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Good evening. I'm calling to order the special board meeting of Tuesday, April 14th. Mrs.

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Shope, can we get a roll call? Yes. Carol Fox. Here. Tom Hankins. Amy Levy. Megan Miller.

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Present. Brian Nichols. Here. Joanne Ruhl. Here. And Tia Johnson. Here. All members are present

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except Tom Hankins and Amy Levy. Thank you. May I get an approval of the agenda? Second.

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Motion by Joanne Ruhl. Seconded by Brian Nichols. Any discussion? All in favor? Aye. Aye. Aye. Any

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opposed? Motion carries unanimously. Tonight we have a workshop style meeting and our first item

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we're going to discuss is a budget guidance. The purpose of this is to have the board provide

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guidance to the administration to develop a comprehensive written 26, 20, 27 budget plan. We

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started this discussion at the last regular board meeting and Mrs. Fox has updated the

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recommended guidance to district administration. Mrs. Fox, do you want to walk us through some of

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your changes? Yeah, the changes aren't terribly significant, but I did. I wanted to sort out, you

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know, what really we were talking in terms of what our priorities might be. And so I kind of put

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those at the top. And if anybody wants to add anything, but I put the maintaining existing pupil

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teacher ratio guidelines preserving the staff retention and recruitment by providing the 2.63 CPI

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increase and prioritizing district programs and initiatives that help drive our student enrollment,

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like the academy's model and the DLI programs. So then the next section is, you know, some of the

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documentation that would be needed in order to make some good decisions. And that's pretty much the

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same. But it's, you know, the written, written plans, comprehensive lists of attendance contracts,

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the plan for the legal services and IT services, etc. So that wasn't changed. I did put the, you

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know, short term, the facilities things kind of at the end. And I think I'd explain that the last time

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is like, you know, facility, especially selling facilities takes time and effort and may not be

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helpful to us at the, in the short term, maybe a little bit in the long term. But, and then again,

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a recommendation that a district finance committee be, be formed so that stakeholders have more

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opportunity to weigh in on what some of these decisions are, and make recommendations.

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Thank you. And the district finance committee is not a board ad hoc committee, correct?

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Correct. No, that is just a district committee. So it has, there's another name for it. But it's,

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it's less formal. And you can have a whole bunch of different people on it without having to

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have board approval every time you want to do something.

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Megan. Thank you so much. Are you able to hear me? Okay.

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Perfect. Okay. Thank you. Ms. Foch, this is beautiful. Thank you so much for taking the time

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to incorporate the feedback that, you know, we discussed like last week and just, this is really

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well organized. I really appreciate the thoughtfulness that went into this. The only other thing I would,

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I'm on the wrong screen here. Here we go. Looking at documentation, excuse me,

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I love that you are looking for a written staffing plan as well as program plans. I am curious,

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I guess in your vision, Ms. Fochs, and certainly anybody else, where do you think like some process

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reporting or like audits for like our current HR practices and things like that might live?

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Just because I know it's very expensive to recruit new staff and like we've gotten,

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I think it came up at this last meeting and it's come up at other meetings,

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some ongoing feedback that there are issues, I guess, with maybe the process or pipeline of

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how we recruit staff. I mean, I'm going to just kind of pause there, Ms. Fochs, for your thoughts or feedback.

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I think they can live in conjunction with some of this. Some of the things that we're thinking

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about changing may need more time and be looking, you know, we got two things going on here,

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the one we've got to get ready for next year and then beyond that, you know, the tail of two

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budgets, he said. So as we continue to work on budgets, we do need to be looking at processes

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for sure. We may need to get a little more into what we need to do for next year's budget more

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quickly because we need to take some decisions quickly. But that doesn't mean we ignore that

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other stuff. Does that answer your question or get to what you're driving it?

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No, absolutely. And I guess I just wanted to make sure that like, you know,

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sometimes like this is really, I think you did a really good job explaining and detailing all

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this. I want to make sure sometimes when people hear like staffing plan, we think we're talking

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about the same thing, but we're talking about different things, you know. So I just just to

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clarify, I wanted to make sure that that's sort of like in orbit of what your your concept is here.

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And I agree with you, it's going to take time to work on some of those processes. I think we

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just did a good stewards of not just financially, you know, just all of our district resources and

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respecting people and their time and their desire to work in the district. That should just be sort

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of part of this discussion. The only other thing, I was looking at, now I just lost my train of

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up though. Sorry. Oh, there it is. You know what, let me pause and I just want to hear from other

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people because I don't want to dominate them. But I did have a little bit of, if you could

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you circle back to new board president Johnson at some point? Sure thing. And this is the workshop.

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So we're just talking through things. Joanne, did you have any thoughts on this?

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So is it just thoughts about this recommended guidance document at this point? Or are we discussing

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the other things that Dr. Anderson brought up that he would like for us to say, yes, explore this

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option or? I have that one as the next agenda item. But if any of them you feel applied to this

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or should be incorporated, let us know. No, I'll save mine for that agenda item, I guess.

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Brian? I agree with Board Member Roo. I'll wait till we get to the other section.

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Okay. Yeah, and I'll echo Megan Miller. I thank you, Carol, for doing this. I really appreciate it.

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The develop and update a short and long term facilities plan to respond to facilities and

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maintenance needs. I think one of the things that we need to decide probably sooner rather than later

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and this hopefully will involve some community discussion and dialogue. But

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are we going to start closing schools and which ones make sense? We're going to have to consolidate.

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I know people don't relish the idea of having to close more schools, but it's the reality of

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the situation we're in. I agree. I also was looking back at reviewing what we discussed and what

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the questions are. It's like, do we let the roof go on these two schools? Because I know it's a

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million dollars, but do we look for other ways to cover that? Because I'm not sure we want to

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let that go. But we were just at the Eldridge parking lot the other day, and

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you know what? That parking lot needs to be begun. And how long do we not do those things and make

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our facilities worse? I don't know what else to say, but we can't let our facilities go either

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until we sell them. We can let them grow then, I guess. Megan?

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Thank you so much. Okay. Thank you so much. Sorry. I double clicked there. My apologies.

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Thank you for bringing up the school building potential closure piece. I'm really glad that

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even though I understand this facts, what your intention was with the facilities notes that you

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made. I think that's really important just to keep that in the conversation, because of course,

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that would make a dramatic impact, not just on our kids, right, but just on the entire city.

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So since you clarified that our next agenda item will be just to go through those delineated

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questions, I guess I have three more sort of just like broad topics that I think should be part

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of the conversation that we don't necessarily need to deep dive into. One, building off really off

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what President Johnson is saying. And I think I brought this up last time too. I think we also,

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in addition to this guidance, as a board need to be prepared to work with the administration

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to put together some kind of a communication plan. Now that could miss Fox, like I'm not exactly

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sure the scope of work that you're envisioning for the finance committee that certainly could dovetail

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and be part of the same kind of initiative. But as a board, I think we need to be very intentional

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like right now about setting a calendar for like where and how frequently will we be

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putting together, whether it's around table or just listening sessions to get people's feedback,

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whether it's about the budget, whether it's about potential referendum stuff. I think it's a bit

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premature. I'm not saying like next week, I love that we're doing this tonight. So we can really,

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everybody can get on the same page, at least in a large level, so that we can take something

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to community and say, hey, so here's the scope of what we're looking at. We really want to hear

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from you. Also, like here's some amazing things that are happening that we would like to continue

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to fund, et cetera, right? So I do think that within the next few weeks, it would be responsible

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for us to put together some kind of communication plan in partnership with not just the board,

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but with our administration as well. So that's one broad piece, another broad piece. I remembered

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my train of thought from last time. I know that this is not ideal, but in the spirit of a tail of

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two budgets, I'm going to throw a third concept in there just to spunk it up. Short-term borrowing

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is not fun. It's not ideal. It's not terribly responsible, right? Because we end up paying interest.

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When it, I think as part of our feedback that we get from the community, we have to kind of keep

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that in orbit. Maybe it's far in orbit, but if push comes to shove and there is some kind of harm

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that could potentially come to children, maybe it's like a program that deals with nutrition or

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whatever it might be. I think I would really like to hear from Dr. Anderson and Ms. Ellwood and the

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team about, and I realize it's not something we want to do, but if for some reason we had to

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incorporate that in, what a good range or what our expectations should be for how best to

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utilize that option. I'm not saying right now that we should utilize that option, but I think it would

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be responsible for us to have considered it and to think about if we did this, how would that

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factor into the next three, five, et cetera, years down the road because that has long-term

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impacts. So I did just want to bring that up. And then the last thing I just want to throw in here

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before we get into the next agenda item, just because it's specifically reflected on this

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extremely beautiful document that I absolutely love. Thank you again. Just like urging us to

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think creatively too, so I don't want to mislead people by saying, here's how we're going to avoid

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ever closing a school again. At the same time, I also don't want to limit ourselves. So I think

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if we could just adopt a mentality of as we're looking at these very difficult choices that we

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will absolutely have to make, asking the question, what possibility, even if it feels like a long

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shot, would there be to be creative about mitigating harm to kids in these cuts? For example,

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with our DLI situation, we had asked that, or I call Dr. Henderson and Carol, you were in that

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conversation too, just to ask, could we reach out to the DPI to see if there's potential for a

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waiver that has yet to be determined? The answer might be no, we don't know. But I really am so

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grateful to Dr. Anderson and all the administration that's helping him do that work, that he's even

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making the effort and getting something out there and creating a possibility where we thought,

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like, maybe there was no possibility. So again, I want to be really careful about misleading

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people. I don't want the message to be, oh, we're going to have like all these magic creative

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solutions and nothing will be cut. But at the same time, I just don't want to make sure we're not

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limiting ourselves. So those are all of the kind of the pieces that I wanted to just sort of like,

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you know, weave into the conversation. And again, just a lot of gratitude for the work that you put

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into this and for everything that people shared tonight. Thank you, Megan. Mr. Hankins, we are

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looking at the recommended guidance to district administration in response to

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potential budget shortfall. Would you like to make any comments or have any questions?

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I can excuse my absence. I'll have to tell now, but so I heard a little bit of what Megan was

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talking about. Where are we at? We're just at the, you know, and looking at this piece.

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We're looking at, do we, as a board, agree this is a document that we should give Dr. Anderson,

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so he can work with the administration. Understanding these are the priorities of this board.

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Thank you. I understand that. So this was draft was developed by Carol Fox and other people.

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And we're approving, because I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, I guess I'm catching up,

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there were some tweaks to it. So this is kind of a different, but it's kind of the same thing.

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So are we looking for, yes, I know I have no more questions. Thank you.

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Anything you wanted to add or any other suggestions?

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Well, if you allow me,

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it's a workshop style meeting. So thank you. Get it off your chest.

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Okay. So I just want to go back to our last meeting, and there were several items on our

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agenda that we did not address that Dr. Anderson, I believe, wanted us to address.

