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to the flag of the United States of America

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and to the republic for Christ's hands,

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one nation of the God,

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indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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All right, the next item is public comment

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and I just want to inform those here.

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This is public comment for anything

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that you wish to talk about.

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I know that there's a number of people

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that are signed up for public comment

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as it relates to the public hearing.

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The ZMA 26-02 will hear from you at the time

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that that business is in front of the board,

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which is a little further into our program here tonight.

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Signed up for public hearing on anything

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is Rachel Kirschner.

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If you could bring yourself up

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and share your thoughts, name and address, please.

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All right, good evening.

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My name is Rachel Kirschner.

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I live at 2613 136 Avenue in the town of Paris.

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I'm here tonight because Mount Pleasant

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has forgotten what it means to be a good neighbor.

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Good neighbors don't approve massive industrial projects

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that affect surrounding communities

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like Surtivin and Summers.

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And then expect everyone else to live

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with the consequences.

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The Microsoft Data Center Campus is unlike anything

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this area has ever seen.

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Residents have raised concerns

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about noise and equality of life.

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I have personally experienced sensations in ear popping

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while driving by the facility on Saturday.

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The facility needs to be shut down

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until this infrasound sound is fixed.

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If it hasn't been shut down yet, this is not acceptable.

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And guess what?

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You're not only affecting Summers and Surtivin residents.

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You're also affecting Paris, Kenosha,

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Union Grove and Summers again.

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In fact, the entire Milwaukee, Chicago corridor,

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Red Oak owned by Anavir G,

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wants to build a massive 1.2 gigabyte

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gigawatt natural gas plant

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to support Microsoft data centers in the town of Paris.

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That's why I'm here.

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That should concern everyone in this room.

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You're going to all breathe this polluted air

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because Microsoft wants and needs a lot of electricity to run.

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One industrial project leads to another.

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First comes the data center, then comes the gas plant,

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then comes more transmission infrastructure,

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more industrialization, more noise, more impacts

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on neighboring communities.

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At what point do you say enough is enough?

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You call this economic development.

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Many of us see it as sacrificing our communities.

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So one of the world's richest corporations

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can continue expanding.

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Mount Pleasant may receive the tax revenue,

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but your neighbors are being asked to accept its impacts.

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That is not being a good neighbor.

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People deserve leaders willing to protect residents

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and neighbors just as strong as they

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protect corporate investments.

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Please stop treating neighboring communities

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as acceptable collateral damage for your pursuit

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for the next billion dollar project.

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It's time to put people first before profits.

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So in everything, do others what you would do,

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have them do to you.

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Thank you.

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Anybody else?

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Public comment?

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OK, not hearing from anybody.

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We'll close public comment and we'll move on

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to the concerned agenda.

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Mr. President, I make a motion to approve the items

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and consent agenda excluding item number six,

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assignment of municipal revenue obligation

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bond pursuant to 10 number two development agreements.

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Second.

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Motion and second.

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All favor signify by saying aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Then that matter passes.

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Mr. President, I just need to make a note to the clerk.

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I need to recuse myself from item F1 on the consent agenda.

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I wasn't president to me.

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Thank you.

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Good?

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OK.

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So under new business, we have ordinance number seven dash 2026,

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which is brown road, oak road, comprehensive plan agreement,

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CPA26-1, public hearing regarding ordinance seven dash 2026.

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So regarding public hearings, following a brief presentation

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by staff, I'll open the public hearing.

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If you wish to speak, please fill out a public hearing

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form, which is on the table near the entrance.

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Once recognized, speakers should come to the podium

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and identify themselves with their name and address.

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Please speak clearly into the microphone.

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Speakers must direct all discussions towards the board.

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I will not allow interchange between members of the audience

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and the petitioner.

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We request that you not interfere with, nor interject

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comments while another person has the floor.

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This is to ensure respectful and orderly process.

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Please keep all comments on the particular item

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before the board, and at most five minutes.

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Finally, to ensure a focused and productive hearing,

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please turn off or mute all electronic devices.

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Thank you, Mr. President.

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So this is a complaint amendment for the brown road and Oaks

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Road, the future Oaks Road connection.

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First off, I would like to kind of preemptively apologize

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for my rather crude visualization there.

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This is why I'm a planner and not an engineer.

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But it is a fairly accurate representation

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of what the different developments are,

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and stacking the plats on top of each other

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would look even more confusing.

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So this is basically an amendment

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to the transportation element of the multi-jurisdictional

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compliance, so it doesn't touch land use or anything

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like that.

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The applicant wishes to reconfigure the roadways

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to match their future preliminary plan,

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so that is the bare development on the left side

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of the map, which is at the bottom of it is the circle.

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Furthermore, the comprehensive plan update

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will delete unneeded connections, such as a bridge

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across the Pike River that are no longer feasible.

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It will also incorporate the Villages Brown Road

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reconstruction project with a roundabout at Brown and Oaks

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Road, an indication that there will not

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be sidewalk on a portion of the north side of Brown Road,

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as discussed in the village board.

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And establishing this in the comp plan

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kind of enshrines that as you guys' recommendation,

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as well as it also incorporates a proposed road layout

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for the Cardinal Capital development, which

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is two parcels over, and one that aligns with the road network

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as it comes out of the bare development one.

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So this is basically a transportation element

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that matches all of those together so they play nice.

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It is very hard to see from back here,

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but I do have a yellow box around the intersection

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of Brown Road and what would be the Cardinal Capital

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development.

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That is development and TIA, which

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is a traffic impact analysis dependent intersection.

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So what they would recommend depends on both the developer

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and the TIA.

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Right now, the only TIA we have is for the Brown Road

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development, and it assumes a connection of Biscayne

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Avenue, which is probably not likely for a very long time.

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So with that being said, that is the essential of it,

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is that it would be adopting this,

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as well as the Villages Brown Road Reconstruction Project

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plan, which includes a multi-use transportation bike

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path on the south side and known sidewalk on the north side,

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as well as adopting these plans as approved.

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There's also significant portions that remain the same,

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such as the Yates Road extension and connection,

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and the Biscayne connection that goes across the development.

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Those are consistent among the current transportation

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plan and the future one.

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One other clarification.

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The address for this is 5-7-1-4.

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So I got some interesting comments

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thinking that it was for the other side of Brown.

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No, it's for the one that's closest to Pike River.

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OK.

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So regarding ordinance 7-2026 and CPA 26-1,

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I don't know that I have anybody signed up for this,

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but I have to open the public hearing relative to that.

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Those that I have signed up are for ZMA-226.

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That would be what, for Emerson?

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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I've got one for this.

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Awesome.

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I've got somebody signed up for CPA 26-2.

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That's the next one.

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Yeah, Emerson.

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Just turn that in.

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OK.

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Yeah.

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Can we hear from Matt?

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Matt Kramer.

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Matt Kramer, 7202 Brown Road.

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We are at the property, as Robin puts it,

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who is in the path of three roadways

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to play nice between the two developments.

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And I just want to share with everybody.

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You all probably already know that we weren't consulted

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at all in regards to this plan.

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The village puts a plan together that puts roadways

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across our family's farm with no input from us.

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So consider the fairness, consider the cooperation,

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and the lack of servitude from our local government

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in doing so.

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It's not very American.

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It doesn't stand for our values very well, in my opinion,

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to put a plan together, incorporating someone else's

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private property, and give them no input on what's

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going to be done with that property.

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That's all I got.

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Anybody else?

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Nobody else signed up for that particular one.

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So that being the case, we'll close public comment

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regarding that.

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And is there a motion?

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Oh, no motion necessary.

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This and other comp plans will go to next.

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They go to plan commission to be where a recommendation is

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drafted, a resolution is drafted, which

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comes back to the village board for an ordinance approval.

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OK, so we'll close the public hearing on that.

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We'll go to the next public hearing,

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which is ordinance 8-2026, 630 Emerson Road,

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comp plan amendment, CPA 26-2.

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Again, I need to hear from staff on that,

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and then we'll go back to the public hearing.

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Robin.

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OK.

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So I'm going to just see it a little bit.

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So the action is lined in the village

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and the part of the transportation element of multi-year

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to build a complex accounting.

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That's input is the reason that you're

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growing the match to be.

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Are you mic'd up?

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I am not mic'd up.

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Sometimes it's hard to tell because I'm just kind of loud.

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So thank you.

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So this is ordinance 8-2026 for 630 Emerson Road

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comp plan amendment.

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The applicant applied to amend the transportation element.

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The applicant wishes to reconfigure the road's ways

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to match the lineage's state's preliminary plat, PSP 26-1,

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and also specify which roads which would provide access

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to Emerson Road.

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The village staff has requested an added additional neighboring

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amendments to this application to remove some

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of the neighboring proposed roadways

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to reflect their final location.

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So in particular, this one had two connections,

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both one east and one west that went through houses.

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It was a very old plat plan that was proposed.

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This one also solidifies that the connection to Emerson

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would be to the south through Kinsey.

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And at the plan commission, we discussed specifically

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whether or not to require that access further north,

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giving the sort of property control issues.

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There's also a connection to explore a drive

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to the immediate south.

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I have been contacted by a representative, the son-in-law,

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of the owner of that property that

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says that she is interested in potentially selling

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the back half of that to ensure that connection

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in the future.

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So that eliminates one of the main issues

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that we had when we were talking about this,

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but the fact that it was going to have only one connection

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and that's for a long time.

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So the other one is just basically filling out portions

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that already existed on our transportation plan, connecting

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Kinsey to Emerson.

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The existing one had four connections in the stretch,

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and that was too much.

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So this complaint is just pretty much figuring out

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which ones to connect and how to do that.

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It also rounds out the connection to King's view

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into sort of like a cul-de-sac that was essentially

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before an up and then a right angle.

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All the roads here are basically development dependent.

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So it's under control of the property owner,

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whether or not that gets built.

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It's just whenever a development comes in

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from that property owner, we have

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something that's on paper saying that this is

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what the public connections we would like to.

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Certain localities, I could think of Brookfield

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has tried to impose roadway connections

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that weren't on paper, and they lost that in court.

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So we need to have them on paper

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in order to ever ask them of anybody.

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So that's why we do this.

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And that is pretty much it.

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This is just the transportation element.

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It is not the zoning, which is a different public hearing.

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Okay, so let's go to the public comment part of this.

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Same rules apply five minutes.

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I've got Ben Barron signed up.

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Mr. Barron.

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If you'd like to come up, give us your thoughts.

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Ben Barron, 720 son of you drive.

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And I'd like to address the proposal

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of the zoning amendment map ZMA-26-02,

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and along with it kind of ties together

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in my mind with the comprehensive road map.

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The concern that we have is not specifically

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with the proposed subdivision,

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but the current proposal has,

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even they have an extending west from Emerson,

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directly into explore drive, which ends at son of you.

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This road would become a shortcut to sunny slope.

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It'd be a lot more traffic.

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It kind of ruined our quiet little area.

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We have them all pleasant.

