WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.000 Everyone 00:05.440 --> 00:11.440 Now are we ready? Oh, okay. I said hello once. I hope we caught it 00:12.800 --> 00:17.180 So we'll start out with our mid-year budget update these numbers are through 00:18.160 --> 00:24.440 Through June we did get July's yesterday, but the PowerPoint was already done. So we'll go 00:24.920 --> 00:26.360 For June 00:26.360 --> 00:29.600 Right now projected revenues are coming in 00:31.680 --> 00:35.840 $82,938 over budget, which is a good number 00:36.320 --> 00:42.640 Billing is coming in at a a good clip. We had a slow start first two months 00:43.200 --> 00:49.320 Came back around and where we're projected to actually do better than our budget 00:50.040 --> 00:52.040 payroll is down 00:52.120 --> 00:58.440 40 or over budget 43 thousand three hundred and forty two dollars projected for the year 00:59.320 --> 01:03.760 That is without our safer grant monies. So 01:04.840 --> 01:08.000 Towards the end of the year. We'll probably see a hundred and 01:09.680 --> 01:13.680 9,000 roll into that category putting that category into the degree 01:14.240 --> 01:16.080 so that was 01:16.080 --> 01:18.600 The staff and grant we received last year 01:19.160 --> 01:21.800 And we just have not received payment yet on it 01:22.360 --> 01:23.640 so 01:23.640 --> 01:25.560 We didn't count it 01:25.560 --> 01:27.800 projected operations were 01:28.760 --> 01:31.960 under budget 17,598 and 01:33.600 --> 01:35.520 our 01:35.520 --> 01:37.520 What's this? Can we get rid of this? 01:37.520 --> 01:45.360 Is that me? There we go. Projected overall overhead expenses 29,493 to the good 01:46.360 --> 01:53.520 What we what makes us nervous the rest of this year is the fuel costs still staying at a high 01:54.120 --> 02:01.680 Number and some of our aging fire apparatus are getting kind of expensive to repair 02:02.160 --> 02:04.160 So we're still working on that 02:05.760 --> 02:07.760 Call volume right now. We're at 02:08.760 --> 02:10.760 1,014 at the end of June 02:10.760 --> 02:14.920 We will be well over 2,000 calls closer to 2,100 02:15.640 --> 02:18.560 By the end of the year, which will be a record year 02:20.000 --> 02:22.000 and 02:23.200 --> 02:25.200 Just to give everyone a current 02:26.160 --> 02:31.640 Status of the services and capabilities that we can offer with our sitting budget 02:31.640 --> 02:41.400 Just as a reminder our EMS services are either two paramedic ambulances 24-7 or 02:42.640 --> 02:46.280 One ambulance and one engine so during the day 02:47.000 --> 02:50.080 We don't have a fire crew per se staff 02:50.600 --> 02:59.040 We have four full-time members and three administrators in the office so we can shuffle those around 02:59.840 --> 03:08.400 The part-time staff does not start till 10 p.m. And then at that time we have the two ambulances and an engine just 03:10.160 --> 03:12.160 Kind of where we're laid out right now 03:13.080 --> 03:20.080 We're still handling handling the emergency response capabilities at the what we call the bread and butter level 03:20.240 --> 03:28.360 We've got the MVAs the structure fires the vehicle fires basic hazmat and of course the medical emergencies 03:28.560 --> 03:32.480 When you start talking about high-angle rescue trends rescue 03:33.440 --> 03:35.440 hazardous material release 03:35.440 --> 03:42.920 Those are things we are not capable of handling internally and we will reach out to our partners 03:43.440 --> 03:45.440 Mostly the city of Madison for backup 03:47.160 --> 03:52.040 We also have the fire prevention which at this time is just chief nap in 03:52.680 --> 03:58.120 There we've got the biennial inspections of the inspectable properties throughout the district as well as 03:58.360 --> 03:59.480 land reviews 03:59.480 --> 04:01.480 We're looking at about 04:02.480 --> 04:06.320 Depending on how many violations we have through the inspections 04:07.000 --> 04:14.920 District wide we're looking close to 2,000 inspections in a year where he's out knocking on doors and correcting problems 04:16.040 --> 04:18.040 Then we have a limited community 04:19.160 --> 04:24.600 Education program right now we focus on the fourth grade level at the harvest elementary school 04:24.680 --> 04:29.480 That's about all we would have time to handle at this point 04:30.720 --> 04:32.720 So when we look at our future 04:33.880 --> 04:40.440 Opportunities potentially with additional funding or staff deployment we'll figure that out as we grow 04:41.160 --> 04:46.880 But our biggest area of opportunities are in that fire prevention and community risk reduction areas 04:48.600 --> 04:50.600 At this time 04:51.160 --> 04:54.120 The fourth grade level kids are not really our problem 04:55.000 --> 05:02.320 Most of our fires are being caused by adults and some interesting ways of running a household 05:03.120 --> 05:07.880 So we need to expand our program, but that does take time and some folks 05:07.880 --> 05:11.360 And then when we start talking about community risk reduction 05:11.880 --> 05:13.880 We're talking large scale 05:14.080 --> 05:16.080 We need to get out into 05:16.600 --> 05:23.200 Senior living facilities educate them on resources that are available for to help us with lift assists 05:23.200 --> 05:25.200 slip strips and falls 05:26.320 --> 05:33.080 Drug overdoses when they can't read prescriptions as well as hazardous 05:34.800 --> 05:36.800 Natural disasters 05:37.280 --> 05:39.440 I tell them it's safety all of it 05:39.920 --> 05:45.840 We in my opinion do not expand as a district or as a community into that area 05:46.400 --> 05:48.400 far enough yet 05:48.480 --> 05:53.480 Also in the next coming year or two, we will have our strategic initiatives 05:53.920 --> 05:56.400 We have a strategic plan that's due 05:57.120 --> 06:01.800 One station two is complete. We will have our current plan 06:03.120 --> 06:08.800 Complete and we'll have to grow into the next one. We need to go through a community risk assessment 06:10.000 --> 06:15.000 For not only industrial but residential areas 06:15.400 --> 06:21.080 That those two projects there are at least a year are standards of cover document 06:21.640 --> 06:23.280 Which will be 06:23.280 --> 06:27.800 That'll probably be two to three years out. That's a quite extensive document 06:28.280 --> 06:30.440 But that will start 06:30.440 --> 06:31.680 Facilitating 06:31.680 --> 06:38.160 Where I will be taking the department and how the next chief will be able to pick up when I leave 06:39.840 --> 06:42.480 Which might be sooner than later because I am tired 06:46.000 --> 06:49.800 Station two construction updates just so the board knows where we're at 06:50.520 --> 06:56.440 The slab was poured last week. We do have the fire hose tower wall 06:56.840 --> 07:03.880 Being constructed when I drove through yesterday. It's about six feet tall. So we're going vertical 07:05.480 --> 07:07.480 Structural steel is our 07:08.880 --> 07:13.640 Biggest red flag right now. It is being manufactured here in DeForest 07:15.000 --> 07:20.120 But they're not communicating very well. And as of yet, we do not have a delivery date 07:21.280 --> 07:26.160 So it doesn't matter how far we go up without the steel will be dead in the water 07:28.440 --> 07:35.000 Did receive news the generator will be delivered in October and we've already reached out to the furniture folks 07:35.560 --> 07:39.280 So all that should be on on time and on budget 07:39.880 --> 07:41.880 waiting on the steel 07:42.880 --> 07:51.960 For the 27 projected budget as we've talked about a few times from last year and maybe a little bit earlier this year 07:53.080 --> 07:58.240 Fire departments requests are relatively minimal going into 27 07:59.160 --> 08:06.560 For payroll, we do have the four safer grant positions that are offset by the 75% federal funding 08:07.560 --> 08:12.240 We do have the negotiated labor costs at a four percent increase and 08:13.000 --> 08:19.000 Of course health insurance does not go down ever. So there is an increase in that 08:20.240 --> 08:25.600 Operations you're going to see a large increase in utilities and operational costs for station two 08:26.720 --> 08:29.440 Most of that if not all of it is eliminated 08:30.320 --> 08:34.400 With the decrease in rents that we're paying for station one 08:35.360 --> 08:37.200 Overall outlook 08:37.200 --> 08:39.040 We're looking good 08:39.040 --> 08:40.440 right now 08:40.440 --> 08:45.200 Missing a few revenue numbers. We're in that three to three and a half percent increase 08:46.040 --> 08:48.040 the forest portion roughly 08:48.480 --> 08:50.080 $50,000 08:50.080 --> 08:54.780 We are waiting on finalized equalized values. I've got some 08:56.280 --> 08:58.840 contracted services to hammer out yet and 08:59.720 --> 09:04.680 We're waiting to see on some two percent dupes. So those numbers could improve 09:08.040 --> 09:14.400 Again ongoing review will keep keep knocking that out we did get our audit done 09:14.400 --> 09:23.080 And we have had favorable results from 25 and we are not expecting anything different from 26 09:23.080 --> 09:31.440 Our capital expenditures for 27 will be the 22 sets of structural firefighting 09:32.920 --> 09:38.440 Gear that's head to toe from helmets hoods coats pants boots gloves 09:39.800 --> 09:41.800 104 302 dollars 09:42.360 --> 09:44.360 We did run that through both 09:44.800 --> 09:47.360 The finance directors before 09:48.160 --> 09:50.160 We lacked this end of the 27 budget 09:50.480 --> 10:01.240 This is a mandatory purchase our gear is expiring for two-thirds of the department. So 10:02.560 --> 10:04.560 It's kind of a must-have 10:05.800 --> 10:12.880 Nothing else would be included in the 27 budget as we look out past 27 10:14.080 --> 10:16.080 28 is going to be a big year 10:16.160 --> 10:20.720 We're going to see that grant funding go from 75 percent to 25 percent 10:21.360 --> 10:26.000 And then in 29 we will have an ambulance here for delivery 10:26.600 --> 10:31.280 We're needing some EMS equipment. We'll have a few more sets of structural gear 10:32.280 --> 10:35.160 We'll have to absorb all four positions 10:36.520 --> 10:41.920 That are funded by the safer grant and we have an engine by 29 that'll be 10:42.680 --> 10:45.520 four years past due on replacement and 10:46.080 --> 10:53.600 With the cost of that or the timeline of that engine sitting somewhere around two to three years once we pull the trigger on it 10:54.320 --> 10:56.320 so 10:56.520 --> 11:01.120 2829s might be a bigger struggle for us on our end 11:02.040 --> 11:10.040 So again our long-term focus with the budget process is the sustainable staffing levels the equipment replacement and 11:11.120 --> 11:13.120 capital investment 11:13.120 --> 11:16.320 And I believe that is all I got 11:22.880 --> 11:24.880 Thank you chief any questions 11:26.840 --> 11:32.400 Melanie I was just curious. Thanks for the presentation. I'm just curious about 11:34.360 --> 11:40.320 You mentioned right at the end sustainable staffing levels and one I think it's great that we have a 11:40.840 --> 11:42.640 paramedic service 11:42.640 --> 11:47.640 That's a higher level of care than say an EMT or AEMT service 11:47.640 --> 11:55.400 So like our community is really lucky that we have that and I am glad to see the investment in the the employees that's in your 11:56.080 --> 12:00.040 Presentation, I'm just curious on staffing generally because I do know that I 12:01.360 --> 12:04.080 Don't know about Dane County very well, but other parts of the state 12:04.080 --> 12:09.320 I've heard paramedic staffing in particular can be really difficult just because there's 12:10.320 --> 12:17.720 Fewer of them and it tends to be regional. So I'm just curious if that's like a challenge that we see in our department and 12:18.160 --> 12:20.160 Just how staffing is generally? 12:21.120 --> 12:26.720 Staffing generally we will we'll be hiring our last position in the next two weeks 12:27.200 --> 12:29.200 So then we'll be fully staffed 12:29.840 --> 12:31.840 we tend to 12:33.840 --> 12:35.840 Get them before they have paramedic 12:36.480 --> 12:44.800 Training and then we educate them through and usually main means we have a higher retention rate with our staff 12:46.400 --> 12:48.640 We're lucky in the fact that 12:49.920 --> 12:53.680 According to union numbers. We are one of the best compensated departments 12:54.640 --> 12:57.520 in Dane County, which tends to bring us some folks in 12:58.480 --> 13:01.280 But when we say best compensated that also means 13:02.000 --> 13:08.000 Equipment insurance all the benefits so our complete package is better than most in Dane County 13:09.120 --> 13:15.600 We have had some folks that have left to go lateral movements or into other counties 13:17.280 --> 13:21.120 Somebody wants to write in Chicago. I'm not going to keep them into force 13:22.000 --> 13:28.720 So we haven't had the same staffing concerns. Maybe as other departments have had so far not gone 13:29.600 --> 13:33.680 Well, thank you. That's great. I really think that's excellent that we're investing in 13:34.400 --> 13:39.280 the education of folks and seeing them through that paramedic schooling. So thanks 13:44.480 --> 13:46.480 Jim 13:47.040 --> 13:52.160 Chief you mentioned a couple slides back you talked about your operationals 13:52.960 --> 13:58.160 Going up, but then you said it'd be offset by the rent. Could you explain that a bit more? 13:58.960 --> 14:00.960 Well, we paid 14:01.360 --> 14:04.240 Roughly $140,000 a year in rent 14:04.960 --> 14:06.640 back to 14:06.640 --> 14:08.400 our landlord 14:08.400 --> 14:10.640 With station two coming online 14:11.360 --> 14:13.840 We're not going to be paying rent on either building 14:14.480 --> 14:20.960 So we took that that extra money and that's what's paying for utilities and operating costs in station two 14:21.440 --> 14:24.160 So we didn't take that big hit in the budget 14:25.120 --> 14:27.120 I 14:27.120 --> 14:29.120 Thank you 14:31.440 --> 14:33.440 Anyone else 14:33.440 --> 14:35.440 I can't see alicia on zoom 14:37.440 --> 14:42.080 She was just on under apple user and I asked her to confirm that it's her 14:42.880 --> 14:44.880 She's gonna try to log back in with her knee 14:45.680 --> 14:52.400 Okay, so that we know that it's her. Okay, so I guess she doesn't have any questions then. All right, if that's 14:53.280 --> 14:54.560 Oh 14:54.560 --> 14:56.560 Okay, good 14:56.560 --> 15:00.240 Um if that's all thank you chief you got 15:02.480 --> 15:10.720 Next up is the presentation of the initial 2027 department budget update for the deforest police department and capital improvement plan 15:12.240 --> 15:14.240 Chief Olson 15:22.800 --> 15:24.800 Who captain riddle 15:40.480 --> 15:42.480 I'm gonna ask this circuit 15:53.280 --> 15:55.280 All 15:55.760 --> 15:57.760 All right 15:58.000 --> 16:04.160 So good evening. I gave you some documents already bird to ear in just a minute as we can kind of get into it, but as 16:05.600 --> 16:10.080 We kind of are going to give you a little bit of overview of the 2027 budget request 16:10.720 --> 16:14.160 For the PD. I thought it's important to kind of look back a little bit 16:15.120 --> 16:18.240 I just closed this calendar. Is this something you guys need open 16:18.720 --> 16:20.720 I 16:20.720 --> 16:22.160 Was down there 16:22.160 --> 16:28.160 Uh at 2026 and just kind of give you an update as to where we sit operationally in 2026 obviously 16:28.880 --> 16:30.080 trying to be 16:30.080 --> 16:34.080 effective and good stewards of the funds that were given through the pet tax payers and the taxing 16:35.200 --> 16:37.360 Power and through the board through our budget process 16:37.920 --> 16:44.640 I'll hit on a couple of these and then you'll see these numbers again as in comparison as we kind of get into the 2027 ask and 16:44.720 --> 16:46.640 I'll explain how this all goes 16:46.640 --> 16:48.080 So over time 16:48.080 --> 16:51.760 Right now we're doing pretty well. These numbers were updated as of yesterday 16:52.080 --> 16:56.640 So there's a daylapse and I'll explain there's some are going to close up here a little bit soon 16:57.520 --> 17:00.800 Over time we're doing good. We're just about halfway through the overtime budget 17:01.360 --> 17:06.320 But there's going to be some things that are going to affect the overtime usage coming up here and plus it's the unknown 17:06.320 --> 17:10.160 So we keep trying to analyze our overtime to see if we're in par or 17:11.360 --> 17:13.360 Making sure that we don't 17:13.440 --> 17:14.960 Exceed funding 17:14.960 --> 17:21.600 We have added and we have for years in our payroll system a bunch of codes that the captain is a very robust report for me 17:22.720 --> 17:30.880 Every pay period so we know where we're spending money whether it's in court costs court cancellation extension of duty training sick callouts or overtime coverage 17:30.880 --> 17:34.080 So we have a pretty good handle that where we spend resources 17:34.720 --> 17:37.360 So that we can try to mitigate that for future events 17:38.240 --> 17:40.480 Medical evaluations obviously is good 17:41.280 --> 17:45.040 All of the electric gas we're leaving just we're doing well with those 17:45.680 --> 17:46.720 Um 17:46.720 --> 17:51.680 All these categories are are in good place. Does the technology will close up a little bit? 17:51.760 --> 17:56.480 We just got the bill bill for Madison it so it's 16 17,000 for this one 17:56.800 --> 17:59.920 So that'll close that gap up a little bit get your true to what we budgeted 18:01.360 --> 18:07.760 Uh do's there's a reason and you'll see why that's a little bit higher here as we get into the 27. I'll explain it there 18:08.720 --> 18:14.240 But training we're good. There's some training courses coming up that people are going to attend that that'll close that gap as well 18:14.800 --> 18:20.960 Uh, especially that continued education and travel those will all get close to their closer to what the actual budget amount is 18:21.920 --> 18:27.520 Operating is good and there's also some other things that I just approved the bill for we bought a handheld radio 18:27.680 --> 18:33.920 That's just over 5,000 that'll close the that gap as well. So these will all be true. Just like the fire department 18:34.240 --> 18:39.920 Um, we continue to watch fuel. We didn't notice in one month. I think two months ago 18:39.920 --> 18:44.960 We got a $6,000 fuel bill when gas was really up there. It's coming down a little bit. So 18:45.840 --> 18:48.560 That loss that there is an election in a few months, which means 18:49.040 --> 18:51.760 I expect the price to go down as we get closer to the midterms 18:52.400 --> 18:54.560 Um as people jockey for positions. So 18:55.360 --> 18:56.880 Um 18:56.880 --> 18:59.920 As we continue just a couple of the things vehicle repairs were still good 19:00.400 --> 19:04.480 You can see all the categories that we're at were we're in a really good shape in 2026 19:04.960 --> 19:07.680 But again, there's some other expenses that haven't quite hit yet 19:08.320 --> 19:12.080 Different vendors and everything bill different times a year. So these numbers will close up to get 19:12.640 --> 19:15.280 True or closer to the actual budget at amount 19:16.080 --> 19:21.440 The non capital expense to see here was uh some office furniture from last year that by time we 19:22.080 --> 19:27.200 Ordered it to the time it came in the price had gone up. So we ended up with 400 500 bucks over 19:28.560 --> 19:29.760 Um 19:29.760 --> 19:34.560 The documents I gave you was our strategic plan. This is something that I think I bought to the board 19:34.880 --> 19:37.920 Last year if I remember right and kind of shared it with you 19:38.240 --> 19:43.120 Um, we redid this after our first strategic plan. We had finished basically all the items 19:43.600 --> 19:45.120 From 2019 19:45.120 --> 19:49.120 Uh, we finished it. We re updated it with the input of staff stakeholders 19:49.120 --> 19:52.640 I think I sent the board even at that time if you were here with the board 19:53.120 --> 19:55.120 Uh some feedback instrument 19:56.080 --> 20:01.360 Thanks to stay safe for helping put it together making it look pretty and adding some pictures and making it look good for us 20:02.000 --> 20:03.200 um 20:03.200 --> 20:05.040 the uh 20:05.040 --> 20:08.640 The plan focuses on five different goals or five different initiatives 20:09.200 --> 20:14.000 Investing in public safety the development inclusion transparency and accountability and health and wellness 20:14.480 --> 20:18.320 Hey, chafe. Can you give us a second that looks like we're not sharing your presentation 20:19.280 --> 20:21.280 Okay 20:25.920 --> 20:27.920 You 20:32.880 --> 20:34.880 Can we just stop sharing the re-share 20:37.520 --> 20:39.520 Let the expert handle that 20:55.120 --> 20:57.120 You 21:06.560 --> 21:08.560 Okay, so 21:08.960 --> 21:14.400 In our strategic plan there's 63 different initiatives we've identified and so it gets into the task part of it 21:14.400 --> 21:20.880 Which is the excel print out you have the green highlighted ones we're either working on or if accomplished or continuing to be in progress 21:20.960 --> 21:23.920 Or things are going to take some time. So we just economists in process 21:24.480 --> 21:28.240 We're about 54 of those things that be the main completed or in process 21:28.240 --> 21:31.040 Which is a pretty good start for about a year year and a half work on it 21:31.520 --> 21:35.040 Um, some of them are going to be a little bit more detailed a little bit more take a little bit more 21:35.280 --> 21:41.840 Um work to get it done collaboratively. So we're still working through that process and the things that we identify budgetarily 21:42.960 --> 21:46.720 Are generally meet our strategic plan or our equipment needs 21:47.440 --> 21:51.440 We don't budget based on wants everything that we have is is knee driven 21:52.000 --> 21:54.560 For years we've heard kick it down the road not this year 21:55.120 --> 22:00.160 And we're at a point where some of the things we're going to talk about are just starting to fail and we have to get them replaced 22:00.800 --> 22:02.080 um 22:02.080 --> 22:06.400 The plan was also approved by our police commission. Obviously the ones that oversee the police department 22:06.400 --> 22:10.480 So they have all seen this as well. It approved the plan just as we released it. So 22:12.000 --> 22:14.000 As we start to get into 2027 22:14.160 --> 22:20.560 Um, you know, we we took a hard line. I asked for feedback from staff from the supervisory team 22:21.120 --> 22:26.800 As to what things that they thought we needed in the budget and then scrutinized to try to figure out what's really truly in need versus 22:26.800 --> 22:31.680 Something somebody