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And there was like four or five bullet points. Yep. And that's the next agenda. That's not part

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of this. Right. Right. Yeah. You know, right. But I'll say to you the same thing I said to Joanne,

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if there's anything on those on Dr. Anderson's questions, bullet points that you want incorporated

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or embedded in this, let us know now. That is not this. Right. Thank you. No, I have no more

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questions. Okay. May I say, though, that when I looked at that list, there are some things that

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I think, you know, might be part of one of these things that, you know, we may, we might just say,

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well, that, you know, when we're looking at that, we want that to kind of go back and be part of a

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bigger picture. Okay. Go ahead, Joanne.

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So just listening to what Megan was saying, something that stuck out to me was a communication

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plan. And as boards change, I've, especially in doing the dual language decision making,

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there's holes where we don't have communication with different groups in our community. And so,

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I love the idea of really thinking about our communication plan and maybe, like,

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figuring out what those groups might be and how we can, as a board, as a district,

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make sure that we're listening to all those different voices too when we're making these

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decisions. Thank you, Joanne. Anyone else?

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Tia for me. Go ahead. And just, you know, not say anything against what my colleague, Joanne,

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said, but type of the essence, and we have to make a lot of decisions really quick.

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And, you know, to, yes, we'd all like to have community involvement in doing this and doing that,

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and I'm with that. But we are at what, April 14th right now, and we have decision-making for

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athletic department by May 1st. We have referendum questions, but we all know that. So,

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community involvement is very important. I agree, but we have to temper that with

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getting our business done. Thank you. So, this being a workshop, I can

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respond. Yes, the referendum question, absolutely, we need community involvement, though. Like,

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right now, yep, May 1st come and tick-tock, but the bigger stuff, like, I think that will help us

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in the long run. I think it's very, very important. I've already made some context,

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so I'm trying to work on it from my end, but I think it's a group problem, like, a group

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project if you will, so maybe we can figure something out. Can I just, I think that is one of the

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beauties of a district committee, because you have representation from, or should have representation

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from every building, every grade level, you know, involve parents, and then those people's

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tasks would be to go back and make sure that that information is shared with their building

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and with other stakeholders, and then you start involving community members as well.

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And so, that's a good way to start sharing information and having it disseminate.

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Was that what we had when we passed that? The referendum, our last referendum that passed,

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is that what we had, Carol, because you were, were you, you were still? No? No? No? Does anyone

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know? Michelle, do you know? Is that what we had? Because we, I mean, we, we had a huge group of

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people that, like, went into all the different schools, that went into the library, had all these

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different roundtables, and it wasn't the superintendent. It was firefighters and police officers and

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PTO presidents and things like that. I believe that was a group independent of the school

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district of Deloitte, because we can't do that. Board members on their free time. No, no, I'm not

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okay. Right, right, right, but I'm just, I'm letting, I'm letting board members know, and

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new board members, incoming board members, on our free time, when we're not wearing our board

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member hat, and we're individual citizens, we can promote or advocate one way or another,

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but when, when we're board members, and when we are administrators for the district employees,

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you cannot. So, so, yes, there are different community groups that are,

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in your quotes, the yes groups or the no groups and more power to all of them.

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So, again, just for information sharing, you know, you, you get your groups going and they can

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share information. We're not talking about, we're talking about budget cuts and things like that,

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not necessarily a referendum thing, but referendum makes it a different level.

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But information sharing and talking about, you know, direction of what we want for our district,

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that's a different thing.

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Correct. And, and I don't know of any groups that went to any libraries or anything to talk

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about our budget unless it was a referendum. So, Carol, do you mind if we ask to have

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incorporated another item for developing a communication plan, and then Mrs. Shope have this on next

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Tuesday's regular board meeting for approval?

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No, that's fine. To present to the district administration?

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Yeah, that's fine.

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Okay. Tom?

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Yeah, I just have one question and maybe it was covered.

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Ms. Fox and Tia, was this run by admin, i.e. Leah and Dr. Wayne, you know, these, you know,

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it's just something that we're asking them to do.

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At the last board meeting, and I'm sorry, Dr. Malan, I did not ask you your opinion.

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I figured you would have jumped in if you wanted to say something.

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And do you have any things that you wanted to add or any questions or?

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Okay. Tom, does that answer your question?

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Yes, it does. I just want to make sure. I mean, we are separate. We are together.

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Thank you. Yeah. Okay. Oh, Megan?

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Thank you so much. I'll be brief. I just just, I really enjoyed like the last conversation

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there, and I just think a nice way to sort of braid, braid those kind of those different

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conversations together is just under the larger concept, right, that like the budget is a tool

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that funds a vision. So while we may not in the past have gone out to the community to say,

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hey, here's what we're going to cut. What do you think? I think if we frame it as,

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what is given the scarcity of resources we have? What is the vision that you want to see?

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Like, what should we fund, right? Because the budget should be shaped around and the mechanism

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of forwarding that vision. So to that point, I do think it's important to get community input.

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And maybe as we move forward to it, the superintendent selection, it's a nice way,

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and I'll just use this word again, to braid together community feedback on superintendent

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pieces, right, but potential referendum, and the inevitability of some big budget changes

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that are going to happen. Also, Dr. Molot, thank you so much for getting the staff survey out to

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folks. And assuming that like what we put forward from a board perspective, like this document,

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is that going to go in tandem with feedback that you get from staff? Or is that something that we

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need to include in our document? I'm assuming it's the former not the letter.

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We have that available if you would like it.

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So is that something that like you'll be, I mean, you obviously have received that feedback,

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is that something, I mean, we would love to see it, I'm assuming as a board, I certainly would.

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But that's not something you need us to put into this document, like for the purposes of today.

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We'd be happy to share it with you today. Sounds great, thanks.

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Okay, thank you. So our next item is the one that Joanne, I think you want to talk to,

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and this is the 2026-2027 budget. On Monday, March 30th, Dr. Anderson reviewed different budget

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options with the board for balancing the 26-27 budget. This board discussion is to provide

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administration with how they would like to proceed budgeting in the following areas.

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Does the board want administration to add 100,000 to athletic budgets so that all current athletic

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teams can operate at the 2526 level, or does the board want to have administration work with

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Dan Graz to reduce our current athletic offerings so that it can operate under the budget levels

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established for the 2425 and 2526 levels. Vacant properties, does the board want to sell vacant

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properties currently owned but not being used by the district? Fund 80, does the board want to

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proceed with using fund 80 as a means to provide after-school programming for local students at

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boys and girls clubs? Legal counsel, does the board want to create a job description and posting

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to move forward with hiring an in-house attorney to assist the district with current and future

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legal assistance? Communications director, does the board want to restore or create a new position

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to deal with district communications and OPEB funds? Does the board want administration to use OPEB

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funds to help balance any projected budget shortfall for the 26-27 school year budget or does it want

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to retain these funds to help alleviate projected shortfalls in the 27-28 budget? If the second

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option is chosen then additional reductions will need to be made to existing staff and programming.

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Mrs. Elwood, was there anything that you wanted to add before we jump into discussion?

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Just that we do have prepared tonight the survey that has gone out. If you want to go through

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that first or if you want to wait and do that after. Yeah, let's go through that first thing.

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So that's a lot a lot I'm not sure if you want to speak or don't. I think we can just do it

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in tandem I think. So we were asked to put together a survey for our staff. This survey went out to

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all district staff. I believe we got about 290 total responses so this went out to our

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SCB staff so not the AGS staff or Chartwell staff just our our SCB staff groups

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on the survey. You can see it's broken down by grade level or excuse me school bans sorry

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elementary middle high school and district office.

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And this was by groups by the major groups that responded the majority of the responses were from

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teachers. In our survey we asked what the district's top priority should be when making

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budget reductions we asked staff to choose their top two. So the priorities were

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protect classroom instructions with 122 responses, maintain student support services

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at 156 responses, preserve class size, 92 responses, maintain extracurriculars, 44 responses I think

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I can't read that. And retain staff positions 114 responses and then not too far out of the box

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was maintain facilities operations. And then the remainder of the responses were people filling

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in the other and this kind of summarizes what the main ideas were from people.

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I ask a question. What does it mean retaining staff positions when we talk about we're talking

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about protecting classroom instructions and preserving manageable class sizes and maintaining

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student support. And then what else I mean retaining staff positions is what else.

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Retaining staff positions would be the positions that we already have staff in so not cutting

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positions that we already have staff employed in. So that would be looking differently from

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reducing the positions that we have not filled.

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How is what was the question? How was it framed?

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This is the question. In your opinion what should be the district's top priority when making

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budget reductions and retaining staff positions was one of the items that they can choose to of.

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What are the things at the bottom of that? I wasn't understanding the rest of that slide.

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So there was an option for other. So that was where people okay so because some of these look

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exactly the preserve prioritize class size is listed again. So is retained staff class size like

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it's the same things isn't it or are they just people commented and some of them were the same

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ideas over and over again yes and that's why we did kind of the summary here but the majority

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of staff were looking to keep the staff that we currently have. So it was basically

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a force choice to pick two out of six things and the rest I mean they they picked two out of those

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one one two three six things that's it that was the survey no no this is one question out of the

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multiple questions. Oh we're not okay we're just getting so they could take two out of those six

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things yeah this is just one question of I think there were ten okay ten or twelve ten or twelve

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okay. So this is the second question.

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So out of all the budget reduction strategies which were the ones that people were supporting

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and the biggest support was for non-essential funding such as travel material subscriptions

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reducing central office or administrative costs and eliminating unfilled or vacant

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commercials.

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I was trying to get on my microphone but too many mics were on fire. I'm sorry Michelle.

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Is it did the staff have an opportunity to write their thoughts or is this just a check this check

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that? No this one also had the option to to write in an other and that's all the all of the

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other ones on the bottom that have one person the ones that have the most responses are the ones

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that were pre-filled and then the other is all of the responses and this doesn't have all the

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responses obviously because it was super long so these are just a sample of some of the things

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that people found. To reduce non-essential what had 64 percent?

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The funding.

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And we can provide you with the what the survey actually looked like too.

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I guess I didn't realize that I had cut it off so much when I copied it.

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Is it possible to get all the comments to that bottom part?

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Yes okay I have it in Excel spreadsheet it's pretty lengthy.

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Okay and this one reflects the support that people have through reducing positions through

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attrition not through.

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The next one here talks about or is an opinion on what is most important to

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to consider when making our staffing decisions,

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they have the option to pick two.

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So minimizing layoffs, of course,

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and maintaining student to staff ratio,

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protecting high need students,

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retaining highly effective staff,

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and seniority considerations,

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and then continuation of programming.

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And again, all the ones with one were right in.

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I have a question, but it's on point,

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but it's kind of going back to attrition.

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And let's look to 26, 27.

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What does that number look like?

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I mean, for retirees, and I know that we figured,

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there's maybe not a hard number,

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but at least a percent that we know won't be coming back.

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Has that been out already,

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what the teachers have to come back?

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Thank you.

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Yes, we did send that survey out earlier

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in this calendar year.

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I can look up if you give me a few minutes

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what the percentage in those results were

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so that I can give you an accurate number.

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Thank you.

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That's always helpful.