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And on a personal note, concern would be,

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is that road would go directly into our property.

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So I'm concerned it'd be a race way from Emerson,

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all the way right to my front yard.

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So we're kind of, we'd really encourage

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a reconsideration on that road.

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Could something be done either with altering Haven

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or altering explore just to alleviate that issue?

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That's all I got.

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Thank you.

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Anybody else have signed up for this?

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Okay.

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I just wanted to add that the current

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that is like a good current proposed road.

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You want to make yourself back up again?

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Okay, sorry.

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That is a current, that is on the proposed road layer

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as it is right now, and so that has been heard

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and I'll take that forward, so thank you.

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So that's the current one, it has that mapped on there.

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So it's probably from a long time ago, so thank you.

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Okay.

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There being nobody else wanting to speak on this,

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we can close public comment on that,

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and I don't need any motion on this one either then.

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So let's move on to Ordnance 5-2026,

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Zoning Map Amendment for Emerson Road,

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and Green Valley Drive, ZMA.

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26-2, back to Robin.

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All right, thanks.

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I got under a lot of talking,

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so I'm going to speed up this one to everybody's delight.

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So this is ZMA-2602, this concerns the same parcel

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of land for, that we just considered for the comp plan,

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and it also matches the subdivision SPP-26001,

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linear to states.

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The rezone is from AG1 Limited Agriculture to RL,

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which is low density residential,

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and that matches with the comprehensive plan,

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and it also matches with almost all of the properties

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around there.

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So the, like pale banana yellow is AG1, I believe,

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and the bright yellow is RL.

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So all the residential subdivisions are RL in this area,

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until you get further down towards Kinsey,

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where they get a little bit more dense.

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This is for 11.73 acres.

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This rezone proposal is accompanied by a subdivision plait,

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and they are paired together,

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because in order to get RL lots, you have to subdivide it.

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That subdivision plait has 22 lots with duplex condos,

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much like the ones that are to the north.

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So this is consistent with the comp plan,

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and that came out of our playing commission

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as a recommendation for approval.

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There was discussion kind of in tandem

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with the subdivision plait about construction access

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and access in general,

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but the zoning was non-controversial,

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and we went to the subdivision plait,

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so those are separate issues.

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That's it?

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Oh, yeah, well, that,

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both the playing commission and staff recommend approval,

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and yeah, that's generally it.

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This matches everything around it,

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and the comprehensive plan.

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I told you I was trying to keep it short.

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Okay, thank you.

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So let's open up public hearing regarding this one.

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Again, same rules apply.

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I have two people signed up for this,

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if I could hear from Lynn Byer.

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Is that the correct pronunciation?

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And when you get up to the podium,

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name and address for the record.

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My name's Lynn Byer, 6235, King's View Drive.

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I'm here tonight representing the

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doesn't create condo association,

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and we respectfully request clarification

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on several items before construction begins.

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Our primary concerns are clarification

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regarding the temporary construction access road

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from Emerson Road.

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Will this road be used for all phases of construction,

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including road sewers, utilities, and building construction?

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Next residents are concerned that heavy construction equipment

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and material deliveries could be routed

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through existing neighborhood streets,

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causing unnecessary traffic, safety concerns,

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and damage to the private roads within our community,

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our condominium community.

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Information regarding the anticipated construction schedule

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and colluding the phases of development

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and established timeline for,

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or estimated timeline for completion.

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We respectfully request that the approved

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construction documents specifically require,

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number one, that all construction traffic,

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heavy equipment, contractors, and material deliveries

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utilize the designated construction entrance

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from Emerson Road throughout the project.

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Number two, the construction traffic

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cannot be permitted to travel through Hilltop Drive,

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Kingsview Drive, and Green Valley Drive.

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Number three, the construction documents clearly state

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that the quail point and Partridge Hill are private roads

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and are not to be used for construction traffic.

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Including these requirements in the construction documents

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will help provide our private roads,

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improve safety, and minimize disruption during construction.

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We appreciate your consideration

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and respectfully request clarification

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before final improvement and commencement of construction.

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Thank you.

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Appreciate your thoughts.

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Can we hear from Stephanie Thier?

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Name and address for the record.

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Hello, Stephanie Toyer, I live at 520 Green Valley Drive,

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which is at the end of the dead end.

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I'd like to convey some of the concerns

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for myself and neighbors, your constituents.

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We realize the land is going to be developed

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and there will be an access way

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to the subdivision from our street.

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Our concern is our street,

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which already goes to a subdivision,

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is going to be the only access point to this.

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We have heard over and over that it is acceptable

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to DOT standards.

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DOT approval is also the same decision makers

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who approve the working on Spring Street,

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making it a single lane while under construction

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and extremely difficult to get critically injured people

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to the emergency rooms.

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Another thing we keep hearing is,

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the DOT is bigger concern regarding traffic

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from Amazon, FedEx, and UPS trucks.

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Not the potential for additional 88 vehicles

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coming in and out of that way.

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Unfortunately, standards do not always take

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into account all of the variables,

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such as our subdivision and residents are older

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and are out walking, and unfortunately,

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more times than not have emergency vehicles

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going in and out of our area.

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One example of that is from a couple of years ago,

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the condo at the end of Green Valley Drive

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had their alarm system going off,

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to the point where others could hear it and called 911.

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I came home to find the street and my driveway blocked

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and I had emergency vehicles in my driveway,

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even though I was not the unit being involved.

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Luckily, this was a non-emergency

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and they were able to get in and turn off the alarm,

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but thinking back on this, if this was the incident

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where we had all of this develop where to happen,

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excuse me, all of those individuals would be stuck

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and the emergency vehicles would need to be cleared out

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for all of those individuals living in those 44 units

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to get passed.

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Let alone somebody needing emergency assistance there.

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Safety needs to come first.

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We need to have two ways in and out.

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I am asking you as trustees to take a minute

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and plan for today and for tomorrow

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to look out for the best interest

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of our current and future residents.

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Please table this until the owner, developers and village

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can devise a plan where they can have multiple entry points,

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not just in the building phase in the future

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or potentially purchasing lots in the future,

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but truly having true entry points on the plan

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that can be utilized immediately

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and when the development is done.

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Whether it's off Emerson or the landowner purchases

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or works out in Eastman with the parcel on Explorer.

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As a resident of Mount Pleasant,

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I am asking you as our elected trustees

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to take more time to analyze this development

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to provide multiple entrances

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to make sure the safety of our residents

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is first and foremost.

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Thank you so very much for your time.

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I appreciate your thoughts.

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Anybody else wanted to speak on this particular issue?

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I have nobody else signed up,

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so we can close public comment on that

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and then this one we do.

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How can we first have motion

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and then we'll open up to the board for discussion.

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Mr. President, I make a motion to ordinance,

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to move ordinance five days, 2026

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for a zoning map amendment on Emerson Road

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and Green Valley Drive as presented.

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Second.

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So I hear a motion and a second.

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Now we can open this up to the board for discussion.

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I imagine that some may have questions for Robin,

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given what has been brought up

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in terms of construction access and such things.

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I'd just like to remind everybody

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that this is a zoning piece of business

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in front of the board

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and we're a long ways away from construction.

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So, Gina, you would mention something.

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Robin, can we make a plan to have a different entrance

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so that all the traffic for the construction

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is not going through this area?

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I was in that neighborhood today and over the weekend

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and it is truly an older community.

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I mean, it's not a retirement community

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but it kind of feels like that.

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So, to me, and I drove every street,

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it would be, I think it would be very detrimental

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to the neighborhood if we didn't have

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another entrance on Emerson

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if it all had to go through these private roads.

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So is that something you can consider doing?

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That's actually girl's power actually and approving it.

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So if you have concerns about health, public safety,

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welfare, stuff like that and amending a plan

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or proposing conditions,

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you have the authority to place conditions

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on the approval of especially the subdivision plat

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as far as those concerns are.

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That is also why there was a condo plat amendment.

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We recommend we had a condition placed on

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that there be a private road route,

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private reservation for access along that 18 feet.

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So that wasn't transferred away from this property.

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So that is one of them.

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I do agree that access to explorers should be worked out

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and that one access is never ideal in the long form.

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However, Green Valley is the public road.

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So to say that, no, you can't use that road access

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for public purpose, which is to construct

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additional parts of that public road.

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I don't like that because it seems a little bit arbitrary.

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Spreading things out among the available accesses

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that exist, that's totally reasonable,

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especially considering if it overloads one particular thing

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and also that King's view was paved just last year.

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So we got new pavement on there and stuff like that.

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So we would like to prefer another method.

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If the developer wants to accommodate

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and use exclusively one other method, they can do that.

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Private roads are always private,

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like those are controlled by those owners

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and they would never be authorized to access those.

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Does that answer your question?

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Yeah, so what would be the next step to propose that

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so we have an alternate?

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So that would go on to the subdivision plot

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about construction access for that particular thing.

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As far as, I will add a little bit is that we've had

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some access issues for some other development

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and a garage that access Green Valley

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while the dead-end signs were up.

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I would like to say that that was not allowed

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and that violation has been assessed citation

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because you're not to remove dead-end signs

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without authorization.

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And currently there's no authorized project

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on that property.

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And I will go back to, when I mentioned

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that that 710 property was, they were open to selling it.

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They were also saying that construction traffic

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is not to access over that private property

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until it is sold.

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So that's just clarifying that until it's transferred

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then they can't access from explorer drive either.

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So, and long story short, those kinds of provisions

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about construction access will go

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on to the subdivision plot which is up next.

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Any other thoughts on the zoning part of it?

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Mr. President, again, I would have comment,

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but like Robin said, those discussion go on the plot.

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So I'll wait until that because this item

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is only for the rezoning.

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Okay, so in the matter of ordinance 5-2026,

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ZMA 26-2 regarding the zoning, ROCO.

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Caris.

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Ventrini.

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Aye.

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Batia.

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Aye.

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Washburn.

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Aye.

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Pollack.

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Aye.

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DeGroote.

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Aye.

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Motion carries.

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So the next item is discussion and motion regarding

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the lineage of states preliminary plat.

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5PP26-001, Emerson Road Green Valley Drive.

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Okay, I'm on a roll tonight, guys.

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All right, so this is 26-001.

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This is a subdivision plat for 11.616 acres.

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The current zoning is AG-1, but we've just approved

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a rezone to RL which is matching the zoning designation

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of all their surrounding properties.

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The applicant has submitted a preliminary plat

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to subdivide approximately 11.6 acres near South Emerson Road

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and Green Valley Drive into 22 residential lots

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and two out lots.

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Those out lots will contain the stormwater.

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The plat shows legacy lane and generation grow

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as new internal streets and the extension of Green Valley

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drive at the north edge of the subdivision.

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And the out lots wanted to have shown as fractionally owned

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by all of the owners and the maintenance assigned

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to the lineage states HOA, the village staff

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and the planning commission recommend approval

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of the subdivision plat.

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We also discussed at the subdivision extensively

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as far as the construction traffic issues

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which you guys have part extensively.

