704, I will call this meeting to order.
If everybody would please stand
and we will recite the Pledge of Allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States
of America and to the Republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.
Board members, I just, and community members,
I just want to let everybody know that our admin team
are all on vacation except for Mr. Leiderman.
He's the last man standing here in person,
but our admin team are connected virtually,
so you will be hearing from them virtually.
So board members, the request is that when you're speaking,
please use your microphone because that is the only way
that the admin team can hear you.
So we will try this with roll call first.
OK.
Joe Maddock Nelson.
Here.
Angie Shriver.
Kristen Matt Miller.
Daniel Nicholson.
Here.
Gene Adams.
Here.
Mike Parisic.
Here.
Melissa Cornelius.
Here.
Randy Myers.
Here.
Danny Piot.
Here.
Letter D is district mission, and I've asked Melissa
if she would please read the district mission, please.
Mission driven by purpose guided by integrity
defined by success.
Vision, build a proud Anego community.
Model, don't talk about it, be about it.
Thank you so much.
Number two, consent agenda.
Letter A, approval of agenda, minutes,
financial reports, report of retirement and resignation,
report of new hires and overnight school activity trips.
I will be looking for a motion, please.
I like to make a motion to amend the agenda
and move the pool conversation forward.
I think there's a lot of people here
that want to discuss that tonight.
And to be considered of everybody's time,
I would like to move that forward.
OK, we will take that vote to the board.
I'll just remind the board that the discussion is among the board,
not the people that are here.
The discussion for the pool is among the board members tonight.
No open floor discussion.
Sure.
So the motion has been made to move letter G under number four,
letter G before all other business.
And I think, Mike, do you want to add any more to your motion?
No, I just want to move it forward.
OK.
Any discussion or comments of the motion brought to us?
My question I have is, I know Kristen had stated with her work
schedule she'd be coming late.
Did she have a time frame in mind?
If I recall, she said 715 that she would be here.
OK.
Just knowing that I don't know if Ms. Shiber can be here now,
but.
Angie is on the virtual link.
OK.
OK, I do know that Angie was in work in Marquette today.
She let me know last night.
And she would try to come on if she can and if she has the sale.
Service ability.
We can pause for a few minutes.
If the board wishes to, we can take a recess
and hold the meeting until Kristen gets here.
If that's what the board wishes to do.
If we want to move this item forward.
Or we can move it anywhere in the agenda.
If we wanted to move it up to before or right
after the administration reports.
And that would give Kristen a chance to get here.
I'd be fine with that.
So Mike, you want to amend your motion
to move the pool up to after the administration reports?
Yes, that's fine.
OK, so now the amendment to the motion on the floor
is to move the item number 4G after the administration
reports.
Any discussion or questions of amending the agenda?
OK.
Hearing Nader, you're ready for a vote.
This is the amendment to the motion that's on the floor.
Your voting device is now open.
Make sure your name is on the back of your device.
My number 8.
I vote, yes.
That is acceptable.
Would anyone like to change their vote?
Hearing no one changing the vote, the vote is now closed.
And the motion carries.
The amendment to the motion carries
with gene voting yes on the amendment.
Now that becomes the main motion.
Are there any other questions or discussion
of the main motion on the floor, which
is to move item 4G to right after the administration reports?
Hearing no questions or discussion,
the voting device is now open.
OK, would anyone like to change their vote?
The vote is now closed.
And that motion carries.
Yeah, gene, it worked.
So we will go back to item 2, consent agenda, approval
of agenda, minutes, financial reports,
report of retirement and resignation,
report of new hires in overnight school activity trips.
I'll be looking for a motion.
Danny, I've got a question.
I had a question about the new hire in terms of a license.
And I didn't get an answer back by email.
And so I'm not sure if I should not approve that without seeing
that, or if I can remove it from, I'm not sure.
What do you recommend that I do there?
So I know our administration is listening,
and I think they know who you're talking about.
Obviously, we can't disclose the name of the person publicly.
Mrs. Oginski, do you have an answer for that person that
was in question?
I do.
And it's part of operations, the day-to-day operations.
And that person is a new hire.
And it's oftentimes that new hires under that classification
do not come with that.
It's part of the support that they receive
from the district with onboarding.
Oh, so they'll get the license.
But they don't have a license now, basically.
Correct.
It's a very common practice because not oftentimes
do people make the decision that they
want to entertain going into the educational field
until after they've been hired.
But yes, it's very common practice.
OK, thank you.
Uh-huh.
Now, I will entertain a motion for the consent agenda.
I move to accept the consent agenda.
Motion on the floor is to accept the consent agenda
of approving the June 8 special called board meeting minutes,
report of retirements and resignations,
report of new hires, overnight school activity trips,
finance reports for May 26 and June 26.
And consideration of all current bills
checks number 9750 through 9837, an amount of $332,142.08.
ACH is numbers 252601377 through 2520601535,
in the amount of $666,917.88, and wire transfers
the amount of $16,662.50 for a total of $1,015,722.46.
That is the consent agenda.
Any questions?
Randy, would you like to speak to your motion?
No.
Any questions of the motion on the floor?
Just a statement or feedback excitement maybe is the best
word for the number of applicants, 730 and 41 applicants.
Any other questions or discussion for the motion
on the floor?
I need to abstain from a couple of the checks
due to be unemployed part-time at Krieger and Steinfest
and Lamer's Bus.
Check number 148914001430 and 1490.
Deanna, did you get all of those numbers?
Yes, I did.
OK, thank you.
Any other questions or discussion?
With the resignations and people leaving the district,
this is a concern for me.
Are we doing any exit interviews at all?
I know that was something that we've
done in the past years ago, but as of recent,
has that been happening, do you know?
To my knowledge, I'm not aware of that,
but that, again, that is an operational, not a board
level discussion.
So we'll ask Mrs. Oginski to answer that question for you.
So currently, I am not 100% certain in the past we were.
I am sure that you are fully aware, too,
that we still have a vacancy in our HR department.
And since that vacancy happened, I
am not sure if our one person who's holding down payroll
and HR is continuing to do that.
I'm just not sure.
Any other questions of the motion on the floor, Danny?
I just have a question.
So on the resignations here, one of them
being a foreign language, is that now
going to be taken out of the curriculum,
or is there a substitute for that?
No, it's not taken out.
The position is posted on weekend.
And I just interrupt here.
I just want to let you know I'm on through Google Meet.
This is Angie.
OK, Angie, thank you for coming in.
The record will reflect that you joined the meeting at 717.
717.
Are there any other questions of the motion on the floor?
OK.
Then the voting devices before you and the vote is now open.
Angie, were you involved with the discussion enough
to vote on the consent agenda?
Yes.
So what is your vote?
And Nathan will put it up on the screen for you.
Yes.
Sorry about that.
Would anyone like to change their vote?
And the vote's closed.
And the motion carries.
OK, moving on to item number three, administration reports.
I will turn this over to our district administrator,
Mrs. Oginski.
Thank you.
So first, we have the director of business services,
the monthly budget update.
The report is attached.
And Mrs. Fosbinder is present remotely,
if anyone has questions.
Kelly, and this is Mike.
I have a question on your report.
It says the budget is currently tracking, as expected,
as not projecting a deficit at this time.
I guess I'm curious how that works with everything
that's going on with the Aquatic Center.
Yep, that's correct.
And as you are on the board, as you continue,
we haven't had a committee meeting
in which we go through the details of these.
But it's always 10 and 27 funds.
It's not discussing fund 80.
Shouldn't we be looking at all of the district finances
though?
So at the committee level, we review fund 10 and fund 27
every single month.
And moving forward, we can include fund 80,
if that is something that is decided.
Kelly, that would be something that you can speak with,
your chairman, Danny, about going forward
for those new committee meetings.
Can we talk about fund 80 without currently having
a fund 80 employee, like a liaison position?
I know that sounds like a really silly question,
but that's been one of the significant barriers
with the Aquatics Center situation.
Maybe that's something we could follow up on or check in.
I don't disagree with including that in the committee.
But that has been one of two significant barriers
with the Aquatics Center, so just to make sure
we're covering our basis with that.
Kelly, I'll let you move.
I think that's something we would also
need to consult with Davis on.
I think I agree with you, Jill.
Danny, so when I look at the attachment
for the monthly budget updates, is there a way
that we can actually get a monthly balance sheet P&L
from fiscal year to date to the last closed month
so that we can actually see numbers?
I mean, everything sounds very positive
on this informational sheet, but I really
would like to see some sort of number
so that we can actually make decisions in both.
So Danny, those are things that we do at the committee level.
Since there hasn't been a committee with this new board,
that's something that you haven't experienced yet.
But yes, we go through numbers with the budget each month
at the finance committee.
Thank you.
You'll see that at your next committee meeting.
Any other discussion or questions?
OK.
Moving on to item B, director of people's services
and special education.
Ms. Wagner is not present with us,
but her report is attached.
Are there any questions?
OK, item C, director of buildings and grounds.
Mr. Leiberman is present if there are any questions.
I have a question, Jake.
Have there been any movement on the facilities issues
at the aquatic center?
Any of those maintenance issues?
Nice shirt, by the way.
Thank you.
No, after board directive that we are not to operate the pool
at all, I have been nonexistent at that facility at all.
There's nothing that I'm aware of for update.
And I know that the YMCA is operating it in the meantime,
so I don't know what work they've done or not done.
I assume it's pretty minimal, kind of a holding pattern,
if you will, if something broke,
I'm sure that they make sure we could still open the doors.
But prior to that, actually, I want to correct one thing
on that, there was a door operator that
was in question for quite some time
and rate at the same time that the board had made
that directive, Davis, advised me to go ahead
and get that operator finished, so that was completed.
But other than that, there's been nothing else
that I'm aware of.
Thank you.
Just for transparency, to be very clear about that,
the directive was specific to fund $80.
Need personnel needs to be funded through fund 80.
So it wasn't a directive to not have any involvement
from the district with the pool.
We simply do not have a fund 80 employee.
So that is the personnel barrier.
Deanna, let the record reflect that Kristen came in at 7.24.
Are there any other questions for Mr. Leidman?
Danny?
Jake, are we able to ask how is
the construction going on the new elementary school?
Is there any updates we can give the community or board?
Yeah, I mean, I could talk for hours, honestly.
I mean, just some keynotes.
Yeah, I mean, we're probably about 50% of the buildings
dried in, meaning the roof is on, water tight, if you will.
Still some exterior work that has to be done.
Well, the other 50% is going to be dried in in the next,
approximately three weeks here.
They're really pushing hard to get those structures completed.
That's kind of a big milestone in construction
is when you can say that you're dried in and the roof is sealed.
I'm trying to think of big milestones.
A lot of mechanical stuff is set in place
in the main mechanical room.
The secondary mechanical room that's
in the upper level of the academic area,
that's kind of still waiting to be dried in, right?
We don't want to put too much equipment in place there
other than the main air handlers,
because they still have to protect them until they're dried in.
So, mechanically, it's going well.
Excavation is going really good.
They got the driveway cut in out to fifth ab now.
They're really kind of starting to shape up
what the site will look like.
If you drive by, you can see where the driveways are
and the playground area is.
It's kind of starting to take shape
where people could notice that by driving through.
So, that's exciting, too.
I don't know how long do you want me to talk on it?
I mean, committee, we can really go more in depth, but.
Board members, I do want to bring everybody to the awareness
that if you would like to take a tour of the building,
you can do so by contacting Jake and setting that up
a date and time.
Give him a couple days notice so he can make sure
that safety is a big issue so you can let him know
and he can set something up for you to go into or that.
Okay.
How's the improvements at the high school coming along?
Good, Nessie, it's pretty well tore apart right now.
They got most of the air handlers
set back in place in the mechanical rooms.
That was kind of the biggest first milestone
that we wanted to hit is get everything demoed
and then get the new unit set in place.
