
ELECTION
CYCLE.
%-I'M FREDERICA
FREYBERG,
TONIGHT
%
-ON "HERE AND NOW,"
WE
SPEAK
WITH
%-D.H.S.
SECRETARY
KILLERS
!!
KIRSTEN
JOHNSON%-ABOUT THE
NEED
FOR MENTAL HEALTH
%-HELP.%-A WATER
QUALITY
MANAGER
LAYS
OUT
%-P.F.A.S.
MITIGATION IN
DRINKING
%-WATER.%-ANTHONY CHERGOSKY
EXPLAINS
A
%-SUDDEN
PUSH
FOR THIRD
PARTY
%-CANDIDATES AND A
FUTURE
WITH
%-ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE.
%-IT'S "HERE AND
NOW"
FOR
JULY
21.
%->> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND NOW"
IS
%-PROVIDED BY
THE FOCUS
FUND FOR
%-JOURNALISM AND
FRIENDS
OF PBS
%-WISCONSIN.
%->>
NEARLY
92,000
CONTACTS
%-RELATED TO MENTAL
HEALTH
AND
%-SUBSTANCE
USE
SUPPORT
CAME
%-ACROSS
THE
9-8-8
WISCONSIN%-LIFELINE IN
ITS
FIRST
FULL
YEAR
%-OF
OPERATION.
%-THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH%-SERVICES
SAYS
THE
LIFELINE
%-SYSTEM
HAS
REDUCED
PRESSURES
ON
%-OTHER
EMERGENCY
SYSTEMS
AND
%-REPORTS
THAT
98%
OF
INTERACTIONS%-WERE DEEMED
RESOLVED.
%-FOR
MORE ON
THE
STATE'S MENTAL
%-HEALTH
RESOURCES, WE
TURN
TO
%-D.H.S.
SECRETARY
DESIGNEE
%-KIRSTEN
JOHNSON.%-THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH
US.
%->> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.%->>
WERE
YOU
SURPRISED BY
THE
%-92,000
NUMBER
OF
CONTACTS IN
THE
%-FIRST
YEAR OF
THIS
9-8-8
%-SERVICE?
%->> I DON'T THINK
I
NECESSARILY
%-WAS SURPRISED.%-I THINK
IT
REALLY
DEMONSTRATES
%-THE NEED WE
HAVE
IN
WISCONSIN%-AND ACROSS THE
COUNTRY,
FRANKLY,
%-TO MEET
PEOPLE
WHERE THEY ARE
%-IMMEDIATELY IN
REAL TIME
WHEN
%-THEY
NEED
SUPPORT
AROUND MENTAL%-HEALTH.%->> SO
IF
SOMEONE
CALLS
THE
9-8-8
%-LINE
AND THEY
ARE
IN
CRISIS,%-MENTAL
HEALTH
CRISIS,
WHAT
WILL
%-THEY
GET ON
THE
OTHER
END?
%->>
SURE.
%-THEY'LL GET
SOMEONE WHO IS
%-TRAINED TO
DEESCALATE
A
SCENARIO
%-OR
SITUATION,
HOW TO
FIND
%-SUPPORT
WITHIN
THEIR
COMMUNITY,
%-TO CONNECT
THEM
WITH OTHER
%-RESOURCES, A PROVIDER
IF
THEY
%-NEEDED A
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
%-PROVIDER, AND
IF IT
TRULY IS
A
%-SCENARIO WHERE
THERE'S
A
CRISIS
%-AND AN
ACTION
HAPPENING, THEY
%-CAN BE
CONNECTED
TO
EMERGENCY
%-SERVICES.%->>
WHAT
DOES IT
MEAN TO
SAY
THAT
%-98% OF THE
CONTACTS
ARE
%-RESOLVED?%->>
SURE.
%-SO THAT'S
A
REALLY
GOOD
%-QUESTION.%-THAT MEANS
98% OF THE
CALLS THAT%-ARE ANSWERED
ARE
RESOLVED IN%-TERMS
OF
THE
PERSON
IS
%-COMFORTABLE
HANGING UP
THE
%-PHONE, THE
INDIVIDUAL WHO
IS
%-WORKING AT THE
9-8-8
CALL
CENTER
%-FEELS
COMFORTABLE
THAT THEY ARE
%-SAFE, AND
DEPENDING ON THE
%-SCENARIO,
THERE MAY BE
A
%-FOLLOW-UP
CALL
SCHEDULED
IF
THE
%-INDIVIDUAL IS
COMFORTABLE
%-SHARING THEIR
PERSONAL
%-INFORMATION, CONTACT%-INFORMATION, THERE MAY BE
A
CASE
%-MANAGER THAT'S
ASSIGNED
TO
A
%-FOLLOW-UP,
BUT THAT
MEANS
WHEN
%-THEY HANG UP THE
PHONE,
THE
%-PERSON IN THE
CALL
CENTER
FEELS%-COMFORTABLE THAT THAT
PERSON
IS
%-SAFE.
%->> AND
THESE
CALLS COULD
%-PRESUMABLY TAKE
SOME
TIME.
%-RIGHT?%-I
MEAN, HOW
LONG
DO
PEOPLE
SPEND%-ON THE
PHONE
WITH
PEOPLE
WHO
%-REALLY
NEED
THAT
HELP?%->> SO
THE
AVERAGE
CALL
IS
ABOUT
%-20
MINUTES,
BUT
THAT'S
AVERAGE.
%-SO IT'S
INTERESTING.%-I JUST
ASKED THIS
QUESTION
%-EARLIER OF
THE
9-8-8
STAFF, HOW
%-LONG --
SO
A TEXT
MESSAGE COULD
%-TAKE UP
TO TWO
HOURS.%-ON
AVERAGE,
CALLS
ARE
ABOUT 20
%-MINUTES.
%->>
HOW
DOT
!
DO
THE
%-REGARDLESSULATIONS, THE
CASES,
%-THE
CALLS THAT
ARE
RESOLVED,
%-FREE UP
OTHER
SERVICES
THAT
%-MIGHT
OTHERWISE
BE
CALLED
UPON?
%->> THAT'S
ALSO
AN
EXCELLENT
%-QUESTION.%-ABOUT
TWO-THIRDS OF
CALLERS
ARE
%-ACTUALLY REPEAT
CALLERS, SO
%-THEY'RE
PEOPLE
WHO
NOW
RECOGNIZE
%-THAT THIS IS A
RESOURCE
THAT%-THEY
CAN
ACCESS.