wants anything that couldn't be identified as a need was just taken off the list 22:32.480 --> 22:39.040 Um, there's driving factors for us labor. Obviously as a driving factor in any budget doesn't really matter which you look at 22:39.680 --> 22:42.320 86 90 percent of your costs are going to be labor driven 22:42.880 --> 22:45.840 Technology increases significant. You'll see that momentarily 22:46.320 --> 22:47.760 Uh equipment needs 22:47.760 --> 22:51.440 Uh, we have some and then just the rising costs of products and service 22:52.080 --> 22:55.120 Are uh, they're kyroll said that you know, it's he'd rather go 22:55.760 --> 23:00.800 Catch bad guys than do budgeting. So I can't disagree with them Brandon on the other hand loves it 23:01.600 --> 23:02.560 Um 23:02.560 --> 23:06.880 Our labor obviously will talk in the board meeting a little bit later about the cba where that all sits 23:07.040 --> 23:09.680 Um, so I'm not going to touch on anything more with that 23:10.240 --> 23:12.880 Not asking for any new personnel in 20 27 23:13.600 --> 23:18.160 Can handle where we are. We're really probably down one, but we're going to hold the line with it 23:18.800 --> 23:26.240 Um, what I do I'm asking to do is to take we have five sergeants to reallocate one of those sergeants positions to lieutenant's position 23:26.880 --> 23:32.800 Based on a payment and who you look at a different in in the salary plus benefit 23:33.280 --> 23:38.480 It's about a $7,500 cost totally. So you'll see the chart here 23:39.600 --> 23:46.400 Right now the gap we have is in the lieutenant on the patrol side. So technically right now. I have four sergeants in patrol 23:47.280 --> 23:52.800 That report to a captain which kind of really puts captain readle in a really awkward position. He's 23:53.520 --> 23:59.600 Um having sergeants report to him plus getting other his other daily tasks executive level tasks that kind of really 24:00.000 --> 24:02.800 Put him over really over the works side of it 24:03.520 --> 24:09.520 Um, what would happen is this position here this uh investigative sergeant where it currently has sergeant pain 24:10.080 --> 24:13.920 Would then be eliminated so you'd have a lieutenant in charge of investigations 24:14.640 --> 24:16.240 and um 24:16.240 --> 24:19.920 administration and then a lieutenant charge of investigate of patrol. Excuse me 24:20.480 --> 24:22.480 And that's how that would shake out 24:23.280 --> 24:25.520 With the uh 24:25.520 --> 24:30.960 promotion of sergeant o'Connell that we had that promotion ceremony yesterday. He was promoted effective july 11th 24:31.680 --> 24:38.480 You can see on the patrol side of the department. There's four sergeants two nights two days. So the captain put together a good 24:38.720 --> 24:40.720 um staffing model for them 24:41.840 --> 24:43.840 And it really helps us with coverage 24:44.160 --> 24:50.480 Not only on the street, but just accountability transparency and everything that you need to keep our young staff kind of focused 24:51.040 --> 24:54.400 When we look at the patrol staff and who's all in the patrol staff 24:54.560 --> 24:59.760 Um, it's not lost that i've hired all of them. So that means all of them have less than eight years experience 25:00.320 --> 25:05.920 Which starts to get which everybody's in the same boat don't get me wrong like we're not unique in that in that aspect 25:06.400 --> 25:12.560 But having the four sergeants there to really guide mentor coach develop and hold accountable is an important thing 25:13.120 --> 25:16.480 So if we get if I take this sergeant out 25:17.120 --> 25:23.120 From one of the ones who apply to lieutenant, you would still leave four sergeants in patrol 25:23.200 --> 25:27.200 So it's still be two days shift to night shift and they mirror up with their teams 25:29.120 --> 25:34.000 Officer summers is the one that's currently at military leave. I've spoken to her in the last couple weeks 25:34.000 --> 25:39.040 She does not intend to come back to the department once I get that writing will be able to fill that position as well 25:39.840 --> 25:41.840 The ucera time runs out in 25:42.400 --> 25:44.400 October 25:44.480 --> 25:50.880 With that officer Kyle Casasola is announced. He's leaving the department. He resigns effective august 20th 25:51.920 --> 25:54.160 He's going to work for mawakie pd in his 25:55.360 --> 25:59.280 I look exactly I did in reverse order. I worked for mawakie for 29 in game here 25:59.760 --> 26:04.400 He's just flipping the script a little bit. But uh, he told me it's driven on 26:05.280 --> 26:08.880 desire to be a little bit busier and they make more money. They're going to start him at top paint 26:09.040 --> 26:14.000 So it's they're doing the first lateral effort group over there. So good luck to him 26:14.000 --> 26:18.080 We wish him safety and health and happiness and everything he's given us five good years of service 26:18.080 --> 26:21.760 So he's he's you know put it his time with us. We appreciate it 26:23.120 --> 26:25.520 So that's the ask for the lieutenant spot 26:27.360 --> 26:29.360 Technology, this is the big increase 26:29.680 --> 26:36.800 We currently have our records management system through madison it eric larson is there is our representative if you will he services our stuff 26:37.760 --> 26:43.520 So they do our records management system and eric also supports our tracks, which is our axing to crash 26:44.080 --> 26:46.160 as jim knows it's our crash data and also our 26:47.120 --> 26:49.120 citation writing program 26:49.120 --> 26:53.040 With him, uh, we get that service basically all encompassing 26:53.760 --> 26:57.520 Tyler new world is our records management system that madison has 26:58.080 --> 27:02.640 You're supposed to be an upgrade and I say supposed to be because about oh, I don't know 27:02.720 --> 27:04.640 10 minutes before I came over here 27:04.640 --> 27:09.680 I got an email from tom dole who's their manager at madisonit saying that something may get delayed 27:09.760 --> 27:12.400 We don't know if the cost is going to really chew hold out 27:12.960 --> 27:17.280 So they have told me that the cost for 27 is going to be that number that 47 000 27:17.760 --> 27:19.760 You can see we paid in 26 27:20.240 --> 27:21.600 um 27:21.600 --> 27:26.640 And there's so it's a it's a significant increase in addition one of the consortium groups wanaki 27:27.120 --> 27:29.680 Has left the consortium making us the largest 27:30.240 --> 27:34.240 Department in the consortium. So proportionally we pick up a little bit more cost 27:34.800 --> 27:41.120 I'm anticipating even moving forward into 28 that our cost for it will be about 40 000 a year 27:41.360 --> 27:45.920 So it's not going to go all the way back down even though soon one time cost for the upgraded records management 27:46.640 --> 27:52.720 Um, we need the records management system. They're about 1.5 million dollars to buy our own standalone plus half a million 27:52.720 --> 27:55.280 Dollars roughly to extract our data. So 27:56.400 --> 28:00.320 We get a pretty good deal even with the the increase for the year, but that's just 28:01.120 --> 28:05.520 They need to save the cost of doing business, but that's just kind of what we got quoted from them 28:06.560 --> 28:09.840 Uh data pilot for those around the board remember we approved that a few years ago 28:09.840 --> 28:12.320 I've paid for it a couple of years out of acid forfeiture 28:12.320 --> 28:14.480 We're not in a position to do that right now 28:14.480 --> 28:18.400 So that cost gets rolled into the budget that was approved by the board when that was 28:19.040 --> 28:21.040 Program was approved a few years ago 28:22.240 --> 28:27.360 Um, some of the equipment needs our body warrant cameras. I meant to grab one. I forgot to 28:28.080 --> 28:35.520 Um, our body warrant cameras are basically starting to fail and it's a technology if you watch the news at all is really really important for us 28:36.240 --> 28:37.680 Um 28:37.680 --> 28:41.680 Clearly we have the gtech. It's the bc2 if when you get real specific 28:41.920 --> 28:46.400 Uh, they don't support it anymore. They don't make them anymore. They don't have any more parts to fix them 28:46.960 --> 28:51.680 The batteries are lasting staff about six to eight hours on a 10 hour shift 28:51.760 --> 28:54.480 So they got to keep docking it or recharging it during their shift 28:55.200 --> 29:00.000 Challenge becomes if they don't grab it out of the car and put it back on before they get out now. We don't have that footage 29:01.040 --> 29:03.840 The new one the bc4 that I put the picture in here 29:04.480 --> 29:07.600 The benefit to it is now gtech is warranting the batteries 29:08.160 --> 29:11.920 Whereas the ones that we have they didn't so I didn't buy the extended warranty for them 29:12.240 --> 29:15.600 The camera was like 500 bucks the original one is a little bit more 29:16.160 --> 29:22.480 But if the if the battery starts to fail that replaced the unit so it would be better for us in the long run to keep them five 29:22.560 --> 29:24.560 Maybe even six years 29:24.720 --> 29:28.080 They're about $17,000 to update the body worn cameras only 29:30.000 --> 29:33.360 With that comes the in car system that also needs to be updated 29:35.120 --> 29:38.640 We have seven of them that we need to get updated obviously we have more cars than that 29:38.800 --> 29:44.480 But when squad 20 got totaled on the interstate last year we bought a new system. We don't need to do that 29:45.120 --> 29:48.960 We'd expanded because we had a detective car that had didn't have a system 29:49.520 --> 29:50.560 Um 29:50.560 --> 29:55.840 Two three years ago that system is still in good condition and serviceable. We're going to use that system 29:56.480 --> 30:01.200 And then the canine part got a different they got a newer one. So we don't need that 30:01.520 --> 30:04.240 So with the system comes the dvr, which is the big box 30:05.040 --> 30:11.600 This camera has got multiple different camera lenses to it. So it gives us a better view in 2019 our cars used to have 30:12.320 --> 30:12.960 Uh 30:12.960 --> 30:16.960 Five four or five cameras in them totally we're now down to three, which is good 30:17.440 --> 30:19.440 We don't need all those but um 30:19.920 --> 30:25.200 And then the infrared camera for the backseat and then the uh monitor so the officers can log in 30:26.640 --> 30:28.960 Comes with a price, but I can tell you comparatively 30:29.440 --> 30:34.160 Axon, which is the other one you generally hear when you hear about you know evidence.com and all the big things 30:34.400 --> 30:40.880 It's probably close to $300,000 for the same equipment. GTAC gives us 4k possibility. We won't do that 30:40.960 --> 30:42.800 It'll be 1080p's 30:42.800 --> 30:44.640 with a good frame rate 30:44.720 --> 30:48.400 And gives us everything we need so with a much more affordable price tag 30:50.800 --> 30:54.960 We do a lot of fire to alarm it's called what it is. It's a panic alarm. We can put in houses 30:55.040 --> 30:57.680 We've done it for victims if you're called a few years ago 30:58.080 --> 31:01.040 We had the young man that went to the door to try to kill a family 31:01.520 --> 31:04.240 We put it in that victim's family's house at the time 31:04.720 --> 31:09.280 We did have a village board member who was being threatened. We installed it in their house at the time 31:09.680 --> 31:14.080 Um, so it's a deployable panic alarm with you if you if they deploy it 31:14.160 --> 31:15.680 they hit the 31:15.680 --> 31:17.040 panic alarm 31:17.040 --> 31:22.960 It will immediately notify our officers on our local channel where where where it is and they can respond to the residents 31:22.960 --> 31:26.400 It basically cuts off having to try to get through a phone and call 911 31:27.040 --> 31:34.320 Uh wait for it to somebody to answer get that over to a dispatcher dispatch the call it cuts off potentially three to five minutes of response time 31:35.120 --> 31:37.120 um our unit is 31:37.760 --> 31:39.440 15 31:39.440 --> 31:41.520 It pretty old. I guess it's the best way we can put it 31:41.600 --> 31:44.640 It's uh doesn't quite need the crank to start it, but it's close 31:45.520 --> 31:48.080 So, uh, that's something we're looking to replace and update 31:48.720 --> 31:51.200 Again, when we need it, we just don't want it to fail on somebody 31:52.640 --> 31:59.200 Uh technology wise a couple other things that have to be there and first one the squad laptops, uh six squad laptops 31:59.200 --> 32:03.520 Obviously with the cost of technology and chips. That's getting a little expensive 32:03.920 --> 32:07.360 Right now. That's what they've quoted me about 19 589 for six of them 32:07.840 --> 32:11.360 With the caveat that that might go up if del raises their prices again, which 32:12.400 --> 32:15.600 They just keep raising them raising them abouts chips. It's chips. It's this 32:16.240 --> 32:20.480 Um, the last time we really replaced all of them was 20 20 21 32:20.560 --> 32:23.680 There was a permanent administration grant that came for law enforcement 32:23.680 --> 32:26.000 We could either use the funds for certain things 32:26.480 --> 32:32.640 We were based all our laptops at that time and be honest that kind of got away thinking that I can't believe it's 2026 and 32:33.360 --> 32:37.280 Some of the keys are like falling off the computer. So, um, it's time to replace 32:37.360 --> 32:38.240 Those 32:38.240 --> 32:43.600 Uh to make sure that our portable radio staying in good shape. We replace one to two per year. It's a two year 32:44.320 --> 32:49.360 So it's about they're just over $5,000 per portable radio radio microphone 32:49.760 --> 32:50.880 Um 32:50.880 --> 32:53.360 And charger it comes with that so we get the whole package 32:55.840 --> 33:00.160 And then the last thing that in the car the car just doesn't we just don't get the car with everything in it 33:00.240 --> 33:02.240 The cradle point router that's in it 33:02.560 --> 33:04.800 Um, allows officers to connect to the internet 33:05.760 --> 33:07.280 pretty efficiently 33:07.280 --> 33:11.520 Um, the ones we have are like two g3 g's and are becoming obsolete 33:11.760 --> 33:16.720 So this five won't replace all of them, but it will get us at least halfway through 33:16.720 --> 33:19.120 So we'll be able to do it over a two-year period 33:21.200 --> 33:23.200 Uh furniture we do we're not 33:23.600 --> 33:26.560 Adding more furniture. We're just trying to get the ones that are 33:27.360 --> 33:31.600 More heavily used aka the sardin's office the captain's office lieutenant's office 33:32.080 --> 33:36.400 Uh to have sit stand capabilities so they can stand up if they're sitting there for a long time 33:36.960 --> 33:38.560 Uh be a little bit more 33:38.560 --> 33:44.640 Orgrometric and things like that. So a couple of the chairs are still we're still replacing those uh heavy use 33:46.160 --> 33:48.160 Can't just buy the 33:48.160 --> 33:50.400 The one fsa amazon or things like that because they 33:50.960 --> 33:56.000 With pistols and equipment that we wear it just literally wears a hole in the chair within a year 33:56.080 --> 33:57.440 And then it's junk 33:57.440 --> 34:02.640 So this has heavier duty fabric. We've been using them now for a couple of years and they've actually held up really well 34:04.080 --> 34:06.080 Uh two squad cars 34:06.080 --> 34:07.440 It 34:07.440 --> 34:12.800 It's not funny, but the interesting thing we went to dodge is probably seven years ago 34:13.520 --> 34:16.080 Um dodge has been great to work with 34:16.560 --> 34:17.840 Um 34:17.840 --> 34:23.040 They don't change things like Ford will change to make the back door like one inch bigger none of your equipment works 34:23.600 --> 34:25.920 Dodge has not done that at all since we started buying them 34:26.480 --> 34:27.440 So 34:27.440 --> 34:34.720 We see a little bit of a price decrease in upfitting in other words installing all the equipment because the things transfer vehicle to vehicle 34:35.280 --> 34:38.320 Uh what we are asking to do is increase our vehicle fleet by one 34:38.960 --> 34:42.080 And we would do that by not trading and not auctioning two cars 34:42.720 --> 34:47.760 As you saw in the org chart, I'm going to have two sergeants working all of it administrative sergeant working all of a lieutenant 34:47.840 --> 34:49.840 My captain my self 34:49.840 --> 34:52.560 Um and officers the way their schedules works 34:52.960 --> 34:56.640 There's days I walk out my car is gone. They're out using it for something and 34:57.440 --> 35:02.480 There's no cars available. So adding one more car and we would do it. She's just not trading in a car 35:03.120 --> 35:05.760 It would also fit in our vehicle plan that was created 35:06.640 --> 35:09.920 Sergeant uh painting the captain created a plan a few years ago 35:11.680 --> 35:17.360 Which we keep cars for five to six years and we're getting a really good return on the investment the mileage is still good when we turn them in 35:19.840 --> 35:21.840 We uh sold 35:22.080 --> 35:27.920 One of the dodges strangles this year and recuperated about 16 17 000 for the car 35:27.920 --> 35:32.080 Which was a pretty good return at that point first plot car that's got a lot of idle hours on it 35:32.720 --> 35:39.920 We also sold our last Ford and got over 10 000 for which was actually bought by a kid in the village who lives just up the street 35:39.920 --> 35:42.960 We saw them driving it. Oh, I love these things. So 35:44.560 --> 35:45.680 Overall 35:45.680 --> 35:47.680 Dodges only raised their price maybe 35:48.480 --> 35:54.800 1,800 $2,000 in the last seven years it is it hasn't been a huge price increase, which is kind of amazing 35:55.520 --> 36:03.920 But more importantly they haven't changed the body inside of the vehicle much which has helped us being able to reuse equipment saves us a long run 36:06.000 --> 36:09.680 Medical evaluations goes up a little bit in 27 36:11.280 --> 36:13.600 We use a mental health providers that officers get 36:14.560 --> 36:21.680 debriefs every year that is partially offset so in the budget that might actually come down a little bit when we recoup the cost 36:22.240 --> 36:25.840 We do get a thousand dollars back from our insurance carrier for doing these things 36:26.320 --> 36:31.440 And also anybody who's on our internet crimes against children task force. I think there's seven of them 36:31.920 --> 36:38.800 Um, the state will cover a portion of their mental health debrief. So it's like a one-hour session. I just did mine 36:39.760 --> 36:43.120 They're actually kind of a good thing to do you mean with a provider telehealth wise 36:44.880 --> 36:45.840 And 36:45.840 --> 36:49.680 They just walk you through debriefing anything that's bothering you and things like that 36:49.680 --> 36:55.200 So it's a really good thing when I look at the number of times our officers are doing CPR and people on infants 36:55.760 --> 36:59.680 The amount of times they respond to significant injury events 37:01.760 --> 37:06.880 A lot different than well 37 years ago for me where it was just rub some dirt on it. He'll be fine 37:07.360 --> 37:09.360 It's actually a good thing for them to have 37:10.880 --> 37:14.880 So just a quick snapshot of 27 so you can see the numbers the left is the 37:15.520 --> 37:19.040 2026 budgeted amount 27 requests is on the right side 37:19.680 --> 37:22.800 I just use a 3% stakeholder for a placeholder for 37:23.360 --> 37:25.760 overtime wages so increase that 3% 37:26.560 --> 37:31.200 Again, the comparable is in 2024 our budget for overtime was $70,000 37:31.760 --> 37:35.040 So we've been able to control it to a point to bring it down basically 20 grand 37:35.840 --> 37:37.840 or the sum of years 37:38.320 --> 37:40.880 Medical evaluations. We just talked about that goes up a little bit 37:41.280 --> 37:46.720 This might come down when I start looking at a rebates we start to get from insurance other sources 37:48.640 --> 37:50.640 The utilities I left the same 37:51.440 --> 37:53.440 office supplies 37:53.600 --> 38:00.480 Technology if you take data pilot and you take the increase to Madison it that absorbs all of that increase plus some 38:00.880 --> 38:06.800 So we've been able to reduce get rid of one time usage programs things like that and been able to control that 38:06.800 --> 38:07.840 That's just 38:07.840 --> 38:09.840 Unintended unexpected increase 38:10.400 --> 38:12.880 The do's line. I was just talking to Brandon about this afternoon 38:12.880 --> 38:17.600 I found out that the link in their program wasn't working. So this number is actually more true 38:18.320 --> 38:24.800 It just hasn't been linked right for last year or two. So it's always been showing this. That's why that increases 38:25.680 --> 38:27.200 I 38:27.200 --> 38:31.440 Training we found a course that we didn't need adjusted for things. It came down a couple hundred bucks 38:32.160 --> 38:35.120 Continuing education and travel costs stayed the same 38:36.560 --> 38:42.000 Operating again just trying to look at where we're spending money was able to bring it down a few hundred dollars 38:42.000 --> 38:45.440 Some things went up some things went down. There was a one-time purchase in there. I took out 38:46.400 --> 38:51.680 Fuel we're going to leave it set here in hopes that that number kind of stabilizes 38:52.560 --> 38:58.080 We have been working on an internal adaptation should it need where fuel spike again 38:59.200 --> 39:02.640 How do we still provide good service to our stakeholders? 