So, they still have a few smaller ones
that they're aligning and getting adjustments to.
But overall, they're well on their way,
getting them in place.
Fire alarm replacement, they're started.
A lot of the demo's done.
They're starting to reinstall now.
So, that's great.
Exquerading outside, if anyone drives by there,
you can see that site's pretty well unrecognizable right now.
It's pretty tore up.
A lot of stuff getting done.
Krieger and Steinfest is doing a great job.
I think they got three crews on there right now,
Shane said, and they're pushing hard.
So, we're a little too early to know for sure exactly
where we're gonna land for completion date.
Our target is August 17th to be completed
on that entire site with all the work.
I know that that's aggressive,
but that's kind of set by when we start getting staff
occupying the building again.
If we don't have enough time,
we don't get blessings by Mother Nature
to allow us to keep working on it.
We do have plans in place to make sure
that we prioritize the certain areas
to get that building reopened, no problem.
We won't have any issues like that
so we can see at this point.
What's going on though?
It's a very exciting lot of work that needed to be done.
About $9 million at the high school of work getting done
and the majority of that will be done this summer.
So, that's when you break it down by week,
it's close to $1 million a week, so it's exciting.
A lot of work in the short amount of time.
A lot of work that's been in our capital improvement plan
for years that we have not been able to touch.
So, it's a big milestone.
Yeah, and if you kind of look back at where we were
pre-referring them discussions with budgeting
and everything, you know, that high school
wasn't even guaranteed to be done.
It was kind of the wish list if we got favorable pricing.
We would be able to flow into that what I call the 61
category, and then we would be able to do that
category that we talked about a lot, pre-referring them.
So, to be able to get those items done
with no more cost to the taxpayers is huge.
Mike, with the rest of the referendum work,
is it correct to state that the middle school work
is going to happen next year at a later date,
along with the central office construction.
I've been getting a lot of questions
and I guess I don't know the answer to that.
So, if you could share that out for the community,
that's going to happen.
So, both of those projects we did bid out,
I don't think that we got favorable pricing
for a number of reasons.
Sometimes we just didn't get a lot of interest
due to the backlog that other companies have had.
You know, we're not, you know, in a construction hub,
like, you know, the big cities are.
So, sometimes you just kind of fall into that weird situation
where you need a big contractor to do these jobs.
It's too big for our locals and, you know,
it's kind of not the low hanging fruit for them.
You know, if the market has a lot of work,
sometimes they pass on jobs that are perfect fit.
And I certainly understand that.
But at the same time, to be responsible with tax dollars,
Ms. Oginski and I looked at the numbers that came in
and just felt like it was not in line with our budget,
not realistic numbers, had the discussion
with blue design, got their take on it.
We think that we can make a few adjustments to scope
and allow more time for them to prepare,
give them another year.
Every time you move stuff down the road,
you do have some inflation cost,
which is always, you know, part of the equation
that you try to balance.
But the numbers that we got were just,
we felt very outside the budget and not a good spend.
So we're gonna, we're gonna re-bid those
and I expect those numbers to come in better
as far as exactly when that work will be complete.
You never know until you get the final bids.
Contractors will put, you know, completion dates
or timelines or things like that within their bid documents.
So you never know for sure,
but the target is for next summer, yes.
And obviously, you know, with the central office,
again, that's gonna be the last piece of the puzzle, right?
Like we talked about the whole time.
So more to come on that.
And this might be a combined question for you and Kelly,
but is there a deadline to use the funds
for the middle school and central office?
So do we have to get the work done
than a certain amount of time?
Or can we keep carrying that money over
until we get appropriate bids?
I would defer to Kelly.
There is deadlines, but I just wanted to be cognizant
of staying on the agenda.
I'm not sure if we are floating into topics
that are not necessarily on this agenda piece.
So I would defer to the board president on that
or Mrs. Oginski, but I don't want to start adding
into things that might not actually be on the agenda.
Kelly, I just motioned to Danny to put that on here's agenda
for the committee meeting coming up in a couple of weeks.
That's something that you can bring light
to where those are with the referendum dollars.
All right, any other questions for Jake?
I just have one last comment for Danny.
I just wanna make sure that the community
understands the appreciation that I have
and I think all the contractors have
for dealing with some of the inconveniences
we kind of take for granted how important our schools are
to our community and kind of taking that piece
out of the puzzle for even a three month window.
I'm sure ends in hardships that we don't even recognize.
Certainly there are some that we have recognized
that I've heard of and I apologize for any inconveniences,
but really just thank the community
for their support not only in passing their referendum,
but also their tolerance while this project gets completed.
And once we get this work done,
it's gonna be a huge asset to the community students staff
for hopefully another 30 some years
before we have to look at this type of remodeling again.
So thank you to the community for their initial support
and I'm going support.
Thank you, Jake.
Okay, Mrs. Oginski, we'll move on to the next.
Okay, Item D, Director of Technology Report is posted
and Mrs. Mushak is available if anyone has questions.
Okay, Item E, Director of Curriculum and Instruction Report.
Mrs. Stutzreem is available by remote and her report
is attached if anyone has questions.
Okay, Item F, Superintendent Report.
Just a quick overview.
We had our end-of-the-year celebration
and retiree recognition where we had lots of great things
to celebrate for the accomplishments of the year.
We did this as an entire district the day
that the students were present half a day.
The remainder of that day was to celebrate with staff
and our retirees at the volunteer.
We also had a meeting with Sue
to review the bids submitted for FFNE
which is furniture fixtures any for John H. Bradley,
elementary degree and we awarded that bid to EBI
and we've notified them and we're scheduling meetings
to work out the draw schedules and whatnot with them.
Continued staffing meetings with Ms. Fosbinner,
Ms. Stutzreem and Ms. Wagner to determine placements
and openings.
This also includes meeting with Jade to update we can
and follow up with the interview process
during the vacancy in our HR position
and to check in on accepted and declined offers.
It's always typically a daily occurrence.
I think Danny Nicholson can also speak to that
and many days it's multiple times a day
of checking in to see where we are in the process.
Budget and draw schedule meetings with Ms. Fosbinner,
Ms. Moshek and Mr. Leiderman regarding budgets
for referendum work at John H. Bradley
and the high school to make sure
that everything is in alignment
with pay schedules for work completed.
I've submitted our annual calendar report
and we've had a meeting with Mr. Jokes
to determine who the coach for leader and me will be
for Annago and it's very exciting
because we're actually getting a coach
who has done some work in our district before
with through other consulting firms.
So we're very excited to welcome her back
to our staff and our students.
And it's great to have someone that has some familiarity
with our community and our district.
And that's the end of my report.
Any questions?
Okay.
Mr. Krip.
Mr. Jinske, I wanna go back to the curriculum
and instruction because as we were moving on,
Randy was coming up to the microphone to ask a question
and I wanna let him be able to ask his question, Amy.
Just the overall growth,
they talked about the improvement in the scores
for the ACTs and there was certainly dramatic improvements
for between 24 and 25 and 25 and 26.
But going back a few more years to let us know
if that's a trend or just whether 24, 25 was an off year
would be informational that we could follow trends
rather than just a one day period for future reports.
Yes, I can bring future or the past like five, six years
worth of ACT scores.
And I can bring that to the next committee.
But one thing I do wanna highlight
and on behalf of the high school staff and students,
these are their scores.
I'm just the messenger to the board tonight
regarding that and the celebration around that is
there's one part to look at the composite score
and there's another part to look at the students,
the percentage of students who met proficiency.
So when you're looking through,
there's kind of two avenues that we look at our ACT
and create ACT scores around.
So we do know that we need to keep gaining
on our composites or we did go up this year,
but last year I believe we did go down
and I can get that data for you.
But this year we saw an incredible amount of growth
of kids who went over that proficient line
for each of those different subgroups
like English, math, reading, science, et cetera.
So there's two points when we kind of go
through our ACT training.
We really are wanting our students
to be over that proficiency line
and have more students becoming percentage
or having more students over that proficiency line
with percentages and also we want to look
at that composite score.
So I can grab that data for you for next time,
some historical around the ACT.
But this year I will say we had more growth of percentage
over that line of proficiency,
which means our kids are moving in the right direction,
especially our kids meeting three or four benchmarks.
I think sometimes we focus a lot
on the students who need interventions.
The students who might need some extra support,
but this is showing that our students
who are proficient and maybe advanced
are meeting three or four of those benchmarks.
And that's a huge jump that we haven't seen
in the past with our data.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
Jill, you'll add that to your agenda
for your committee meeting.
Come right up.
Thank you.
All right, moving on to item number four
and Kristen, what we have done,
we amended, like made the motion to amend the agenda
to bring item four G up to the top.
Actually, we were bringing that up to the very top
before consent agenda,
but we wanted you to be part of the discussion.
And so the board decided to put that as number one
for board action.
All right, so item number four,
letter G discussion and possible action
on current pool finances
and continued operation.
Searching, looking for a motion, please.
Mr. Chair, I move to rescind the motion made on March 18th
that said only fund 80 would be used for the operation
and maintenance of the aquatic center.
Okay.
I don't mean to interrupt Danny,
but since we've moved this, I've got to get Davis on.
If you all can just pause for just one quick second, please.
Okay.
We will take a five minute recess.
All right, we will come back to order 743
and I will ask Jean to state her motion one more time.
Okay.
I move to rescind the motion adopted March 18th, 2026
that only fund 80 be used for the operation
and maintenance of the aquatic center.
Okay, so the motion on the floors to rescind,
they vote from March 18.
So we need to, and Jean,
would you like to speak to your motion?
Yeah, so on March 18th,
the board was really put in an awkward position.
The information was sort of sprung on them that night
and I think that they felt really like they were in a corner.
And didn't have any choice in the matter.
So I think we do have a choice.
I think we have a long record of clean audits,
20 to whatever, 20 plus years of clean audits.
We've never gotten any kind of a notice or letter from DPI
telling us to stop spending fun $10 on the aquatic center.
I just don't see the evidence of having to make this sudden change
and what we've been doing for so long.
And so I wanted to bring the opportunity back to the board
that we've all had time to sort of these things
and ramifications sink in.
I think we have plenty of wiggle room.
I think we can work with DPI.
I think we can move forward and find a solution that works.
For this school on the community.
Okay, Davis, would you opine on this, please?
So fun 10 can be used for the operations of the pool.
So long as the operations are not part of the community program.
So you can, as was explained back in March, you can use fun 10
for things related to the education of your students,
such as renting out the facility from your fund 80.
You cannot use fun 10 to carry out a community program
or service, which would be a fund 80 expenditure.
If you do that, you will receive a dollar for dollar reduction
in your budget.
It is an ineligible expense.
So if you do this, you are setting yourself up
for serious financial consequences.
And also knowingly doing so.
The reason this wasn't brought to the board's attention earlier
is because my understanding is the board wasn't aware
that it was going up.
We have discussions in March regarding whether Danny,
as the board president, had been aware of who he had appointed,
if anybody to the quote unquote aquatic center board,
and I recall him telling me he did not know of anybody.
We generally didn't know that the aquatic center board operated.
And when I say we, I mean myself and the board members,
I know that administration was at some of the meetings,
but with, again, my understanding is administration was,
was new to the district was trying to understand all of the
ongoings and this issue of.
The fact that it didn't come up I believe until October 25.
When discussions started regard critical maintenance
and how funds could be utilized to pay for the critical maintenance.
That's when the discussions started to shift to how has this
been done in the past.
And can it continue?
And the answer was legally no, it cannot continue that way.
So I understand that there may be clean audits.
I have not seen those records.
I haven't seen what was submitted to DPI.
I haven't seen logs.
The motion back in March was.
To only use funds appropriately.
I don't understand why there would be an objection.
To that motion.
If fun 10 were to be used to.
Fund the community program or service.
That would be.
Highly ill advised.
So can we do something which we know is potentially illegal?
