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Finch signed up regarding event space, 06:28.500 --> 06:30.140 nuisance property. 06:30.140 --> 06:33.340 David, if you'd like to join us up at the podium. 06:37.260 --> 06:40.420 Make sure the green light is on, on the microphone. 06:40.420 --> 06:42.140 Name and address for the record. 06:42.140 --> 06:43.660 And the green light, I don't see a green light, 06:43.660 --> 06:45.780 but my name and address is Dave Finch. 06:45.780 --> 06:48.580 Address is 133 South Emerson Road. 06:50.460 --> 06:51.940 Capture good. 06:51.940 --> 06:52.940 All right. 06:53.700 --> 06:55.020 I wanted to talk to you guys tonight. 06:55.020 --> 06:57.020 This is very timely that this happened. 06:57.020 --> 06:58.380 I don't know how much of the Village Board 06:58.380 --> 07:01.700 heard about this already, but on Saturday night, 07:01.700 --> 07:03.820 it was a large, extremely large, 07:03.820 --> 07:06.460 disturbance on Emerson Road. 07:06.460 --> 07:09.900 The entire road was shut down for probably more than an hour 07:09.900 --> 07:12.940 or so, and I'll give you a little bit of a background 07:12.940 --> 07:14.500 of how that happened. 07:14.500 --> 07:18.380 There is a barn that was put in off Emerson Road, 07:18.380 --> 07:19.980 39 South Emerson Road. 07:20.980 --> 07:23.460 The longer story is, we didn't actually look to build there, 07:23.460 --> 07:24.340 but weren't allowed to build there 07:24.340 --> 07:25.740 because it had to share a driveway. 07:25.740 --> 07:27.740 Well, I think that got slipped through 07:27.740 --> 07:29.580 a very large house with foot back there. 07:29.580 --> 07:31.580 That's not a residence. 07:31.580 --> 07:33.100 It is an event space. 07:34.460 --> 07:35.780 It is set up to host events. 07:35.780 --> 07:38.460 It's set up to host 20-something people. 07:38.460 --> 07:41.140 Over the last two years, it's been listed on Airbnb, 07:41.140 --> 07:42.980 on BRBO. 07:42.980 --> 07:44.540 Every single weekend, usually it's a Friday, 07:44.540 --> 07:47.460 Saturday type occupancy. 07:47.460 --> 07:49.580 There's typically bachelor parties there. 07:49.620 --> 07:51.100 It's usually loud music playing a lot. 07:51.100 --> 07:53.300 We've made calls to the police, 07:53.300 --> 07:54.860 not an emergency number in several times 07:54.860 --> 07:57.500 and so will the other neighbors over here. 07:57.500 --> 08:00.380 It's been bad, but it's never escalated to this degree. 08:00.380 --> 08:05.380 On Saturday, there was a published party, 08:05.900 --> 08:08.460 and there were well over 300 people who showed up. 08:08.460 --> 08:10.780 The entire Emerson Road from both sides 08:10.780 --> 08:13.340 of it over a mile away was packed. 08:13.340 --> 08:16.500 I know that it was leased over 30 squad cars that attended. 08:16.500 --> 08:17.700 I have a couple of other neighbors. 08:17.740 --> 08:20.340 We spent, my wife Janice and I spent the day yesterday 08:20.340 --> 08:21.580 walking up and down Emerson Road, 08:21.580 --> 08:23.260 just making sure that everybody was in agreement 08:23.260 --> 08:25.340 that no one supported this. 08:25.340 --> 08:26.460 There's a little bit of research. 08:26.460 --> 08:29.860 It's owned by an out-of-state folks 08:29.860 --> 08:32.500 who established an in-state LLC. 08:32.500 --> 08:35.260 It's owned by 39 South Emerson LLC. 08:36.460 --> 08:39.700 The owners live in North Barrington, Illinois. 08:39.700 --> 08:40.740 They're not really present here. 08:40.740 --> 08:43.300 They just remotely rented out for events on weekends. 08:44.500 --> 08:45.780 Janice and I stopped by this morning 08:45.780 --> 08:47.660 and talked to Sam in Planning and Zoning, 08:47.660 --> 08:48.740 this guy to understand, 08:48.740 --> 08:50.100 hey, how is this even possible? 08:50.100 --> 08:51.340 Is this legit? 08:51.340 --> 08:52.740 Is this even legal? 08:52.740 --> 08:54.620 Short story is the way it's zoned, 08:54.620 --> 08:57.380 because it's zoned residential, it's built residential. 08:57.380 --> 08:59.860 Even though it's strictly an event space, 08:59.860 --> 09:01.740 it's zoned residential, and through Airbnb, 09:01.740 --> 09:03.420 it can be rented out. 09:03.420 --> 09:05.500 So we've also followed up with Airbnb. 09:06.820 --> 09:08.340 Raise our safety concerns. 09:08.340 --> 09:09.540 Of course, they're listed on our platform 09:09.540 --> 09:10.620 so they get banned off Airbnb. 