39:03.120 --> 39:05.920 But be cognizant of that expense so 39:07.200 --> 39:13.280 Vehicle repairs that does go up. We've learned that all of our vehicles have to have persuaded tires on it 39:14.160 --> 39:16.000 The problem becomes 39:16.000 --> 39:20.800 With developments and other things if the officer runs over a nail in the tire, you can't patch it 39:21.440 --> 39:22.560 It voids the warranty 39:22.560 --> 39:28.080 So we have to literally replace the entire tire if they hit if they get a nail in the tire, which happens 39:28.720 --> 39:33.280 Occasionally also the deaths the brakes and the vehicles are all pursuit rated now 39:33.280 --> 39:36.480 So they're a little bit more expensive to to adjust and fix 39:37.760 --> 39:43.120 We had our vehicle fleet supervisor sergeant ritzma who kind of manages all of that stuff for us 39:44.480 --> 39:48.080 We sent him down to our the dealer that we work with pretty closely 39:48.960 --> 39:53.280 They've been good about offering us discounts for basically making them their preferred provider 39:53.360 --> 39:55.360 If you will and taking our cars are for service 39:55.920 --> 40:00.480 Thanks to Greg and his team. They still do oil changes for us, which has already saved us significant 40:00.960 --> 40:06.400 Money by just buying a barrel oil and having our mechanic here do basic maintenance to the vehicles 40:06.640 --> 40:09.680 So that part has actually been very very helpful 40:11.360 --> 40:13.360 The maintenance it says the same 40:14.080 --> 40:18.400 Where you'll see these big numbers now is and working with Brandon to make sure I didn't leave anything behind 40:18.960 --> 40:23.520 Um, we just put the numbers here so you can see it so all the equipment that's non-capital in the world 40:23.600 --> 40:25.600 It's not over $5,000 40:25.600 --> 40:27.760 Body-worn cameras and things like that 40:27.760 --> 40:32.400 Is in that $56,000 the number at the bottom that's hard to see because of the zoom 40:33.040 --> 40:35.040 The capital purchases or anything over 40:36.880 --> 40:41.920 Over the $5,000 mark and that's like the in-car camera system and things like that 40:42.400 --> 40:44.720 It turned just in the 160 40:45.840 --> 40:48.960 That's the two cars the upfits of the cars things like that 40:49.440 --> 40:53.760 It's $167,000 so those go into the borrowing side 40:55.440 --> 40:57.440 And with that I think 40:58.480 --> 41:03.760 Close to 20 minutes, but if there's questions we can happily answer them for you 41:04.240 --> 41:06.240 So 41:07.680 --> 41:09.680 Brad 41:10.400 --> 41:15.280 Were these goals like an annual goal setting or is this a multi-year 41:16.480 --> 41:21.040 The strap plan it's about a five to seven year this supports this 41:22.080 --> 41:25.760 Five to seven years. So we tried to do a five the first plan we had was I 41:26.320 --> 41:31.280 Now did a seven year plan. We had about 96 down in five years. So we updated 41:31.280 --> 41:33.280 And 41:33.680 --> 41:38.960 Other questions you guys have a lot of transports to like Mendoza or other locations that 41:40.240 --> 41:44.960 Cost a considerable amount for over time travel expenses everything 41:46.000 --> 41:49.920 So we've been kind of lucky lately, but now that you bought it up 41:51.760 --> 41:57.120 We've been fortunate lately. We've been okay that way occasionally we do they're just totally unpredictable 41:57.520 --> 41:58.560 Um 41:58.560 --> 42:01.280 When we do have to make a transport it generally happens in the middle night 42:01.280 --> 42:06.000 The expense we get is having an officer stay in the village while somebody is on a three-hour transport 42:10.640 --> 42:12.640 Are they all still going up to win a bagel 42:13.440 --> 42:16.640 If it's an ed that we can't place locally. Yeah, it's not volunteering 42:21.040 --> 42:23.040 Oh alicia 42:23.200 --> 42:26.080 Quick question on the varda systems like does 42:26.400 --> 42:32.960 Or does anybody currently have those in their house and does that 4100 include like replacing those systems 42:33.520 --> 42:36.240 Like in-house, or could you talk a little bit more about that? 42:37.600 --> 42:41.120 Yeah, so the varda system is currently not deployed. It is still at the PD 42:41.120 --> 42:45.120 So we keep it retain it in-house when it's not out there 42:45.600 --> 42:49.280 The original ask was probably closer to 6,000 but it had some 42:49.760 --> 42:54.000 Sensors that I didn't deem necessary like one for under the door mat and one for windows 42:54.080 --> 42:58.160 I mean it's things that we're really worried about the panic alarm. So um 42:59.440 --> 43:03.200 Currently it's not deployed but other agencies do have them and use them 43:03.600 --> 43:07.520 It's hard for us to get them from victim services at the DA's office 43:08.240 --> 43:12.640 Because they're just in high demand and they generally end up in the city. So uh for us 43:12.640 --> 43:15.440 It's it's beneficial to have our own standalone system 43:16.400 --> 43:19.360 I hope I got all your answers. Yep. Thank you 43:22.320 --> 43:24.320 Clean 43:25.920 --> 43:30.000 Thanks chief for all this information. There's a lot there and 43:31.840 --> 43:35.920 I was just kind of wondering with everything that you do have here 43:36.480 --> 43:42.000 Is there anything else that you would want us to know or want to add about your department that 43:42.640 --> 43:45.760 You either want to expand on or wasn't in the presentation 43:46.800 --> 43:50.000 I try to keep you guys up to date throughout the year. I mean work 43:50.640 --> 43:55.200 It sounds and I've said it before but we're getting busier, but we're getting complexity busier 43:55.760 --> 43:57.600 Um, I think 43:57.600 --> 44:02.400 And I don't know I didn't see the numbers. I didn't look at that email yet further just came out from july's numbers 44:02.400 --> 44:05.920 But we're we've been averaging 1,100 1200 calls for service per month 44:06.560 --> 44:10.720 Um and now being short too. That's going to really strain in text and staff a little bit 44:11.360 --> 44:12.640 Um 44:12.640 --> 44:18.960 But the complexity is getting up so the way we have the department designed and that gets back to the personnel side of it 44:19.920 --> 44:28.480 Is the appropriate design having the sergeants that are there to keep again our under eight-year staff learning growing and hopefully retaining 44:29.040 --> 44:33.760 Is worked really well and having them integrated especially on the weekends is important 44:34.320 --> 44:35.440 Um 44:35.440 --> 44:39.680 As far as you know the equipment that we have again, we we've stuck to really the needs 44:40.000 --> 44:40.880 Um 44:40.880 --> 44:44.320 Everybody will pull out some want that they have but it's just not sustainable 44:44.800 --> 44:48.640 So the equipment that we have is really the nuts and bolts of what we absolutely need 44:49.200 --> 44:52.240 Um to me the other thing is it gets to be important 44:53.040 --> 44:58.080 About having a good equipment replacement plan in place for not just for the pd 44:58.480 --> 45:03.440 But I think for the entire village because we start to look at you know, how do we cut off the ebb and flow? 45:03.440 --> 45:05.920 I think we've talked about in our department had meetings quite a bit 45:06.480 --> 45:12.000 To keep the spikes in the equipment, um, you know some of our stuff like our video camera system 45:13.200 --> 45:18.160 Honestly, it's better for us not to try to do one a year as as technology changes 45:18.160 --> 45:22.400 For example, it'd be a bc2 as a body camera is about two and a half inches wide 45:23.360 --> 45:28.400 The new ones that they don't that they now or we want to move to are about three to four inches wide 45:28.800 --> 45:31.200 Well, there's a dock in the squad so it can't 45:32.000 --> 45:36.400 Slowly, you know add new ones because they won't work together 45:36.960 --> 45:39.920 The whole point of that program is to seamlessly integrate 45:40.720 --> 45:43.760 Um, so that's the reason that we're trying to do it all at one time 45:43.840 --> 45:48.320 But you know being able to replace our laptops and other items on a schedule 45:48.720 --> 45:50.800 We'll work out well for us in the long run 45:50.800 --> 45:55.040 We've done it captain like I said in sergeant pain have done a really good job with our vehicles 45:55.600 --> 45:57.920 Being able to capitalize on the return on the investment 45:58.400 --> 46:03.760 But then also being able to keep them, you know in a good place where a lot of the work is covered under warranty 46:04.080 --> 46:06.000 which controls our 46:06.000 --> 46:11.920 Vehicle maintenance costs. So a lot of the plans we've put in place have been really working well 46:12.400 --> 46:15.280 Um, so we can kind of control costs and overruns 46:16.480 --> 46:18.480 Good points. Thank you 46:20.720 --> 46:22.720 Anyone else 46:25.680 --> 46:27.680 Thank you 46:28.720 --> 46:34.800 We will now move on to department updates administration update bill chain 46:37.520 --> 46:39.520 Uh one update of 46:40.640 --> 46:45.760 On august 18th, we are preparing to have um a community roundtable 46:46.800 --> 46:50.000 Um, this will be scheduled during the regular 46:50.800 --> 46:53.440 Work session. So if you remember a couple meetings ago 46:54.080 --> 46:57.520 We had talked about holding around table to check in on 46:58.320 --> 47:02.800 Where the relationship is and and have dialogue and constructive feedback 47:03.360 --> 47:07.840 on strengthening the relationship between the community and the the government 47:08.800 --> 47:10.800 organization and 47:11.120 --> 47:14.880 Uh, it was um at that time suggested that we should hold it 47:15.440 --> 47:21.760 Uh during the time of a work session rather than having it separate separate from from village board meeting 47:22.560 --> 47:28.880 So we will prepare for that. Um, if there are any particular subjects that you've heard from 47:29.440 --> 47:32.160 constituents, um or topics related to 47:32.880 --> 47:37.280 Safeening relationships, uh, please be prepared to be prepared to discuss that 47:37.840 --> 47:44.320 You're working with stacey, uh getting some marketing material out there and communication to the community so that 47:44.880 --> 47:47.040 Um, we can have a healthy dialogue 47:47.440 --> 47:49.360 Thank 47:49.360 --> 47:50.400 Thank you bill 47:50.400 --> 47:54.880 Finance update brandon. Yeah, just a few updates here. So last week, wednesday 47:54.880 --> 48:00.720 We held our first budget listening session. Um happy to report that there were some constituents that did come for it 48:00.800 --> 48:07.200 So happy to present to at least a few different people about our current progress and our process regarding our budget 48:07.840 --> 48:09.840 Uh 2027 budget 48:10.240 --> 48:14.480 Sessions that were going on. Um, some good question and answers came out of that within there 48:14.960 --> 48:17.520 Um, next just wanted to give a little shout out to 48:17.760 --> 48:22.240 Alex's team, especially rachel and brandy and the front line staff and um the 48:22.800 --> 48:28.480 Finance staff we've been working the past month or so of creating a new special assessment search process 48:28.560 --> 48:32.240 Um regarding for like title searches and special assessment process 48:32.800 --> 48:38.240 Specifically with title companies that we had up quite a manual process beforehand 48:38.320 --> 48:43.920 So, um, we were the team was able to create kind of a new web page for that and a new streamline process 48:43.920 --> 48:48.400 That's going to cut out a lot of manual hours and processes in there within there 48:48.400 --> 48:53.440 We're going to get it launched here. Um, hopefully in the next month or so and get it out to um title companies 48:53.840 --> 48:56.080 So that they can go through that 48:56.080 --> 48:59.360 And then I will remind you again at the next meeting 48:59.440 --> 49:04.720 But our next step after today's budget processes is going to be one-on-one meetings with um 49:05.200 --> 49:12.400 Each of the trustees um and village administration and finance director just to talk about strategic goals budget priorities 49:13.120 --> 49:19.920 And items like that for the 2027 budget, um, we're looking to get that set up between august 18th through the 28th 49:19.920 --> 49:26.080 So we've each kind of wanted to start thinking about your availability throughout that time and um, we'll talk about it again soon 49:29.200 --> 49:35.520 Thank you brandon and just in case anybody gets any inflated notions of the crowd at the public budget hearing it was three 49:38.320 --> 49:40.320 Uh, police department update 49:42.400 --> 49:44.400 Oh, Jim. I'm sorry. Go ahead 49:44.880 --> 49:49.280 Sorry, Brandon. Did you say it to the 20th or did you say it to the 28th? 49:49.280 --> 49:50.720 Uh 28th 49:50.720 --> 49:56.080 Okay, 18th through the 28th. That's like our time frame. We're looking at giving one-on-one. So be each of you 49:56.480 --> 49:58.480 Yeah, thank you. Of course 50:03.200 --> 50:05.200 Yeah 50:05.200 --> 50:08.160 Sorry, we were looking at the yeah, we got enough. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that 50:08.160 --> 50:13.840 So uh two things. I'll let Chris cover one but uh first one is just if you can put it on your calendars or mark it 50:13.840 --> 50:16.080 I'll ask cal you to a quorum notice 50:16.080 --> 50:20.800 September 10th is thursday is our national line out, um here at fireman's park. So 50:21.520 --> 50:27.280 Uh, we generally draw pretty well. We do it later than everybody purposely uh so that we can get more people to attend 50:27.840 --> 50:29.280 um 50:29.280 --> 50:35.360 So we look forward to hosting that event on that night. Hopefully continue good weather and so that nature so 50:36.160 --> 50:38.160 It's thursday september 10th 50:39.520 --> 50:41.840 Five to seven in fireman's park 50:46.080 --> 50:52.960 Uh secondarily we talked about um officer cast this whole leaving and then officer thumbers potentially so we are hiring so if you 50:53.680 --> 50:56.640 Know any good candidates people interested in point them our direction 50:57.120 --> 51:02.720 Um, I think the secondary part of so kind of let you know is like when we talk about staffing and being fully staffed 51:02.800 --> 51:05.760 We've been like lucky enough to have had that for a while 51:06.320 --> 51:12.240 Um, which is pretty abnormal if you hear about police staffing and public safety staffing. It's not 51:12.800 --> 51:20.080 Usually full staffed. Um, I think it's important to recognize that like when we lose a person and have to replace them 51:20.800 --> 51:25.360 It is a long process or hiring here and then if we have to send some through the academy 51:26.080 --> 51:32.000 And field train then this person that we would hire probably will not be out on the robot themselves until like next fall 51:32.160 --> 51:36.880 So us being one person down is us being one person down for an entire year 51:37.120 --> 51:44.720 So, um, just as far as in the future when we talk about staffing needs and things like that. That's kind of some things to consider 51:46.640 --> 51:48.640 Thank you gentlemen 51:49.440 --> 51:52.080 Public services chug. Yep. I got a 51:52.640 --> 51:54.080 Number of things to cover 51:54.080 --> 51:57.920 Um, we'll start with a stream bank project phase one and phase two has been completed 51:58.400 --> 52:00.640 If you've not had a chance to go walk the trail 52:01.200 --> 52:04.960 We started at south street and worked our way down to innovation drive 52:05.040 --> 52:08.400 So there's a variety of areas there that had improvements done 52:09.040 --> 52:11.840 Which will help the water quality the full of the river 52:12.640 --> 52:14.160 And should we have 52:14.160 --> 52:16.800 Incidents where there's high water. It won't erode 52:17.840 --> 52:24.960 The banks like it has in the past. It will actually have created some more additional space and more storage capacity and in some instances 52:25.840 --> 52:27.200 Um 52:27.200 --> 52:29.200 It's not in our jurisdiction, but it is 52:29.520 --> 52:34.800 Will be our jurisdiction and some point the bridge that's over dental road and down by the tesnic 52:35.600 --> 52:37.920 Motors there or does it sound for tesnic? It's so 52:38.400 --> 52:43.680 It's a you know, uh behind the travel america that bridge is being replaced. Um, there's a grant that 52:44.480 --> 52:45.920 Burke got to do that 52:45.920 --> 52:51.760 Work to that bridge is in the process of being replaced and that work is uh, transpiring on schedule 52:52.560 --> 52:57.200 There is a water main extension on dental road that leads to highway cv. So there's a new building there 52:57.200 --> 52:59.360 That's been going up. That's the pguv 53:00.000 --> 53:03.680 Uh, there's board approved that development agreement a couple meetings back 53:04.240 --> 53:07.440 Um, they have begun that work extending that water main to cv 53:08.560 --> 53:09.760 acre parkway 53:09.760 --> 53:15.840 Uh, the reconstruction project there is continuing to transverse or transpire on what the right word would be 53:15.920 --> 53:20.240 It's it's moving along. Um, and um, should be done in the 53:21.200 --> 53:23.200 month fish or so 53:24.080 --> 53:26.080 Um with that 53:26.080 --> 53:29.520 Uh, our staff has been working very well. Um, if you've gone down 53:29.840 --> 53:34.480 Um, there's a new trail that we're putting in by a hooper. Um kind of on the retaining 53:35.040 --> 53:37.440 Uh, the the retainage pond there. There's a 53:37.920 --> 53:39.600 um wetland 53:39.600 --> 53:44.480 Forest area there. Uh, we have a trail that's going in around that that our our staff has been putting in 53:44.960 --> 53:50.320 Hopefully, we've not been going down there because Williamsburg way and Peterson crossing is closed hard closed 53:50.800 --> 53:52.800 That roundabout project began 53:53.040 --> 54:00.320 Um on the 29th. They started that process. So the road is tore open as everyone in that roundabout section there 54:01.440 --> 54:02.400 with that 54:02.400 --> 54:06.560 Um, the trail segment there that runs along Williamsburg and peterson 54:07.040 --> 54:08.880 um is 54:08.880 --> 54:10.880 Going to be closed so greg and i 54:10.960 --> 54:16.320 Uh reached out to hooper and they gave us a the ability to put an overland trail through their their 54:17.200 --> 54:22.560 Open area there. Um, so we grow some stakes this afternoon and we'll put snow fence up 54:22.560 --> 54:27.120 So we did hear from residents down in the southern part south of 19 saying hey 54:27.120 --> 54:32.320 This is our access to get up to our parks and for our kids to get up and visit their friends further north 54:32.880 --> 54:35.680 um, we really like a safe route for them to go so um 54:36.720 --> 54:38.720 We're thankful the hooper for allowing us to do that 54:38.960 --> 54:40.960 Um 54:41.440 --> 54:43.440 So again that project the Williamsburg 54:44.560 --> 54:50.320 Peterson roundabout should be about two two and a half months till it's completed and and that road will be back open 54:52.240 --> 54:58.800 Um, the new garbage rfp is out. Um, so we've had interest from a handful of uh 54:59.600 --> 55:01.600 waste haulers to be 55:02.000 --> 55:04.000 Looking to apply so those 55:04.560 --> 55:07.200 Responses are due at the end of the month will have a question 55:07.520 --> 55:12.480 Period by august 21st will respond to all questions and then they've got a week after that to get us their 55:13.120 --> 55:15.120 the results back and then we'll 55:15.120 --> 55:18.640 Uh, we bring that back before the board at some point. There was an option in there 55:19.360 --> 55:22.160 Um to have weekly recycling pickup 55:22.560 --> 55:27.200 Um, so we'll know what that cost is and you as a board can decide if it's um 55:27.840 --> 55:29.840 With while moving forward with that 55:30.800 --> 55:36.960 Two of the things jackson our new hire started so we're active being fully staffed as a team jackson's been on for two days 55:37.200 --> 55:41.680 And so far he's fit in very nicely with the guys and I think he's gonna be a good fit 55:42.480 --> 55:46.320 And uh, finally you may have noticed sometimes on our our our trucks we have 55:46.640 --> 55:52.240 Uh flag on there. That's his first responders and often i've been asked before like you guys are first responders. Ha ha 55:52.800 --> 55:54.800 We are kind of first responders 55:55.440 --> 55:57.680 Um, um, and an example of that was yesterday 55:58.080 --> 56:01.840 Trent day one of our, uh, water guys, uh was out 56:02.160 --> 56:06.960 Um getting rock for the trail and as he came back a FedEx vehicle was on fire 56:07.200 --> 56:11.760 So he pulled over blocked the road off and he was his fire extinguisher to try to extinguish the fire 56:12.320 --> 56:15.600 Fortunately, it was going to be too big for the one fire extinguisher to handle 56:15.600 --> 56:21.600 But he did block the road off until the fire department could come and and take care of that problem. So, um 56:22.240 --> 56:27.360 I'm proud of him. He's you know and our guys often encounter these kinds of things or situations where kade 56:27.680 --> 56:32.400 Out on a bike and our guys are first ones there because they happen to be near so, um, just to highlight 56:32.400 --> 56:33.760 They do good things 56:33.760 --> 56:38.320 Furthermore, Trent has spent last week anyone up to menasha and helps with cleanup at the 56:39.760 --> 56:42.720 Whatever they had tornado those bad storms that rolled through there. So 56:43.360 --> 56:45.600 Kudos if you see Trent make sure you thank him for that 56:45.680 --> 56:48.800 But uh, just to highlight some of the good things our guys do as well. So 56:49.840 --> 56:51.840 That's crazy 56:52.160 --> 56:56.240 Next up is community development or to Alex. Oh, I'm sorry 56:57.200 --> 57:02.560 Two quick questions. Uh two things I keep hearing a lot about and i'm not sure one of them we have anything to do with but it's the 57:03.440 --> 57:05.440 Uh 57:05.920 --> 57:07.120 Main road 57:07.120 --> 57:09.120 Um cv 57:09.680 --> 57:10.880 Yeah, sorry 57:10.880 --> 57:14.320 Uh, is that a dane county projects that is a dane county project 57:15.600 --> 57:21.120 We're hearing paving will happen this week this week great. Uh, and the second one is a conservancy splash pad 57:21.680 --> 57:22.880 I've been getting 57:22.960 --> 57:24.400 Many notes that it's been 57:24.400 --> 57:29.040 Nobody's been working on it for a couple of weeks. I don't know what the progress is there if people are 57:29.920 --> 57:35.200 Doing like the water main hookups or whatever's going on there. Yeah, they're connecting the meter 57:35.840 --> 57:39.040 Um and connecting all the water spray heads 57:39.520 --> 57:42.160 Um this week next monday 57:42.160 --> 57:47.120 We're going to have a walkthrough of the splash pad and then they'll do all the grading and 57:47.600 --> 57:49.600 Seeding of the area 57:49.920 --> 57:56.000 Most likely I don't know if we'll open it up this here just because we're gonna try to grill grass there before 57:56.640 --> 58:01.440 Um rivers fast. Um, but we'll see see a lot of how to get 58:04.240 --> 58:05.280 Alex 58:05.280 --> 58:11.360 Just really quickly. So the village uses a general engineering company for its building inspection services over the last 58:12.000 --> 58:16.960 Twoish months we've been working through a transition of our lead building inspector who's been kelly green for 58:18.080 --> 58:20.000 Probably 20 something years 58:20.000 --> 58:23.280 Um as he transitions as work away from the community 58:23.520 --> 58:29.200 We were bringing on a new inspector's names erin and uh, they'll be some other inspectors that are sort of supplementing him 58:29.760 --> 58:33.600 Um, I would just say if you get any issues or hearing complaints during this 58:34.160 --> 58:37.280 Call of the next month or so we're kind of working through that transition 58:37.280 --> 58:41.040 So please pass those along to me, but you can also certainly communicate that it is a 58:41.680 --> 58:43.840 Transition period and there will be some bombs 58:45.120 --> 58:46.560 Thank you 58:46.560 --> 58:48.560 administrative services kelly 58:49.840 --> 58:51.840 Nothing 58:51.840 --> 58:52.800 Communications 58:52.800 --> 58:54.800 Stacy nothing 58:54.800 --> 58:59.840 Any other business that lawfully comes before the committee for discussion. Oh, can I give can I give my update? 