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In the comments about using attrition

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to reduce our budget and not having the right staff

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in place is a valid comment,

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because if you need a high school technology teacher

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because somebody retired and not replacing that person

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because we need to cover budget shortfall,

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but we still need a teacher in that classroom,

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but doesn't really work.

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So yeah, we need to do some give and take

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with the retirement.

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No, I completely understand.

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I'm going back to Ad Hock when Ms. Hock's was running that

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and it was the Swiss cheese effect, you know that.

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So it sticks my mind, I totally agree

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just because we lost through attrition,

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a position doesn't mean that we don't have to backfill it.

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This next question was about program and service considerations.

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And which items that people wanted to protect the most

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last on the list for reductions?

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And the highest number was core academic instruction.

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And that has to be our most protected area

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because if we don't have a core academic instruction,

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that's what has to be the focus of our school district.

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But the other two areas that they have,

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a strong opinion on about specialized services

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and student mental health should be noted here as well.

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And the next question was regarding school health services.

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And again, the survey results show very strong support

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for our school health services.

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And this next question was about if the reductions

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in health services was considered.

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Which approach would you support?

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And let's see, reorganization was high on the list

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or shared services.

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And then the next was making minimal reductions

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with careful prioritization.

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The next one was school safety and security.

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And again, you can see that they have very high priority

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with school safety and security.

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They value that as extremely important.

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Again, the next one is safety and security.

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And if reductions in school safety and security

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were considered, which approach would you support?

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And they overwhelmingly avoid reductions whenever possible.

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And then make minimal reductions with careful prioritization.

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So essentially keeping our kids safe

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wherever we possibly can.

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So overall our school staff, our STB staff views

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that safety and health services,

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very important critical pieces of our students day.

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And the next section is technology planning.

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It was interesting to see how many people

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were in support of moving away from a one-to-one model.

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41% reduced the number of devices shared use models

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and 35% to phase and replacement over multiple years.

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The, it was interesting to see that they're more focused

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at the elementary level of removing that one-to-one model.

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Just a suggestion that if we do move to a different model

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that we'll have to take into account curriculum needs

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at those levels as well because there's been

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another curriculum development that have been

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dependent on those technologies.

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And the next question was kind of an open-ended,

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cost-saving ideas and suggestions.

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It was a, just give us your ideas.

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And this was kind of a summary of the items that came back.

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Sorry, does anybody have any questions on any of these?

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I'm a slow reader, so I'm just laughing

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because I'm gonna have to just look at this later on

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and be able to sit and really look through it.

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One question on that last slide.

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I thought we are no longer using Fort NGL for academies.

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Is that true or not?

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They've been using it.

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They've been using it as an outside contracted services still.

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I'm not sure as far as outside contracted service,

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but I know they're still using the academy model,

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but I thought they were no longer.

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There was a payment for Fort NGL this year.

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I can't tell you the exact amount,

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but I think it was under the 25,000.

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Okay.

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Did you want to talk about the entire one?

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Yes.

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So in, excuse me, in response to Board Member Hagen's question,

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when we sent out the intent to return survey

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out of the 726 total staff that we have 464 responses

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were captured of which nine identified their intent

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to retire, eight their intent to resign,

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417 their intent to return.

423
00:43:50,140 --> 00:43:51,460
Thank you.

424
00:43:51,460 --> 00:43:55,340
Does that kind of fall in mind with normal years,

425
00:43:55,340 --> 00:43:56,260
those numbers?

426
00:43:56,260 --> 00:43:57,500
You don't have to be exact.

427
00:43:59,340 --> 00:44:02,180
I think sometimes our staff suffers a little bit

428
00:44:02,180 --> 00:44:07,180
from survey fatigue, and so I think

429
00:44:07,220 --> 00:44:12,220
that the approximate 57% response rate is very positive

430
00:44:13,340 --> 00:44:15,580
compared to some of our other surveys.

431
00:44:15,580 --> 00:44:16,740
I agree with that.

432
00:44:16,740 --> 00:44:18,860
You know, and then I go back to, you know,

433
00:44:18,860 --> 00:44:20,500
in policy and at the border, we just,

434
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,980
we did the exhibit A and the amount of resignations

435
00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:27,540
that happened, you know, who obviously somebody thought

436
00:44:27,540 --> 00:44:31,020
coming, but you know, is that captured in the numbers

437
00:44:31,020 --> 00:44:34,340
that you're just told us, and I'm not asking, you know,

438
00:44:34,340 --> 00:44:37,180
no, I mean, you don't know, it just happens.

439
00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:38,860
Some people are very organized

440
00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:40,500
and they have their life planned out enough

441
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:43,060
where they know back in January or February

442
00:44:43,060 --> 00:44:45,220
what they're doing for next year.

443
00:44:45,220 --> 00:44:47,220
Others are still considering their options

444
00:44:47,220 --> 00:44:51,020
so they do not respond, and then we see exhibit A

445
00:44:51,020 --> 00:44:54,580
where we have a considerable amount of resignations

446
00:44:54,580 --> 00:44:57,220
or retirements that are not captured in the survey.

447
00:44:58,220 --> 00:44:59,220
Okay, thank you.

448
00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:21,220
So these next couple slides, it's really tiny and I apologize.

449
00:45:21,220 --> 00:45:26,220
I did ask for the survey to give me some summaries

450
00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:28,420
of all the different areas

451
00:45:28,420 --> 00:45:30,260
and that's what's on the next two slides here

452
00:45:30,260 --> 00:45:32,660
and we'll make sure that you guys get a copy of those.

453
00:45:32,660 --> 00:45:57,940
I have a question and maybe this might be a question

454
00:45:57,940 --> 00:46:06,380
for Rob or Lauren, our legal counsel, one of these

455
00:46:06,380 --> 00:46:08,860
that jumped out at me, several responses suggested

456
00:46:08,860 --> 00:46:11,900
holding parents and students financially responsible

457
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:15,980
for repairs and replacement of damage devices.

458
00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:21,140
And I wonder if it is that limited to just the devices

459
00:46:21,140 --> 00:46:25,220
or damage things sometimes when students, you know,

460
00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:29,020
are escalated and having a safe episode,

461
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:34,660
they might destroy sometimes staff members' personal effects.

462
00:46:34,660 --> 00:46:41,060
Can we legally require parents to be financially accountable

463
00:46:41,060 --> 00:46:42,420
for that stuff?

464
00:46:42,420 --> 00:46:44,700
So in the case of where, say, for example,

465
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:47,060
a student breaks a window in a school, yes,

466
00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:51,300
we do build a family, we go through the police department

467
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:54,300
and a fine as a staff, basically,

468
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:57,180
and typically we do get those paid back.

469
00:46:57,180 --> 00:46:59,060
In the cases of the Chromebooks,

470
00:46:59,060 --> 00:47:02,740
we do charge a fee for a lost Chromebook.

471
00:47:02,740 --> 00:47:05,540
A lot of the repairs and maintenance type things are covered

472
00:47:05,540 --> 00:47:07,780
in our warranty or our in-house repairs

473
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:09,620
and we don't charge those to the student.

474
00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:14,420
A lot significant, like if they destroyed the Chromebooks

475
00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:18,780
then yes, we will charge the family a fee.

476
00:47:18,780 --> 00:47:23,060
And say a teacher had a coat on their chair

477
00:47:23,060 --> 00:47:25,420
and a student destroyed that coat.

478
00:47:25,420 --> 00:47:32,420
Does the district go after the parent for the cost of the coat?

479
00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:36,980
Those kinds of situations, I'm not sure if we do or not.

480
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:39,260
I'm just the bigger ones.

481
00:47:39,260 --> 00:47:40,420
OK, thank you.

482
00:47:40,420 --> 00:47:41,420
Thank you.

483
00:47:49,260 --> 00:47:52,380
And I think this is the second page of the summary.

484
00:47:52,380 --> 00:48:22,260
Are there any questions or comments, thoughts,

485
00:48:22,260 --> 00:48:23,260
anybody want?

486
00:48:36,780 --> 00:48:39,100
Sorry, I have my hand up if that's OK.

487
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,660
Sorry, thanks.

488
00:48:40,660 --> 00:48:42,820
No, I mean, I'm like, Joanne, I need a minute

489
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:46,100
to read and consider and process.

490
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:47,700
I think before I say anything that's

491
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:52,100
like incredibly of value, but I do truly appreciate this.

492
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:53,980
At the turnaround time from administration

493
00:48:53,980 --> 00:48:55,860
to put this out was outstanding.

494
00:48:55,860 --> 00:48:59,380
And this has just been such a valuable addition

495
00:48:59,380 --> 00:49:00,340
to this discussion.

496
00:49:00,340 --> 00:49:02,020
And so I just wanted to say thank you.

497
00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:09,740
Thank you, Stephanie and Dr. Malat for doing that,

498
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:11,540
especially on such short notice.

499
00:49:11,540 --> 00:49:14,180
We really appreciate that.

500
00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:16,220
One of the things that I do.

501
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:17,540
The Beavers help with that as well.

502
00:49:17,540 --> 00:49:19,740
Oh, thank you, the Beavers and Almond Dares help

503
00:49:19,740 --> 00:49:23,180
end with Almond Dares.

504
00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:28,460
Thank you, all cabinet members, and Brett Berg.

505
00:49:28,460 --> 00:49:36,620
The district has a policy, 343.2, which is class size.

506
00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:43,140
The student teacher class sizes listed below

507
00:49:43,140 --> 00:49:44,980
are intended to serve as guidelines

508
00:49:44,980 --> 00:49:47,540
for determining staffing needs within the school district

509
00:49:47,580 --> 00:49:50,580
to avoid the Board of Education and Administration

510
00:49:50,580 --> 00:49:52,980
will make every effort to implement the policy

511
00:49:52,980 --> 00:49:55,660
within the constraints of the budget space and staff

512
00:49:55,660 --> 00:50:03,020
available elementary levels, 3K to 3.

513
00:50:03,020 --> 00:50:13,300
It is 22 to 1 or 30 to 2 average goal for 4 to 5,

514
00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:16,820
grades 4 to 5, it's 30 to 1 average.

515
00:50:16,820 --> 00:50:19,020
For middle school, the core classes

516
00:50:19,020 --> 00:50:23,900
is 30 to 1 average, electives are 30 to 1 average,

517
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:26,940
and a 15 to 1 minimum.

518
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:30,460
And Friday ad is a 30 to 1 average.

519
00:50:30,460 --> 00:50:34,660
High school education classes are a 30 to 1 average,

520
00:50:34,660 --> 00:50:37,740
and a 15 to 1 minimum.

521
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:42,700
I'm wondering, do we know how many high school classes

522
00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:45,900
or middle school elective classes that we have

523
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:51,220
that have fewer than 15 students is my first question?

524
00:50:51,220 --> 00:50:54,420
And then my second question is, do we

525
00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:58,740
know how closely we are adhering to this policy?

526
00:50:58,740 --> 00:51:00,860
And I understand these are averages and goals.

527
00:51:07,460 --> 00:51:10,980
So the last time that we looked at the offerings

528
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:13,380
for electives at the high school and middle school,

529
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:16,580
they were still working on building out

530
00:51:16,580 --> 00:51:17,860
their master's schedule.

