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>>> THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM IS A
PBS WISCONSIN ORIGINAL
PRODUCTION.
>>> TORRENTIAL STORMS LEAVE
THOUSANDS WITHOUT POWER.
THE E.P.A. RECOMMENDS TOUGHER
STANDARDS FOR FOREVER CHEMICALS
IN WATER.
AND A BIPARTISAN FRAMEWORK COULD
MEAN NEW LEGISLATION ON GUN
CONTROL.
>>> GOOD EVENING.
I'M ZACH SCHULTZ.
TONIGHT ON HERE AND NOW, AN E.R.
TALK TALKS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH
AND.
STRANGE TO THE ENERGY GRID COULD
GENERATE EMERGENCIES.
AND ONGOING FORMULA SHORTAGES
LEAVE SOME TO THE MILK BANK.
IT'S HERE AND NOW FOR JUNE
17th.
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>>> NO MORE SILENCE END GUN
VIOLENCE!
>> SPURRED BY RECENT EVENTS AND
CALLS FOR ACTION, A BIPARTISAN
GROUP OF SENATORS EARLIER THIS
WEEK RELEASED DETAILS ON A GUN
VIOLENCE BILL THAT COULD
OVERCOME A REPUBLICAN FILIBUSTER
AND BECOME LAW.
ONE CENTERPIECE OF THE
COMPROMISE PACKAGE IS A RED FLAG
PROVISION THAT WOULD PROVIDE
SUPPORT FOR STATES TO PASS THEIR
OWN BILLS, CREATING A PROCESS TO
TEMPORARILY REMOVE GUNS FROM
PEOPLE WHO ARE DECLARED TO BE A
THREAT TO THEMSELVES OR OTHERS.
JOINING US NOW TO TALK ABOUT A
POTENTIAL RED FLAG LAW IS
DR. BRAD BURMEISTER, AN
EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTOR IN
GREEN BAY.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NOW, WISCONSIN DOES NOT HAVE
A RED FLAG LAW.
BUT AS AN E.R. DOCTOR, YOU CAN
AND DO INQUIRE ABOUT GUNS IN THE
HOUSEHOLD IF YOU BELIEVE SOMEONE
IS HAVING MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.
HOW DOES THAT WORK?
>> YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT
QUESTION.
SO WE HAVE A DIVERSE NUMBER OF
PATIENTS WHO PRESENT TO THE
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT.
AND WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME
PATIENTS WHO MIGHT BE STRUGGLING
WITH A PSYCHIATRIC EMERGENCY WHO
PROBABLY -- IT IS NOT SAFE FOR
THEM TO HAVE A GUN IN THEIR
HOME.
NOW, IN WISCONSIN PHYSICIANS DO
NOT HAVE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE
GUNS FROM A HOUSE, SO WE'RE
STUCK USING IT AS A RISK
STRATIFICATION TOOL TO HELP
UNDERSTAND WHAT PATIENTS HAVE A
SEF SETTING TO RETURN HO AND WHO
NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED IN THE
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT OR
PSYCHIATRIC SETTING TO HELP
ENSURE THEIR SAFETY --
>> EMERGENCY DETENTION IS A
PROCESS IN WHICH THE LEGAL
SYSTEM GETS INVOLVEMENT.
A RED FLAW LAW.
IS THE OPPOSITE.
IT WOULD DETAIN THE GUNS.
DOES ONE OF THEM MAKE MORE SENSE
TO YOU?
>> THERE ARE LIKELY DIFFERENT
APPLICATIONS FOR BOTH SCENARIO.
CERTAINLY WE KNOW THAT IF
SOMEONE WERE ABLE TO RETURN HOME
WHO MAY BE LOWER RISK FOR
HARMING THEMSELVES OR OTHERS, IF
WE CAN ENSURE THERE'S NO
FIREARMS IN THEIR HOME, WE MAY
BE ABLE TO HELP PRESERVE THE
PSYCHIATRIC SERVICES CENTER FOR
PATIENTS WHO MIGHT BE AT HIGHER
RISK OR MAY NEED MORE INTENSIVE
TREATMENT.
YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY HAVING THE
ABILITY TO HAVE THE RED FLAG LAW
IS SOMETHING THAT OUR MEDICAL
SOCIETY -- YOU KNOW, WE
REPRESENT OVER 10,000 MEMBERS IN
WISCONSIN THROUGH MY -- THROUGH
DIVERSE BACKGROUND, BUT WE HAVE
CONSENSUS ON THIS MATTER THAT
PHYSICIANS THINK THIS IS
SOMETHING WE SHOULD HAVE THE
ABILITY TO DO IN WISCONSIN.
>> FOR EMERGENCY DETENSION, IT
OFTEN INVOLVES ASKING THE
PATIENT.