59:00.640 --> 59:02.640 All right, mrs. Oh, I'm sorry 59:02.640 --> 59:03.920 All right 59:03.920 --> 59:06.240 Creation and community in our treatment. Go ahead grace 59:06.560 --> 59:14.960 Uh, so this week is national farmers market week. Um, so uh kelly our new market manager has some tattoos and are doing some different activities 59:15.520 --> 59:17.920 Um, I believe we have 38 vendors for today 59:18.720 --> 59:22.320 Um, we have a night market is next thursday 59:23.280 --> 59:28.880 August 13th, um, we will have that booth to give information about the mountain bike trails 59:29.440 --> 59:31.440 Um to get feedback 59:31.520 --> 59:36.640 Um, we have flag football that's starting in the next few weeks and then we're doing our final edits for the fall winter guide 59:37.200 --> 59:40.720 Um, just as a reminder that's published next friday and registration will open 59:41.120 --> 59:48.240 Um, the following monday and the 17th at 11 a.m. Um, we were able to add cornerstone. Um, they added a information page 59:48.960 --> 59:50.960 into this guide so 59:50.960 --> 59:55.600 Um, you know, we continue to kind of look at it being more of a community guide trying to make sure that we're getting 59:55.920 --> 59:57.920 Um, as much information out as we can 59:58.400 --> 59:59.760 Um, and that that's it 01:00:00.640 --> 01:00:03.280 I'm sorry. I didn't intentionally leave you out 01:00:04.240 --> 01:00:07.680 Any other business that lawfully comes before the committee for discussion only 01:00:09.120 --> 01:00:11.040 Being numb is their emotion to adjourn 01:00:12.480 --> 01:00:15.920 Motion to adjourn motion by jan is there a second 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:20.320 Second by jim 01:00:20.320 --> 01:00:23.600 All those in favor to adjourn indicate by saying aye aye 01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.160 All those opposed no 01:00:26.160 --> 01:00:33.280 Motion carries unanimously. We are adjourned at 6 0 3 and let's reconvene about 6 0 8 01:00:51.200 --> 01:00:56.000 All right, let's um help order the village board meeting for august 4 01:00:57.040 --> 01:00:59.040 Kelly, would you please note the role 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:04.160 Uh, respiration of the pledge of allegiance jan would you lead us please 01:01:04.160 --> 01:01:06.160 Okay 01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:30.160 Announcements, I will turn that over to a melody who hasn't announced but yeah, well. Hi everybody 01:01:30.160 --> 01:01:36.080 I just wanted to take a minute. Um, if you've seen me in person, you probably know this if you haven't in a while 01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:40.800 Um, I'm pregnant and I'm gonna have a baby in a couple weeks. So I just wanted to update 01:01:41.360 --> 01:01:48.320 uh the board and staff and community members that um, I'm gonna give birth in like two weeks. So 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:53.760 um, I will be out for the next couple meetings and uh, that's why so 01:01:54.240 --> 01:01:58.480 Um, just wanted to let everyone know and please continue reaching out 01:01:58.560 --> 01:02:02.960 And I'm not gonna fall off the face of the earth, but give me a little grace with my response time 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:08.720 Um, and um, I'll make sure our community members are aware when they reach out that I'm out for a little bit 01:02:09.200 --> 01:02:13.840 Um, and yeah, just wanted to say thank you and let everyone know and thanks calling for the space 01:02:16.240 --> 01:02:18.240 Good luck 01:02:18.640 --> 01:02:20.160 Thank you 01:02:20.160 --> 01:02:23.360 And son to gender does anyone wish to have anything separated out 01:02:24.160 --> 01:02:25.680 No 01:02:25.680 --> 01:02:31.280 Okay, all those in favor of uh pool of the consent agenda indicate by saying aye motion to approve 01:02:31.360 --> 01:02:33.360 I'm sorry. I forgot that part 01:02:34.080 --> 01:02:35.200 Second 01:02:35.200 --> 01:02:38.960 Motion to approve the consent agenda by brad seconded by jan 01:02:39.520 --> 01:02:41.520 All those in favor indicate by saying aye 01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:44.000 All those opposed no 01:02:44.000 --> 01:02:46.000 Motion carries unanimously 01:02:46.320 --> 01:02:48.320 uh general public appearances 01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:51.280 And we have none 01:02:51.600 --> 01:02:52.960 Presentations 01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:58.800 Presentation of check from fourth of july's celebration beer tent sales to the deforest lines club 01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:06.800 Peace. Yeah, I'll just quick. Um, we have a number of lines club members who are here with us tonight that will be doing the check presentation 01:03:08.640 --> 01:03:14.080 Myself as a staff and I know trisha and others who work the fourth we can't say enough good things about working with 01:03:14.640 --> 01:03:18.720 The lines they have been great. They're a great addition or they've still been a part of the fourth of july 01:03:18.720 --> 01:03:23.680 But this new role has been super helpful. I know I worked with a number of them over the fourth 01:03:23.680 --> 01:03:28.320 So, uh, just really want to thank them. We'll be looking to continue this going forward 01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:34.080 Uh, this year their um profit share was uh, 7777 dollars 01:03:34.640 --> 01:03:36.640 Which is 30 percent? 01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:42.640 And yeah, all that money comes back into the community and and other things so they really are a great partner and 01:03:43.120 --> 01:03:47.280 um, we'll look to get a photo and um, um, keep working with them so 01:03:49.120 --> 01:03:54.880 Well, thank you for your work lines club and congratulations on seven thousand some dollars. That's nice 01:03:55.920 --> 01:03:58.640 And uh res tells me she wants a photograph 01:03:58.720 --> 01:04:05.280 So we will all now move in front of the dais for a photo with the lines club and the check presentation 01:04:12.640 --> 01:04:14.640 So 01:04:42.640 --> 01:04:44.640 So 01:05:12.640 --> 01:05:14.640 So 01:05:42.640 --> 01:06:05.920 All right, next up for presentations is uh, gavin denning presenting on the management internship year in review 01:06:06.560 --> 01:06:08.560 That's me 01:06:08.560 --> 01:06:14.560 Yeah, hi, uh, first of all just wanted to uh, come on and say, uh, hi and thank you 01:06:14.560 --> 01:06:18.480 Uh, it has been a pleasure to spend my summer full time 01:06:19.040 --> 01:06:24.320 Uh at village ball out in the community interacting with not only residents staff trustees 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.960 It's been a pleasure and incredibly valuable 01:06:27.360 --> 01:06:31.920 Uh, the great news is it's not over yet. My internship does run through the end of the calendar year 01:06:32.240 --> 01:06:36.080 Uh, but my full-time commitment does end at the end of this week as i'm going on vacation 01:06:36.160 --> 01:06:41.760 And then heading back to campus for uh preseason marching band and all of the craziness that comes with college 01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:47.600 But i'm excited and I will be moving to remote work once i'm back on campus for the rest of the school year 01:06:47.600 --> 01:06:54.560 But um, well, i'm here and in person. I wanted to give uh, a summary of some of the work that i've been doing over the year 01:06:54.560 --> 01:06:57.360 And i'll give you guys an opportunity to ask questions about 01:06:57.840 --> 01:07:02.640 the experience the role, um, to engage your interest on and hopefully continuing to fund the program 01:07:02.640 --> 01:07:06.480 So future students can become invested in local government like I have 01:07:07.520 --> 01:07:12.560 And I do always like describing pictures that I include in presentations and so, uh, this was right after 01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:19.600 We uh, stacy jud greg and I loaded a dead deer out of via har river into the back of a pickup truck 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:27.040 um, and didn't know howl good away and so uh, definitely a memorable experience in my stint with public services and 01:07:27.520 --> 01:07:33.440 Uh, I appreciate that the trust they put in me or maybe deferred to me to help deal with but it was a pleasure 01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.680 Well, there's a video. Yeah, the video is included. So don't worry 01:07:40.240 --> 01:07:43.600 Um, but just a brief agenda. I want to go over a brief history of my 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:46.240 employment experience with the village 01:07:46.240 --> 01:07:51.360 Uh, the goals that uh bill and i set for the internship and some of the deliverables that have come as a result of those goals 01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:55.680 Next steps for me both professionally and personally and then an opportunity for some discussion 01:07:58.320 --> 01:08:01.520 All right, so i'll start with the picture because I think it's kind of funny 01:08:01.760 --> 01:08:07.520 Uh, this is a picture of me on my first day as 14 year old concession employee at the athletic complex 01:08:07.680 --> 01:08:13.360 Uh retro picture. It's got the original ac logo out there. So, uh, you can tell it's old and i've got a different haircut now 01:08:13.760 --> 01:08:18.480 Um, but I have been employed with the village for four years and in that four years i've worked six different positions 01:08:18.640 --> 01:08:24.560 So concession attendant concession lead rec staff referee rec intern and now management intern 01:08:24.960 --> 01:08:30.480 Um, each one has has given me a invaluable experience and i've enjoyed every minute 01:08:30.800 --> 01:08:36.640 Um, I've had one interview from the village and that was when I was 14 and it was over zoom interviewing with recent sam for the position of 01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:40.800 concession attendant. So I like to think that the upward movement has been a result of 01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.280 My interest in the time i've taken to interact with my colleagues 01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:50.640 Uh, and then some of you might not have known this but I actually have gotten three college credits because of the internship that 01:08:50.800 --> 01:08:55.520 She contributed directly to my major through a w madison internship reflection course 01:08:55.680 --> 01:09:02.960 And so every week I take some time to reflect on the work that i'm doing interact with other students who are pursuing internships around the country 01:09:03.040 --> 01:09:09.920 And we trade stories advice things like that and um, as far as college credits go, it was pretty easy 01:09:09.920 --> 01:09:11.840 So i'll take three credits anytime 01:09:12.320 --> 01:09:17.200 Um, and then just that last one. I just an infinite amount of influential career moments. Um, hopefully 01:09:17.760 --> 01:09:20.400 Uh, you've come to pick up on the fact that i'm really passionate about 01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:25.200 Uh local government to forest especially since i've grown up and live here currently 01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:27.680 Um, so it's all been really valuable 01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:33.920 All right, so moving on to some goals and deliverables and for a picture description that was take your brought to work day 01:09:34.160 --> 01:09:38.240 During breakfast. Um, so on a friday morning. We got some brats for the office and it was great 01:09:41.440 --> 01:09:43.440 In the way 01:09:44.240 --> 01:09:46.560 Oh, I just want to teach you any way to do it 01:09:47.200 --> 01:09:49.200 We could go out any day 01:09:49.920 --> 01:09:51.920 Baby, i'll take it there take 01:09:52.640 --> 01:09:54.640 Baby, i'll take it there 01:09:54.880 --> 01:10:00.320 Oh, it's coming through my tummy out and you love all you can get dead anything to come on 01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:03.200 Baby, just shout it out, shout it out 01:10:03.360 --> 01:10:05.360 Baby, just shout it out again 01:10:05.760 --> 01:10:07.760 And if you 01:10:08.400 --> 01:10:10.400 You want me to 01:10:11.200 --> 01:10:13.200 Let's make a move 01:10:13.840 --> 01:10:17.440 Yeah, don't tell me girl if every time we 01:10:19.440 --> 01:10:34.320 Because it's kind of 01:10:34.320 --> 01:10:37.920 Don't just spend my time making videos here. Um, I actually got reached out to by the university 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.400 They wanted to feature my internship. Uh, they found it 01:10:41.360 --> 01:10:46.560 Impressive actually that an undergraduate student was in a government internship through the thought school public affairs 01:10:46.880 --> 01:10:53.520 And so I was featured in an article from the school as well as then they asked for a day in the life video to go on social medias and linked in 01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:57.600 And so it was a great opportunity not only to showcase some of the work i'm doing but 01:10:58.080 --> 01:11:02.560 The commitment you guys as a village are making to invest in internships. So thank you 01:11:02.560 --> 01:11:09.600 All right, and so then this is where I wanted to break into some of the goals that I set when 01:11:10.240 --> 01:11:14.240 I knew I wanted to pursue an internship with the village and those four goals were exposure 01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.680 Project support policy experience and professional development 01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:22.560 And so within each one of these are a set of deliverables that have made those goals possible 01:11:22.560 --> 01:11:28.000 And i'm really proud of some of the work i've been able to complete while i'm here and also realize that like I said i'm not done yet 01:11:28.640 --> 01:11:30.400 So starting off with exposure 01:11:30.400 --> 01:11:32.640 I've been able to spend one to two week 01:11:32.640 --> 01:11:35.520 Intensives in every department in the village starting with 01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:41.920 Recreation back at the start of the summer and then just wrapped up my week with callee in the clerk's office and currently with the police department 01:11:42.480 --> 01:11:49.040 Um, I have made the made it clear to department heads that I didn't never wanted them to say no for me when it came to valuable information 01:11:49.120 --> 01:11:54.240 Meetings, um anything of the sort so my calendar would fill up throughout the week of different meetings 01:11:54.640 --> 01:12:00.880 Across different departments, and I just tended to focus on add a bit extra focus to the whatever department I was in for that stint 01:12:01.440 --> 01:12:04.560 Um development were to review team specifically was a really valuable one 01:12:05.040 --> 01:12:07.600 Experiencing all of the stakeholders and players that go into 01:12:08.160 --> 01:12:11.360 Growing our village and then on day one of my in-person internship 01:12:11.360 --> 01:12:16.400 I attended the deforest Windsor fire station to groundbreaking ceremony. So some great exposure there 01:12:16.880 --> 01:12:22.640 Um, when you think of an internship you generally think right away to what kind of projects are they going to be picking up to keep them busy 01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:24.800 And the great thing is 01:12:25.280 --> 01:12:28.080 Little if none of the work that I've done has felt like busy work 01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:34.800 So far this year and that's really valuable because it all goes back to resume experience things I can take to future employers 01:12:35.680 --> 01:12:38.400 To show that I'm building a lot of great professional experience 01:12:38.400 --> 01:12:43.360 And so some of those tangibles would be the trustee onboarding handbook that university alliance started 01:12:43.360 --> 01:12:48.080 And I was able to bring through the finish line currently working through a wage scale study for our 01:12:49.040 --> 01:12:52.880 Village wide actually employees. We're looking to implement a wage scale and so collecting 01:12:53.280 --> 01:12:59.120 Um wage and salary data from neighboring municipalities and interpolating that data to make a recommendation to you in the future 01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:03.120 Clear gov is our forward facing a public budget book 01:13:03.120 --> 01:13:08.480 And so I'm working with Brandon and carol in the finance department to get that rolling for 26 and 27 budgets 01:13:09.040 --> 01:13:11.360 I was able to work with Tricia on putting the mural together 01:13:11.360 --> 01:13:15.520 Which was a lot of fun with our rec and turn Carly and then some volunteer artists in the community 01:13:16.080 --> 01:13:21.120 Uh, I ran the pickleball tournament again, which is a project that I started last year and then ran again this year 01:13:21.120 --> 01:13:27.840 We had an increase in team participation increase in games played. Um, and we were in the black for the tournament. So that was exciting too 01:13:28.720 --> 01:13:34.320 Uh, some process improvement in the finance department and then calley has a little a flyer that I grabbed off my desk 01:13:34.400 --> 01:13:39.360 but um community development had me work on some home reach branding and so actually 01:13:39.680 --> 01:13:43.280 Al chipped in a bit on a logo kind of the lean chipped a bit on a logo 01:13:43.680 --> 01:13:50.400 Uh, calley helped on developing a logo. So uh adding some brand consistency to an initiative that we want to see growth and applications from 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.920 And so I focused specifically on the aging in place and accessibility arm of that program 01:13:56.240 --> 01:14:00.640 Mainly because it was easy to make a tangible flyer that can be sent to the community center 01:14:01.040 --> 01:14:07.680 Uh because senior citizens and our our elderly residents like having those hard copy pieces of information that they can pick up at the places 01:14:07.680 --> 01:14:14.960 They go and so I identified that as an action item and is able to put together an information flyer that will go out to the community center for for those residents 01:14:16.160 --> 01:14:20.320 And moving into policy experience. Uh, one of them being tonight, uh, have the opportunity to present 01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:28.640 Um, so policy and have that policy discussion with you all. Um, that's really crucial to pursuing a career in village administration local government 01:14:29.040 --> 01:14:33.760 Uh, additionally just general policy review, uh, bill jud and al would take the time to forward me 01:14:34.320 --> 01:14:38.800 Policies intergovernmental agreements rf peas to review see what they look like just get that exposure 01:14:39.360 --> 01:14:46.720 Um, boundary meetings as we as we look to, um, gauge priorities from neighboring municipalities and communities what that looks like and 01:14:47.120 --> 01:14:49.440 And where we see those those conversations heading 01:14:49.920 --> 01:15:00.960 Clean community conversations have been really valuable. Um, just to gauge opinions from, uh, community members and see where people are coming from with their ideas and then finally board meetings just 01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:05.360 Um, getting experienced to understand the process and know what goes into running a local government 01:15:06.320 --> 01:15:09.040 And then professional development was actually a nice surprise 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:16.720 Interns generally don't have very many opportunities to develop professionally. That's generally reserved for for career 01:15:17.600 --> 01:15:20.320 Career members or are hired full-time staff 01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:25.200 I was lucky enough to be able to attend the wisconsin city managers association summer conference as 01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:29.920 The youngest attendee and I take a lot of pride in that. Um, I think that's a strength 01:15:30.560 --> 01:15:35.760 Uh, Lauren freeman is the deputy administrator in one a key and she set up intern cohort meetings 01:15:35.920 --> 01:15:39.600 Which was a collection of some of the madison area management interns 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:48.160 And so we spent four or five fridays through the summer touring other municipalities focusing on local government one-on-one getting opportunities to connect 01:15:48.240 --> 01:15:52.000 Because a lot of us are in a program of one in their municipality 01:15:52.480 --> 01:15:59.680 And then finally having the opportunity to network with recruiters whether it was at, um, on zoom at wcma during cohort meetings 01:16:00.160 --> 01:16:04.880 You know, those are hopefully people that will be able to help me land me a job in the future. So all really valuable 01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:08.640 And then just a couple pictures to go along with that 01:16:09.280 --> 01:16:15.760 Shout out to greg in the public services department for amazing village connections where we learned about the water system and tour to water tower 01:16:16.480 --> 01:16:19.520 Carly Brandon and myself working on tiles for the mural 01:16:19.840 --> 01:16:21.520 That's just me at my desk 01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:25.760 And then these are some of the interns up in lacrosse at our summer conference 01:16:25.920 --> 01:16:29.360 And so great opportunities to network network with students like me 01:16:30.880 --> 01:16:37.840 And then all of this leads into kind of my mission statement with the presentation and the strongest takeaway for my internship is that the village of deforest has 01:16:37.840 --> 01:16:40.800 Ignited my passion for local government leadership. This is a career 01:16:40.800 --> 01:16:43.360 I'm very interested in building and taking further 01:16:43.600 --> 01:16:48.640 I don't think I could have said that a year ago when I agreed to take on this internship probably because