I mean, is that a possibility?
I don't, I don't understand.
What we're being asked to vote on.
Brandi, is that a question for me or Jean?
Either.
Or both.
I can talk.
So Davis, I mean, I hear what you're saying and I'm not surprised
you're saying it because this is very much what you said in March.
Your last line there made it sound like I wanted to spend fun 10 on community services.
And I don't.
The aquatic center is used for the community and for the school.
So I want to use that mix of fun 10 and fund 80.
Just as we've done in the past.
And as.
My understanding schools across the state do with their community.
Facilities.
I mean, I think that there is far more wiggle room.
Than what you are presenting.
I haven't found any wiggle room on DPI's website to say that there's any flexibility of using fun 10.
I know that you like to do research.
Did you find something that states otherwise.
I did not look on the website because.
I keep thinking if there was.
If there was a letter.
From DPI telling us.
To stop using fun 10.
For funding the aquatic center.
Then we would have evidence.
I don't see the evidence.
I hear Davis's opinion.
I value his opinion.
But I simply don't.
I don't see the evidence.
That we have to only use fun to 80 for the aquatic center.
So again, Jean, you can use fun 10 for eligible expenses such as renting.
The space.
For your students use.
Which has been happening.
You cannot use fun 10.
To pay for things like.
The YMCA.
Or.
For.
Staff.
You supervise.
The community swim times.
Those would be ineligible expenses.
All right, though.
So that nips that you're talking about is a curve.
But and as district administration.
Just went through with its auditor.
So another third party who has.
No interest in that.
Has determined that the expenses spent this year.
As properly coded.
Resulted in.
A deficit.
And so that properly coded Davis, who's determining that.
The auditor who.
The auditor with information provided to them by whom.
The district's records.
I would like to just chime in here.
So with that exchange right there.
So with the district records.
So if we are records were in able to produce accurate financials last year.
How can we say that our financials.
And our inputs on the accounting side are accurate.
I think a further question would be.
Has the record keeping accurately been maintained since the inception of the pool.
More specifically operational.
Items for pool use.
Looking at that longevity.
And I do not know.
So Danny, I'm going to give you an example.
In the past.
There was not staff coded to fund 80.
That were maintaining.
The pool.
Maintenance. They were providing maintenance.
To the pool and their salary was not coded to fund 80.
That is an example of it being coded to fund 10 when it needed to be coded to fund 80.
So when you see that there wasn't as much of a deficit in the past.
Since the inception of the pool.
It's because those types of expenses were not being coded to fund 80.
They're being coded to fund 10 so that there wouldn't be a deficit or less of a deficit.
So have we gone farther back than the last year to see how much in proper coding has taken place in house.
I wasn't in the district.
Since the inception of the pool.
Or in a financial role.
In which I would be able to know those answers.
So right now what we are doing is working with DPI.
We are working with our auditors and we are working with legal counsel to ensure that all the expenditures that the pool.
Encounters are coded correctly to fund 80.
So now I believe you did state that you have been in the district for a little over two years.
So and I believe back in one of March or April Davis did reference you as the liaison between the pool and the school.
So if we had by monthly meetings at the school board or the pool board and you were the liaison.
Wouldn't we have known something had been going on for the last two years.
How are we how can we say that are counting and everything what you just said you are not in the district.
But you have been in the district for the last two years.
And you were the liaison as outlined by Davis in the previous meetings.
My role with the aquatic center was to let them know where their budgets stood.
So the very first year in which I was here the budget was already created.
The processes were already happening with how things were being coded.
I think so Kelly not to interrupt but what really opened our eyes to this was when we asked DPI if we could use 46 for them.
For the maintenance correct for a capital improvement. That's when that's when this all came to light.
Yes. And the pool the aquatic center board has been reported since I've come to the district that they've been operating in a deficit.
And so those things have been reported to the board. It's just now that we are identifying all of the expenditures that haven't been coded.
The deficit is much larger and the funds have been used as a much quicker rate.
So have we been operating fund 80 in a deficit.
For years and it's just now being brought to our attention.
Is that what I'm getting from that statement? I thought we couldn't let fund 80 go to negative.
But if it's been operating at a deficit for years, how has that not been caught?
So fund 80 operated deficit in his first year back in 2004.
Fire call correctly.
And then the levy was instituted.
And then that levy continued to increase to cover the deficit.
I think it steadily increased for like five to six years.
And then.
I'm not sure.
There certainly at times were.
Somebody set aside within fund 80 because at least at the beginning of this year.
There was a fund balance of a hundred and fifty thousand. Is that correct, Kelly?
Yes.
So we knew going to, I guess.
Deductive reasoning says if you had a hundred and fifty thousand dollar fund balance,
you weren't at a deficit at the beginning year, but now you are.
Sure. So on the report that I am looking at, so did we, you said a hundred and fifty, but the fund balance.
Starting was a hundred and twenty three thousand seven hundred and sixty four dollars and twenty eight cents.
There's some inaccuracies on that.
Yeah, I do have, I mean, there are some questions I have about that because the last year doesn't.
When you take the starting fund balance for the twenty four twenty five and then you add the total.
Revenues and other financial sources that does come out when you subtract the expenses.
What that year was, but then last year going into this year, there are discrepancies back and forth on that.
So I don't, I sitting here looking at this, I don't understand how with discrepancies like that.
We can't have some sort of temporary resolution where we meet with the foundation on a monthly basis.
We provide budgets to them. They provide budgets to us. We meet in the middle and we can ask for funds along the way.
Is that an option?
Because I think, I think if we're going to ask the foundation for large sums of money, we have to be able to provide.
Good accurate budgets or be willing to have conversations on the inaccuracies of our budget.
So I'm just going to stop there. There aren't inaccuracies on the budget, but when you have a budget right now your fiscal year doesn't end until.
June 30th, that means all of your utilities that are operating your pool for this is just one example goes through June 30th.
You aren't going to get that bill until July. That means this budget is always living and breathing until.
July or August when you're getting all of your final bills, all of your final expenditures, all of your final revenues, and those are.
Done and you close out the books.
So right now, as the budget stands as it is, that's why there are different numbers each time you ask, and that is very typical of a budget throughout the year is always living and breathing until the books get closed out and they get finalized through your audit.
So right now you're operating at a deficit, and even if you get all of your revenues, you will still be operating at a deficit.
And the pool since I've been here has been operating at a deficit.
Now you did have a fund balance that for lack of a better example is much like a savings account,
but your operational expenses with how much revenue and how much expenditures you have each year is operating at a deficit.
Now, that is why it still was able to stay open according to DPI because you did have a fund balance that fund balance is now depleted because all of the accurate expenditures are being allocated to the correct funds.
So, Kelly, this is Jean. I just have a question about clarification because you're using the word budget in a way that is unfamiliar to me.
To me, a budget is something that gets set at the beginning of the year and it's in stone and it does not change month to month to month, day to day, whatever your expenditures may.
But to me, that's what a budget is, and now you're using the word budget as if it's a moving, flowing thing.
A budget is set by the board and can only be amended by the board.
Am I misunderstanding the word budget?
I don't think you are, Jean. That's how I also interpret it.
Okay, so I can't predict what 12 months of electric bills are going to be for the pool.
So what you do when you set a budget number is you look at the history of what your electric bills have been and you apply an increase because generally your electric bills increase.
And so your budget number is your best estimate of what you believe that based on all of the facts that you have, what your electric bills are going to be much like your home.
You don't know exactly what your electric bills are going to be or your heat could be a colder winter could be a warmer winter you're setting your cell your budget up based on what the facts are that you have at the time.
So when you set your budget numbers that's what those are as your expenditures and your invoices and your bills come in much like there might be a tile that breaks randomly because of somebody dropped something or something like that.
That has to be fixed. You're not going to be able to predict that that's going to happen when you set your budget in October that you might have a tile break in March.
So those are the types of examples that happen when you set a budget and then you have your actual invoices come in and your actual revenues come in.
You can't predict if 12 or 15 people are going to buy an annual membership or they're going to buy a monthly or maybe they're not going to buy any at all.
So those aren't things that you can predict.
You have to set your budget on what all the facts that you absolutely have and then it's your best estimate going from there.
Yep, I agree with all of that.
I'm just concerned now that this that the columns in the budget sheet which is a different agenda item that this pay budget at the top.
Now I don't know if they really mean budget or if they mean you know expenditures or adjusted or something else.
So that's a great question gene. If you look at the handout that I gave you all last meeting, you'll see at the top fiscal year to date activity.
So look at the 2526 fiscal year to date activity.
That isn't the budget of what we set where we thought the best estimate was.
That's what your actual numbers are to that date, which that date was on June 15.
If I was to have a column with the word budget on it, then you would see what we believe the best numbers were going to be as compared to the fiscal year to date activity.
But we just put the actual bill so that you would have an actual sense of what the budget or what the actual numbers are in the budget as of that date.
While I believe all this information is pertinent to us to make a decision, I don't believe it's directly related to the motion on the floor.
And if we're going to look at that, I think yes, it's important to note we did have clean audits all along.
But I don't know now that we have been in contact with DPI and we're waving our flags and saying, hey, we're doing this wrong.
Audits might come out a little bit differently.
When you say to the police officer, hey, I was speeding back there, they might look at your car a little bit differently next time.
And as far as I'm aware, the laws have not changed.
We can still, the initial motion did not say we couldn't use Fund 10 at all.
It just needed to be used legally.
So I'm not sure while all this information is relevant to us making an end decision, I don't know that it's pertinent to the motion on the floor.
The motion that was adopted March 18th said that only Fund 80 would be used for the operation and maintenance of the Aquatic Center.
The motion on March 18th says to approve funding at the direction of legal counsel, only Fund 80 would be used for operation and maintenance of the Aquatic Center.
And all other funds be utilized in a matter consistent with the law.
Direct administration to work with legal counsel to develop a plan of action for the continued operation and maintenance of the Aquatic Center.
That's the motion that was there.
So I agree with what Kristen has brought out that it does direct us to use Fund 80 for the Aquatic Center, but it does not limit Fund 10 to be used as long as Fund 10 is being used in consistent with the law.
So for my standpoint, I will vote no on this recension because the motion in March 18th gives the administration and the board the latitude to spend Fund 10 money as consistent with the law.
Any other discussion of the motion on the floor, which is to rescind the motion from May the 18th.
March March.
I'm sorry. Thank you. March the 18th.
All right. Hearing no other discussion.
Nate, are we ready for a vote?
Okay.
Can you just clarify what a yes vote means and no vote.
A yes vote means that you want to rescind the motion from March the 18th.
A no vote means that you do not want to rescind the motion from March the 18th.
Is everybody ready?
The voting device is now open.
Okay, would anyone like to change their vote?
The vote is now closed.
We have three yes and five no's that motion fails.
I'm sorry.
We'll go back to our agenda.
Okay, discussion and possible action on current pool finances and continue to operations.
I will be looking for a motion.
I'll make the motion that we move to adopt the resolution on continued operations of the Clara R. McKenna Aquatic Center as presented.
And to speak to that motion is all of you have received the handout from Davis that was prepared.
It gives the opportunity for the aquatic center to remain open.
And what I'd like to do is ask our board clerk to read the resolution on the continued operations of the Clara R McKenna Aquatic Center.
Mike, do you have that in front of you?
We have 34 pages here, so I'm looking for.
Things on page 32, but it might be it may have the May or the June 15 date.
And I have one here for the 22nd date.
Here's the one with the correct date.
Our board clerk is preparing to read the resolution.
I do want the record to reflect that it's 754.
Deanna, let the record reflect that Angie joined us in person.
I took record of it.
Thank you.
Danny, I just would like to let you know.
Randy, do you have that attachment?
Yes.
Okay.
Resolution continued operation of Clara McKenna Aquatic Center.
Somebody's going to read it and I'm going to follow it.