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And as far as traffic goes, that kind of goes

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with the comprehensive plat.

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44 units and so is not, residential is probably

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above agriculture as far as traffic generation,

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but it's the lowest on the list.

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It's Chick-fil-A drives 88 cars in 30 minutes.

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Residential is pretty much to go in and go out.

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We have larger, not that it was a smart idea,

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but some of the condos off of Wood Road

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and stuff like that have many more units off of one access.

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And the fire department does not generally like that.

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However, with proposed extensions and connections

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that can be mitigated at the point

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is to have those as a possibility.

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Let me kind of think of anything else.

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Oh, as far as the, a TIA, TIA's are only required

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for over 100 units.

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So at 44, TIA would not be required.

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These are all local access roads.

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So they would be much the same speed limit

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and size and shape as everything else in the subdivision

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and would have street trees, sidewalks,

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and street lamps at the intersections.

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Okay.

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Any thoughts from the trustees?

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Oh, let's get a motion on the table first.

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I'm sorry.

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Motion.

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Mr. President, I make a motion

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to prove the preliminary plot for a linear estate subject

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to the approval of the comprehensive plan amendment

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for 6.30.

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I'm at central.

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Second.

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So your motion to the second.

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Now.

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Mr. President, as we heard from the residents

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during the public hearing,

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and their major concern is the construction traffic.

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And Robin has already addressed that.

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And when we approved at the Planning Commission

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recommendation, we had the access from the Emerson Road.

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So, but I'm still going to ask Robin to help me

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maybe amend the motion or something.

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My point is, how can we put that in the approval process?

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The concern that we heard about the construction traffic.

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Because yes, I totally agree with that.

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Whether it's a king view drive or a green-mally road drive.

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These roads are not adequate for heavy equipment

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or the construction, so they have to come down.

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So my question to Robin is, and I help me understand,

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maybe I need to amend the motion,

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is how can we have that construction concern

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put that in the approval process?

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So any kind of subdivision plan

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will come with the development agreement

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that negotiates the construction of public improvements

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in the transfer over to the village.

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And that development agreement also shows up other things.

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A condition on access and whatnot

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would be very appropriate to show up

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in that development agreement.

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And as far as enforcing access and whatnot

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as far as within stages,

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we would probably need to have some kind of plan

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and access plan.

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This is a little bit outside of my wheelhouse.

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This is more like a clawed or deep W kind of thing

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as far as that, but I'm winging it here.

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Having some kind of specificity of like this phase,

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is this access for these properties, so on and so forth.

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You can get as specific as you want,

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but that would be the kind of mechanism in order to do that.

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Did you want to chime in on any of that,

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like as far as access agreements?

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I mean, as far as construction access,

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if it's decided on the plate that we want a specific access

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point to avoid traffic through the subdivision,

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that could certainly be enforced also

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through the construction plans if needed.

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So that's how it will be done.

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So it would be, I definitely see, you know,

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obviously with the concern as well as, you know,

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the fact that the road is new for at least there

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to be some splits and for construction traffic

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to make sense as divided.

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And when we heard it from the developer

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when these were being proposed at Plan Commission,

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they were really amenable to the additional access

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off of Emerson Road.

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We can't force a private property sale

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to do that connection to explore drive,

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but that is something that you guys can consider

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as whether or not it's necessary

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for this development as well.

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Robin, with our new audio, visual equipment

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and the ability for you to, you know,

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zip something from your laptop up to the screens,

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can you throw up like a GIS or a Google map

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of the subject property and the surrounding neighborhood

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because I've got it on my phone.

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And, you know, what I'm seeing is, you know,

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this isn't, it's a fairly significant subdivision,

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but it's an infill is really what it is.

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Yes.

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And, you know, so construction access, of course,

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is needed and we, you know,

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all understand what the village residents are saying.

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But, you know, in the place to handle that is

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through the development agreement and such things,

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but Nancy has a lot of experience in this

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and if you could just share a couple of thoughts.

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Well, number one, I'd like to see if I can get

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my monitor down.

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I feel like everybody's looking at the top of my head

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and I want you to know that I'm paying attention

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to your project.

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So, first of all, I was not at the plan commission in May

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when this was moved forward

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and I would hazard a guess that if I was,

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it would look a little different.

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I really am very concerned about this.

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First of all, we also learned as a village board

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that A and K lineage went ahead and jumped the gun

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and built a garage to particularly block access

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in one avenue to the property

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and went through Green Valley Drive to do that

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when their permit was expressly written

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to access off of Emerson.

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So, there's a trust problem that we have right now.

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Number one, number two, Kingston Holmes condominiums,

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as I see this layout, the 18-foot access

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for construction equipment is coming in off of property

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not owned by lineage estate's preliminary plan.

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It's on the abutting property,

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which is owned by the same party.

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So, I understand there can be cross agreements.

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But is that 18-foot strip that runs into a lot two

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on the plat, that's the access

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that everyone has been talking about

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is gonna be the temporary construction access?

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Yes, that was a part of this parcel

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and as a condition to transfer that through the condo

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plat amendment, we basically condition that they add

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the clause that a temporary access easement

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for this construction project be added there.

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Why do Kingston Holmes condominium need that 18 feet?

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Let the lineage estate's preliminary plat

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needed the 18 feet.

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That I don't know, but we wanted to make sure

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that that 18 feet was available for the plat.

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Well, that's gonna be a very interesting situation

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because as it comes in off of Emerson Road

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and goes west on that 18 foot access,

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it's gonna go through lot two.

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So that brings up questions to me

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of how does the developer plan on building this?

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Is this one phase?

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Are they gonna build all 22 lots at one time?

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Number one, because if they are,

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lot two is gonna be their construction access.

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Where else do you go?

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If you take that eight, it's either lot two or lot three.

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So I think this needs to go back to the plan commission.

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I think it needs a little more thought.

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I think this is very tricky and it is an infill site.

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It is totally an infill site.

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And the other thing in talking about the party

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that is the property to the south of it,

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which is the farm field where they're willing to sell

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some land on the west side of it,

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are they willing to sell that?

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And is lineage estates willing to buy it

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and build a road all the way then through that property

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that would connect with explore drive?

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And are they willing to build that

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as part of the plan right now?

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Are they willing to buy that property

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and build that access?

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Because that takes away all the conversation

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or some of the conversation on Emerson Road access.

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Number three, number four,

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when we talk about construction access,

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these are going to be from what we read in the packet.

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These are two unit condominium type buildings.

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Whether they be two story or single family ranch,

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they haven't really given us an indication of that yet.

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But the Green Valley Drive through the existing subdivision

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can't take that construction traffic either.

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Trust trucks, concrete trucks, lumber trucks.

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All the concrete trucks that would come in

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and have to pour all those foundations.

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Again, what I'm alluding to is this 18 foot access

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is more than just a temporary access.

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It is going to have to be somehow noted

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and part made part of, I think, this plat

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in order to make sure we control it.

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And lot two is going to have to become truly,

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it's going to have to have,

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it's going to be the construction access for all of it.

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And I don't see any other way of getting around it.

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You can't take all that through Green Valley,

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it'll never work, through Green Valley Drive.

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And in other areas where we've had infill sites like this,

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they've had direct access though,

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we're going to be talking about one later on,

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the one on Brown Road.

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They at least have access to Brown Road,

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to a public right of way that is a major collector or arterial.

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So this one is going through a subdivision

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of an older subdivision, smaller streets.

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I just, again, I think it needs to go back

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to the Plan Commission and I think we need

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to work some of this stuff out.

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I'm just going to read with the law in the villages.

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No construction or installation of improvements

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shall commence in a proposed land division

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until a development agreement has been executed.

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What's before you is a vote on a plan

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to subdivide this agricultural parcel,

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which is now one parcel.

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Everything we're talking about can be addressed

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in a development agreement,

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which they cannot commence construction

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until there is one in place.

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And you, the board, have to approve it.

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Well, they weren't supposed to build a garage either.

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Well, okay, but we're not talking about developers

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doing things that are illegally.

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Right, right.

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And people aren't supposed to do a lot of things

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and we enforce when they break the law

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and we would do that here.

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All I'm saying is everything we're talking about

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is what you would consider in a development agreement.

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It doesn't have a whole lot to do

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with how we're subdivided parcels.

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So do we need to make a motion

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to send it back to the development?

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No, they can't, if you approve this preliminary plan,

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all that means is there's a plan recorded

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to subdivide this land the way you see it,

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but they can't do anything legally.

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Nancy, what you're talking about is something

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that did illegally, okay?

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They can't do anything legally as far as construction

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until this board approves an agreement

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that they must agree to, okay?

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And then we would address all the construction concerns

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that we've been talking about.

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But if we don't want to approve it the way it is

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because we want a different entry point

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or to address the things that Nancy talked about,

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then we would not vote to approve this.

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Well, if you look at the agenda item,

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it is a preliminary plan.

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I know, but we want to just send it back.

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No, we can approve a preliminary plan

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subject to the other workup that has to happen

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at the time of a development agreement.

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I think part of, and if I can just jump back in,

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I think part of the problem with this is

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that as far as a preliminary plan go, it meets our code.

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It is the proper size, the lots are the proper size

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for the zoning that has been recommended for it.

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The lot type, the RL matches and meets the neighborhood plan.

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I think that our screen just went blank, okay.

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I think that there, you know, I guess I'm just wondering

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truly, you know, I'm gonna go back to my question

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to the developer, and that is, what is your intent in here?

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It's been stated that you're gonna be doing two unit

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attached buildings, is there gonna be a condominium

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plait behind it?

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Obviously, as far as final plait, we will see the HOA documents,

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and that was clear in the review comments.

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But again, it goes back to what is your plan

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for building this, because that is gonna have

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a huge impact on what the developer's agreement says.

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Are you gonna build all 22 lots at one time,

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or are you thinking of doing this in phases?

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And if you're doing it in phases,

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can you identify what those are?

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And I think it's a reasonable question

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to ask a preliminary plait, so that we can understand

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how the final plait will be set up.

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Is the developer here?

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So, if you could just introduce yourself,

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if there's some way that you're gonna answer these questions,

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have a lot of concern for people here.

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I understand.

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My name is John Osterman.

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I'm working with Mrs. Hamilton.

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We're looking at the, putting that subdivision in.

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I'm working with Mrs. Hamilton.

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We're looking at the, putting that subdivision in.

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Any of the questions, it definitely won't be all at one,

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at one time, 22 units.

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They're gonna pretty much match the existing

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that's up on the Green Valley, trying to abide by that.

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We would love to try to get some access off of Emerson Road

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to carry the construction project through.

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There is a large telephone poll there that is,

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of our concerns, for some of the,

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you know, in terms of, you know,

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that is, of our concerns for some of the in and out traffic

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that goes on.

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Well, then you're gonna have to move it.

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You're gonna have to move it.

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Because that's the way you're getting in.

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That's the way you're getting in.

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Okay.

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First off, if I could please finish.

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We will get that access.