%-IT
HAS
ALLEVIATED SOME OF THE
%-DEMANDS ON
OUR
CRISIS
CALL
%-CENTERS
IN OUR
COUNTIES,
BUT
%-ALSO
ALLEVIATES SOME OF
THE
%-9-1-1 CALLS,
SO
PEOPLE
WHO
NEED
%-THE
IMMEDIATE TOUCH
POINT,
THEY
%-NEED
SOMEBODY
TO
TALK
TO,
%-ACTUALLY HAVE
AN
OUTLET
WHERE%-THEY HAVE
A
WARM
BODY
TO
TALK
%-THEM
THROUGH
THE
SCENARIO
%-THEY'RE IN.
%->>
OUTSIDE OF
THIS
LIFELINE,%-WHAT DOES
ACCESS
TO
%-NON-EMERGENCY MENTAL HEALTH%-SERVICE LOOK LIKE
ACROSS
THE
%-STATE RIGHT
NOW?
%->>
CERTAINLY, WE
HAVE
CHALLENGES%-IN TERMS OF ACCESS TO
CARE.%-THROUGHOUT THE
PANDEMIC, I
THINK
%-WE
HAD
CHALLENGES AROUND MENTAL%-HEALTH AND
ACCESS
TO MENTAL
%-HEALTH
SERVICES BEFORE
THE
%-PANDEMIC.%-THEY WERE CERTAINLY
EXACERBATED%-OVER THE
COURSE OF THE
LAST
%-3-1/2
YEARS,
SO THERE
ARE
LONG
%-WAIT
TIMES TO
GET
INTO
%-BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
PROVIDERS.%-THIS
IS
A
TOUCH
POINT
FOR
%-PEOPLE.
%-I'VE
ALSO
LEARNED FROM THE
STAFF
%-THAT
THE
PEOPLE
THAT
CALL
BACK%-MAY
HAVE
AN
APPOINTMENT SIX
%-MONTHS
OUT, NINE
MONTHS
OUTED,
%-BUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE
A CONTACT
%-THAT
THEY
KNOW THEY CAN
CALL
%-WEEKLY,
OR
EVERY FEW
WEEKS,
%-SOMEBODY THAT
THEY
TRUST,
THAT
%-THEY
MAY NOT
NEED
THAT
CRISIS
%-LEVEL IN
SIX
OR EIGHT
MONTHS,%-THAT THEY
MAY
TALK
ABOUT THE
%-ISSUES
THAT THEY'RE EXPERIENCING
%-IN
REAL
TIME AND HAVE
THEM
%-RESOLVED.%->>
BECAUSE I
WAS
THINKING THAT
%-IF
SOMEONE -- ONE OF THE
CALL
%-TAKERS ON
THE
LINE OFFERS
%-RESOURCES TO
PEOPLE
WHO
CALL,
%-THEY MIGHT
BE KIND OF
THIN.
%-RIGHT?
%-OR
THEY
CALL
AND
IT'S
LIKE,
%-YEAH, LIKE YOU
SAY,
SIX
MONTHS
%-OUT, THAT KIND OF
THING,
SO I
%-CAN
SEE
THAT
REPEAT KIND
OF
%-CALL-BACK.%-ARE THE
PRESSURES
OF
DAILY
LIFE%-AND THE
OVERALL
NEED
FOR
HELP
%-GREATER RIGHT NOW?
%->> YOU
KNOW, I
THINK
THAT THERE
%-WAS
CERTAINLY
AN
INCREASED
NEED
%-FOR
BEHAVIORAL
HEALTH
SERVICES%-BEFORE THE
PANDEMIC,
LIKE
I
%-MENTIONED.%-I DO THINK
THEY'VE
INCREASED
%-POST-PANDEMIC.%-WE
REALLY
WENT THROUGH THREE
%-YEARS
OF
UPHEAVAL IN TERMS
OF,%-YOU
KNOW,
INCOME
AND, YOU KNOW,
%-ACCESS
TO
CHILDCARE AND
HAVING%-TO WORK FROM
HOME
AND
CHILDREN%-AT HOME AND
KIDS AT
HOME
AND
%-REMOTE WORK
AND
REMOTE
SCHOOL I
%-THINK THERE'S
ABOUT A LOT OF%-CHANGE
IN
OUR
SOCIETY OVER THE
%-COURSE OF THE
LAST
3-1/2
YEARS,%-AND I THINK
PEOPLE
ARE
REALLY
%-STRUGGLING.%->> DO YOU FEEL
AS
THOUGH
THIS
%-9-8-8
SERVICE
AND KIND
OF
THE
%-DISCUSSION AROUND
IT AND
THE
%-PROMOTION OF
IT
HELPS
COMBAT
THE
%-STIGMA
OF MENTAL
HEALTH
ISSUES?
%->> I
THINK IT
HAS.%-I DO THINK IT
HAS.
%-AND I DO
THINK
THAT
HAS, OVER
%-THE COURSE OF THE
LAST
FIVE
%-YEARS,
PRE-PANDEMIC,
PEOPLE
ARE
%-TALKING
MORE ABOUT
THE
PERSONAL
%-CHALLENGES AND
STRUGGLES.%-I THINK
ANOTHER
OUTLET
FOR
%-PEOPLE HAS BEEN SOCIAL
MEDIA,%-WHICH HAS BEEN
BOTH
A
BLESSING%-AND A
CURSE
IN
TERMS OF
PEOPLE
%-ARE MORE
FORTHCOMING ABOUT
WHAT%-THEY'RE EXPERIENCING
IN
THEIR
%-LIVES.
%-THE FLIP SIDE
OF
THAT
IS
THERE'S
%-A
TENDENCY
TO
PORTRAY
%-PERFECTIONISM, WHICH I
THINK
IS
%-CHALLENGING FOR
KIDS
TO
TRY TO
%-FEEL
THAT
THEY'RE
NOT
GOOD
%-ENOUGH, THEY'RE
NOT -- THEY'RE
%-NOT GOOD
ENOUGH
WHEN
THEY
%-COMPARE THEMSELVES TO
OTHERS
ON%-SOCIAL
MEDIA.%-BUT
AGAIN, I DO
THINK THERE HAS
%-BEEN
AN
INCREASED
NEED OVER THE
%-COURSE
OF TIME AND I THINK THAT
%-PEOPLE
ARE MORE
WILLING
TO
REACH
%-OUT AND
ASK
FOR HELP.