Melissa does not have that.
Resolution on continued operations of the Clara R McKenna Aquatic Center.
Mike, can you hold just one second, please?
Thank you, Mike.
Whereas the district operates the Clara R McKenna Aquatic Center, the pool as a community program under fund 80.
Whereas the pool has at least for the 2526 school year operated at a deficit.
And whereas the pool board desires to advise the administration and community of its decision with respect to the continued operations of the pool.
Now therefore be it resolved by the school board of the district as follows.
For the pool to remain open under the school board approved community program fund 80.
The following directives are issued to administration and the following must occur.
Administration is directed to execute the info.
Mike, can you pause just for a minute?
It's really important to read the number one in the letter A, so we keep those together.
Thank you.
One a administration is directed to execute the enclosed contract with the what's in YMCA outsourcing the pools general operations to the Woodstone YMCA.
And one B the district must receive revenue by way of donations or other revenue streams in the amount of $75,000.
By June 30th, 2026.
So fund 80 does not operate at a deficit for the 2526 school year.
And one C the district must receive revenue by the way of donations or other revenue streams in the amount of $250,000.
By July 1st, 2026.
So fund 80 may continue to operate in a cash flow positive manner in the 2627 school year.
And one D the district shall further consider imposing a previously imposed $300,000 tax levy.
Number two, if items one B through one C do not occur on or before the dates indicated.
The pool shall cease further operations until further notice.
An administration shall notify the Woodstone YMCA that the pools operational fund is depleted and the contract terminated.
Three, the district will receive and consider any and all offers to purchase the pool by a nonprofit and for profit entities alike.
Adopted and approved this 22nd day of June 2026.
Thank you Mike for reading all of that.
So the motion on the floor is to approve that document of the resolution on continued operations of the Clara R.
McKenna Aquatic Center.
We'll direct all of our discussion toward that motion.
I move to amend the motion.
Okay.
Will the member please state the amendment.
Removing number three.
The district will receive and consider any and all offers to purchase the pool by nonprofit and for profit entities alike.
Okay. We have an amendment on the floor in the resolution to strike number three.
The district will receive and consider any and all offers to purchase the pool by nonprofit and for profit entities alike.
Jean, would you like to speak to your amendment?
No. Thank you.
Okay. We need to direct all of our attention to the amendment that's on the floor.
And that is just to strike line number three in the resolution.
Are there any questions or discussion of the amendment?
Randy?
No.
Kristen.
First of all, it just says that we would receive and consider offers not accept any offer.
All along when we've discussed the pool, we've talked about how great it is for our community and for increasing economic development, increasing employee pools.
And to me, this is really a community issue more than it is a school issue.
So I would like to give the opportunity to the county or the city to step in.
And if they were to purchase the pool, I think that's something that we need to seriously consider.
As it is more, like I said, a community issue versus a school issue.
And I would like to know if they are willing to put some skin in the game and maybe help out with this situation.
So I think that that's something that we should keep on the floor.
And for that reason, I don't think we should take the amendment.
I'd like to further speak.
I disagree with that comment.
The county and city have not supported the board.
I think it's highly unlikely either of them are going to step forward and purchase this building.
I think that's almost an impossibility.
Any other questions or discussion of the amendment that's on the floor?
I also do not support the amendment simply because it imposes limitations on us.
I know it's been brought up several times with the YMCA purchase the pool.
I do believe the YMCA shared in a task force meeting a while back that pools are subsidized.
So they have no interest because we simply have a pool.
We don't have other activities or programming that goes along with it.
But the YMCA has maintained a great working relationship and continues to operate our pool.
Perhaps that's something that they may want to consider and they have first-hand knowledge and experience of operating our pool.
So that would take that potential out.
I also agree with Kristen in the sense that the city and the county have been on the task force.
This discussion has never centered on the importance of academic achievement in student outcomes.
It has focused on the importance of the community in this board.
Regardless of current members or previous members have all stated the importance of the pool for our community.
Therefore to continue that discussion and even the discussion further but in terms of skin in the game
to offer and maintain a sort of amenity to our community that amenity ideally has a collaborative combined effort from taxpayers.
So at the end of the day it's taxpayer monies.
Let's all have skin in the game to promote and maintain a community gem that we have in place.
So I'm not in favor of the amendment because I don't want to set up limitations for ourselves.
Also the foundation has shared a lot and they have a lot of knowledge.
Quite honestly I think the foundation or members of would be excellent at running the Aquatic Center.
That would also remove that potential should there be interest there.
Okay.
Any other questions Angie?
I just want to say that the private entity or nonprofit were to purchase this.
They would be able to operate it like a true business and not have to deal with all the red tape being tied to the school district.
So I would quote that we against this because I don't want to keep our as many possibilities open as we can to keep this open.
So I think right now I don't see people lining up.
But in the case that somebody does come forward or a group does come forward.
I think it would be nice just to have it in there just for that reason.
I'll hold you Danny because I saw Melissa go into her mic.
I just have a clarifying question.
If number three is removed and we don't entertain offers at the moment,
that's something that we can take action on in the future, correct?
Potentially yes.
Okay.
Thank you.
Danny?
I don't think we need number three there.
I think that there are really reputable people in this community who have come forward and put forth that there are funds there that they are willing to provide the district as long as we are open and willing to collaborate with them in a sense of having conversations about the
budget and what we need.
So I don't think there's a need for number three if we just start coming together and work with this foundation and people in the community.
What if the foundation wants to purchase it though?
Like, I mean, they've laid out expectations.
I think they would have let us know.
But in what business plan does it make sense that you are going to put forth all of the money?
We are going to pay for this business and we also want to know all the decisions and be part of all the decision making, but also we don't want to own it.
Does that not raise a red flag to anyone else?
We're going to give you all the money.
We want to know all your decisions and be part of all your decisions, but we don't want to own it.
To me, that would mean that there's something wrong with the business.
I mean, the foundation is willing to fund it now and Mr. Cost has been more than helpful.
But what if that changes tomorrow?
What if that changes in a year?
Now we're back in the same place that we are right now.
Or what if those donors who are giving money to the foundation, stop giving to the money to the foundation and now the foundation doesn't have the money to give to us.
Then we're in the same spot that we're in now.
Things can change very quickly.
And I just think we need to have the option out there for someone to run it as their business.
Because when it's your business, you aren't going to let it fail.
I do agree with you, Kristen, and for some of what you're saying, but I also think with us being a public school and that being part of our community and our public school, I think we have an obligation to not let this fail as well.
I agree completely.
None of us want the pool to close.
I agree completely.
That's why we're here trying to come up with a solution.
But if the best solution is for someone else to run it and run it well, we have to have that solution on the table as well, or option on the table.
Are there any other questions or discussion of the amendment that's on the floor of removing item number three from the resolution?
I'm not going to vote in favor of it.
I just want to stay really, really clear and consistent because I just don't feel it's believed in any capacity.
I, as just one board member, I'll just speak for myself right now.
I have no interest in closing down our pool.
None.
At all.
I have no interest in acting unlawfully.
I will not.
I have every belief that we can figure out a solution, and I also feel that leaving this in there allows for flexibility because the language simply says we'll receive and consider.
It does not say we'll accept.
So it provides the opportunity we are on a time crunch right now with timelines within this resolution.
Last week, Monday, this was on the agenda, but we couldn't get to it.
So in the event that there is a time constraint, I just don't want to limit ourselves to potentials.
It's not an acceptance of an offer.
It's simply allowing that to be available.
For those reasons and previously shared feedback and that in favor, I want the pool to stay open, nonetheless.
Danny?
I would just like to add that given the short notice that previous board members had regarding the dire financial strengths of this pool and they were quick to act and able to put something like this together.
I don't see why we would not be able to act like that again if we needed this option, but I think if we put this option in, I think it's just basically giving us to get out of jail free card and not have to work together and have hard conversations with the foundation and community.
Any other questions or discussion of the amendment on the floor?
Can you just clarify for all board members' sake?
Yes. For a yes vote, you will be voting in favor of removing item number three from the resolution, which states the district will receive and consider any and all offers to purchase the pool by nonprofit and for-profit entities alike.
Yes vote will remove that from the resolution and no vote will retain that in the resolution.
Does everybody understand what yes and no mean?
Thank you for that clarification.
Thank you.
All right. The voting device is now open.
Would anyone like to change their vote?
All right. The vote is not closed.
We have five yes and four no.
The amendment stands.
I have another amendment please.
Wait just one second.
We are now at the main motion on the floor, which is to accept the resolution as read with striking number three under now therefore be it resolved and now entertain your amendment, Randy.
I move we eliminate item number one C.
District must receive revenue by way of donations or other revenue streams to the amount of $250,000 by July one.
So fund 80 may continue to operate.
It's cash flow positive manner in 2026 to 2027.
I think trying to ask the foundation to come up with this large amount of cash in such a short period of time does not at all realistic.
I'm not sure that this board has shown good faith and that they really want to do these things.
There's been an offer on the table for $120,000 to repairs which has not been taken advantage of.
So I think we should just eliminate item number three.
I don't think that's necessary to keep our pool open at this time.
Okay.
I'm just going to I was going to refer our defer to you Davis because there's a reason for that being in there and Davis, you can open on that.
And I'm not here to tell people how to vote, but.
So the reason you need that by July one is because if you don't have that money by July one.
Then you won't have any operating funds.
You won't have it. You won't have any fund balance left.
So you need the 75,000 to get back to zero.
So now you've avoided the deficit for 2526.
You haven't addressed how you're going to keep operating in 2627 because you're not going to receive levy money.
If at all.
Until December, January.
And you are going to have Mars.
Revenue streams.
And as we've learned from 2526, the revenue isn't enough.
To overcome the expenses.
So you need some other supplemental revenue.
So that's why that, that one sees in there.
Okay, I saw and I guess I'm just going to.
You know, this, this concept of bad faith has been addressed with me before.
The district has engaged in this conversation with the foundation since March.
And in March, it was represented that there were several hundred thousands.
I was at seven, several hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Available to help.
The district in its continued operations.
As you said that, I looked at Mr. Cost because he's the one that made that presentation and he has shaken his head in the affirmative that there are several thousands of dollars to help in this endeavor.
So I understand there is a time crunch and that is much unfortunate.
But it's not.
This isn't a surprise.
This conversation has been ongoing for months.
Then in that case you would have a week to negotiate to get some money placed in.
Maybe not two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.
Okay, so I saw the board members pop up to the microphone was the first one was Jill.
She came up.
Just because our attorney is, is sharing.
I just wanted to ask it was my understanding that there was an attorney representing.
I don't want to say there was an attorney representing the interest of the foundation.
Is that accurate?
And if so, should that attorney be involved in this discussion?
That attorney is no longer working with the foundation.
They were that not because of anything that occurred. It was just a mutual parting of ways.
Thank you.
The next one I saw was.
And I.
Go ahead.
Sorry.
I would just add the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars is a conservative amount.
Because keep in mind your deficit is understood to be.
At least two hundred thousand dollars.
And the budget prepared by administration.
Estimates that the deficit for twenty six twenty seven will be over three hundred thousand dollars.
If I recall correctly, I believe it's three hundred and seventy five thousand dollars roughly.
So.
The two hundred and fifty is to provide.
A life raft until.
Possibly October.
And give the board some more time to make a more.
Informed decision about how it's going to.
Continue to fund the operations of pool, whether that be through an increased tax levy.
Through further discussions with the foundation.
Through.
Maybe.
Different programming that's going to increase revenue streams.
The idea is that.
There be sufficient funds to carry.
The district for some period of time.
But not the full school year.
So I understand what you're saying, Randy, where you're, but what I'm trying to make clear is.
The two hundred and fifty thousand dollar number is.
Just a.
It's just to provide you a little more runway.
I'd like to read from a letter that was sent to all board members.
On May 22nd, twenty twenty six.