531
00:51:17,860 --> 00:51:22,140
So we didn't have definitive numbers of students

532
00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:24,900
that would be interested in participating

533
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:29,100
to see what we could cut, if anything.

534
00:51:29,100 --> 00:51:29,600
OK.

535
00:51:35,380 --> 00:51:38,700
That's why we need a staffing plan, right?

536
00:51:38,700 --> 00:51:40,180
I mean, that's how you figure out

537
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:46,660
where what the class sizes are and where the issues are not,

538
00:51:46,660 --> 00:51:51,540
because we have declining enrollment.

539
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:54,500
So my understanding is that we have

540
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:56,500
lost since the beginning of the year to the end of the year.

541
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,060
We lost about 100 students.

542
00:51:59,060 --> 00:52:03,100
So at some point, that does translate to classroom teachers

543
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:08,860
that even though we can keep it under these qualifications

544
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:13,820
and restrictions, the other thing we might need to consider

545
00:52:13,820 --> 00:52:16,620
is raising the minimum, if we need

546
00:52:16,620 --> 00:52:21,820
to be doing some cutting, which we need to do.

547
00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:24,500
But without looking at the staffing plan

548
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:30,660
and what projected numbers we are having to roll up and look at,

549
00:52:30,660 --> 00:52:33,020
it's very hard to make those kinds of judgments.

550
00:52:33,020 --> 00:52:36,940
But you should be able to say we ought to be able to decrease

551
00:52:36,940 --> 00:52:40,660
by so many teachers in such and such an area

552
00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:42,580
based on projected enrollment.

553
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:49,420
Oh, certainly.

554
00:52:49,420 --> 00:52:51,620
Go ahead, Brian.

555
00:52:51,620 --> 00:52:52,820
That brings up a good question.

556
00:52:52,820 --> 00:52:58,100
So where are we in actual people enrollment

557
00:52:58,100 --> 00:52:59,180
since the first of the year?

558
00:53:02,540 --> 00:53:05,580
I knew one of you three would have it, if not two of you.

559
00:53:36,940 --> 00:53:37,940
OK.

560
00:53:45,940 --> 00:53:53,940
As of yesterday, our current enrollment is 4733.

561
00:53:53,940 --> 00:53:57,900
And how does that compare to the last one?

562
00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,740
The third Friday count.

563
00:54:00,740 --> 00:54:02,220
I don't have that number right in front of me.

564
00:54:02,220 --> 00:54:04,060
But if you give me a second, I can probably

565
00:54:04,220 --> 00:54:06,060
do have that number.

566
00:54:10,260 --> 00:54:13,420
Third Friday count versus enrollment.

567
00:54:13,420 --> 00:54:14,740
Oh, yeah, I'm sorry.

568
00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:15,180
I'm sorry.

569
00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:15,660
You're right.

570
00:54:15,660 --> 00:54:18,260
Just no, actual enrollment.

571
00:54:18,260 --> 00:54:21,100
Actual enrollment right now is 4733.

572
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:23,540
No, what was it at the beginning of the school year?

573
00:54:23,540 --> 00:54:25,900
At the end of September, when I didn't count?

574
00:54:25,900 --> 00:54:39,620
At the end of September, I will give you September 22nd, 4,842.

575
00:54:39,620 --> 00:54:40,620
OK.

576
00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:42,620
That's over 100 students.

577
00:54:42,620 --> 00:54:43,620
Yep.

578
00:54:43,620 --> 00:54:44,620
Yep.

579
00:54:44,620 --> 00:54:45,620
OK.

580
00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:46,620
Thank you.

581
00:54:47,620 --> 00:54:56,620
Are we ready for the care of thoughts and all that?

582
00:54:56,620 --> 00:54:57,620
OK.

583
00:54:57,620 --> 00:55:06,620
So after our last meeting, budget is not my strong suit, and I didn't say much.

584
00:55:06,620 --> 00:55:11,620
And so I figure if I just say stuff at the beginning, then I won't check it out.

585
00:55:11,620 --> 00:55:15,620
So these are the things that I reflected on.

586
00:55:15,620 --> 00:55:18,060
We passed the Hendrix proposal.

587
00:55:18,060 --> 00:55:19,940
We almost passed the last referendum.

588
00:55:19,940 --> 00:55:24,500
We've got millions and millions already.

589
00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:33,860
And I think our community is seeing that we are trying and are willing to invest in

590
00:55:33,860 --> 00:55:35,580
us now as a district.

591
00:55:35,580 --> 00:55:38,860
And so we've got this OPEB money.

592
00:55:38,860 --> 00:55:44,940
I think we need to do a Hail Mary and use it, listening to that gentleman that drove

593
00:55:44,940 --> 00:55:54,940
up from Rockford about how cutting sports affected his classmates, that has an impact.

594
00:55:54,940 --> 00:56:02,940
All the classes that our students come here for, we want to keep them here.

595
00:56:02,940 --> 00:56:09,020
We've got a lot of stuff going on that are good things, and there is nothing that is

596
00:56:09,020 --> 00:56:12,060
low hanging fruit anymore for us to cut.

597
00:56:12,060 --> 00:56:16,940
So Dr. Anderson asked us, look at these things.

598
00:56:16,940 --> 00:56:20,700
I think absolutely we need to look at Fund 80 for the Boys and Girls Club.

599
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:23,380
We need to look at having a lawyer for our district.

600
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:25,900
We need to sell that vacant land.

601
00:56:25,900 --> 00:56:30,340
And I think the sports thing, we say yes this year, but then we need to have a real budget

602
00:56:30,340 --> 00:56:38,860
for it next year, and not ever do that again, because $100,000 over when it didn't work

603
00:56:38,860 --> 00:56:44,220
last year, we should have caught this before this point to know it wasn't going to work

604
00:56:44,220 --> 00:56:45,220
this year.

605
00:56:45,220 --> 00:56:48,860
So those are all my thoughts.

606
00:56:48,860 --> 00:56:49,860
Thank you, Joanne.

607
00:56:49,860 --> 00:56:50,860
Anyone else?

608
00:56:50,860 --> 00:56:51,860
Tom?

609
00:56:51,860 --> 00:56:57,740
Well, I'm not sure if this is the proper time to be in an overview of what my colleague

610
00:56:57,740 --> 00:57:02,420
just did, and I think we're going to attack them individually, I would imagine, correct?

611
00:57:02,420 --> 00:57:04,940
Because they are individual items that are...

612
00:57:04,940 --> 00:57:07,780
I don't know, let her be.

613
00:57:07,780 --> 00:57:11,860
I understand that.

614
00:57:11,860 --> 00:57:20,700
Well, I do like working with numbers and budget, being in business for a number of years, and

615
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:27,180
they do make sense to me.

616
00:57:27,180 --> 00:57:32,340
Money in, money out, and it's got to equal at the end of the day, and how we get there

617
00:57:32,340 --> 00:57:36,700
is a different avenue, and we have lots of things to decide.

618
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:38,060
I don't want to lump them all together.

619
00:57:38,060 --> 00:57:43,180
There are several different things going on, selling your properties.

620
00:57:43,180 --> 00:57:46,540
They're all individual, but yes, we need to get our...

621
00:57:46,540 --> 00:57:54,220
We have to show the community that we're doing our due diligence in sharpening our pencil

622
00:57:54,220 --> 00:58:02,460
once again, and making sure that every dollar we spend is going back into the students.

623
00:58:02,460 --> 00:58:05,460
So as an overview, that's just the overview.

624
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:12,060
So they're all, to me, they're all individual, and just, pardon me, yes.

625
00:58:12,060 --> 00:58:13,700
We can go through them one by one.

626
00:58:13,700 --> 00:58:15,340
Well, thank you.

627
00:58:15,340 --> 00:58:16,340
Brian?

628
00:58:16,340 --> 00:58:21,140
No, well, if we're going to do that, I'll wait.

629
00:58:21,140 --> 00:58:22,140
Okay.

630
00:58:22,140 --> 00:58:23,140
Carol?

631
00:58:23,140 --> 00:58:33,020
I guess I can hold off a little bit too, but I don't think we can just say we're going

632
00:58:33,020 --> 00:58:37,820
to use OPEB money without doing the due diligence of looking at what can be done without

633
00:58:37,820 --> 00:58:38,820
using it.

634
00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:40,300
It's a one-time deal.

635
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:41,820
Once it's there, it's gone.

636
00:58:41,820 --> 00:58:49,060
I believe we have about four million left, or is it more than that?

637
00:58:49,060 --> 00:58:55,900
It depends on whether we use any this year, but I don't think we can just say we're going

638
00:58:55,900 --> 00:59:01,020
to use it until we look at what else we can do.

639
00:59:01,020 --> 00:59:09,140
And then maybe use some of it, but I wouldn't want to just say we're just going to use it.

640
00:59:09,140 --> 00:59:15,060
If I could add on something to what Carol just said, it's going up at about 30 grand a

641
00:59:15,060 --> 00:59:16,060
month.

642
00:59:16,060 --> 00:59:17,060
Is that right?

643
00:59:17,060 --> 00:59:19,420
30 to 35,000 a month?

644
00:59:19,420 --> 00:59:21,220
Approximately, yes.

645
00:59:21,220 --> 00:59:22,220
Damn.

646
00:59:22,220 --> 00:59:23,220
Right.

647
00:59:23,220 --> 00:59:24,220
Okay.

648
00:59:24,220 --> 00:59:25,220
It's getting a very good labor time.

649
00:59:25,220 --> 00:59:26,220
Yes.

650
00:59:26,220 --> 00:59:27,220
That's my point.

651
00:59:27,220 --> 00:59:28,220
Thank you.

652
00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:40,380
How long has it been accruing that much interest, is that I've only been in the district for

653
00:59:40,380 --> 00:59:43,340
three years, and it's been there since I started here.

654
00:59:43,340 --> 00:59:50,580
So the last person that was drawing and benefit was in October of 24, and I think that money

655
00:59:50,580 --> 00:59:56,180
had already been there on the number of years before I arrived in the district.

656
00:59:56,180 --> 01:00:03,260
So there is a benefit to hanging on to the old pet money for this year, knowing that

657
01:00:03,260 --> 01:00:10,380
we are going to have a huge financial burden next year that we're going to have to look

658
01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:13,940
at and allowing that to accrue that interest.

659
01:00:13,940 --> 01:00:15,740
That was perfect.

660
01:00:15,740 --> 01:00:16,740
Yes.

661
01:00:16,740 --> 01:00:17,740
Okay.

662
01:00:17,740 --> 01:00:18,740
Tom?

663
01:00:18,740 --> 01:00:19,740
Yeah.

664
01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:25,740
On that note, I remember this conversation kind of with Mr. Chaney, the downside of

665
01:00:25,740 --> 01:00:32,020
using that money and how it affects state funding, could you just give a brief overview

666
01:00:32,020 --> 01:00:33,020
of that?

667
01:00:33,020 --> 01:00:40,340
So the shared cost effect of using that money is minimized when you have expenses that match

668
01:00:40,340 --> 01:00:41,340
it.

