WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.000 You 00:30.000 --> 00:32.000 You 01:00.000 --> 01:02.000 You 01:30.000 --> 01:32.000 You 02:00.000 --> 02:02.000 You 02:30.000 --> 02:32.000 You 03:00.000 --> 03:02.000 You 03:30.000 --> 03:32.000 You 04:00.000 --> 04:02.000 You 04:30.000 --> 04:32.000 You 05:00.000 --> 05:02.000 You 05:30.000 --> 05:32.000 You 06:00.000 --> 06:02.000 You 06:30.000 --> 06:32.000 You 07:00.000 --> 07:02.000 You 07:30.000 --> 07:32.000 You 08:00.000 --> 08:02.000 You 08:30.000 --> 08:32.000 You 09:00.000 --> 09:02.000 You 09:30.000 --> 09:32.000 You 10:00.000 --> 10:02.000 You 10:30.000 --> 10:32.000 You 11:00.000 --> 11:02.000 You 11:02.000 --> 11:04.000 You 11:04.000 --> 11:06.000 Are you ready? 11:06.000 --> 11:08.000 Good evening. 11:08.000 --> 11:09.000 It is 708. 11:09.000 --> 11:14.000 I'm calling to order the special board meeting of Tuesday, June 2nd. 11:14.000 --> 11:16.000 May we have a roll call, please. 11:16.000 --> 11:17.000 Yes. 11:17.000 --> 11:18.000 Carol fox. 11:18.000 --> 11:19.000 Here. 11:19.000 --> 11:20.000 Tom hankins. 11:20.000 --> 11:21.000 Here. 11:21.000 --> 11:22.000 Bill Johnson. 11:22.000 --> 11:23.000 Here. 11:23.000 --> 11:24.000 Meghan miller. 11:24.000 --> 11:25.000 Present. 11:25.000 --> 11:26.000 Joanne rue. 11:26.000 --> 11:27.000 Here. 11:27.000 --> 11:28.000 Here. 11:28.000 --> 11:29.000 Dan Schuf. 11:29.000 --> 11:30.000 Here. 11:30.000 --> 11:31.000 And Tia Johnson. 11:31.000 --> 11:32.000 Here. 11:32.000 --> 11:34.000 All members are present. 11:34.000 --> 11:35.000 Thank you. 11:35.000 --> 11:38.000 May I get an approval of the agenda? 11:38.000 --> 11:39.000 So. 11:39.000 --> 11:40.000 Sorry. 11:40.000 --> 11:41.000 Second. 11:41.000 --> 11:43.000 Motion by Carol fox. 11:43.000 --> 11:45.000 Secureded by Megan miller. 11:45.000 --> 11:47.000 Any discussion? 11:47.000 --> 11:48.000 Hearing none. 11:48.000 --> 11:49.000 All in favor? 11:49.000 --> 11:50.000 Aye. 11:50.000 --> 11:51.000 Aye. 11:51.000 --> 11:52.000 Aye. 11:52.000 --> 11:53.000 Any opposed? 11:54.000 --> 11:57.000 Motion carries unanimously. 11:57.000 --> 11:58.000 Mr. Schope. 11:58.000 --> 12:00.000 Are there any public comments tonight? 12:00.000 --> 12:02.000 Yes, I have two in the room and an e-mail. 12:02.000 --> 12:03.000 Thank you. 12:03.000 --> 12:06.000 Members of the public are welcome to attend all open meetings of the Board of Education. 12:06.000 --> 12:12.000 Individuals attending board meetings are expected to conduct themselves in a respectful and courteous manner. 12:12.000 --> 12:15.000 That models appropriate behavior for our students. 12:15.000 --> 12:39.000 Individuals wishing to comment are expected to comply with the norms found on the back of your comment cards and in board policy 187 public participation and board meetings. 12:39.000 --> 12:51.000 They're planning a respectful and orderly meeting and prevent discussion discussing confidential matters in a public form by following these norms for public comments during board meetings. 12:51.000 --> 12:54.000 Thank you for your participation and courtesy. 12:54.000 --> 12:56.000 Mrs. Schope. 12:56.000 --> 12:59.000 The first person I have is Lauren. 13:09.000 --> 13:16.000 Okay. 13:16.000 --> 13:18.000 Good evening, everyone. 13:18.000 --> 13:23.000 I'm Lauren Burner and despite what you might think, I'm not here to talk about your overdue library books. 13:23.000 --> 13:27.000 I'm here once again to speak to you about the importance of our library staff. 13:27.000 --> 13:32.000 This past week while collecting nearly 400 student Chromebooks in my building 13:32.000 --> 13:37.000 to meet a warranty deadline that I do believe all of our librarians have or will meet. 13:37.000 --> 13:44.000 I spent time with my fifth grade classes reading the one thing you'd save by a new berry medalist Susan. 13:44.000 --> 13:46.000 Sorry, Linda, Sue Park. 13:46.000 --> 13:47.000 Sorry, I'm nervous. 13:47.000 --> 13:48.000 I don't know. 13:48.000 --> 13:49.000 I'm nervous today. 13:49.000 --> 13:53.000 As we read students eagerly engaged to share what they would save and why. 13:53.000 --> 13:57.000 At first, the answers were predictable cell phones, Xboxes, favor toys. 13:57.000 --> 14:02.000 But by the end of the book, the conversation had evolved into a much bigger question. 14:02.000 --> 14:05.000 What would be the one thing they would say from elementary school? 14:05.000 --> 14:07.000 Their answers were remarkable. 14:07.000 --> 14:11.000 They used library resources, the grain screen, the iPads, iMovie, tripods. 14:11.000 --> 14:16.000 They were so inspired that they decided to create a video showcasing the things they would save. 14:16.000 --> 14:23.000 While I promised those easily embarrassed fifth graders that I would not share their video with anybody other than their teachers and their parents, 14:23.000 --> 14:25.000 I can share you some of their words. 14:25.000 --> 14:29.000 They said, Mr. Kargle, he's our school counselor, because he listens. 14:29.000 --> 14:32.000 The track meet, even if it made me gross. 14:32.000 --> 14:35.000 4K nap time, I agree. 14:35.000 --> 14:39.000 And once the student simply said the library, it's the best in the world. 14:39.000 --> 14:42.000 The library is the best in the world. 14:42.000 --> 14:49.000 When we talk about reducing librarian staff to 0.5 per building, we're talking about giving up pieces of what makes the school meaningful for students. 14:49.000 --> 14:55.000 We're talking about losing the opportunity for collaboration, creativity, exploration, and innovation. 14:55.000 --> 15:01.000 We're talking about limiting access to those resources, technology and learning experiences that students value and remember. 15:01.000 --> 15:05.000 Most importantly, we're reducing access to the library itself. 15:05.000 --> 15:11.000 There's a very good possibility that the library will be closed if there's not a person in there. 15:11.000 --> 15:18.000 I would love to stand here and tell you that we can continue to provide the same level of service, instruction and support with half-time staffing. 15:18.000 --> 15:20.000 Realistically, we cannot. 15:20.000 --> 15:22.000 There are only so many hours in a day. 15:22.000 --> 15:30.000 The reduction to appoint staff will likely mean the library spaces will be closed, a significant portion of the week limiting access to students and staff alike. 15:31.000 --> 15:34.000 I respectfully ask you to reconsider this reduction. 15:34.000 --> 15:42.000 Keep librarians in our building full-time for the coming year so we continue to provide the support, instruction and opportunities for our students that they deserve. 15:42.000 --> 15:47.000 Also for our teachers, because we're at the elementary level, we're currently part of their prep time. 15:47.000 --> 15:58.000 If in the future there's district changes require you to revisit staffing levels, a conversation can happen when broader decisions are made about building closures or district restructuring. 15:59.000 --> 16:05.000 But today, I ask you to preserve the rest services, relationships and opportunities that our libraries are providing. 16:05.000 --> 16:11.000 Because when a fifth grader tells you that the library is the best place in the world, it's probably something we should listen to. 16:11.000 --> 16:12.000 Thanks. 16:14.000 --> 16:15.000 Thank you. 16:15.000 --> 16:16.000 Genesis Show. 16:16.000 --> 16:18.000 Next, I have James. 16:25.000 --> 16:27.000 Good evening, Dr. Anderson and members of the board. 16:27.000 --> 16:34.000 On behalf of the Boy Education Association, I would like to thank you for your work and time you have dedicated to addressing the district's budget challenges. 16:34.000 --> 16:40.000 We understand that these are difficult decisions with long-term impacts on our schools, staff, students and community. 16:40.000 --> 16:45.000 At the same time though, we strongly encourage the board to make budget decisions as soon as possible. 16:45.000 --> 16:52.000 Staff members need clarity about the direction of the budgets they can properly prepare for the next school year and make personal and professional decisions. 16:52.000 --> 16:57.000 Continued uncertainty creates stress and it makes difficult to plan effectively. 16:57.000 --> 17:03.000 No matter which budget option the board approves, we urge the board to maintain the dean positions at the elementary schools. 17:03.000 --> 17:12.000 These positions play a critical role in supporting student discipline, building positive school culture and helping teachers maintain safe and productive learning environments. 17:12.000 --> 17:19.000 Elementary deans provide direct support to students, staff and families allowing classroom teachers to focus on instruction and student achievement. 17:20.000 --> 17:23.000 The BAA is also concerned about the reduction in media specialists. 17:23.000 --> 17:28.000 As we just heard, they provide many wonderful opportunities for our students. 17:28.000 --> 17:32.000 And we are concerned about the reduction in the services that will be offered to students. 17:32.000 --> 17:40.000 And we wonder what the plan is to provide coverage for elementary teacher prep time because the media specialists do provide some of that coverage. 17:40.000 --> 17:46.000 We understand the concern with operating expenses at certain buildings and the desire to rearrange programs in possibly buildings. 17:46.000 --> 17:50.000 We agree that some changes are probably necessary and will absolutely need to take place. 17:50.000 --> 17:54.000 However, trying to make most of those changes for next year doesn't seem feasible. 17:54.000 --> 18:00.000 Here we are in June and many staff members are dealing with a lot of stress and uncertainty about their job for next year. 18:00.000 --> 18:04.000 Do they have a job? What will the job be and where will that job be located? 18:04.000 --> 18:11.000 Trying to incorporate major reconfigurations in such a short time span is only going to elevate the stress level of staff. 18:12.000 --> 18:15.000 Please come together as a board and make a budget decision soon. 18:15.000 --> 18:20.000 So administration can move forward with staffing plans and principals can move forward with a plan to staff the building for next year. 18:20.000 --> 18:21.000 Thank you. 18:23.000 --> 18:24.000 Thank you. 18:24.000 --> 18:25.000 Mr. Show. 18:27.000 --> 18:30.000 Okay. The email I have is from Emily. 18:30.000 --> 18:35.000 I want to take a moment to speak about the proposed changes to our district's health services, 18:35.000 --> 18:42.000 specifically the reduction to three nurses and the removal of the director of health without any discussion of a replacement coordinator role. 18:42.000 --> 18:48.000 I understand that difficult financial decisions must be made, but these changes raise serious concerns about safety, 18:48.000 --> 18:52.000 oversight and the integrity of the entire health services system. 18:52.000 --> 18:58.000 First, reducing to three nurses across the district significantly limits our capacity to meet student needs. 18:58.000 --> 19:02.000 The medical complexity of our student population continues to grow. 19:02.000 --> 19:09.000 We are responsible for students with chronic conditions, emergency care plans, daily medications and mental health concerns. 19:09.000 --> 19:16.000 With fewer nurses, coverage becomes thinner, response times increase and opportunities for preventative care decrease. 19:16.000 --> 19:21.000 But that, I'm sorry, but what is even more concerning is the removal of the director of health. 19:21.000 --> 19:24.000 The director is not just in administrative position. 19:24.000 --> 19:27.000 It is the role that holds the entire system together. 19:27.000 --> 19:33.000 This position provides essential oversight of both nurses and HRAs, ensuring that everyone is supported, 19:33.000 --> 19:37.000 properly supervised and working within safe consistent standards. 19:37.000 --> 19:44.000 The director also plays a critical role in ensuring that policies and procedures are in compliance with state and federal regulations. 19:44.000 --> 19:53.000 That includes maintaining up-to-date protocols, ensuring proper documentation, guiding staff training and making sure the district is meeting legal and safety requirements. 19:53.000 --> 20:01.000 Without that leadership, we risk inconsistency gaps in practice and potential compliance issues. 20:01.000 --> 20:06.000 In addition, HRAs rely on strong oversight to function safely and effectively. 20:06.000 --> 20:12.000 They are valuable members of the team, but they are not licensed nurses. 20:12.000 --> 20:23.000 They depend on clear direction, structured supervision and access to clinical decision making when situations become complex. 20:23.000 --> 20:31.000 Without a director or coordinator overseeing both nurses and HRAs, it becomes unclear who is responsible for that supervision and accountability. 20:31.000 --> 20:36.000 That lack of structure creates risk for students, for staff and for the district. 20:36.000 --> 20:41.000 When a system like this loses leadership, it doesn't just become leaner, it becomes fragmented. 20:41.000 --> 20:48.000 Practices can vary from building to building. Staff are left without consistent guidance and critical responsibilities can fall through the cracks. 20:48.000 --> 20:56.000 Families trust that our district has a safe, coordinated health system in place, removing both capacity and leadership undermines that trust. 20:56.000 --> 21:03.000 This is not just about reducing positions, it is about removing the structure that ensures those positions work safely and effectively. 21:04.000 --> 21:14.000 If changes must be made, there must still be a clearly defined role of responsibility for overseeing nurses and HRAs and ensuring compliance with policies and procedures. 21:14.000 --> 21:18.000 Without that, we are not maintaining a safe system, we are increasing risk. 21:18.000 --> 21:26.000 I urge you to reconsider this decision or to put a clear plan in place for maintaining the oversight and compliance that our students and staff depend on. 21:26.000 --> 21:28.000 Thank you. 21:28.000 --> 21:30.000 That's all I have. 21:30.000 --> 21:32.000 This is Shelton. 21:32.000 --> 21:45.000 Our next item is the first board action discussion item, revised school calendars 2026, 2027 and 2027, 2028. 21:45.000 --> 21:50.000 Tonight we've got Dr. Leah Gordon-Malott and Jeff Stenrose. 21:50.000 --> 21:56.000 And the purpose of this is to request the Board of Education approve the revised calendars for these school years. 21:56.000 --> 21:58.000 Mr. Stenrose. 21:59.000 --> 22:01.000 So welcome. 22:01.000 --> 22:07.000 So we are presenting the 2627 and 2728 calendars. 22:07.000 --> 22:19.000 I presented them previously and was presented with one typographical omission and then one that I had looked at the contract wrong in working with HR. 22:19.000 --> 22:21.000 They had alerted me to some things. 22:21.000 --> 22:30.000 So the first one, which was a typographical error, if you look at the 2627 calendar and it applies to that one only. 22:30.000 --> 22:34.000 My presentation tab isn't working here. 22:34.000 --> 22:42.000 Okay, thank you. 22:43.000 --> 23:00.000 So what happened was in March of 2027, we had March 19 as a report card prep day and the term the quarter did not actually end until April 2nd. 23:00.000 --> 23:04.000 So we were preparing report cards the week before the quarter actually ended. 23:04.000 --> 23:10.000 So that and the two conference dates or the three conference dates had to move back a week. 23:10.000 --> 23:18.000 From the 9th and 11th and 18th of March, which were in orange, they moved down a week to the 16th, 18th and 1st of April. 23:18.000 --> 23:23.000 And March 19 as the report card day moved to April 2nd. 23:23.000 --> 23:29.000 So that was a typographical error that 8 to 10 people, including myself, did not catch once we moved the quarter date. 23:29.000 --> 23:31.000 So that was first and that's only on that calendar. 23:31.000 --> 23:41.000 For both the 2627 and 2728 calendar, there was a date in August, the Friday of teacher in service week. 23:41.000 --> 23:47.000 And then the very last teacher day in June, they were both coded black. 23:47.000 --> 23:54.000 They were put in as compensation days for evening conferences and events as teacher days. 23:54.000 --> 24:01.000 And via our contract, the conferences do not fall underneath the 190 day to 192 day count. 24:01.000 --> 24:04.000 So we put those back in as teacher work days in there. 24:04.000 --> 24:05.000 So it was a color coding. 24:05.000 --> 24:18.000 It didn't affect the actual days that students were in session, but I want to make sure we provided clarity that they are part of the 100 or the teachers needed the two additional days in the 190 day two day contract and they became teacher work days in those calendars. 24:18.000 --> 24:20.000 And that was for both years. 24:21.000 --> 24:22.000 Dr. Anderson? 24:27.000 --> 24:32.000 Is that I was the one who directed Mr. Stenvers to make that change. 24:32.000 --> 24:40.000 It's something that I was used to in other districts that if you did tonight's conferences, then you made up with a free day. 24:40.000 --> 24:44.000 I was unaware that our handbook had language to say the other. 24:44.000 --> 24:49.000 So he followed my direction and we found out that the handbook stated otherwise. 24:49.000 --> 24:50.000 So then we had to make the correction back. 24:50.000 --> 24:54.000 So it's actually my error that you have incorporated. 24:54.000 --> 24:56.000 Thank you, Dr. Anderson. 24:56.000 --> 25:04.000 Is there a motion for approval of the revised 2026-27 and the 2027-28 school district calendars? 25:04.000 --> 25:05.000 So moved. 25:05.000 --> 25:06.000 Second. 25:07.000 --> 25:12.000 Motion by Dan Shoeff, seconded by Carol Fox. 25:12.000 --> 25:14.000 Is there any discussion? 25:17.000 --> 25:19.000 Hearing none, all in favor? 25:19.000 --> 25:20.000 Aye. 25:20.000 --> 25:21.000 Aye. 25:21.000 --> 25:22.000 Aye. 25:22.000 --> 25:23.000 Aye. 25:23.000 --> 25:24.000 Aye. 25:24.000 --> 25:25.000 Any opposed? 25:25.000 --> 25:27.000 Motion carries unanimously. 25:28.000 --> 25:39.000 Our next item tonight is the Skills USA National Conference. 25:39.000 --> 25:44.000 This is Mr. Stenvers again with Dr. Leah Gordon-Malott. 25:44.000 --> 25:48.000 And the purpose is to request funding assistance from the Board of Education. 25:48.000 --> 25:50.000 Mr. Stenvers? 25:51.000 --> 25:53.000 Yeah, so we were fortunate enough this year. 25:53.000 --> 25:57.000 Our Skills USA group is in our second year of organization. 25:57.000 --> 26:04.000 And we placed third in the state as a chapter of excellence. 26:04.000 --> 26:06.000 Last year we were a gold winner. 26:06.000 --> 26:10.000 This year we were a bronze winner, but we're the only public high school in the last two years to do that, 26:10.000 --> 26:17.000 which also qualified us to send students to the national competition and leadership conference in Atlanta, Georgia. 26:18.000 --> 26:23.000 We also had a state winner in Masonry, Melissa Barca. 26:23.000 --> 26:27.000 And she, again, we had a outstanding finish. 26:27.000 --> 26:32.000 We found out we, instead of just the top three in Masonry that we were given when they give the state results, 26:32.000 --> 26:38.000 we found out we finished first, second, third, fourth, fifth, and seventh in Masonry. 26:38.000 --> 26:43.000 So with that, we were, again, state winner allows to go to nationals. 26:43.000 --> 26:47.000 And so the students have gone on to nationals. 26:47.000 --> 26:54.000 They are currently in Atlanta, Georgia right now participating in the Skills USA Competition and National Leadership Conference. 26:54.000 --> 27:00.000 So with the cost of four students going and two chaperones, 27:00.000 --> 27:05.000 the total cost is roughly about $10,600. 27:05.000 --> 27:10.000 Give or take, there's some ground transportation and some meal pieces that we can't put an exact dollar amount to 27:10.000 --> 27:15.000 until we can come back, but we've sort of approximated, but it is flight, hotel, registration, 27:15.000 --> 27:18.000 some of the ground transportation that is provided for that. 27:18.000 --> 27:25.000 My request to the school board was to sponsor this with $8,000, 27:25.000 --> 27:30.000 with the remaining funds coming from my CTE funds that we have through Act 59, 27:30.000 --> 27:33.000 that are certifications that these students would earn. 27:33.000 --> 27:36.000 So that would be my request is for the full board to go ahead. 27:36.000 --> 27:39.000 We presented this to the committee before and they had a recommendation that was different. 27:39.000 --> 27:44.000 I'm still going back and asked for a full $8,000, not the full cost of the trip, 27:44.000 --> 27:49.000 but $8,000 to support the students that are there currently. 27:49.000 --> 27:55.000 Thank you. Dr. Anderson, is there anything you want to add to this? 27:55.000 --> 28:02.000 Just I think it's exceptional that we have students that can represent our school district at the national level. 28:02.000 --> 28:09.000 That shows that we are doing a great job of preparing these students to compete at such a high level. 28:09.000 --> 28:14.000 Thank you. Are there any board member questions or comments? 28:14.000 --> 28:19.000 Tom? Yes, Jeff, you mentioned masonry. 28:19.000 --> 28:24.000 How many other areas are we involved with the CTE? 28:24.000 --> 28:29.000 So we actually had a student place third at state and culinary. 28:29.000 --> 28:34.000 We had students, there is in leadership and resume. 28:34.000 --> 28:39.000 So we had five or six different areas where students competed. 28:39.000 --> 28:46.000 And we have potentially, as we started small, but there are culinary, there is medical nursing, 28:46.000 --> 28:49.000 there is some other leadership pieces. 28:49.000 --> 28:56.000 So there's a wide array. We only started with participants in five different competitions at this point in time. 28:57.000 --> 29:04.000 But if you had the wherewithal, you could have people involved in X amount of 70, 80 participants 29:04.000 --> 29:08.000 from the Deloitte Memorial High School participating at the state competition. 