HOW MUCH SENSE DOES IT MAKE
TO -- TO ASK THE PATIENT THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, THAT IS A FANTASTIC
QUESTION.
AND SOMETHING THAT DIFFERENT
REGIONS IN WISCONSIN REALLY
STRUGGLE WITH.
IN WISCONSIN, WHETHER OR NOT
SOMEONE IS ABLE TO BE DETAINED,
REALLY IS UP TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.
IT'S NOT A DECISION THAT'S MADE
BY A PHYSICIAN IN THE EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENT OR A COMMONLY
PSYCHIATRIST, SOMETHING THAT LAW
ENFORCEMENT NEEDS TO DECIDE.
YOU KNOW, HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS
AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WORK HAND IN
HAND VERY OFTEN.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT CAN BE
CHALLENGING AND TAKES SOME MED
EXPERTISE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND
WHAT SORT OF CAPACITY SOMEBODY
HAS TO APPROPRIATELY RELAY THE
INFORMATION OF WHAT THEIR
THOUGHT PROCESS IS.
THERE'S SOME PATIENTS THAT MAY
NOT BE TRUTHFUL IF THEY'RE
SAYING THEY'RE SUICIDAL OR
HOMICIDAL.
SO I THINK THAT IS WHAT'S THE
HAPPENING PART, IS HOW NUANCED
IT IS TO MAKE THAT DECISION, WHO
IS SAFE TO BE MEMBERS IN OUR
COMMUNITY BOTH TO THEMSELVES AND
ALSO THE PEOPLE AROUND THEM.
>> NOW, WHENEVER WE HAVE A MASS
SHOOTING LIKE THE RECENT
EXAMPLES IN BUFFALO OR UVALDE,
TEXAS, DEMOCRATS AT THE NATIONAL
LEVEL TALK ABOUT GUN CONTROL,
REPUBLICANS USUALLY TALK ABOUT
MENTAL HEALTH.
IN IN YOUR PROFESSION, HOW OFTEN
DID YOU REAL -- ARE YOU DEALING
WITH PATIENTS WHO HAVE MENTAL
HEALTH PROBLEMS AND SHOULD WEB
INFLATING THOSE TWO?
>> YOU KNOW, IN THE EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENT WE SEE PEOPLE WHO ARE
STRUGGLING WITH EITHER SUBSTANCE
USE OR MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES.
YOU KNOW O A DAILY BASIS.
IT MAKES UP A RELATIVELY HIGH
VOLUME COMPARATIVELY OF PATIENTS
WHO PRESENT TO THE EMERGENCY
DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE TWO
ISSUES, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S
RIGHTS TO PO SAYS A FIREARM
AND -- POSSESS A FIREARM AND
MENTAL HEALTH COMMONLY RUN SIDE
BY SIDE WITH EACH ANOTHER.
BUT I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY
OPPORTUNITIES ON BOTH ENDS OF
THAT SPECTRUM TO IMPROVE OUR
REGULATION IN THIS COUNTRY BY
IMPROVING ACCESS TO MENTAL
HEALTH CARE AND SUBSTANCE USE
TREATMENTS, AS WELL AS ALSO
IMPROVING WHO EXACTLY WE ALLOW
TO POSSESS A FIREARM AND TO WHAT
CAPACITY WE ALLOW THAT.
YOU KNOW, A RECENT STUDY
INTERESTINGLY SHOWED THAT STATES
THAT EXPANDED MEDICAID ACTUALLY
HAD IMPROVED RATES OF SUICIDE
PRESUMABLY DUE TO INCREASED
ACCESS TO MENTAL HEALTH
SERVICES.
>> SO ARE YOU HOPEFUL THAT THE
NATIONAL DEBATE WILL ACTUALLY
LEAD TO SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP
YOU IN YOUR JOB OR PREVENT MASS
SHOOTINGS?
>> YEAH.
WE ARE VERY OPTIMISTIC AT THIS
POINT THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN
YEARS OR POSSIBLY DECADES, THERE
ARE GOOD EARNEST CONVERSATIONS
ABOUT MEASURES WE CAN TAKE AS A
NATION TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO
FIREARMS.
YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, AS
PHYSICIANS, WE BELIEVE THAT WE
DO HAVE THE CONSTITUTION AND WE
NEED TO WORK WITHIN THE
CONSTRAINTS OF THAT DOCUMENT HAS
PROVIDED TO THE AMERICAN
CITIZENS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE KNOW
THAT THERE'S WHAT WE THINK ARE
COMMON SENSE APPROACHES TO LIMIT
ACCESS TO PEOPLE WHO IT'S VERY
LIKELY IS JUST NOT SAFE TO HAVE
ACCESS TO THAT -- TO THAT
WEAPON.
>> THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
>> THANK YOU.