I was intimidated and 01:16:48.960 --> 01:16:54.320 Didn't know quite what I was getting into and every opportunity that I've had to learn has has made me more interested in the work 01:16:54.320 --> 01:17:01.840 And then finally for some next steps and then for a photo reference. This was at the groundbreaking for firestation 2 01:17:05.840 --> 01:17:10.240 As many of you know, I'll be concluding the interns this internship at the end of the calendar year 01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:13.840 With a couple more in-person days when I back and winter break 01:17:14.800 --> 01:17:18.640 Hope planning to graduate with my dual major in marketing and public policy in may of 01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:22.800 2029 and then actively looking for new internship opportunities 01:17:23.760 --> 01:17:25.760 Pretty open. I 01:17:25.760 --> 01:17:30.400 It's and there's a lot of value diversifying my experience. So we'll see where that takes me, but 01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:37.840 It all goes back to thanking you all for your time and your trust and your approval of a budget that was able to fund an internship as 01:17:38.400 --> 01:17:43.040 Influential and experiential as this was and so I thank you for that and want to see if you have any questions 01:17:46.640 --> 01:17:48.160 Jan 01:17:48.240 --> 01:17:56.240 First I want to say with your enthusiasm and your energy and all of that. I think you're going to go far, Gavin 01:17:56.400 --> 01:17:58.240 Thank you. I appreciate it. You're doing a great job 01:17:58.640 --> 01:18:02.160 Um, but what I wanted to know do you have to know on these home reach 01:18:02.720 --> 01:18:06.480 Flyers, do they have these at the community center? I still have to drive them out there 01:18:07.200 --> 01:18:10.080 I mean, that's on my that's on my action list. That's they're on their way out there 01:18:10.480 --> 01:18:15.200 Oh, okay, because I was going to I'm going tomorrow and I was saying I could use some of these to take along. Oh, perfect 01:18:15.200 --> 01:18:18.480 Actually, I could give you a stack after the ring. Thank you very helpful 01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:21.440 A little off-subject, but thank you. No, that's great. I appreciate it 01:18:23.120 --> 01:18:27.840 Gavin, you have just been a real joy to have around you're easy and fun to pick on 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:30.480 Uh, you work hard 01:18:30.480 --> 01:18:33.040 You've done some really good stuff. I think uh, it's 01:18:34.480 --> 01:18:38.880 Been a pleasure and I for one will miss your smile and exuberant face 01:18:39.680 --> 01:18:41.520 Thank you. I appreciate that 01:18:41.520 --> 01:18:43.520 Anybody else 01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:46.080 Alicia 01:18:46.080 --> 01:18:49.520 Awesome. I think I echo everybody else's sentiments Gavin. So 01:18:50.400 --> 01:18:53.280 Thank you and I wanted a couple questions. So 01:18:54.000 --> 01:19:00.160 Um, I know you're going to finish out remotely, but what is um, like something you're going to miss about working 01:19:00.720 --> 01:19:05.760 Uh in person in the village and then to what has been like the most surprising 01:19:06.480 --> 01:19:10.240 Thing, um to you from your time working in the village 01:19:11.120 --> 01:19:14.400 Yeah, those are two great questions. Um both easy to answer 01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:19.840 Um, number one that i'm going to miss is uh being able to be a fly on the wall so consistently 01:19:20.240 --> 01:19:24.560 Whether it's in meetings, um, just generally picking up on office dynamics and how 01:19:25.120 --> 01:19:29.120 How a group of professionals who are so passionate about serving their community work together 01:19:29.200 --> 01:19:34.960 That's a really valuable experience just being in the office and then also being able to sit in on those meetings pick up on dynamics 01:19:35.040 --> 01:19:42.320 Between whether it's working with developers meeting with land owners community members, um trustees all those things 01:19:42.320 --> 01:19:48.160 There's a lot of cool dynamics and relationships that go into running a local government that i'll miss some of those things 01:19:48.160 --> 01:19:50.800 But I think i've built a really strong foundation 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:57.840 And then the biggest surprise and um, I'll say this is as politically as possible 01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:01.760 But the we get a lot of feedback from non-residents 01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:06.240 Was probably my biggest surprise and the engagement that we have from people who might not have 01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:13.120 A deforest address or be a deforest taxpayer. Um, I think there's i've learned a lot of the ways in which that can 01:20:13.760 --> 01:20:16.240 impact our decisions and um 01:20:16.800 --> 01:20:20.480 All for all for the better as far as uh me learning what those relationships are like 01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:23.200 And so it's been really valuable to to pick up on 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:27.440 Some of those things and also understand how that affects your decision making as a board 01:20:27.440 --> 01:20:30.640 Jim 01:20:32.720 --> 01:20:34.720 Yes, I want to thank you 01:20:34.720 --> 01:20:37.920 So a little bit of my background as I work for the dot 01:20:38.480 --> 01:20:42.880 And somehow I got into the role besides my regular job 01:20:42.960 --> 01:20:47.760 I also work with a lot of interns and help play some at the dot. So 01:20:48.400 --> 01:20:50.400 Good to know maybe talk to you later 01:20:51.680 --> 01:20:52.880 Good thing. I have your 01:20:53.440 --> 01:20:59.840 Why I say that I think it's a very important thing to put effort into the internships 01:21:00.160 --> 01:21:05.760 I am a static that you are such a good example of that. So I'm looking at all the department heads and I hope we 01:21:06.640 --> 01:21:10.240 Get more interns because I think it's a great effort 01:21:11.360 --> 01:21:15.360 Opportunity is safe for yourself too. And again, they've been a great example 01:21:15.360 --> 01:21:20.000 So hopefully that inspires other people and maybe we get more interns and it 01:21:20.480 --> 01:21:25.840 Really creates a whole lot of the doozy enthusiasm not only safer than trends themselves 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:28.240 But I think even the staff that get to work with them 01:21:28.640 --> 01:21:30.960 Never mind you or at least myself 01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:38.960 Like why you actually came into the job in the first place. So I thank you for leading that off for all of us 01:21:39.760 --> 01:21:41.040 following through 01:21:41.040 --> 01:21:43.040 Yeah, it's been my pleasure. Thank you 01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.560 Anyone else 01:21:47.200 --> 01:21:49.200 Just have to hammer the point home 01:21:49.440 --> 01:21:51.440 Gavin you're very impressive and 01:21:52.320 --> 01:21:54.160 I'm going to miss I know you're not leaving us yet 01:21:54.160 --> 01:22:00.960 But I am going to miss seeing you around and just want to emphasize like others have your passion and your positivity is really 01:22:01.440 --> 01:22:02.880 um 01:22:02.880 --> 01:22:05.040 special to see and unique and 01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:10.320 The world needs more of that. So I wish you the best in in your future and you're going to go really far 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:12.640 I really really appreciate that. Thank you 01:22:13.600 --> 01:22:16.480 I'm afraid that's the end of the affection 01:22:17.600 --> 01:22:20.800 Been waiting all summer now. Yeah, thanks a lot. I appreciate it 01:22:24.720 --> 01:22:26.720 Next up 01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:33.040 presentation of the initial 2027 department budget updates regarding the community development department and Alex 01:22:33.040 --> 01:22:35.040 I 01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:38.560 Know 01:22:42.240 --> 01:22:44.240 Got the keyboard 01:22:52.000 --> 01:22:55.280 I just want to stress that this is a preliminary budget because I will be adding a 01:22:55.600 --> 01:22:59.040 management intern or just an intern in general after hearing Jim's comments later 01:23:03.040 --> 01:23:05.040 You 01:23:18.960 --> 01:23:20.960 Okay 01:23:21.760 --> 01:23:29.120 So just to walk through again a preliminary budget for the community development department I give a little bit of an overview here of the department itself 01:23:30.000 --> 01:23:34.320 We are a smaller team. It consists of myself as community development director 01:23:34.480 --> 01:23:38.160 Our zoning administrator, Brandy Cooper and then our admin assistant Rachel Covey 01:23:39.600 --> 01:23:41.600 We cover a couple different 01:23:42.320 --> 01:23:43.840 facets, I guess 01:23:43.840 --> 01:23:45.840 permitting and development 01:23:45.840 --> 01:23:51.120 That includes everything I referred to earlier we on tried for building inspection services our team 01:23:51.760 --> 01:23:58.240 Coordinates pretty heavily with their building inspector and their admin side of things to get intake on permits 01:23:58.800 --> 01:24:01.360 Process inspections fees those types of things 01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:08.800 We also have development intake process through our online application and review of those developments 01:24:08.800 --> 01:24:12.160 So when somebody's coming in to build a project they have to go through our system 01:24:12.800 --> 01:24:14.800 And then we also contract out 01:24:15.360 --> 01:24:21.200 As of this year. This was the first year we contracted out for code enforcement services previously. We had had that in house 01:24:23.280 --> 01:24:24.960 Long-range planning 01:24:24.960 --> 01:24:33.120 This covers more of the comprehensive plan housing studies infrastructure plans anything that is sort of a guiding document for the village 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:35.600 With a longer tenure 01:24:36.160 --> 01:24:38.640 And then on the economic development side of things 01:24:39.360 --> 01:24:43.920 Assisting with site selection for developers or businesses looking to locate within the community 01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:49.600 Connecting with our local large and small employers to understand their needs 01:24:50.320 --> 01:24:52.320 Both in terms of growth within the village 01:24:53.200 --> 01:24:55.600 And any other pain points they may have and then 01:24:56.320 --> 01:24:58.800 We have a limited role in small business support 01:24:59.280 --> 01:25:03.840 But hopefully that is transitioning a little bit more to the chamber, which we'll kind of touch on here in a little bit 01:25:05.440 --> 01:25:08.560 And feel free to stop me at any point and ask questions 01:25:09.120 --> 01:25:12.720 A little bit of historicals on the budget. I'll zoom out here 01:25:12.880 --> 01:25:14.880 Try to pull a picture 01:25:15.840 --> 01:25:20.400 So on the left you'll see the last three years including this year of historical budgets 01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:24.880 Generally speaking, we kind of break into five different categories 01:25:25.440 --> 01:25:29.120 The largest of which on the left-hand side you'll see is our building inspection 01:25:29.680 --> 01:25:34.320 So just one point to note about this because we do contract out for services 01:25:34.640 --> 01:25:39.760 We also have revenue that comes to offset those building inspection costs so everything that 01:25:40.560 --> 01:25:44.800 All the costs that we're incurring for general engineering to go out and do these building inspections 01:25:45.120 --> 01:25:50.880 We're also recovering those costs through inspection fees to the private side of things as they make those requests 01:25:51.440 --> 01:25:54.560 Planning services this entails we currently utilize 01:25:55.280 --> 01:26:00.720 Third-party planning consultant mark roffers. He's been with the village for again 20 something years 01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:06.560 Has done everything from long-range plans comprehensive plans housing studies to 01:26:07.200 --> 01:26:11.920 Are basically every development review that we have come in. He's the lead on those reviews 01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:16.320 So planning services are costs associated with his services 01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:22.640 Professional services this includes legal review. It now includes third-party code enforcement. It also 01:26:23.440 --> 01:26:29.760 Includes our use of veer bicker for civil engineering and their cost for development review as well 01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:32.880 Special projects these are things like 01:26:33.280 --> 01:26:39.680 The housing affordability and fee study reports that we do some of that statutorily required for us to have that 01:26:40.320 --> 01:26:45.840 And then on the admin side of things that stuff like the project management software that we use trading 01:26:46.400 --> 01:26:49.840 Conferences and then annual subscriptions and dues as well 01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:57.680 So looking at 2027 on the right-hand side again preliminary because we're adding the management piece just or the intern piece just to be clear 01:26:58.480 --> 01:27:06.400 Building inspection looking at our historical numbers and where we're at in terms of future development. We're projecting that to be a little bit lower 01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:11.280 Planning services. I've actually added a little bit of cost there 01:27:12.000 --> 01:27:17.200 Percentage-wise it's roughly a 38 percent increase which is sizable nominally or dollar amount 01:27:17.440 --> 01:27:23.200 It's not necessarily on our overall budget as impactful, but I'll talk in a few minutes here about why 01:27:23.760 --> 01:27:29.360 Or adding that you can see in parentheses additional staff coordination. It's tied to another request later 01:27:30.320 --> 01:27:37.200 Professional services. There's an increase that's built into our code enforcement contract. This is generally associated with that 01:27:38.320 --> 01:27:46.160 Special projects. We don't have a ton of special projects on the horizon for 2027 outside of our statutory requirements for housing studies 01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:48.720 And then on the admin side 01:27:49.440 --> 01:27:52.640 I think we've had we haven't had the attendance 01:27:53.360 --> 01:27:57.200 To some of the conferences and training in the over the last couple years. So 01:27:58.160 --> 01:28:00.960 Based on our usage you've kind of dialed that down a little bit as well 01:28:01.440 --> 01:28:05.600 And then you'll see right now we're projecting in that zero increase for the department as a whole 01:28:08.400 --> 01:28:12.560 Um as always try to tie these budget conversations back to our strategic plan 01:28:12.800 --> 01:28:16.720 So I pulled a couple from the strategic plan to kind of orient us here 01:28:17.120 --> 01:28:21.440 The first being efficient staffing and the language below is pulled directly from the strategic plan 01:28:21.520 --> 01:28:27.360 So evaluate growth of positions in correspondence with facility growth population growth and valuation growth 01:28:28.160 --> 01:28:35.520 Number two is partnership explore ways to partner with entities like the deforest Windsor chamber to support local business development in the community 01:28:36.240 --> 01:28:42.320 And then number three is smart growth create a map to share with elected officials and planning and zoning committee members 01:28:42.720 --> 01:28:46.880 That illustrates the functional boundaries of future growth. We'll touch on each of those here 01:28:49.600 --> 01:28:51.920 So uh new for 2027 01:28:52.960 --> 01:28:57.360 I am requesting additional staff, which would be a junior planner 01:28:58.240 --> 01:29:04.320 And uh when I mentioned an increase in our consulting services that would be my goal would be to 01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:10.960 Uh have some additional touch points between our existing consulting planner and this new staff member to sort of build there 01:29:11.680 --> 01:29:15.200 Well to be perfectly frank to do a little bit of institutional knowledge transfer 01:29:15.200 --> 01:29:20.240 Our consulting planner has been with the village for a long long time and has communicated to me that they're 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:24.960 sort of eyeing the um retirement the big r word in the near future 01:29:25.440 --> 01:29:31.600 So uh trying to get a jump on that and having more connection between uh future staff here and then our 01:29:32.320 --> 01:29:36.400 Historical planner to kind of plan for that transition. I think it's going to be extremely important 01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:39.440 Especially given how much we've been growing over the past couple of years 01:29:39.920 --> 01:29:43.600 Um, it also helps us build in house capacity as I mentioned. We're a smaller staff 01:29:44.080 --> 01:29:48.800 Um, and we are the fastest one of the fastest growing communities in the state 01:29:49.520 --> 01:29:53.200 We've been fortunate enough to have a consulting planner who has a lot of capacity 01:29:53.200 --> 01:29:57.440 But he also has other communities and we've run into pinch points over the last couple of years 01:29:57.840 --> 01:30:00.400 With our ability to handle development review as it comes in 01:30:01.600 --> 01:30:06.640 Um, so we'll talk about that a little bit more here the other one that's highlighted on the right side is tourism partnership 01:30:06.720 --> 01:30:13.920 So you all are uh relatively familiar with this already after having approved an agreement with the uh the forest winds or chamber of commerce 01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:20.240 For partnership to fund a tourism director. So we'll touch on that a little bit here as well 01:30:22.240 --> 01:30:27.600 Looking at the junior planner or planner two as the um apa refers to it 01:30:27.920 --> 01:30:33.440 This would be looking for somebody with a few years of municipal experience potentially private sector experience as well 01:30:33.920 --> 01:30:38.960 Master's degree would be preferred. Um, this would be the staff person to our planning and zoning commission 01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:41.920 uh, you can see in a survey of 01:30:42.720 --> 01:30:47.200 comparable communities primarily within dane county but also looking a little bit outside of our 01:30:47.920 --> 01:30:54.720 More on the east side of the state the comparable salary range for a plan or two is in the 72 to $94,000 range 01:30:55.280 --> 01:31:01.600 The benefits estimate is just using a percent adjustment. So the total budgetary impact would be roughly 97 to 127,000 01:31:02.080 --> 01:31:04.800 Depending on where that lands and who we're able to look at 01:31:05.680 --> 01:31:08.080 some of the the task that the staff member would be 01:31:08.960 --> 01:31:16.720 Tasked with would be comprehensive planning. So that's that long range planning activities. Uh, the last update that we did was in 2023 01:31:17.360 --> 01:31:20.960 Um, so this would uh get them ahead of our next update 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:26.800 as well as um proposing different changes to land use regulations or zoning codes 01:31:27.600 --> 01:31:31.520 The development review as we keep getting projects coming in they would be leading that 01:31:32.000 --> 01:31:37.680 I think in the interim they would be doing that under mark was our current planner and then transitioning into a lead role too 01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:42.960 But I my preference would be to get somebody who has the technical skill set to review these out the gate 01:31:43.440 --> 01:31:50.960 So that uh mark over the next three years can focus on some of the more complex ones and this individual would be able to handle some of the 01:31:51.360 --> 01:31:53.360 Less complex development reviews 01:31:54.320 --> 01:31:55.520 Um 01:31:55.600 --> 01:32:01.440 One, I guess in house skill that we've lacked which could potentially have a budgetary impact too 01:32:01.520 --> 01:32:04.560 Would be to find somebody with uh gis and mapping skills 01:32:05.040 --> 01:32:10.880 Currently we rely on our consulting with veer bicker to do all that for us to be able to bring some of that house 01:32:10.880 --> 01:32:14.640 I think would be uh strategic from a cost management standpoint 01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:17.600 And time standpoint 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:23.360 And then to be able to get out into the community and this is a critical one that I want to focus on too because 01:32:24.080 --> 01:32:26.080 Using a third-party consultant 01:32:26.080 --> 01:32:28.800 They're not here in the community on a day-to-day basis 01:32:28.960 --> 01:32:32.480 Certainly they're very familiar with the community and they've done public engagement 01:32:32.560 --> 01:32:36.000 But to be have to have somebody here on a day-to-day basis to actually get out 01:32:36.400 --> 01:32:40.400 And listen to the community and get more feedback as we do some of our long range planning 01:32:40.400 --> 01:32:43.120 I think that's going to be a big benefit of having somebody in house 01:32:44.640 --> 01:32:46.160 Yeah 01:32:46.160 --> 01:32:48.160 Alex when you said the no not new 01:32:48.240 --> 01:32:52.080 Uh addition to the budget that was minus this position 01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:56.960 So the staffing pieces are not held I should clarify 01:32:57.360 --> 01:33:04.720 That has nothing to this the benefit of the cell or the staff position is not reflected in the community development department budget 01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:08.080 I think staffing is in a different area the general budget 01:33:10.640 --> 01:33:15.840 Yeah, generally what we what we do on our financial management side is we 01:33:17.040 --> 01:33:18.560 Budget the salaries 01:33:18.560 --> 01:33:26.400 Separately depending on whether their salary or wage employees and then we figure that into the overall expensive items 01:33:26.800 --> 01:33:29.680 So we'll you'll see from Brandon as we go through 01:33:30.400 --> 