%->> IN
SUM,
WHAT
MESSAGE TO
%-PEOPLE
WHO
MIGHT
NEED
HELP DO%-YOU
HAVE?
%->>
THAT THERE IS
HELP.
%-THAT THERE IS
HOPE.
%-THAT THERE
ARE
OUTLETS.%-THEY CAN CALL
9-8-8.%-THE
OTHER
VALUABLE
TOOL THAT WE%-HAVE IS
CONNECTED
TO
2-1-1,%-WHICH IS
A
ROBUST
SYSTEM
OF
%-RESOURCES,
SO
THOSE
9-8-8 --
THE
%-PEOPLE ANSWERING
THE PHONE
ARE
%-ABLE TO
GIVE
LOCAL
RESOURCES TO
%-PEOPLE WHO
CALL, AND I
THINK%-IT'S
A
TREMENDOUS
VALUE
TO
%-WISCONSINITES.%->> ALL
RIGHT.%-KIRSTEN
JOHNSON,
THANKS VERY
%-MUCH.
%->> THANK YOU FOR HAVING
ME.
%->>
TURNING TO
THE
ENVIRONMENT,%-AT LEAST
45%
OF
TAP
WATER
%-CONTAINS THE
CANCER-CAUSING
%-FOREVER CHEMICALS
KNOWN
AS
%-P.F.A.S., ACCORDING
TO A
%-RECENTLY
NATIONWIDE
STUDY FROM
%-THE U.S.
GEOLOGICAL
SURVEY,
%-VARYING GREATLY
DEPENDING ON%-WHERE YOU
LIVE.
%-AS RESEARCH
INTO
P.F.A.S.
%-EXPANDS, SO
DOES
THE
REACH
OF
%-WHERE
IT IT
IS
FOUND
IN
EVERYDAY
%-LIVES.
%-FOR MORE
ON
HOW
TO
MITIGATE%-EXPOSURE
TO
THESE
CHEMICALS IN
%-YOUR
OWN
HOME,
WE
TURN
TO
JOE
%-GRANDE,
WATER
QUALITY
MANAGER%-FOR
THE
MADISON
WATER
UTILITY.%-THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.%->> GLAD TO
BE
HERE.
%->>
SO
WISCONSIN
CLEARLY
HAS
%-P.F.A.S.
IN
ALL
CORNERS
AND
IN
%-SOME
PLACE, THERE
ARE
DEFINITE
%-P.F.A.S. HOT
SPOTS,
BUT
HOW
DOES
%-SOMEONE
KNOW
IF THEY
HAVE
%-EXPOSURE TO
P.F.A.S.
IN
THEIR
%-DRINKING WATER
AND
WHETHER IT'S
%-ENOUGH
TO WORRY
ABOUT?
%->>
SURE.
%-SO
REALLY
DEPENDS
ON WHAT
THE
%-SOURCE IS
OF
THEIR
DRINKING
%-WATER, WHETHER THEY ARE
SERVED
%-BY
A
PUBLIC
UTILITY
OR WHETHER%-THEY HAVE
A PRIVATE
WELL
AND
%-IT'S
THEIR
OWN
INDIVIDUAL
%-RESPONSIBILITY.%-SO IF
THEY'RE ON
A
PUBLIC
WATER%-SYSTEM OR A
PUBLIC
UTILITY, THEY
%-SHOULD REACH
OUT
TO
THEIR
%-UTILITY.
%-MAYBE THEY
RECEIVE
INFORMATION
%-FROM
THEIR
CONSUMER
CONFIDENCE
%-REPORT
OR
THEIR
ANNUAL
WATER
%-QUALITY REPORT AND IT
REPORTS
ON
%-THAT.%-SO THE
LARGEST
UTILITIES IN
THE
%-STATE WOULD HAVE
DONE
THEIR
%-INITIAL
TESTING
LATE IN
2022,
SO
%-THAT SHOULD
BE
REPORTED
ON
THEIR
%-CURRENT
CONSUMER
CONFIDENCE
%-REPORT.%-SOME OF THE SMALLER
UTILITIES%-ACROSS THE
STATE
ARE
CURRENTLY
%-DOING THAT
TESTING, SO
THEY
%-MIGHT NOT
HAVE
THOSE
RESULTS
%-ALREADY
REPORTED,
BUT
THAT'S ONE
%-WAY THAT THEY
CAN
FIND
OUT,
%-CHECKING
THE
WEBSITES
FOR
THEIR
%-INDIVIDUAL
UTILITY
OR
JUST%-CALLING
THE
UTILITY AND
ASKING,%-HAVE YOU
TESTED
FOR
P.F.A.S.%-IF YOU
HAVE, HAVE
YOU
FOUND
%-ANYTHING AND WHAT
HAVE
YOU
%-FOUND?
%->> AND SO
IF
PEOPLE
DO SEE
IN
%-THOSE
REPORTS
OR
THROUGH
PRIVATE
%-WELL
TESTING
THAT THEY
HAVE
HIGH
%-LEVELS
OF
P.F.A.S.,
WHAT
SHOULD
%-THEY DO ABOUT
IT?
%-HOW DO
YOU
MITIGATE
THAT IN
YOUR
%-DRINKING
WATER?
%->> THERE ARE
TREATMENT
%-ALTERNATIVES.%-I'M
NOT HERE
TO
ADVOCATE ONE WAY%-OR THE
OTHER,
BUT THERE
ARE
%-TREATMENT
ALTERNATIVES
THAT
CAN
%-REDUCE P.F.A.S.
CONCENTRATIONS
%-IN
DRINKING
WATER.
%-THOSE INCLUDE
ACTIVATED
CARBON,
%-LIKE A
CHARCOAL
FILTER,
IT MIGHT
%-BE IN A
PITCHER
FILTER
OR
%-SOMETHING THAT'S
ATTACHED TO
%-YOUR KITCHEN
SINK.
%-THERE'S ALSO
IN-LINE
EXCHANGE,%-WHICH IS
LESS
COMMONLY
USED.
%-THAT'S
MORE
FOR
LARGE
USERS
LIKE
%-UTILITIES THAT ARE
TREATING
IT
%-BEFORE IT'S
SENT
OUT
TO
%-CONSUMERS, AND
THEN
THERE'S
%-REVERSE
OSMOSIS,
AND
THAT'S
%-ANOTHER WAY THAT YOU
CAN
REMOVE.