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We can have that access to bring the equipment in.

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Whether it's gonna be 100% of it.

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I wouldn't, I would like to have some access coming off the Green Valley.

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And another thing I would like to take and, you know,

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state because some of the comments and stuff that for us going in

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on the end of Green Valley and coming in on the property,

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we do apologize if we interrupted anything.

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It was access going in.

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The two departments we discussed with Mount Pleasant,

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I was told by one department we could remove the trees

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and do anything we needed.

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Two weeks later, we were told by the other department

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that that was not possible.

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So that was my mistake for not considering

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and getting in involved with all the other departments.

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So I do apologize for that.

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We put it back the way it was.

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And it's pretty much any of the access.

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We would try to access off of Emerson on a temporary.

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Now that being said, there's gonna be two residents

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that were gonna go right between on an 18 foot wide.

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I don't very much.

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They're gonna be as happy as the people on Green Valley are.

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So, you know, which one you really wanna go to and to upset,

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I'm sure you're gonna have two people on Emerson are not gonna be happy

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with 18 foot.

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They have all sorts of things piled onto that section right there.

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They have from wood, let's say fully wooded 18 foot wide,

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300 and some feet long going through lot number two,

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which is another costly, costly.

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You know, what you're asking to give up a complete lot,

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I think the access should come off of Green Valley in my personal

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just because it is a public road.

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You must have decided this one your future plans would end.

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There was no other access when all the other permits were giving.

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So, you know, that's what we would abide and help do anything we can

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to make construction traffic easier.

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I'd like to do it in a couple different phases.

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They're not gonna go all at one time,

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which would probably lighten that load so we wouldn't have to push everybody.

01:05:21.180 --> 01:05:27.180
So, if there's any way you could consider that coming off of that Green Valley,

01:05:27.180 --> 01:05:31.180
I would recommend that the two customers or the two residents on

01:05:31.180 --> 01:05:33.180
Emerson are not gonna be happy.

01:05:33.180 --> 01:05:37.180
And I have spoken to a few in the neighborhood up there.

01:05:37.180 --> 01:05:39.180
And they weren't really too concerned.

01:05:39.180 --> 01:05:41.180
They were all very cordial, very nice.

01:05:41.180 --> 01:05:44.180
They expected a subdivision becoming sooner or later.

01:05:44.180 --> 01:05:48.180
Everybody hates to give up a farm field, but that being said,

01:05:48.180 --> 01:05:52.180
we will try to take as much as we can to off that Emerson road.

01:05:52.180 --> 01:05:56.180
And if it is moving a telephone pole, that's something we haven't,

01:05:56.180 --> 01:06:00.180
I guess, looked into to see what that would take at this point.

01:06:00.180 --> 01:06:04.180
And it's just on the side, but it would just make it a little bit tighter.

01:06:04.180 --> 01:06:08.180
And the access, if necessary, we certainly would do something like that.

01:06:09.180 --> 01:06:13.180
If there's any other questions I can help with, please.

01:06:13.180 --> 01:06:18.180
Well, and that's why I asked to have this aerial put up that everybody can see now.

01:06:18.180 --> 01:06:23.180
You have a farm field that is in the middle of, it's surrounded by residential.

01:06:23.180 --> 01:06:29.180
It's by any definition, an infill project.

01:06:29.180 --> 01:06:33.180
So, you know, we just finished in the past business,

01:06:33.180 --> 01:06:36.180
rezoning it to residential.

01:06:36.180 --> 01:06:39.180
We had a trusty vote against rezoning it to residential.

01:06:39.180 --> 01:06:44.180
Not sure why, because I'm assuming that it's not going to stay a farm field forever.

01:06:44.180 --> 01:06:48.180
And rezoning it to residential is what makes most sense.

01:06:48.180 --> 01:06:53.180
You have two dead end roads that go into a green valley dead ends on to her property.

01:06:53.180 --> 01:06:58.180
And another thing, the signs that are posted there are on her property.

01:06:58.180 --> 01:07:02.180
The asphalt emergency turnaround is on her property.

01:07:02.180 --> 01:07:07.180
So, the signs that I removed were on her property that Mount Pleasant put there.

01:07:07.180 --> 01:07:11.180
And if I would have known that that was it, I would have never come in.

01:07:11.180 --> 01:07:16.180
It was just to get access to get equipment and rather than going through a brand new driveway

01:07:16.180 --> 01:07:20.180
that she had just put in her at her residence, and she owned the property.

01:07:20.180 --> 01:07:26.180
So, again, I really, really apologize if I offended anybody in any way that was all on my fault

01:07:26.180 --> 01:07:30.180
for not checking out with Department of Public Works.

01:07:30.180 --> 01:07:34.180
I checked with the building department, and at that point, we were told.

01:07:34.180 --> 01:07:36.180
If you own the property, you can take the trees down.

01:07:36.180 --> 01:07:38.180
It's your property, you have access to it.

01:07:38.180 --> 01:07:41.180
Two weeks later, we were told just the office.

01:07:41.180 --> 01:07:44.180
So, again, I take that responsibility.

01:07:44.180 --> 01:07:46.180
We took it all out of there.

01:07:46.180 --> 01:07:50.180
And I can't imagine that explorer is going to want us coming in off of the explorer,

01:07:50.180 --> 01:07:52.180
even if we did purchase property.

01:07:53.180 --> 01:07:57.180
What are the people down off of the explorer going to say coming in off a sunny slope

01:07:57.180 --> 01:08:00.180
over to explorer and through that subdivision?

01:08:00.180 --> 01:08:02.180
They're going to have the same concerns.

01:08:02.180 --> 01:08:07.180
So, I mean, how do we get in and out and appease Mount Pleasant?

01:08:07.180 --> 01:08:09.180
We will do everything possible.

01:08:09.180 --> 01:08:15.180
But whether I can get 100% of the construction equipment through that 18 foot wide easement

01:08:15.180 --> 01:08:21.180
and those two residents make them happy along with it and astronomical cost,

01:08:21.180 --> 01:08:23.180
what you're asking for.

01:08:23.180 --> 01:08:24.180
Much easier.

01:08:24.180 --> 01:08:28.180
Your water and your sewer are coming in off of Green Valley.

01:08:28.180 --> 01:08:32.180
All of our infrastructure is off of Green Valley.

01:08:32.180 --> 01:08:36.180
There's going to be more that you're going to have to take and put up with.

01:08:36.180 --> 01:08:40.180
You've got water lines that are coming in, 20 feet onto her property.

01:08:40.180 --> 01:08:45.180
You've got sewer lines coming in on her property, 15 feet into her property.

01:08:45.180 --> 01:08:49.180
And it's all on her North property line on that piece of parcel.

01:08:50.180 --> 01:08:54.180
So, anyway, I really would recommend Green Valley.

01:08:54.180 --> 01:08:57.180
You aren't going to have two residents on.

01:08:57.180 --> 01:09:02.180
Emmertson are going to hate us and explorers going to hate us just as much as, you know,

01:09:02.180 --> 01:09:03.180
new construction.

01:09:03.180 --> 01:09:07.180
So, please reconsider what you're considering.

01:09:07.180 --> 01:09:14.180
So, when you talked about your first phase or that you would probably do this in multiple phases,

01:09:15.180 --> 01:09:20.180
I would assume you're going to, your first phase is going to be around Green Valley.

01:09:20.180 --> 01:09:21.180
Well, we have to.

01:09:21.180 --> 01:09:23.180
That's the only place the infrastructure is coming.

01:09:23.180 --> 01:09:26.180
Water comes off of Green Valley and sewer.

01:09:26.180 --> 01:09:27.180
All right.

01:09:27.180 --> 01:09:28.180
All right.

01:09:28.180 --> 01:09:30.180
I'm trying to paint a picture here.

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Right.

01:09:31.180 --> 01:09:36.180
So, again, you know, if your first phase is, you know, what, 10 lots?

01:09:36.180 --> 01:09:38.180
You're going to get down to the cul-de-sac.

01:09:38.180 --> 01:09:41.180
You've got to put your ponds in.

01:09:42.180 --> 01:09:48.180
You know, I think this is a really problem situation because it is an infill and it just

01:09:48.180 --> 01:09:52.180
has great limitations in its current condition.

01:09:52.180 --> 01:09:58.180
And, you know, the two gentlemen that are here who apparently own those properties, I don't

01:09:58.180 --> 01:10:01.180
know, are you on both sides of those properties?

01:10:01.180 --> 01:10:02.180
Right.

01:10:02.180 --> 01:10:10.180
You know, obviously that's something they're not going to like, but I'm not sure why you're

01:10:10.180 --> 01:10:17.180
thinking, you know, that it's unreasonable for us to want you to find a solution to

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this.

01:10:18.180 --> 01:10:22.180
Ultimately, when it's built out, everyone will forget about the construction traffic.

01:10:22.180 --> 01:10:27.180
But there's a, that's a lot of traffic and the trucks go fast.

01:10:27.180 --> 01:10:30.180
And they're disrespectful to the neighborhood.

01:10:30.180 --> 01:10:39.180
So, in other infill sites that we've had like this, John, we have had good access that,

01:10:39.180 --> 01:10:43.180
that was able to overcome that problem without any question.

01:10:43.180 --> 01:10:45.180
I'll let you know on Brown Road.

01:10:45.180 --> 01:10:50.180
I'm on Brown Road where you're just reported for that turnaround that you're going to

01:10:50.180 --> 01:10:51.180
be having down there.

01:10:51.180 --> 01:10:53.180
I'm in the middle of all of that construction.

01:10:53.180 --> 01:10:55.180
So, I know what the construction is.

01:10:55.180 --> 01:10:57.180
I've been into it for 40 some years.

01:10:57.180 --> 01:11:00.180
But you put, you're in the middle of an area.

01:11:00.180 --> 01:11:01.180
There's no access.

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18 feet.

01:11:02.180 --> 01:11:06.180
I'm sure the residents there, they're not going to want me coming through.

01:11:06.180 --> 01:11:09.180
There's trees that have to come down.

01:11:09.180 --> 01:11:14.180
The only logical access point is off of Green Valley.

01:11:14.180 --> 01:11:18.180
Now, we can take and control that to a certain degree and maybe go into the two phases.

01:11:18.180 --> 01:11:23.180
The width of the lot that she's looking at, her parcel is only 500 feet.

01:11:23.180 --> 01:11:28.180
She can start off on phases and we can work in on going in because that's where the infrastructure

01:11:28.180 --> 01:11:29.180
all has to start at.

01:11:29.180 --> 01:11:32.180
So, I hope I helped in any of the answers.

01:11:32.180 --> 01:11:40.180
I sure wish you would reconsider some of the questions that I had for you on the access.

01:11:40.180 --> 01:11:42.180
And as far as moving a telephone poll, we can.

01:11:42.180 --> 01:11:46.180
But I don't think there'd be as happy as explore either.

01:11:46.180 --> 01:11:51.180
So, anything else I can help with, please?