>>> A DANE COUNTY JUDGE IS
REFERRING FORMER SUPREME COURT
JUSTICE MICHAEL GABLEMAN TO THE
OFFICE OF LAWYER REGULAR LACE
FOR, QUOTE, UNPROFESSIONAL
BEHAVIOR AND INAPPROPRIATE
COMMENTS HE MADE AT A HEARING
LAST WEEK.
LAST FRIDAY WE TOLD YOU JUDGE
REMINGTON WAS HOLDING GABLEMAN'S
OFFENSE OF SPECIAL COUNCIL IN
CONTEMPT FOR VIOLATING THE OPEN
RECORDS LAW.
THIS WEEK THE JUDGE ISSUED HIS
WRITTEN ORDER, FINING THE OFFICE
THE MAXIMUM $2,000 A DAY FOR
CONTEMPT BUT ALSO WROTE ABOUT
YOU ON GABLE -- HOW GABLEMAN'S
ACCESS IN COURT DISCREDITED THE
LEGAL PROFESSION.
FRIDAY HE TOOK THE STAND AND HE
PROCEEDED TO QUESTION THE
JUDGE'S INTEGRITY.
GABLEMAN KEPT CRITICIZING THE
JUDGE.
>> YOU KNOW, THIS IS HIS TIME TO
TIME, YOU KNOW.
THIS IS HIS -- WHAT PASSES FOR
SUCCESS FOR HIM.
>> GABLEMAN WENT ON TO CRITICIZE
THE OPPOSING COUNSEL.
REMINGTON'S ORDER INCLUDED A
PROFESSIONAL REBUKE OF GABLEMAN,
SAYING IN THE END IT WAS READILY
APPARENT THAT GABLEMAN INTENDED
TO USE HIS APPEARANCE TO
DISTRACT FROM SPECIAL COUNSEL'S
FAILURE TO FOLLOW THE COURT'S
ORDER AND PERHAPS DISTRACT
ATTENTION AWAY.
THE COURT WILL IGNORE THE
PERSONAL INSULT.
HOWEVER, I CANNOT IGNORE THE
COMMENTS ABOUT A FELLOW LAWYER.
>>> EARLIER THIS WEEK, A
LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE ALLOWED
NEW REGULATIONS FOR P FAST
CONTAMINATION TO GO INTO EFFECT.
A DAY LATER THE E.P.A. RELEASED
NEW FEDERAL RECOMMENDATIONS ON
PFAS THAT SHOW WISCONSIN'S NEW
STANDARD IS NOT NEARLY STRONG
ENOUGH TO PROTECT HUMAN HEALTH.
JOINING US IS -- THANKS FOR YOUR
TIME.
>> GOOD EVENING.
>> WISCONSIN'S NEW STANDARD ON
PFAS IS 70 PARTS PER TRILLION
FOR DRINKING WATER.
BUT THE NEW STANDARD FOR ONE OF
THESE SO-CALLED FOREVER
CHEMICALS IS OWN 004 PARTS
PER TRILLION.
JUST HOW BIG OF A DIFFERENCE IS
THAT?
>> THAT'S QUITE A BIG
DIFFERENCE.
SO LET ME BUT PARTS HER TRILLION
IN PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU.
-- PER TRILLION IN PERSPECTIVE
FOR YOU.
A DROP OR TWO OF WATER IN AN
OLYMPIC SIZED POOL.
THAT'S A PART PER TRILLION.
SO WHAT THIS IS SAYING IS THIS
CHEMICAL IS -- TOXIN IS ACTUALLY
A CHEMICAL, IS VERY DANGEROUS
AND VERY, VERY LOW LEVEL -- AT
VERY, VERY LOW LEVELS.
>> MANUFACTURERS AND CHEMICAL
COMPANIES ARE OPPOSED TO THESE
STANDARDS AT ANY LEVEL.
SAYING IT WILL COST TOO MUCH TO
COMPLY OR IT MAY NOT BE POSSIBLE
TO REACH THE STANDARDS.
ARE THESE REALISTIC CONCERNS?
>> YES, BER, BUT THE ARENA THE
E.P.A. -- REASON THE E.P.A. CAME
OUT WITH THIS ADVISORY, THIS HAS
NO LEGAL IMPLICATIONS.
IT'S AN ADVISORY.
LIKE THE 70 PARTS PER TRILLION
WAS AN OLD ADVISORY FROM 2016
THAT WISCONSIN WAS PROPERLY
FOLLOWING.
SO WISCONSIN IS DOING EVERYTHING
THEY COULD DO.
WHAT BASED ON NEW SCIENCE, THEY
HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT
THE 70 WAS FAR TOO HIGH.
AND THEY NEED TO SET LOWER
LEVELS.
BUT YES, THE CHALLENGE IS GOING
TO BE HOW DO WE REACH THESE
LEVELS.