%-SO THOSE
ARE
THE
THREE
GENERAL
%-TECHNOLOGIES THAT ARE
AVAILABLE.%->> AND
SO
APART
FROM KIND
OF
THE
%-PICTURES THAT YOU
USE BY FILLING
%-IT
WITH
TAP
WATER IN
YOUR
%-KITCHEN,
PITCHERS, CAN
PEOPLE
%-ININSTALL
THOSE
OTHER KINDS OF
%-FILTERS THAT
FILTER
THE
WATER
AT
%-ITS
SOURCE?
%->>
THEY COULD BE
ATTACHED UNDER
%-THE KITCHEN
SINK, FOR
EXAMPLE.
%-YOU MIGHT HAVE
A
SEPARATE
FAUCET
%-THAT'S DELIVERING
THAT
FILTERED
%-WATER,
AND
THAT MIGHT
BE,
LIKE I
%-SAID, IT MIGHT
BE
CARBON-BASED%-SYSTEM
OR
IT MIGHT
BE
A
REVERSE
%-OSMOSIS
SYSTEM,
AND
SO
THOSE
%-SYSTEMS
ARE
AVAILABLE.
%->> CAN
YOU
DO
THOSE
SYSTEMS
%-YOURSELF, OR DO YOU HAVE TO
HAVE
%-A
PLUMBER?
%->> DEPENDS
ON
HOW HANDY YOU
ARE.
%-SOME
PEOPLE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
DO
%-THAT ON
YOUR
OWN,
BUT
IN MOST
%-CASES, IT'S
PROBABLY
A
PLUMBER
%-THAT NEEDS TO
COME IN
AND
DO
%-THAT.%->>
WE
GOT
AN
EMAIL FROM A
VIEWER
%-WHO
TALKED ABOUT THE
DISPOSAL OF
%-USED
FILTERS
FOR
P.F.A.S.
AND
%-THAT THEY
ARE
THEN
CONTAMINATED.
%-RIGHT?
%-AND
HOW
SHOULD
THOSE
BE
DISPOSED
%-OF, THOSE
FILTERS?
%->>
THERE
REALLY
ISN'T
AN
%-INFRASTRUCTURE SET UP
FOR
%-HANDLING
THOSE.%-QUITE
FRANKLY,
THE
%-CONCENTRATIONS OR THE
AMOUNT
OF
%-P.F.A.S. THAT MIGHT BE
ON
THOSE
%-FILTERS
IS
REALLY
SMALL
%-QUANTITIES, AND SO
THERE
REALLY
%-ISN'T
ANY
REGULATION IN TERMS
OF
%-SPECIAL
IS DISPOSAL
%-RECOMMENDATIONS FOR
THAT.
%-TYPICALLY, YOU JUST
PUT
IT IN
%-THE
TRASH AND
IT ENDS
UP IN THE
%-LANDFILL.%-THE
PROBLEM
WITH
P.F.A.S. IS
%-THAT THEY ARE
THESE -- EXCUSE
%-ME,
FOREVER CHEMICALS, AND
SO
%-THEY
DON'T BREAK
DOWN.
%-WE'RE IS NOT
DESTROYING THEM
%-WITH
OUR
TREATMENT
PROCESSES.
%-ALL WE'RE
DOING
IS
CONCENTRATING
%-THEM
AND
MOVING
THEM SOMEWHERE%-ELSE,
AND WE HAVE TO
FIND
SOME
%-WAY,
TECHNOLOGY HAS
TO
ADVANCE
%-TO
BREAK
THESE DOWN
AND
TO
BREAK
%-THAT
CYCLE.
%->>
SO
P.F.A.S.
IN
GROUNDWATER
%-AND
DRINKING
WATER
SEEMS TO GET%-KIND
OF
THE
BULK OF THE
%-ATTENTION,
BUT WE'RE
EXPOSED
TO
%-THESE
CHEMICALS
IN A LOT
OF
%-OTHER WAYS
IN
OUR
DAILY
LIVES.%-HOW MUCH
SHOULD
WE
FOCUS
ON
%-WATER
VERSUS THE
OTHER
AREAS
OF
%-EXPOSURE?%->>
YEAH.%-I
THINK
WE
SHOULD FOCUS
ON ALL
%-OF
THEM.
%-FOOD
IN
PARTICULAR,
IN
SOME
%-LOCAL
BODIES OF
WATER, THERE
ARE
%-FISH ADVISORIES,
SO
THAT'S
ONE
%-PIECE.
%-THERE'S THE
DRINKING
WATER,
BUT
%-THERE'S
ALSO
CONSUMER
GOODS.
%-WE'RE
SURROUNDED
BY
P.F.A.S.
%-IT'S
IN
UP
UPHOLSTERY, IT'S
IN
%-OUR
CLOTHING,
IT'S
IN
OUR
%-CARPETING.%-IT'S
IN A LOT OF
PAPER
%-PACKAGING.%-SO IN ORDER
TO
MITIGATE
OR
%-REDUCE OR
EXPOSURES,
WE
NEED TO%-BE
LOOKING
FOR
P.F.A.S.-FREE
%-ALTERNATIVES, AND SOME OF
THOSE
%-DO
EXIST AND
THERE'S
A
GROWING
%-LIST OF
COMPANIES THAT
ARE
NOW
%-MAKING
P.F.A.S.-FREE
%-ALTERNATIVES, BUT IF
YOU
SEE
THE
%-WORDS
"STAIN
RESISTANT,
STAIN
%-REPELLANT,
GREASE
REASSISTANT,
%-WATER REPEL
MILITANT, ALL
OF
%-THESE
TYPICALLY
MEAN
THAT%-THERE'S
P.F.A.S.
IN
THEM."
%-LIKE YOUR
ANTI-STICK
COOK
WARE,
%-THOSE KIND OF
THINGS.%-IN
THE
PAST
CERTAINLY HAVE
HAD
%-P.F.A.S.
AND THERE ARE
NOW
%-ALTERNATIVES THAT ARE TRYING
TO
%-REMOVE
THOSE FROM
THE
CONSUMER%-SUPPLY CHAIN.
%->>
THAT'S
GOOD,
BECAUSE
IT'S
%-EVERYWHERE.%-JOE
GRANDE,
THANKS VERY
MUCH.
%->> THANK YOU.