29:08.000 --> 29:09.000 Yes. 29:09.000 --> 29:13.000 We may have a problem of having to send 10, 12, 15 kids to nationals. 29:13.000 --> 29:14.000 You are right, Mr. Ankins. 29:14.000 --> 29:19.000 Okay, thank you. Thank you, congratulations. 29:19.000 --> 29:26.000 I don't take the honor. That is Joe Kluge and who is the teacher leader of SkillsUSA 29:26.000 --> 29:31.000 and what they do with, it's a student-run organization and they push themselves. 29:31.000 --> 29:35.000 Carol Fox? 29:35.000 --> 29:41.000 We're very proud of these students and we're very grateful for the programs that you've put in place. 29:41.000 --> 29:46.000 And we can improve 8,000, we can improve 2,000, we can improve nothing. 29:46.000 --> 29:49.000 We don't have any budgets. 29:49.000 --> 29:54.000 So if we approve it, it's going to have to come out of somebody else's budget, right? 29:54.000 --> 29:56.000 I mean, that's the reality. 29:56.000 --> 30:03.000 There was apparently something that somebody said was a superintendent's budget that did some board things. 30:03.000 --> 30:07.000 If we had something like that, it's gone. 30:07.000 --> 30:11.000 So we could say, okay, we'd be glad to do it. 30:11.000 --> 30:16.000 Then Dr. Anderson's going to have to go look, and it's going to have to go look in somebody else's budget 30:16.000 --> 30:18.000 and see if there's any left over. 30:18.000 --> 30:25.000 And if there is, I'm all for it. If there's not, you know, I guess it's going to have to come out of your CTE budget. 30:25.000 --> 30:32.000 What I would say, and it's nothing to do with you, is that as the board, we need to get out of the business 30:32.000 --> 30:37.000 of having people come and asking us for funding for special events. 30:37.000 --> 30:43.000 Somehow that needs to be built in to somebody's budget, either the TLE budget or the high school budget. 30:43.000 --> 30:50.000 Or somebody's budget that is a little money set aside for people who win contests or do special things. 30:50.000 --> 30:57.000 But to have people come and continually request things, when we would really, we don't have any funds to give. 30:57.000 --> 31:02.000 And then it looks like we're being mean to that group because we gave money to that group. 31:02.000 --> 31:06.000 And that's just not really what we should be doing. 31:06.000 --> 31:10.000 We're here to support all of our groups and everybody. 31:10.000 --> 31:17.000 So if Dr. Anderson thinks he can come up with somebody's budget somewhere, that there's an extra $4,000, 31:17.000 --> 31:21.000 you know, so be it. 31:21.000 --> 31:24.000 Otherwise you'll probably have to take it out of your CTE budget. 31:24.000 --> 31:27.000 And Board Member Fox, I'm well aware that I hear that. 31:27.000 --> 31:31.000 And it's other organizations that have been asked and have been. 31:31.000 --> 31:34.000 And so to support my group, I have to come forward and ask for that. 31:34.000 --> 31:36.000 And I fully understand that. 31:36.000 --> 31:42.000 But that's also why our students are there competing now, because I said it's that important and I did pay for out of my budget, 31:42.000 --> 31:44.000 which it takes away from something else. 31:44.000 --> 31:45.000 And that is the reality of it. 31:45.000 --> 31:48.000 But I did have to come forward and then request this from the board. 31:48.000 --> 31:49.000 So thank you. 31:49.000 --> 31:50.000 I do appreciate that as well. 31:50.000 --> 31:52.000 And I do not take it personally. 31:53.000 --> 31:55.000 You know, we've got to get out of it. 31:55.000 --> 32:02.000 We've got to, you know, we just can't be continuing to have people come and request money somehow, 32:02.000 --> 32:06.000 especially for people who win contests or do special things like that. 32:06.000 --> 32:09.000 It needs to be built in or planned ahead. 32:09.000 --> 32:17.000 I mean, obviously you need to start planning now because you are likely to have a lot of people that are going to be going into that. 32:18.000 --> 32:22.000 My personal take is the Ellington thing. 32:22.000 --> 32:25.000 They need to start planning now because they've been going year after year. 32:25.000 --> 32:27.000 They're probably going to go again. 32:27.000 --> 32:33.000 And, you know, we need to be getting out of the business of saying, yeah, we're just going to give you extra money. 32:33.000 --> 32:44.000 But like I said, I think procedurally and financially we need to come up with better systems for how we support things like people who win contests 32:44.000 --> 32:49.000 and we need to go on unexpected kinds of excursions. 32:49.000 --> 32:52.000 Any other board join room? 32:52.000 --> 32:53.000 Yes, thank you. 32:53.000 --> 33:00.000 I was just wanting to say I 100% agree with what Carol is saying. 33:00.000 --> 33:03.000 Congratulations again to the students. 33:03.000 --> 33:04.000 Fantastic. 33:04.000 --> 33:07.000 It's we don't have any money. 33:07.000 --> 33:13.000 And so we need to come up with a policy or have a budget line item somewhere. 33:13.000 --> 33:21.000 In our budget that takes care of this so we don't keep having this happen because it's hard. 33:21.000 --> 33:23.000 And I don't know. 33:23.000 --> 33:27.000 It seems like there should be another way. 33:27.000 --> 33:29.000 Megan Miller. 33:29.000 --> 33:30.000 Thank you. 33:30.000 --> 33:37.000 When this was discussed at committee, one of the things that was and I realize this doesn't satisfy like the full purpose of your request. 33:37.000 --> 33:42.000 But because we're having the discussion, one thing that was talked about was how do we make it easier? 33:42.000 --> 33:48.000 How do we make it easier for the community outside of the amazing and wonderful partnerships you already have? 33:48.000 --> 33:59.000 And I think to Mr. Stenres' credit, he did an outstanding job delineating the many, many, many ways that our business community partners do so much for our kids and our district. 33:59.000 --> 34:01.000 And we are so grateful for that. 34:01.000 --> 34:08.000 Beyond that, there is a greater scope of the community who is not part of necessarily that group who would love to support our students. 34:08.000 --> 34:10.000 I'm sure many of them are here in this room. 34:10.000 --> 34:15.000 So I guess my question would be, I think we have something on the website. 34:15.000 --> 34:18.000 If you look where you can like, hey, make a donation to the district. 34:18.000 --> 34:19.000 Is there something that in the spirit? 34:19.000 --> 34:24.000 I know Mr. Shuf has talked a few times now about like marketing and things like that. 34:24.000 --> 34:39.000 Can like how difficult would it be for us like in the meantime while we figure out our policy stuff to set something up where like if I'm a parent or I'm excited, you know, I can say, hey, family and friends, go to this website and click here and that supports Mr. Stenres' CTE budget. 34:39.000 --> 34:41.000 And you can make like a donation directly to it. 34:41.000 --> 34:44.000 And I realize like with Fontana net, it's more complicated. 34:44.000 --> 34:51.000 But I guess what I'm wondering and maybe it's more of a Stephanie question is like, is that something that in the meantime we could set up? 34:51.000 --> 34:53.000 I don't know, Miss Elwood. 34:53.000 --> 34:55.000 I don't mean to put you on the spot, but like it's. 34:55.000 --> 34:57.000 It is getting a little off topic. 34:57.000 --> 34:58.000 So it is. 34:58.000 --> 35:08.000 And so I mean, if Mrs. Elwood wouldn't, excuse me, if executive director Elwood wouldn't mind responding in email or you guys could take it off. 35:08.000 --> 35:11.000 Off to the side, that would be great. 35:11.000 --> 35:12.000 That's great. 35:12.000 --> 35:13.000 Thank you. 35:13.000 --> 35:14.000 A question. 35:14.000 --> 35:16.000 Are there any other board member quick? 35:16.000 --> 35:17.000 Bill Johnson. 35:17.000 --> 35:19.000 Yes, thank you for all you do. 35:19.000 --> 35:24.000 My cousins are teachers in California and they're involved and they sent people to this. 35:24.000 --> 35:37.000 And I talked to him and there is a guy, I don't remember his name, but he said that the first year you win, they'll pay for the first place person to go to this training. 35:37.000 --> 35:40.000 And I will get to the name of the guy and stuff. 35:40.000 --> 35:45.000 He's involved with stuff like this because they did actually win the masonry there. 35:45.000 --> 35:46.000 That would be awesome. 35:46.000 --> 35:50.000 We will take any links or possibilities for resources that we can. 35:50.000 --> 35:51.000 Okay, thank you. 35:51.000 --> 35:56.000 Dan, did you have any questions or comments? 35:56.000 --> 35:57.000 Okay. 35:57.000 --> 36:05.000 One that I have, Dr. Anderson is so this request is for between four and eight thousand. 36:05.000 --> 36:10.000 Where do we stand right now? 36:10.000 --> 36:14.000 Is this something that we can do? 36:14.000 --> 36:16.000 Is there money somewhere? 36:16.000 --> 36:22.000 Is it a challenge to go out and find something? 36:22.000 --> 36:31.000 Well, I would say the good news is that originally you had planned to go into fund equity, you know, to help balance this year's budget. 36:31.000 --> 36:35.000 And it looks like we should finish okay. 36:35.000 --> 36:48.000 So, but finishing okay means, I don't know that you're going to have much leave away for just what we normally budgeted unless you go into other funds. 36:48.000 --> 37:01.000 So, if you're asking, you know, if we don't dip into any additional funds like the OPEB or the fund equity, which you had already approved, I guess, when you passed this budget. 37:01.000 --> 37:07.000 Then I'm going to say, I don't know that I think we're going to be really close. 37:07.000 --> 37:08.000 I don't know you have any. 37:08.000 --> 37:17.000 If you want to go and use some of the money that you had originally allocated when you passed the budget for the 2526 school year, then the answer is. 37:17.000 --> 37:25.000 Yes, because right now it looks like we will not have to go into it to balance the 2526 budget. 37:25.000 --> 37:32.000 But in just a second, we're going to talk about 2627 and that will be, you know, a different conversation. 37:33.000 --> 37:38.000 So, depending, could we find something somewhere? 37:38.000 --> 37:42.000 The answer is probably something somewhere. 37:42.000 --> 37:55.000 But we are going to be pretty close to finishing right even. 37:55.000 --> 37:56.000 Tom Hankins. 37:56.000 --> 37:59.000 Thank you, which leads me to a question. 37:59.000 --> 38:05.000 The sale of a meal in the 680, I think, or somewhere in that. 38:05.000 --> 38:12.000 That just gets absorbed into fund 10 and, I mean, it wasn't unexpected income. 38:12.000 --> 38:19.000 I'm just wondering, because people have asked me, and I'm just asking Dr. Wayne, how that happens? 38:20.000 --> 38:36.000 Yes, it does get absorbed into fund 10, and that's one of the reasons that you may not have to go into your old pepper fund equity to balance this year's budget, because that was income that wasn't planned on when this, when the 2526 budget was passed. 38:36.000 --> 38:37.000 Thank you. 38:37.000 --> 38:43.000 So, if we didn't sell it, then we'd really be in a hole. 38:43.000 --> 38:44.000 Ask an answer. 38:44.000 --> 38:48.000 Thank you. 38:48.000 --> 39:01.000 Is there a motion for approval of the extended field trip to the Skills USA National Conference with $4,000 support from the Board of Education? 39:01.000 --> 39:04.000 So moved. 39:04.000 --> 39:05.000 I'll second. 39:05.000 --> 39:10.000 Motion by Megan Miller, seconded by Joanne Roo. 39:10.000 --> 39:17.000 Any discussion? 39:18.000 --> 39:19.000 All in favor? 39:19.000 --> 39:20.000 Aye. 39:20.000 --> 39:21.000 Aye. 39:21.000 --> 39:22.000 Aye. 39:22.000 --> 39:23.000 Any opposed? 39:23.000 --> 39:24.000 Aye. 39:24.000 --> 39:31.000 I have opposed. 39:36.000 --> 39:43.000 Motion carries 6 to 1 with Carol Fox in the negative. 39:44.000 --> 39:48.000 Thank you, Mr. Stenrose and Dr. Anderson. 39:48.000 --> 39:53.000 Good luck. 39:53.000 --> 40:03.000 Our next item is the budget D option. 40:03.000 --> 40:11.000 And tonight we've got Dr. Anderson with the cabinet presenting, helping to present. 40:11.000 --> 40:20.000 And the purpose of this is over the last couple of meetings, board members have reviewed several reduction options, staffing plans, forecasts, et cetera. 40:20.000 --> 40:23.000 Attached is the latest option, option D. 40:23.000 --> 40:29.000 Dr. Anderson will review this option and ask board member feedback. 40:29.000 --> 40:34.000 Dr. Anderson? 40:34.000 --> 40:37.000 This is a discussion we've had multiple times. 40:37.000 --> 40:46.000 I will tell you what I hope to accomplish tonight is I'm not asking you to take action tonight. 40:46.000 --> 40:52.000 I would like action at our regularly scheduled meeting on the 16th, which is in two weeks. 40:52.000 --> 41:03.000 But what I would like to do tonight is I would like to be able to leave this meeting and know that I could either make additions or deletions to 41:03.000 --> 41:13.000 the latest proposal, proposal D that will garner a majority of support for the board so that we can pass a budget and get on to 41:13.000 --> 41:16.000 other issues we have to deal with. 41:16.000 --> 41:18.000 The budget is a complicated item. 41:18.000 --> 41:21.000 It's not just the dollars for next year. 41:21.000 --> 41:32.000 And one of the things that I had mentioned and I want to mention it again tonight is I think it would be in the board's best interest if we could schedule a meeting this summer. 41:32.000 --> 41:41.000 June or July because I know that it's busy so that we could talk about facilities for the 2728 school year. 41:41.000 --> 41:48.000 We already know that with the expansion of the Lincoln Academy that we are going to lose students. 41:48.000 --> 42:00.000 Now, we're not going to lose as many the first year as we had originally anticipated because we had originally anticipated that the Learning Academy would basically open up all of its grade levels at the same time. 42:00.000 --> 42:02.000 That is not going to be the case. 42:02.000 --> 42:11.000 They're going to do a phase in which means that we won't have, I mean, they're still going to take students from us. 42:11.000 --> 42:18.000 However, it's going to be incremental over a period of a few years. 42:18.000 --> 42:29.000 However, we still need to look at how we're going to use facilities because are we going to need all of our facilities if we lose another 700 students in the next several years? 42:29.000 --> 42:31.000 The answer is probably not. 42:31.000 --> 42:33.000 But how are we going to use the facilities? 42:33.000 --> 42:35.000 How will we repurpose them? 42:35.000 --> 42:40.000 What facilities do we want to use for educational purposes? 42:40.000 --> 42:44.000 What facilities do we want to sell? 42:44.000 --> 42:58.000 And I would encourage if we can have a discussion at the board level, then I already have right now 31 staff members signed up that would like to be parts of either the reorganization committee. 42:58.000 --> 43:01.000 Or the student enrollment committee. 43:01.000 --> 43:06.000 So we have staff members that are interested in being part of those committees. 43:06.000 --> 43:12.000 I want to thank Megan Miller for giving me a list of community members. 43:12.000 --> 43:16.000 She's the only board member who has. 43:16.000 --> 43:18.000 So thank you, Megan. 43:18.000 --> 43:22.000 Because I would like to get those committees operational to talk. 43:22.000 --> 43:37.000 But I think even before those committees or in those committees meet, I think it's important for the board to have some discussion so we can have some plan on what is it that we would like to see going forward. 43:37.000 --> 43:42.000 That maybe we keep all of our buildings open, but we repurpose them in different ways. 43:42.000 --> 43:48.000 It may mean that we close up different buildings and we move programs around. 43:48.000 --> 44:01.000 There are multitude of options, but I think if we don't start having those discussions, we're not going to be able to inform the public and give us time to implement. 44:01.000 --> 44:17.000 As I mentioned in my board bulletin for the last couple of weeks, what I would love to see is I would love to see the board have a plan for its buildings that it could announce to the public in January of 27. 44:17.000 --> 44:22.000 So that we would then have eight months to implement how we're going to make those moves. 44:22.000 --> 44:33.000 So this might seem a little bit off-kilter, but our facilities do have an impact on our budget and it also has an impact on the referendum. 44:34.000 --> 44:45.000 I don't want to structure a referendum question and ask for a new roof on McNeil or on Merrill if you're going to close Merrill. 44:45.000 --> 44:48.000 That would not be very fiscally responsible. 44:48.000 --> 45:02.000 So I think once we have an idea of how we want to use our facilities and repurpose them, if they do need maintenance work, then I know that that would make sense to put in a referendum question whether we do that in November. 45:02.000 --> 45:20.000 Or whether we do that in April, but it would be foolish and the public would basically tell us how foolish a decision would be as if we decided to go to referendum to put a new roof on Merrill and then we close Merrill. 45:20.000 --> 45:23.000 People say, well, that doesn't make a lot of sense. 45:23.000 --> 45:27.000 So these things are all interconnected. 45:27.000 --> 45:41.000 One of the things that I did after our last meeting was I sent out basically a letter to the board asking how you felt on various topics so that I could construct option D which you see in front of you. 45:42.000 --> 45:49.000 I wanted to know about the, what was the feeling on the deans at the elementary school? 45:49.000 --> 45:53.000 And it was overwhelmingly that I should put deans back into the budget. 45:53.000 --> 45:58.000 So an option D, you'll see the deans are added back into the budget. 45:58.000 --> 46:02.000 We talked about, let's take my glasses off. 46:02.000 --> 46:05.000 We talked about the Secretaries. 46:05.000 --> 46:08.000 I have two Secretaries that are assigned to me. 46:08.000 --> 46:09.000 That was mixed. 46:09.000 --> 46:12.000 Basically it was three, three, and one. 46:12.000 --> 46:16.000 One said, the way you make a determination. 46:16.000 --> 46:31.000 One of the things that I was able to do since our last meeting is to meet with our legal attorneys and basically structure something in pricing and use that should bring us down to $300,000. 46:31.000 --> 46:37.000 Now that still is a lot of money, but it's a lot less than we're using right now. 46:37.000 --> 46:51.000 But one of the caveats is that they had trained one of my Secretaries to do the open records request and that is what she does virtually for the majority of the day. 46:52.000 --> 47:03.000 So if we do eliminate one and her position was eliminated, then the board would have, then we'd have to train somebody else to do that, which seems redundant. 47:03.000 --> 47:09.000 So one of the things that I am recommending is that we keep both of those positions. 47:09.000 --> 47:15.000 Michelle, obviously the board secretary and my secretary continuing. 47:15.000 --> 47:19.000 We can take a look at how we can do note taking to make things more efficient that way. 47:19.000 --> 47:23.000 But we can take a look then at the other secretarial position. 47:23.000 --> 47:35.000 As I said for majority of her day has spent open records request, but the teaching and learning have their secretary has been eliminated. 47:35.000 --> 47:48.000 So what I would recommend is that if the other secretary of position can be transferred so that there's any time that she has that she's not working on open records. 47:48.000 --> 47:54.000 She can take up some of the secretary responsibilities that have been reduced. 47:54.000 --> 47:59.000 We talked about career and technical education. 47:59.000 --> 48:05.000 It was overwhelming support that we should continue with that director position. 48:05.000 --> 48:09.000 So I have added that back into the budget in option D. 48:09.000 --> 48:16.000 We asked about the director of school of health that did not receive overwhelming support. 48:17.000 --> 48:19.000 So that has been eliminated. 48:19.000 --> 48:26.000 One of the things that we do have to talk about is do we want to make that reclassify that as a coordinator position? 48:26.000 --> 48:33.000 Because there are a list of duties that go with that position that are somehow going to have to be accomplished. 48:33.000 --> 48:38.000 And we were cutting nurses also, so it's not that we just got one position. 48:38.000 --> 48:44.000 We actually cut nursing positions and the director that work has to be assimilated somehow. 48:44.000 --> 48:53.000 One option is looking at a coordinator position, but that was eliminated from the budget because it did not have support. 48:53.000 --> 48:56.000 But I just want to remind people, the work isn't going to go away. 48:56.000 --> 49:02.000 We have to figure out how are we going to still accomplish that work with fewer bodies. 49:02.000 --> 49:05.000 We talked about the steam coordinator. 49:05.000 --> 49:11.000 Steam works with science and math. 49:12.000 --> 49:19.000 We are looking at how we can take that out of fund 10 and move that into a different funding source, 49:19.000 --> 49:24.000 which would at least save our fund 10 because that's basically what I'm looking at the budget here. 49:24.000 --> 49:30.000 I'm presenting a budget that fund 10, which means we're doing with taxpayers dollars. 49:30.000 --> 49:37.000 So we are exploring the option being able to keep that position, but to move it out of fund 10. 49:38.000 --> 49:44.000 And then I asked about the elementary alternative school and there's overwhelming support for that. 49:44.000 --> 49:46.000 That really should be almost cost neutral. 49:46.000 --> 49:54.000 We're going to use existing staff and move it around so there may be some costs, but it should be able to be absorbed. 