By Mr. Cost.
And the third paragraph of this letter, it states.
Three of the task force members are the directors of the foundation of the United School District of Anago.
They are attorney Paul Payance, the American CPA and Tom Cost CFP.
The foundation had retained attorney Ryan Haydn to be sure it wasn't missing any legal or statutory requirements that apply in a case like this.
Attorney Haydn concluded that the Anago United School District staff and board didn't appear to be acting in good faith.
But they hadn't violated any statutes or regulations.
Thus attorney Haydn's work with a foundation is done and he is no longer on retainer.
Angie, you were up to speak next.
Thanks.
Davis, would I be correct in assuming that a yes vote for this amendment to take away the two hundred and fifty thousand funding requirement?
Wouldn't essence close the pool as of July 1st?
Is that correct?
Unless magically some very large amount of revenue comes in, then yes.
It would be setting.
I understand everyone's concerned and I understand that the pool.
Everyone wants the pool to stay open.
But if there is no revenue for twenty six twenty seven per law, it has to be closed.
At least as you do as you operate it now.
You can convert it to a fun 10 operation where it's only fun 10.
And it's only for educational purposes.
But as we've discovered, if you do that, your educational fund will operate at deficit and you will need to terminate staff.
Thank you.
This discussion has come up in the past and just so before anybody has the idea that we should just move it to fun 10.
We would be looking at eliminating 11 teachers.
Basically all of our C.T. department gone.
Our art department gone.
Music gone.
So I just want everybody to know the weight of if you decide that you want to think that's a good idea.
You can say we've acted in bad faith all you want, but we have tried and tried to look at this from every single angle that we could possibly come up with.
Not only from us, but from the community, from the legal side, all that stuff.
This is a volunteer position and we're trying to make the best decision for our students and for our community.
And for you to sit up here not knowing even a quarter of the details that all of us have gone through and dug up and looked at and say that we are operating in bad faith is ridiculous.
And very unprofessional.
So, and you can sit here and snicker all you want. You don't even know how to operate your laptop over here.
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Danny, I think you were, Angie, you finished?
I am finished.
Dan, you were next that I saw coming to the mic.
I do want to just outline that we are all adults. We are all professionals.
Are we?
Angie, I'm speaking at the moment.
So, we are all professionals. We are all here to have open, hard conversations.
We need to have these hard conversations and it's nothing personal.
I'm not taking anything away from any of the previous board members that sat up here like you just said and did the dirt.
You guys dug into it, you did your research. I'm not taking that away from any of you.
Thank you for that. You are doing that, yes.
I am not taking that away from anybody, but we have to have these hard conversations.
I agree.
I understand that there is some emotion coming from you with that and I get that.
This is a sensitive topic, but I do just want to remind us that we are having a very hard adult conversations right now.
So, what I would like to just comment on is that previously, so if we're saying we need the 250,000,
if this term of budget is used for here, then that means that this budget should fluctuate.
So, we can't say that our expenses are going to require $250,000 up front.
I would like to ask, what is the bare minimum that this pool needs every single month to stay open?
Can we meet with the foundation on a monthly basis mid-month and say,
this is how much we need to keep the doors open this month? This is how much we need next month?
Instead of asking them to put up this much money for that,
in addition, what is the minimum balance that we need to keep in fund 80 in order to keep it open for July 1st?
Is it $1? Is it $10,000? Is it $50,000? What is the minimum requirement for that?
So, Danny, well, those are great questions that need to be asked and great questions that we need to discuss.
Now would not be the time to discuss those questions because we are trying to amend this motion to remove line C.
And from what I understand of $250,000, this is actually just to carry over until we start receiving the tax money that comes in from December,
and comes in December and January of the tax levy of the potentially $300,000 or whatever this board sets in October.
Then when that money comes in, this will be able to act as a cushion to help supplement for the remainder of the year.
You have great points, great questions there to ask, and I think we could go down that road gingerly,
but remember we are talking about just removing this. We're not talking about what this covers.
And Danny, if we circle back to that question, I have a comment that, but I don't want to get you off track.
So, how many times can we amend the motion?
So, if I were to amend the motion, that's then we're done.
We're at two.
Well, we're at two because we had one amendment from Jean, and now we're at two with Randy with this motion.
Can I revise my amendment?
State your revision will see what we can do.
Can we change the $250,000 to $100,000?
That would have to be a question that we would have to ask, is that enough to carry us until we get tax revenue coming in in December?
I don't know.
I don't think it will be enough to carry you to December, but it will be enough time to get further negotiations with the foundation is my point, I guess.
I see that.
So, if you want to revise that amendment to $100,000, that you want to leave letter C in there?
That would be correct.
And revise it to in the amount of $100,000 by July 1?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
So, the revision from Randy is to change the $250,000 to $100,000 by July 1, because all the members understand that's what we're speaking to now.
Angie, I saw your hand.
So, it's my understanding that the foundation, as Tom Cost was nodding in the audience here, that the $250 was fine, that they did have that.
No, I don't think he was saying that.
Okay.
I misunderstood that.
Okay.
I apologize.
I apologize, Tom.
So, okay.
Because like in the past, they have talked that coming up with this money was not an issue and that they could fund it.
I mean, there was meetings where he was throwing out a lot more dollars.
I realize that obviously you don't just write checks like that overnight, but a couple of phone calls.
I understand.
So, I guess that was my point.
Okay.
I apologize for misunderstanding it.
I take hand signals very well, Tom, whenever I see those.
Yeah.
Any other discussion of the consideration of the amendment on the floor to leave item C, but change the amount to $100,000 by July one.
That is now what we're going to be voting upon.
All right.
To be clear, by July one, but then if there are no further donations and fund 80 hits zero, this voting to approve the revision of the second amendment would effectively close down the pool because we would lose an additional $150,000 buffer.
Correct.
I have a question.
So if we lose that money in the fund goes negative, but aren't we already negative?
So I guess I just need clarification as to if we ended the year already negative, but we have money going into the positive going into the new year.
If those funds dip below negative, aren't we just operating how we have been for the last however many years illegally?
But like, but we could meet with the foundation and they could bring more money forward, right? Like the pool wouldn't have to close.
Correct.
Effectively choosing their fiduciary duties would mean that we are effectively saying we would choose to illegally fund and operate the pool.
Am I hearing that correctly?
No.
I'm not saying that I'm, I needed clarification on as to if will the pool, like, why does the pool close?
If that fund goes negative, then versus now, like, why isn't it gone closed now?
And if it does go negative or get close, can't we meet with the foundation on a monthly basis to get more funds?
Thank you for clarifying.
Yeah.
The answer to that question.
There could be an interpretation of Wisconsin 121 that requires it to be closed right now.
If $75,000 can get into the account and the account can read zero for the year.
An argument can be made that it didn't operate at a deficit.
But if you knowingly are going into a year with zero money,
then yes, you, you are operating in depth. You know, you are going to be operating at deficit.
The other thing I'd know, which I wanted to address earlier.
This is not fair to the YMCA to do a month to month.
Will we have money? Will we have not? They have employees that they have dedicated to the operations.
It is not fair to those individuals to have them guessing every 30 days.
If they're going to have a continued appointment.
And this is just not how businesses operate.
Okay, is there any other questions Melissa?
Yep, I have a clarifying question.
So if we change this from $250,000 to $100,000.
So then we're at $175,000 with the June and July money.
Aren't we just, I mean, isn't it a way of looking at it.
We're just giving the foundation more time to come up with it on the other $150,000.
We're not saying we don't need it, but by lowering this amount,
aren't we buying them some time so we can get more money in here.
I would answer that as yes.
Okay, thank you.
But keep in mind that $75,000 is actually covering the deficit.
The $100,000 will be for next year.
It's lean on until.
We're still asking them to come up with $175,000 in a week, basically.
So if we drop that to $175,000, I think that would buy them another some more time to get that $150,000 is my thought.
Angie?
The $150 is going to take us to our toll.
Correct. November.
I don't know because I'm not, I don't know the day to day operation of what the cost is.
Right.
Yeah.
We think.
Go ahead, David.
And generally that the pool operates at a.
We think the pool generally operates at about $750,000.
Of a.
Of expenses.
Right.
Kelly.
Am I accurate on that?
Yeah.
And so.
And then we estimate that you're running at basically a half.
Deficit. So you're 307 being the red.
So now.
I mean, the $150,000.
You're going to burn through that in a matter of.
Three months.
I'm sorry, a hundred thousand. You're going to.
Yeah, you're easily going to burn through that three months.
But I think before we got to that three month period, there would be conversations with.
You can.
That we would let put them on notice as to where we are with all of the oversight of the budget throughout that time.
You know, we would not wait until we're down to.
$500 in the account before we say, Oh, Mr. cost, by the way, you know, that would not be, that would not be acting in good faith from us as a district or board to the foundation.
Does that make sense?
Okay. Any other question, Angie, you kind of have a question to look.
In regards to going back and doing your monthly budgeting, you know, going back and forth with the foundation.
It's my understanding. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's my understanding that.
The school district is not to be doing that. We need that's why we needed the pool.
Fund 80% fund 80% thank you to be that liaison between the school district because like.
Even the finance director's role should not be heavily involved in this.
So to.
To do that monthly is kind of not feasible.
So Davis, I have a question.
The extent of the operation and maintenance, according to the outsourcing agreement.
Is Woodson YMCA. No.
Brian shaking his head. No.
No.
The outsourcing agreement is going to continue.
By and large, the relationship that the district has with the Y right now.
The day to day maintenance that.
At one point was.
At the center of this discussion still needs to be addressed, which is.
There is in the budget, a hundred thousand dollar line item.
For a fund 80 specific employee to be hired.
That could be.
A solution to the maintenance. There are other solutions that.
Potential solutions that I've discussed with administration.
With current staffing.
To take a part time employee.
And dedicate some of their time to the pool to do day to day operations.
The over arching.
I guess.
Oversight of the operations and.
Decisions about what to do with funds.
That could be delegated to a subcommittee as previously described.
So there are ways that we can work.
And get creative with.
Filling those staffing needs.
But at the end of the day, which is what the resolution is to address is you need.
Money to continue out of their minimum.
I also had concerns about the personnel issue and it's a talking point I would like to discuss.
I was actually waiting.
After this vote to see what the.
Final motion is on the floor.
But I am going to defer to you Danny.
Is this the time to talk about the personnel component of this.
It would not be the time to talk about that at this time.
We can get the final motion and then that would be the time to bring up.
All of this those issues.
Can I just I just got to ask you a question.
So when Davis was.
Talking about the maintenance and stuff like that.
Is there no way for us to break down how much of the maintenance is needed to keep.
That facility functioning in the interest of the educational sources.
Not the community side. So could we break down.
Maintenance expense for wages.
And bill it from fun 10.
If the maintenance that's being used.
Is in the interest of the educational side of that pool.
Now if that's 20% that would be 20% of that person's labor get built to fund 10.
Can they break that.
So that's how you.
Sorry Danny. That's how you come up with the rent.
Amount.
Okay, so the district to your fun 10 your fun 10 rents the pool time.
For education.
Time like swim lessons for PE.
Adaptive PT.
And that money from fun 10 goes to pay rent to fund 80 for that specific period of time.
And that calculation you're doing is how you arrive at a proper rent payment.
Does that make sense?
Yep, that makes sense.
So, but then in that, but then you still need to.
So that's just money going from one account to the other.
But fund 80 still needs to be.
You need to have a dedicated employee because you can't just send.
Well, you can say.
To your maintenance guy.
Okay, we're splitting your.
Your job description.
You're going to do 80% of fun 10.
Activities going around our educational buildings.
And then 20% at the aquatic center and your 20% will be paid out of funding.
But you have, so then you have a full time equivalent employee,
but you have two part time positions making that full time equivalent.
Understand.
So, so my question then though, when, when schools not in session, isn't there maintenance that we could be doing.