AND THAT'S YET TO BE DETERMINED.
>> NOW, YOUR SPECIALTY IS IN
PEDIATRICS.
WHAT DOES EXPOSURE TO THESE
CONTAMINANTS DO TO CHILDREN?
>> OKAY.
SPECIFICALLY, OVER TIME, WE'VE
LEARNED THAT THE IMPACT OF THESE
CHEMICALS ARE THAT IT CAN
INTERFERE WITH THE BODY'S
NATURAL HORMONES, WHICH ACT IN
VERY SMALL LEVELS, TOO.
IT CAN INCREASE CHOLESTEROL
LEVELS.
IT CAN INCREASE THE RISK OF
CERTAIN CANCERS.
AND IN CHILDREN SOME RECENT
STUDIES SHOW IT'S AFFECTING THE
IMMUNE SYSTEM, TO THE POINT
WHERE CHILDREN MAY NOT BE
RESPONDING PROPERLY TO SOME
VACCINES AND AS FAR AS CHILDREN,
IT CAN HAVE EFFECT ON
DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITIES IN
PREGNANCY -- DISABILITIES.
IN PREGNANCY, WOMEN WHO ARE
EXPOSED CAN HAVE HIGHER BLOOD
PRESSURE AND HAVE LOWER BIRTH
WEIGHT CHILDREN.
>> NOW, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF
COMMUNITIES AKRON WISCONSIN THAT
HAVE FOUND LEVELS OF PFAS IN
THEIR DRINKING WATER.
ARE THEY DOING ENOUGH?
WHAT SHOULD PEOPLE DO IF THEY
KNOW THAT IT'S IN FAURES -- IN
THEIR FAUCET?
>> MARINOT HAS HAD A PROBLEM
THERE AND THE DNR HAS STEPPED UP
AND HELD THE FEET OF THE
POLLUTERS TO PROVIDE WATER FOR
THE PEOPLE IN FRENCH ISLAND, WE
ALSO HAVE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE
EXPOSED.
BUT WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS
TEST MORE.
WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE THE
PROBLEM IS AND HOW TO ACT OUT.
BUT THE FIRST THING IS TEST ALL
ACROSS THE STATE.
THE CITY HAS TESTED THEIR MUN
PAL WELLS AND I -- MUNICIPAL
WELLS AND I SUSPECT THEY'RE
GOING TO BE TESTING ACROSS THE
COUNTRY BEFORE WE ACT.
>> A LAWSUIT AGAINST DANE COUNTY
AGAINST THE WISCONSIN DNR
BECAUSE OF THESE NEW STANDARDS
AND DANE COUNTY IS KNOWN AS ONE
OF THE MORE PROGRESSIVE COUNTIES
F. THEY'RE SUING, WHAT DOES THAT
SAY FOR THE REST OF THE STATE
MEETING THE NEW STANDARDS?
>> YOU HIT ON A VERY DIFFICULT
SITUATION.
WING THAT MANY OF THE
COMPANIES -- WE KNOW THAT MANY
OF THE COMPANIES WHO HAVE MADE
THESE CHEMICALS OVER THE YEARS
HAVE MADE QUITE A BIT OF MONEY
FROM THE US 0 OF THESE CHEMICAL.
SO I THINK IT SHOULDN'T BE ON
THE ONUS OF THE MUNICIPALITIES
OR THE TAXPAYERS.
IT SHOULD BE ON THE OWNERS OF
THE MANUFACTURERS.
IF YOU MESS IT UP, CLEAN IT UP.
>> THERE'S NEW TYPES OF
CHEMICALS THAT ARE PART OF THIS
PFAS FAMILY AND THEY HAVE THEIR
OWN RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE
QUITE A BIT HIGHER THAN THE NEW
FEDERAL LEVEL.
THE FEDERAL SUGGESTIONS.
WHAT DO BENG ABOUT THEM AND
WHAT -- WE KNOW ABOUT THAT THEM
AND WHAT SHOULD WE MONITOR
THERE?
>> WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT SOME OF
THE SUBSTITUTE CHEMICALS ARE
THEY DO HAVE PROPERTIES THAT ARE
VERY SIMILAR TO THE ONES THAT
THEY ARE REPLACING.
AND THAT'S SHOWING UP IN SOME OF
THE STUDIES, TOO.
BUT WHAT PEOPLE LISTENING ARE
GOING TO SAY, WHAT CAN I DO AS
AN INDIVIDUAL.
WHAT DID YOU -- CAN YOU DO AS AN
INDIVIDUAL IS TO ASK YOUR
MUNICIPALITY TO TEST FOR IT AND
THEN WHAT CAN YOU PERSONALLY DO?
USE WATER FILTERS.
WE KNOW FILTERS WORK
TEMPORARILY.