49:54.000 --> 49:59.000 But we did hear tonight, we heard about librarians because we did reduce that. 49:59.000 --> 50:04.000 There was 1.0, we reduced it in half. 50:04.000 --> 50:13.000 If the board has a strong feeling wanting me to add that, then obviously we have to come up with more money, 50:13.000 --> 50:23.000 either that's coming up through using more OPEB funds, then that's primarily what it's going to be. 50:23.000 --> 50:35.000 So what I really would like from the board tonight is option D represents what the results of the polling that was done for the 7 board members. 50:35.000 --> 50:38.000 This is what option D represents. 50:38.000 --> 50:47.000 If there are other changes that you would like to see made in order for you to, for me to get a majority vote, 50:47.000 --> 50:50.000 I would simply like to know what those changes are. 50:50.000 --> 50:58.000 If there are something that the majority of the board says, Wayne, we want you to do X. 50:58.000 --> 51:10.000 If I know what that is, then I will work with the executive team to make sure that that is either in or eliminated from the budget when I bring it forth in next Tuesday. 51:11.000 --> 51:24.000 But if we can have those discussions tonight, so I know what additional changes need to be made, I will make the changes so I can bring that back on the 16th for approval. 51:24.000 --> 51:28.000 And like I had mentioned last week, I'm not looking for 7.0 vote. 51:28.000 --> 51:33.000 First, I don't think there's any budget I can bring you would get 7.0. 51:33.000 --> 51:38.000 But I do need to get at least 4 votes to pass a budget. 51:38.000 --> 51:48.000 So if I know what at least the majority of the board would support, I will make those changes and bring it back so that we can do that. 51:48.000 --> 51:51.000 This is just one step in a multiprocess. 51:51.000 --> 51:59.000 And as Stephanie has reminded me, it's not that I didn't know it, but it's always going to be reminded, this is a draft budget. 51:59.000 --> 52:04.000 Your formal budget doesn't get acted on until October. 52:04.000 --> 52:10.000 Well, we know what our true third Friday count is and what in all of the other particulars. 52:10.000 --> 52:17.000 But our school year starts July 1st, so we need some type of a plan to move forward on. 52:17.000 --> 52:25.000 It's not that we can't make some revisions later on, but let's face it, some revisions are much more difficult to make. 52:25.000 --> 52:38.000 If you wanted me to move people from one building to another, doing that during the school year, nothing is impossible, but it would be extremely difficult. 52:38.000 --> 52:44.000 If we cut a position you wanted hired back, that adds a level of difficulty. 52:44.000 --> 52:49.000 If you want something cut later on, it has a level of difficulty. 52:49.000 --> 52:58.000 So there is many of the things that we can plan for and put in the draft budget that can be passed the better off we are. 52:58.000 --> 53:06.000 And then what the October is, the fine tuning, as I said, once we get our third Friday count and we know what all of our true finances. 53:06.000 --> 53:17.000 So what I'm asking tonight is if there are things that you would like to see changed in this option D, please let me know. 53:17.000 --> 53:27.000 And if the majority of the board wants that change, then we will work to implement that change. 53:27.000 --> 53:29.000 Joanne, Roo? 53:29.000 --> 53:30.000 Yes, thank you. 53:30.000 --> 53:31.000 All right. 53:31.000 --> 53:33.000 So I got a couple of questions for you. 53:33.000 --> 53:35.000 So some of the things are in blue. 53:35.000 --> 53:43.000 Are those things that are added into our budget then, or new positions? 53:44.000 --> 53:47.000 All right. 53:47.000 --> 53:54.000 So we have the reduction of the executive director of TLE. 53:54.000 --> 53:59.000 We did not add in that we have an assistant superintendent. 53:59.000 --> 54:03.000 Now, why is that that we didn't add that part in? 54:03.000 --> 54:06.000 Because we already added that into this budget. 54:06.000 --> 54:11.000 So it's already in the 2526 budget when we made that change. 54:11.000 --> 54:17.000 So it doesn't have to be added again because it's already in the budget as a position and it's already. 54:17.000 --> 54:19.000 We've already budgeted for that position. 54:19.000 --> 54:20.000 Okay. 54:20.000 --> 54:21.000 Thank you. 54:21.000 --> 54:34.000 And then we, the administrative assistant for curriculum and instruction was that previously listed as the two. 54:34.000 --> 54:42.000 So because there's an admin assistant superintendent and then the admin assistant for curriculum and instruction, right? 54:42.000 --> 54:44.000 Were those the two that were listed? 54:44.000 --> 54:45.000 No. 54:45.000 --> 54:46.000 No. 54:46.000 --> 54:54.000 So there was a secretary that was designated for teaching and learning that position is now vacant. 54:54.000 --> 54:57.000 So it was cut from the budget. 54:57.000 --> 55:02.000 And I have the board and myself have two secretaries. 55:02.000 --> 55:04.000 That was on the question. 55:04.000 --> 55:18.000 What my recommendation is to take one of those and when the person has, when she's not working on open records, that she can take up some of the duties that the previous secretary for teaching and learning had. 55:18.000 --> 55:19.000 Okay. 55:20.000 --> 55:30.000 So, but at the current moment, we have a lot of open records requests that she's filling right now, correct? 55:30.000 --> 55:33.000 She does it virtually all day. 55:33.000 --> 55:36.000 That is virtually what she does. 55:36.000 --> 55:46.000 And now, unfortunately for us, is that since she's been trained and she's been doing it now for a while. 55:46.000 --> 55:50.000 She has, she doesn't realize much on the attorneys. 55:50.000 --> 55:52.000 So a lot of the answers she has. 55:52.000 --> 56:00.000 So initially, when she had that, there was a lot of attorney involvement, which meant we were paying the attorney fees. 56:00.000 --> 56:12.000 Now that she's been trained and has been doing it for a while, she can do a lot of it with, she still has to check with attorneys on some, but it is a lot less. 56:12.000 --> 56:13.000 Okay. 56:14.000 --> 56:19.000 And then something else, so I see a lot of blue, blue, blue. 56:19.000 --> 56:25.000 And then down at the bottom, there's a reclassification, but that one does isn't blue. 56:25.000 --> 56:32.000 Is there a reason why that one's not blue then, since it's additional funding necessary? 56:32.000 --> 56:35.000 Can you tell me which one you're looking at? 56:35.000 --> 56:37.000 I'm sorry. 56:37.000 --> 56:39.000 I'm still in Keck. 56:39.000 --> 56:50.000 So it says reclassify HR benefits coordinator to manager, and it's an additional $17,000. 56:50.000 --> 56:56.000 Because that was an additional person that we hired in the HR department. 56:56.000 --> 57:02.000 So we've, we had hired that individual. 57:02.000 --> 57:05.000 We recently hired an individual on HR. 57:05.000 --> 57:07.000 So that's. 57:07.000 --> 57:10.000 So if I, if I may. 57:10.000 --> 57:12.000 I'm going to give this to Stephanie. 57:12.000 --> 57:17.000 Okay. 57:17.000 --> 57:30.000 I believe the request is to take a current position that we have in HR and reclassify it to a higher level, because with the person that we have doing that position is doing more supervisory work. 57:30.000 --> 57:33.000 That's my understanding as well. 57:33.000 --> 57:40.000 And we eliminated the director position out of HR last fall. 57:40.000 --> 57:59.000 So it's, yeah, it's ultimately a cost savings to have that person pick up more of the managerial responsibilities rather than backfilling in a director position. 57:59.000 --> 58:04.000 Okay. So then my other question is. 58:04.000 --> 58:11.000 So James did a nice job of speaking to what teachers are concerned about. 58:11.000 --> 58:15.000 I appreciate him talking about like changing facilities right now. 58:15.000 --> 58:22.000 It seems like a big ask of any staff members to do. 58:22.000 --> 58:29.000 I understand their apprehension and anxiety over all of these decisions that are being made. 58:29.000 --> 58:47.000 He did ask specifically about prep time for elementary education teachers since if, if, which for me personally, my library and para when I was at Roy's elementary was my favorite teacher every year. 58:47.000 --> 58:57.000 So if we did cut all of those positions to halftime, how would we cover the prep time for the elementary education. 58:57.000 --> 59:01.000 And elementary educators. 59:01.000 --> 59:10.000 I mean, what's going to happen is that the principal is going to look at the schedule and find out how they're going to parcel and move people around. 59:10.000 --> 59:13.000 So will people still get their prep time? 59:13.000 --> 59:21.000 I mean, we will figure out some way that that's going to happen because we're, and we are obligated to provide them. 59:21.000 --> 59:31.000 I'm not going to exactly tell you how that's going to work because I don't know that I have the answer that because it might be look a little different in every building. 59:31.000 --> 59:45.000 Yeah, I still don't understand how we can do that because, yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that, that is resolved and I'm interested in looking at that. 59:45.000 --> 59:53.000 And just a reminder, there are no cuts that we made that are not going to have a negative impact. 59:53.000 --> 01:00:05.000 I mean that, I mean, in what I like to return the positions that we cut back, the answer is yes, I would certainly do that. 01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:13.000 When I go into the various libraries, do I see the people working with the kids and the kids, the bottom line is yes. 01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:28.000 The answer is is that we're trying to look at, you know, especially where we have, where we can move staff members around and not fill some vacant positions to try to fill up the budget hall. 01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:29.000 That's what we're trying. 01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:35.000 We're not saying that we can provide all the things next year we provided this year when we have less staff. 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:43.000 That's just not possible, but we all know that we do have to make cuts. 01:00:43.000 --> 01:00:49.000 So we can't have everything we had before. 01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:50.000 I understand that. 01:00:50.000 --> 01:00:57.000 I also understand that our elementary educators get a certain amount of prep time each day. 01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:03.000 And some of our buildings are almost at capacity or at capacity. 01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:11.000 We have, so it doesn't matter, like you only have so many hours in a day. 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:21.000 And so these pair of educators in our library are taking an entire class of students so that their teacher gets their prep time. 01:01:22.000 --> 01:01:31.000 And if we take them away half time, then we're going to create another problem that then we have to solve. 01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:43.000 And we already have teachers filling out blue sheets because there isn't someone available to sub for a special or things like that happening. 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:51.000 And so this is another thing that just, in wanting to keep as many of our educators as possible, 01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:56.000 I'm just bringing this up as something that I think is going to cause more problems down the road. 01:01:56.000 --> 01:02:01.000 And that's part of the purpose of tonight's meeting. 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:15.000 If four board members tell me when we need to go back, then I will make the adjustments to make those 1.0 rather than 0.5. 01:02:15.000 --> 01:02:22.000 But that also means either I have to find somewhere else to cut which has to be in personnel, 01:02:22.000 --> 01:02:27.000 which is going to just create something somewhere else, or you're going to have to tell me, 01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:34.000 will let you use additional OPEB funds, which means more use this year, the less you have in the future. 01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:39.000 But that's what this is for because if that is something the majority of the board wants, 01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.000 then that is a change that I will make. 01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:47.000 Like you said, what I'm looking for tonight is if I need to make changes to this, 01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:53.000 I simply need to know what changes the majority of the board would like me to make 01:02:53.000 --> 01:03:01.000 and bring back something that fulfills those requests at the next regular board meeting. 01:03:01.000 --> 01:03:04.000 Yeah, I understand. Thank you. 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:12.000 And my last question is just so some people have found out about moving to other buildings next year. 01:03:12.000 --> 01:03:19.000 And so there are people that are saying that we've already moved forward with moving buildings or closing buildings. 01:03:19.000 --> 01:03:21.000 That's not true, correct? 01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:31.000 No, the only the only programs that the only program that I know that is moving buildings for next year 01:03:31.000 --> 01:03:34.000 is I think what is it early childhood? 01:03:34.000 --> 01:03:41.000 Early childhood special ed, there's two classrooms and they're going to be moved to Merrill because Merrill had the space. 01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:46.000 That's what I wanted to make sure that I figured that was the reason, but yes, thank you. Perfect. 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:52.000 But that's the only one at this point that is moving. 01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:58.000 Okay, thank you. Dan Schuf. Thank you, Madam Chair. 01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:03.000 So Wayne, you talked about the big picture at the start of your comments. 01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:11.000 I came here tonight prepared to vote and move forward with the recommendations that the administration is putting forward. 01:04:11.000 --> 01:04:16.000 So I want to say that I'm ready to go tonight if we want to. 01:04:16.000 --> 01:04:26.000 The reason these next 60 days, June and July are maybe the most consequential for the next decade for the district. 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:31.000 We have this opportunity that you pointed out to us, or this room before I was part of this group, 01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:38.000 way back when you talked about the tale of two budgets, way back in February, whatever it was. 01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:48.000 We have this opportunity where we could be asking the question what kind of district do we want here in Beloit 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:57.000 after all my colleagues here who've been here longer than me have really made the reforms, changed the leadership and done these things. 01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:02.000 But we have this chance here this summer to have our community be engaged in this. 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:12.000 I think the concept of which building closing coming first before we ask the question what kind of district do we want and what would that cost? 01:05:12.000 --> 01:05:25.000 My vision is have six award-winning elementary schools and two award-winning middle schools and the best high school in the state and a BLA that's doing great things. 01:05:25.000 --> 01:05:30.000 I don't know what that cost. I've been asking what will that cost? What will that cost? 01:05:30.000 --> 01:05:37.000 I haven't heard that. I'm ready for this process. We talked about meetings at every building. 01:05:37.000 --> 01:05:43.000 As that happened, we talked about other things. We talked about multiple committees. 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:47.000 I thought those committees were going to be talking about what kind of school district do we want? 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:58.000 It sounds like we're kind of putting the cart before the horse talking about shuffling buildings and selling buildings before we find out if to give my colleagues credit. 01:05:58.000 --> 01:06:02.000 You guys have done the hard work. You're at this table. People in this building have done the work. 01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:07.000 The building, people in the buildings, teachers and principals and everyone have done the hard work. 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:22.000 And because the fiscal cliff that Wayne has described it hasn't hit us yet, we have this opportunity now to craft a vision of what we want in a district. 01:06:22.000 --> 01:06:34.000 Now we will not have this ability two years from now. We will not have this ability to craft this after the cliff hits us or we fall off the cliff or whatever metaphor you want to follow here. 01:06:34.000 --> 01:06:41.000 I'm anxious to, the meeting isn't next week. It's in two weeks. It's not until the 16th. 01:06:41.000 --> 01:06:50.000 Now we'll have six weeks left before August 1st. We really got to be done with our work by August 1st to pass something by August 20th. 01:06:50.000 --> 01:06:59.000 So, you know, I think the people to the right of me, all of these, this group deserve the credit for doing this work. 01:06:59.000 --> 01:07:11.000 And we may now need to be crafting a district that stabilizes than grow. When I get quoted in various places, they skip the stabilized part. 01:07:11.000 --> 01:07:18.000 But I'm not saying just add more staff. I'm saying give us a district that we want and is award winning. 01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:31.000 So, again, I don't have a question for you. You can comment as much as you want on that. I'm ready to vote tonight so we can move on to these next 60 days of conversations about the kind of district that we want. Thank you. 01:07:31.000 --> 01:07:35.000 Carol Fox. 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:49.000 Okay. Well, I'm not ready to vote tonight. And I have a lot of concerns about some of the things that are on here and aren't that are not on here. 01:07:49.000 --> 01:08:01.000 We've been in a fiscal cliff for the last three, four years. It's not, we've been on this big down slide and we're going to hit a bigger cliff at the end. 01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:14.000 So, we've been doing this a lot and we really have to come to grips with the fact that we're not going to be a district with six elementary schools. 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:19.000 We're just not. We're just not going to have the number of buildings that we have now. 01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:28.000 And I truly believe that we need to start doing something about that sooner than later. 01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:37.000 We have one, two, three, four. We have five buildings that are very under capacity in terms of how we're using them. 01:08:37.000 --> 01:08:44.000 And I see no reason why we shouldn't do something to fix that in some way. 01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:50.000 And my recommendation is that we take BLA and we put them at the high school. 01:08:50.000 --> 01:08:58.000 If you can't do that, then maybe you put them upstairs at Merrill. But we need to move BLA to another one of our underutilized buildings. 01:08:58.000 --> 01:09:05.000 And we need to do something different with Cunningham. That Cunningham is going to need a roof, million dollars there. 01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:13.000 We can move, even start goes to Merrill, but somehow we need to be using our less of our facilities. 01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:17.000 And not just because of the facilities, because we're duplicating services. 01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:25.000 And we need to not be doing that. And we talk about all these things we want to add back in. 01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:29.000 Well, you're right. We need to cut more if we want to add some of those things back in. 01:09:29.000 --> 01:09:38.000 And I'm not prepared to use that amount of money, of open money. I'm prepared to use some, but not that much. 01:09:38.000 --> 01:09:49.000 And we need to save money for some other kinds of things, like needing to add in some of the classroom teachers that we've done some cutting with. 01:09:49.000 --> 01:09:58.000 I'm particularly concerned about the middle schools. Some of those grades, if those numbers hold, are going to go up to 32, 33. 01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:05.000 We need to maybe have a teacher to cover that. So we need to do some of those things. 01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:13.000 I'm also concerned that 27 of the positions on here are grant positions. 01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:22.000 And we have not seen any program plan or any plan about how we are really planning to use the grant money to do these things. 01:10:22.000 --> 01:10:28.000 And I look at some of this stuff, and I too am concerned about the media specialists. 01:10:28.000 --> 01:10:34.000 But we have in the grant that we're going to add early literacy paraprofessionals. 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:42.000 Okay, why are we cutting our media people in half and adding early literacy paraprofessionals? 