01:11:51.180 --> 01:11:52.180
Sure.

01:11:52.180 --> 01:11:57.180
I can't take questions from the audience.

01:11:57.180 --> 01:11:59.180
That's okay.

01:11:59.180 --> 01:12:02.180
Any of the other trustees have any questions?

01:12:02.180 --> 01:12:18.180
Mr. President, that's why my question was originally that this is a preliminary plan, preliminary plan, by my question about what's the process, you know, to get a handle on the construction, you know, traffic, whether we can enforce it or not.

01:12:18.180 --> 01:12:29.180
Obviously, Trustee Washburn, you know, with her experience as a builder, she brings a whole new, a different aspect of that.

01:12:29.180 --> 01:12:47.180
But I am here looking at what's the, I'm totally in agreement with the resident that if I was living on the Green Valley Drive or the Kingview Drive, I would not want to have the construction traffic, you know, go through my subdivision.

01:12:47.180 --> 01:12:53.180
So what I am kind of, honestly, struggling with that, what's the best process?

01:12:53.180 --> 01:13:02.180
Do we approve the preliminary plot and then go through the process to the development agreement, as our attorney Chris says, you know, rightly pointed out?

01:13:02.180 --> 01:13:09.180
Or is that we go back to the planning commission to re-review the preliminary plan?

01:13:10.180 --> 01:13:17.180
And I'm looking for some more answer from the either plan or so it may be from...

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If the builder doesn't, well, let me just say something.

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If the builder doesn't have approval of a preliminary plan, he has no reason to go back for anything.

01:13:26.180 --> 01:13:28.180
He's done.

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So we've re-zone the property for a preliminary plan.

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The plan's going to need work, so don't question about it.

01:13:37.180 --> 01:13:42.180
And those kinds of questions can get answered through the development agreement.

01:13:42.180 --> 01:13:45.180
At the end of the day, do you want a subdivision here or not?

01:13:45.180 --> 01:13:50.180
I think we do because most of us agreed to re-zone it because that's what makes sense.

01:13:50.180 --> 01:13:59.180
So, you know, again, this is a step in the process and everybody wants all the answers tonight and nobody's going to get the answers tonight.

01:13:59.180 --> 01:14:03.180
Because we have a process that we go through.

01:14:03.180 --> 01:14:11.180
And those kinds of things, like the development agreement, are going to come back in front of plan commission.

01:14:11.180 --> 01:14:16.180
And plan commission gets the kick at the cap and this comes back before the board.

01:14:16.180 --> 01:14:17.180
Yeah.

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So in as much as there's some here on this deal right now, I don't see why we shouldn't be approving that.

01:14:26.180 --> 01:14:33.180
I guess Mr. President, I think there is some here on this.

01:14:33.180 --> 01:14:41.180
And I think, you know, I recognize the importance of this to the residents that live in the surrounding community.

01:14:41.180 --> 01:14:45.180
Explore Drive at some point is going to go through.

01:14:45.180 --> 01:14:53.180
For the gentleman that spoke before, Explore Drive has been, you know, that stub street has been there forever.

01:14:53.180 --> 01:14:57.180
It was built to be a road that connected somewhere.

01:14:57.180 --> 01:15:04.180
I'd really, I think my suggestion of sending it back to the plan committee, the plan committee is not going to be able to do anything.

01:15:04.180 --> 01:15:12.180
You know, the plan commission isn't going to be able to address the questions that we're bringing up tonight, which is some of the accesses.

01:15:12.180 --> 01:15:14.180
Now, Robin, are you putting that on there?

01:15:14.180 --> 01:15:16.180
Are you putting the roads on there?

01:15:17.180 --> 01:15:31.180
This is because you mentioned Haven that reminded me now that I have the power of the display to show where the current proposed road layout is.

01:15:31.180 --> 01:15:34.180
So I put that up there.

01:15:34.180 --> 01:15:43.180
It shows that Haven is a proposed road and that is still on the next one, but I don't necessarily think that that's.

01:15:43.180 --> 01:15:50.180
I mean, given the property situation that that's necessary, we were more planning about the connection to the south.

01:15:50.180 --> 01:15:53.180
To the south.

01:15:53.180 --> 01:15:56.180
So, well, exactly.

01:15:56.180 --> 01:16:10.180
And so in my mind, I think that moving the preliminary plat forward allows the developer to have some of the discussions with the neighbor to see if they can get the.

01:16:10.180 --> 01:16:19.180
Any land from the budding property, because that would create a south connection, which would go over to explore and down.

01:16:19.180 --> 01:16:26.180
I don't see it as being a big cut through until something on Emerson Road would connect it.

01:16:26.180 --> 01:16:33.180
And based on the way the Kingston condo plat has come in, I think Robin's right.

01:16:33.180 --> 01:16:38.180
You're not going to see another connection to Emerson Road till you get much further south.

01:16:38.180 --> 01:16:45.180
But I think that by us approving the preliminary plat, it allows the developer to think through some of our concerns.

01:16:45.180 --> 01:16:49.180
See if they can get that extra access, it would change their plat.

01:16:49.180 --> 01:16:54.180
It would change the way the plat looks, because right now in that corner, they show a pond.

01:16:54.180 --> 01:17:07.180
But the preliminary plat approval conditions include the final plat, the stormwater and sediment control plans and specifications shall be submitted for review and approval.

01:17:07.180 --> 01:17:17.180
Has Nielsen, Mason and Barber, is this just conceptual in terms of where the ponds are going to go, Al?

01:17:17.180 --> 01:17:24.180
Come up on, Mike, please.

01:17:25.180 --> 01:17:32.180
Al, Jessica, Nielsen, Mason, Barber, 1458, Horizon Boulder.

01:17:32.180 --> 01:17:37.180
The ponds are located in the low spots in the property where they should be.

01:17:37.180 --> 01:17:39.180
So water be draining towards them.

01:17:39.180 --> 01:17:40.180
Okay.

01:17:40.180 --> 01:17:45.180
So that north south road that's closest to explore or drive, that could move a little bit further east.

01:17:45.180 --> 01:17:49.180
I mean, that can be shifted so that you can get your stormwater where you need it to go.

01:17:50.180 --> 01:17:53.180
Because the low spot is going to be the low spot.

01:17:53.180 --> 01:17:55.180
That's going to dictate that.

01:17:55.180 --> 01:17:56.180
All right.

01:17:56.180 --> 01:17:59.180
Thanks, Al.

01:17:59.180 --> 01:18:01.180
So I think this is tricky.

01:18:01.180 --> 01:18:07.180
I think the developer's agreement is going to have to be, it's going to be very interesting.

01:18:07.180 --> 01:18:15.180
And the problem with the developer's agreement, in my mind, is only that we don't see it until it's done.

01:18:16.180 --> 01:18:21.180
And so, you know, I guess we want to, how do we stay informed along the way?

01:18:21.180 --> 01:18:26.180
I mean, there's no obligation to us to be informed, Chris, but...

01:18:26.180 --> 01:18:27.180
You're right.

01:18:27.180 --> 01:18:31.180
You don't see it until it's done because it's not done until you approve it.

01:18:31.180 --> 01:18:32.180
So you see a draft?

01:18:32.180 --> 01:18:33.180
We see a draft.

01:18:33.180 --> 01:18:35.180
We heard the concerns.

01:18:35.180 --> 01:18:37.180
You look at it.

01:18:37.180 --> 01:18:41.180
Obviously, we have to talk to the developer to negotiate that agreement.

01:18:42.180 --> 01:18:45.180
And if it doesn't satisfy you, then you vote no.

01:18:45.180 --> 01:18:47.180
And that's how it works.

01:18:47.180 --> 01:18:54.180
And if you vote no and you don't approve a developer's agreement, then they cannot convince any construction.

01:18:54.180 --> 01:19:01.180
Regardless of the plat, regardless of the rezone, our code says development agreement is required.

01:19:01.180 --> 01:19:03.180
So that's what it is.

01:19:03.180 --> 01:19:10.180
You could see the draft and say, I don't like this, I don't like this, go back and change it.

01:19:11.180 --> 01:19:12.180
Okay.

01:19:12.180 --> 01:19:13.180
All right.

01:19:13.180 --> 01:19:14.180
Well, I really think that...

01:19:14.180 --> 01:19:20.180
And you actually have two kicks out at the plan commission level and at the board level.

01:19:20.180 --> 01:19:24.180
Yes, I'm looking forward to that.

01:19:24.180 --> 01:19:29.180
So, again, I think the developer's agreement is going to be really critical.

01:19:29.180 --> 01:19:36.180
I think this is a very tough site because it does have a number of units in it.

01:19:36.180 --> 01:19:38.180
You know, it's 22 lots.

01:19:39.180 --> 01:19:50.180
Once it's built out, it's amazing how once it's built and the roads are in, all the newness of it dissipates very quickly.

01:19:50.180 --> 01:19:58.180
But Sunnyview Drive, it was meant to be a roadway that Explorer Drive connected to.

01:19:58.180 --> 01:20:03.180
If we can't make it to the Haven connection, I get that.

01:20:03.180 --> 01:20:19.180
But I don't see that there's a reason to deny the preliminary plat based on the discussion we're having because of the importance of those things being in the final plat and the developer's agreement.

01:20:19.180 --> 01:20:21.180
And I don't know how they're going to overcome it.

01:20:21.180 --> 01:20:32.180
I think they really need to show us that they've made an effort to try and make a connection down to a public right of way that is 66 feet wide, which would be Explorer Drive.

01:20:32.180 --> 01:20:38.180
That to me is really the home run to give it multiple accesses and multiple ways in.

01:20:38.180 --> 01:20:43.180
Temporary access somehow, you know, coming in another way.

01:20:43.180 --> 01:20:44.180
I don't know.

01:20:44.180 --> 01:20:57.180
That's, you know, these guys aren't going to be happy tearing out trees, but it's neither one of the, you know, to me.

01:20:57.180 --> 01:21:07.180
Green Valley Drive that turn there going up into the, or going down south into the subdivision, it's a tricky turn and it's narrow pavement.

01:21:07.180 --> 01:21:19.180
When you look at their asphalt, this roadway will be, the asphalt section will be wider than what they match up to in Green Valley.

01:21:19.180 --> 01:21:21.180
So I have a procedural question.

01:21:21.180 --> 01:21:27.180
If we approve this plat mat, what's the incentive to go back and rework it?

01:21:27.180 --> 01:21:29.180
The incentive for the developer?

01:21:29.180 --> 01:21:30.180
Right.

01:21:30.180 --> 01:21:33.180
Because you want to approve a development agreement if they don't.

01:21:33.180 --> 01:21:34.180
For the final.

01:21:34.180 --> 01:21:36.180
For the final plat.

01:21:36.180 --> 01:21:40.180
But what if we want them to rework it before the development agreement?

01:21:40.180 --> 01:21:44.180
I mean, what if we don't want, like what we're seeing preliminarily?

01:21:44.180 --> 01:21:47.180
Where would you, how would you like them to rework it?