09:10.620 --> 09:13.380 They're gonna have the RBO there right away. 09:13.380 --> 09:15.940 This weekend on Saturday, the party was dispersed 09:15.940 --> 09:17.180 and they were still there on Sunday. 09:17.180 --> 09:19.340 I'm sure some of our officers know that they were called there. 09:19.340 --> 09:21.860 On Sunday night, they were well after one o'clock 09:21.860 --> 09:23.860 in the morning, fights, noise. 09:23.860 --> 09:27.140 We heard swearing into the ball night long. 09:27.140 --> 09:28.740 That's the awareness of it. 09:28.740 --> 09:31.380 What our ask really is, is to take a look 09:31.380 --> 09:32.580 at how we're managing this. 09:32.580 --> 09:35.940 There's a very small amount of these rental properties 09:35.940 --> 09:37.820 that are short-term rental properties. 09:37.820 --> 09:38.900 This is an event space. 09:38.900 --> 09:41.540 It's not a house that people are showing up to visit with folks. 09:41.540 --> 09:43.220 It's a party space. 09:43.220 --> 09:45.380 And we think that we may need to update 09:45.420 --> 09:47.020 some of our regulations in town to say, 09:47.020 --> 09:48.740 how do we deal with this? 09:48.740 --> 09:51.540 Before we get 20 or 30 of them, 09:51.540 --> 09:53.460 we only have two or three of these that applies to. 09:53.460 --> 09:56.140 So can we take a look at the town ordinances 09:56.140 --> 09:58.420 and regulations that allow for something like this 09:58.420 --> 10:01.660 so that we can, I mean, it was really unsafe, 10:01.660 --> 10:05.220 like scary, scary, unsafe, sadly. 10:05.220 --> 10:09.020 All inner city kids from everywhere showing up. 10:09.020 --> 10:13.420 They had, I think Sarah sent a listing of their email 10:13.420 --> 10:15.340 that they sent out to groups saying, 10:15.340 --> 10:18.260 hey, show up with your own bottle and your own weed, 10:18.260 --> 10:19.180 and we'll party here. 10:19.180 --> 10:24.220 So it was not a safe environment for a while. 10:24.220 --> 10:26.780 So anyway, that's why I know them all the time already. 10:26.780 --> 10:29.860 Just wanted to plant the seed and ask for some help with that. 10:29.860 --> 10:31.900 We'll run down what we can with planning zoning already 10:31.900 --> 10:34.020 asked for at least a check with the permits 10:34.020 --> 10:35.660 to make sure they were filed correctly. 10:35.660 --> 10:38.660 And we spoke with Jenny over in the police department 10:38.660 --> 10:41.500 and also say, we'll continue to call when we have issues 10:41.500 --> 10:44.940 so that proper that nuisance is documented well. 10:44.940 --> 10:46.700 We got police at the back of the room, too, 10:46.700 --> 10:48.780 if you wanted to have any further conversation. 10:48.780 --> 10:50.740 Any thoughts from the village attorney? 10:54.340 --> 10:57.260 Just off the top of my head without researching it, 10:57.260 --> 11:00.820 my instinct is that the solution to this issue 11:00.820 --> 11:05.260 is not a zoning or because state law has, 11:06.460 --> 11:08.580 unfortunately we hear this a lot. 11:08.580 --> 11:12.580 State law has constrained our local government's power. 11:12.580 --> 11:14.980 And one of the ways that has done so 11:14.980 --> 11:17.020 is to regulate short-term rentals, 11:17.020 --> 11:19.060 which we're generally not able to do. 11:19.060 --> 11:22.940 However, if it's a place, a disorderly house, 11:22.940 --> 11:25.220 things like that, there are other ways 11:25.220 --> 11:28.300 we can enforce against the property owner. 11:28.300 --> 11:32.580 And I think that's usually the best strategy 11:32.580 --> 11:37.580 is to enforce our nuisance laws and things like that 11:38.220 --> 11:40.660 against the owner rather than the, 11:40.660 --> 11:42.100 and not to say you can't give tickets 11:42.100 --> 11:47.100 to the people who are creating the problem the night of, 11:47.100 --> 11:49.140 but usually to get to the root of the problem 11:49.140 --> 11:51.700 you have to hold the owner of the property account. 11:51.700 --> 11:52.540 It'll just happen, yeah. 11:52.540 --> 11:54.860 So I think they're rented out for next week already. 11:54.860 --> 11:57.820 And I don't know, we'll see how this goes. 11:57.820 --> 12:01.300 But I would encourage the neighbors to do what you've been 12:01.300 --> 12:03.060 doing, which is contact in the police 12:03.060 --> 12:07.980 because the more record that the village has 12:07.980 --> 12:10.020 to rely upon of these incidents, 12:10.020 --> 12:14.420 the better equipped we will be to do something about it. 12:14.420 --> 12:15.420 Absolutely. 