01:10:42.000 --> 01:10:45.000 And we don't have a clue what these people are supposed to do. 01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:51.000 So not seen a job description, not seen anything about what's going on with that. 01:10:51.000 --> 01:11:00.000 And if we think we can do that or think we want to do that, maybe we put the early literacy paraprofessionals and combine them with the media specialists. 01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:08.000 Can we do something like that? I mean, we need to reducing the family advocates to a .3. 01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:13.000 I don't understand how they're going to be used or what purpose that serves. 01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:21.000 And how is any of this, especially with the grant money, moving the steam coordinated AGR. 01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:27.000 AGR is K3. How is that going to work? 01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:33.000 So we need the plans that go along with some of this as well as some of these other things. 01:11:33.000 --> 01:11:38.000 And it's a great start, but it's not enough. 01:11:38.000 --> 01:11:42.000 And some of these things people do want to fix. 01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:47.000 You know, I'm one that we tend to argue a little bit about deans. 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:50.000 I'm not saying they're not needed. 01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:53.000 I'm saying we put a cap on it. We have a hard time getting them. 01:11:53.000 --> 01:11:57.000 We were only able to get three out of the six to begin with. 01:11:57.000 --> 01:12:01.000 So is there, what's the purpose? 01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:05.000 And we had to leave the cap on or we might as well just get assistant principals. 01:12:05.000 --> 01:12:08.000 And then we're adding more cost. 01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:13.000 We need more information and we mean more cuts. 01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:20.000 And I fully recommend that we close one of those buildings and do some combining. 01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:22.000 Because we need to do some of that. 01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:26.000 And if we do some of that, then we can maybe add some of these things back in. 01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:32.000 And come up with your health coordinator and your full-time media specialist. 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:36.000 And you know some of these other positions that you're talking about. 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:41.000 But, you know, it's a good start. It's not enough. 01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:46.000 Well, I will tell you that we did tour Memorial today. 01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:51.000 So to see if it would be feasible to put PLA in there for next year. 01:12:51.000 --> 01:12:56.000 And the truthful statement is, I don't know how we do it. 01:12:56.000 --> 01:13:03.000 To make, I don't know how we would, we looked at where we could be a secure entrance to put people in, 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:05.000 how we could keep them separated. 01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:17.000 And the bottom line, without having architects come in and tell us what we're going to do in the money to do what I'll call interior. 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:22.000 We could not find what I will call a cost effective way to do that. 01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:30.000 But for me to say that, I mean one of the things that I learned under this is that for me just to tell you that doesn't make as much impact 01:13:30.000 --> 01:13:39.000 is that if that truly is what the board would like to do, then I truly think we need to walk through the high school as a board. 01:13:39.000 --> 01:13:42.000 So you can see the same things that I see. 01:13:42.000 --> 01:13:47.000 So there's an idea that you have that none of us could think of. 01:13:47.000 --> 01:13:49.000 I'd be more than happy to do it. 01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:57.000 But we did, because just because a room, a building has capacity and it says it can hold X. 01:13:57.000 --> 01:14:04.000 But trying to move a program into that and keep them separate, that's more than just adding numbers together. 01:14:04.000 --> 01:14:15.000 And like I said, we went through and there was no way the group of us could figure out how we could do that if the board decided to be real honest. 01:14:16.000 --> 01:14:22.000 I don't know if the board says, Wayne, you're going to move BLA into the high school next year. 01:14:22.000 --> 01:14:31.000 The bottom line is if we do it, they're not going to be too separate institutions because there's no way to keep it separate. 01:14:31.000 --> 01:14:36.000 At this point without putting in additional dollars into the building to make that. 01:14:36.000 --> 01:14:41.000 And I don't think anybody here wants to put additional dollars into the building to do that. 01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:48.000 So mine is that for some of these, when we say we should move a program from one building to another, 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:57.000 we should probably as the board go through and look at that building and determine is that a realistic asset could be done. 01:14:57.000 --> 01:15:02.000 What I've said is I truly believe whatever it is we want to do with our buildings. 01:15:02.000 --> 01:15:10.000 If we want to keep them all open and make changes, we need to have those discussions and we need to make that decision well in advance. 01:15:10.000 --> 01:15:16.000 So that we have plenty of time to determine how things can be implemented. 01:15:16.000 --> 01:15:20.000 Trying to move somebody at this point, we're in June. 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:26.000 You're going to pass the budget, at least my hope is, in the middle of June. 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:30.000 To have things, the program's moved is more than moving boxes. 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:34.000 I just don't see that as something that is realistic. 01:15:35.000 --> 01:15:40.000 Not that I don't see that we're going to have to move a lot of buildings for 27-28, 01:15:40.000 --> 01:15:51.000 but then I expect that we're going to have eight months to plan how that move is going to impact people and impact, 01:15:51.000 --> 01:15:55.000 and if it's that we can grow it to keep it, fine. 01:15:55.000 --> 01:15:59.000 Then what are they going to look like inside? 01:16:00.000 --> 01:16:03.000 I'm not opposed to looking at the restructuring. 01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:10.000 I'm just telling you that we went over, and just because capacity says it can hold those numbers, 01:16:10.000 --> 01:16:16.000 doesn't mean we can make those two programs work the way the building currently sits. 01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:22.000 Tom Hankins? 01:16:24.000 --> 01:16:26.000 Thank you, Board President. 01:16:27.000 --> 01:16:31.000 Many, many little notes I have. 01:16:31.000 --> 01:16:38.000 I'll just start out the first one with the librarians, and I know the young lady is in the back. 01:16:38.000 --> 01:16:42.000 Is there a way to self-check out books anymore? 01:16:42.000 --> 01:16:47.000 I don't know if that's feasible, and I'll just leave that where it is because I don't know. 01:16:47.000 --> 01:16:49.000 I know they're all coded. 01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.000 They used to be when I was a kid. 01:16:51.000 --> 01:17:00.000 Anyways, Wayne, how many open meetings requests are there in a regular day week? 01:17:00.000 --> 01:17:01.000 Open records. 01:17:01.000 --> 01:17:03.000 Excuse me, open records. 01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:09.000 They come across since I get to see all of them because they pop online. 01:17:09.000 --> 01:17:15.000 I would say we average three to four a day. 01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:16.000 Okay. 01:17:16.000 --> 01:17:20.000 And that involves, I mean, I am really naive. 01:17:21.000 --> 01:17:27.000 It depends on the various requests, and we have some that are expansive, so the first 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:32.000 thing we have to do is determine how long is it going to take us to fill this request if 01:17:32.000 --> 01:17:36.000 it's going to take well over two hours. 01:17:36.000 --> 01:17:37.000 Okay. 01:17:37.000 --> 01:17:42.000 Then we have to figure out we have to send the person back an estimated cost so they know 01:17:42.000 --> 01:17:49.000 that if we fulfill this, then depending, I mean a lot of costs go to Stephanie because 01:17:49.000 --> 01:17:53.000 they want to know, well, I'll link one up. 01:17:53.000 --> 01:17:59.000 We want to see all the purchase orders for these companies for the last 10 years. 01:17:59.000 --> 01:18:00.000 Okay. 01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:02.000 I don't want to. 01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:09.000 We have in this district and your other districts, are we above normal? 01:18:09.000 --> 01:18:18.000 You have more, you have more open records requests in one week than I had adding all of mine 01:18:18.000 --> 01:18:22.000 up in all of my other districts in total. 01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:23.000 Wow. 01:18:23.000 --> 01:18:29.000 You are, I don't know if there's any district that I have heard of that compares with the 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:31.000 number of open records requests. 01:18:31.000 --> 01:18:32.000 Literally. 01:18:32.000 --> 01:18:33.000 Right. 01:18:33.000 --> 01:18:35.000 You have three or four a day. 01:18:35.000 --> 01:18:42.000 And I would say a normal district might have 20 or less a year. 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:48.000 And some of you asked for an open records request. 01:18:48.000 --> 01:18:50.000 It cost them no money, right? 01:18:50.000 --> 01:18:51.000 Nope. 01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:52.000 They just submit something. 01:18:52.000 --> 01:18:53.000 Yep. 01:18:53.000 --> 01:18:54.000 Okay. 01:18:54.000 --> 01:18:56.000 Thank you. 01:18:56.000 --> 01:19:01.000 You touched on legal in house and you touched on and you and I have had conversation with 01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:08.000 or not in house or not in house, but you know, you live or reduction of 100,000 and you 01:19:08.000 --> 01:19:16.000 have a conversation that they asked or they said they could trim money, money, money. 01:19:16.000 --> 01:19:22.000 And my thought to you was back, well, where was that for the last three years? 01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:24.000 Well, they know we're in dire straits. 01:19:24.000 --> 01:19:29.000 But anyways, I still would like to, as a board member, one board member, like to still pursue 01:19:29.000 --> 01:19:34.000 looking, bringing legal in house and hiring someone. 01:19:34.000 --> 01:19:36.000 I think there's cost savings there. 01:19:36.000 --> 01:19:41.000 I know we have to have somebody else on retainer for special cases and things like that. 01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:44.000 But I don't want to put it aside and say, okay, fine. 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:49.000 We'll just keep moving forward. 01:19:49.000 --> 01:19:56.000 And that is at least one thing that we could, I mean, that's not so much on time constraint 01:19:56.000 --> 01:20:03.000 as much as the rest because let's say we're going, let's say that, you know, because we 01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:08.000 track these expenses, especially legal every month, depending on what it is, we'll know 01:20:08.000 --> 01:20:12.000 whether or not we are saying within that threshold or whether it looks like we're going to be. 01:20:12.000 --> 01:20:17.000 And if we think that we're not going to be able to maintain the threshold, we could go out 01:20:17.000 --> 01:20:24.000 and, you know, in post for a position and look at hiring and interviewing like we do for any other 01:20:24.000 --> 01:20:26.000 position at any time throughout the year. 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:31.000 You know as well as I do, how much we're spending on legal in this district every year. 01:20:31.000 --> 01:20:33.000 Be that it isn't me. 01:20:33.000 --> 01:20:38.000 I also suggest to you to bring in a hiring a grant writer. 01:20:38.000 --> 01:20:45.000 I thought, I know everybody's, I thought that there was one person but in conversation with you 01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:50.000 and other people that, you know, if Missy has somebody she wants, you know, she does it or whatever. 01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:57.000 And I asked you about this and you said we, you know, ballpark 70, 75,000 with your colleagues 01:20:57.000 --> 01:20:58.000 you've talked about. 01:20:58.000 --> 01:21:05.000 To me, that money is money well spent to bring in a in-house grant writer for these, all these things 01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:08.000 that are out there that maybe we're not going at. 01:21:08.000 --> 01:21:10.000 And you're correct. 01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:17.000 Is that one of the things when you and I talked, is that there was different schools in our conference 01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:20.000 listed various positions that they had and what they were paying them. 01:21:20.000 --> 01:21:26.000 And there were several school districts in our conference that do employ a grant writer 01:21:26.000 --> 01:21:31.000 and the average salary fringe was around 70 to 80,000. 01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:38.000 Well, I just as one board member would like you to investigate that and, you know, I know it's another cost. 01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:43.000 But I think that that would be well worth their salary. 01:21:43.000 --> 01:21:50.000 Getting back to BLA, if my memory serves me right, they were at right before. 01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.000 That is correct. 01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:54.000 And right was set up for them. 01:21:54.000 --> 01:21:56.000 And I know it was, it was, it's a great at school. 01:21:56.000 --> 01:22:05.000 They were small this, small that, you know, we have, well, supposedly shuttered right, but not really 01:22:05.000 --> 01:22:07.000 because Hess is in there. 01:22:07.000 --> 01:22:12.000 Another option might be to move BLA to right back into right. 01:22:12.000 --> 01:22:14.000 And that's just, I'm throwing it out there. 01:22:14.000 --> 01:22:15.000 Yep. 01:22:15.000 --> 01:22:19.000 And to be real honest, it may be, there's people here that understand reason. 01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:23.000 I don't know why they were moved from right to Cunningham. 01:22:23.000 --> 01:22:28.000 Maybe, maybe that's who does. 01:22:28.000 --> 01:22:29.000 I don't. 01:22:29.000 --> 01:22:31.000 I was looking to see if she's there. 01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:33.000 I mean, that was a decision that was made. 01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:37.000 My assumption is that there were some reason behind it. 01:22:37.000 --> 01:22:38.000 Correct. 01:22:38.000 --> 01:22:40.000 Because we're going to, we're going to, we put it up for sale. 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:43.000 So they moved them out, which makes sense. 01:22:43.000 --> 01:22:46.000 But we haven't really shuttered the building because Hess is in there. 01:22:46.000 --> 01:22:49.000 And we're still paying heat and electricity and all this other stuff. 01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:58.000 So if, if you're telling us that it's not a viable option to put back in the high school, 01:22:58.000 --> 01:23:03.000 let's just look, explore putting it back at, at right. 01:23:03.000 --> 01:23:04.000 That's, thank you. 01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:05.000 I'm done. 01:23:05.000 --> 01:23:08.000 Thank you. 01:23:08.000 --> 01:23:10.000 Megan Miller. 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:11.000 Thank you. 01:23:11.000 --> 01:23:13.000 Thank you so much for option D. 01:23:13.000 --> 01:23:17.000 And for the time that you and everybody put into it, it's, I think, a really good reflection 01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:19.000 that's helped move us all forward. 01:23:19.000 --> 01:23:21.000 And thanks to my colleagues for their comments so far. 01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:25.000 So, um, I like several other folks who have spoken. 01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:29.000 I do have a couple of specific staffing questions, but I'll just, overall. 01:23:29.000 --> 01:23:34.000 Um, I really appreciate where, like, I'll just Carol specifically, 01:23:34.000 --> 01:23:35.000 like where you're coming from. 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:39.000 Like we need to do things sooner rather than later. 01:23:40.000 --> 01:23:46.000 I want to present an alternative perspective that's centered like yours is in, like, how 01:23:46.000 --> 01:23:49.000 do we preserve the best possible student experiences? 01:23:49.000 --> 01:23:56.000 Because we do seriously need to manage our budget and our budget is in service of providing 01:23:56.000 --> 01:24:00.000 the optimal student experience that we can, right, to kids in our community. 01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:07.000 And as, as a person who is working in schools, I would say that I appreciate where Dr. Anderson 01:24:07.000 --> 01:24:15.000 is coming from about waiting to do, to clarify what could facilities look like based on a 01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:20.000 facilities assessment, based on a needs assessment of the enrollment and programming needs of 01:24:20.000 --> 01:24:24.000 the current students that we will have in our district and taking that time to be very 01:24:24.000 --> 01:24:29.000 planful because A, that helps us make a better informed decision. 01:24:29.000 --> 01:24:32.000 Um, I just, I don't believe that good decisions are made in urgency. 01:24:32.000 --> 01:24:39.000 And two, it also allows for some transition time so that teachers can, um, you know, teachers, 01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:44.000 teams of teachers, parents, administrators, uh, can take this year to be thoughtful and 01:24:44.000 --> 01:24:47.000 plan and prepare and also help our families transition. 01:24:47.000 --> 01:24:50.000 So I just like overarching themes, I suppose. 01:24:50.000 --> 01:24:56.000 Um, I'm in favor of going slow to go fast and centering things on like what will the lived 01:24:56.000 --> 01:25:00.000 experiences be for our students and the quality of education before our students. 01:25:00.000 --> 01:25:02.000 Um, and of course the quality of the year for staff as well. 01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:04.000 So that's kind of like my main point of feedback. 01:25:04.000 --> 01:25:10.000 Um, for me, a couple of non-negotiables, um, if you're looking for consensus, I was very 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:16.000 intrigued by, I think it was Carol's suggestion about maybe rethinking how we could provide 01:25:16.000 --> 01:25:22.000 early literacy services by preserving the full, um, FTE allotments or allocation, I should 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:23.000 say, for the library positions. 01:25:23.000 --> 01:25:28.000 I think when we look at, we haven't really talked about behavior and discipline so much 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:31.000 this evening, but that is a huge need in our district. 01:25:31.000 --> 01:25:37.000 And the more caring trained adults we have in buildings, the better for our kids. 01:25:37.000 --> 01:25:43.000 So even if it isn't their specific like job to be dealing with like behaviors or, or 01:25:43.000 --> 01:25:50.000 managing, um, anything relationship building that comes from, from having like a friendly, 01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:57.000 safe person at the library is, is you can't put in, you can't put like a number of value 01:25:57.000 --> 01:25:58.000 on that. 01:25:58.000 --> 01:26:04.000 And again, as somebody who is currently working in schools, a lot of kids find safe places 01:26:04.000 --> 01:26:10.000 and some, the ability to regulate by being able to have those safe people that aren't always 01:26:10.000 --> 01:26:11.000 classroom teachers. 01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:16.000 So I am not in favor of cutting, uh, the library specialist down to the point five. 01:26:16.000 --> 01:26:21.000 I do think that we've heard some creative ideas about maybe some ways to repurpose some 01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:23.000 roles, um, because you're right. 01:26:23.000 --> 01:26:26.000 Like we're not going to get to a best case scenario that doesn't come at a cost. 01:26:26.000 --> 01:26:27.000 And I hear that. 01:26:27.000 --> 01:26:32.000 I, for me, I think the more building folks we can have in buildings consistently for kids 01:26:32.000 --> 01:26:33.000 the better. 01:26:33.000 --> 01:26:34.000 So that's one thing. 