01:21:47.180 --> 01:21:51.180
That's what's to be determined, but not the way it is right now.

01:21:51.180 --> 01:22:00.180
Is this, I'm just asking procedurally because I don't want something to happen where it starts, development starts, and it wasn't something that we approved.

01:22:00.180 --> 01:22:04.180
Development can't start unless you, this board approves a development agreement.

01:22:04.180 --> 01:22:06.180
And when would that happen?

01:22:06.180 --> 01:22:16.180
Whenever the developer and the village representatives get to a point where we say, okay, this is something that will take to the board to consider.

01:22:16.180 --> 01:22:20.180
Which would have to take this into effect.

01:22:20.180 --> 01:22:24.180
And like Nancy said, maybe there is no way to solve it.

01:22:24.180 --> 01:22:26.180
And then you don't approve it.

01:22:26.180 --> 01:22:28.180
And that means the developer doesn't develop?

01:22:28.180 --> 01:22:29.180
Correct.

01:22:29.180 --> 01:22:34.180
Because they can't commence construction without a development agreement.

01:22:34.180 --> 01:22:44.180
And the development agreement in my mind is the place, the appropriate place to deal with the issues that we've been debating tonight.

01:22:45.180 --> 01:22:52.180
It's not a perfect thing, that's why it's a preliminary plat.

01:22:52.180 --> 01:22:54.180
We know that it needs work.

01:22:54.180 --> 01:22:55.180
Go ahead.

01:22:55.180 --> 01:22:57.180
I just wanted to state the obvious here.

01:22:57.180 --> 01:23:05.180
Like you said, this is a preliminary plat and I think the developer is now quite aware of the concerns of the neighbors.

01:23:05.180 --> 01:23:12.180
And obviously this will not get passed by the board unless you meet the concerns of the neighbors and the concerns of the board members.

01:23:12.180 --> 01:23:17.180
So it's a preliminary plat in order for the process to move forward, it has to be approved.

01:23:17.180 --> 01:23:20.180
If I may chime in on that.

01:23:20.180 --> 01:23:28.180
So final plats, the main kind of thing is if they substantially conform to the preliminary plat, you're obligated to approve them.

01:23:28.180 --> 01:23:37.180
So like the onus is really on getting the preliminary plat very similar to what's going to be the final product plus whatever conditions.

01:23:37.180 --> 01:23:45.180
So if you approve the preliminary plat and say I want A, B, C, D, E, F, then those are all conditions for the final plat to be approved.

01:23:45.180 --> 01:23:54.180
But if you say I approve the preliminary plat as is and then the final plat comes in as is, you really got to come up with some really good reasons to be able to say no at that point.

01:23:54.180 --> 01:23:57.180
And that is all beside the development agreement part.

01:23:57.180 --> 01:23:58.180
Like that's separate.

01:23:58.180 --> 01:23:59.180
That's a different thing.

01:23:59.180 --> 01:24:01.180
That's Chris's ball game.

01:24:01.180 --> 01:24:04.180
So you're saying that obligates us?

01:24:04.180 --> 01:24:13.180
Yes, Wisconsin state law basically says that if you have a final plat that's before you, that is substantially conforming to the preliminary plat.

01:24:13.180 --> 01:24:20.180
That this is chapter 236 by the way, substantially conforms to the preliminary plat approved.

01:24:20.180 --> 01:24:25.180
It is basically obligated or expected approval.

01:24:25.180 --> 01:24:33.180
And so your reasons for denying that would have to be kind of above and beyond normal stuff.

01:24:33.180 --> 01:24:36.180
Right.

01:24:36.180 --> 01:24:45.180
They cannot, according to our code, commence construction without a development agreement.

01:24:45.180 --> 01:24:51.180
The development agreement would have to go through plan commission and get approved by the board.

01:24:51.180 --> 01:25:02.180
Regardless of the plats, just so everybody's clear, I read the law from the code of ordinances.

01:25:02.180 --> 01:25:04.180
I totally agree 100%.

01:25:04.180 --> 01:25:13.180
I just was saying as far as the onus of whether or not to put the conditions or the hopes and dreams on the preliminary plat or wait, we just can't wait to the final plat to fix everything.

01:25:13.180 --> 01:25:16.180
That's all I'm saying.

01:25:16.180 --> 01:25:36.180
Well, I think if I were to add a condition, when I look at the conditions that were on the preliminary plat approval from the plan commission, I think I would add a condition to that approval then that would carry forward.

01:25:36.180 --> 01:26:00.180
That would state that the developer needs to explore the possibility of purchasing the additional lands from the southerly abutting property owner in order to potentially make a second connection on a public road right of way into the development.

01:26:01.180 --> 01:26:13.180
I think that the 18 foot access, which the developer apparently agreed to at the plan commission to using that for construction.

01:26:13.180 --> 01:26:17.180
So you made a commitment to that at a previous meeting.

01:26:18.180 --> 01:26:28.180
And I don't know if you want the people to come in on the Kingston Way condo driveway and then go up the 18 feet, you know, through lot two or three.

01:26:28.180 --> 01:26:36.180
Or you're going to tear down trees that are in between these two gentlemen's home and move a telephone pole to use that 18 feet.

01:26:36.180 --> 01:26:39.180
But you made the comment and the commitment.

01:26:39.180 --> 01:26:41.180
So.

01:27:00.180 --> 01:27:07.180
Well, but there's there's there's already a neighborhood transportation plan that's been in place that shows all those connections.

01:27:08.180 --> 01:27:18.180
So, you know, the fact that that this happens to have some idiosyncrasies to it doesn't negate the fact that we have to try and solve the problem.

01:27:18.180 --> 01:27:30.180
So again, that I would be adding that commit that condition that they that we would want to know that they've explored negotiations with the property owner to the south because that property owner has in writing.

01:27:30.180 --> 01:27:34.180
Let the village know that they would be interested in potentially selling.

01:27:34.180 --> 01:27:38.180
Okay, so I have a clerk trying to keep minutes straight.

01:27:38.180 --> 01:27:44.180
And I think the board probably likes your idea of that amendment.

01:27:44.180 --> 01:27:53.180
The motion that's in front of us, we can, I think, politely amend if we have consensus on the board.

01:27:53.180 --> 01:27:54.180
Not consensus.

01:27:54.180 --> 01:27:56.180
No objections.

01:27:56.180 --> 01:27:58.180
Mr. President.

01:27:58.180 --> 01:28:03.180
And again, that's why, you know, we started discussion, but based on everything I've heard,

01:28:03.180 --> 01:28:04.180
I believe.

01:28:04.180 --> 01:28:07.180
And I'm going to ask a question to a returning.

01:28:07.180 --> 01:28:16.180
Perhaps we could amend the motion saying is we preliminary plan approval subject to the development agreement.

01:28:16.180 --> 01:28:17.180
Because that's.

01:28:17.180 --> 01:28:19.180
Well, that's what the law already says.

01:28:19.180 --> 01:28:20.180
That's the law.

01:28:20.180 --> 01:28:22.180
So my question is.

01:28:22.180 --> 01:28:25.180
If that's what the law says, I'm working with that.

01:28:25.180 --> 01:28:29.180
But if there's any gray area, I don't mind for that condition.

01:28:29.180 --> 01:28:32.180
Because otherwise, we have too many questions.

01:28:32.180 --> 01:28:37.180
We're not going to be able to answer tonight or even back at the clinic commission.

01:28:37.180 --> 01:28:40.180
So I like that idea that the.

01:28:40.180 --> 01:28:45.180
Even if we approve it without the development agreement.

01:28:45.180 --> 01:28:48.180
This project will not move forward.

01:28:48.180 --> 01:28:50.180
So again.

01:28:50.180 --> 01:28:57.180
So what we're looking for rhymes is, are you willing to do you have any objection.

01:28:58.180 --> 01:29:03.180
To amending your motion to approve the preliminary plat.

01:29:03.180 --> 01:29:07.180
Which already takes into account plan commission conditions.

01:29:07.180 --> 01:29:12.180
Adding the condition that they need to show us that they have.

01:29:12.180 --> 01:29:16.180
Made an attempt to negotiate with the property owner to the south.

01:29:16.180 --> 01:29:19.180
In order to gain another access.

01:29:19.180 --> 01:29:22.180
The developers agreements a final plat.

01:29:22.180 --> 01:29:25.180
It's tied to final plat no matter what.

01:29:25.180 --> 01:29:28.180
You don't have a developers agreement with a preliminary plat.

01:29:28.180 --> 01:29:30.180
I will answer a question.

01:29:30.180 --> 01:29:31.180
I don't have any problem.

01:29:31.180 --> 01:29:32.180
I don't have any objection to that.

01:29:32.180 --> 01:29:35.180
But I'm not sure that's going to answer all the question.

01:29:35.180 --> 01:29:37.180
Because even if we do that.

01:29:37.180 --> 01:29:41.180
There might be some other question because you know, you mentioned a lot too.

01:29:41.180 --> 01:29:42.180
It could be access from that.

01:29:42.180 --> 01:29:46.180
So that's why I believe that I like the idea of our attorney that.

01:29:46.180 --> 01:29:48.180
The development agreement.

01:29:48.180 --> 01:29:50.180
Without that approval.

01:29:50.180 --> 01:29:52.180
This project will not move.

01:29:53.180 --> 01:29:55.180
So again, I don't have any objection to it.

01:29:55.180 --> 01:29:58.180
But I feel more comfortable to.

01:29:58.180 --> 01:30:03.180
Just for the sake of the.

01:30:03.180 --> 01:30:05.180
That everyone all the residents.

01:30:05.180 --> 01:30:06.180
Everyone know that.

01:30:06.180 --> 01:30:10.180
It project will not move forward without the development agreement.

01:30:10.180 --> 01:30:14.180
Although we have heard multiple times, you know, from Chris.

01:30:14.180 --> 01:30:15.180
That that's a lot.

01:30:15.180 --> 01:30:20.180
So I feel even more comfortable just to say preliminary plat.

01:30:21.180 --> 01:30:27.180
I don't want to be buying just one more condition and then three more conditions come out.

01:30:27.180 --> 01:30:34.180
Just we don't.

01:30:34.180 --> 01:30:35.180
Proceed, Julie.

01:30:35.180 --> 01:30:36.180
Okay.

01:30:36.180 --> 01:30:41.180
When there's a motion and a second generally speaking, that's what you have to vote on.

01:30:41.180 --> 01:30:49.180
However, Robert's rules of order says that for small governing bodies, which we qualify, you can deviate from those rules.

01:30:50.180 --> 01:30:57.180
So historically, if someone makes a motion and a second.

01:30:57.180 --> 01:31:01.180
But the whole board agrees we can make an amendment to it.

01:31:01.180 --> 01:31:02.180
We do that.

01:31:02.180 --> 01:31:05.180
So Nancy.

01:31:05.180 --> 01:31:08.180
Ask to amend your motion.

01:31:08.180 --> 01:31:11.180
Rahm answered with the different kind of amendment.