01:33:38.320 Uh, we have a number of positions and so what we'll do is we'll add the total impact including salary and benefits 01:33:38.800 --> 01:33:43.360 To help you or assist you in deciding which ones are priorities 01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:49.120 Um, so staff larger projects, um that that impact the operational side 01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:53.120 And so what that helps to do is see what the total percentage impact is 01:33:53.680 --> 01:33:57.760 Not only not just for the department budget, but for the overall budget 01:33:58.880 --> 01:34:02.800 So to answer your question, you know that net new increase does not include this 01:34:02.880 --> 01:34:07.040 But also I will say that current staff has not included in that uh budget to begin with 01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:11.760 Again just talking about this uh transition so both 01:34:12.560 --> 01:34:19.840 Both our consultant and then some in-house staff have also are also eyeing the big r word over the next three to five years 01:34:20.320 --> 01:34:27.440 So, uh bringing this again would transfer some of that knowledge help to uh, kind of build capacity in house, but also 01:34:28.160 --> 01:34:32.160 current practices when we have development come in that has our 01:34:32.800 --> 01:34:40.480 Consultings review we have a reimbursement agreement with those so a lot of the cost is actually offset by the developer paying for those reviews 01:34:40.960 --> 01:34:47.440 This gives us an opportunity to potentially capitalize on that and shift some of our billing practices if we have that in house 01:34:48.000 --> 01:34:52.800 Um rather than having that cost passed directly to a third party consultant 01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:57.680 We can sort of be a little bit more strategic in how we bill out for those activities in house 01:34:58.480 --> 01:35:02.480 Um, the other piece here is smoothing out growth growth phases 01:35:03.280 --> 01:35:04.240 So 01:35:04.240 --> 01:35:08.560 There's a saying well, I guess conceptually in planning when the iron is hot 01:35:08.800 --> 01:35:15.200 You're basically doing development review constantly, which we've been for the last three to five years really 01:35:15.760 --> 01:35:19.600 Um, and then when things sort of slow down you're doing more at the long range planning 01:35:19.680 --> 01:35:23.440 Again, that's just sort of a capacity management thing to be able to bring that in house 01:35:23.440 --> 01:35:30.000 I think will allow us to kind of smooth the bumps on that and be able to uh, do a little bit more long range planning while we have 01:35:30.640 --> 01:35:32.720 um the iron hot so to speak 01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:34.720 Um 01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:40.960 So that's the the plan or position that I'd like to look at to transition over to the partnership with the chamber 01:35:41.440 --> 01:35:44.560 Again, this is not reflected in the community development department budget 01:35:44.640 --> 01:35:49.280 But I did want to touch on it because I think it's important and I think bill you can correct me if i'm wrong 01:35:49.280 --> 01:35:53.360 But I think this is going to be in fund 230 and budget budgetary standpoint 01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:55.600 Yeah 01:35:55.600 --> 01:36:01.920 Yeah, so this this position is actually created and hired by the chamber 01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:06.640 uh, well, what technically uh the flow of dollars here as well 01:36:07.200 --> 01:36:10.560 Look at creating actually a separate fund to manage 01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:12.720 uh 01:36:12.720 --> 01:36:14.400 room rent 01:36:14.400 --> 01:36:17.840 Taxes coming in and so then from there we would do a transfer 01:36:18.640 --> 01:36:20.880 uh, so many percent to the 01:36:21.440 --> 01:36:25.280 uh chamber for commission for tourism, um, responsibilities 01:36:26.160 --> 01:36:29.520 And then what we would do is would transfer the remaining 30 01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:32.640 Into fund 230 01:36:32.640 --> 01:36:34.880 What that potentially does is 01:36:34.880 --> 01:36:41.040 Well, it would provide relief to fund 230 if you remember there's about a hundred thousand dollars of tax 01:36:41.520 --> 01:36:46.080 Impacts going in there. So tax dollars going into fund 230 to support that 01:36:46.640 --> 01:36:49.440 And as that as the tax base girls 01:36:50.320 --> 01:36:53.280 uh over time, um as rooms come online 01:36:53.920 --> 01:36:57.120 uh, because that's that's in a two-year cycle. So 01:36:57.840 --> 01:37:01.120 uh, we believe that the hampton will be at, um 01:37:02.080 --> 01:37:05.280 You know, a capacity or stabilization within 01:37:05.920 --> 01:37:10.880 Three years they're going to open doors in that september time frame. So the first four years next year 01:37:11.520 --> 01:37:13.520 and then 01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:15.520 You start the clock after that and then 01:37:15.920 --> 01:37:19.040 Um, I believe that marion has about 12 months 01:37:19.520 --> 01:37:22.960 Behind the hampton and so that will steadily build up 01:37:23.440 --> 01:37:29.520 Which will then provide us additional relief from fund 230 to move that down post dollars back into the general fund 01:37:31.120 --> 01:37:32.320 So 01:37:32.320 --> 01:37:36.240 Uh, this position would likely be hired in 2027 and I just wanted to cut 01:37:36.800 --> 01:37:42.960 Highlight some of the terms from the agreement that the village executed as they relate to budgets since we are talking budgets 01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:44.720 um 01:37:44.720 --> 01:37:47.520 So after we provide notice to the chamber they would make this hire 01:37:48.080 --> 01:37:54.160 Uh funded from room tax dollars as bill was talking about there from an oversight standpoint. I serve on the 01:37:54.400 --> 01:37:58.000 Uh chamber board of commerce or excuse me the chamber board of directors 01:37:58.160 --> 01:38:04.400 So I will have monthly financial statements reviews of the activities that are associated with this position 01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:11.600 We've also uh, we'll be getting quarterly reports and then the position will be coming to do an annual presentation to you all 01:38:12.080 --> 01:38:14.080 As part of their the agreement as well 01:38:14.160 --> 01:38:18.400 They have to come and have a budget approved by the village board and then any 01:38:18.880 --> 01:38:24.160 Increases above that budget or increases to the salary for the position have to be approved by the village board 01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:27.920 And uh, that budget is an annual request that they'll have to make of you all 01:38:30.560 --> 01:38:35.920 I mentioned the third piece of the strategic plan was this idea of planning for future growth 01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:40.080 Obviously, we have our comprehensive plan. This was something that we had in the budget for this year 01:38:40.080 --> 01:38:45.120 2026. It's an infrastructure growth plan, which takes a long look out into uh 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:46.880 40 01:38:46.880 --> 01:38:50.640 50 year time frame about the extensive utility service in the village 01:38:51.280 --> 01:38:54.640 Um, just wanted to give you a sense of what the timing looks like for this 01:38:55.040 --> 01:38:59.520 We are uh, you'll be seeing in the next if not the next meeting perhaps in september 01:38:59.920 --> 01:39:02.000 A contract for services to put this in place 01:39:02.640 --> 01:39:06.080 With the plan being delivered in 2027. So we will get 01:39:06.320 --> 01:39:10.560 Uh, some materials out to you for review at that point and then talking about 01:39:11.440 --> 01:39:16.240 How that integrates with some of this additional planning staff and our long-range planning efforts 01:39:17.440 --> 01:39:24.320 2023, I believe was five years after we had done the previous update to the comprehensive plan that this could be perfectly into a 01:39:24.880 --> 01:39:26.880 2028 comprehensive plan update 01:39:27.520 --> 01:39:33.440 Uh, perhaps as a sort of cut your teeth moment to this junior planner as well to integrate that in there too 01:39:33.520 --> 01:39:39.600 So, um, the goal with this is to just give a better sense of currently the comprehensive plan has growth phasing policies 01:39:40.080 --> 01:39:46.080 This gives us a better sense and evidential backing to how we go about making those policies 01:39:48.320 --> 01:39:49.920 Yeah 01:39:49.920 --> 01:39:53.760 I just have a comment early in your presentation you talked about 01:39:54.320 --> 01:40:01.280 Us think you called it like special studies or something like that and you said and how there really wasn't a whole lot of those 01:40:02.000 --> 01:40:04.240 But I was personally thinking about this and 01:40:04.960 --> 01:40:11.680 Knowing that say we're going to hopefully come out of an infrastructure growth plan sometime in 27 01:40:12.320 --> 01:40:14.320 I would hope that's going to kick off 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:16.800 A number of studies 01:40:16.800 --> 01:40:21.200 And even though like the comprehensive plan I agree that it's going to take a longer thing 01:40:21.600 --> 01:40:23.040 But I also 01:40:23.040 --> 01:40:25.600 I'm thinking more about like say the official maps 01:40:26.160 --> 01:40:31.360 Maybe trail networks and things like that where I think you could maybe kick those 01:40:32.480 --> 01:40:34.000 Out quicker 01:40:34.000 --> 01:40:40.880 So i'm bringing that up as is that something that we want to incorporate into a 2027 plan 01:40:42.240 --> 01:40:44.480 Yeah, I can definitely take a look at that 01:40:44.480 --> 01:40:51.440 I think the tricky part with with some of these plans especially an infrastructure growth plan is that it involves and impacts multiple 01:40:52.240 --> 01:40:59.120 Disciplines or departments, so I would think the public services department, especially when you're talking about transportation plans those types of activities 01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:08.800 Would either cost share or or have sort of an outcome from whatever that plan may be if it's a transportation network plan those types of things 01:41:09.040 --> 01:41:14.480 So for example this plan of itself for 2026 was not budgeted in the community development department 01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:16.800 But was funded across different divisions 01:41:16.800 --> 01:41:20.800 So it certainly is something that we could look at and try to plan for in that way 01:41:22.160 --> 01:41:26.320 Yeah, I think that I think the policy decision that needs to be had is whether or not you want to do 01:41:26.480 --> 01:41:29.520 Separately and ahead of the con plan or as part of the con plan 01:41:30.160 --> 01:41:35.680 As you think about, you know, how many times as the village we want to go out to the community to make 01:41:36.320 --> 01:41:38.320 those surveys and those requests 01:41:38.720 --> 01:41:42.880 uh within this time frame 2028 is also the the redoing of the 01:41:43.520 --> 01:41:46.880 What the expiration of the current strategic plan so that that 01:41:47.520 --> 01:41:54.720 All of those plans for the future growth the future of the forest kind of coincides around that 2028 01:41:55.520 --> 01:41:57.520 timeframe and so 01:41:58.080 --> 01:42:00.080 You know when you think about potentially 01:42:01.760 --> 01:42:04.560 Public hearings information meeting the surveys 01:42:05.360 --> 01:42:10.080 I mean a lot of the community is going to get hit with a lot of information at once 01:42:10.640 --> 01:42:14.240 And so controlling some of the confusion that might be out there 01:42:15.200 --> 01:42:16.720 replication of 01:42:17.040 --> 01:42:21.680 Opportunity, I think that's something that also has to be discussed through this process 01:42:24.800 --> 01:42:29.920 Yes, my ad with that is the maybe we could look at it is more or less like a neighborhood plan that 01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:34.720 A specific location. I just worry about some of the growth that we've been having 01:42:35.440 --> 01:42:37.440 out and 01:42:37.440 --> 01:42:40.800 Not really out anywhere that's not quite around the peripheral 01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:45.760 If they're necessarily getting the trail networks or the sidewalk plans 01:42:46.480 --> 01:42:48.800 Instituteed and things like that. I don't want 01:42:49.600 --> 01:42:54.720 Growth to happen and then have us have to do improve my projects after the fact 01:42:55.360 --> 01:42:56.560 So 01:42:56.560 --> 01:42:58.160 That was my 01:42:58.160 --> 01:43:00.400 Yeah, I think that's helpful feedback 01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:07.520 We could probably take another look at the scope and the geographic locations of this growth growth plan and and maybe have a better sense from 01:43:07.920 --> 01:43:09.920 looking at that a little bit 01:43:11.360 --> 01:43:13.360 Uh 01:43:13.360 --> 01:43:15.360 That's all I had 01:43:15.440 --> 01:43:17.440 question 01:43:17.440 --> 01:43:18.960 Oh 01:43:18.960 --> 01:43:20.960 Going back to the junior planner 01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:22.960 Um 01:43:22.960 --> 01:43:29.840 You see that the total impact we're approximately going to be 97,000 to 127,000 01:43:31.280 --> 01:43:37.520 Does that take into account then would we be reducing any of the total impact from our senior 01:43:38.720 --> 01:43:39.760 Um 01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:41.120 lander 01:43:41.120 --> 01:43:44.320 Yeah, so eventually yes, so if you 01:43:45.040 --> 01:43:46.880 call 01:43:46.880 --> 01:43:49.040 So here where I said there's a 01:43:49.920 --> 01:43:56.080 proposing an increase for next year for additional staff coordination with that senior planner with um marker offers 01:43:56.480 --> 01:43:58.960 And that was mostly born out of the thought that 01:43:59.360 --> 01:43:59.760 um 01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:06.880 Just trying to get them more touch points in that in next year to be able to do some of that knowledge transfer to get them up to speed quicker 01:44:07.360 --> 01:44:12.000 Um, but eventually yes, that would be uh reducing with the thought that this position 01:44:12.400 --> 01:44:15.840 Called in three to five years grows into that senior planner and is the replacement 01:44:16.800 --> 01:44:18.800 Thanks 01:44:23.840 --> 01:44:25.840 Anybody else 01:44:26.880 --> 01:44:28.880 Thank you, Alex 01:44:33.040 --> 01:44:35.680 Um old business resolution 01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:39.840 I miss something 01:44:41.920 --> 01:44:50.400 Resolution 2026 dash 096 a resolution adopting the village of the forest engaged to forest public engagement tool policy 01:44:51.440 --> 01:44:53.440 Gavin will be doing that presentation 01:44:54.640 --> 01:45:00.320 Yes with some assistance from al bill and then stacey is needed. So, uh, I might defer questions to 01:45:00.880 --> 01:45:01.920 Um 01:45:01.920 --> 01:45:04.640 To some staff as well. Uh, so just for a little bit of background 01:45:04.640 --> 01:45:09.760 Um, if you if you've read the memo and seen the policy proposal 01:45:10.240 --> 01:45:16.160 Um, as you all know engaged to forest is our our public facing engagement website that allows for opportunities for residents to 01:45:16.720 --> 01:45:22.240 Uh engage provide feedback. Um, and currently engage with each other on projects 01:45:22.960 --> 01:45:26.320 Development community updates. Um, you name it. It's on there 01:45:26.800 --> 01:45:28.800 Uh, this policy 01:45:28.800 --> 01:45:36.800 Is it old business because this comes as a presentation from a priority set by a former board three trustees who are currently on this board 01:45:37.040 --> 01:45:39.120 Were on that board when this was an issue 01:45:39.120 --> 01:45:45.680 And so, um, as you've read the feedback to or the excuse me the forum tool on engaged to forest is a 01:45:46.160 --> 01:45:54.560 Uh report comment and reply upvote downvote style engagement feature that allows users to post comments reply directly to comments 01:45:55.040 --> 01:45:56.480 add 01:45:56.560 --> 01:46:00.240 Upvotes downvotes, um post anything and it is publicly available 01:46:00.720 --> 01:46:05.840 And uh, you're able to respond to it as well. And so this is a valuable resource that has shown 01:46:06.320 --> 01:46:10.320 Um, success and a lot of value in some projects including 01:46:10.880 --> 01:46:15.040 Um mountain biking at birdhouses some of those project pages that have been on engaged to forest 01:46:15.520 --> 01:46:23.280 Uh, then came the fluoride discussion and there were a total of 282 comments on a on the threat of of 01:46:24.000 --> 01:46:28.560 Input and many of them were were were fell out of 01:46:30.320 --> 01:46:38.480 It ran amok. They fell out of alignment with our goal with the with the feature and so at that time the board had requested that we look at a way to 01:46:39.200 --> 01:46:40.000 um 01:46:40.000 --> 01:46:44.880 Limit to the use of that engagement tool and so that is what i've brought to you today 01:46:45.120 --> 01:46:52.160 I do want to make one amendment to my memo that says the requested village board focuses action. This is action and or discussion 01:46:52.640 --> 01:46:59.120 Um, this is opening the conversation gauging the temperature of the current board as your priorities may have changed 01:46:59.200 --> 01:47:03.920 And so really this is an opportunity for us to see where we find this as a priority 01:47:04.400 --> 01:47:10.080 Um, essentially this would be if if approved as is this would be limiting the use of 01:47:10.640 --> 01:47:17.840 Uh, the forum tool on engaged to forest and prioritizing other features that allow for direct feedback to be sent to 01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:23.040 Anyone you want you can put input and email address and it'll be sent to that person when the feedback submitted 01:47:23.520 --> 01:47:24.720 um 01:47:24.720 --> 01:47:30.960 And then those those comments would be used in making decisions would be sent to department heads the communications manager and dispersed as such 01:47:31.520 --> 01:47:39.680 Um, there are options right? Uh, I'd look to three number one would be where we're right now is is is no involvement leaving 01:47:40.160 --> 01:47:42.160 The forum tool open and available 01:47:42.480 --> 01:47:49.120 Um, we do use a third party moderation the open point software auto removes posts with obscene or profane language 01:47:49.440 --> 01:47:56.160 Things like that they get placed in a waiting room. Um, and then can be released if they were if they weren't moderated for some reason that isn't inappropriate 01:47:56.960 --> 01:48:01.120 And so that would be option one option two would be this limited forum style 01:48:01.200 --> 01:48:06.800 And so essentially the policy is here so you can see what an option would be and then the third would be to fully 01:48:07.760 --> 01:48:10.080 disallow that engagement from happening and 01:48:10.880 --> 01:48:12.880 All our options in action that you can take 01:48:13.360 --> 01:48:18.480 Um, but opening that floor to discussion now. You want to see if Stacy your bill or i'll had anything to add on that 01:48:21.920 --> 01:48:23.920 Yeah, Gavin you gave a good job 01:48:24.720 --> 01:48:28.320 Representing kind of the history and we're looking at here this 01:48:28.960 --> 01:48:33.440 This subject is complex in that not only does it 01:48:34.240 --> 01:48:40.400 Consider what the village is trying to accomplish in regards to communication and engagement 01:48:40.960 --> 01:48:42.960 not only on 01:48:44.080 --> 01:48:48.320 Percate projects that need comment that are more legislative in nature 01:48:48.960 --> 01:48:53.920 Uh, but also we utilize engage in the tools on a gauge to display 01:48:54.560 --> 01:48:59.680 Uh more statutorily required or ordinance required projects 01:49:00.240 --> 01:49:02.480 for example, you'll see that that 01:49:03.040 --> 01:49:06.480 um on certain projects like the birdhouses like 01:49:07.200 --> 01:49:08.560 um 01:49:08.560 --> 01:49:10.400 wildlife management system 01:49:11.120 --> 01:49:12.640 Uh, like fluoride 01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:17.840 Um, there was this open forum and commenting tool available 01:49:18.480 --> 01:49:22.160 Um, and those are more legislative policy decision 01:49:22.880 --> 01:49:26.880 Uh, whereas for development, uh, we have more of a 01:49:27.440 --> 01:49:33.840 Displaying of information and less commenting because within our ordinances in the state statutes 01:49:34.400 --> 01:49:36.400 there's certain requirements, um 01:49:37.280 --> 01:49:38.480 that 01:49:38.480 --> 01:49:42.720 Portray the the process of development and approvals and when 01:49:43.440 --> 01:49:46.160 um public comment is interjected into that 01:49:46.960 --> 01:49:48.960 I will also say that 01:49:50.240 --> 01:49:53.040 This is a tool for the village. It's not the only tool 01:49:53.360 --> 01:49:55.840 uh in regards to engagement and and 01:49:56.640 --> 01:49:58.640 and uh public commenting 01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:00.720 uh, it's intended as we 01:50:01.760 --> 01:50:03.760 Develop the communications 01:50:04.480 --> 01:50:10.480 Department to be able to utilize a number of tools to receive comments suggestions questions 01:50:11.120 --> 01:50:12.160 on 01:50:12.160 --> 01:50:13.440 Projects 01:50:13.440 --> 01:50:19.040 And so with that complexity we also in regards to public commenting and public forums 01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:22.000 We also have the the complexity of 01:50:22.640 --> 01:50:29.840 Um, what is legal and what it's not legal. Uh, what is a liability in our risk when we open up a public forum 01:50:30.400 --> 01:50:33.440 um, particularly in in regards to 01:50:34.080 --> 01:50:37.360 um, open meetings law walking quorums and or 01:50:38.000 --> 01:50:42.800 Speech and we've thought what that um when we've talked about our our 01:50:43.600 --> 01:50:45.600 public comment policy, um 01:50:46.560 --> 01:50:50.640 That uh, those those challenges continue to exist 01:50:51.200 --> 01:50:54.080 whether that's um a forum here in person 01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:59.760 Or a forum that we control on a website like engaged before us 01:51:00.320 --> 01:51:05.760 So there is a mix of of different priorities