With staff to keep it functioning as our educational source, because it still is used for.
Educational reasons schools, the kids are just not in session at the moment.
Right, no, you can't do that.
Okay, the amendment on the floor is to leave items C.
And change in the amount from $250,000 by July 1 to $100,000 by July 1.
So, if this passes and the funding does run out, I'm hoping it doesn't.
I'm hoping that the foundation can come through, but the, but if the money does run out in three months.
So, in September, does that mean that we come back and we have the same discussion?
Or like, or do we just close it down?
I think this is going to be an ongoing discussion.
The pool has been in existence for 22 years.
We can't just make these big decisions in a short periods of time.
It's going to be an ongoing thing until we can get this sustainable.
I think as Mike was talking, I was thinking about the response and that would be what Danny has been saying that we meet with the committee, which is the finance committee is his committee.
That would be discussed at his committee level on a monthly basis as to where the funds are.
And then at that time, we would also be in conversation with Mr. Cost and the foundation.
And we would keep them in the loop as to where the funds are at on a monthly basis.
Correct.
We're not going to wait until that three months.
Okay.
And then by not waiting for that three month period, Mr. Cost and the foundation is aware of what's going on of what's needed by the school because.
Please correct me, Mr. Cost, if I'm wrong, but I think in the very beginning, you said we want to do what we can do to help the school to keep this this pool open.
Maybe not those exact words.
They were probably better eloquently given by you than what I just said.
But that was the gist of what I heard you say is that the foundation is here to help to supplement the school.
Okay.
Does that answer your question, Angie?
Yes and no.
So it, again, I'm hopeful, very hopeful that the foundation will come through.
If a chance something happens and they do not, then does it automatically close down or do we have to come back for more for this again?
It's fluid.
Okay.
I mean, I cannot give you a definite black or white answer.
Okay.
And I don't know that anybody in here can really give any of the board member want to say something there.
I don't think we can.
I think looking at it on that month to month basis is what's, is where we're at.
And then I think by looking at this month to month basis, we're going to see a trend that's going to, that's going to pop up emerge out of what we're doing here, which is something we should have done 20 years ago.
And we're just doing it now rather than 20 years earlier.
So we're, we're doing this now so we can get ahead before that tax levy money comes in December and January.
This is going to be the responsibility of the finance committee of the school board, not our business administrator.
Correct?
Correct.
Yeah.
To work with the foundation directly.
We can.
Yes, absolutely.
Our administrators are not doing is my point.
Correct.
They will have to have some type of skin in the game as well.
I mean, we're talking about everybody having skin in the game.
Everybody's going to have to have that in this to make it work.
But their time will not be put into it.
It'll be the committee.
Well, I can't say their time won't be because they'll, they'll have to put some of their time in there.
Okay.
I don't know what percentage of that time would be.
Okay.
Any other.
That is a problem, Danny.
I mean, that is.
That is an operational problem because you don't have a fund 80 paid employee.
That's how this has snowballed into such a problem.
So Davis, what in the event, what happens in the event that we do hire a fund 80 employee.
Three months from now, five months from now.
What then?
That's that would be if the pool is still open.
Great.
But I would advocate that that I would advise that a fund 80 employee be hired as soon as possible.
Which is why it's in the proposed budget.
I would also note that at the last task force meeting, the board gave a directive to come up with a person because it was a personnel issue.
And to my knowledge, I'm going to, I'm going to probably break the rules by asking if there's anybody who has brought forth a person that we're not aware of.
Or if there's any board members that are aware of a person because of the personnel fund 80 issue.
Is there anybody in this room that is aware of that directive being successfully fulfilled?
That was supposed to be the honest question.
By the fund.
But no, I'm just making sure that there's nobody that was like, that was a directive given, correct?
That there's a personnel issue that Mr. Koss has very clearly laid out his magic and it's exceptionally appreciated.
It really came down to the money, the money is a problem, right?
But you have somebody that's well versed and knowledgeable to be able to address the financial component with time.
I understand that.
What was still the secondary, yet primary barrier is a personnel issue.
So we still have not resolved a fund 80 personnel.
So I'm just making sure that that is still something that we're pretending is not a direct imminent need.
We don't have somebody identified, correct?
To my knowledge, nobody is identified.
When you say no one's been identified, what do you mean?
Like a position, like a type of position?
Nobody has come forward to apply for the position.
In any of those people's defense, no position has been posted because there's no money to fund that position.
Right, so it goes hand in hand.
Correct.
Yes.
That's the thing.
There is no money currently.
There's also no position.
So one without, I mean, that's how we keep ping ponging and the discussions, right?
Including these on the amendments even tonight.
So I guess my question is you, this is a personal question that I was trying to hold off and part of it at least.
But how do we effectively go month to month through committee meetings without having a liaison funded through fund 80?
So if we reduce to 100,000, that's my question.
I very much agree and love the band aid to go month to month by reducing to bank it more feasible to acquire donations.
Yet at the end of the day, can we do that without having a fund 80 liaison to help facilitate, communicate, pay bills, identify needs?
Can we do that?
And that's a question for the finance committee for you, Danny, for Davis.
Like, is this a feasible band aid?
I would say other districts do this and I would think that there's some way that our finance director can be that liaison.
If it requires something with her job description to be changed.
There's districts all over the state that do this.
Their finance office, finance director pays all the bills through their districts.
I've talked to some of these people.
So there is a way we have to figure out the way to move forward.
So it's a separate contract.
I've also done the research and had the conversations.
Those contracts aren't written up, so we don't have that in place.
Can we logically reasonably have that in place by July to get it to committee?
I've had the discussion and presented a solution to some members of the foundation and our district as well of that fund 80 position.
Tying to our strategic plan that should drive our decision making for a community engagement slash aquatic center director.
That's not necessarily a full time position for aquatics, but that bridges that gap.
Going back to the city and the county, it would be wonderful if maybe that could be a split position between the city.
County or district, because again, it's a community, community gym that we're talking about.
So looking at creative solutions and skin in the game.
Can parks and recs oversee that portion of it funded through funded?
I mean, there's endless creative solutions right now, though, that there's not a solution on the table that is addressing that.
So can we like, yes, we can get it, but now reasonably not having contract language, even drafted right now to my knowledge.
We're not going to get that to committees by July.
Now, that means we're going to get it to committee in August.
We reduced the amount from 250 to 100. Like, I just don't like the cushion right now. It doesn't make me feel comfortable because we still have too many moving parts that aren't being addressed yet.
Davis, correct me if I'm wrong, the position and the, like the interviewing, the job description, all that.
Is not supposed to come through the school district because then that means that we're.
Handling fund 80 improperly. Is that correct?
No, you can have the district can.
Put out a position and pay for that position, but they have to do it out of funding. The payment has to come out of funding.
Right. So our HR department can put together can spend the time on it, put together the.
Yeah, original. Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.
Davis, can that person be as Jill was implying a part time.
Fund 80 and a part time fund 10 and be a PR person for the school district as well as the director for the aquatic center.
I think Jill is implying that it would be all funded. The PR person.
Correct. It would be funded on a fund 80. If you do a split position again going back to our strategic plan that should drive decision making because our community has.
Criticized the decisions that we make. So tying it back to that strategic plan would do that.
Right now, quite honestly, my solution that I would offer that is not.
I didn't even know if this fits in this discussion is that we create a second contract.
For likely Kelly, Jake and Glenda.
To be paid out of fund 80 to remove that personnel issue.
But that is not.
This current revise amendment.
But ties to it because we have to be able to discuss it and do something with it.
So.
Those employees you just mentioned.
Have signed contracts for.
26, 27.
You would have to offer them new contracts.
Which they would have to accept.
Clarifying question.
My thought is.
I understand completely the concern the personnel concern and the continued deficit.
If we don't have that.
Position there. I do understand that.
But I think we're losing sight of the fact that.
What is it is been effectively three months that the foundation came up with almost $2 million that they can.
Help with if needed.
I don't see why they would have put the energy into finding a person if they didn't know if the doors were going to stay open.
So with the speed that they came up with a solution on their end.
I feel like if we work with them.
That position could be created and failed rather relatively quickly.
I mean they've proven that time is of the.
They understand time is of the essence and they're willing to put in the work.
It just can't.
It has to happen in the correct order.
And to me keeping the doors open or knowing that the doors are going to be open.
I would put my energy into that before I would put it into filling a position that might not exist if the doors don't stay open.
Danny can you correct me if I'm wrong.
Maybe I'm remembering this incorrectly.
So at the last.
Pool task force meeting that we had.
I thought as Joe brought up too that the.
That that group was going to find.
A person is it that group or is it the school's responsibility just so we're clear.
We make sure we know who's supposed to be doing what.
So that the ball doesn't get.
I believe it was a joint effort because it would be they would be a district higher.
So the school has to be involved with that.
Okay.
If I'm understanding that correctly.
Okay.
Yes.
So it would be a joint effort.
Okay.
But again we have not posted for a position.
Yet.
Either.
Okay.
Let's bring us back to the amendment that's on the floor.
And that is changing item C.
The amount from two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to one hundred thousand dollars by July one.
We will have an opportunity after this vote because this is an amendment to discuss personal matters even farther.
As we vote on the main resolution.
I will vote against this revisions.
Not because I don't have faith in Mr. Cost and those involved in the foundation.
But simply because I value the pool too much to worry about the barriers that we just identified coming to fruition and causing a deficit enforcing the pool to be closed.
I feel very strongly that this revision to the amendment is likely to pass.
So I.
For safety comfort security of just having more of a buffer.
I am opposed to it.
And I just I just want to be very open and honest with my Wyatt and the vote.
I think the reason I make this amendment even if you think it's really easy to come up with a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars in a week.
I suspect it's not.
Mr. Cost could be probably the one to answer that question.
But I think this gives them a little more time to come up with the funds that we need.
Any other discussion of the amendment on the floor.
So to clarify what you're voting upon.
A yes vote is to change the two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to one hundred thousand dollars.
A no vote is to leave it the way that it speaks.
Is that clear for everybody.
Okay the voting device is now open.
Would anyone like to change their vote.
The vote is now closed.
We have seven yes and two no.
And the motion of the amendment carries.
So now the one is on the floor before you is the resolution.
And the resolution will speak of.
The way that it's worded with the exception of the one hundred thousand dollars on line C the second line.
Okay.
The floor is open for discussion.
Jill.
I think at the.
I think the goal of the task force was not to come up with a bandit but to come up with a solution.
Obviously we haven't quite gotten there yet.
It's a working solution.
My question is.
What are the thoughts of the board of this going on the ballot.
Or an advisory question.
I think we were relying on nine people to make a decision for the community.
The city and county are not an active participant in this.
So it's.
That's a barrier in my opinion.
Nobody wants to close it but funding in personnel issues are well identified.
With this resolution is there.
I am just curious on discussion from the board of let's truly get the community's feedback to say yes or no give us that directive.
Because the aquatic center is not on our strategic plan but it's considerable time money personnel.
Can we are we open to exploring getting the community's feedback to give us that clear directive when we are another.
So when you're asking to put a question on the ballot in November.
Yeah.
Okay.
So the question on the ballot in November would come after the board has set the tax levy.
So it would be effective.
It would be effective for the following year which would be twenty seven twenty eight.
Thus fund eighty three hundred thousand would be.
Continued use of the aquatic center.
Correct.
For the current year.
If the board votes in October for that.
Three thousand dollar tax levy for fund eighty as we have for the last several years.
Or it can be changed in October.
If the board chooses to do that.
So what kind of question would we want to put.
Just hypothetically on the ballot.
For.
An operation referendum to operate.
Just a simple guess of this is it's not a simple ballot thing.
There's a lot that goes into that but does the community desire to continue funding.
The Claire Armageddon Aquatic Center through fund eighty.
Tax levy.
Yes. No.