01:31:11.180 --> 01:31:12.180
It sounds like to me.

01:31:12.180 --> 01:31:13.180
Yeah.

01:31:13.180 --> 01:31:14.180
That's what I'm not.

01:31:14.180 --> 01:31:17.180
So well, I think.

01:31:17.180 --> 01:31:23.180
We either need to agree all on one amendment or just vote on this motion as it's stated.

01:31:23.180 --> 01:31:30.180
Well, the other way you can do it would be for Nancy to add as a motion and amendment.

01:31:30.180 --> 01:31:35.180
We vote her motion and then we come back to the main motion.

01:31:35.180 --> 01:31:40.180
Well, but if everybody agrees, there's no need to do it that way.

01:31:40.180 --> 01:31:41.180
You know what I mean?

01:31:41.180 --> 01:31:42.180
Sure.

01:31:42.180 --> 01:31:53.180
Nancy, would your amendment be fair to say add a condition that the developer has to attempt to say it again?

01:31:53.180 --> 01:32:04.180
Enter into negotiations with the property owner abutting to the south who has expressed interest in selling the rear of their property to allow access to explore or drive.

01:32:04.180 --> 01:32:13.180
And then also as an additional amendment, would you agree to say this is conditional approval of the development agreement?

01:32:13.180 --> 01:32:16.180
Yes, I'd be willing to add the approval of the developer's agreement.

01:32:16.180 --> 01:32:21.180
It's not part of preliminary process typically, but we can add it to this.

01:32:21.180 --> 01:32:24.180
Does anyone object to that?

01:32:25.180 --> 01:32:44.180
I'm concerned about the obligation piece that Robin said because I don't want to be on record approving this preliminary plait map and then nothing changes and then be via that, then we have to approve it.

01:32:45.180 --> 01:32:50.180
Then the onus and the burden is on us to come up with all these reasons.

01:32:50.180 --> 01:32:54.180
It doesn't sound like there's a lot of latitude there and that's what my concern is.

01:32:54.180 --> 01:33:00.180
It feels like the train is going and we're not going to be able to stop the train if we approve this.

01:33:00.180 --> 01:33:01.180
That's my concern.

01:33:01.180 --> 01:33:02.180
Okay.

01:33:02.180 --> 01:33:07.180
Well, it sounds like we do not have unanimous agreement on the amendment, so you've got to vote on the original motion.

01:33:07.180 --> 01:33:10.180
And if you have concerns, you vote no.

01:33:10.180 --> 01:33:11.180
Okay.

01:33:11.180 --> 01:33:16.180
So, having heard a robust discussion, I'll call the question.

01:33:16.180 --> 01:33:19.180
No, we can't add the amendment.

01:33:19.180 --> 01:33:21.180
No, you just questioned it.

01:33:21.180 --> 01:33:23.180
You just disagree with it.

01:33:23.180 --> 01:33:28.180
So we need to have agreement from everybody in order to change the motion.

01:33:28.180 --> 01:33:34.180
And I understand your concern with the train being, you know, the horse and the barn and the train.

01:33:34.180 --> 01:33:39.180
The bottom line is that this property is rightfully zoned RL.

01:33:39.180 --> 01:33:41.180
It's residential.

01:33:41.180 --> 01:33:47.180
Within that residential zoning, a preliminary plan is a requirement is the next step.

01:33:47.180 --> 01:33:52.180
The preliminary plan that they're showing us is reasonable, quite honestly.

01:33:52.180 --> 01:34:01.180
The fact is that we have a whole neighborhood that turned out here that says we don't want this construction traffic going through our property.

01:34:01.180 --> 01:34:02.180
Right.

01:34:02.180 --> 01:34:07.180
The bottom line is that Green Valley Drive is a public road ride.

01:34:08.180 --> 01:34:15.180
So we're trying to do everything we can as a board to protect the people that are residents living there that have reached out to us.

01:34:15.180 --> 01:34:16.180
Right.

01:34:16.180 --> 01:34:24.180
But there's going to be a point where legally the developer is going to have rights.

01:34:24.180 --> 01:34:31.180
If we approve the zoning, what would be your reason for not approving the preliminary plan?

01:34:31.180 --> 01:34:33.180
It meets the code for size.

01:34:33.180 --> 01:34:36.180
It meets the code for the type of project.

01:34:36.180 --> 01:34:39.180
It has show stormwater management ponds.

01:34:39.180 --> 01:34:45.180
So, unfortunately, as a plan to deny it would be, I think, even more consequences.

01:34:45.180 --> 01:34:49.180
Well, it's the access road for all the construction trucks.

01:34:49.180 --> 01:34:51.180
That's what the concern is.

01:34:51.180 --> 01:34:52.180
Gina.

01:34:52.180 --> 01:34:55.180
If I could just interrupt for you for a second.

01:34:55.180 --> 01:34:57.180
I was following Nancy.

01:34:57.180 --> 01:34:59.180
Nancy proposed an amendment.

01:34:59.180 --> 01:35:01.180
Are you good at the amendment or not?

01:35:02.180 --> 01:35:03.180
I'm good with the amendment.

01:35:03.180 --> 01:35:04.180
But how do you enforce that?

01:35:04.180 --> 01:35:06.180
You're just saying negotiations started.

01:35:06.180 --> 01:35:07.180
What does that mean?

01:35:07.180 --> 01:35:09.180
Writing a purchase offer?

01:35:09.180 --> 01:35:10.180
What does that mean?

01:35:10.180 --> 01:35:14.180
It means, well, it means that they had to show us that it made some kind of effort.

01:35:14.180 --> 01:35:16.180
Like a phone call?

01:35:16.180 --> 01:35:17.180
What does that mean?

01:35:17.180 --> 01:35:18.180
A phone call and effort?

01:35:18.180 --> 01:35:26.180
If it means, if we could stipulate, makes a purchase offer, a concerted contractual offer, then that's got some more teeth than just a phone call.

01:35:26.180 --> 01:35:27.180
But I don't know.

01:35:28.180 --> 01:35:30.180
You are putting the cart way before the horse.

01:35:30.180 --> 01:35:32.180
So I'm just going to ask you one last time.

01:35:32.180 --> 01:35:34.180
Are you going to support the amendment?

01:35:34.180 --> 01:35:36.180
I'll support the amendment.

01:35:36.180 --> 01:35:37.180
Okay.

01:35:37.180 --> 01:35:40.180
So then we've got a complete support of that.

01:35:40.180 --> 01:35:42.180
Do you have that all written down?

01:35:42.180 --> 01:35:44.180
Nancy's amendment?

01:35:44.180 --> 01:35:45.180
Jill?

01:35:45.180 --> 01:35:46.180
Yes.

01:35:46.180 --> 01:35:47.180
And we also have it on recording.

01:35:47.180 --> 01:35:48.180
Okay.

01:35:48.180 --> 01:35:50.180
So the motioner is okay with that.

01:35:50.180 --> 01:35:53.180
The seconder is okay with that, right?

01:35:53.180 --> 01:35:54.180
Okay.

01:35:54.180 --> 01:35:55.180
Everybody's okay.

01:35:55.180 --> 01:35:56.180
Okay.

01:35:56.180 --> 01:36:04.180
So now I'm going to call the question on the main vote regarding the preliminary plan approval.

01:36:04.180 --> 01:36:07.180
Roll call.

01:36:07.180 --> 01:36:08.180
Caris?

01:36:08.180 --> 01:36:09.180
Aye.

01:36:09.180 --> 01:36:10.180
Ventrini?

01:36:10.180 --> 01:36:11.180
Aye.

01:36:11.180 --> 01:36:12.180
Batia?

01:36:12.180 --> 01:36:13.180
Aye.

01:36:13.180 --> 01:36:14.180
Washburn?

01:36:14.180 --> 01:36:15.180
Aye.

01:36:15.180 --> 01:36:16.180
Pollock?

01:36:16.180 --> 01:36:17.180
Aye.

01:36:17.180 --> 01:36:18.180
DeGroote?

01:36:18.180 --> 01:36:19.180
Aye.

01:36:19.180 --> 01:36:20.180
That motion carries.

01:36:20.180 --> 01:36:21.180
Okay.

01:36:22.180 --> 01:36:23.180
Okay.

01:36:23.180 --> 01:36:24.180
We're going to keep going.

01:36:24.180 --> 01:36:26.180
Trustee Botch is just to choose himself for a few minutes.

01:36:26.180 --> 01:36:27.180
Okay.

01:36:27.180 --> 01:36:33.180
So we've got public hearing now regarding ordinance 6-2026, Zoning Map amendment for Giddings Road

01:36:33.180 --> 01:36:35.180
and Hoods Creek.

01:36:35.180 --> 01:36:38.180
ZMA 26-3.

01:36:38.180 --> 01:36:45.180
Again, same rules apply for the public hearing.

01:36:46.180 --> 01:36:51.180
But let's have the discussion from Robin.

01:36:51.180 --> 01:36:54.180
I'll give 20 seconds for the gallery.

01:36:54.180 --> 01:36:55.180
Is that okay?

01:36:55.180 --> 01:36:56.180
That's fine.

01:36:56.180 --> 01:36:59.180
Yeah, let's wait a few minutes for everybody to be excused.

01:37:00.180 --> 01:37:06.180
That's going to be a turn point because we can't deny it because we can't get another

01:37:06.180 --> 01:37:07.180
access.

01:37:07.180 --> 01:37:08.180
We can't.

01:37:08.180 --> 01:37:09.180
They have Layla.

01:37:09.180 --> 01:37:14.180
I'm just going to go to something like this and the only thing that's safe to pay over

01:37:14.180 --> 01:37:17.180
the dollar is that we're supposed to be prior to this.

01:37:17.180 --> 01:37:21.180
We're going to be prior to this and they grant us access.

01:37:21.180 --> 01:37:26.180
Over the winter we were building it over the winter so they said fine, we don't have

01:37:26.180 --> 01:37:33.180
a farm stamp.

01:37:33.180 --> 01:37:40.180
And so we want to have a support by foundation.

01:37:40.180 --> 01:37:45.180
It's going to be off.

01:37:45.180 --> 01:37:49.180
It's going to be off.

01:37:49.180 --> 01:38:03.180
Okay, Robin.

01:38:03.180 --> 01:38:04.180
Okay.

01:38:04.180 --> 01:38:05.180
Okay.

01:38:05.180 --> 01:38:07.180
Thank you, Mr. President.

01:38:07.180 --> 01:38:14.180
So this is Creekville Lane and Hoods Creek path zoning map amendments ZMA 26-03.

01:38:14.180 --> 01:38:18.180
This is also attached to a subdivision plat.

01:38:18.180 --> 01:38:25.180
The applicant, Jeff Bakke, applied to amend the zoning map for approximately 10.685 acres

01:38:25.180 --> 01:38:30.180
of this partials from AG2 which general agriculture to RL loaded the residential.