669
01:00:41,340 --> 01:00:45,660
If we were to bring it all over in one lump sum, then yes, it would have an effect on

670
01:00:45,660 --> 01:00:46,660
shared cost.

671
01:00:46,660 --> 01:00:53,580
But bringing it over as you have expenses, it minimizes that effect on shared cost, which

672
01:00:53,580 --> 01:00:59,140
shared cost is the piece of the equalization aid formula that affects our state aid.

673
01:00:59,140 --> 01:01:03,260
So if you move that money over, it has to be assigned to a certain cost.

674
01:01:03,260 --> 01:01:06,060
Is that kind of what you're saying?

675
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:10,540
If you do it that way, yes, it minimizes the effects on, yeah, minimizes, but there still

676
01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:14,380
is an effect of moving it over.

677
01:01:14,380 --> 01:01:17,740
There is, but it's smaller than when you have the expenses, I go with it.

678
01:01:17,740 --> 01:01:18,740
Okay.

679
01:01:18,740 --> 01:01:19,740
Thank you.

680
01:01:19,740 --> 01:01:23,620
So that is the total of $4.6 million, correct?

681
01:01:23,620 --> 01:01:26,220
And from the end of February, yes.

682
01:01:26,220 --> 01:01:27,220
Right.

683
01:01:27,220 --> 01:01:28,220
And we're looking at $4.5.

684
01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:31,780
I mean, that means we would have nothing left.

685
01:01:31,780 --> 01:01:34,980
And we don't know if we're going to use the $1.9 for this year's budget or not.

686
01:01:34,980 --> 01:01:39,060
Do we have any idea of how much we may or may not use?

687
01:01:39,060 --> 01:01:45,700
And going back to the first conversation about the $100,000, would we have $100,000 in this

688
01:01:45,700 --> 01:01:47,980
year's budget to cover that?

689
01:01:48,980 --> 01:01:52,780
So currently, our budget has been set.

690
01:01:52,780 --> 01:01:59,700
And with the $1.9 transfer over from OPEB, I have not done calculations for year-end yet

691
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:04,100
because there are a number of things that happen at year-end that affect our balances.

692
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:07,860
For example, we don't have, I mean, we won't have final health and trans numbers so we

693
01:02:07,860 --> 01:02:11,700
get closer to mid to the end of June.

694
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:17,860
So I can't tell you right now whether or not we're going to use that $1.9 now going based

695
01:02:17,860 --> 01:02:19,020
on last year's numbers.

696
01:02:19,020 --> 01:02:25,580
We did fairly well and we did have a slight surplus of funds at the end of the year, about

697
01:02:25,580 --> 01:02:26,580
$250,000.

698
01:02:26,580 --> 01:02:30,220
And we've been running pretty lean this year.

699
01:02:30,220 --> 01:02:34,620
We've been very careful about not spending as much money as we had in the past.

700
01:02:34,620 --> 01:02:35,620
We've been very careful.

701
01:02:35,620 --> 01:02:37,420
We haven't purchased any new technology.

702
01:02:37,420 --> 01:02:43,460
There's been very little major upgrades or improvements for our facilities.

703
01:02:43,460 --> 01:02:44,860
We've been very, very careful.

704
01:02:44,860 --> 01:02:50,220
But like I said, the health insurance because we are so funded, those numbers could change

705
01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:53,100
when we get towards year-end.

706
01:02:53,100 --> 01:03:00,460
And I would caution the board to be using up our savings or fund balance in a one-time

707
01:03:00,460 --> 01:03:07,100
cost or one-time year because then the next year we are facing a very large deficit if

708
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:11,020
we lose 600 students.

709
01:03:11,020 --> 01:03:24,300
So the recommendation is to spend fund balance before spending op-ed.

710
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:30,300
That's one option.

711
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:38,180
I hesitate to use up fund balance either because when you use up fund balance then it does

712
01:03:38,180 --> 01:03:41,420
cause other issues with short-term borrowing.

713
01:03:41,420 --> 01:03:47,860
Megan mentioned earlier about short-term borrowing and the district has had to do short-term

714
01:03:47,860 --> 01:03:52,580
borrowing for, well, the three years I've been here we've done it and then short was

715
01:03:52,580 --> 01:03:55,820
done before that with the fund balance being so low.

716
01:03:55,820 --> 01:04:00,540
But if you decrease the fund balance any further, that short-term borrowing is probably

717
01:04:00,540 --> 01:04:05,380
going to have to happen a few times during the year, not just once.

718
01:04:05,380 --> 01:04:06,380
Thank you.

719
01:04:06,380 --> 01:04:07,380
Brian?

720
01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:14,340
I was going to wait, but now I'm not going to wait.

721
01:04:14,340 --> 01:04:17,060
I think we should hold on to the op-ed.

722
01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:20,580
I just do because of what you just said.

723
01:04:20,580 --> 01:04:26,020
There's a lot, there's a lot more in 27-28 that we've got to concern ourselves with

724
01:04:26,020 --> 01:04:33,860
and we do the rest of this, you know, and then 26-27, so that would be my recommendation.

725
01:04:33,860 --> 01:04:34,860
One of seven.

726
01:04:34,860 --> 01:04:35,860
Thank you.

727
01:04:35,860 --> 01:04:36,860
Megan?

728
01:04:36,860 --> 01:04:37,860
Thank you.

729
01:04:37,860 --> 01:04:45,540
I just want to clarify, we're on the bullet point, the very last bullet point, is that

730
01:04:45,540 --> 01:04:49,300
right where it's specifically OPEP or is this like, was this an offshoot of the athletics

731
01:04:49,300 --> 01:04:50,300
conversation?

732
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:54,220
This is the workshop-style discussion.

733
01:04:54,220 --> 01:04:58,660
No, I just want to make sure that I, oopsies, I just clicked the wrong thing.

734
01:04:58,660 --> 01:05:02,420
I just want to make sure that I'm not veering off into a direction, okay.

735
01:05:02,420 --> 01:05:08,940
So I would say in the spirit of it being workshop-style, I think, I agree with what's

736
01:05:08,940 --> 01:05:15,300
been said about OPEPEP, I think that we need to protect our fund balance and our OPEP funds.

737
01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:20,700
I'm going to go, comma, but I'm going to go back to kind of the metaphor that I threw

738
01:05:20,700 --> 01:05:24,700
out last week, kind of a little concentric circle situation, right?

739
01:05:24,700 --> 01:05:30,180
Best case scenario, we don't touch OPEP, we don't touch fund balance.

740
01:05:30,180 --> 01:05:33,380
In reality, things get messy.

741
01:05:33,380 --> 01:05:37,460
And this is like, I think, Miss Ellwood, and you can call me back, I'm not totally fine.

742
01:05:37,460 --> 01:05:43,220
But Miss Ellwood said earlier, you know, our chief responsibility is our children and their

743
01:05:43,220 --> 01:05:44,860
education.

744
01:05:44,860 --> 01:05:51,220
If push comes to shove and, you know, in theory, things look good on paper, but then in practice,

745
01:05:51,220 --> 01:05:53,180
it becomes something different.

746
01:05:53,180 --> 01:05:58,700
I am not opposed, and I think it would be irresponsible for us not to have like some kind

747
01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:04,060
of a plan B. I think in the spirit of what Joanne was saying too, like, I really agree

748
01:06:04,060 --> 01:06:11,220
that we need to be thinking about how do we most conservatively and responsibly, but

749
01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:16,700
still use those funds, whether it's through cuts or having to dip into things, to make

750
01:06:16,700 --> 01:06:19,620
sure our kids get what they need next year.

751
01:06:19,620 --> 01:06:22,740
So it's a balancing act, that's why we're having this conversation.

752
01:06:22,740 --> 01:06:26,740
So what I'm wondering in the spirit of this last bullet point before getting into the

753
01:06:26,740 --> 01:06:32,580
specifics with athletics or anything else, would it make sense for us to say, like, just

754
01:06:32,580 --> 01:06:38,460
like Dr. Anderson came to us with the, here's the tale of two budgets, scenario A, where

755
01:06:38,460 --> 01:06:45,460
we use neither OPEB nor fund balance, you know, looks like this, scenario B, like, I

756
01:06:45,460 --> 01:06:48,780
think, Tia, this is what you're just getting at, would it be better to use OPEB or fund

757
01:06:48,780 --> 01:06:49,780
balance?

758
01:06:49,780 --> 01:06:52,620
Like, we're going to have to make a decision because at some point, we probably will have

759
01:06:52,620 --> 01:06:54,420
to dip into one or two of those.

760
01:06:54,420 --> 01:06:57,180
So I really like the conversation that we're having, right, like figuring out what are the

761
01:06:57,180 --> 01:07:02,460
pros and cons about fund 10 versus OPEB, you know, like Brian was saying, you know, there's

762
01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:04,420
an interest situation one over the other.

763
01:07:04,420 --> 01:07:08,260
So I would like to just like learn a little bit more information, and maybe that's something

764
01:07:08,260 --> 01:07:15,940
that can happen right now, if you wouldn't mind giving us a, if we have to, if we're

765
01:07:15,940 --> 01:07:20,860
not going to cut our way to the vision that we want to have, it's kind of likely that

766
01:07:20,860 --> 01:07:23,540
we'll have to dip into one or two of these things.

767
01:07:23,540 --> 01:07:29,300
Would your recommendation be, you know, not that we're just going to like cash out, but

768
01:07:29,300 --> 01:07:36,460
if we have to dip in, like, which direction do we go first and why, like, in your opinion?

769
01:07:36,460 --> 01:07:48,220
That's a super interesting question and quandary.

770
01:07:48,380 --> 01:07:54,020
And I hear what you're asking, but I don't know that I can give you a definitive answer

771
01:07:54,020 --> 01:07:56,420
of which one would be better to choose first.

772
01:07:56,420 --> 01:07:58,420
No, that makes sense.

773
01:07:58,420 --> 01:07:59,420
I don't know.

774
01:07:59,420 --> 01:08:00,420
Yeah.

775
01:08:00,420 --> 01:08:05,340
No, and I get it, both of them have their pros and cons, because once you use either one

776
01:08:05,340 --> 01:08:08,100
of them, the funds are gone.

777
01:08:08,100 --> 01:08:15,020
So that's the big quantity right there is they're both equally important because they're basically

778
01:08:15,020 --> 01:08:16,780
our savings accounts.

779
01:08:16,780 --> 01:08:19,900
And once you use those monies, they're gone.

780
01:08:19,900 --> 01:08:22,740
So you can't use them a second time.

781
01:08:22,740 --> 01:08:31,740
So if we're talking about two budgets, you know, 2627 and then 2728, 2627, we have a short

782
01:08:31,740 --> 01:08:34,420
fall of about 4.5 million.

783
01:08:34,420 --> 01:08:40,780
And then I think that when we move into the next year, it's 14.1 if we do nothing.

784
01:08:40,860 --> 01:08:47,100
So if we use up fund balance or opab in the first year, we have a short fall of 14.1

785
01:08:47,100 --> 01:08:51,540
million in the following year, and then your funds are gone.