I mean because we're talking about the community the community the community that's like the full community taxpayers.
To say yes or no.
That's all I could with this resolution.
I'm thinking that just like right now but like.
So as I've gone to the convention for the last several years.
Some of the questions come up is when can a school district put items on the ballot.
And they the state legislators has restricted a narrow that down.
As to how often and when we can put things on the ballot.
So I'd have to ask Davis is it legal even for us to put something on the ballot in November.
Or do school districts only put things on the spring ballot.
I don't have that answer.
I don't have the answer out the top of my head Danny I apologize.
So I was asking if it is is it even legal to put anything from the school district on the ballot in November as a question.
Or do we have to wait until April and then if it is legal for us to put something on the ballot in November.
What exactly can we put on the ballot.
Right.
I understood your question.
I don't know the answer right now.
Oh I got you.
Okay.
I'm just simply curious of throwing that out there.
Maybe it's a survey that that's going to be.
I think it comes back to a long term solution.
So if our our vote if our in the vote comes back that yes we want to use our tax dollars to fund the pool.
That's the long term solution.
Then we just have to increase the levy every year to cover the finances.
But I'm not comfortable increasing the levy over two times to meet the needs of the pool without the directive from an actual vote and answers.
Thank you.
Okay any further questions of the resolution as we have amended it twice.
And now you have.
Can we just clarify who is responsible now then for carrying this out so that we've discussed that we brought the number down to a hundred thousand and we're going to have monthly meetings.
With the foundation to maintain this and so.
Is that monthly meeting going to be right in with the finance committee or who is responsible for carrying that out.
Davis you can correct me.
But I would believe that would fall on the finance committee and Kelly our.
Finance director.
To have those meetings and be able to inform Mr. Cost and the foundation as to where we're standing financially on that month to month basis.
So.
I don't think it's appropriate to be sending.
Your administrators to these meetings to address fund 80.
When they're fun 10 employees.
Whether, you know, we're talking about.
A matter of a minute or two of entering data in or generating a report and sending it to somebody.
You know, I'm not reading the statute that critically.
But.
When.
There is an expect expectation that hours and hours be dedicated.
That's when the issue arises as to whether.
The fun 10 employee is doing fun to 80 work.
And these meetings be taking place at the same time in conjunction with our monthly committee meeting.
Where Mr. Cost can listen to where the finances are on the monthly basis.
Because you just stated that our administrator can enter in the data.
Because that's not much time, but actually it would not fall on her to have the meeting with Mr. Cost, but he would come to the committee meeting.
Or he could be there and speaking with.
The chairman of the committee and Kelly being present at the committee meetings.
I'll be able to determine what is in the account on a monthly basis.
Is that doable.
This.
If we're talking about the reading of a report.
I think yes, and what it would be.
If it's.
Asking your business director to generate reports and it's someone and then people go have a discussion about it.
I'm comfortable with that.
I think it would be the report coming to the committee and the committee discussing that like they would discuss any other report.
At the committee level.
Am I missing?
Am I missing something?
No.
Okay.
But I don't.
I don't think it'd be appropriate to send.
Your administrators to those committee meetings specifically dedicated to funding.
But they come to the committee meetings already.
Yeah, they're at.
They're required to be at all the committee meetings.
The, the administrators are.
That's like going to your doctor's appointment and then saying I'm scheduled for my, my yearly wellness exam.
But I also have.
This secondary or separate concern and saying, can you just bill it coded as a wellness exam, but.
Kind of hide.
The voting for the secondary thing that I'm asking you to medically review as my doctor, like that's kind of what we're saying right now is.
Can we just kind of code it differently.
Right.
Which is why you've ended up in this problem.
Correct.
Yes.
But it's okay for her to.
Send the report to the committee head.
Yes.
So then if they want to have that meeting with the foundation at that meeting, does she have to leave the room?
I mean, are you saying you want a separate meeting that they can't come to the finance meeting?
You have to do it separately or.
I'm not looking to be shady at all, but I am looking at.
The best use of people's time.
I understand she's the one that's paid at the table, but if she's not doing much more than generating the report and then going to a meeting that she's already going to.
We've just said those two things are okay.
I just think she can't be part of the conversation.
That's, I mean, that's what I understand.
Yeah.
That's what I know.
I said it kind of.
Circastively.
Can you go?
Yeah.
What I don't like is.
It is a.
It is what you'll kind of explain it.
This is an attempt to be cute.
I'm.
Is everyone sitting there in all honesty saying that.
If Kelly's sitting at these meetings, no one's talking to her.
No one's going to ask her a question.
Period.
That's a fallacy.
It's, I mean.
Once we have the report, I don't know how many questions we need to ask or maybe at the beginning.
Until everyone's understanding is a little stronger.
But then at that point, once we all know what's going on and have those conversations, why
does she need to be a large part of it once she gives us that report?
The other piece is what Jill has always had been bringing up about the fund 80 employee.
Once that person is hired, then that person would be the one that would be at that committee
and speaking on behalf of the pool along with the committee and Mr. Coste with the foundation.
Right.
But we have to make concessions and help that happen.
Making concessions.
That's the struggle.
Everybody, the discussions in good shape, I entirely agree, but that's why we're here
is because we are using fund 10 to fund fund 80.
Understood.
But that's been a 20 year process to get us here.
We can't fix it in three months.
We have to take steps to get there.
Right.
I don't disagree.
No.
No, that's not true.
No, sorry, Jill.
That's not you can fix it.
You just need the money.
That's like, that's the difficult part here that these things can be solved with money.
These other districts who are doing this and a successfully running these operations have money.
There are strategic plans put in place for decades to create an endowment fund.
So there's always money available.
Understood.
You guys do not have that.
You need to address.
Will you create a system or demand a system so that you have money in place to do these things.
And it's not fair.
It's not fair to.
I'm going to go back to it.
It's not fair to the why.
To operate on a month a month.
And it's also not fair.
To the students of your district to have your.
Speaking from experience of working with your administrators every day.
They are they do not have time.
In their day to dedicate to the pool and take away from their dedication to the students.
That is why this employee position is so.
Oh, vitally important.
Because it's going to provide a person to create the link that is necessary.
To have operational to have information flowing from the pool.
To committees to people who are making decisions like the board.
But this expectation that.
The administration can keep.
Operating the way it has been.
And also be addressing.
The myriad of issues that are is frankly.
When you boil it down, it's an easy issue.
Do you have money or not.
And you don't have money.
And now we're trying to figure out ways.
To keep the pool operating without the proper money.
Like that's what this conversation is boiling down to.
And I cannot advise you.
To keep doing this.
But the money is there.
Where time to it's not.
Yes, it is.
It's not.
It's not there.
Okay.
It's not in my hand.
And our accounts.
We just need to have.
The things set in place where they know they're not throwing their money at nothing because we're going to close the doors regardless.
There are people in our community ready and willing to offer the money that we need.
To keep the doors open.
And then it is.
Yes, it's on us to fill that it fund 80 position.
I understand that completely.
But we need.
To also.
Give them a little bit of time to get that money to us.
They can't just write a check and set it on the table right now.
But it's there.
They've committed to it.
And we have not seen any reason to distrust their word.
I concern I have is.
Credit Union committed a million dollars one million dollars to their grid iron program.
And then rescinded that.
So.
That was in 2026.
So.
There can be chatter, but it goes to what Davis is saying and.
There it's not here currently.
So yes, again, I don't think anybody disagrees or doesn't have faith in Mr. cost and his ability.
But right now speaking.
We still we still currently do not have the money.
And we could have verbal commitments and.
Those fall through.
I guess my question honestly is.
By.
So we give if we give them the time with, you know, we've made these amendments if we vote this and we give them time.
To get this money to a fund that is set for the pool.
If they back out, then we close the doors at that point, correct?
So we're not any better worse off than we are right this minute.
It's just giving our community time.
To get their things in place so we can make this happen.
Is my talk.
And that's the same conversation we've been having since March.
We're giving them time to get the money.
None of us have ever said we wanted to close the doors.
Yeah.
I went through all of the meetings.
No, I completely understand that part too.
But we've never told them if we have the, it's my understanding.
It's never been said we need X amount of dollars.
And we need it now or it's done.
And I think that's where we need to be right now.
Just to be clear.
In April, the budget that's in front of the board tonight was presented to the foundation.
It was then.
Responded to by saying, no, you don't need that money.
You only need approximately $10,000.
Okay.
And so.
So since April, the foundation has known what the general ask is.
So there has been time.
For the foundation and the community and anybody else who wants to assist the district financially.
To keep this thing running.
This is not a surprise to anybody.
So that's.
Do I wish it was June 22nd and this is up for a vote?
Absolutely not.
But that is where we are.
That's why I don't believe it's a fair.
For attorney heighten.
If you said it, and I have a lot of respect for attorney heighten to say that the district has been gauging and bad faith negotiations.
Okay, is there any other questions or discussion of the motion on the floor?
The resolution.
Yes.
That failed.
Elimination number three failed.
Correctly.
No, it passed.
Thank you.
I'm trying to keep all the amendments in my mind.
So forgive me for miss speaking.
So the resolution before you the only change the two changes is letter C.
It is now $100,000 and number three is stricken.
That is the resolution before you.
The honored you have those.
In the minutes.
It is to the amendment.
The amendment is to change the 250,000 to the 100,000 and to remove the strike.
That's passed.
We're at the main resolution.
Yep.
We're at the main resolution where letter C is changed to 100,000.
Correct.
And number three is stricken.
Now that is the main motion.
This will be the final vote before the board on this issue.
Thank you.
For tonight.
I can't be an additional motion for the same topic.
You can offer a substitutionary motion.
No, I don't want to do that.
Any other questions regarding the resolution that is before you tonight?
So a yes vote to the resolution before you.
Would be changing letter C to $100,000 and striking number three.
If you are in agreement with that, you will vote yes.
If you disagree with that, then you will vote no.
Does everybody understand how you will vote?
I know a clarifying question.
Yes.
And at committee, it is simply a printout with no discussion.
Correct.
Any other questions?
Last and final time.
All right.
Your voting device is open.
A yes vote is for the resolution as it was amended.
A no vote is to not accept it.
Would anyone like to change their vote?
The vote is now closed.
And the motion carries eight to one.
And that is our resolution.
Okay.
I would like to take a short recess so I can go and see something.
So let's take a ten minute recess.
We'll be back at nine forty seven that Angie will be leaving.
Okay.
Her schedule is such that she's been a long day.
I would like to be considering to approve the second reading of the policy five four six zero graduation requirements.
I will be looking for a motion.
I move to approve the second reading of the policy fifty four six graduation requirements.
Motion has been made by Kristen.
Would you like to speak to your motion?
This is just the correction from our last meeting.
It's come to committee and it is now correct.
Are there any questions or discussion of the motion on the floor Mike?
Yeah, I just the graduation requirements.
Why are the credit requirements lower?
My observation is this affects all electives because students don't need to take classes.
And that's allowing our students to graduate earlier now.
Like we've been having quite a few students graduate as juniors which is okay.
But at the end of the day that also affects students in seats.
And the Wisconsin requirement or the average I guess is between twenty two and twenty three and a half.
Up to twenty six credits.
And I know you talked about this.
We're new here.
This went through the committee.
But I just why is it been lowered I guess.
So this policy wasn't to lower it.
We did that a few years back.
I do believe.
This adjustment was just to account for the change in the exception acceptance of algebra eight from the middle school.
And the surrounding areas of whether or not that was going to count towards a math credit.
So the discussion of lowering the credits was that was done in a previous update.
Thank you.
A couple of years ago I believe.
Yes I am.
Do you want to speak to that just to get some quick background I could otherwise.
Yeah.
You can join into because this was a few years ago.
So twenty two is the standard.
We looked at our school districts are around us ours was really high.
The credit necessary around electives.
There's a statute based in DPI.
Obviously it's for credits for ELA.