%->>
IN
POLITICAL
NEWS, THE
IDEA
%-OF
LAUNCHING
THIRD-PARTY
%-CANDIDATES IN
THE
2024
%-PRESIDENTIAL RACE IS
GAINING
%-STEAM.%-IN
ADDITION
TO
CORNELL
WEST
%-PLANNING ON A
GREEN
PARTY
%-TICKET,
THE
CENTRIST
GROUP, NO
%-LABELS, WHICH IS
LOOKING FOR
A%-IS CALLED
UNITY
CANDIDATE,
IS
%-EYEING
SPECIALS
LIKE WEST
%-VIRGINIA
SENATOR
JOE
MANCHIN.%-WHERE DOES
THIS
PUT
THE
MAJOR
%-PARTY
CANDIDATES, DONALD
TRUMP
%-AND JOE BIDEN
AND
HOW
WOULD
%-WISCONSIN
SWING WITH
A THIRD
%-PARTY
ENTRANT?
%-FOR THIS
AND
MORE
WE
TURN
TO
%-LACROSSE
POLITICAL SCIENCE
%-PROFESSOR, ANTHONY
CHERGOSKY.%-THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.%->> THANK
YOU,
FREDERICA.%->>
GIVEN
THE
MAJOR PARTY
%-CANDIDATES, IS
THIS
UPCOMING
%-ELECTION
RIPE
FOR
THIRD-PARTY
%-CANDIDATES?
%->> YOU KNOW,
I
THOUGHT THAT
WAS
%-TRUE OF
THE
2016
PRESIDENTIAL
%-ELECTION.%-I
LOOKED
BACK AT
THE
POPULAR%-VOTE
FROM THAT
YEAR AND
FOUND
%-THAT NEARLY
95% OF
THE
POPULAR
%-VOTE WENT
TO
EITHER HILLARY
%-CLINTON
OR DONALD
TRUMP.
%-SO
COUNT
ME AS
A
THIRD-PARTY
%-SKEPTIC.
%-THERE TENDS TO BE A LOT
OF
TALK
%-ABOUT
THIRD-PARTY
ENTRANTS
%-POTENTIALLY COMING INTO
THE
%-PRESIDENTIAL
RACE, AND
IT ENDS
%-UP
BEING A LOT
OF HYPE
AND
NOT A%-LOT OF
VOTES
FOR
THAT
%-THIRD-PARTY
CANDIDATE.
%-I'M
INTERESTED TO SEE
HOW THE
%-CAMPAIGN
UNFOLDS,
OBVIOUSLY,
%-BEFORE MAKING
A
FINAL
JUDGMENT,%-BUT
THE
AMERICAN POLITICAL
%-SYSTEM
MAKES
IT
EXTRAORDINARILY
%-DIFFICULT FOR
A
THIRD-PARTY
%-TICKET TO
SUCCEED.%-I EXPECT
THAT WILL
BE
TRUE
THIS
%-TIME
AROUND.%-OF COURSE WE'LL
HAVE
TO
WAIT AND
%-SEE EXACTLY
HOW
THE
CAMPAIGN
%-UNFOLDS.%->> LET'S
SAY
WE
DO HAVE
A
%-THIRD-PARTY
ENTRANT.%-WHO HE IS
VOTES WOULD
IT
CUT
%-INTO
MORE?
%-BIDEN'S
OR
TRUMP'S?
%->> I'M
SEEING
INCONSISTENT
DATA
%-ON WHETHER
THE
THIRD-PARTY
%-CANDIDATE WOULD BE
A IS
CALLED%-SAMIRA
!!
SPOILER
FOR
EITHER
SIDE,
AND%-THAT
IS WHAT
THE
PARTIES ARE
%-FOCUSED
ON,
IF
THE THIRD PARTY
%-IS
GOING
TO
TAKE AWAY
VOTES.
%-WE
DON'T THINK
OF
THEM
AS
HAVING
%-A
SERIOUS
CHANCE OF
WINNING.
%-WE
THINK
ABOUT
THEM
PLAYING
THAT%-SPOILER
ROLE
WHERE THEY COULD
%-THROW
THE
ELECTION ONE WAY OR%-THE
OTHER.%-TO THE
POINT ABOUT
WISCONSIN,
%-THE
THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE
BE%-COULD BE
HIGHLY
RELEVANT IN
%-WISCONSIN, EVEN
IF
THE
%-THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE WIDELY
NOT
%-WIN THE
STATE BECAUSE
OUR
%-ELECTIONS HERE ARE SO
CLOSE.%-IN
WISCONSIN,
A
THIRD-PARTY
%-CANDIDATE COULD
MAKE A BIG
%-DIFFERENCE, EVEN IF
THEY
ONLY
%-TAKE A
SMALL
PERCENTAGE OF THE
%-VOTE.
%->>
LOOKING
BACK
IN
PRESIDENTIAL
%-ELECTORAL
HISTORY,
WHAT'S
AN
%-EXAMPLE OF
A
THIRD-PARTY
%-CANDIDATE THAT
DID, IN
EFFECT,
%-SPOIL CANDIDATES'
CHANCES OF
%-TAKING THE
SEAT?%-I
MEAN, RALPH
NADER
COMES
TO
%-MIND, ROSS PEROT.
%->> RALPH NADER
COMES
TO
MIND
%-BECAUSE HE
RAN AS
A
LEFT
WING
%-CANDIDATE.
%-THUS, HE
WOULD TAKE AWAY
VOTES
%-FROM
AL
GORE, THE
DEMOCRAT.
%-THERE, IT WAS
QUITE CLEAR
WHO
%-THE
THIRD-PARTY
CANDIDATE
WAS
%-TAKING AWAY VOTES
FROM,
AND IN
%-THE
CASE
OF RALPH
NADER,
%-FREDERICA, THE BIG
DEAL
THERE
%-WAS
FLORIDA,
WHERE
FLORIDA
WAS
%-DECIDED BY
SUCH
A
SMALL
MARGIN,
%-THAT
NADER
GOT
ENOUGH OF
THE
%-PERCENTAGE
TO
POTENTIALLY SWING
%-THE
ELECTION IN
FAVOR
OF GEORGE%-W.
BUSH, AND
THAT'S WHAT WE
%-WOULD BE
LOOKING FOR
IF
A
%-THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE MAKES
THE
%-BALLOT IN
WISCONSIN
IN
2024.