786
01:08:51,540 --> 01:08:53,700
You have no safety net.

787
01:08:53,700 --> 01:08:54,860
You have no fund balance.

788
01:08:54,860 --> 01:08:56,940
You have no opab funds.

789
01:08:56,940 --> 01:09:00,700
And then you're running the district at a negative fund balance.

790
01:09:00,700 --> 01:09:06,140
And in my kind of researching a little bit, districts that have run into negative fund

791
01:09:06,140 --> 01:09:12,220
balance, if they don't pay us a referendum, then there's other discussions about the

792
01:09:12,220 --> 01:09:17,140
state coming in and having to get a guidance as to what happens next.

793
01:09:17,140 --> 01:09:19,660
And I would call them the board.

794
01:09:19,660 --> 01:09:21,460
Oh, that's okay.

795
01:09:21,460 --> 01:09:23,980
I would caution the board to put us in that situation.

796
01:09:23,980 --> 01:09:33,060
I think we need to do some serious research and review and make informed decisions about

797
01:09:33,060 --> 01:09:35,260
where to move to next.

798
01:09:35,260 --> 01:09:39,020
Because we don't want to be running into a situation where we're running a negative

799
01:09:39,020 --> 01:09:40,020
fund balance.

800
01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:46,860
So we do need to talk about, are we going to make the cuts or is it impossible to make

801
01:09:46,860 --> 01:09:51,220
enough cuts and we need to talk about referendum?

802
01:09:51,220 --> 01:09:53,060
So that was incredibly helpful.

803
01:09:53,060 --> 01:09:54,060
I appreciate it.

804
01:09:54,060 --> 01:09:58,740
And here's my recommendation based on what you just said.

805
01:09:58,740 --> 01:10:04,940
So it sounds like without having more information than we have right now, because there will

806
01:10:04,940 --> 01:10:13,700
be some kind of impact to moving money from OPEB into our fund balance.

807
01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:17,420
Time brought that up earlier.

808
01:10:17,420 --> 01:10:24,980
Would it make sense for us to say, obviously, our goal is not to spend money we don't have.

809
01:10:24,980 --> 01:10:32,860
It sounds like if we needed to, the place to do that would be fund balance and not OPEB.

810
01:10:32,860 --> 01:10:38,220
And then my other kind of thing I want to throw out there is I don't see why we wouldn't

811
01:10:38,220 --> 01:10:44,900
go to referendum in November, given that everything that you just said.

812
01:10:44,900 --> 01:10:49,540
So just like in that we can almost maybe do an inverse, I think we don't need to approve

813
01:10:49,540 --> 01:10:54,900
a budget until, I mean, the state doesn't even tell us what we're getting per pupil in any

814
01:10:54,900 --> 01:10:57,220
finality until October 15th.

815
01:10:57,220 --> 01:11:01,620
So we're not going to approve the budget until just prior to November.

816
01:11:01,620 --> 01:11:04,220
I realize that that'll be before an election.

817
01:11:04,220 --> 01:11:09,380
But maybe as we get closer to that discussion, you know, things are going to change.

818
01:11:09,380 --> 01:11:14,300
I liked how in the past we said, we don't want to touch OPEB.

819
01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:16,980
But if we have to, it'll be this much.

820
01:11:16,980 --> 01:11:20,780
Maybe we do that instead with like, I'll take your hand, sorry, I'm not trying to like

821
01:11:20,780 --> 01:11:25,380
your, I'm just trying to keep the two funds straight in my head.

822
01:11:25,380 --> 01:11:29,860
If we were to pass a referendum in November is what I'm getting at, we wouldn't necessarily

823
01:11:29,940 --> 01:11:31,140
need to cut into something.

824
01:11:31,140 --> 01:11:36,260
I just, I think we need to sort of, and it sounds like without further research, it sounds

825
01:11:36,260 --> 01:11:39,460
like Fund 10 would be the place to go to prior to OPEB.

826
01:11:39,460 --> 01:11:44,140
I think we just need to give ourselves that cushion because while all of this is important

827
01:11:44,140 --> 01:11:50,380
and nobody wants to get anywhere near a negative fund balance situation, we also owe our community's

828
01:11:50,380 --> 01:11:53,380
children an education.

829
01:11:53,380 --> 01:11:57,540
So it's not going to be ideal either way.

830
01:11:57,540 --> 01:12:02,700
Tom, and then Carol?

831
01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:04,180
Thank you.

832
01:12:04,180 --> 01:12:11,100
As I listened to this discussion and for doing OPEB versus fund balance, to me, and sometimes

833
01:12:11,100 --> 01:12:16,300
the answer is in the middle, you know, some of OPEB, some of fund balance.

834
01:12:16,300 --> 01:12:19,100
So we're not depleting either one.

835
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:25,740
And we need to, I know we need more information, but rather the, you know, the pros and cons

836
01:12:25,740 --> 01:12:27,340
of it, you know, we can talk about that.

837
01:12:27,340 --> 01:12:34,300
But as I have in my adult life, you know, sometimes the compromise is good.

838
01:12:34,300 --> 01:12:39,700
And I want to go back to one thing and ask Stephanie, you know, and Megan brought up

839
01:12:39,700 --> 01:12:41,140
short-term borrowing.

840
01:12:41,140 --> 01:12:46,380
To my recollection, when we did use short-term borrowing, it was just used until we got a

841
01:12:46,380 --> 01:12:49,300
payment from the state, is that correct?

842
01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:51,540
Or a payment from coming from whoever?

843
01:12:51,540 --> 01:12:52,540
That is correct.

844
01:12:52,540 --> 01:12:53,540
Okay.

845
01:12:53,540 --> 01:12:56,700
So it's used as, like, a stock egg, right.

846
01:12:56,700 --> 01:13:00,020
And so it's not like something that's still on the books.

847
01:13:00,020 --> 01:13:02,460
We pay them off as we get our funds.

848
01:13:02,460 --> 01:13:03,460
But it's correct.

849
01:13:03,460 --> 01:13:04,460
Okay.

850
01:13:04,460 --> 01:13:05,460
Thank you.

851
01:13:05,460 --> 01:13:09,220
But yeah, but I think, you know, I think it's, to me, it's an obvious thing to look

852
01:13:09,220 --> 01:13:11,660
at both of them, a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

853
01:13:11,660 --> 01:13:15,380
And I agree with and try not to use any of it.

854
01:13:15,380 --> 01:13:20,900
Our fund balance has never been what our policy says, 18%, which at that time was 18 million.

855
01:13:20,980 --> 01:13:27,020
Well, now we're down to a $90 million dollar budget.

856
01:13:27,020 --> 01:13:34,700
You know, we're, now we're dipping down into the $7 or $8 million fund balance, and I agree.

857
01:13:34,700 --> 01:13:38,660
We don't, we can't do it, but we have to do what we have to do.

858
01:13:38,660 --> 01:13:39,660
Thank you.

859
01:13:39,660 --> 01:13:41,660
Tom, never say never.

860
01:13:41,660 --> 01:13:43,660
No, I understand that.

861
01:13:44,300 --> 01:13:53,980
The fund balance has been in line with a policy in the past, from 2009 to 2012, when

862
01:13:53,980 --> 01:14:01,500
I was on the board previously, it was actually there were times when it was even above policy.

863
01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:02,500
That's wonderful.

864
01:14:02,500 --> 01:14:08,340
And I'm very happy to, you know, I'm sure, but we've been out of policy for, I don't

865
01:14:08,340 --> 01:14:09,340
know how many years.

866
01:14:09,700 --> 01:14:18,700
Anyways, my point is, I think, just me, that the answer may, will lay within using some

867
01:14:18,700 --> 01:14:21,460
of OPEB and some of fund balance.

868
01:14:21,460 --> 01:14:22,460
Thank you.

869
01:14:22,460 --> 01:14:23,460
Carol?

870
01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:30,220
Just a, you know, we got to be careful about talking about October and the referendum and

871
01:14:30,220 --> 01:14:31,220
all of that.

872
01:14:31,220 --> 01:14:37,940
This budget starts July 1, and we have to be prepared to handle this budget for next year.

873
01:14:37,940 --> 01:14:46,260
So I go back to what I was saying before, you know, we need to have our department heads

874
01:14:46,260 --> 01:14:51,220
in our superintendent go back and come up with some plans.

875
01:14:51,220 --> 01:14:56,060
You know, this is what we could, we could cut this many teachers, and this is what it

876
01:14:56,060 --> 01:14:57,300
would look like.

877
01:14:57,300 --> 01:15:02,420
If we, if we cut these counselors or social workers or whatever, this is what it would

878
01:15:02,420 --> 01:15:07,540
look like, you know, and then we could do a different plan where if we did it this way,

879
01:15:07,540 --> 01:15:09,380
this is what it would look like.

880
01:15:09,380 --> 01:15:16,780
But we're talking in generalities, but we need, really need, somebody needs to come

881
01:15:16,780 --> 01:15:23,380
up with some better specifics about what it is that we need to be looking at, how many

882
01:15:23,380 --> 01:15:27,660
classroom, you know, they said there were vacancies and cuts, but we can't necessarily

883
01:15:27,660 --> 01:15:28,660
not fill those.

884
01:15:28,660 --> 01:15:33,260
But so, you know, so what do you need to fill, how many teachers do you really need, how

885
01:15:33,260 --> 01:15:38,060
many teachers do we have, you know, we have a hundred students less, we should be able

886
01:15:38,060 --> 01:15:41,380
to reduce just based on that.

887
01:15:41,380 --> 01:15:46,860
So you know, where is the plan and how does all of this fold in with the plan?

888
01:15:46,860 --> 01:15:52,460
You know, it's like, I don't want to cut nurses, but you know, what are we going to do about

889
01:15:52,460 --> 01:15:57,940
nursing and you know, can we keep health room assistance and do something with a nurse that

890
01:15:57,940 --> 01:15:58,940
goes around?

891
01:15:58,940 --> 01:16:06,460
I mean, I need to see somebody come up with some suggestions and alternatives, right?

892
01:16:06,460 --> 01:16:09,580
So we could do this, we could do this, and then we could save this much money.

893
01:16:09,580 --> 01:16:18,620
And then you could say, okay, yeah, we prefer that over that because it follows our priorities,

894
01:16:18,620 --> 01:16:20,420
right?

895
01:16:20,420 --> 01:16:31,460
You know, should we do legal counsel, right, do we do legal counsel and cut the director

896
01:16:31,460 --> 01:16:32,460
of nursing?

897
01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:35,700
I mean, how does that play off one another?

898
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:44,660
I don't know without having better quality information to look at, and that's kind of

899
01:16:44,660 --> 01:16:45,660
where I am.

900
01:16:45,660 --> 01:16:50,380
I don't want to use OPEB money, but if all of the scenarios we see say, yeah, we can

901
01:16:50,380 --> 01:16:52,540
do this, but that's as far as we can get.