BUT YES, WE ARE LOOKING AT A
SITUATION THAT'S GOING TO
REQUIRE MANY MINDS TO COME IN
AND HELP US FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE
CLEAN THIS UP.
IT'S SOMETHING ELSE.
WE'RE INVOLVED IN CLEANUP.
THAT'S TWO PRONGS.
THE OTHER PART IS WE NEED TO
STOP THE FLOW OF THESE CHEMICALS
INTO THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO WE NEED TO STOP WHAT I CALL
NONESSENTIAL USES OF THESE
CHEMICALS.
SO DO WE NEED TO HAVE A FRY PAN
THAT'S NONSTICK?
NOT NECESSARILY.
SO THERE ARE SOME NONESSENTIAL
USES OF THESE CHEMICALS THAT WE
COULD ELIMINATE FROM SOCIETY.
>> THANKS FOR YOUR TIME TODAY,
DOCTOR.
>> YOU'RE WELCOME.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>>> EXTREME WEATHER BLEW THROUGH
WISCONSIN THIS WEEK.
HEAT INDEXES HIT TRIPLE DIGITS,
CREATING HEAT ADVISORIES TO
RESIDENTS IN SOUTHEAST
WISCONSIN.
AND MILWAUKEE IS INVESTIGATING
TWO HEAT-RELATED DEATHS.
SEVERE STORMS ALSO WREAKED
HAVOC, LEAVING NEARLY 100,000
WITHOUT POWER.
SOME FOR DAYS.
A SPRING REPORT FROM AN ENERGY
WATCHDOG GROUP WARNED THE MIT
GRID IS AT HIGH RISK OF ENERGY
EMERGENCIES AND POSSIBLE
BLACKOUTS.
MARISSA SAT DOWN WITH PROFESSOR
DISDEMARK TO -- CHRIS DeMARCO
TO LEARN MORE.
>> THE GRID IS WARNING ABOUT
THE -- THESE HEADLINES ABOUT
POTENTIAL BLACKOUTS, IS THAT
CREATING AN ALARM --
>> THEIR REPORT IN THIS MAY OF
2022 FLAGGED PARTICULARLY THE
NORTH CENTRAL REGION OF THE
U.S., THE NORTHERN MIDWEST, AS
BEING SHORT ON SUFFICIENT
CAPACITY MARGIN.
SO WE ALWAYS LIKE TO BUILD IN
SOME MARGIN FOR SOME UNFORESEEN
EVENTS.
EQUIPMENT OUTAGES, UNEXPECTED
LATE WARM WEATHER, SOME PEAK
LEVEL THAT WASN'T FORESEEN AND
THOSE MARGINS ARE SLIMMER NOW
THAN THE RELIABILITY
ORGANIZATIONS WOULD LIKE THEM TO
BE.
I WOULD SAY THE -- NERK RAISED
THAT ALARM I THINK IN PART JUST
FOR ACTION.
AND THE ACTUAL OPERATOR OF THE
GRID THROUGHOUT MUCH OF THE
MIDDLE PART OF THE COUNTRY IS
THE MID CONTINENT INDEPENDENT
SYSTEM OPERATOR.
THEY ACTUALLY HAD SIGNS OF SOME
OF THESE SHORTFALLS EARLIER IN
THE SPRING.
AND THEY'VE CERTAINLY BEEN
TRYING TO TAKE STEPS, I THINK
THE WARNING CERTAINLY
LEGITIMATE, CERTAINLY BASED ON
REAL DATA.
BUT IN PART, BEING CONSERVATIVE
TO SPUR ACTION TO TRY AND AVOID
SIGNIFICANT OUTAGES.
>> IS THAT WHY EXPERTS DISAGREE
ON THE SEVERITY, BECAUSE THE
REPORT IS SAYING THAT IT'S A
SOBERING SITUATION.
BUT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING, WE
REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE THAT
CONCERNED?
>> YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAINLY A
MIX OF MOWVATIONS AMONG THE
DIFFERENT PLAYERS -- MOTIVATIONS
AMONG THE DIFFERENT PLAYERS IN
THE GRID.
BUT I THINK THE CHALLENGE IS YOU
REALLY ARE TRYING TO PREDICT
THINGS THAT ARE INHERITLY RANDOM
CHANCE.
WE KNOW THAT INEVITABLY SOME
EQUIPMENT WILL FAIL, INEVITABLY
WE'LL GET SOME CONDITIONS WE
DIDN'T ANTICIPATE.
AND HISTORICALLY, WHEN SEVERE
BLACKOUTS HAVE HAPPENED, THEY'RE
AN ACCUMULATION OF THESE
RELATIVELY RARE EVENTS COMING
TOGETHER.