and different requirements that we need to consider 01:51:06.320 --> 01:51:08.320 Um as we go through this 01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:11.760 We're happy to ask answer any questions. I think 01:51:13.440 --> 01:51:15.040 You know, we're happy to 01:51:15.040 --> 01:51:19.440 To show any of the tools we've explored in this process 01:51:20.160 --> 01:51:22.160 what third party 01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:28.320 Screening looks like and I believe the last time that we talked about this we went through the social point 01:51:28.960 --> 01:51:30.720 Screening process 01:51:30.720 --> 01:51:34.640 And the idea here is that if we want something more restrictive 01:51:35.200 --> 01:51:39.520 And what social point has to offer and we as a court organization 01:51:40.080 --> 01:51:43.680 Um, we need to implement that policy here locally 01:51:50.320 --> 01:51:52.320 Brad 01:51:52.640 --> 01:51:59.040 Brad go ahead. I think I saw an exhibit a that it it one of the points was that this new policy would promote 01:51:59.920 --> 01:52:01.920 Transparency and I'm just wondering 01:52:02.160 --> 01:52:08.080 How we think that would promote transparency by limiting comments to go out to the public 01:52:10.960 --> 01:52:13.760 I can I can help with that. Uh, and so in the original 01:52:14.400 --> 01:52:18.560 Uh in the original draft of the policy part of the plan if if we were to adopt 01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:22.080 The feedback format would be to post a role of any 01:52:22.640 --> 01:52:30.160 Comments submitted to the project page at the conclusion of the projects and in speaking without the feasibility of that 01:52:30.800 --> 01:52:32.560 wasn't because 01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:35.120 Um, but the point is that we would we wouldn't want the 01:52:36.400 --> 01:52:41.920 Attacking or a piece of comments to be displayed and if we posted a role of all comments received that would be posting back 01:52:42.560 --> 01:52:46.160 the the inappropriate comments back to the page and so 01:52:46.720 --> 01:52:49.920 Um, I think in discussion, I think I mean in all honesty. I think I just 01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:56.160 Forgot to remove that. That's that's what it was what it was referring to promoting transparency and that the comments would be put back 01:52:56.720 --> 01:53:03.920 Um, I do believe that the general use of engagement of forest goes back to our strategic plan initiative of increasing transparency 01:53:04.160 --> 01:53:09.680 Um, and so I think as we continue the conversation about the best ways to go about that 01:53:10.480 --> 01:53:14.960 I'd argue having engaged a force in general is increasing transparency. So a good point to add 01:53:16.480 --> 01:53:18.480 I 01:53:19.920 --> 01:53:21.920 I believe 01:53:21.920 --> 01:53:29.840 The third party moderator can only remove what obscene words. Yeah, so that'll take down obscene words profane 01:53:31.440 --> 01:53:38.960 Words actually example during the fluoride forum. It was taking down posts that had the word acid in them because people referring to 01:53:39.600 --> 01:53:43.360 The hydrofluorocylic salicylic acid. Um, whatever that was 01:53:43.680 --> 01:53:48.160 Uh, and that that was taking it down so stacey was going through and and manually accepting those posts 01:53:48.240 --> 01:53:55.360 They get put into a waiting like a virtual waiting room and then is at the discretion of village staff whether or not they're considered 01:53:55.520 --> 01:53:57.520 appropriate to be on the page 01:53:57.520 --> 01:53:58.640 and so 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:02.480 part of the nuanced conversation is the question of 01:54:03.040 --> 01:54:09.600 Who should you know, how can we how how how little discretion can we put on staff is how right how much how 01:54:10.560 --> 01:54:16.720 What is the lowest amount of discretion we can place on village staff so that we don't open ourselves to liability as far as discrimination 01:54:17.120 --> 01:54:21.040 Um against comments submitted and so that's something we're trying to avoid as well 01:54:22.400 --> 01:54:25.440 Social point is that the third party moderator? Correct 01:54:26.640 --> 01:54:31.440 Can they put a word limit so comments great question. I checked with stacey 01:54:31.440 --> 01:54:37.840 so um two things we looked into if the forum tool were to be kept there are certain parameters 01:54:37.840 --> 01:54:43.760 You can add to the feature and so in its in its full glory. Um, you can have 01:54:44.880 --> 01:54:47.600 posts comments up votes down votes replies 01:54:48.240 --> 01:54:52.240 Um all that jazz and you're able to remove some of those so you can remove 01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:59.040 Um, it's called threaded is the is the the the term they use which is when you can reply directly to a comment 01:54:59.440 --> 01:55:04.400 And so if the board were interested in adopting a policy that removed that 01:55:05.040 --> 01:55:07.040 like that opportunity where people are 01:55:07.920 --> 01:55:12.560 Directly attacking or replying to a comment that was already posted that that is a possibility 01:55:13.040 --> 01:55:15.440 There isn't a word limit feature. Um 01:55:16.320 --> 01:55:20.080 Built into the page right now. That's I mean if that's something we wanted to add as a disclaimer 01:55:20.080 --> 01:55:22.720 We could but I don't see that being followed necessarily 01:55:23.120 --> 01:55:26.880 um, but as far as parameters there are you can remove up votes down votes and 01:55:27.840 --> 01:55:29.040 um 01:55:29.040 --> 01:55:35.440 Replies as well. I would think they could set a word limit just in terms of when you hit it. You can't get any more in 01:55:36.400 --> 01:55:38.960 That would be a question for open point. I think I'll let something add to 01:55:40.080 --> 01:55:42.080 Oh, I'm sorry legal department 01:55:42.800 --> 01:55:44.800 Champing at the bit here. Um 01:55:45.680 --> 01:55:48.480 There's a much more fundamental question we have to deal with 01:55:49.440 --> 01:55:51.040 This is not 01:55:51.040 --> 01:55:56.000 A private party with a facebook group who can say I don't like what you said 01:55:57.040 --> 01:55:58.320 I'm gonna 01:55:58.320 --> 01:56:03.840 Kick you out of the group. I'm gonna delete your post. I'm gonna do whatever you can do on facebook 01:56:03.920 --> 01:56:05.920 I'm not a social media guy 01:56:06.960 --> 01:56:12.640 You're the government. So when you takes it if you are opening this up for public 01:56:13.360 --> 01:56:14.960 as a public forum 01:56:14.960 --> 01:56:19.280 Meaning people can communicate not just with the village but with each other 01:56:20.880 --> 01:56:23.600 You you basically take the bed with the good 01:56:24.320 --> 01:56:26.320 You can have all the rules you want about 01:56:26.960 --> 01:56:27.840 um 01:56:27.840 --> 01:56:31.200 You know, you can't attack another person or you can't 01:56:32.000 --> 01:56:34.000 Say anything that's offensive 01:56:34.160 --> 01:56:35.600 um 01:56:35.600 --> 01:56:37.600 When it comes to the first amendment 01:56:39.040 --> 01:56:47.280 But the um supreme court says about offensive comments is quote giving offense is a viewpoint 01:56:49.280 --> 01:56:55.920 So you're engaging at viewpoint discrimination if you decide that well that that's an offensive comment 01:56:56.640 --> 01:57:02.000 Therefore, we're not going to let that post go up. We're just going to let the ones that are not offensive go up 01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:04.800 Okay, so if you 01:57:05.440 --> 01:57:12.240 Decide that you're going to post people's comments on your website. You are publishing those comments and then you're publishing all of them 01:57:13.360 --> 01:57:15.360 All right, the social point 01:57:15.840 --> 01:57:23.440 Screening tool is kind of irrelevant the way this policy is now written because the comments are only going to the staff 01:57:24.400 --> 01:57:30.640 You know, the the program will screen them out if they've got profanity in them or if they're attacking somebody 01:57:31.200 --> 01:57:33.200 but then that gets viewed by the 01:57:34.480 --> 01:57:38.480 Village staff and gets forwarded to the to the department head 01:57:39.120 --> 01:57:40.880 okay, um 01:57:40.880 --> 01:57:42.880 in the floride debate 01:57:43.600 --> 01:57:50.800 You some of you probably recall there were people on the board who wanted to say we got to take some of these comments down because they're offensive 01:57:51.600 --> 01:57:53.040 and 01:57:53.120 --> 01:57:57.440 You know, there was some discussion about well some of them are captured by this screening tool 01:57:58.080 --> 01:58:02.880 Every one of those that was captured by the screening tool was published by the staff 01:58:04.000 --> 01:58:09.120 Because I told them you can't pick and choose which ones are there and you can't let a computer do it for you 01:58:10.000 --> 01:58:11.680 Okay, so 01:58:11.680 --> 01:58:15.280 The computer can grab these things send them over to stacy 01:58:15.600 --> 01:58:20.720 But then stacy's got to put them on the on the website because the decision was made 01:58:21.200 --> 01:58:23.840 All of the posts are going to be published. So 01:58:25.120 --> 01:58:31.440 To avoid that problem and it's policy question for you, but I just want to let you know it's either all or nothing 01:58:31.920 --> 01:58:33.920 you really don't get to 01:58:33.920 --> 01:58:37.840 To choose which things you know of people's comments you publish 01:58:38.400 --> 01:58:39.360 Um 01:58:39.360 --> 01:58:45.040 We modified the policy to basically say the comments only go one way they go they come to the village staff 01:58:45.920 --> 01:58:50.640 The department heads to be used in their analysis and their recommendations to the board 01:58:51.440 --> 01:58:52.400 Um 01:58:52.400 --> 01:58:56.240 Once you go a step further and say now we're going to publish all of these 01:58:56.720 --> 01:58:59.280 You're going to be publishing profanity. You're going to be publishing 01:58:59.920 --> 01:59:04.640 Uh attacks on people because there's going to be somebody out there that can't be hid themselves 01:59:05.440 --> 01:59:07.440 We've seen that and we know that's going to happen 01:59:08.960 --> 01:59:14.320 That's really the it's kind of the fundamental question. Do you want to put me post these and 01:59:15.040 --> 01:59:18.960 Live with the downside or do you want to just have it as an information tool that people 01:59:19.520 --> 01:59:25.440 Have the ability to give their input, but they don't have the ability to perform the way they may want to perform the public 01:59:27.920 --> 01:59:29.920 Um, I'm sorry guys 01:59:30.000 --> 01:59:30.800 Okay, I 01:59:30.800 --> 01:59:34.800 I'm just going to say that I'm in favor of you got to take the bed with the good and leave it the way it is 01:59:34.880 --> 01:59:40.080 Because I would like to see what people are saying and we're in that kind of world right now where there's 01:59:41.360 --> 01:59:43.040 Nasty 01:59:43.040 --> 01:59:44.800 Who's up? 01:59:44.800 --> 01:59:46.560 Fred 01:59:46.560 --> 01:59:51.520 I got a couple questions. Uh, how many of our projects do we have comments on? 01:59:57.760 --> 01:59:59.760 Uh, it kind of depends on the project so 02:00:01.680 --> 02:00:04.080 Uh wildlife management bike 02:00:04.080 --> 02:00:08.320 A mountain biking or two that comes to my head right now that we have the open comment on 02:00:08.960 --> 02:00:12.800 Anything like bill mentioned like development wise. We don't have comment done 02:00:13.760 --> 02:00:15.920 kind of again based on 02:00:15.920 --> 02:00:21.600 What project is and how the yeah, so we we use various tools. So for example, I think in 02:00:22.800 --> 02:00:26.080 2025 we've had an open forum on budget 02:00:26.800 --> 02:00:29.440 Um in 2026 we've also had that 02:00:30.160 --> 02:00:32.160 um, I think we switched to 02:00:32.880 --> 02:00:37.440 All in the discussion on on or I previously we switched to this 02:00:38.080 --> 02:00:39.120 um 02:00:39.200 --> 02:00:44.800 This tool where they submit it to us and then we provide those comments at the end for the closure of the 02:00:45.200 --> 02:00:47.200 commenting process 02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:49.600 Process 02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:51.600 To the village trustees 02:00:51.600 --> 02:00:54.320 So there's a number of different ways. There's a handful 02:00:54.880 --> 02:00:56.400 Like I said earlier 02:00:56.400 --> 02:01:00.320 Items that are more legislative in nature for decision making 02:01:00.720 --> 02:01:05.840 We've tried to provide some kind of comment process for folks to 02:01:06.560 --> 02:01:08.560 be able to enter that 02:01:08.560 --> 02:01:10.560 um, I know that we've had 02:01:10.560 --> 02:01:12.800 um, kind of a 02:01:12.800 --> 02:01:14.640 open forum or 02:01:14.640 --> 02:01:21.280 um, issues that are identified within the community stop signs lights sidewalks, etc 02:01:21.920 --> 02:01:23.360 And so 02:01:23.360 --> 02:01:25.360 Uh, we've kind of used it spiraling 02:01:26.000 --> 02:01:31.920 Understanding that um as a open forum, you know, everything has to be posted 02:01:32.400 --> 02:01:36.800 I will say that we we have received some negative comments on 02:01:39.440 --> 02:01:41.600 Projects like the wildlife 02:01:42.960 --> 02:01:48.320 Management program and I believe the mountain biking one there are some concerns, but we've left those up 02:01:48.880 --> 02:01:53.520 Once the project ends we archive it and so you can still find the project 02:01:53.520 --> 02:01:59.360 But it is left out. We don't remove it pursuant to the the legal advice that we've received 02:02:00.240 --> 02:02:05.200 Um, I just want to be able to take the opportunity here is to say, you know in regards to the 02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:08.720 regular your question on transparency 02:02:09.520 --> 02:02:11.520 Uh, when we look at transparency 02:02:12.000 --> 02:02:18.400 We question, you know, what is the definition of transparency? Is it full transparency? Is it some transparency? 02:02:19.200 --> 02:02:21.120 Um, is it communications? 02:02:21.760 --> 02:02:25.680 Is it really transparency or is it the way that we communicate and I think those are 02:02:26.320 --> 02:02:27.920 different things 02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:29.840 and so 02:02:29.840 --> 02:02:34.800 I don't think anybody's ever been able to provide me with an answer as you know, okay 02:02:34.800 --> 02:02:39.600 What is transparency that what is the definition of transparency that everyone can be on? 02:02:40.400 --> 02:02:41.760 and so 02:02:41.760 --> 02:02:50.480 Uh, we're trying to accomplish that with with the policy one one. I think benefit of the policy is to set an expectation out there 02:02:51.200 --> 02:02:52.240 And 02:02:52.320 --> 02:02:57.680 If the public is going to comment or provide a comment to the board or the staff 02:02:58.400 --> 02:03:00.960 That it will be hurt, right? And so 02:03:02.720 --> 02:03:04.720 Being able to designate 02:03:05.040 --> 02:03:09.440 What the forum is whether it's a fully open or whether it's a limited forum 02:03:10.160 --> 02:03:11.520 Um 02:03:11.520 --> 02:03:13.920 Helps to communicate that process 02:03:14.560 --> 02:03:20.160 Um, and so like I said, it's not an easy not an easy answer uh to this 02:03:20.800 --> 02:03:26.640 Uh, but like I all said if it is the decision of the board to leave it fully open 02:03:27.520 --> 02:03:33.600 That's you know staff. We don't have an issue with that. We'll continue to do what we do here 02:03:34.080 --> 02:03:36.080 Uh, if it's a limited forum 02:03:36.560 --> 02:03:45.520 Um, it involves a little bit more work. Um, but anything created is a public record and so there is some 02:03:46.320 --> 02:03:51.120 There are some some parameters that you and as the village board can set 02:03:51.520 --> 02:03:55.040 If you choose to go with a limited forum within this policy 02:03:55.680 --> 02:03:57.680 Uh to provide 02:03:58.880 --> 02:04:05.440 More access per se to the comments over having it displayed automatically 02:04:07.360 --> 02:04:11.520 Then do we do anything to regulate our facebook age and comments there there 02:04:11.760 --> 02:04:13.760 I 02:04:15.200 --> 02:04:17.200 That's in like 02:04:17.920 --> 02:04:21.760 As bad language facebook automatically will pick it down, but other things we don't 02:04:25.040 --> 02:04:30.400 I'm just equating. I mean if we open it for for facebook to have any comments on a project then 02:04:31.760 --> 02:04:35.440 What's the difference if it's on our website too because of different forum for people to comment 02:04:36.400 --> 02:04:39.920 What I would like to see is having an area where you can put comments 02:04:40.880 --> 02:04:44.560 And maybe don't have threads off of that where people can reply to that 02:04:44.560 --> 02:04:49.280 But have the comment because if somebody makes a good comment that's in 02:04:51.040 --> 02:04:53.520 In a true sense, they're asking question. They want to know 02:04:53.920 --> 02:05:02.160 Information and then allowing village staff to answer that if it's appropriate or if they have the knowledge because if one person has the comments or question 02:05:02.720 --> 02:05:04.720 I shouldn't say comment if somebody has a question 02:05:05.680 --> 02:05:06.880 Um 02:05:06.880 --> 02:05:13.040 More than likely more people in the community have the same question and then having that answer posted they're replied to in real time 02:05:13.760 --> 02:05:19.120 Uh, I think would be beneficial and I don't know if you can restrict it to your only allowed to ask questions 02:05:19.200 --> 02:05:23.760 And you're not allowed to reply to the thread unless your village staff and have those parameters 02:05:26.400 --> 02:05:28.400 And maybe that's an unknown at this time 02:05:29.280 --> 02:05:35.120 I think the question I mean the issue that that leads to is how do we 02:05:36.560 --> 02:05:40.560 Regulate and implement that how do we stop a person from 02:05:41.600 --> 02:05:43.600 posting an answer 02:05:44.480 --> 02:05:50.480 When it's it's submitted on a open forum even if we we try to moderate it 02:05:51.280 --> 02:05:52.400 um 02:05:52.400 --> 02:05:57.840 Interpret interpretation of it may be subject to liability and challenge 02:05:58.560 --> 02:06:02.480 Uh, and then talking you know, it's interesting to go here. Um 02:06:03.440 --> 02:06:05.440 And then talking to limiting just 02:06:06.000 --> 02:06:13.360 An original post we thought we thought through that too. And if you have a bad actor, you're gonna have a bad actor 02:06:13.760 --> 02:06:16.400 They're in our original post some need two times 02:06:16.960 --> 02:06:21.040 Um, so even if you don't have a thread that up thread up or thread down 02:06:22.000 --> 02:06:23.680 if you if you 02:06:23.680 --> 02:06:25.680 Provide that open forum 02:06:26.000 --> 02:06:30.160 That there's a bad actor whether it's a real person or a fake account 02:06:30.800 --> 02:06:33.920 You know third and I could jump to the hoops to make it happen 02:06:34.720 --> 02:06:36.720 And then we've experienced that 02:06:40.560 --> 02:06:45.920 Yeah, I was just gonna it's gonna say that once you tell people that they can comment and the public can see those comments 02:06:46.960 --> 02:06:49.200 You can try to limit it to questions, but 02:06:49.200 --> 02:06:51.200 You 02:06:51.200 --> 02:06:56.640 You're gonna have people commenting on that question and give any answer to that question in their own mind 02:06:57.280 --> 02:07:01.840 And then you're gonna have people responding to that saying you're a an idiot 02:07:02.400 --> 02:07:06.880 This is what the right answer should be and then you've got the same problem you had to begin with 02:07:12.080 --> 02:07:18.480 So the the feedback tool that's in there does that was when a question is asked 02:07:19.200 --> 02:07:21.200 does that post 02:07:21.600 --> 02:07:24.080 Too engaged to forest or does it just go to 02:07:24.800 --> 02:07:28.160 What's addressed to and not visible to everybody else? 02:07:29.120 --> 02:07:35.360 Correct. Yeah, so that that would not be visible on the page. Um, it's when it's set up as a tool on the project page 02:07:35.360 --> 02:07:39.040 You can set who it will be automatically forwarded to and so 02:07:39.920 --> 02:07:42.800 Everything goes to stacy and then she also can add 02:07:43.360 --> 02:07:44.320 um 02:07:44.320 --> 02:07:46.480 additional like if it was if it was 02:07:46.480 --> 02:07:48.480 You know a wildlife management project she could add 02:07:48.960 --> 02:07:53.840 Gregor Judd to that or whatever the project wasn't they'd automatically get those those feedback pieces 02:07:54.720 --> 02:07:56.720 and then would that then 02:07:58.240 --> 02:08:00.080 Be 02:08:00.080 --> 02:08:02.960 Put back onto the site at some point because it's public 02:08:03.520 --> 02:08:06.560 Or it wouldn't it would be it would be public record 02:08:06.560 --> 02:08:11.120 But it wouldn't be put on the site under the with the way the plan is currently written because again 02:08:11.120 --> 02:08:14.080 If you put some of it on the site you had to put all of it on the site 02:08:14.560 --> 02:08:18.240 If somebody wants to make a record request and get copies of everything 02:08:18.800 --> 02:08:23.200 You've got to retain them because we've got a record retention policy that we have to follow 02:08:23.840 --> 02:08:28.320 Um, we have a public records law that says if somebody asks where we've got to give it to them 02:08:28.880 --> 02:08:34.960 But the question is whether you're going to publish these things to the world without anybody asking for if somebody wants them they can get 02:08:35.840 --> 02:08:36.640 um 02:08:36.640 --> 02:08:37.920 But 02:08:37.920 --> 02:08:42.480 The question for you now is whether or not you're going to voluntarily put everything out there 02:08:44.240 --> 02:08:46.240 And then just one more thing so the 02:08:46.800 --> 02:08:50.400 Forum where they people would not be able to engage with each other 02:08:51.600 --> 02:08:53.920 Am I right when I say your worry is that 02:08:54.720 --> 02:08:56.720 Someone asks question 02:08:57.440 --> 02:09:03.600 Someone else replies to it even though it's not in the same threat is that kind of what the worry is there 02:09:04.800 --> 02:09:07.200 Well, that's what we're trying to avoid what what 02:09:08.160 --> 02:09:11.600 And this kind of goes back to what i think Brad was concerned about before 02:09:12.240 --> 02:09:14.240 If somebody asks a good question 02:09:14.640 --> 02:09:17.280 The department had in charge of that