01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:41.000 Another thing would be, um, on that itemized list that you provided, my gut instinct is 01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:45.000 to say that I'm against making cuts or reductions to the arts and music positions. 01:26:45.000 --> 01:26:49.000 I think specifically they were at the high school, but I also, to Carol's point, I would 01:26:49.000 --> 01:26:51.000 love to see like a plan for that. 01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:55.000 And like what's the plan to accommodate like those classes and services. 01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:58.000 So if there is a plan in place for that, like cool. 01:26:58.000 --> 01:27:02.000 But if not, like I'm not interested in cutting arts and music for similar reasons. 01:27:02.000 --> 01:27:06.000 Um, there's definitely academic positions that we need to prioritize, but there's a lot 01:27:06.000 --> 01:27:11.000 of data out there that should and just lived experience common sense that shows that, uh, 01:27:11.000 --> 01:27:17.000 kids who can stay engaged in school who aren't necessarily like you're super like core academic 01:27:17.000 --> 01:27:22.000 students, they find that engagement and higher attendance rates and success because of what 01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:24.000 the arts and music does for them. 01:27:24.000 --> 01:27:27.000 Like there's bodies and bodies of research behind that and that just seems like an easy 01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:28.000 win. 01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:30.000 So if there's a plan for that, amazing. 01:27:30.000 --> 01:27:32.000 If not, I would say let's try to keep those. 01:27:32.000 --> 01:27:35.000 Can I can actually give an answer in that right away? 01:27:35.000 --> 01:27:36.000 Yes. 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:42.000 In that those were cut because the enrollments in those classes were extremely low and you 01:27:42.000 --> 01:27:46.000 have enrollment numbers that say that a few classes that are 15 or less. 01:27:46.000 --> 01:27:53.000 So when we looked at the various ones of what could be trimmed, those were classes that had 01:27:53.000 --> 01:27:56.000 very low enrollment, that's the reason they were made. 01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:57.000 And I totally appreciate that. 01:27:57.000 --> 01:28:01.000 I will say that when I taught at the high school, I taught AP European history and I absolutely 01:28:01.000 --> 01:28:06.000 had to, I ran a class of 12 students because there's certain times where people make decisions 01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:09.000 like, yeah, we should follow the policy. 01:28:09.000 --> 01:28:13.000 But, and so I would just say like that's something I would love a little bit more. 01:28:13.000 --> 01:28:15.000 Press star six to unmute. 01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:18.000 If there's some wiggles on that, that would be cool. 01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:23.000 And I know Miss Carpenter has sent in some thoughts on that as well. 01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:28.000 But just in the spirit of sharing where we are, that's where I'm at on that. 01:28:28.000 --> 01:28:32.000 The school health plan piece, I'd like to hear a little more information on, again, with 01:28:32.000 --> 01:28:34.000 needs assessments. 01:28:34.000 --> 01:28:39.000 To get a little personal, it is the anniversary of my best friend from high school's death. 01:28:39.000 --> 01:28:42.000 She died of an asthma attack at the age of 15. 01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:47.000 And I literally just like a month ago, almost to the day, just received a really comprehensive 01:28:47.000 --> 01:28:53.000 school district nurse that included what are the protocols and emergencies for kids who 01:28:53.000 --> 01:28:54.000 are having an asthma attack. 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:56.000 There's some recent legislation around that. 01:28:56.000 --> 01:29:00.000 And I have no doubt that our district is well on top of that because we have a health staff 01:29:00.000 --> 01:29:03.000 that's really committed and fastidious about that. 01:29:03.000 --> 01:29:07.000 So I share a lot of concern around that. 01:29:07.000 --> 01:29:09.000 But I also believe that a lot of thought has been put into this plan. 01:29:09.000 --> 01:29:13.000 So you've already said that there's going to be future discussions about how to meet those 01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:14.000 needs. 01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:18.000 And I really, really appreciate that you shared that, yeah, we still have to meet the needs 01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:19.000 that are there. 01:29:19.000 --> 01:29:24.000 I would love to add that, prior to or at that 16th meeting, like hear a lot more detail 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:26.000 about how we're handling that. 01:29:26.000 --> 01:29:28.000 So I just want to be clear. 01:29:28.000 --> 01:29:33.000 When we cut positions, here are guards where we cut them. 01:29:33.000 --> 01:29:38.000 We are not going to be able to absorb and provide the same service we did. 01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:43.000 So like for nursing and the director, there is no plan that I can give you that says that 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:49.000 we are going to be able to provide the same level of service this upcoming year that we 01:29:49.000 --> 01:29:51.000 did this past year. 01:29:51.000 --> 01:29:53.000 It's not feasible to do. 01:29:53.000 --> 01:29:58.000 So what it will be is there will be certain things that will have to prioritize that these 01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:01.000 are the primary things that the role has to be done. 01:30:01.000 --> 01:30:06.000 These are things that we were doing that we now have to put aside or we maybe have to put 01:30:06.000 --> 01:30:13.000 into, you know, some things are not going to get done, some things other people are 01:30:13.000 --> 01:30:14.000 going to have to do. 01:30:14.000 --> 01:30:22.000 I don't want anybody here to think that we're going to cut positions anywhere and still 01:30:22.000 --> 01:30:23.000 provide the same service. 01:30:23.000 --> 01:30:25.000 That is a fallacy. 01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:27.000 That is not going to happen. 01:30:27.000 --> 01:30:31.000 We can still provide services, but they're not going to be at the same level. 01:30:32.000 --> 01:30:38.000 And I don't want anybody confused thinking that we can cut irregardless and provide the 01:30:38.000 --> 01:30:41.000 same service because I don't believe that to be true. 01:30:41.000 --> 01:30:42.000 No, and I appreciate that. 01:30:42.000 --> 01:30:46.000 And just, you know, as a parent of my youngest child has asthma. 01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:48.000 And that's certainly not the only thing. 01:30:48.000 --> 01:30:50.000 But I think we heard in public comment a couple of weeks ago too. 01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:52.000 And it's not really news to anybody. 01:30:52.000 --> 01:30:57.000 Rock County and particularly Beloit, we have some of like the worst air quality levels. 01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:02.000 I just got a notice in the mail a couple weeks months ago from the city about, hey, 01:31:02.000 --> 01:31:05.000 check, make sure your pipes are made out of lead because that's your homeowner's 01:31:05.000 --> 01:31:06.000 responsibility. 01:31:06.000 --> 01:31:09.000 I mean, we have issues here that disproportionately impact us in Beloit. 01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:12.000 Maybe in ways that other districts aren't impacted. 01:31:12.000 --> 01:31:18.000 And so I just, I would just urge us as a decision-making body as much as is possible to prioritize 01:31:18.000 --> 01:31:21.000 like the immediate health and well-being of our students, right? 01:31:21.000 --> 01:31:25.000 And that's not to get down to the dollar value of that. 01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:27.000 But I mean, that's, that's a huge enrollment issue. 01:31:27.000 --> 01:31:29.000 Like parents need to feel safe sending their kids to school. 01:31:29.000 --> 01:31:34.000 And I want to make sure that as we are communicating out, here's, here are the cuts and changes 01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:35.000 we're making. 01:31:35.000 --> 01:31:38.000 Here's how we are maintaining prioritizing student health and well-being. 01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:41.000 Because I know that it is everybody's intention here to do so. 01:31:41.000 --> 01:31:42.000 So I hear what you're saying. 01:31:42.000 --> 01:31:47.000 And if it's a matter of like, you know, here's how we've tiered our support like response 01:31:47.000 --> 01:31:51.000 services to prioritize making sure we have like adequate health staff, like these places 01:31:51.000 --> 01:31:53.000 at these times to hit like these needs. 01:31:53.000 --> 01:31:57.000 But here's where some other things are going to give that's like maybe like the Band-Aids 01:31:57.000 --> 01:31:58.000 didn't get refilled right away. 01:31:58.000 --> 01:31:59.000 I mean, like, you know what I'm saying? 01:31:59.000 --> 01:32:02.000 Like, I think that's a level, I don't want to get too into the weeds. 01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:08.000 But I do think like when people hear we're cutting nurses and we have so many health problems 01:32:08.000 --> 01:32:13.000 that require so much attention, I think that has, there has to be a little bit specific 01:32:13.000 --> 01:32:18.000 detail in terms of like the strategy that we're using to make sure that our kids are safe at school. 01:32:19.000 --> 01:32:20.000 So that's, that's in feedback. 01:32:20.000 --> 01:32:24.000 And again, 100% we're not getting out of this like unharmed. 01:32:24.000 --> 01:32:25.000 I get that. 01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:28.000 And I, and I think you've done a really good job communicating that. 01:32:28.000 --> 01:32:29.000 So thank you. 01:32:29.000 --> 01:32:30.000 Just needed to bring that up. 01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:40.000 And then lastly, as I'm thinking about Mr. Shoe's comments, like my brain makes a t-chart. 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:45.000 And I think about what are the cuts that we are making that we should make because we 01:32:45.000 --> 01:32:51.000 are reshaping our district to thrive in a new normal with like different enrollment numbers. 01:32:51.000 --> 01:32:53.000 And that's my goal here as a board member. 01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:57.000 Like, I'm, we are going through transition time and enrollment is going to fall. 01:32:57.000 --> 01:33:01.000 We can look at this like this is like the car is on fire and we're spiraling out of control 01:33:01.000 --> 01:33:06.000 and emergency or we can be calm and level headed about it and say, hey, things are going to 01:33:06.000 --> 01:33:07.000 change. 01:33:07.000 --> 01:33:10.000 What, what do we want them to look like when they change and how do we make really good 01:33:10.000 --> 01:33:16.000 decisions about what to cut and reshape in order to create and grow a thriving district. 01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:22.000 And so like I'm there, I think there are this side of things where yeah, we should be making 01:33:22.000 --> 01:33:25.000 these ultimately like these facility changes and things like that. 01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:30.000 I think in the spirit of not only visioning, but preparing well for a future referendum, 01:33:30.000 --> 01:33:35.000 there's got to be that other side of the t-chart which are things that we are cutting this because 01:33:35.000 --> 01:33:39.000 we have to right now because of the fiscal metaphorical whatever. 01:33:39.000 --> 01:33:43.000 But we want to bring these back and here's what this will cost. 01:33:43.000 --> 01:33:47.000 So I think it would be really helpful to me and to probably like the staff and community 01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:51.000 members that will be on the committees for us to sort of categorize those pieces because 01:33:51.000 --> 01:33:55.000 this is a lot for people to digest even in this room right now. 01:33:55.000 --> 01:33:58.000 And we have to be mindful of like how are we communicating that well, right? 01:33:58.000 --> 01:34:03.000 Like to our stakeholders and inspiring confidence and trust in people's, 01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:07.000 people are sending us their kids so we don't get 700, 500, you know, whatever open records 01:34:07.000 --> 01:34:09.000 request of a month or whatever we're getting right now. 01:34:09.000 --> 01:34:15.000 So that's kind of my large scale feedback and so I guess just to summarize, 01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:23.000 I'm just hopeful that we are going to see a budget on the 16th that prioritizes like 01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:27.000 just the sustained well-being and quality of instruction as much as is possible 01:34:27.000 --> 01:34:31.000 and experience for students and staff something that's based in a needs 01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:35.000 not a big long months process, right? But just an assessment 01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:39.000 of what are our needs and how do we best meet them now and what are we building toward? 01:34:39.000 --> 01:34:43.000 So like I feel like it should be needs driven and I guess 01:34:43.000 --> 01:34:47.000 and just thinking too about like how are we communicating clearly with our stakeholders 01:34:47.000 --> 01:34:51.000 that we're doing this kind of painful stuff and it is in service 01:34:51.000 --> 01:34:55.000 of providing the best quality, you know, care and experience for our kids. 01:34:55.000 --> 01:34:59.000 Quick aside because I just saw a note that I wrote to myself we have 01:34:59.000 --> 01:35:03.000 in the past contracted with a grant writer so if that is something that we want to explore 01:35:03.000 --> 01:35:07.000 that I don't know if that's causing these or not but anyway thank you very much. 01:35:07.000 --> 01:35:11.000 I know I had a lot to say so I appreciate your time. 01:35:11.000 --> 01:35:15.000 Thank you. Bill Johnson? Yeah I think pretty much everything 01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:19.000 is covered. I didn't see anything or some of the extra 01:35:19.000 --> 01:35:23.000 coaches we had that we had talked about reducing. We had 01:35:23.000 --> 01:35:27.000 now since we had run over the last couple years a hundred thousand dollars 01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:31.000 approximately over budget. We kept so 01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:35.000 we are taking a look at, you know, like what coaches 01:35:35.000 --> 01:35:39.000 do we have that may be in our lower 01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:43.000 number sports so we are going to maintain our budget 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:47.000 which was a 280 that we've been overspending to make sure 01:35:47.000 --> 01:35:51.000 that we spend that amount so it's not that we cut it 01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:55.000 but you've spent overspented by a hundred thousand each year 01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:59.000 actually we're taking the steps so that it's not overspent. 01:35:59.000 --> 01:36:03.000 And the other thing is I agree with 01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:07.000 Tom about VLA I think 01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:11.000 I used to deliver food there and you know 01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:15.000 if we could save money by being there because for some unknown reason they spent 01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:19.000 about two hundred thousand dollars on the kitchen before you were here 01:36:19.000 --> 01:36:23.000 at Easter break and closed the school in June 01:36:23.000 --> 01:36:33.000 Thank you Bill. Before I cycle back through 01:36:33.000 --> 01:36:37.000 board members comments I want to remind board members of our 01:36:37.000 --> 01:36:41.000 policy 610 fiscal management goals 01:36:41.000 --> 01:36:45.000 basically the development of a budget will be allocated for the greatest 01:36:45.000 --> 01:36:49.000 educational return and some of the bullet points include 01:36:49.000 --> 01:36:53.000 maintain adequate fund balance reserves while we blew that 01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:57.000 a while back maintain the level of expense needed for 01:36:57.000 --> 01:37:01.000 high quality education within the ability of the community 01:37:01.000 --> 01:37:05.000 to pay again we haven't had a referendum pass 01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:09.000 in the in the last three years utilize 01:37:09.000 --> 01:37:13.000 long-range budget forecasting in a conscious 01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:17.000 effort to maintain a balanced budget 01:37:17.000 --> 01:37:21.000 maintain the present priority of PK 12 curricular and program 01:37:21.000 --> 01:37:25.000 articulation Carol Fox 01:37:25.000 --> 01:37:35.000 Okay well and I 01:37:35.000 --> 01:37:39.000 I agree with a lot what Megan was saying we do want to do the optimal 01:37:39.000 --> 01:37:43.000 experiences and you're right we can't provide the same level of services 01:37:43.000 --> 01:37:47.000 which is why we need to talk about consolidation right 01:37:47.000 --> 01:37:51.000 because when we start consolidating things 01:37:51.000 --> 01:37:55.000 and and putting things together then 01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:59.000 we can provide better service I mean you know 01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:03.000 I don't know how often BLA needs a nurse but if they're in a facility 01:38:03.000 --> 01:38:07.000 where a nurse might be more available then the nurse doesn't have to run over 01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:11.000 for that you know we've been having discussions lately about 01:38:11.000 --> 01:38:15.000 cleaning services one less building to clean 01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:19.000 maybe that might give them more ability 01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:23.000 to do a better job in some of the other buildings 01:38:23.000 --> 01:38:27.000 and then there's the staff pieces that go along with it 01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:31.000 so I still don't understand 01:38:31.000 --> 01:38:35.000 how we can have a building that large and we can't figure out anything 01:38:35.000 --> 01:38:39.000 but there should be still some other options right we could 01:38:39.000 --> 01:38:43.000 you know Maryland's half used be like it go upstairs 01:38:43.000 --> 01:38:47.000 the little kids go downstairs figure to see if you can figure that out 01:38:47.000 --> 01:38:51.000 how about moving them over here to Colac 01:38:51.000 --> 01:38:55.000 you know it's just 01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:59.000 the more we can figure out how to consolidate services 01:38:59.000 --> 01:39:03.000 we can offer better opportunities 01:39:03.000 --> 01:39:07.000 for our kids running a building 01:39:07.000 --> 01:39:11.000 like that is also not very fiscally responsible to our community 01:39:11.000 --> 01:39:15.000 she just read something about 01:39:15.000 --> 01:39:19.000 how you know we need to do it within the balance of the budget 01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:23.000 within what the community can afford and we're looking at a 5.7 01:39:23.000 --> 01:39:27.000 million dollar deficit we haven't passed referendums 01:39:27.000 --> 01:39:31.000 and the community can't afford to be running buildings 01:39:31.000 --> 01:39:35.000 that are heart hardly used 01:39:35.000 --> 01:39:41.000 the final comment is I do think that if we want to pass a referendum 01:39:41.000 --> 01:39:45.000 we do need to be doing some more 01:39:45.000 --> 01:39:49.000 braver things maybe that I don't know if that's the best term 01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:53.000 but we need to be doing some things that get people's attention 01:39:53.000 --> 01:39:57.000 because if we don't they're going to continue to think 01:39:57.000 --> 01:40:01.000 that we don't really have the problems that we say we do 01:40:01.000 --> 01:40:05.000 that you know we can come up with the money 01:40:05.000 --> 01:40:09.000 somewhere because we always have we always will 01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:13.000 well we aren't and we can't and so 01:40:13.000 --> 01:40:17.000 we need to be braver and we need to do some braver things 01:40:17.000 --> 01:40:21.000 and I guess I have one more and that was 01:40:21.000 --> 01:40:25.000 you know we did talk about how we wanted to maintain the focus on 01:40:25.000 --> 01:40:29.000 the buildings and on the students and on the classrooms 01:40:29.000 --> 01:40:33.000 and so if we can work on figuring out ways to save money 01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:37.000 by not having to do facilities 01:40:37.000 --> 01:40:41.000 that we shouldn't be using then maybe we can 01:40:41.000 --> 01:40:45.000 put some things back in that we think we really need and the media specialists 01:40:45.000 --> 01:40:49.000 the one that comes to mind because that was the subject today but 01:40:49.000 --> 01:40:53.000 there are other things that we want to make sure that we have for our kids 01:40:53.000 --> 01:40:57.000 in the buildings. The one thing about moving buildings though 