SO IT'S A JUDGMENT CALL AND IN
HOW YOU WEIGHT THOSE DIFFERENT
PROBABILITIES.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE
ORGANIZATIONS IN CHARGE TAKE A
CONSERVATIVE APPROACH AND YOU
KNOW, RID REGRID RELIABILITY
REMAINS AN IMPORTANT NEED AND I
THINK A BACKDROP TO ALL OF THIS
THAT FRANKLY THUS FAR HAS NOT
PROVEN TO BE AS SIGNIFICANT A
CONCERN EARLIER IN THE YEAR, BUT
ARE THERE RISKS OF CYBER ATTACKS
ON THE GRID SIMULTANEOUS WITH
THESE SHALL WE SAY NATURAL
EVENTS THAT MIGHT BE STRANGING
IT.
>> ARE CYBER ATTACKS LEGITIMATE
LARGE CONCERN?
>> I THINK THEY REMAIN A
LEGITIMATE CONCERN.
THE EVIDENCE TO THE -- AND IT'S
AVAILABLE PUBLICLY, SEEMS TO BE
THERE HAVE NOT BEEN THE SCALE OF
SIGNIFICANT ATTACKS THAT WORLD
EVENTS MIGHT HAVE CAUSED US TO
FEAR EARLIER IN THE YEAR.
BUT YOU KNOW, THAT'S A SITUATION
THAT EVOLVES DAY BY DAY.
>> DOES WISCONSIN HAVE
ADDITIONAL CAPACITY, IS THAT
SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PRODUCED
AND STORED?
OR ARE WE IMPORTING ENERGY FROM
OUTSIDE OF THIS STATE?
>> SO AS A STATE, WE ARE
TYPICALLY A NET IMPOTTER AND --
IMPOTTER AND -- IMPORTER AND
SEVERAL OF THESE REGIONS THAT BY
OPERATE SWITCH, DON'T COINCIDE
WITH STATE LINES.
WE'RE PART OF TWO OF THE 10
REGIONS THAT MISSO DIVIDES UP AS
OPERATIONAL AREAS FOR THESE
CAPACITY ASSESSMENTS.
THEY ARE NET IMPORTERS.
THE GENERAL VIEWPOINT IS THAT'S
NOT A BAD THING, PROVIDED THAT'S
IMPORT CAPACITY THAT YOU CAN
ABSOLUTELY COUNT UPON.
>> HOW MUCH DO THE SOMEWHAT
CONTESTED HIGH CAPACITY
TRANSMISSION LINES -- HOW DO
THOSE PLAY INTO THE ENTIRE
ENERGY LANDSCAPE IN WISCONSIN?
>> YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, SEVERE
WEATHER EVENTS CAN OFTEN HAVE AN
IMPACT OVER A BIG GEOGRAPHIC
FOOTPRINT.
BUT IF YOU CAN REACH FURTHER FOR
YOUR SOURCES OF ENERGY, YOU
KNOW, YOU MAY MOVE OUTSIDE OF A
PARTICULAR POCKET OF VERY HOT
WEATHER OR STORM CONDITIONS.
SO IT IS ATTRACTIVE TO BE ABLE
TO MOVE ENERGY EFFECTIVELY OVER
LONG DISTANCES.
BUT IT COMES AT THAT
ENVIRONMENTAL COST OF BUILDING
TRANSMISSION LINES.
YOU KNOW, LIKE -- MY PERSONAL
ORIENTATION AS AN ELECTRICAL
ENGINEER, I PROBABLY LIKE
TRANSMISSION LINES MORE THAN THE
AVERAGE PERSON, BUT I
RECOGNIZES, YOU KNOW, MANY FOLKS
FIND THEM AN ASORE AND WOULD
PREFER NOT -- AN EYESORE AND
WOULD PREFER THEM NOT CLOSE TO
THEIR PROPERTY.
THAT REPRESENTS A SOCIETAL
TRADE-OFF WE HAVE TO GRAP WELL
IN POLICY.
>> -- GRAPPLE WITH IN POLICY.
>> DOES THE INCREASE IN BATTERY
TECHNOLOGY MAKE IT EASIER TO
STORE AND POLY HAVE -- TOE LENDL
HAVE ENERGY AT HAND WHEN
EMERGENCIES HAPPEN?
>> PART OF THE CHALLENGE IN THE
POWER GRID, I THINK THE LAY
PERSON SORT OF RUFFLE
UNDERSTANDS, BUT -- ROUGHLY
UNDERSTANDS, BUT IT REALLY IS A
SYSTEM IN WHICH SUPPLY HAS TO
MATCH DEMAND MOMENT BY MOMENT.
AND THAT PUTS REAL STRESSES ON
THE GRID.
EVEN A LITTLE BIT OF RELIEVE IN
TIME, HAPPEN -- RELIEF IN TIME,
SEVERAL HOURS, CAN BE VERY
VALUABLE.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE
INCREASINGLY, PARTICULARLY WITH
SOLAR RESOURCES, YOU KNOW -- NOT
HARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT THEY
PRODUCE THEIR MAXIMUM OUTPUT
MIDDAY.