%->> RIGHT
SO
THE
TREPIDATION ON
%-THE
PART OF
THE
MAJOR
PARTY
%-CANDIDATES IN
WISCONSIN IS
REAL
%-AROUND
A
THIRD-PARTY
POTENTIAL.
%->> IT
IS,
BECAUSE
ONLY
A
SMALL%-NUMBER
OF
STATES
ACTUALLY
MATTER%-IN
THE
ELECTORAL
COLLEGE, AND SO
%-THE
BIG
QUESTION
IS,
IF
A
%-THIRD-PARTY CANDIDATE WOULD
BE%-ON THE BALLOT
IN
THAT
SMALL%-NUMBER OF
PIVOTAL
STATES
AND
%-WHICH SIDE
THAT
THIRD-PARTY
%-CANDIDATE MAY
TAKE
VOTES
FROM.
%->> SO
A IN
THE
THIRD
%-CONGRESSIONAL
DISTRICT, WHERE%-YOU
ARE,
DEMOCRATS ARE KIND
OF
%-LINING UP
TO
RUN
AGAINST
%-INCUMBENT DERRICK VAN
ORDEN
%-THERE.%-REBECCA COOKE WHO
LOST
TO BRAD
%-PFAFF
IS
OFFICIALLY
IN.
%-SO THEY
MUST
THINK THAT THE
%-FIRST-TERM REPUBLICAN IS
%-BEATABLE?%->> I THINK
SO,
FREDERICA.%-A LOT
IS GOING TO
DPOAND ON
!
DEPEND%-ON
THE
NATIONAL
POLITICAL
%-CONTEXT IN
2024.
%-WE ZONE
KNOW
IF
2024
IS
GOING TO
%-BE
A
REPUBLICAN
FRIENDLY
YEAR
OR
%-A DEMOCRATIC
PARTY
FRIENDLY
%-YEAR.
%-THAT REMAINS TO BE
SEEN
AND
%-THAT'S GOING TO
HAVE
A
HUGE
%-EFFECTS ON THE
OUTCOME IN THIS
%-DISTRICT,
BUT
IN
ANTICIPATION OF
%-POTENTIALLY
A
FAVORABLE
%-POLITICAL
CLIMATE, A LOT OF
%-DEMOCRATS ARE
LOOKING
AT
RUNNING
%-AGAINST
FIRST-TERM
REPUBLICAN
%-CONGRESSMAN DERRICK VAN
ORDEN,
%-VIEWING
HIM
AS
POTENTIALLY
%-VULNERABLE BECAUSE
HE
WON
HIS
%-PREVIOUS ELECTION
BY LESS
THAN
4
%-PERCENTAGE POINTS.
%->> HE
HAS
MODERATED, IT
SEEMS
TO
%-ME,
IN
POLITICAL
MESSAGING
SINCE
%-THAT
TIME.
%->> I
WOULD
AGREE
WITH
THAT,
%-FREDERICA.%-HE
HAS
FOCUSED A
LOT
ON
LIKE
%-RAILROAD
SAFETY,
HE'S
FOCUSED
ON%-MENTAL
HEALTH,
TRYING TO
FIND
%-THAT
COMMON
GROUND
WITH
%-DEMOCRATS,
TRYING TO
HAVE
SOME
%-BIPARTISAN
POSITIONS.
%-CONGRESSMAN VAN ORDEN
ALSO
TAKES
%-SOME POSITIONS THAT
ARE VERY%-MUCH IN
LINE WITH
HIS
POLITICAL
%-PARTY WHEN YOU LOOK
AT
HIS
%-POSITION ON
IMMIGRATION OR
HIS
%-POSITION ON
GUNS.
%-SO I
WOULD
DESCRIBE
CONGRESSMAN
%-VAN
ORDEN AS
TRYING
TO
GENERATE
%-SOME
PUBLICITY
AND
GENERATE
SOME
%-MOMENTUM
BEHIND
BIPARTISAN
%-EFFORTS WHILE
ALSO
STICKING WITH
%-HIS PARTY
ON
OTHER
ISSUES.
%->>
SO BRAD
PFAFF
SAYS
HE'S
%-CONSIDERING RUNNING AGAIN
BUT
%-AWAITS NEW
DISTRICT
MAPS.
%-HOW WOULD
THAT
HELP
HIM
OR
OTHER
%-DEMOCRATS?%->> THERE
IS A
VERY
REAL
%-POSSIBILITY THAT
THE
WISCONSIN
%-STATE SUPREME COURT
COULD
ENTER
%-THE
PICTURE
AND
REDRAW
THE
%-CONGRESSIONAL
MAPS.
%-MOST LINCOLN
RILEY, THAT
!
!!!! LINCOLN!!
LIKELY, THAT WOULD
RESULT%-IN
THE
DISTRICT
BECOMING MORE
%-FAVORABLE TO
THE DEMOCRATIC
%-PARTY.%-THERE ARE
SEVERAL
WAYS THAT
THE
%-DISTRICT MAPS COULD
BE
REDRAWN,
%-BUT A LOT
OF
DEMOCRATS
ARE VERY
%-MUCH AWARE OF
THE
POSSIBILITY%-THAT THIS DISTRICT COULD
BE
%-REDRAWN TO
MAKE
IT
MORE
%-FAVORABLE TERRAIN
FOR
THEIR
%-PARTY.
%->> ALL
RIGHT.
%-PROFESSOR ANTHONY CHERGOSKY OUT
%-OF
UW
LACROSSE, THANKS VERY MUCH
%-FOR YOUR
EXPERTISE.
%->> THANK YOU.
%->>
THE
EXPLOSION
OF
MAINSTREAM
%-USE
OF
ARTIFICIAL
INTELLIGENCE
%-TOOLS HAS
LED TO
THE
VERY
%-DEVELOPERS OF THIS
TECHNOLOGY
%-WARNING
OF
ITS
DANGERS,
%-INCLUDING
EXTINCTION,
BUT
THEIR
%-EXTENSIVE EVERYDAY
USE
IS HERE%-TO
STAY.
%-WE
TURN
TO LOIS
BROOKS,
CHIEF
%-INFORMATION OFFICER
AND
VICE
%-PROVOST FOR
INFORMATION
%-TECHNOLOGY AT
UW
MADISON,
AND%-THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US.
%->> THANK YOU
FOR
INVITING ME.