project will see that 02:09:17.840 --> 02:09:19.840 And if it's a good question 02:09:20.000 --> 02:09:25.600 They can just update the information that the village is putting out there that to respond to that question 02:09:26.240 --> 02:09:32.320 Um, but again, you're controlling your your set you're putting your message on 02:09:34.160 --> 02:09:38.480 On the the internet you're not putting somebody else's message on the internet 02:09:42.560 --> 02:09:44.560 No, let me 02:09:47.200 --> 02:09:50.800 Um, I don't think i have any questions. I just wanted to give my 02:09:52.000 --> 02:09:55.520 Two cents after evaluating everything and hearing some of the discussion. I 02:09:57.200 --> 02:09:59.200 I guess I feel like 02:09:59.200 --> 02:10:03.760 There's value in having that forum be available on engage to forest 02:10:04.320 --> 02:10:06.960 My understanding is that part of the purpose of that 02:10:07.840 --> 02:10:14.960 Site or that page was not just to be one-way information but to be an engagement tool with the community and so I feel like having 02:10:15.680 --> 02:10:21.760 Um, the public comment piece there is important and it is what it is if you open it up for public 02:10:22.320 --> 02:10:27.600 People, you know people to give comments. They're going to give comments and it is what it is. Whatever's there is there 02:10:28.240 --> 02:10:33.440 Um, so i'm in favor. I guess of just keeping it how it is. I would say for larger 02:10:33.840 --> 02:10:35.440 Um 02:10:35.440 --> 02:10:41.920 Things that have more public interest like looking back at the fluoride posts from like when it was first discussed 02:10:42.080 --> 02:10:49.920 There were like 200 plus comments or something. That's a lot to digest and so I do feel there's value in staff like reviewing 02:10:51.120 --> 02:10:59.120 Constructive feedback and providing a report of like of these 200 comments. Here's like some constructive feedback we got that we're taking into consideration just 02:11:00.400 --> 02:11:02.400 As a tool to help the board 02:11:02.880 --> 02:11:09.520 But I I agree with just leaving it how it is and having you know people be able to engage with it how it is 02:11:13.680 --> 02:11:15.680 Yeah 02:11:18.000 --> 02:11:20.000 I'd say my 02:11:20.800 --> 02:11:25.600 Say upbringing and it has always been for the transparency and I understand 02:11:26.320 --> 02:11:31.200 I can agree with bill. There's a whole lot of different definitions of a transparency is 02:11:32.000 --> 02:11:34.000 but for myself, it's 02:11:34.720 --> 02:11:42.320 I want people to see you what's commenting the the thing that I struggle with and I guess I don't I haven't been 02:11:42.720 --> 02:11:46.480 I'm engaged to force and all the structure of the chat here 02:11:47.760 --> 02:11:49.920 But what I could see is 02:11:49.920 --> 02:11:55.200 I don't want somebody to put a comment up and then you have a reply and then reply to that reply 02:11:55.840 --> 02:11:58.320 I wonder if we can keep it as a single string 02:11:59.200 --> 02:12:02.800 So I mean people can reply but at least it's 02:12:04.080 --> 02:12:05.360 not 02:12:05.360 --> 02:12:12.000 Knacking down is that I see Gavin you're nodding ahead, but I don't know the way of the tool or is that way? 02:12:12.400 --> 02:12:17.040 Yeah, so that's that's the other option with the forum tool. It can't be set to be threaded or 02:12:17.840 --> 02:12:24.240 What's the is it flat? Yeah, sickly flat or threaded so flat allows comments posted. They're there 02:12:25.120 --> 02:12:31.680 Um, like bill and l mentioned people can use their most comment to say I'm replying to this, right? 02:12:32.320 --> 02:12:37.680 That would just be something that comes with that decision. Um, if we wanted to remove the use of 02:12:38.080 --> 02:12:44.080 Threaded which is where you're getting reply to reply to reply. That would be a separate policy that we would bring before 02:12:44.880 --> 02:12:46.880 But it is it is an option 02:12:47.920 --> 02:12:50.080 I could see that being a good outcome, but 02:12:50.800 --> 02:12:57.040 Just because you're you're still gonna see every comment people could like you said sort of create a thread by saying 02:12:57.120 --> 02:12:59.920 I'm replying to that question, but at least it's all there 02:13:01.040 --> 02:13:08.000 I feel it's important for the the public to be able to go up there and see it just as if the village board would 02:13:08.880 --> 02:13:09.680 um 02:13:09.680 --> 02:13:15.440 I'm sort of questioning some of the maybe the policies that we've been doing because what I'm hearing is 02:13:16.160 --> 02:13:20.160 Say if it's a maybe it's a planning and zoning matter that's got some 02:13:20.880 --> 02:13:22.880 statute behind it then we don't 02:13:23.280 --> 02:13:24.640 have any 02:13:24.640 --> 02:13:26.720 comment section is that what I'm hearing 02:13:27.440 --> 02:13:29.920 Is this more or less posted as information? 02:13:32.320 --> 02:13:37.760 Yeah, so currently um as developments come in we're putting the information out there 02:13:38.320 --> 02:13:42.480 Um, but we don't have any any forums available for 02:13:43.200 --> 02:13:48.240 discussion on development items within engaged a forest 02:13:50.800 --> 02:13:53.360 Does that make sense? Yep, that makes sense but 02:13:55.440 --> 02:13:57.040 That 02:13:57.040 --> 02:14:03.920 I guess right now you're drawing the line at development. Yeah, I just don't know how well first and foremost there are 02:14:04.560 --> 02:14:06.560 processes in place 02:14:06.560 --> 02:14:09.200 um to provide public engagement 02:14:09.600 --> 02:14:10.960 um 02:14:10.960 --> 02:14:18.720 That has management we feel that it's more productive, right? So public information meetings open houses 02:14:19.520 --> 02:14:21.520 uh public hearing etc 02:14:21.840 --> 02:14:25.600 We believe that that in regards to understanding the full 02:14:26.960 --> 02:14:32.080 Process for um and decision points for development makes more sense 02:14:32.800 --> 02:14:34.320 on the other side of that 02:14:34.320 --> 02:14:41.920 We have very limited resources here in regards to to responding to what we anticipate 02:14:42.480 --> 02:14:44.800 Will be the numerous questions that would come 02:14:45.440 --> 02:14:50.960 um in the back and forth that would be involved in engaging on 02:14:52.000 --> 02:14:54.000 each individual project 02:14:54.080 --> 02:15:00.080 Now if there's questions that we're receiving in general about you know a particular project 02:15:00.640 --> 02:15:04.720 What we prefer to do is to update the engaged the forest site 02:15:05.280 --> 02:15:08.400 If up with the relevant and updated information 02:15:09.200 --> 02:15:15.520 Um, so that's just kind of the strategy that we've we've taken in regards to putting information out there on development 02:15:18.240 --> 02:15:20.400 Okay, thank you and I guess 02:15:21.360 --> 02:15:26.400 If I would default I would default to having more information out there and more commenting 02:15:27.040 --> 02:15:31.600 I do like the idea of keeping that say flat rather than threading 02:15:32.640 --> 02:15:34.160 and I guess 02:15:34.160 --> 02:15:40.800 It sort of goes maybe to a little bit of like operating as a board or even like rabbits rules of order type things 02:15:42.240 --> 02:15:45.040 That when the public is out there talking to us as a board 02:15:45.040 --> 02:15:53.920 They're supposed to be talking to the board not to the other person that talked before or the other person that's sitting behind them in the room 02:15:54.640 --> 02:15:56.080 So to me 02:15:56.080 --> 02:15:57.520 Maybe that's 02:15:57.520 --> 02:16:03.120 Way I would present it as like you're you're talking you're questioning and say the village or whatever you're 02:16:03.520 --> 02:16:08.000 Talking about that proposal. You shouldn't be talking about the other individuals that 02:16:08.400 --> 02:16:10.320 Was it in the thread? 02:16:10.320 --> 02:16:17.520 I know we can't necessarily stop that but maybe that's a bit of a disclaimer that we put out there too is like the please 02:16:18.160 --> 02:16:20.160 e courteous 02:16:20.400 --> 02:16:22.400 I think that's about all I have to say 02:16:24.800 --> 02:16:25.760 I 02:16:25.760 --> 02:16:28.720 Anyone else I can't see 02:16:29.040 --> 02:16:31.040 Jan 02:16:31.520 --> 02:16:35.120 I guess, you know, I'm gonna echo a lot of what has already been said here 02:16:35.760 --> 02:16:38.880 I think that we developed this engage site 02:16:39.600 --> 02:16:46.560 um to not give just one eight way information but to engage with the residents or then allow them to do so 02:16:47.360 --> 02:16:48.880 so 02:16:48.880 --> 02:16:51.520 I don't know that we should really change anything 02:16:52.240 --> 02:16:54.960 Um, and I guess that's just my my thoughts 02:16:58.560 --> 02:17:01.280 Okay, does Alicia have anything to say 02:17:02.560 --> 02:17:07.280 I think I echo everybody else's sentiments as well. So I feel that it's 02:17:08.000 --> 02:17:11.440 Pretty much not to just repeat, but it is a tool for engagement 02:17:12.080 --> 02:17:18.080 Um, I just scrolled briefly just to look at some of the you know forums that are up. There's not a lot 02:17:18.800 --> 02:17:20.800 I didn't know if there's like 02:17:21.360 --> 02:17:27.520 One question once we have a forum up is there a time limit on it because uh some of the comments go back quite a 02:17:28.240 --> 02:17:30.080 while like 02:17:30.080 --> 02:17:32.560 Um, but other than that, that's it's all I am 02:17:35.200 --> 02:17:37.920 Yeah, so generally if a project there's a 02:17:39.040 --> 02:17:41.200 End date on it. We'll close out the project 02:17:41.840 --> 02:17:44.880 If it continues to remain open for example the 02:17:45.600 --> 02:17:50.320 Wildlife management uh program that we have we'll leave that commenting hoping open 02:17:51.360 --> 02:17:53.360 So 02:17:56.800 --> 02:17:58.800 Okay, Jim 02:18:00.160 --> 02:18:06.480 I guess I just question if you got what you needed to create a policy or is there something in front of us 02:18:07.120 --> 02:18:13.840 That could be action. Yeah, it sounds like there's general concurrence and direction for the for the staff to 02:18:14.560 --> 02:18:19.120 Move from a threaded open forum format to just a flat version 02:18:19.920 --> 02:18:21.680 um, otherwise 02:18:21.680 --> 02:18:28.080 Sounds like you're okay without a policy and currently we just we default to the the standard 02:18:28.960 --> 02:18:30.960 social point 02:18:31.280 --> 02:18:33.280 Policy in regards to 02:18:33.680 --> 02:18:35.280 um, you know 02:18:35.280 --> 02:18:39.840 Types of tools to be utilized. There's not parameters per se 02:18:40.480 --> 02:18:43.840 On when to use a tool for which project 02:18:44.400 --> 02:18:49.120 I think you'll find that that's even more complicated than that in this discussion here 02:18:49.760 --> 02:18:51.280 um 02:18:51.280 --> 02:18:55.840 But it sounds like we'll continue to do that and as we build capacity into our staff 02:18:56.320 --> 02:19:01.360 Well, we'll look to be to add more opportunities for engagement on the website 02:19:04.400 --> 02:19:06.400 Do we have any public appearances? 02:19:09.680 --> 02:19:11.680 Okay, so 02:19:12.480 --> 02:19:18.880 What solution adapting the village of the forest engaged to forest public engagement tool policy 02:19:19.680 --> 02:19:24.800 That's kind of a point. Yeah, so you can either hold it down or you can 02:19:25.680 --> 02:19:29.040 Let it die I guess without a without a first and without a motion 02:19:31.760 --> 02:19:35.600 Is there a motion to approve resolution 2026 all 96 02:19:35.600 --> 02:19:44.640 There is no motion resolution fails for lack of a motion 02:19:47.440 --> 02:19:50.960 New business resolution 2026 097 02:19:51.760 --> 02:19:56.240 Resolution accepting the lowest qualified bids and awarding a contract for well number seven 02:19:56.800 --> 02:19:58.640 Test well and aquifer testing 02:19:59.200 --> 02:20:01.040 Judd and 02:20:01.040 --> 02:20:03.040 Right. It was in the packet 02:20:03.360 --> 02:20:05.360 It was in the packet 02:20:05.440 --> 02:20:07.840 Uh, I can answer questions first, I guess 02:20:08.240 --> 02:20:12.000 No, I wanted to make a point with Gavin. I say thank you for 02:20:12.240 --> 02:20:15.040 writing your first policy and you're a little bit of what a 02:20:15.440 --> 02:20:17.440 Us Barb they got the 02:20:17.440 --> 02:20:22.560 Ball thrown to him for the first pass so you get your first policy. Yeah, it's the fail 02:20:22.800 --> 02:20:27.280 Yeah, I was not I was not laughing at the fail. I was I was smirking at Stacy 02:20:27.280 --> 02:20:31.200 So this was this was really valuable and I appreciate all the all the comments. Thank you 02:20:32.000 --> 02:20:34.000 So 02:20:37.440 --> 02:20:41.600 Going back to the resolution for the awarding the bid for the 02:20:42.320 --> 02:20:45.600 Fast well for number seven. Well, it's number seven 02:20:46.560 --> 02:20:50.320 Um, we got one bid for Sam's well drilling for 02:20:51.680 --> 02:20:53.680 $247,140 02:20:53.760 --> 02:20:56.160 Looking for approval to get that test 02:20:57.360 --> 02:20:59.120 Or well tested 02:20:59.120 --> 02:21:01.120 Test well drilled. All right 02:21:02.080 --> 02:21:03.520 Jim 02:21:03.520 --> 02:21:05.520 I'll make a motion to approve 02:21:06.160 --> 02:21:07.120 resolution 02:21:07.120 --> 02:21:09.120 2026 097 02:21:10.800 --> 02:21:12.720 We have a motion by Jim. Is there a second 02:21:13.440 --> 02:21:17.120 Second second by Wayne. Do we have any public appearances on the scale? 02:21:18.720 --> 02:21:20.720 Okay, great 02:21:21.120 --> 02:21:22.880 Question bird 02:21:22.880 --> 02:21:26.720 Yeah, I was surprised there was only one bit or is there just not many contractors who do this work 02:21:27.280 --> 02:21:31.360 Uh, I know there was several that we reached out to three or four 02:21:31.840 --> 02:21:35.760 Companies that we reached out to I don't know if they're just busy and if I didn't want to do it 02:21:37.920 --> 02:21:42.080 Yeah, there's a few bit holders, but four or five bit holders, but that was 02:21:42.640 --> 02:21:44.560 Well, yeah, one of the bid 02:21:44.560 --> 02:21:49.680 And then I think when you presented this the last time you talked about how if everything checks out well 02:21:50.400 --> 02:21:53.600 Then they'll they'll dig a new one at a different area 02:21:54.400 --> 02:21:58.640 That would be permanent. Is that part of this bid or is that stuff? Okay, this is separate 02:21:59.120 --> 02:22:03.520 So they'll do the test well this year if all goes well 02:22:04.080 --> 02:22:11.200 Um, and you guys passed the budget for next year. That's incorporated in the capital improvement plan for next year is the new well 02:22:13.760 --> 02:22:18.560 Okay, we have a motion by Jim the second by Wayne all those in favor of resolution 02:22:18.560 --> 02:22:21.600 2026 dash 097 indicate by saying aye 02:22:22.640 --> 02:22:24.640 All those opposed no 02:22:25.200 --> 02:22:27.200 motion carries unanimously 02:22:27.520 --> 02:22:34.960 resolution 2026 098 a resolution approving a collateral assignment of development agreement and municipal revenue 02:22:35.120 --> 02:22:38.480 obligation for the tdc deforest 02:22:39.840 --> 02:22:41.840 Five llc development 02:22:43.440 --> 02:22:46.080 Bill Chang yeah, so a couple of weeks ago the village 02:22:46.720 --> 02:22:51.440 Board approved a development agreement with tdc five tdc deforest five 02:22:52.560 --> 02:22:55.600 for the industrial spec development on 02:22:56.400 --> 02:22:58.400 uh, keep parkway 02:22:58.480 --> 02:23:03.360 Along with that development agreement where parameters and requirements obligations 02:23:03.920 --> 02:23:08.160 We're not only construction but having to do with tax equipment financing 02:23:08.800 --> 02:23:10.800 in the parameters for which 02:23:10.800 --> 02:23:12.800 developer would receive financing 02:23:13.680 --> 02:23:18.400 Um as part of their finances part of their their financing or construction loan 02:23:19.200 --> 02:23:21.600 parameters with tri-city national bank 02:23:22.240 --> 02:23:25.600 um, there is an agreement between the two parties to 02:23:26.560 --> 02:23:28.560 assign collateral 02:23:29.040 --> 02:23:32.960 of the development agreement and municipal revenue obligation to 02:23:33.680 --> 02:23:39.040 Uh, tri-city national bank in the case of default of that construction loan 02:23:39.760 --> 02:23:42.880 And so this is a tool to secure that financing 02:23:43.760 --> 02:23:48.000 um interview of that, uh, you know, and I have um 02:23:48.960 --> 02:23:51.440 We don't have an objection to this 02:23:52.080 --> 02:23:54.080 um 02:23:54.080 --> 02:24:00.160 tdc deforest five would still be obligated to construct and still be obligated to provide the guarantees 02:24:00.880 --> 02:24:06.480 In a case that they do not meet those obligations the village would not would not then pay 02:24:07.280 --> 02:24:13.360 And tdc would be a default of that agreement. Therefore no payment to tri-city national bank 02:24:14.160 --> 02:24:17.680 And so I'll leave it at that now you have anything else to say 02:24:18.480 --> 02:24:22.400 It's a collateral assignment of the agreements like this is common in commercial 02:24:23.600 --> 02:24:24.640 construction 02:24:24.640 --> 02:24:29.520 Um, but one of the things that this does is it gives the bank the ability if it gets into a 02:24:29.920 --> 02:24:35.120 Proclosure situation to take over the development get another developer and it finished the project 02:24:35.120 --> 02:24:38.640 So actually I see this as a benefit to the village because 02:24:39.680 --> 02:24:46.720 Your goal is to get this development done. This provides a backup source of of getting it done in the event of it default 02:24:49.040 --> 02:24:51.040 Any public appearances 02:24:51.040 --> 02:24:53.040 No public appearances 02:24:53.520 --> 02:24:59.920 Is there a motion to approve 2026 0 0 9 8 motion to approve motion by janitor second 02:25:01.920 --> 02:25:03.920 I'll second 02:25:04.640 --> 02:25:06.640 Discussion 02:25:08.640 --> 02:25:15.200 All those in favor indicate by saying aye aye aye all those opposed no motion carries unanimously 02:25:16.720 --> 02:25:18.720 Convene in the closed session 02:25:19.040 --> 02:25:24.640 Deliberating and negotiating terms for the 2027 2028 collective bargaining agreement 02:25:25.120 --> 02:25:29.520 Between the village of the forest and the deforest professional police association 02:25:30.480 --> 02:25:38.080 Okay, chief holes. Yeah, so as previously reported the union dppa 02:25:39.520 --> 02:25:45.840 Which is the deforest professional police association and represents all union PD officers 02:25:47.120 --> 02:25:49.120 hourly employees hourly 02:25:50.560 --> 02:25:52.160 Officers 02:25:52.160 --> 02:25:54.160 We opened up negotiation 02:25:54.240 --> 02:25:56.240 About a month ago now 02:25:56.240 --> 02:26:01.520 We had our first meeting with that group and negotiated through initial terms 02:26:02.400 --> 02:26:05.040 We did not leave with a tentative agreement 02:26:05.680 --> 02:26:11.040 And currently are set up for our second round of negotiation at the end of the month here 02:26:11.920 --> 02:26:19.520 So it's our recommendation that the board moves into closed session to discuss the current proposed terms 02:26:20.720 --> 02:26:22.720 And so we can continue negotiation 02:26:22.960 --> 02:26:28.480 Um, there is no action coming out of closed session. Um, we would like to get 02:26:30.640 --> 02:26:31.600 Um 02:26:31.600 --> 02:26:37.920 Understand where you are in regards to the proposals and uh parameters for us to bring back to the 02:26:38.640 --> 02:26:40.640 negotiation 02:26:44.720 --> 02:26:48.800 Uh, the village board may convene into closed session is authorized by wisconsin statute 02:26:48.800 --> 02:26:51.360 19.8 by paren one paren e 02:26:51.920 --> 02:26:57.680 Where the purpose of deliberating or negotiating the purpose the purchasing of public properties 02:26:57.680 --> 02:27:05.200 The investing of public funds or conducting other specified public business will never compare to different bargaining reasons require a closed session 02:27:05.760 --> 02:27:12.400 The village board may reconvene in open session and for you to discuss the subject matter discussed in closed session 02:27:13.280 --> 02:27:15.280 Uh, is there a motion to go into closed 02:27:16.080 --> 02:27:18.080 Jim 02:27:18.880 --> 02:27:21.920 I guess before I make that motion that go on to close 02:27:21.920 --> 02:27:28.240 I wonder if there's any say broad strokes that you want to share to the public before that 02:27:30.080 --> 02:27:34.000 I'd prefer we just do everything in close at this point because there's no agreement said anything 02:27:35.680 --> 02:27:37.680 I would make a motion to go on to close 02:27:38.160 --> 02:27:40.880 Second motion by jim second by jan 02:27:41.520 --> 02:27:44.320 You're going to close session all those in favor and to keep it saying aye 02:27:45.120 --> 02:27:47.120 Oh 02:27:48.800 --> 02:27:50.800 Kelly roll call please 02:27:52.960 --> 02:27:56.400 Trustee bardoff. Hi. Trustee brown 02:27:58.080 --> 02:28:00.080 Trustee cords 02:28:00.160 --> 02:28:02.160 Trustee simpson. I 02:28:02.160 --> 02:28:04.160 Trustee stephanagan, huh? Hi 02:28:04.720 --> 02:28:06.720 Trustee williams. Hi 02:28:07.360 --> 02:28:09.360 resident little i 02:28:10.880 --> 02:28:12.880 7-0 02:28:15.280 --> 02:28:17.280 Gavin 02:28:38.960 --> 02:28:41.520 Okay, we're back in open session again 02:28:42.480 --> 02:28:46.800 action resulting from our closed session is no action 02:28:48.560 --> 02:28:50.560 Communications a check register 02:29:05.200 --> 02:29:07.200 Hi alisha can you hear us? 02:29:11.840 --> 02:29:15.360 Do you have to unmute or something? 02:29:34.960 --> 02:29:40.560 All right, thank you. Sorry. I just had to come back out from the breakout sessions 02:29:40.640 --> 02:29:44.000 So I think you can hear us 02:29:45.760 --> 02:29:47.760 Good. Hi 02:29:52.800 --> 02:30:00.080 We're all set. Okay, we are out of clover session back in open and we have no action resulting from the closed session 02:30:01.520 --> 02:30:03.920 Communications the check register was in your packet 02:30:04.960 --> 02:30:07.360 Any other business that lawfully comes before the board? 02:30:07.760 --> 02:30:11.680 Seeing none. I would take a motion to adjourn 02:30:13.360 --> 02:30:15.360 Motion to adjourn 02:30:15.680 --> 02:30:17.680 motion by jans or second 02:30:18.160 --> 02:30:20.160 second seconded by bard 02:30:20.960 --> 02:30:25.440 All those in favor of adjournment indicate by saying aye. Aye. All those opposed. No 02:30:26.400 --> 02:30:29.360 Motion carries unanimously. We're adjourned at 833 02:30:31.440 --> 02:30:33.440 Thanks folks 02:30:37.360 --> 02:30:39.360 You