BUT SINCE WE HUMANS TEND TO FEEL
THE ACCUMULATED EFFECT OF HEAT,
WE OFTEN TEND TO PUMP UP OUR AIR
CONDITIONERS MOST AT THE END OF
THE AFTERNOON.
SO YOU DON'T GET AN EXACT
COINCIDENCE IN TIME OF WHEN
YOU'RE GETTING THE BEST
PRODUCTION FROM THE SUN VERSUS
WHEN THE SUN IS ROUGHLY SPEAKING
DRIVING THE BIGGEST COMPONENT OF
CONSUMPTION, AIR-CONDITIONING.
AND IF YOU CAN MOVE THAT A
LITTLE BIT, A FEW HOURS IN TIME,
YOU CAN DO A GREAT DEAL TO
RELIEF STRESS ON THE GRID.
AND AS YOU KNOW -- RELIEVE
STRESS ON THE GRID.
AND IN SOME CASES MAY LESSEN THE
NEED FOR LONGER DISTANCE
TRANSMISSION.
>> PROFESSOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH
FOR THIS CONVERSATION.
>> REAL PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU
TODAY.
THANK YOU.
>>> THE NATIONAL BABY FORMULA
SHORTAGE HAS BROUGHT A LOT OF
ATTENTION TO WHAT OTHER OPTIONS
REMAIN WHEN THERE'S NO FORMULA
ON THE SHELF.
ONE OF THE GROUPS BENEFITING ARE
MILK BANKS.
AND JOINING US NOW IS SUSAN,
PROGRAMMING IN OF MOTHERS' MILK
BANK OF THE WESTERN GREAT LAKES,
WHICH SERVES WISCONSIN AND
ILLINOIS.
THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> SO DOES A MILK BANK WORK IN A
SIMILAR FASHION TO A BLOOD BANK?
>> YES.
WE'RE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
SO AS A MILK BANK, WE COLLECT
DONOR MILK FROM MOMS WHO HAVE
PLENTY TO SPARE.
AND WE BRING IT HERE TO OUR
FACILITY IN ELK GROVE VILLAGE.
WE TEST IT.
WE PASTURE YIEWZ IT AND --
PASTEURIZE IT.
AND MOST OF IT GOES TO BABIES IN
THE HOSPITALS OR IN MOTHER BABY
UNIT.
ABOUT WHEN WE HAVE ENOUGH MILK
AND WE DO NOW, WE'RE ALSO ABLE
TO PROVIDE MILK FOR PATIENTS AT
HOME.
>> SO WHO ARE YOU SERVING AT
HOME?
OUTSIDE OF THE HOSPITAL IN THESE
CIRCUMSTANCES, JUST ANYONE WHO'S
AWARE AND CAN COME AND GRAB IT
OR TOUGH A CRITERIA FOR WHO GETS
FIRST DIBS AT THIS?
>> WE HAVE A PRIORITYIZATION --
PRIORITIZATION CRITERIA.
MEDICALLY COMPLEX BABIES HAVE
THE MILK FIRST.
WE HAVE A SYSTEM FROM THERE SO
THAT HOPEFULLY ALL BABIES HAVE
ACCESSES.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE ABLE TO
PROVIDE MILK FOR PATIENTS AT
HOME INCLUDING HEALTHY BABIES.
SO THAT'S FANTASTIC.
BUT PRIMARILY, WHEN WE'RE
WORKING WITHOUT PATIENTS, WE
NEED TO FOCUS ON THE BABIES WITH
THE COMPLEX MEDICAL NEEDS, SUCH
AS BABIES WHO NEED A SPECIALTY
FORMULA THAT THEY CAPITAL
CURRENTLY FIND.
>> IN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS,
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ATTENTION
SO WHY SOME EQUIPMENT AREN'T
ABLE TO BRES -- WOMEN AREN'T
ABLE TO BREAST-FEED THEIR
BABIES.
HOW --
>> THERE'S PLENTY OF REASONS WHY
MOMS MY NOTICE BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE THEIR OWN MILK.
VERY OFTEN IT'S A LACK OF
SUPPORT.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO IS TRY
TO SUPPORT MOMS TO MEET THEIR
OWN GOALS.
AND THAT INCLUDES CONNECTING
THEM WITH LOCAL LACTATION
RESOURCES.
BUT FOR SO MANY REASONS,
SOMETIMES THAT'S JUST NOT AN
OPTION.
THERE'S MOMS WHO ARE TAKING
MEDICATIONS THAT ARE CONTRA
INDICATED.