01:40:57.000 --> 01:41:01.000 in June we're talking about something would have to be done 01:41:01.000 --> 01:41:05.000 by in August. It's just that 01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:09.000 moving programs is more than moving desks and students 01:41:09.000 --> 01:41:13.000 and I just 01:41:13.000 --> 01:41:17.000 I recognize our buildings could look different 01:41:17.000 --> 01:41:21.000 in the future. I'm just telling you that 01:41:21.000 --> 01:41:25.000 to try to make something work and work 01:41:25.000 --> 01:41:29.000 from now to August 01:41:29.000 --> 01:41:33.000 I think that would be a rushed decision that we're not talking 01:41:33.000 --> 01:41:37.000 you mentioned Merrill and mine is there's been no discussion 01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:41.000 do we want to mix elementary kids in BLA? 01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:45.000 I just think you need to have discussions on those things before you 01:41:45.000 --> 01:41:49.000 make those decisions because 01:41:49.000 --> 01:41:53.000 that's why we prefer to put them at the high school but you 01:41:53.000 --> 01:41:57.000 are suggesting that there's no way that we can do that and there's no way that that can happen 01:41:57.000 --> 01:42:01.000 either and I would tell you that this district has moved 01:42:01.000 --> 01:42:05.000 people a lot we've moved people often when things weren't even ready 01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:09.000 the teachers moved into Cunningham when the building wasn't even 01:42:09.000 --> 01:42:13.000 finished so I think that 01:42:13.000 --> 01:42:17.000 I know it would be a stretch and I know it would be hard and I know there 01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:21.000 be some things that maybe didn't get moved right away 01:42:21.000 --> 01:42:25.000 but I think if we come to grips with it we can do it 01:42:25.000 --> 01:42:29.000 thank you 01:42:29.000 --> 01:42:33.000 so the board has received 01:42:33.000 --> 01:42:37.000 option A, option B, C and D 01:42:37.000 --> 01:42:41.000 and I will point out 01:42:41.000 --> 01:42:45.000 to everyone that all of these are 01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:49.000 deficit budget options 01:42:49.000 --> 01:42:53.000 none of these are a zero balance 01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:57.000 budget 01:42:57.000 --> 01:43:01.000 if we go with any of these we will have to dip into 01:43:01.000 --> 01:43:05.000 resource money which I am not a proponent 01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:09.000 of that's why when I first looked at this 01:43:09.000 --> 01:43:13.000 I just went right down to the bottom line option B 01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:17.000 option B is the one that's got the 01:43:17.000 --> 01:43:21.000 focus to a balanced budget for the 26-27 01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:25.000 school year and I do think that we have to 01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:29.000 get creative this year with what we are 01:43:29.000 --> 01:43:33.000 doing and spending our money on because of the huge 01:43:33.000 --> 01:43:37.000 financial cliff that we will be facing 01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:41.000 next year I know moving 01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:45.000 programs isn't easy it's not fun but I think we 01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:49.000 have not taken a good 01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:53.000 look at why BLA was placed at 01:43:53.000 --> 01:43:57.000 Cunningham and whether or not that was a 01:43:57.000 --> 01:44:01.000 wise fiscal choice looking 01:44:01.000 --> 01:44:05.000 at a earlier board meeting I had 01:44:05.000 --> 01:44:09.000 compared the energy cost per student by building 01:44:09.000 --> 01:44:13.000 and questioned why Frusan was higher 01:44:13.000 --> 01:44:17.000 it's a newer building but per student at BLA 01:44:17.000 --> 01:44:21.000 we're spending over $900 a year for energy costs 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:25.000 well that got me thinking well if we took it a step 01:44:25.000 --> 01:44:29.000 further what are our staffing costs per student 01:44:29.000 --> 01:44:33.000 so I did that calculation and 01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:37.000 lo and behold we're spending 01:44:37.000 --> 01:44:41.000 over $11,000 01:44:41.000 --> 01:44:45.000 per student per year at BLA 01:44:45.000 --> 01:44:49.000 compared to our lowest building which would be 01:44:49.000 --> 01:44:53.000 Robinson at 5286 01:44:53.000 --> 01:44:57.000 per year comparing putting these costs together 01:44:57.000 --> 01:45:01.000 per student BLA 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:05.000 we're spending almost $13,000 01:45:05.000 --> 01:45:09.000 $12,747 per student 01:45:09.000 --> 01:45:13.000 again Robinson 01:45:13.000 --> 01:45:17.000 I know Robinson is full and I know they're short staff 01:45:17.000 --> 01:45:21.000 but when we look at how much we're investing 01:45:21.000 --> 01:45:25.000 per student this is 01:45:25.000 --> 01:45:29.000 for as wonderful a program BLA is 01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:33.000 and for as long as we've had it I appreciate it but we are 01:45:33.000 --> 01:45:37.000 at the point now we need to as board members ask ourselves 01:45:37.000 --> 01:45:41.000 do we want a program or do we want to ensure 01:45:41.000 --> 01:45:45.000 the viability of the school district of BLA for three years 01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:49.000 from now five years ten years from now because some of the decisions we're making now 01:45:49.000 --> 01:45:53.000 will have that carry over impact 01:45:53.000 --> 01:45:57.000 especially if we don't have confidence from our 01:45:57.000 --> 01:46:01.000 constituents when it comes time for the board to go 01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:05.000 to a referendum if we are continuing 01:46:05.000 --> 01:46:09.000 to have deficit budgets hoping and relying 01:46:09.000 --> 01:46:13.000 on some situation that might or 01:46:13.000 --> 01:46:17.000 may or may not present itself 01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:21.000 we won't have people have much confidence in us and in the decisions we're making 01:46:21.000 --> 01:46:25.000 I'm not in favor 01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:29.000 of option D not because of the 01:46:29.000 --> 01:46:33.000 necessarily the cuts or things in here it's just not enough 01:46:33.000 --> 01:46:37.000 and we are still 01:46:37.000 --> 01:46:41.000 1.7 million away from 01:46:41.000 --> 01:46:45.000 a balanced budget with option D and to me that's 01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:49.000 I can't in good faith go to 01:46:49.000 --> 01:46:53.000 our constituents and ask them to support us in a referendum 01:46:53.000 --> 01:46:57.000 if we can't do better 01:46:57.000 --> 01:47:01.000 coming up with a balanced budget 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:05.000 Megan Miller thank you so much so in the spirit 01:47:05.000 --> 01:47:09.000 of consensus building I want to 01:47:09.000 --> 01:47:13.000 raise my hand to respond to something Carol had said but I'll iterate something for you as well 01:47:13.000 --> 01:47:17.000 so I love the idea miss box like when you say 01:47:17.000 --> 01:47:21.000 consolidation can potentially provide better services I fully 01:47:21.000 --> 01:47:25.000 agree and I think that that's exactly the right kind of mindset 01:47:25.000 --> 01:47:29.000 that we need to approach all of these things 01:47:29.000 --> 01:47:33.000 I had a couple of other thoughts 01:47:33.000 --> 01:47:37.000 when you mentioned acting you know with courage and then TF just in response 01:47:37.000 --> 01:47:41.000 to what you were saying I'm still 01:47:41.000 --> 01:47:45.000 I am still happy to vote for some form of option D 01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:49.000 and I guess my question to the board 01:47:49.000 --> 01:47:53.000 and to the administration is we do we have two weeks between now and the 16th 01:47:53.000 --> 01:47:57.000 I agree with the sentiments expressed 01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:01.000 by the BEA and by Dr. Anderson that we should be 01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:05.000 setting off to do a longer very 01:48:05.000 --> 01:48:09.000 thoughtful facility study and make recommendations and I'm not 01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:13.000 saying we should my question and listening to what Tia just said is would it be worthwhile 01:48:13.000 --> 01:48:17.000 for us prior to the 16th to sit down 01:48:17.000 --> 01:48:21.000 and find what 01:48:21.000 --> 01:48:25.000 possible potential facilities changes 01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:29.000 could look like and I mean for the record I'm not in favor of moving BLA 01:48:29.000 --> 01:48:33.000 to the high school 01:48:33.000 --> 01:48:37.000 I don't think I have enough information to know 01:48:37.000 --> 01:48:41.000 where we are facilities wise and I don't know if it's right to explore that between 01:48:41.000 --> 01:48:45.000 now and then but I definitely appreciate where both of your comments 01:48:45.000 --> 01:48:49.000 are coming from and I do think of course consolidation has to be the way forward 01:48:49.000 --> 01:48:53.000 at some point so thank you. 01:48:53.000 --> 01:48:57.000 The mention of BLA and the cost per student 01:48:57.000 --> 01:49:01.000 you have to remember the cost per student for the alternative 01:49:01.000 --> 01:49:05.000 the educational programming and the 01:49:05.000 --> 01:49:09.000 basically the number of students per staff 01:49:09.000 --> 01:49:13.000 at an alternative school and at an elementary school 01:49:13.000 --> 01:49:17.000 that's not a comparable factor I mean 01:49:17.000 --> 01:49:21.000 the programs are vastly different if you compared 01:49:21.000 --> 01:49:27.000 to TOD okay it's the same type but these programs are entirely different. 01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:31.000 Yeah I understand that and I was just comparing the two 01:49:31.000 --> 01:49:35.000 outliers so let's compare BLA to B MHS 01:49:35.000 --> 01:49:39.000 so BLA 12 747 01:49:39.000 --> 01:49:45.000 B MHS 7369 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:49.000 we don't legally have to have 01:49:49.000 --> 01:49:53.000 a BLA that's that's something that we the 01:49:53.000 --> 01:49:57.000 district years ago decided to provide us as 01:49:57.000 --> 01:50:01.000 an option I think we need to get 01:50:01.000 --> 01:50:05.000 the cost for if we are going to continue to have a BLA 01:50:05.000 --> 01:50:09.000 program we need to get these costs much more 01:50:09.000 --> 01:50:13.000 in line with something like the 01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:17.000 high school cost I'm not saying they're ever going to be 01:50:17.000 --> 01:50:21.000 the same obviously well higher needs students higher 01:50:21.000 --> 01:50:25.000 needs cost but this this doesn't make sense 01:50:25.000 --> 01:50:29.000 to me as a school district employee 01:50:29.000 --> 01:50:33.000 taxpayer. Dan Shuf 01:50:33.000 --> 01:50:37.000 Thank you Madam Chair. I have a couple questions 01:50:37.000 --> 01:50:41.000 so is that read the agenda 01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:45.000 today I don't know who answers parliamentary questions 01:50:45.000 --> 01:50:49.000 and inquiry the agenda is listed 01:50:49.000 --> 01:50:53.000 as a board action and recommended action 01:50:53.000 --> 01:50:57.000 if needed so under 01:50:57.000 --> 01:51:01.000 this is the question for Mr. Schope we could 01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:05.000 take action on this if we chose to tonight it's been noticed appropriately under the open 01:51:05.000 --> 01:51:09.000 meetings law 01:51:09.000 --> 01:51:13.000 okay so I've said earlier 01:51:13.000 --> 01:51:17.000 that we really need the time 01:51:17.000 --> 01:51:21.000 to make the discussions to talk exactly what 01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:25.000 Tripperson-Johnson and Mrs. Fox 01:51:25.000 --> 01:51:29.000 are saying and all the other board members are saying about these important decisions 01:51:29.000 --> 01:51:33.000 we need to make just don't know how we make all these decisions 01:51:33.000 --> 01:51:37.000 and the time we have so 01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:41.000 Dr. Anderson you 01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:45.000 gave us option C earlier as something that you were recommending 01:51:45.000 --> 01:51:49.000 is that correct that is correct I gave option 01:51:49.000 --> 01:51:53.000 C and then when we had the 01:51:53.000 --> 01:51:57.000 the questions about various other proposals I 01:51:57.000 --> 01:52:01.000 you know I crafted option D based on the board responses 01:52:01.000 --> 01:52:05.000 to those okay and then you support 01:52:05.000 --> 01:52:09.000 you are recommending to us option D 01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:13.000 at this point yes okay but I like I said 01:52:13.000 --> 01:52:17.000 is that if there are changes that need to be made 01:52:17.000 --> 01:52:21.000 the thing that I want the thing that I want to do is I want 01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:25.000 to make sure we get a budget passed so that I can move on 01:52:25.000 --> 01:52:29.000 once these decisions are made then we can start making other decisions 01:52:29.000 --> 01:52:33.000 before these decisions are made then I can't 01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:37.000 if you're asking me do I support option D when I recommend that the answer 01:52:37.000 --> 01:52:41.000 would be yes okay so I'm going to make a 01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:45.000 a motion here for tonight for us to 01:52:45.000 --> 01:52:49.000 to discuss I'm going to move option D 01:52:49.000 --> 01:52:53.000 with one monetary change which is to keep 01:52:53.000 --> 01:52:57.000 the library media specialist at 1.0 as part of 01:52:57.000 --> 01:53:01.000 that motion I'd like to also direct the administration to 01:53:01.000 --> 01:53:05.000 bring a plan back to have Cunningham 01:53:05.000 --> 01:53:09.000 and Wright completely closed for next year when I don't we can't 01:53:09.000 --> 01:53:13.000 do that until we act on the plan but I'm direct we would part of this motion 01:53:13.000 --> 01:53:17.000 we would direct you to bring a plan back to do that as you 01:53:17.000 --> 01:53:21.000 heard from the consensus here on the 01:53:21.000 --> 01:53:25.000 board so I'll make that motion 01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:29.000 I'll second 01:53:29.000 --> 01:53:33.000 would you accept an amend or I guess I can I'll wait for discussion 01:53:33.000 --> 01:53:39.000 for Mr. Schop did you get that? 01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:45.000 I just want to clarify that I did 01:53:45.000 --> 01:53:49.000 receive it correctly I have to move option D 01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:53.000 approval of option D with keeping the media 01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:57.000 at the media positions at 1.0 and then to direct the administration 01:53:57.000 --> 01:54:01.000 to bring a plan back that would have 01:54:01.000 --> 01:54:05.000 both Cunningham and Wright closed for next 01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:09.000 school year for like the start of this coming school year that's correct 01:54:09.000 --> 01:54:13.000 then yes I did get it and it was seconded by 01:54:13.000 --> 01:54:17.000 Joanne Roo can I add an amendment 01:54:21.000 --> 01:54:25.000 I think Megan first requested an amendment 01:54:25.000 --> 01:54:29.000 yes I did but actually before I request an amendment 01:54:29.000 --> 01:54:33.000 I have I have a clarifying question for Dr. Anderson and then I'm going to decide 01:54:33.000 --> 01:54:37.000 whether or not I want to make an amendment is that okay with you 01:54:37.000 --> 01:54:41.000 President Johnson Dr. Anderson 01:54:41.000 --> 01:54:45.000 I am wondering because what jumped in my mind right away 01:54:45.000 --> 01:54:49.000 is I guess I don't want to restrict 01:54:49.000 --> 01:54:53.000 any kind of facility recommendation that you or the administration 01:54:53.000 --> 01:54:57.000 collectively might make so would you be comfortable 01:54:57.000 --> 01:55:01.000 with the language as presented in this motion or would you prefer 01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:05.000 if there were going to be an actionable like here's what we're bringing to the next meeting 01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:09.000 discussion about facilities to have to broaden the 01:55:09.000 --> 01:55:13.000 language to be facility recommendations for the upcoming school year 01:55:13.000 --> 01:55:17.000 where we can consolidate 01:55:17.000 --> 01:55:21.000 I'm not quite I have an wordsmith that but do you understand what I'm asking? 01:55:21.000 --> 01:55:25.000 I know what you're asking. 01:55:25.000 --> 01:55:29.000 I think what the what the issue is is that 01:55:29.000 --> 01:55:33.000 I believe moving programs facilities 01:55:33.000 --> 01:55:37.000 details lots of discussions with lots of parties 01:55:37.000 --> 01:55:41.000 you're now asking me to come back with a plan in two weeks 01:55:41.000 --> 01:55:45.000 on how we're going to close two buildings 01:55:45.000 --> 01:55:49.000 between now and the end of August 01:55:49.000 --> 01:55:53.000 No I don't think that's I think he 01:55:53.000 --> 01:55:57.000 means next school year Mr. Schoof can you clarify? 01:55:57.000 --> 01:56:01.000 I was heard from 01:56:01.000 --> 01:56:05.000 Ms. Fox that we wanted more details on how 01:56:05.000 --> 01:56:09.000 to you know essentially remove 01:56:09.000 --> 01:56:13.000 Cunningham from our portfolio and you know to do that 01:56:13.000 --> 01:56:17.000 we need more information from the administration so I didn't put it I didn't put a deadline 01:56:17.000 --> 01:56:21.000 on it I said to bring a plan back it's not 01:56:21.000 --> 01:56:25.000 that plan would have to be approved by this board and you have to get four votes 01:56:25.000 --> 01:56:29.000 so the the budget would be done you'd have budget 01:56:29.000 --> 01:56:33.000 guidance and you have one you know homework item to bring back to the 01:56:33.000 --> 01:56:37.000 board that's my that was my intent of the motion 01:56:37.000 --> 01:56:41.000 and it was specifically to Cunningham not to 01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:47.000 leave open this conversation about Merrill and other places until we've had the broader community 01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:51.000 conversation that we need to have as part of the next few months 01:56:51.000 --> 01:56:55.000 and I guess that would be my other is I do think all of our buildings 01:56:55.000 --> 01:56:59.000 have to be taken as a whole so that 01:56:59.000 --> 01:57:03.000 if I empty out Cunningham and we look at where we're going to move it 01:57:03.000 --> 01:57:07.000 what is the plan for kind I mean I truly 01:57:07.000 --> 01:57:11.000 believe we need to have lots of discussions and we need to start 01:57:11.000 --> 01:57:15.000 the board what do you want this to look like facility wise for 01:57:15.000 --> 01:57:19.000 twenty seven twenty eight I think it's just makes it more difficult 01:57:19.000 --> 01:57:23.000 if you do piecemeal 01:57:23.000 --> 01:57:27.000 will I will we do that the answer is 01:57:27.000 --> 01:57:31.000 we will certainly if that's what the board decides we will do that but I think 01:57:31.000 --> 01:57:35.000 facility wise we would be much 01:57:35.000 --> 01:57:39.000 we'd be much better off if we took a look at all facilities in our district 01:57:39.000 --> 01:57:43.000 and we said based on what we want the district 01:57:43.000 --> 01:57:47.000 to look like and what we think we can afford all of the factors 01:57:47.000 --> 01:57:51.000 what is it that we want how do we want our 01:57:51.000 --> 01:57:55.000 buildings to look like at the beginning of the twenty seven twenty eight school year 01:57:55.000 --> 01:57:59.000 and to have a plan and then to as I said earlier 01:57:59.000 --> 01:58:03.000 make a motion let everybody know by January 01:58:03.000 --> 01:58:07.000 so that we have eight months to implement it I think that is a fruitful 01:58:07.000 --> 01:58:11.000 discussion I would just say that if you try to piecemeal it 01:58:11.000 --> 01:58:15.000 it makes it more difficult so then thank you so much for clarifying 01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:19.000 then I suppose the the amendment that I would recommend 01:58:19.000 --> 01:58:23.000 I can I can support the first part of the 01:58:23.000 --> 01:58:27.000 motion I would like to suggest an amendment 01:58:27.000 --> 01:58:31.000 or move an amendment that we instead 01:58:31.000 --> 01:58:35.000 ask the administration to bring back its recommendations 01:58:35.000 --> 01:58:39.000 about how best to move forward with consolidating facilities 01:58:39.000 --> 01:58:43.000 and the reason that I say that is that it gets to the spirit of what we're hearing 01:58:43.000 --> 01:58:47.000 it doesn't disenfranchise people who in our community 01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:51.000 who might want to see Cunningham utilized in lieu of 01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:55.000 it still gets to the consolidation piece 01:58:55.000 --> 01:58:59.000 Madam Chair on the on the motion 01:58:59.000 --> 01:59:03.000 go ahead so I've only been on the board 01:59:03.000 --> 01:59:07.000 for a short period of time but 01:59:07.000 --> 01:59:11.000 even before I was even before I was on the board 01:59:11.000 --> 01:59:15.000 and we're invited into a conversation I've been saying 01:59:15.000 --> 01:59:19.000 we need long-term modeling I learned tonight it's in our policy 01:59:19.000 --> 01:59:23.000 I've been asking asking asking for long-term 01:59:23.000 --> 01:59:27.000 financial modeling tied into what kind of district 01:59:27.000 --> 01:59:31.000 do we want I think I think it's the exact same thing almost every 01:59:31.000 --> 01:59:35.000 member here wants so I do not want a discussion that 01:59:35.000 --> 01:59:39.000 puts the cart before the horse which is facilities versus what the district we want 01:59:39.000 --> 01:59:43.000 so my motion tonight brings in 01:59:43.000 --> 01:59:47.000 I'm just asking the administration to bring a plan 01:59:47.000 --> 01:59:51.000 you may bring the plan back that does not get the support of this board 01:59:51.000 --> 01:59:55.000 but we need to put this budget behind us 01:59:55.000 --> 01:59:59.000 we need to get on to the big question on the long-term 01:59:59.000 --> 02:00:03.000 financial modeling of the state of the district that's 02:00:03.000 --> 02:00:07.000 I think all of our goal here to we all can make tough decisions 02:00:07.000 --> 02:00:11.000 but we have to have the time to make them 02:00:11.000 --> 02:00:15.000 so that's why I do not want to broaden this because that's not 02:00:15.000 --> 02:00:19.000 the intent that's not my intent we are going to have those conversations 02:00:19.000 --> 02:00:23.000 once we answer the question what kind of district we want 02:00:23.000 --> 02:00:27.000 then we'll ask a question of all of our board members if we support 02:00:27.000 --> 02:00:31.000 a referendum that gets to that amount that we need 02:00:31.000 --> 02:00:35.000 and then if we agree to that then we have to ask our community to support that 02:00:35.000 --> 02:00:39.000 there's a lot of effort that would take to do that 02:00:39.000 --> 02:00:43.000 but from that we will be able to answer our questions 02:00:43.000 --> 02:00:47.000 you know what how many facilities we're going to need and 02:00:47.000 --> 02:00:51.000 going forward I think the broader question is premature 02:00:51.000 --> 02:00:55.000 is there a second 02:00:55.000 --> 02:00:59.000 on the amendment there's an amendment on the floor to 02:00:59.000 --> 02:01:03.000 have the admin come back with a plan to best utilize 02:01:03.000 --> 02:01:07.000 facilities. 