%->>
SO
IT'S
NOT
ONLY
A.I.,
BUT
%-GENERATIVE
A.I.,
WHICH
CAN
%-GENERATE TEXT
OR
IMAGES THAT
HAS
%-REALLY
EXPLODED INTO THE
%-MAINSTREAM.
%-WHAT IS
IT ABOUT THE
MASS
USE OF
%-THIS
GENERATIVE
A.I. THAT'S
BEEN%-A
GAME-CHANGER?%->>
SO
A.I. HAS
BEEN
PRESENT
FOR
%-QUITE A LONG
TIME,
AND
YOU'VE
%-PROBABLY INTERACTING
WITH
IT
%-THROUGH THINGS LIKE
CHAT
BOX
OR
%-FINDINGS THE
BEST
TRAVEL
FARES.%-WHAT HAPPENED WITH
GENERATIVE
%-A.I.
IS
TOOLS
LIKE
CHAT
GPT
MADE
%-IT ACCESSIBLE
TO
ANYONE
TO
BEGIN
%-TO GENERATE
CONTENT,
SO YOU CAN
%-GO
GENERATE A
REPORT OR
THE
%-DRAFT OF AN
EMAIL
OR
AN
IMAGE
OR
%-VIDEO
YOURSELF, AND
SO
WE'VE
%-SEEN THIS
EXPLOSION IN
%-CREATIVITY
WITH
PEOPLE
CREATING
%-SONGS AND
POETRY
AND
MOVIES AND
%-ALL SORTS OF THINGS WITH
A.I.,
%-BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE
%-QUALITY
OF SOME OF IT IS
SO
GOOD
%-THAT
IT'S
HARD
TO
TELL
WHETHER%-IT
WAS
GENERATED
BY
MACHINE OR
%-NOT,
SO WE
HAVE
SIMULTANEOUSLY
%-AN EXPLOSION
OF
NEW
CONTENT AND
%-A CONCERN THAT
YOU
MAY NOT
KNOW
%-IF
WHAT
YOU'RE
LOOKING
AT
WAS
%-CREATED BY
AN
A.I.
ENGINE
OR
THE
%-HUMAN
WHO IT'S
ATTRIBUTED
TO.
%->>
WHY IS THAT
DANGEROUS,
IF AT
%-ALL?%->> IF
YOU'RE
LOOKING, FOR
%-EXAMPLE, AT A
VIDEO
OF
SAYING
%-SOMETHING ON SOCIAL MEDIA,
YOU%-DON'T KNOW
IF
THAT
PERSON%-ACTUALLY SAID THAT
OR
IF
SOMEONE%-USED
A.I.
TO
GENERATE
IT.
%-SIMILARLY, IF YOU'RE
READING
A
%-REPORT, AN
ANALYSIS OF
%-SOMETHING,
YOU
DON'T
KNOW
%-WHETHER THAT WAS WRITTEN
BY AN
%-EXPERT
WHO COULD BE
CREDIBLE
OR%-AN
ENGINE
THAT MAY BE
PUTTING
%-OUT FALSE
INFORMATION.
%-AND
AGAIN, BECAUSE
THE
QUALITY
%-IS GOOD
ENOUGH,
SOMETIMES
IT'S%-QUITE
HARD
TO TELL.
%->>
IF
THE
ACCURACY
GETTING%-BETTER
AND
BETTER?
%->> IT'S
HARD
TO
SAY.%-THERE IS
MORE
AND
MORE
DATA
%-BEING
AMASSED
WITHIN
THE
ENGINES%-THAT CAN BE
USED
TO
CREATE
MORE
%-OUTPUT, BUT THE
ACCURACY
WOULD%-COME
FROM TWO
THINGS,
ONE, FROM
%-THE
DATA
ITSELF
BEING
ACCURATE%-THAT WENT INTO
IT
AND
THEN FROM
%-THE
ALGORITHMS USED
TO
CREATE
%-GIVING
YOU ACCURATE
INFORMATION,
%-SO I COULDN'T
SAY
IF
IT'S
%-BECOMING MORE
ACCURATE,
BUT I
%-WILL SAY
THE
QUESTIONS
ABOUT
ITS
%-ACCURACY
ARE
BECOMING
MORE
%-PRESENT AND
SHARPER.
%->> WHICH IS IMPORTANT AS
WELL.%-SO
SPEAKING OF
DATA,
THE
%-UNIVERSITY RECENTLY PUT
OUT
A
%-STATEMENT
RESTRICTING THE
USE
OF
%-INSTITUTIONAL DATA THAT
IS
NOT
%-CONSIDERED
PUBLIC
FROM
BEING
%-ENTERED
INTO
ANY
GENERATIVE
A.I.
%-TOOL.%-WHY THAT
RESTRICTION?
%->>
WELL,
WE
ALREADY HAVE
%-RESTRICTIONS IN
PLACE.%-WE
HAVE A LOT
OF
DATA
THAT'S
%-LEGALLY
PROTECTED,
LIKE
STUDENT
%-DATA
OR
MEDICAL
INFORMATION.
%-WE
DO
USE
SOFTWARE
APPLICATIONS%-TO
MANAGE THAT
DATA,
BUT
WE
VERY
%-CAREFULLY CHECK
IT
FOR%-CYBERSECURITY
AND
ENTER
INTO
%-CONTRACTS TO
HELP WITH
%-CORRECTION.%-THESE
A.I.
TOOLS
HAVEN'T
BEEN
%-SCRUTINIZED.%-THE WAY
THEY
WORK MAY
OR
MAY
NOT
%-BE APPROPRIATE FOR
CERTAIN KINDS
%-OF DATA
AND WE'RE
NOT IN
A
%-CONTRACTUALLY PROTECTED
%-ENVIRONMENT.
%-SO THERE
WAS
NOTHING --
A.I.
%-ITSELF ISN'T
BAD
AND
THERE'S
%-NOTHING NEW ABOUT
THIS.%-IT WAS REALLY
A
REMINDER
TO
OUR
%-COMMUNITY OF THE
STANDARDS WE
%-ALREADY HAVE
IN PLACE
FOR
%-WORKING WITH
SENSITIVE
DATA.
%->>
SO
MACHINE
LEARNING HAS BEEN
%-AROUND FOR
A
WHILE
AND
IN
%-ACADEMIC
USE.
%-WHAT'S AN
EXAMPLE
OF
IT,
ITS
USE%-AT THE
UNIVERSITY?
%->>
WELL, WE'VE
BEEN DOING
A.I.