12:15.420 --> 12:18.180 We'll continue to be more actionable we can be. 12:18.180 --> 12:19.620 Can we look into, do we? 12:19.620 --> 12:20.340 Oh, we can't. 12:20.340 --> 12:22.980 We're kind of off the agenda already. 12:22.980 --> 12:24.620 Oh, I thought you asked for comments. 12:24.620 --> 12:25.620 So I was ahead of comment. 12:25.620 --> 12:28.420 I was having comment from the attorney. 12:28.420 --> 12:30.700 Yeah, that's the other thing. 12:30.700 --> 12:32.500 Open meetings laws are something else 12:32.540 --> 12:37.780 that the state has regulated for local governments. 12:37.780 --> 12:42.100 And we're generally not able to discuss something 12:42.100 --> 12:44.380 that's not on the agenda for the meeting. 12:44.380 --> 12:45.220 Fair enough. 12:45.220 --> 12:48.420 We can have a very limited response to public comment, 12:48.420 --> 12:51.700 but we can't have a broader discussion. 12:51.700 --> 12:52.580 I completely acknowledge that. 12:52.580 --> 12:54.300 And we're just very lucky that we stopped 12:54.300 --> 12:55.300 into talking to planning and zoning 12:55.300 --> 12:56.500 and saw the meeting was tonight. 12:56.500 --> 12:57.660 So we took the opportunity. 12:57.660 --> 13:00.140 So rather than wait a month for a strike 13:00.140 --> 13:01.620 from why the iron is hot, while it's really fresh 13:01.660 --> 13:04.140 and everybody's mind, the scar is still wide open 13:04.140 --> 13:05.420 for everybody in a neighborhood right now. 13:05.420 --> 13:08.100 So that's why we just wanted to make sure you guys 13:08.100 --> 13:10.740 were aware and can be, so you don't find out 13:10.740 --> 13:11.580 about a month later. 13:11.580 --> 13:14.700 Yeah, and that's why we explain it, 13:14.700 --> 13:16.420 especially for elected officials. 13:16.420 --> 13:20.140 There's laws about these agendas 13:20.140 --> 13:22.460 and that they're posted and they're public 13:22.460 --> 13:24.660 and they can only discuss things that were on the agenda. 13:24.660 --> 13:28.740 So that's why we don't engage with people generally, 13:28.740 --> 13:32.180 especially the trustees, because they're the ones 13:33.220 --> 13:34.420 that the law applies to. 13:34.420 --> 13:35.260 Understood. 13:35.260 --> 13:36.860 I assume that's why I would leave my contact information 13:36.860 --> 13:37.700 on there as well. 13:37.700 --> 13:38.540 Thank you. 13:38.540 --> 13:39.460 I'd be happy to do that. 13:39.460 --> 13:42.180 And I'm sure my other neighbors would be happy to do it too. 13:42.180 --> 13:44.020 We can, like I said, we can't miss the whole street 13:44.020 --> 13:45.900 and hand it out my contact information 13:45.900 --> 13:48.460 so I can connect with all the other neighbors as well. 13:48.460 --> 13:49.620 Appreciate your thoughts. 13:49.620 --> 13:51.100 All right, thank you. 13:51.100 --> 13:54.100 Anybody else willing to speak public comment? 13:54.100 --> 13:57.620 I've only got Mr. Finch signed up. 13:59.020 --> 14:00.180 Going once, going twice. 14:01.100 --> 14:01.940 Oh. 14:12.220 --> 14:13.700 Giving your paperwork, please. 14:21.060 --> 14:21.900 Just. 14:25.340 --> 14:26.580 Go to the podium. 14:26.580 --> 14:29.580 Just for the other guy, we're tricky. 14:29.580 --> 14:30.580 It's tricky. 14:32.780 --> 14:35.580 Rodney, name and address for the record. 14:37.940 --> 14:40.900 Address is 1514 Derby Avenue. 14:42.180 --> 14:45.980 I'm one of the people in Lake Park along the Lakebank 14:45.980 --> 14:50.340 and you told us that the reason our property tax is mine 14:50.340 --> 14:53.780 went up 800% just on my land, 14:53.820 --> 14:58.140 that the reason that did that was because of a court case. 14:58.140 --> 14:59.860 Cannot find the court case. 15:00.780 --> 15:03.460 My neighbors, lawyer couldn't find the court case 15:03.460 --> 15:05.060 and I can't find the court case. 15:05.060 --> 15:08.540 Could you tell me what court case you're talking about? 15:10.340 --> 15:11.340 Who told you that? 15:12.220 --> 15:15.780 When I came in for the, yeah, 15:15.780 --> 15:19.540 when I came in to argue about 800% raise 15:20.060 --> 15:25.060 in my property tax or in my value of my property. 15:25.420 --> 15:28.860 I mean, if someone at border review told you that, 15:30.260 --> 15:33.020 yeah, this isn't the border review. 15:33.020 --> 15:33.940 This is the village border. 15:33.940 --> 15:35.740 They wouldn't give me the answer now. 15:35.740 --> 15:38.780 I mean, my only instinct would be, 15:38.780 --> 15:40.180 and we can't have a big deal.