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Members of the public are welcome to provide comments

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on any matter.

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Please listen for the President to recognize you.

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State your name and address for the public record.

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Comments are limited to three minutes.

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We have David Finch signed up regarding event space,

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nuisance property.

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David, if you'd like to join us up at the podium.

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Make sure the green light is on, on the microphone.

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Name and address for the record.

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And the green light, I don't see a green light,

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but my name and address is Dave Finch.

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Address is 133 South Emerson Road.

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Capture good.

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All right.

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I wanted to talk to you guys tonight.

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This is very timely that this happened.

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I don't know how much of the Village Board

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heard about this already, but on Saturday night,

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it was a large, extremely large,

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disturbance on Emerson Road.

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The entire road was shut down for probably more than an hour

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or so, and I'll give you a little bit of a background

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of how that happened.

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There is a barn that was put in off Emerson Road,

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39 South Emerson Road.

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The longer story is, we didn't actually look to build there,

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but weren't allowed to build there

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because it had to share a driveway.

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Well, I think that got slipped through

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a very large house with foot back there.

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That's not a residence.

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It is an event space.

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It is set up to host events.

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It's set up to host 20-something people.

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Over the last two years, it's been listed on Airbnb,

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on BRBO.

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Every single weekend, usually it's a Friday,

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Saturday type occupancy.

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There's typically bachelor parties there.

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It's usually loud music playing a lot.

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We've made calls to the police,

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not an emergency number in several times

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and so will the other neighbors over here.

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It's been bad, but it's never escalated to this degree.

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On Saturday, there was a published party,

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and there were well over 300 people who showed up.

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The entire Emerson Road from both sides

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of it over a mile away was packed.

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I know that it was leased over 30 squad cars that attended.

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I have a couple of other neighbors.

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We spent, my wife Janice and I spent the day yesterday

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walking up and down Emerson Road,

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just making sure that everybody was in agreement

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that no one supported this.

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There's a little bit of research.

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It's owned by an out-of-state folks

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who established an in-state LLC.

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It's owned by 39 South Emerson LLC.

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The owners live in North Barrington, Illinois.

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They're not really present here.

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They just remotely rented out for events on weekends.

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Janice and I stopped by this morning

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and talked to Sam in Planning and Zoning,

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this guy to understand,

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hey, how is this even possible?

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Is this legit?

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Is this even legal?

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Short story is the way it's zoned,

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because it's zoned residential, it's built residential.

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Even though it's strictly an event space,

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it's zoned residential, and through Airbnb,

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it can be rented out.

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So we've also followed up with Airbnb.

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Raise our safety concerns.

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Of course, they're listed on our platform

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so they get banned off Airbnb.

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They're gonna have the RBO there right away.

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This weekend on Saturday, the party was dispersed

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and they were still there on Sunday.

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I'm sure some of our officers know that they were called there.

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On Sunday night, they were well after one o'clock

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in the morning, fights, noise.

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We heard swearing into the ball night long.

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That's the awareness of it.

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What our ask really is, is to take a look

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at how we're managing this.

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There's a very small amount of these rental properties

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that are short-term rental properties.

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This is an event space.

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It's not a house that people are showing up to visit with folks.

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It's a party space.

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And we think that we may need to update

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some of our regulations in town to say,

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how do we deal with this?

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Before we get 20 or 30 of them,

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we only have two or three of these that applies to.

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So can we take a look at the town ordinances

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and regulations that allow for something like this

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so that we can, I mean, it was really unsafe,

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like scary, scary, unsafe, sadly.

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All inner city kids from everywhere showing up.

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They had, I think Sarah sent a listing of their email

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that they sent out to groups saying,

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hey, show up with your own bottle and your own weed,

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and we'll party here.

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So it was not a safe environment for a while.

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So anyway, that's why I know them all the time already.

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Just wanted to plant the seed and ask for some help with that.

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We'll run down what we can with planning zoning already

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asked for at least a check with the permits

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to make sure they were filed correctly.

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And we spoke with Jenny over in the police department

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and also say, we'll continue to call when we have issues

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so that proper that nuisance is documented well.

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We got police at the back of the room, too,

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if you wanted to have any further conversation.

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Any thoughts from the village attorney?

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Just off the top of my head without researching it,

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my instinct is that the solution to this issue

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is not a zoning or because state law has,

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unfortunately we hear this a lot.

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State law has constrained our local government's power.

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And one of the ways that has done so

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is to regulate short-term rentals,

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which we're generally not able to do.

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However, if it's a place, a disorderly house,

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things like that, there are other ways

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we can enforce against the property owner.

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And I think that's usually the best strategy

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is to enforce our nuisance laws and things like that

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against the owner rather than the,

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and not to say you can't give tickets

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to the people who are creating the problem the night of,

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but usually to get to the root of the problem

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you have to hold the owner of the property account.

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It'll just happen, yeah.

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So I think they're rented out for next week already.

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And I don't know, we'll see how this goes.

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But I would encourage the neighbors to do what you've been

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doing, which is contact in the police

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because the more record that the village has

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to rely upon of these incidents,

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the better equipped we will be to do something about it.

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Absolutely.

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We'll continue to be more actionable we can be.

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Can we look into, do we?

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Oh, we can't.

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We're kind of off the agenda already.

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Oh, I thought you asked for comments.

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So I was ahead of comment.

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I was having comment from the attorney.

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Yeah, that's the other thing.

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Open meetings laws are something else

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that the state has regulated for local governments.

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And we're generally not able to discuss something

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that's not on the agenda for the meeting.

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Fair enough.

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We can have a very limited response to public comment,

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but we can't have a broader discussion.

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I completely acknowledge that.

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And we're just very lucky that we stopped

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into talking to planning and zoning

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and saw the meeting was tonight.

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So we took the opportunity.

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So rather than wait a month for a strike

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from why the iron is hot, while it's really fresh

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and everybody's mind, the scar is still wide open

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for everybody in a neighborhood right now.

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So that's why we just wanted to make sure you guys

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were aware and can be, so you don't find out

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about a month later.

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Yeah, and that's why we explain it,

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especially for elected officials.

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There's laws about these agendas

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and that they're posted and they're public

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and they can only discuss things that were on the agenda.

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So that's why we don't engage with people generally,

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especially the trustees, because they're the ones

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that the law applies to.

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Understood.

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I assume that's why I would leave my contact information

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on there as well.

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Thank you.

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I'd be happy to do that.

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And I'm sure my other neighbors would be happy to do it too.

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We can, like I said, we can't miss the whole street

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and hand it out my contact information

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so I can connect with all the other neighbors as well.

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Appreciate your thoughts.

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All right, thank you.

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Anybody else willing to speak public comment?

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I've only got Mr. Finch signed up.

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Going once, going twice.

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Oh.

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Giving your paperwork, please.

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Just.

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Go to the podium.

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Just for the other guy, we're tricky.

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It's tricky.

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Rodney, name and address for the record.

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Address is 1514 Derby Avenue.

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I'm one of the people in Lake Park along the Lakebank

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and you told us that the reason our property tax is mine

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went up 800% just on my land,

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that the reason that did that was because of a court case.

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Cannot find the court case.

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My neighbors, lawyer couldn't find the court case

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and I can't find the court case.

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Could you tell me what court case you're talking about?

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Who told you that?

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When I came in for the, yeah,

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when I came in to argue about 800% raise

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in my property tax or in my value of my property.

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I mean, if someone at border review told you that,

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yeah, this isn't the border review.

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This is the village border.

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They wouldn't give me the answer now.

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I mean, my only instinct would be,

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and we can't have a big deal.