Three credits from math.
So there's some regulations around that.
But we had an extensive number of electives necessary to graduate which was causing a lot of students to not graduate.
So we wanted to make sure we were kind of in that sweet spot where all of our could take the courses that they wanted to that a lot of them the opportunity to move into the career and college that they chose.
After high school and still make sure they had adequate time within our schedule because we went from a.
I believe prior to me in eight hours schedule down to seven.
So there's some switching in the scheduling piece as well that caused our students not to be able to acquire all the credits necessary for graduation.
So it's definitely a scheduling piece and also to make sure that we're allocated with DPI and the statutes that they set for graduation.
So this one you're right.
I think Kristen it was around before we used to have the science credit be able to come in with eighth graders who took advanced science from different parochial schools and come in and get credit.
We realigned our science standards.
We've talked to the parochial schools extensively around that.
So we just needed the wording to match what we were offering within our K 12 system or four K 12 system.
Thank you, Amy.
Any other questions or discussion of the motion on the floor to approve the second reading of this policy 54 60.
Hearing no questions or discussion your voting devices now open.
And for new board members second reading means this becomes policy policies always go through two readings.
Before they become policy.
Okay, with anyone like to change their vote.
The vote is now closed.
And this motion carries.
Let us see consideration to approve the AGR achievement gap reduction 2026 spring data.
I will be looking for a motion, please.
I move to approve the AGR.
Data 2026 spring data as presented motions been made by Mike would you like to speak to your motion.
I know that this was presented in committee and it was thoroughly talked through so.
Any questions or discussion of the motion on the floor.
Amy, are there any highlights you would like to point out.
No, this is just concurrent with our data monitoring reports that we bring three times a year for all of the schools.
AGR reports are necessary by DPI that we get them approved by the school board.
It's part of our audit if we're ever audited as well under the AGR grant.
So we bring this separately just to make sure it's clearly.
School board approved, but then we dig deeper in our data monitoring reports to make sure that we show the board in the community exactly where we are on literacy and math.
Skills sets. So we break it down a little bit more in our data monitoring report and that's not state like necessary for the state, but we do that to be more transparent so that people know exactly where we are on our benchmark screeners.
We use aims web now. So if you look in the past on some of the AGR reports, you'll see fast bridge.
That was our benchmark screener. We're currently using aims web.
We flipped over completely this year for K 12 with that screener, but this is just kind of formality that we make sure that our.
AGR reports are board approved by you.
Thank you.
Thank you, Amy. Any other questions or discussion of the AGR?
I'll just add Amy. This is Jean. I really appreciate the effort that you put into these reports. They're super helpful.
You are welcome.
Any other questions or discussion?
Hearing no questions or discussion, your voting device is now open.
Would anyone like to change their vote?
The vote's now closed and the motion carries.
Letter D, consideration to approve the 2026 through 2029 for tenant renewal. I will be looking for a motion.
I move to approve the bid from camera corner and the amount of $65,990 for the 2026 to 2029 for tenant renewal.
Motion has been made by Mike. Would you like to speak to your motion?
No.
Are there any questions to the motion on the floor?
Hearing no questions or discussion of the motion on the floor, your voting device is now open.
Randy, give it another shot there.
Okay. Would anyone like to change their vote?
The vote is now closed and the motion carries.
I wanted to say this is Jean again. Thank you, Kesha, for the work you put into your report.
It's also really helpful and easy to follow.
I appreciate it.
Letter E, consideration to approve the printer slash copy RFP. I will be looking for a motion.
I move to approve the printer copy or proposal from EO Johnson for a five-year term.
Motion has been made by Jean. Would you like to speak to your motion?
No.
Any questions or discussion of the motion on the floor?
Hearing none, the voting device is now open.
Would anyone like to change their vote? The vote is now closed and the motion carries.
Letter F, consideration to approve the annual HRA contributions. I will be looking for a motion.
I move to approve the 2026-27 preliminary budget as presented.
We are on letter F. You can hold that one later.
Letter F.
The HRA.
Take two.
Round two.
I move to approve the annual contributions to the district's HRA plan for eligible staff in an amount not to exceed $68,475.
Motion has been made by Danny. Would you like to speak to your motion?
I think that that is a great asset to our staff and I'm happy to see that we are continuing that.
Is there any questions or discussion of the motion on the floor?
Yes, I have a question as a new board member. I don't have context from the past. I'm just curious how this compares to previous years.
As far as the amount that we are.
I have to defer that to Kelly.
Yes, so last year there was an amount of 158,000. That includes the $1,000 contribution for teachers.
The impact of sick leave buyout and then the impact of the retirement incentive contribution.
And as far as detailed and historic.
Numbers beyond that, those all should be in board docs as well.
If I look at past June, is this always come up in June?
I find it hard to find things in board docs.
Yeah, I'm not sure when the past administration has brought these forward.
Or if they have topic summary sheets like we do, we have detailed topic summary sheets that Mrs. Oginski has put into place since she's been here.
So I am not exactly sure what they've done in the past as to which month.
I would imagine it would be around March, April, May or June. It has to be done before June 30th.
Okay, thank you.
Deanna, would you please let the record reflect that I recused myself from the discussion and the vote of this item?
Is there any other discussion or question of the motion on the floor?
Hearing none, your voting device is now open.
Would anyone like to change their vote?
The vote is now closed.
And that motion carries.
Letter G, consideration of 2026, 2027, preliminary budget. I will be looking for a motion.
I move to approve the 2026, 27 preliminary budget as presented.
Motion made by Danny. Would you like to speak to your motion?
I will speak to this very briefly as then on the board for quite some time.
The preliminary budget is exactly what that first word says, preliminary.
This will change between now and the final budget that does come out that we vote on in October.
This just gives us an idea of where we are because there are factors and variables that will cause this change.
Kelly can opine on this if she would like to say some of those factors that could possibly change the budget.
So this is a 30,000 foot view of what a budget might look like for next year.
Did I explain that? Okay, Kelly.
Definitely. Yes, there are.
Many factors that determine what your revenue is, including enrollment and third Friday account in September is a large one.
And obviously we don't know what our revenue is until the fiscal year has already started. So that's one of the complexities of school finance.
Much like you're seeing with the pool, taxes fund.
Fund your budget and when those things when those numbers don't come out until after you're already operating.
That makes things difficult. So, yes, it's a preliminary budget that is our best projection with all the facts that we have at this time.
Thank you, Kelly.
Can I ask a question about page five and fund 80.
Which one are you looking at the June?
Never mind. I know where you are. Thank you.
Okay. Yeah, I think it's June.
June 20 preliminary budget.
This community service fund fund 80 and.
Kelly, are you there where he's asking?
Yes, I was just pleading for his question. Thank you.
Okay. The question is they're proposing that we're going to end up with a negative 869,000 in fund 80.
Is that presuming we're not going to get the past the bill for the 300? I mean, that's a mighty big jump up.
You know, that's a $700,000 jump up.
And the deficit of fund 80. That's what to me imply.
They're going to take in absolutely zero funds.
From the pool this year.
So that's an excellent question. And no, I did not assume that this school board was going to levy fund 80 funds.
Knowing that the $300,000 levy that has been done in the past.
Is not enough to fund the expenditures.
I am not going to assume or presume that the school board would put.
A number in there.
That's up to the school board to identify what they feel would be.
The best tax impact to impose on the taxpayers of the school district.
So no, I did not put anything in there for that. Again, we wouldn't know that number until the board.
Approves an amount that they would determine in the end of October.
That's also assuming there'd be about 112,000 ish of memberships and revenue that again still isn't guaranteed.
So I think we've talked about all the rest of the details earlier.
Kelly, I've got a question. I looked at the budget that was approved back in October.
And compared that 2526 budget from that meeting to your column of the 2526 budget on this preliminary for 2627.
And some of the numbers are off by a substantial amount.
The total ending fund balance on the very first page.
Under general fund fund 10 that account 9300.
In the October.
Budget, it was like 8.7 million.
And on your sheet, you've got 10.9 million. That's almost $2 million more.
And there are other ones like that, but I'm just curious why the numbers don't line up.
I was expecting them to be the same.
Great question. So school finance is very complex. So you're talking about two different funds right now.
Fund 80 is different than fund.
I'm not talking about fund 80.
Okay. I thought that's what you said in the beginning.
So I apologize.
Fund 10 on the very first page.
The ending fund balance that you have for 2526 is 10.9 million.
When I look at the budget that was approved by the board in October, it's 8.7 million. That's over $2 million difference.
Why are your budget 2526 numbers different than the approved budget in October?
So right now we have not done our fund 46 transfer yet.
And the budget is not our fiscal year to date is not over.
So that's exactly what Mr. Pyatt had stated that this is preliminary.
The ending of 2526 is not going to be finalized until the audit is over.
Your fund 46 transfer doesn't happen until the end of July.
So when you have funds that not have not been expanded, you have two choices.
One of them is to keep them in fund 10, which increases your taxes to your local taxpayers and decreases your aid.
And that's why we choose to fund fund 46. So that might be what you're seeing there.
So what you're calling budget 2526 is actually expenditures or actuals or something like that or predicted.
Right.
2526 is not over. Yep.
As just a similar question. I compared the 2425 numbers to the audit numbers and some of those don't agree either.
I guess I'm not sure what you're looking at right now.
Neither am I to be honest. I got I'm getting confused.
Yeah, it is very confusing. So I totally understand that.
I'll get the next time we look at the preliminary budget.
Yeah, in October.
Your audit isn't completely finished and closed out. And that's why.
Oh, for 2425.
Correct. Yeah. So when you're looking at your budget meeting in October,
you don't have finalized numbers and audited numbers necessarily in October.
And I know that seems confusing, but.
It's all the numbers don't get closed out until your final audit.
And that comes to the board as well. And when is the final audit?
Usually.
It's closed out and reported to the board in winter.
And when I say winter, it's because it's not an exact month. So every year.
You would be able to see that on when those things have gone to the board in the past.
Okay. Thank you.
Jean, I know the questions that you've been having about finances are the some of the same similar questions that I had back in 2017 when I came on the board.
And I went to the business director and he really helped me understand a lot of those. And I know other board members have done the same.
So if you could, I would set an appointment with Kelly and go and spend some time with her and she'll really do a dive with you in school.
Can we just do a Vulcan mind meld?
I am lost.
Star Trek reference. Sorry. Okay.
I'm sorry.
Okay. Moving right along. Any other questions or discussion of the motion on the floor?
Hearing none, your voting device is now open to approve the preliminary budget as presented.
Would anyone like to change their vote?
The vote is now closed.
And the motion carries with seven yeses and one no and the one no being might freeze it.
Item number five closed session consideration of a motion to adjourn into closed session pursuant to section 19.851 C and F for purposes of considering employment promotion compensation or performance evaluation data of any public employee over which the governmental
body has jurisdiction or exercises responsibility and considering financial medical, social or personal histories or disciplinary data of specific persons preliminary consideration of specific personnel problems or the investigation of charges against specific persons except where paragraph B applies which if discussed in public would be likely to have a substantial adverse effect upon the reputation of any person referred to in such histories or data
or involved in such problems or investigations to with discussion and possible action on applicability of grievance procedure to employee grievance. I will be looking for a motion.
Motion is made by Jill. Is there a second to the motion?
I'll second.
Second by Kristin. And for our new board members, our closed session times is always given by a motion and a second. And then there is always a roll call vote to go into closed session. So Diana, could you do the roll call vote please.
Can I ask a question for a standing?
Not while the vote is in motion.
Angie Schreiber.
Kristin Matmiller.
Yes.
Daniel Nicholson.
Yes.
Jean Adams.
Yes.
Mike Parisic.
Yes.
Melissa Cornelius.
Yes.
Randy Myers.
Yes.
Joe Madison.
Yes.
Danny Payett.
Yes.
We are now in closed session.