%-RESEARCH FOR MORE THAN
A
DECADE%-AT
THE
UNIVERSITY AND OUR
%-RESEARCHERS ARE
CONTRIBUTING TO
%-THE
DEVELOPMENT, TO
THE
POWER%-AND THE POSSIBILITY OF
A.I.
TO
%-RESEARCH INTO ETHICS
AND
BIAS.
%-WE'RE
ALSO
USING
IT IN
RESEARCH.
%-SO JUST
A
FEW
EXAMPLES,
IF
%-YOU'RE
WORKING WITH
A
CHEMICAL
%-THERAPY,
PERHAPS
MEDICINE, AND%-YOU
NEED TO
UNDERSTAND THE
%-CHEMICAL AND
PHYSICAL
%-INTERACTIONS, YOU CAN TRAIN
A.I.
%-ALGORITHMS TO DO
THAT WORK FOR
%-YOU,
BUT IT
CAN DO
IT ON
A
MASS
%-SCALE THAT YOU
COULDN'T ACHIEVE
%-BEFORE.%-ANOTHER EXAMPLE, ONE
OF
OUR
%-RESEARCHERS
IS
WORKING
WITH
%-AGRICULTURAL ANIMALS
AND
%-TRACKING
DATA ON
THE
ANIMALS
%-AROUND
THEIR
WELL-BEING, THEIR
%-NUTRITION AND
SO
ON,
BUT
AGAIN,%-THE
DIFFERENCE IS
HE
CAN
DO
THIS
%-WORK ON
A MASSIVE
SCALE
THAT
HE
%-WASN'T ABLE
TO
ACCOMPLISH IN THE
%-PAST, AND
SO WE'RE
SEEING
IT
%-COME
IN
TRANSPORTATION,
%-SPACE,
SCIENCE,
MEDICINE
AND
IN
%-MANY
AREAS.
%->> AS
TO
STUDENTS'
USE OF
A.I.,
%-GENERATIVE
A.I.
TO COMPLETE
%-ASSIGNMENTS, EVEN MAJOR
ONES
%-LIKE TERM
PAPERS, WHAT IS
THE
%-UNIVERSITY'S POSITION ON
THIS?
%->> WELL, THERE
ARE
TWO WAYS
TO
%-TAKE
THAT
QUESTION.
%-ARE
THEY
USING
A.I. IN A
WAY
%-THAT'S BEEN
ASSIGNED
OR
THAT'S
%-NOT
BEEN
ASSIGNED?
%-SO WE TEACH
A.I.,
WE
TEACH
IT
IN
%-COMPUTER
SCIENCE,
WE
TEACH
IT
IN
%-COMPUTERS THAT
USE
A.I.,
SO
%-HELPING OUR
STUDENTS LEARN
HOW
%-TO
USE
IT
APPROPRIATELY.%-THERE IS
ALSO
AN
ACTIVE
%-CONSIDERATION AROUND THE
USE
OF
%-S.I.
TO
GENERATE
A
PAPER THAT%-THE STUDENT
WAS
EXPECTED TO
%-WRITE.
%-THERE'S
AN
ACTIVE
CONVERSATION%-IN A COUPLE OF
WAYS.
%-FIRST,
THE
STANDARDS HAVEN'T
%-CHANGED.%-CHEATING HAS
ALWAYS
BEEN
%-DISALLOWED.%-THIS
IS
JUST
A NEW
WAY
TO
%-POTENTIALLY DO IT.
%-BUT
WE'RE
ALSO
HAVING
ACTIVE
%-CONVERSATION
WITH
OUR
PROFESSORS
%-AROUND ARE
THERE
WAYS
TO
ASSESS
%-PERFORMERS
THAT
STEP
AROUND
%-THIS, ACTIVE
LEARNING,
%-PROJECT-BASED
LEARNING, THAT
%-WOULD NOT
INTRODUCE
THE
%-POSSIBILITIES OF A
MACHINE
%-GENERATED RESPONSE.%->> ARE
WE
MOVING TOO
FAST
FOR
%-THESE
TOOLS
WITHOUT
ADEQUATE
%-SAFEGUARDS IN
PLACE?
%->>
THERE'S
AN
INTERESTING
%-QUESTION
NOW
AROUND
REGULATORY
%-COMPLIANCE AND
A.I.
AND
A
%-STATEMENT FROM
THE WHITE
HOUSE
%-AROUND THE
USE
OF
WATER
MARKING%-IN
IMAGES.%-I THINK
IT'S
MOVING VERY,
VERY
%-QUICKLY, DISMT
CONCERN I
HAVE
IS
%-WHETHER
THE
CONVERSATION AROUND
%-REGULATORY COMPLIANCE IS
%-STRICTLY
BETWEEN
THE
GOVERNMENT,
%-THE
CONGRESS
AND
LEGISLATURE,
%-AND
BIG
TECH
COMPANIES.%-AND I THINK TO
DO
THIS
%-CORRECTLY, THERE NEEDS TO
BE
A
%-WAY
FOR
EXPERTS,
FOR
EMPHASIS,%-FOR
CITIZENS
TO
WEIGH
INTO
%-CONVERSATION AS
WELL.
%-SO WE
ARE
MOVING
QUICKLY.
%-WILL
WE
MOVE
SO
QUICKLY THAT
WE
%-AS
CITIZENS
CAN'T
WEIGH
IN ON
%-THE
CONVERSATION IS A
CONCERN
%-FOR
ME.%->>
INTERESTING.%-LOIS
BROOKS,
THANKS VERY
MUCH.
%->> THANK YOU.
%->>
FOR
MORE ON
THIS AND
OTHER
%-ISSUES
FACING
WISCONSIN,
VISIT
%-OR
WEBSITE
AT PBS
WISCONSIN
%-DOT-ORG AND
THEN
CLICK ON
THE
%-NEWS
TAB.
%-THAT'S
OUR
PROGRAM
FOR
TONIGHT,
%-I'M FREDERICA FREYBERG.%-HAVE A
GOOD
WEEKEND.
%-(CLOSED
CAPTIONING
PROVIDED
BY
%-RIVERSIDE
CAPTIONING
COMPANY)
%->> FUNDING FOR "HERE AND
NOW"
IS
%-PROVIDED BY
THE FOCUS
FUND
FOR
%-JOURNALISM AND
FRIENDS
OF PBS
%-WISCONSIN.