01:38:30.180 --> 01:38:36.180
The rezoning area corresponds with the settlement of Hoods Creek Edition 6 which is being reviewed

01:38:36.180 --> 01:38:38.180
as companion final plat.

01:38:38.180 --> 01:38:43.180
The proposed final plat creates 16 asterisk.

01:38:43.180 --> 01:38:48.180
The residential lots and out lot 12 are on the extension of Creekville Lane and Arden Road.

01:38:48.180 --> 01:38:53.180
The zoning map amendment would place the edition 6 final plat area into the RL district before

01:38:53.180 --> 01:38:56.180
final plat recording.

01:38:56.180 --> 01:39:03.180
So, you know, the final plat has some relics relating to the RL1 zoning district which was

01:39:03.180 --> 01:39:07.180
amended in 2025 to be just RL.

01:39:07.180 --> 01:39:11.180
Those need to be revised.

01:39:11.180 --> 01:39:18.180
So this is up in the sort of central north area of the village.

01:39:18.180 --> 01:39:26.180
This is a continuation of the subdivision that has been under construction for a long time.

01:39:26.180 --> 01:39:34.180
So, and this, one of the plan commission reviewed this and the only matter of concern was one

01:39:34.180 --> 01:39:40.180
particular lot which is over the width allowance for the RL district.

01:39:40.180 --> 01:39:49.180
So the condition is either for that lot to be split in order to meet that requirement or

01:39:49.180 --> 01:39:55.180
for an administrative adjustment to be applied for to be approved by the community development

01:39:55.180 --> 01:39:59.180
director to allow for the slight overage.

01:39:59.180 --> 01:40:01.180
The lot is weird.

01:40:01.180 --> 01:40:03.180
It's like a, it looks actually like a house.

01:40:03.180 --> 01:40:06.180
It's a pentagon and it's just too wide.

01:40:06.180 --> 01:40:13.180
And it's almost an acre which is the upper limit of the RL zoning district.

01:40:13.180 --> 01:40:22.180
So other than that, everything was approved and the plan commission and village staff

01:40:22.180 --> 01:40:26.180
recommend approval of this subdivision plat.

01:40:26.180 --> 01:40:27.180
Thank you.

01:40:27.180 --> 01:40:28.180
Oh, sorry.

01:40:28.180 --> 01:40:29.180
Zoning map amendment.

01:40:29.180 --> 01:40:30.180
This is the zoning.

01:40:30.180 --> 01:40:31.180
Oh my gosh.

01:40:31.180 --> 01:40:32.180
Everything.

01:40:32.180 --> 01:40:33.180
I'm all discombobulated.

01:40:33.180 --> 01:40:35.180
This is just the zoning map amendment.

01:40:35.180 --> 01:40:36.180
So this is discussion on that.

01:40:36.180 --> 01:40:38.180
So it's an amendment to RL.

01:40:38.180 --> 01:40:40.180
Everything else is RL around there.

01:40:40.180 --> 01:40:42.180
There is some RE properties, but those are for legit.

01:40:42.180 --> 01:40:48.180
It may lead to two to three acre quasi agricultural properties.

01:40:48.180 --> 01:40:49.180
Okay.

01:40:49.180 --> 01:40:55.180
So I'll open up the public hearing regarding ordinance six dash 2026.

01:40:55.180 --> 01:40:59.180
ZMA 26 dash three.

01:41:00.180 --> 01:41:05.180
I have nobody signed up on this one.

01:41:05.180 --> 01:41:10.180
Anybody in chambers here wanting to speak on this one?

01:41:10.180 --> 01:41:11.180
No.

01:41:11.180 --> 01:41:12.180
Going once going twice.

01:41:12.180 --> 01:41:22.180
So we can close public hearing on that and discuss and then possible motion regarding

01:41:22.180 --> 01:41:23.180
that.

01:41:24.180 --> 01:41:30.180
Just that we did have one comment in the email conversation between us, DBW and the developer

01:41:30.180 --> 01:41:32.180
about storm water and road access.

01:41:32.180 --> 01:41:36.180
And that was answered much to the resident satisfaction.

01:41:36.180 --> 01:41:38.180
So thumbs up on that.

01:41:38.180 --> 01:41:39.180
Okay.

01:41:39.180 --> 01:41:40.180
Do you have motion?

01:41:40.180 --> 01:41:46.180
Mr. President, I make a motion to approve ordinance six dash 2026 for the zoning map amendment

01:41:46.180 --> 01:41:49.180
on Creekview Lane and the Woods Creek path.

01:41:49.180 --> 01:41:50.180
Second.

01:41:51.180 --> 01:41:53.180
I have motion and a second from the board's perspective.

01:41:53.180 --> 01:41:54.180
Any discussion?

01:41:54.180 --> 01:41:57.180
Any questions for Robin?

01:41:57.180 --> 01:41:59.180
Robin's got a question for Robin.

01:41:59.180 --> 01:42:05.180
I didn't hear subject to the condition from from Rob.

01:42:05.180 --> 01:42:09.180
The subject of the conditions as presented.

01:42:09.180 --> 01:42:10.180
Sorry.

01:42:10.180 --> 01:42:13.180
I just had had that one was added from playing commission.

01:42:13.180 --> 01:42:15.180
That's why I wanted to make sure.

01:42:15.180 --> 01:42:16.180
Yes.

01:42:16.180 --> 01:42:17.180
My mistake.

01:42:17.180 --> 01:42:18.180
Yeah.

01:42:19.180 --> 01:42:20.180
Okay.

01:42:20.180 --> 01:42:21.180
Any other questions?

01:42:21.180 --> 01:42:22.180
All right.

01:42:22.180 --> 01:42:25.180
So on this one, again, roll call vote.

01:42:25.180 --> 01:42:26.180
Caris.

01:42:26.180 --> 01:42:27.180
Ben Trini.

01:42:27.180 --> 01:42:28.180
Aye.

01:42:28.180 --> 01:42:29.180
Batia.

01:42:29.180 --> 01:42:30.180
Aye.

01:42:30.180 --> 01:42:31.180
Washburn.

01:42:31.180 --> 01:42:32.180
Aye.

01:42:32.180 --> 01:42:33.180
Pollock.

01:42:33.180 --> 01:42:34.180
Aye.

01:42:34.180 --> 01:42:35.180
DeGroote.

01:42:35.180 --> 01:42:36.180
Aye.

01:42:36.180 --> 01:42:37.180
Emotion.

01:42:37.180 --> 01:42:38.180
Caris.

01:42:38.180 --> 01:42:41.180
Let's go down to discussion.

01:42:41.180 --> 01:42:42.180
The discussion.

01:42:42.180 --> 01:42:55.180
Possible motion regarding settlement at Hood's Creek edition and final flat for SFP 26-0002.

01:42:55.180 --> 01:42:57.180
Creekview Lane.

01:42:57.180 --> 01:42:59.180
All right.

01:42:59.180 --> 01:43:00.180
Same thing.

01:43:00.180 --> 01:43:01.180
Here's the actual subdivision map.

01:43:01.180 --> 01:43:04.180
You can see the lot that I was talking about.

01:43:04.180 --> 01:43:09.180
It's that sort of big house shape one right at the top that's on the intersection of those

01:43:09.180 --> 01:43:10.180
two lanes.

01:43:10.180 --> 01:43:16.180
I don't think anything else meets the RL1 standards and it substantially complies with the preliminary

01:43:16.180 --> 01:43:20.180
plat that was approved by the village board in 2024.

01:43:20.180 --> 01:43:27.180
I will just say a happy note that the developers have said that they are continuing forward

01:43:27.180 --> 01:43:31.180
earlier than expected because home cells are stronger than expected.

01:43:31.180 --> 01:43:38.180
So that is great news and we look forward to getting more homes.

01:43:39.180 --> 01:43:45.180
Mr. President, I make a motion to approve the settlement at Hood's Creek edition number

01:43:45.180 --> 01:43:52.180
six final plot sub division final sub division plot subject to the recommendation containing

01:43:52.180 --> 01:43:53.180
the report.

01:43:53.180 --> 01:43:54.180
Second.

01:43:54.180 --> 01:43:57.180
So I hear a motion and a second.

01:43:57.180 --> 01:44:01.180
Any further discussion from the board or questions for Robin?

01:44:01.180 --> 01:44:03.180
I just have one quick comment.

01:44:03.180 --> 01:44:07.180
I hope that you guys, you know that lot 138.

01:44:08.180 --> 01:44:15.180
All these lots are pretty much the same as when the, you know, when the, this was originally

01:44:15.180 --> 01:44:21.180
designed years and 25 years ago and lot 138.

01:44:21.180 --> 01:44:24.180
I can't dividing it in half to me.

01:44:24.180 --> 01:44:27.180
Just I wonder how the heck you're going to place anything on that.

01:44:27.180 --> 01:44:30.180
So I hope you don't push that too far.

01:44:30.180 --> 01:44:34.180
I hope if it has to stay, it may be too big, but it's okay.

01:44:34.180 --> 01:44:36.180
I mean, yeah.

01:44:37.180 --> 01:44:38.180
I hope so.

01:44:38.180 --> 01:44:39.180
I can't even imagine dividing it.

01:44:39.180 --> 01:44:40.180
I hope so.

01:44:40.180 --> 01:44:41.180
Those are nice big house.

01:44:41.180 --> 01:44:42.180
And they will.

01:44:42.180 --> 01:44:44.180
That's the biggest house in the subdivision.

01:44:44.180 --> 01:44:46.180
I'm not going to lose any sleep out of it.

01:44:46.180 --> 01:44:48.180
Either way, we just got to process.

01:44:48.180 --> 01:44:49.180
They got to do.

01:44:49.180 --> 01:44:50.180
That's all.

01:44:50.180 --> 01:44:51.180
All right.

01:44:51.180 --> 01:44:54.180
Fair enough.

01:44:54.180 --> 01:44:55.180
Roll call vote.

01:44:55.180 --> 01:44:56.180
Caris.

01:44:56.180 --> 01:44:57.180
Ventrini.

01:44:57.180 --> 01:44:58.180
Aye.

01:44:58.180 --> 01:44:59.180
Batia.

01:44:59.180 --> 01:45:00.180
Aye.

01:45:00.180 --> 01:45:01.180
Washburn.

01:45:01.180 --> 01:45:02.180
Aye.

01:45:02.180 --> 01:45:03.180
Pollock.

01:45:03.180 --> 01:45:04.180
Aye.

01:45:04.180 --> 01:45:05.180
DeGroote.

01:45:06.180 --> 01:45:10.180
We have nothing else on the agenda, so I'm good for one last motion.

01:45:10.180 --> 01:45:14.180
Move to adjourn.

01:45:14.180 --> 01:45:16.180
Got a motion and a second to adjourn.

01:45:16.180 --> 01:45:18.180
All in favor signify by saying aye.

01:45:18.180 --> 01:45:19.180
Aye.

01:45:19.180 --> 01:45:20.180
We stand adjourned.

01:45:20.180 --> 01:45:21.180
Thank you very much.