02:01:07.000 --> 02:01:11.000 No second so that 02:01:11.000 --> 02:01:15.000 amendment dies 02:01:15.000 --> 02:01:19.000 and this is fox you 02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:23.000 had a recommended amendment 02:01:23.000 --> 02:01:27.000 and I don't maybe Dan can 02:01:27.000 --> 02:01:31.000 talk me through this to see if it's part of it I am concerned that we 02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:35.000 approve this without seeing the grant plans 02:01:35.000 --> 02:01:39.000 and there's an awful lot of grant stuff on here 02:01:39.000 --> 02:01:43.000 so if we approve it like I said there's 02:01:43.000 --> 02:01:47.000 like there's the 02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:51.000 the coach not the coach the para educator for 02:01:51.000 --> 02:01:55.000 early literacy we don't we've not seen anything about it we have no 02:01:55.000 --> 02:01:59.000 job description we have nothing so I'm a little 02:01:59.000 --> 02:02:03.000 concerned so you know my amendment would be that we 02:02:03.000 --> 02:02:07.000 also have a plan for how they are planning 02:02:07.000 --> 02:02:11.000 to utilize these grant positions. 02:02:11.000 --> 02:02:15.000 So may I answer that Madam Chair is that correct so 02:02:15.000 --> 02:02:19.000 I think those are the DPI literacy are they the DPI literacy 02:02:19.000 --> 02:02:23.000 Stephanie is these are the DPI grant that we got the new grant from DPI is that what those positions are? 02:02:23.000 --> 02:02:27.000 yeah no 02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:31.000 two of them are not the 02:02:31.000 --> 02:02:35.000 para's 02:02:35.000 --> 02:02:39.000 the other 02:02:39.000 --> 02:02:43.000 is a grant that we received for additional 02:02:43.000 --> 02:02:47.000 literacy from DPI 02:02:47.000 --> 02:02:51.000 no and um 02:02:51.000 --> 02:02:55.000 that makes sense to me as it you know 02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:59.000 that makes sense to me to 02:02:59.000 --> 02:03:03.000 have more information on this 02:03:03.000 --> 02:03:07.000 I would like to put the budget to bed tonight though 02:03:07.000 --> 02:03:11.000 in terms of we're passing a draft budget it's not the final 02:03:11.000 --> 02:03:15.000 final budget it's not our process but we can get on to having the 02:03:15.000 --> 02:03:19.000 broader conversations the fiscal modeling all that 02:03:19.000 --> 02:03:23.000 I'm supportive I consider you're you know a defriendly amendment to say you 02:03:23.000 --> 02:03:27.000 bring more information back about the grants and if we hate what we see we can change 02:03:27.000 --> 02:03:31.000 it that goes also for for Megan's amendment I 02:03:31.000 --> 02:03:35.000 don't want to take any action tonight that speeds up the process 02:03:35.000 --> 02:03:39.000 of closing Merrill I don't want to take any action there tonight 02:03:39.000 --> 02:03:43.000 and doing that so that's why that's why I know Merrill 02:03:43.000 --> 02:03:47.000 because a broader thing will quickly turn into needing to close 02:03:47.000 --> 02:03:51.000 Merrill that is part of a broader conversation 02:03:51.000 --> 02:03:55.000 so 02:03:55.000 --> 02:03:59.000 Mrs. Fox do you have an amendment or are you 02:03:59.000 --> 02:04:03.000 good with it as it is yeah I would like to amend it 02:04:03.000 --> 02:04:07.000 to say that we need the plan for with the 02:04:07.000 --> 02:04:11.000 addition of the plan for the grant positions 02:04:11.000 --> 02:04:15.000 at least you know I'll second that 02:04:15.000 --> 02:04:19.000 and 02:04:19.000 --> 02:04:23.000 Mrs. Schop did you get that 02:04:23.000 --> 02:04:27.000 okay so that was seconded 02:04:27.000 --> 02:04:31.000 then by Dan Schoof is there any 02:04:31.000 --> 02:04:35.000 discussion on the amendment 02:04:35.000 --> 02:04:39.000 Megan Miller 02:04:39.000 --> 02:04:43.000 thank you so much may I ask a clarifying question of Mr. Schoof 02:04:43.000 --> 02:04:47.000 thank you Mr. Schoof I just I think I might be 02:04:47.000 --> 02:04:51.000 missing something so I would appreciate an explanation so 02:04:51.000 --> 02:04:55.000 I am hearing you say that you would like to direct 02:04:55.000 --> 02:04:59.000 the administration to bring back a plan and I believe you said 02:04:59.000 --> 02:05:03.000 it included closing right and conning 02:05:03.000 --> 02:05:07.000 him that's what I have down is that correct yeah 02:05:07.000 --> 02:05:11.000 and then we would have to approve that plan got it okay thank you 02:05:11.000 --> 02:05:15.000 may I clarify why those two specific buildings are in 02:05:15.000 --> 02:05:19.000 your motion in lieu of a plan to consolidate 02:05:19.000 --> 02:05:23.000 which implies closing one or more buildings and the reason that I ask 02:05:23.000 --> 02:05:27.000 is because Dr. Anderson just explained he would like to take the time to look at 02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:31.000 all of this all of the facilities prior to bringing forth a recommendation 02:05:31.000 --> 02:05:35.000 so I can only speak for myself 02:05:35.000 --> 02:05:39.000 I don't want to push the cart before the horse 02:05:39.000 --> 02:05:43.000 I think we have to answer the question what kind of district do we want 02:05:43.000 --> 02:05:47.000 I think we need to get to that tomorrow and through 02:05:47.000 --> 02:05:51.000 it's only 60 days before now and August 1st 02:05:51.000 --> 02:05:55.000 we really need to work through these questions 02:05:55.000 --> 02:05:59.000 and if we're going to do a referendum or not I don't know 02:05:59.000 --> 02:06:03.000 if we are or not and I don't know if we'll agree on it but 02:06:03.000 --> 02:06:07.000 that will drive whether we have massive consolidation 02:06:07.000 --> 02:06:11.000 buildings or things like that and 02:06:11.000 --> 02:06:15.000 so I'm trying to craft a motion today that puts the 02:06:15.000 --> 02:06:19.000 budget to bed I heard what my colleagues say I didn't bring up the Cunningham 02:06:19.000 --> 02:06:23.000 thing they heard what my colleagues an emerging consensus on the board I was trying to 02:06:23.000 --> 02:06:27.000 react to that so that's why I included them together but I think they lived together 02:06:27.000 --> 02:06:31.000 and again it may be untenable we're going to listen to the professionals 02:06:31.000 --> 02:06:35.000 it may not work or it may make a lot more sense for the year after 02:06:35.000 --> 02:06:39.000 let's direct them to do the work that Carol's asking for 02:06:39.000 --> 02:06:43.000 they know I want the work of doing the financial modeling and you all want that 02:06:43.000 --> 02:06:47.000 that will come as part of this 60-day sprint to August 1st 02:06:47.000 --> 02:06:51.000 Thank you so much for clarifying because I think when I hear you say 02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:55.000 and this is what I just I'm not it's not congruent in my mind right now when I say 02:06:55.000 --> 02:06:59.000 we don't want to put the cart before the horse but then you 02:06:59.000 --> 02:07:03.000 are naming specific buildings that the board has not discussed because 02:07:03.000 --> 02:07:07.000 I do have thoughts and opinions on facilities but since that wasn't the topic of discussion 02:07:07.000 --> 02:07:11.000 this evening since option D does not include those items 02:07:11.000 --> 02:07:15.000 and option D is the agenda item listed I as one 02:07:15.000 --> 02:07:19.000 of seven don't feel that we've had a satisfactory discussion to build consensus 02:07:19.000 --> 02:07:23.000 as a board about where we specifically want to go with facility 02:07:23.000 --> 02:07:27.000 so I otherwise wholly on the same page I 02:07:27.000 --> 02:07:31.000 love the idea of moving things forward so people can move forward in clarity and I 02:07:31.000 --> 02:07:35.000 100% agree that a plan going forward will include a consolidation 02:07:35.000 --> 02:07:39.000 of one or more buildings where I am uncomfortable 02:07:39.000 --> 02:07:43.000 is naming those specific buildings without I'm not ruling either of them out 02:07:43.000 --> 02:07:47.000 but I'm I just I don't even I don't even have a sense 02:07:47.000 --> 02:07:51.000 of where we're going with that okay so right is closed 02:07:51.000 --> 02:07:55.000 it is 905 02:07:55.000 --> 02:07:59.000 we are over our two hour limit I will entertain 02:07:59.000 --> 02:08:03.000 a motion to extend the meeting by half an hour so moved 02:08:03.000 --> 02:08:07.000 motion by Carol Foss is there a second by Bill Johnson 02:08:07.000 --> 02:08:11.000 all in favor aye aye aye aye 02:08:11.000 --> 02:08:15.000 any opposed motion carries unanimously 02:08:15.000 --> 02:08:19.000 Mr. Schofall I'll let you respond 02:08:19.000 --> 02:08:23.000 so to respond to 02:08:23.000 --> 02:08:27.000 Member Miller's question 02:08:27.000 --> 02:08:31.000 I'm trying right is closed we are 02:08:31.000 --> 02:08:35.000 essentially occupying it a little bit for insurance purposes as I totally get 02:08:35.000 --> 02:08:39.000 because I ran facilities at the college I totally understand that 02:08:39.000 --> 02:08:43.000 but I heard a consensus on the board 02:08:43.000 --> 02:08:47.000 that they want to look a real meaty idea 02:08:47.000 --> 02:08:51.000 I mean we heard it's not feasible a couple different options 02:08:51.000 --> 02:08:55.000 but I heard also at the table from the leaders that have been on here longer than me 02:08:55.000 --> 02:08:59.000 that they want to see a plan on it and so 02:08:59.000 --> 02:09:03.000 I'm not saying I'm going to support the plan when it gets here because I don't know what it's going to look like 02:09:03.000 --> 02:09:07.000 I haven't seen anything on him so I I'm voting for it 02:09:07.000 --> 02:09:11.000 so I can see meaty detailed information 02:09:11.000 --> 02:09:15.000 on it it may not be possible so when you say 02:09:15.000 --> 02:09:19.000 it you specifically mean cutting him in that facilities in general 02:09:19.000 --> 02:09:23.000 okay so mrs. Schofall that's what the motion is would you please read back 02:09:23.000 --> 02:09:27.000 and we're talking about the amendment not the motion 02:09:27.000 --> 02:09:31.000 the amendment would you please read back the amendment 02:09:31.000 --> 02:09:35.000 the amendment that Ms. Foxmate 02:09:35.000 --> 02:09:39.000 yes that's the only one that had a second okay 02:09:39.000 --> 02:09:43.000 so that amendment I have says move to amend with the addition 02:09:43.000 --> 02:09:47.000 of a plan for the grant positions 02:09:47.000 --> 02:09:51.000 is there any discussion 02:09:51.000 --> 02:09:55.000 on this amendment 02:09:55.000 --> 02:09:59.000 we're going to take a vote only on the amendment 02:09:59.000 --> 02:10:03.000 not on the original motion so we're only 02:10:03.000 --> 02:10:07.000 taking a vote to add that grant 02:10:07.000 --> 02:10:11.000 phrase into the original motion 02:10:11.000 --> 02:10:15.000 on favor 02:10:15.000 --> 02:10:19.000 aye 02:10:19.000 --> 02:10:23.000 aye aye 02:10:23.000 --> 02:10:27.000 any opposed 02:10:27.000 --> 02:10:31.000 the amendment passes unanimously 02:10:31.000 --> 02:10:35.000 now mrs. Schof would you please read the motion 02:10:35.000 --> 02:10:39.000 with the amendment added to it yes 02:10:39.000 --> 02:10:43.000 so the motion would be to move approval of option D with keeping 02:10:43.000 --> 02:10:47.000 media at 1.0 FTE 02:10:47.000 --> 02:10:51.000 and direct administration to bring back a plan for closing 02:10:51.000 --> 02:10:55.000 Cunningham and Wright for next school year 02:10:55.000 --> 02:10:59.000 and to 02:10:59.000 --> 02:11:03.000 bring back a plan 02:11:03.000 --> 02:11:07.000 for the grant positions 02:11:07.000 --> 02:11:11.000 thank you is there any questions or discussion on this 02:11:11.000 --> 02:11:15.000 Ms. Fox 02:11:15.000 --> 02:11:19.000 I just want to say 02:11:19.000 --> 02:11:23.000 the idea about Cunningham didn't come out of thin air it came out of option B 02:11:23.000 --> 02:11:27.000 okay so 02:11:27.000 --> 02:11:31.000 it's even only part of option B but it seemed the most doable part 02:11:31.000 --> 02:11:35.000 in my humble opinion 02:11:35.000 --> 02:11:39.000 and we're not talking about selling Cunningham we're not talking about changing 02:11:39.000 --> 02:11:43.000 doing anything different with the facility except not 02:11:43.000 --> 02:11:47.000 using it next year so that we can continue to have a broader 02:11:47.000 --> 02:11:51.000 discussion about how we want to use all of our facilities 02:11:51.000 --> 02:11:55.000 doing this one thing is not 02:11:55.000 --> 02:11:59.000 going to change the dynamic about the broader discussion about our facilities 02:11:59.000 --> 02:12:03.000 Dan Schof 02:12:03.000 --> 02:12:07.000 I have my hand up accident sorry no problem 02:12:07.000 --> 02:12:11.000 Joanne Roo yes so 02:12:11.000 --> 02:12:15.000 my thoughts in doing this like 02:12:15.000 --> 02:12:19.000 bringing back the information about Cunningham will help it be more clear 02:12:19.000 --> 02:12:23.000 to the board and to the community why either 02:12:23.000 --> 02:12:27.000 it is a good idea or it's not a good idea President Johnson 02:12:27.000 --> 02:12:31.000 I have heard lots of positive responses 02:12:31.000 --> 02:12:35.000 in the community when you talked about maybe we need to re look at special ed 02:12:35.000 --> 02:12:39.000 and and how we're staffing it how where in our buildings 02:12:39.000 --> 02:12:43.000 we're putting it and BLA is 02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:47.000 our best example of that in action 02:12:47.000 --> 02:12:51.000 and my own child was one of those super expensive children 02:12:51.000 --> 02:12:55.000 he was in a classroom where I think there were 02:12:55.000 --> 02:12:59.000 eight children and three adults all the time 02:12:59.000 --> 02:13:03.000 and so yes 02:13:03.000 --> 02:13:07.000 we do need some of these specialized classrooms and yes 02:13:07.000 --> 02:13:11.000 they are very expensive and they do need enough space 02:13:11.000 --> 02:13:15.000 to do it properly so I'm really 02:13:15.000 --> 02:13:19.000 interested in what Collek staff 02:13:19.000 --> 02:13:23.000 comes back with as in response to 02:13:23.000 --> 02:13:27.000 this information that we're asking for about BLA because 02:13:27.000 --> 02:13:31.000 I think it'll help highlight what good things you're doing over there 02:13:31.000 --> 02:13:35.000 Megan Miller thank you 02:13:35.000 --> 02:13:39.000 I have two questions one is a clarifying question for Dr. Anderson 02:13:39.000 --> 02:13:43.000 is that okay we're President Johnson okay so Dr. Anderson since we've had 02:13:43.000 --> 02:13:47.000 more discussion now about the intent in clarifying what that motion 02:13:47.000 --> 02:13:51.000 is are you still in a space where you would prefer 02:13:51.000 --> 02:13:55.000 to take more time before bringing something forward or 02:13:55.000 --> 02:13:59.000 has your position changed? 02:13:59.000 --> 02:14:03.000 as Carol mentioned if I bring back a plan and the buildings are simply 02:14:03.000 --> 02:14:07.000 empty for a year it doesn't change the larger 02:14:07.000 --> 02:14:11.000 concept it's just 02:14:11.000 --> 02:14:15.000 we have two weeks to try to come up with a plan and we will if this motion 02:14:15.000 --> 02:14:19.000 passes we will do our best 02:14:19.000 --> 02:14:23.000 okay so then yeah I just my my second 02:14:23.000 --> 02:14:27.000 this is just if we could do a roll call vote please 02:14:27.000 --> 02:14:31.000 certainly Tom Hinkins yes 02:14:31.000 --> 02:14:35.000 listening to my colleagues and I've always been in favor of 02:14:35.000 --> 02:14:39.000 doing a facilities planning session Dr. Garrison 02:14:39.000 --> 02:14:43.000 Dr. Wayne it needs to be done before 02:14:43.000 --> 02:14:47.000 we hamstring admin 02:14:47.000 --> 02:14:51.000 into saying the board chooses to close these two buildings without 02:14:51.000 --> 02:14:55.000 any reconsideration I think I agree 02:14:55.000 --> 02:14:59.000 with Dr. Anderson we put all the chess players on the board all the pounds on 02:14:59.000 --> 02:15:03.000 the board and how do we reconfigure the district 02:15:03.000 --> 02:15:07.000 not hamstring them by saying okay we're gonna close this we're gonna close that now how do you do it 02:15:07.000 --> 02:15:11.000 I do not want to tie into building 02:15:11.000 --> 02:15:15.000 closings into this budget thank you 02:15:15.000 --> 02:15:19.000 thank you 02:15:19.000 --> 02:15:23.000 and I it's shuddering 02:15:23.000 --> 02:15:27.000 so we wouldn't we would not sell 02:15:27.000 --> 02:15:31.000 or get rid of cutting him because we don't know 02:15:31.000 --> 02:15:35.000 if we are going to need that because right now cutting him 02:15:35.000 --> 02:15:39.000 is capacity wise 02:15:39.000 --> 02:15:43.000 our second largest building and 02:15:43.000 --> 02:15:47.000 in terms of there not being enough space at 02:15:47.000 --> 02:15:51.000 memorial for another 118 or 110 students 02:15:51.000 --> 02:15:55.000 and considering our enrollments 02:15:55.000 --> 02:15:59.000 continue to go down again from the presentation 02:15:59.000 --> 02:16:03.000 the functional capacity based on desire class size 02:16:03.000 --> 02:16:07.000 at BMHS is 2472 02:16:07.000 --> 02:16:11.000 enrollment as of May 1st 02:16:11.000 --> 02:16:15.000 was 1,131 02:16:15.000 --> 02:16:19.000 don't tell me that there's not room for another 100 students there 02:16:19.000 --> 02:16:23.000 that to me that math 02:16:23.000 --> 02:16:27.000 just doesn't math because 02:16:27.000 --> 02:16:31.000 running the numbers on this right now we could 02:16:31.000 --> 02:16:35.000 appellate memorial put the light memorial 02:16:35.000 --> 02:16:39.000 BLA, Fruzen, Aldridge, Merrill and heck we could put all 02:16:39.000 --> 02:16:43.000 of Colac staff there too based off of these numbers 02:16:43.000 --> 02:16:47.000 now would it be comfortable no would people be on top of each other 02:16:47.000 --> 02:16:51.000 is what I'm suggesting no but what I'm saying is 02:16:51.000 --> 02:16:55.000 this is why we keep having 02:16:55.000 --> 02:16:59.000 financial crises year after year after year 02:16:59.000 --> 02:17:03.000 we're not pulling ourselves out of this situation saying 02:17:03.000 --> 02:17:07.000 let's kick the can down the road I cannot support 02:17:07.000 --> 02:17:11.000 option D I can't 02:17:11.000 --> 02:17:15.000 support option C I can't support option A 02:17:15.000 --> 02:17:19.000 again right now the only option that comes close 02:17:19.000 --> 02:17:23.000 to a balanced budget is option B 02:17:23.000 --> 02:17:27.000 if there's no further discussion 02:17:27.000 --> 02:17:31.000 there's a request for a roll call please 02:17:32.000 --> 02:17:34.000 okay 02:17:39.000 --> 02:17:41.000 Carol Fox 02:17:41.000 --> 02:17:43.000 Aye 02:17:43.000 --> 02:17:45.000 Bill Johnson 02:17:45.000 --> 02:17:47.000 Nay 02:17:47.000 --> 02:17:51.000 Joanne Roo 02:17:51.000 --> 02:17:53.000 Aye 02:17:53.000 --> 02:17:55.000 Tom Hankins 02:17:55.000 --> 02:17:59.000 Meghan Miller 02:17:59.000 --> 02:18:01.000 Nay 02:18:01.000 --> 02:18:03.000 Dan Schuth 02:18:03.000 --> 02:18:04.000 Aye 02:18:04.000 --> 02:18:06.000 Tia Johnson 02:18:06.000 --> 02:18:08.000 Nay 02:18:08.000 --> 02:18:10.000 Emotion failed three to four 02:18:10.000 --> 02:18:13.000 Madam Chair may I make a motion? 02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:14.000 Certainly 02:18:14.000 --> 02:18:17.000 I'll move option D 02:18:17.000 --> 02:18:21.000 with restoring media specialists to 1.0 02:18:21.000 --> 02:18:23.000 Second 02:18:23.000 --> 02:18:27.000 There is a motion and a second 02:18:27.000 --> 02:18:31.000 Any discussion? 