THERE'S FAMILIES THAT HAVE NO
MOTHER THAT IS INVOLVED.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO SITUATIONS
SUCH AS ADOPTION AND SURROGACY
OR MATERNAL CANCER.
THERE'S MANY, MANY REASONS WHY
HUMAN MILK MAY NOTICE BE
AVAILABLE.
SO WE LIKE TO COME IN AND HELP
IN THOSE SITUATIONS.
>> I'VE SEEN YOU DESCRIBE
THERE'S BOTH HAPPY AND SAD
REASONS FOR WHY SOME WOMEN OR
WILLING TO DONATE MILK.
CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THOSE?
>> YES.
SO SOME OF THE HAPPY REASONS
THAT MOMS ARE ABLE IS BECAUSE
THEY JUST HAVE PLENTY.
THEY HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF MILK
AND THEY WANT TO SHARE WITH
OTHER FAMILIES IN NEED.
BUT SITTING RIGHT HIND ME, THESE
BEAUTIFUL STARS ARE HANDPAINTED
WITH THE NAMES AND DATES OF
BIRTH OF BABIES WHO ARE HONORED
ON OUR POPPY ICE DREAM BER
RECEIPT MILK DONATION MEMORIAL
WALL.
SO THESE ARE ALL FAMILIES WHO
HAVE CHOSEN TO DONATE MILK IN
HONOR OF A BABY WHO HAS DIED.
SO EACH ONE OF THOSE STARS IS
VERY SPECIAL TO US AND I KNOW A
LOT OF THOSE FAMILIES
PERSONALLY.
AND THOSE MOMS ARE ABSOLUTE
HEROES FOR BEING ABLE TO OFFER
THEY'RE MILK IN A TIME WHEN
THEY'RE HURTING.
SO WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL
OF OUR DONORS, WHETHER IT'S
HAPPY CIRCUMSTANCES OR SAD.
WE'RE JUST GRATEFUL FOR
EVERYBODY.
>> YOU'VE SEEN -- YOU HAVE A
SURPLUS RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT DUE TO AN INCREASE IN
BOTH SUPPLY AND DEMAND DISMRP
ARE YOU SEEING MORE PEOPLE COME
IN AND BE AWARE OF THIS?
>> I WOULDN'T NECESSARILY CALL
IT A SURPLUS JUST YET.
BUT THANKFULLY, YES.
WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN
DEMAND AND SUPPLY.
SO WHAT WE HAVE MORE PATIENTS
THAT ARE CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR
MILK.
WE HAVE MORE DONOR MOTHERS WHO
ARE COMING FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO
PROVIDE THAT MILK TO FAMILIES IN
NEED.
>> IN TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE NEED
TO DO TO DONATE, WHAT IS THAT
PROCESS LOOK LIKE?
>> THAT'S GREAT QUESTION.
WE LIKE TO TO MAKE THE DONOR
APPLICATION PROCESS AS SIMPLE AS
POSSIBLE.
EVERYTHING IS DIGITAL.
GO TO OUR WEBSITE,
MILKBANK WGL.ORG AND FILL OUT
OUR OWNER INTEREST FORM.
WE'LL GIVE A DONOR MOM THE QUAL.
WE'LL SEND A WRITTEN APPLICATION
THAT CAN BE COMPLETED ONLINE.
WE REACH OUT TO THE MEDICAL
PROVIDER FOR CLEARANCE AND WE
SEND THE MOM TO A BLOOD DRAW.
ONCE ALL OF THAT'S DONE, WE HAVE
A NURSE REVIEW THE APPLICATION.
AND THEN WE CAN APPROVE THAT MOM
AS A DONOR.
WE KEEP IN TOUCH WITH OUR DONORS
THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THEIR
DONATION SO WE KNOW EVERYTHING
IS STAY -- STAYING SAFE FOR AS
LONG AS THEY'RE DONATING MILK.
>> HOW HOPEFUL ARE YOU THAT THIS
INTENTION WILL INCREASE FOR THE
LONG-TERM HERE?
>> I'M ACTUALLY REALLY EXCITED
BECAUSE UNTIL NOW, EVERYBODY
KNEW WHAT A BLOOD BANK WAS.
YOU MENTIONED THEM EARLIER.
BUT NOBODY HAD EVER HEARD OF A
MILK BANK AND THAT WAS ONE OF
OUR BIGGEST HURDLES, IS GENERAL
AWARENESS.
AND NOW PEOPLE ARE
UNDERSTANDING -- ARE STARTING TO
UNDERSTAND THAT MILK BANKING IS
A THING.
I HOPE THAT GOING FORWARD
EVERYONE REMEMBERS THIS IS AN
OPTION.
ONCE THE SHELFS ARE FULL AGAIN,
I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FORGET
ABOUT THE OPTION OF MILK
DONATION.
>> SUSAN, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME
TODAY.
>> SURE, THANKS SO MUCH.
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