902
01:16:52,540 --> 01:17:00,820
We need to do another million or two million, then I do it, you know, but we need to have

903
01:17:00,820 --> 01:17:02,900
it better planned out.

904
01:17:02,900 --> 01:17:08,060
And you know, go back to all of our directors and our athletic director, you know, cut,

905
01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:12,940
come back with a plan where you cut $100,000 out of your budget or $200,000 out of your

906
01:17:12,940 --> 01:17:13,940
budget.

907
01:17:13,940 --> 01:17:14,940
Give us both plans.

908
01:17:14,940 --> 01:17:18,220
Let us look at it, see what it looks like, see what we can live with.

909
01:17:19,220 --> 01:17:24,940
You know, we can talk all the want about whether we don't use or don't use OPEB, but

910
01:17:24,940 --> 01:17:29,540
if we don't have an idea of how much money we're going to use or need, you know, we

911
01:17:29,540 --> 01:17:31,940
don't have an idea of what to do.

912
01:17:31,940 --> 01:17:38,340
So that's why I came up with that otherwise.

913
01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:40,340
Thank you, Joanne.

914
01:17:40,340 --> 01:17:45,340
Isn't that what the tail of two budgets had?

915
01:17:45,340 --> 01:17:50,220
I can't find it right at this moment, but like, there are all those line items, like,

916
01:17:50,220 --> 01:17:53,060
if we eliminate this, then this is how much money we save.

917
01:17:53,060 --> 01:17:55,740
If we eliminate this, this is how much money we save.

918
01:17:55,740 --> 01:18:03,300
I think that's what Dr. Anderson's plan was, was for us to look at that and decide where

919
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:07,980
we were going to make those hard decisions at.

920
01:18:07,980 --> 01:18:14,300
That was just a beginning of discussion, and it's like, you know, work in progress,

921
01:18:14,300 --> 01:18:19,820
10, you know, open positions, possibly 10, eliminate, estimate $1 billion.

922
01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:24,540
I don't know what that is.

923
01:18:24,540 --> 01:18:27,380
They had security.

924
01:18:27,380 --> 01:18:28,540
It wasn't really a plan.

925
01:18:28,540 --> 01:18:33,620
It was just, you know, that's what we spend on security, should we cut some of that?

926
01:18:33,620 --> 01:18:36,020
It's not a plan.

927
01:18:36,020 --> 01:18:37,900
That's what we spend on professional development.

928
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:43,580
There's not a plan for how much should we spend on professional development.

929
01:18:43,580 --> 01:18:53,180
The closest they got was the elementary guidance at four, and nursing, and cutting all the

930
01:18:53,180 --> 01:18:56,460
health room assistance.

931
01:18:56,460 --> 01:19:02,340
The guidance is actually counselors, and Leah, are you guys, like, looking for us to

932
01:19:02,340 --> 01:19:06,260
say, here, these are the areas we want you to look at?

933
01:19:06,260 --> 01:19:11,020
Because I feel like we're just, like, spinning in a circle here, and, like, what do you

934
01:19:11,020 --> 01:19:12,020
want?

935
01:19:12,020 --> 01:19:16,320
We're looking for specifically what area do you want to give us permission to make

936
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:17,320
some cuts.

937
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:18,320
Right.

938
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,260
And, like, depending on who you ask, everybody's got a different idea of where to make the

939
01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:23,260
cuts, right?

940
01:19:23,260 --> 01:19:27,380
Like, you ask the teachers, they don't care about the roof, they care about who's in

941
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:28,380
front of them.

942
01:19:28,380 --> 01:19:31,900
But if you ask, you know, the people that are in charge of the buildings, they're going

943
01:19:31,900 --> 01:19:36,700
to say, oh, my goodness, we need new roofs, and parking lots, and things like that.

944
01:19:36,700 --> 01:19:42,380
And so, like, I think Dr. Anderson, that's why I said, I think we need to just first

945
01:19:42,380 --> 01:19:47,340
start with those things and say, yeah, go ahead with those, because those are good ideas,

946
01:19:47,340 --> 01:19:49,740
those are ways to save us some money.

947
01:19:49,740 --> 01:20:00,700
And then, I mean, I don't see a plan where we don't make decisions that severely impact

948
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:06,020
our students unless we go into some pool of money.

949
01:20:06,020 --> 01:20:11,380
And that's, I guess, I wasn't wording it the right way before, but after listening to

950
01:20:11,380 --> 01:20:12,380
her.

951
01:20:12,380 --> 01:20:19,460
I'm not saying spend the whole thing, but I'm saying, I don't think I can't see a scenario

952
01:20:19,460 --> 01:20:25,180
where we don't do that unless we're willing to do things that are going to be detrimental

953
01:20:25,180 --> 01:20:27,500
to the children that we serve.

954
01:20:27,500 --> 01:20:32,820
So, like, I would just really like to start with the things on Dr. Anderson's list so

955
01:20:32,820 --> 01:20:38,540
we can at least say, all right, we got that going, and now, where next do we look?

956
01:20:38,540 --> 01:20:44,380
So, I mean, I think they don't have a plan yet because plans take a lot of time.

957
01:20:44,380 --> 01:20:49,540
And so, tell us where you want to cut, and then we'll show you the plan for those cuts,

958
01:20:49,540 --> 01:20:50,540
right?

959
01:20:50,540 --> 01:20:51,540
Is that right, Leah?

960
01:20:51,540 --> 01:20:52,540
I would say that's correct.

961
01:20:52,540 --> 01:20:56,660
There's been a lot of talk, we have done a lot of talking within our departments about

962
01:20:56,660 --> 01:20:59,540
things that we can cut per department.

963
01:20:59,540 --> 01:21:04,140
A lot of things are small things that add up to big things.

964
01:21:04,140 --> 01:21:07,980
The hardest part, of course, is cutting staffing.

965
01:21:07,980 --> 01:21:13,460
Of course, we want to do that, those cuts through attrition and not hiring for positions

966
01:21:13,460 --> 01:21:17,020
that have been open for the whole year or plus.

967
01:21:17,020 --> 01:21:22,020
But overall, the high school is still, or less we know, the high school is still putting

968
01:21:22,020 --> 01:21:26,540
and rolling kids in the classes, so we will be taking a look at what the enrollment

969
01:21:26,540 --> 01:21:30,980
and class sizes are like, and that will be going through with our department and with

970
01:21:30,980 --> 01:21:31,980
HR.

971
01:21:31,980 --> 01:21:38,420
That's not a single person effort because there's going to have to be some restructuring, obviously.

972
01:21:38,420 --> 01:21:44,060
So, of course, cuts will come by way of that, or not, I wouldn't say cuts, but collapsing

973
01:21:44,060 --> 01:21:51,780
or combining of courses as much as we are able to do within the realm of possibility.

974
01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:56,540
Of course, you know, DLI, but that's something we're still in process of meeting with principals

975
01:21:56,540 --> 01:22:02,060
and restructuring how that will go, but again, that is not a budgetary cut, it's just a,

976
01:22:02,060 --> 01:22:05,220
you know, restructuring that kind of program.

977
01:22:05,220 --> 01:22:11,660
Looking within departments, again, like I said, we've cut down, we are able to cut,

978
01:22:11,660 --> 01:22:19,900
you know, over $230,000 just in software alone because we have programs that we aren't necessarily

979
01:22:19,900 --> 01:22:25,300
using to their capacity, or we have programs that are essentially duplicates, so we can

980
01:22:25,300 --> 01:22:31,260
reduce in those areas as well, but it's those bigger cuts, like what do you want us to focus

981
01:22:31,260 --> 01:22:32,260
on?

982
01:22:32,260 --> 01:22:37,460
Do you want us to delay a roof in a parking lot, or do you want us to focus on an athletic

983
01:22:37,460 --> 01:22:38,460
budget?

984
01:22:38,460 --> 01:22:43,860
What does the board want to focus most on for this next budget year?

985
01:22:43,860 --> 01:22:49,660
Because once we get that settled, we need to move on to 27, 28.

986
01:22:49,660 --> 01:22:54,420
So for sure, we need to look at the athletic budget, because we're over, and so like we

987
01:22:54,420 --> 01:23:01,020
don't need to just, I mean we at least need to cut $100,000, but probably more.

988
01:23:01,020 --> 01:23:08,220
I do know, so T and I talked the other day about like just, you know, like what's going

989
01:23:08,220 --> 01:23:13,260
on with the literacy program and stuff in our districts, because originally I was very

990
01:23:13,260 --> 01:23:20,100
nervous about saying we can't use, or we could save money with technology in our classrooms,

991
01:23:20,100 --> 01:23:25,580
but I've been talking to teachers, and now the survey, like it mirrored what I've heard

992
01:23:25,580 --> 01:23:33,340
too, is that our elementary schools, we don't need to be dependent on one-to-one devices

993
01:23:33,340 --> 01:23:35,060
like we thought we would needed to.

994
01:23:35,060 --> 01:23:39,700
And I think we don't need to depend on them like we did, but I do think that there is

995
01:23:39,700 --> 01:23:44,420
still a dependence, but that will come with a cost savings as well, rather than having

996
01:23:44,420 --> 01:23:49,580
one-to-one devices, we can have sets that people can use for the instruction time.

997
01:23:49,580 --> 01:23:55,260
So when that comes around, I do think that we will be able to have some savings there,

998
01:23:55,260 --> 01:23:56,780
certainly at the elementary level.

999
01:23:56,780 --> 01:24:02,100
But again, like Director Elwood said, when we are going through with our curriculum and

1000
01:24:02,100 --> 01:24:07,060
planning, some of our curriculum companies are exclusively dependent on technology as

1001
01:24:07,060 --> 01:24:13,340
well, so that's something that we need to consider as we're revamping curriculum in

1002
01:24:13,340 --> 01:24:14,340
the future.

1003
01:24:14,340 --> 01:24:16,580
Is that something you and I could sit down and look at then?

1004
01:24:16,580 --> 01:24:17,580
Yes, ma'am.

1005
01:24:17,580 --> 01:24:18,580
Megan?

1006
01:24:18,580 --> 01:24:21,780
Thank you so much.

1007
01:24:21,780 --> 01:24:27,860
First, Joanne, I like a thousand percent agree with everything you said.

1008
01:24:27,860 --> 01:24:34,460
Further, I guess, just in the spirit of getting to what Dr. Malat needs us to get to, I'm

1009
01:24:34,460 --> 01:24:38,220
looking at these bullet points, I'm giving them numbers from one to six, okay?

1010
01:24:38,220 --> 01:24:40,580
So like number one would be the athletic thing.

1011
01:24:40,580 --> 01:24:45,220
I am not prepared to approve any additional funding for the athletic piece until I see

1012
01:24:45,220 --> 01:24:48,500
a plan, so like that's kind of where I met on that.

1013
01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:50,420
Number two, vacant properties, same thing.

1014
01:24:50,420 --> 01:24:54,500
Of course, I would rather sell properties versus cut anything.