02:18:31.000 --> 02:18:35.000 Could we have a roll call though please? 02:18:35.000 --> 02:18:39.000 Certainly miss the show when you're ready 02:18:39.000 --> 02:18:45.000 Clarification what's the second? 02:18:45.000 --> 02:18:47.000 Joanne Roo 02:18:47.000 --> 02:18:49.000 Who made the second? 02:18:49.000 --> 02:18:51.000 Meghan 02:18:51.000 --> 02:18:55.000 Dan Schuth 02:18:55.000 --> 02:18:57.000 Aye 02:18:57.000 --> 02:18:59.000 Megan Miller 02:18:59.000 --> 02:19:01.000 Aye 02:19:01.000 --> 02:19:03.000 Tom Hankins 02:19:03.000 --> 02:19:05.000 Nay 02:19:05.000 --> 02:19:07.000 Carol Fox 02:19:07.000 --> 02:19:09.000 Nay 02:19:09.000 --> 02:19:11.000 Bill Johnson 02:19:11.000 --> 02:19:13.000 Aye 02:19:13.000 --> 02:19:15.000 Joanne Roo 02:19:15.000 --> 02:19:17.000 Aye 02:19:17.000 --> 02:19:19.000 And Tia Johnson 02:19:19.000 --> 02:19:21.000 Nay 02:19:21.000 --> 02:19:23.000 Motion failed three to four 02:19:23.000 --> 02:19:31.000 Dr. Anderson do you have any questions of the board? 02:19:31.000 --> 02:19:35.000 We're in the same spot before when I started two hours ago 02:19:35.000 --> 02:19:37.000 in that 02:19:37.000 --> 02:19:41.000 my goal is 02:19:41.000 --> 02:19:45.000 I don't know what to do 02:19:45.000 --> 02:19:49.000 to get a majority board vote 02:19:49.000 --> 02:19:53.000 That's the conundrum 02:19:53.000 --> 02:19:55.000 I don't know what to do 02:19:55.000 --> 02:19:57.000 to get a majority 02:19:57.000 --> 02:19:59.000 board vote 02:19:59.000 --> 02:20:01.000 If 02:20:01.000 --> 02:20:03.000 That's what I'm hoping 02:20:03.000 --> 02:20:05.000 That's what I was hoping for tonight's meeting 02:20:05.000 --> 02:20:09.000 To me to bring back another option is pointless 02:20:09.000 --> 02:20:11.000 It is 02:20:11.000 --> 02:20:13.000 We are 02:20:13.000 --> 02:20:15.000 You have different opinions 02:20:15.000 --> 02:20:17.000 And I respect that 02:20:17.000 --> 02:20:19.000 And I'm glad you're doing the opinions 02:20:19.000 --> 02:20:21.000 But for me to come up to get a majority 02:20:21.000 --> 02:20:23.000 I am no closer now 02:20:23.000 --> 02:20:25.000 Than I was two and a half hours ago 02:20:25.000 --> 02:20:27.000 So when 02:20:27.000 --> 02:20:29.000 If the task is 02:20:29.000 --> 02:20:31.000 What do you want me to bring back in the 16th 02:20:31.000 --> 02:20:33.000 The bottom line is 02:20:33.000 --> 02:20:35.000 I don't know 02:20:35.000 --> 02:20:37.000 And it's not because I can't be creative 02:20:37.000 --> 02:20:39.000 I can't be brave 02:20:39.000 --> 02:20:41.000 I can't be all those things 02:20:41.000 --> 02:20:43.000 The bottom line is 02:20:43.000 --> 02:20:45.000 I don't know what the majority of the board 02:20:45.000 --> 02:20:47.000 Is to support 02:20:47.000 --> 02:20:49.000 That's what I need direction 02:20:49.000 --> 02:20:51.000 If I know what the majority of the board 02:20:51.000 --> 02:20:53.000 Will support 02:20:53.000 --> 02:20:55.000 I will make the changes necessary 02:20:55.000 --> 02:20:57.000 To bring something back 02:20:57.000 --> 02:20:59.000 But if you want me to try to guess 02:20:59.000 --> 02:21:01.000 Where it's going to be to get the magic 02:21:01.000 --> 02:21:03.000 Fourth vote 02:21:03.000 --> 02:21:05.000 That's not my skill set 02:21:05.000 --> 02:21:07.000 So 02:21:07.000 --> 02:21:09.000 If someone can give some direction 02:21:09.000 --> 02:21:11.000 On what changes you would like 02:21:11.000 --> 02:21:13.000 For me to make to bring back 02:21:13.000 --> 02:21:15.000 I would be happy to do so 02:21:15.000 --> 02:21:17.000 But right now 02:21:17.000 --> 02:21:19.000 I am no closer than I was 02:21:19.000 --> 02:21:21.000 Two and a half hours ago 02:21:21.000 --> 02:21:23.000 So I do not have an answer 02:21:23.000 --> 02:21:25.000 Madam chair, point of clarification 02:21:25.000 --> 02:21:27.000 Yes 02:21:27.000 --> 02:21:29.000 I have a parliamentary question 02:21:29.000 --> 02:21:31.000 So my understanding of the 02:21:31.000 --> 02:21:33.000 Robert Rules of Order book that we were given 02:21:33.000 --> 02:21:35.000 Is if you vote in the affirmative 02:21:35.000 --> 02:21:37.000 You can move reconsideration 02:21:37.000 --> 02:21:39.000 Do any parliamentarians agree with me on that? 02:21:39.000 --> 02:21:41.000 So we 02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:43.000 So 02:21:43.000 --> 02:21:45.000 Let me make a point of order 02:21:45.000 --> 02:21:47.000 Or a point of personal privilege 02:21:47.000 --> 02:21:49.000 Briefly 02:21:49.000 --> 02:21:51.000 I know we are up against time 02:21:51.000 --> 02:21:53.000 So 02:21:53.000 --> 02:21:55.000 Mr. Hankins 02:21:55.000 --> 02:21:57.000 The second motion 02:21:57.000 --> 02:21:59.000 Was attempting to get you and Mr. Johnson's vote 02:21:59.000 --> 02:22:01.000 For to vote for option D 02:22:01.000 --> 02:22:03.000 Which the superintendent 02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:05.000 Is recommending 02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:07.000 That was the goal of the 02:22:07.000 --> 02:22:09.000 Taking the Cunningham out 02:22:09.000 --> 02:22:11.000 I would get us moving on the big picture 02:22:11.000 --> 02:22:13.000 Which you all have been working on longer than I have 02:22:13.000 --> 02:22:15.000 So that's why moving 02:22:15.000 --> 02:22:17.000 Reconsideration because I really would 02:22:17.000 --> 02:22:19.000 Would like to have Mr. Johnson 02:22:19.000 --> 02:22:21.000 Mr. Hankins consider 02:22:21.000 --> 02:22:23.000 Supporting the motion option D 02:22:23.000 --> 02:22:25.000 And giving the administration 02:22:25.000 --> 02:22:27.000 Option D with the 02:22:27.000 --> 02:22:29.000 Media specialist added in at 1.0 02:22:29.000 --> 02:22:31.000 And we can get on to the bigger question 02:22:31.000 --> 02:22:33.000 Of the planning for the district 02:22:33.000 --> 02:22:35.000 Which includes everything 02:22:35.000 --> 02:22:37.000 All the members on this 02:22:37.000 --> 02:22:39.000 Dias have agreed on 02:22:39.000 --> 02:22:41.000 We have to work on all the issues mentioned tonight 02:22:41.000 --> 02:22:43.000 So I move reconsideration 02:22:49.000 --> 02:22:51.000 Is there a second? 02:22:51.000 --> 02:22:53.000 I'll second that 02:22:53.000 --> 02:22:55.000 Motion for reconsideration 02:22:55.000 --> 02:22:57.000 By Dan Shoe 02:22:57.000 --> 02:22:59.000 Seconded by 02:22:59.000 --> 02:23:01.000 Joanne Roo 02:23:01.000 --> 02:23:03.000 Any discussion? 02:23:03.000 --> 02:23:05.000 Tom? 02:23:05.000 --> 02:23:07.000 Yes, I mean, there's many 02:23:07.000 --> 02:23:09.000 Mr. Shoe 02:23:09.000 --> 02:23:13.000 I'm not going to vote for 02:23:13.000 --> 02:23:15.000 A 02:23:15.000 --> 02:23:17.000 Unbalanced budget 02:23:17.000 --> 02:23:19.000 And the ones presented 02:23:19.000 --> 02:23:21.000 Are not balanced 02:23:21.000 --> 02:23:23.000 And I'm not going to go forward with it 02:23:23.000 --> 02:23:27.000 And Mr. Dr. Wade is talking about 02:23:27.000 --> 02:23:29.000 How, how does he get consensus? 02:23:29.000 --> 02:23:31.000 Well, I think a good start would be 02:23:31.000 --> 02:23:33.000 To bring a balanced budget forward 02:23:33.000 --> 02:23:35.000 And there's nothing to do with your 02:23:35.000 --> 02:23:37.000 What your 02:23:37.000 --> 02:23:39.000 Amendments were 02:23:39.000 --> 02:23:41.000 To me 02:23:41.000 --> 02:23:43.000 There are good things about 02:23:43.000 --> 02:23:45.000 A, B, C and D 02:23:45.000 --> 02:23:47.000 I don't whitewash them all 02:23:47.000 --> 02:23:49.000 I just 02:23:49.000 --> 02:23:51.000 Again, none of them 02:23:51.000 --> 02:23:53.000 Get to where we want to be 02:23:53.000 --> 02:23:55.000 At the end of the day 02:23:55.000 --> 02:23:57.000 And as you, everyone's brought up on this Dias 02:23:57.000 --> 02:23:59.000 Forward 02:23:59.000 --> 02:24:01.000 Our optics are 02:24:01.000 --> 02:24:03.000 Very visible to everyone out there 02:24:03.000 --> 02:24:05.000 It's kind of redundant 02:24:05.000 --> 02:24:07.000 So 02:24:07.000 --> 02:24:09.000 I just can't be a party 02:24:09.000 --> 02:24:11.000 To 02:24:11.000 --> 02:24:13.000 A deficit budget at this time 02:24:13.000 --> 02:24:15.000 Without 02:24:15.000 --> 02:24:17.000 And I understand open and I understand 02:24:17.000 --> 02:24:19.000 Fun balance and all that 02:24:19.000 --> 02:24:21.000 But I just think that there's more we could do 02:24:21.000 --> 02:24:23.000 There's gotta be 02:24:23.000 --> 02:24:25.000 That's just my opinion 02:24:25.000 --> 02:24:27.000 And that's why I voted in the negative 02:24:27.000 --> 02:24:29.000 And I will vote again in the negative 02:24:29.000 --> 02:24:31.000 Thank you 02:24:31.000 --> 02:24:33.000 Thank you 02:24:33.000 --> 02:24:35.000 With the board members 02:24:35.000 --> 02:24:37.000 Mind if we just went down 02:24:37.000 --> 02:24:39.000 And each board member in 02:24:39.000 --> 02:24:41.000 Two or three statements 02:24:41.000 --> 02:24:43.000 Explained to Dr. Anderson 02:24:43.000 --> 02:24:45.000 Why you 02:24:45.000 --> 02:24:47.000 Didn't support it or what changes 02:24:47.000 --> 02:24:49.000 You want to see 02:24:49.000 --> 02:24:51.000 So Mr. Shuf, I will start with you 02:24:51.000 --> 02:24:53.000 Yes, I'll be quick. I know what the time is 02:24:53.000 --> 02:24:57.000 The discussion of a 02:24:57.000 --> 02:24:59.000 Balance budget 02:24:59.000 --> 02:25:01.000 Where we would be spending some of the dollars 02:25:01.000 --> 02:25:03.000 Returned to us by the state 02:25:03.000 --> 02:25:05.000 Means we have to make 1.7 million dollars 02:25:05.000 --> 02:25:07.000 More of cuts 02:25:07.000 --> 02:25:09.000 I don't even want to know how many teachers 02:25:09.000 --> 02:25:11.000 That means 02:25:11.000 --> 02:25:13.000 I don't even want to hear the number 02:25:13.000 --> 02:25:15.000 I mean, we just, you guys have been doing 02:25:15.000 --> 02:25:17.000 The work of cutting 02:25:17.000 --> 02:25:19.000 You have been doing this work 02:25:19.000 --> 02:25:21.000 And 02:25:21.000 --> 02:25:25.000 That would be a scary number, so 02:25:26.000 --> 02:25:28.000 Joe Andrew 02:25:28.000 --> 02:25:31.000 Alright, so I've been clear 02:25:31.000 --> 02:25:33.000 Keep staff because 02:25:33.000 --> 02:25:36.000 Or keep the staff that we have here 02:25:36.000 --> 02:25:38.000 Pay them a livable wage 02:25:38.000 --> 02:25:40.000 Make sure that we're 02:25:40.000 --> 02:25:44.000 Protecting prep times, all of that stuff 02:25:44.000 --> 02:25:46.000 I don't want to slash and burn us 02:25:46.000 --> 02:25:48.000 Into a balanced budget 02:25:48.000 --> 02:25:50.000 Because it's only going to cause 02:25:50.000 --> 02:25:52.000 Bigger problems for us down the road 02:25:52.000 --> 02:25:55.000 That's what, I'm fully in favor of 02:25:55.000 --> 02:25:57.000 What we came up with tonight 02:25:57.000 --> 02:26:00.000 With adding the media specialists back in 02:26:00.000 --> 02:26:02.000 And I am 02:26:02.000 --> 02:26:05.000 As a parent, if we were desperate for 02:26:05.000 --> 02:26:08.000 Taking care of the children in my home 02:26:08.000 --> 02:26:10.000 I would use my credit card if I had to 02:26:10.000 --> 02:26:11.000 We don't even have to do that 02:26:11.000 --> 02:26:14.000 Oh, PEP isn't alone 02:26:14.000 --> 02:26:16.000 It's money we have 02:26:16.000 --> 02:26:18.000 And so I am fully in favor of 02:26:18.000 --> 02:26:20.000 What you brought tonight 02:26:20.000 --> 02:26:22.000 Adding in the media specialists 02:26:22.000 --> 02:26:24.000 And using OPEB to balance the budget 02:26:24.000 --> 02:26:28.000 Carol Fox? 02:26:28.000 --> 02:26:30.000 I think we need to think of OPEB 02:26:30.000 --> 02:26:32.000 Like fund balance 02:26:32.000 --> 02:26:34.000 It's because our fund balance is so low 02:26:34.000 --> 02:26:37.000 That we shouldn't be using the OPEB money 02:26:37.000 --> 02:26:39.000 Just because it's there 02:26:39.000 --> 02:26:42.000 I'm not opposed to using some of it 02:26:42.000 --> 02:26:45.000 But I think 1.7 is pretty high 02:26:45.000 --> 02:26:49.000 So I'm leaning more towards option B 02:26:49.000 --> 02:26:51.000 And I know we can't do all of that 02:26:51.000 --> 02:26:53.000 But we can still do some of that 02:26:53.000 --> 02:26:55.000 And I think we can get us much closer 02:26:55.000 --> 02:26:57.000 To where we need to be 02:26:57.000 --> 02:26:59.000 And like I said before 02:26:59.000 --> 02:27:01.000 I think we need to be braver about what we're doing 02:27:01.000 --> 02:27:04.000 And make a statement 02:27:04.000 --> 02:27:08.000 Tom Hankins? 02:27:08.000 --> 02:27:10.000 I'm good, thank you 02:27:10.000 --> 02:27:13.000 Tom, can you just give Dr. Anderson 02:27:13.000 --> 02:27:16.000 A quick explanation of why you either 02:27:16.000 --> 02:27:20.000 Strongly supported or strongly opposed option D 02:27:20.000 --> 02:27:24.000 And what ultimately you'd like to see happen? 02:27:24.000 --> 02:27:26.000 Well, not getting into specifics 02:27:26.000 --> 02:27:28.000 And I know that's probably what he wants 02:27:28.000 --> 02:27:31.000 But to me, ABC and D 02:27:31.000 --> 02:27:33.000 All of their high points and low points 02:27:33.000 --> 02:27:38.000 And I know, you know, putting them into one option 02:27:38.000 --> 02:27:41.000 You know, to get a hybrid of all four 02:27:41.000 --> 02:27:43.000 Or five or six, whatever 02:27:43.000 --> 02:27:46.000 You know, I understand when you're in the position 02:27:46.000 --> 02:27:49.000 You're at Dr. Anderson, you want to get four votes 02:27:49.000 --> 02:27:51.000 And I understand that 02:27:51.000 --> 02:27:53.000 But I think 02:27:53.000 --> 02:27:55.000 I'd love to get seven, but I'm being a realist 02:27:55.000 --> 02:27:57.000 Exactly, that'd be wonderful 02:27:57.000 --> 02:28:01.000 But I think bringing a balanced budget forward 02:28:01.000 --> 02:28:04.000 Would be a step in the right direction 02:28:04.000 --> 02:28:07.000 To me, and I understand 02:28:07.000 --> 02:28:10.000 But I'm just saying that's my preference 02:28:10.000 --> 02:28:16.000 And not that I wouldn't look at anything else, that's not it 02:28:16.000 --> 02:28:20.000 But I think there's 02:28:20.000 --> 02:28:24.000 You know, I understand, I just want to make sure people are aware 02:28:24.000 --> 02:28:28.000 When you say a balanced budget, that means that 02:28:28.000 --> 02:28:34.000 Somehow we go back and cut 1.5 million or more 02:28:34.000 --> 02:28:39.000 Which means there are no other places to cut other than staff 02:28:39.000 --> 02:28:44.000 So realistically, you're looking, trying to do math in my head 02:28:44.000 --> 02:28:49.000 20, 25 staff 02:28:49.000 --> 02:28:54.000 That we are going to have to have less than we have now 02:28:54.000 --> 02:28:58.000 And I understand, I'm empathetic with where you're at 02:28:58.000 --> 02:29:03.000 And what you're trying to do, but as a citizen of the district 02:29:03.000 --> 02:29:06.000 And a taxpayer, they're looking at what we're doing 02:29:06.000 --> 02:29:10.000 And saying, well, you know what, you're already going to lose 700 kids 02:29:10.000 --> 02:29:13.000 I mean, that's the other side of that coin 02:29:13.000 --> 02:29:17.000 And I'm not a big proponent of that 02:29:17.000 --> 02:29:19.000 I'm just saying it's realistic 02:29:19.000 --> 02:29:23.000 And I don't want to touch, I don't want to touch any staff 02:29:23.000 --> 02:29:25.000 That is face time with our students 02:29:25.000 --> 02:29:30.000 And I know you're saying that, that's where the, that's where the meat is, that's left 02:29:30.000 --> 02:29:32.000 I do understand that 02:29:32.000 --> 02:29:37.000 I guess just as one board member 02:29:37.000 --> 02:29:40.000 I want to be fiscally responsible 02:29:40.000 --> 02:29:45.000 I want to be able to go to the public and say we've done everything we can 02:29:45.000 --> 02:29:49.000 And when we do decide to go to referendum, I can stand up earnestly 02:29:49.000 --> 02:29:52.000 And ring my cowl bell and say please vote for this 02:29:52.000 --> 02:29:56.000 Because you know what, we don't have any more money 02:29:56.000 --> 02:29:59.000 Megan Miller 02:29:59.000 --> 02:30:04.000 Thank you, so I would first like to echo everything that Joanne said 02:30:04.000 --> 02:30:06.000 I'm entirely the same page 02:30:06.000 --> 02:30:09.000 I'm going to add two additional comments 02:30:09.000 --> 02:30:13.000 One, I just want to commend the administration because I think you brought us a budget 02:30:13.000 --> 02:30:17.000 That was very responsive to the feedback that staff had provided 02:30:17.000 --> 02:30:21.000 And they're the ones who have to execute the vision and budget that we set forth 02:30:21.000 --> 02:30:25.000 So that is one additional reason that I support 02:30:25.000 --> 02:30:27.000 Option D 02:30:27.000 --> 02:30:34.000 And the second comment I'd like to make is for us as a board to exercise some flexibility 02:30:34.000 --> 02:30:37.000 And thinking about the vocabulary that we're using 02:30:37.000 --> 02:30:42.000 When we talk about what the community can or cannot afford 02:30:42.000 --> 02:30:48.000 I as a member of this community wholeheartedly believe that we cannot afford 02:30:48.000 --> 02:30:55.000 To make $1.7 million worth of cuts to the investment in our children 02:30:55.000 --> 02:31:01.000 And I will cite one of many studies on this subject 02:31:01.000 --> 02:31:04.000 Which goes back to the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation 02:31:04.000 --> 02:31:08.000 That for every dollar you invest, particularly in early childhood education 02:31:08.000 --> 02:31:14.000 It yields another $8 in the gross domestic product 02:31:14.000 --> 02:31:18.000 It's particularly to local communities, there's a Kalamazoo study 02:31:18.000 --> 02:31:21.000 There's all these different examples we can look around and see 02:31:21.000 --> 02:31:26.000 So to me, I find it to be extremely fiscally irresponsible 02:31:26.000 --> 02:31:30.000 For us to make unsustainable and frankly untenable cuts 02:31:30.000 --> 02:31:36.000 That are not necessary at this particular moment to our district budget 02:31:36.000 --> 02:31:41.000 So that is why I will continue to fully support Option D 02:31:41.000 --> 02:31:47.000 With the addition of maintaining our library media specialist at 1.0 FTE 02:31:47.000 --> 02:31:49.000 Bill Johnson? 02:31:49.000 --> 02:31:52.000 Thank you for all your work 02:31:52.000 --> 02:31:57.000 I don't want to spend any more, excuse me, old-fed money than we have to 02:31:57.000 --> 02:32:01.000 I know that it's a hard decision, but these are all hard decisions 02:32:01.000 --> 02:32:06.000 And I just don't want to see, you know, a deficit budget 02:32:06.000 --> 02:32:10.000 I know you're doing the best you can 02:32:10.000 --> 02:32:13.000 And it's just, I just can't support it 02:32:19.000 --> 02:32:22.000 Dr. Anderson, any other questions? 02:32:22.000 --> 02:32:23.000 No. 02:32:23.000 --> 02:32:24.000 Okay. 02:32:24.000 --> 02:32:27.000 I just have to make the decision to be real honest 02:32:27.000 --> 02:32:32.000 That I will, I don't know that I can lead your district, I'll be around 02:32:32.000 --> 02:32:35.000 I don't know that I need you to consensus 02:32:35.000 --> 02:32:39.000 I don't know at this point if I'm going to be the right person going forward 02:32:39.000 --> 02:32:44.000 So, and since I don't have a contract for next year, you may have other options 02:32:44.000 --> 02:32:47.000 I'm just going to have to think about that 02:32:47.000 --> 02:32:53.000 So we can, if I can't lead you, it makes no sense for me to be here 02:32:53.000 --> 02:32:59.000 It's just something I have to think about because you need someone who's going to be able to lead and direct 02:32:59.000 --> 02:33:01.000 And right now, I don't know that I can do that 02:33:01.000 --> 02:33:08.000 Thank you for your honesty, Dr. Anderson 02:33:08.000 --> 02:33:15.000 Michelle Shope, would you read the motion on the floor right now? 02:33:15.000 --> 02:33:20.000 I withdraw my motion for reconsideration 02:33:20.000 --> 02:33:24.000 Okay. 02:33:24.000 --> 02:33:27.000 Thank you. 02:33:28.000 --> 02:33:30.000 Our 02:33:33.000 --> 02:33:36.000 Next agenda item is 02:33:36.000 --> 02:33:41.000 Executive Session, a motion may be made and a vote taken to convene the Board of Education 02:33:41.000 --> 02:33:48.000 And a closed session pursuant to Section 19.85 Paran 1 Paran F of the Wisconsin State Statutes 02:33:48.000 --> 02:33:54.000 For the purpose of reviewing the expulsion orders of the Independent Hearing Officer 02:33:54.000 --> 02:34:05.000 Pursuant to Section 120.13 Paran 1 Paran E4 dot H dot of the Wisconsin State Statutes 02:34:05.000 --> 02:34:08.000 The Board of Education shall upon review 02:34:08.000 --> 02:34:14.000 Shall upon review approve reverse or modify orders 02:34:14.000 --> 02:34:16.000 Is there a motion? 02:34:16.000 --> 02:34:18.000 So moved. 02:34:18.000 --> 02:34:19.000 Second 02:34:20.000 --> 02:34:27.000 Motion by Joanne Roo, seconded by Carol Fox, Mrs. Shope 02:34:27.000 --> 02:34:29.000 Dan Schuth 02:34:29.000 --> 02:34:30.000 Aye 02:34:30.000 --> 02:34:31.000 Meghan Miller 02:34:31.000 --> 02:34:32.000 Aye 02:34:32.000 --> 02:34:33.000 Joanne Roo 02:34:33.000 --> 02:34:34.000 Aye 02:34:34.000 --> 02:34:35.000 Bill Johnson 02:34:35.000 --> 02:34:36.000 Aye 02:34:36.000 --> 02:34:37.000 Carol Fox 02:34:37.000 --> 02:34:38.000 Aye 02:34:38.000 --> 02:34:39.000 Tom Hankins 02:34:39.000 --> 02:34:40.000 Aye 02:34:40.000 --> 02:34:42.000 And Tia Johnson 02:34:42.000 --> 02:34:43.000 Aye 02:34:43.000 --> 02:34:45.000 Motion carried unanimously 02:34:45.000 --> 02:34:46.000 Thank you. 02:34:46.000 --> 02:34:54.000 The Board of Education may reconvene to public session in order to take any action if necessary on items discussed in closed session. 02:34:54.000 --> 02:35:00.000 We are going into closed session to review the Independent Hearing Officers expulsion orders. 02:35:00.000 --> 02:35:01.000 Thank you. 02:35:01.000 --> 02:35:02.000 Have a good night. 02:35:15.000 --> 02:35:31.000 Everyone else has left the call. 02:35:45.000 --> 02:35:48.000 Thank you. 02:36:15.000 --> 02:36:18.000 Thank you. 02:36:45.000 --> 02:36:48.000 Thank you.