1015
01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:59,140
I just, I need more information, so I don't know if, or President Johnson, if that's

1016
01:24:59,140 --> 01:25:02,700
something, I'm sure that's already on your radar too, you know, for future board meeting,

1017
01:25:02,700 --> 01:25:06,260
if we could just like kind of get some of those numbers, but Leah, in a general way,

1018
01:25:06,260 --> 01:25:11,580
absolutely 100% yes, let's do that before we touch a classroom situation, right?

1019
01:25:11,580 --> 01:25:18,700
Fund 80, my specific request for that item is that you slash Dr. Anderson slash, you know,

1020
01:25:18,700 --> 01:25:22,460
I don't know because I don't want to be in the weeds, whoever like the administration

1021
01:25:22,460 --> 01:25:28,700
believes is necessary should meet with not only the city of Beloit, but with like community

1022
01:25:28,700 --> 01:25:36,140
action, with the Boys and Girls Club, all of the like amazing nonprofit situations

1023
01:25:36,140 --> 01:25:39,980
like that we have in our community right now that already do work with kids and figure

1024
01:25:39,980 --> 01:25:44,420
out how do we dump all the Legos on the table that we already have and rearrange them in

1025
01:25:44,420 --> 01:25:50,740
a way that doesn't create a ridiculous tax burden, but better utilizes fund 80 and enhances

1026
01:25:50,740 --> 01:25:55,100
programming to all children, not just the kids in our school, like our entire city,

1027
01:25:55,100 --> 01:26:00,700
all of our kids, you know, it makes life better for everybody, okay?

1028
01:26:00,700 --> 01:26:04,740
So that's my opinion on fund 80, I would really love to see some follow up and I'm not trying

1029
01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:08,620
to be like, I'm sure you have 85,000 fires that you need to put out right now, but like

1030
01:26:08,620 --> 01:26:12,540
in a timeline that you believe makes sense, but like sooner rather than later, I think

1031
01:26:12,540 --> 01:26:16,060
we need to have those discussions and I would love to hear and I'm happy to participate

1032
01:26:16,060 --> 01:26:20,340
too, but some kind of report out so that when we approve a preliminary budget in June,

1033
01:26:20,340 --> 01:26:25,020
we have a very specific sense of like what our fund 80 plan is because I know the community

1034
01:26:25,020 --> 01:26:30,020
is always very interested in making sure that those dollars are spent appropriately.

1035
01:26:30,020 --> 01:26:35,300
The legal counsel thing, yeah, dude, absolutely, it just wherever we can save money, I'm looking

1036
01:26:35,300 --> 01:26:39,580
forward to seeing your plan for that 100% would support what you guys believe is best,

1037
01:26:39,580 --> 01:26:45,420
that will be a cost savings communications director, I would love to just see a cost analysis

1038
01:26:45,420 --> 01:26:50,980
just for the next two years, since we're looking at 26, 27 and 27, 28, would it be more

1039
01:26:50,980 --> 01:26:55,900
cost effective to hire in-house versus doing some kind of contract with Hadley?

1040
01:26:55,900 --> 01:26:59,340
I would love to see like a side or like any other, you know, I would love to see a side

1041
01:26:59,340 --> 01:27:03,860
right side because I really don't have a concept of like all of the costs that would be involved

1042
01:27:03,860 --> 01:27:07,460
in that one way or the other, so whatever makes sense there, I'm going to support, we

1043
01:27:07,460 --> 01:27:08,580
already talked about op-amp.

1044
01:27:08,580 --> 01:27:16,140
So last comment for me, Dr. Malott to your big picture view, the core, like we do not

1045
01:27:16,140 --> 01:27:21,500
touch unless it's like the apocalypse would be services to students.

1046
01:27:21,500 --> 01:27:27,100
So like when you present to us, because we're giving you some guidance, I hope it makes

1047
01:27:27,100 --> 01:27:30,420
some kind of sense, the guidance we're giving you, so like whenever you can make sense of

1048
01:27:30,420 --> 01:27:35,420
this and we come back, if we could categorize things in terms of services to students,

1049
01:27:35,420 --> 01:27:39,020
I want to touch those last or not at all.

1050
01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:44,220
I would just to be clear, like DLI, for example, I believe is a service, I know we call it

1051
01:27:44,220 --> 01:27:48,100
the DLI program, but these are instructional services to students, it's high retention

1052
01:27:48,100 --> 01:27:51,580
et cetera, so like I'll just just declare that one specific point, and then the next

1053
01:27:51,580 --> 01:27:55,460
thing out from that, which nobody wants to touch either, but I want to touch this before

1054
01:27:55,460 --> 01:27:58,700
services would be programs.

1055
01:27:58,700 --> 01:28:02,260
And then outside of that, the next outside thing, like the thing that I think we need

1056
01:28:02,260 --> 01:28:08,180
to go after is all of the ancillary stuff that you have on this list, like legal, communications,

1057
01:28:08,180 --> 01:28:10,220
how do we better use fund 80, et cetera.

1058
01:28:10,220 --> 01:28:21,900
So that is like my $5.37 opinion on kind of the large scope and all of those bullet points.

1059
01:28:21,900 --> 01:28:26,700
Thank you, Carol.

1060
01:28:26,700 --> 01:28:36,780
I would refer you back to this, maintaining existing teacher pupil ratios, these were

1061
01:28:36,780 --> 01:28:46,500
the priorities that we've discussed, and from there you can go forward as far as I'm concerned.

1062
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:55,660
If you need to, you know, a point by point, which I don't necessarily, I don't know about

1063
01:28:55,660 --> 01:29:01,380
the, I'm concerned about the athletic budget for this year, because we can't be starting

1064
01:29:01,380 --> 01:29:05,420
to cut spring sports now, can we?

1065
01:29:05,420 --> 01:29:08,260
I don't think so.

1066
01:29:08,260 --> 01:29:12,860
So I think, you know, we're going to have to bite that $100,000 for this year, never

1067
01:29:12,900 --> 01:29:16,900
again, right, but, and it has to be less.

1068
01:29:16,900 --> 01:29:23,140
So, you know, figure out a budget where it's less.

1069
01:29:23,140 --> 01:29:27,580
If they can properties, again, if they can buy properties to be here like OPEP money,

1070
01:29:27,580 --> 01:29:33,660
it's a one-time deal, you know, if it can work fine, if not, fine.

1071
01:29:33,660 --> 01:29:40,260
Fund 80, absolutely yes, I listened to that again, and I can't permit Mr. Rand, I think

1072
01:29:40,260 --> 01:29:41,420
his name was.

1073
01:29:41,460 --> 01:29:46,300
And he said he gave a plan to Dr. Anderson, it'd be nice to see the plan.

1074
01:29:46,300 --> 01:29:50,900
And again, I agree with Meghan, anything else that we could put in there would be fine.

1075
01:29:50,900 --> 01:29:58,980
Legal counsel, only if it saves us money, communications director, no, I mean, if, to

1076
01:29:58,980 --> 01:30:02,780
me, a trade-off between a communications director and health room assistance, I'd rather have

1077
01:30:02,780 --> 01:30:06,460
health room assistance, thank you very much, but I'm an old elementary principal, and I

1078
01:30:06,460 --> 01:30:11,220
know how many times the kids come to the office with health concerns.

1079
01:30:11,220 --> 01:30:16,540
So that has to be part of a bigger plan, and we already talked about OPEP money, so

1080
01:30:16,540 --> 01:30:18,860
that's my take if you want it that way.

1081
01:30:18,860 --> 01:30:20,340
Thank you, Carol.

1082
01:30:20,340 --> 01:30:21,340
Joanne?

1083
01:30:21,340 --> 01:30:28,180
So, the legal counsel one, that was one that did save us a few hundred thousand dollars,

1084
01:30:28,180 --> 01:30:31,860
at least two, I don't remember exactly, because either two hundred thousand or three hundred

1085
01:30:31,860 --> 01:30:34,180
thousand dollars savings he thought.

1086
01:30:34,180 --> 01:30:36,500
So, I mean, I think we should look into it.

1087
01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:40,940
And I don't think that Dr. Anderson saying, if we say yes, then he's just going to do

1088
01:30:40,940 --> 01:30:41,940
it.

1089
01:30:41,940 --> 01:30:45,260
I think he just is exploring the opportunity, right?

1090
01:30:45,260 --> 01:30:46,260
Yes.

1091
01:30:46,260 --> 01:30:52,020
Here's my two cents on that over the last two years.

1092
01:30:52,020 --> 01:31:03,220
We do spend a lot, a lot, a lot of money on legal fees, and so much of it is avoidable,

1093
01:31:03,220 --> 01:31:10,500
which is really, really frustrating, because a lot of these things are avoidable.

1094
01:31:10,500 --> 01:31:14,540
We have policies for a reason.

1095
01:31:14,540 --> 01:31:27,460
We have expectations for a reason, and to me, sometimes mind-boggling how and why we find

1096
01:31:27,460 --> 01:31:37,180
ourselves in the situations we are, it's part of the painful process of making improvements

1097
01:31:37,180 --> 01:31:42,140
changes slow, but we have to continue trying to get better.

1098
01:31:42,140 --> 01:31:48,180
And reminding people, we have board policies for a reason to protect us legally, and so

1099
01:31:48,180 --> 01:31:57,260
that we're not spending money over all kinds of different things that employees or employees

1100
01:31:57,260 --> 01:32:05,860
or people are doing, so we can potentially save money.

1101
01:32:05,860 --> 01:32:13,300
Will we save money, not necessarily, and will we always have another outside legal

1102
01:32:13,300 --> 01:32:14,300
firm?

1103
01:32:14,300 --> 01:32:21,020
Yes, that will always happen, but hopefully we can minimize the need for that.

1104
01:32:21,020 --> 01:32:22,020
Tom?

1105
01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:24,100
Thank you very much.

1106
01:32:24,100 --> 01:32:31,340
As I look at this, and as we discussed, the administration is looking for a nod, do we

1107
01:32:31,340 --> 01:32:32,340
want a procedure or not?

1108
01:32:32,340 --> 01:32:35,580
And if we're going to swallow, be a joint of the whale and swallow them all at one big

1109
01:32:35,580 --> 01:32:36,580
bite.

1110
01:32:36,580 --> 01:32:42,300
I say yes, please move forward with this for further review.

1111
01:32:42,300 --> 01:32:47,100
That's the way my understanding was from Dr. Rain and from Dr. Malat.

1112
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:54,900
There is one issue that is pressing, and that concerns the athletic department, and Mr.

1113
01:32:54,900 --> 01:33:00,220
Gratz needs to know by may wonder if we want to enter in collaborations with other

1114
01:33:00,220 --> 01:33:06,740
school districts to help fund next year's supporting activity.

1115
01:33:06,740 --> 01:33:09,940
So that has to be done separately.

1116
01:33:09,940 --> 01:33:15,060
I think he's here tonight to speak on that, but if we're looking for a nod, I'm in the

1117
01:33:15,060 --> 01:33:21,300
affirmative of letting the administration explore what these bullet points are.

1118
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:22,300
Thank you.

1119
01:33:23,300 --> 01:33:31,660
Dr. Malat, do you guys have a presentation for the athletic bullet point?

1120
01:33:31,660 --> 01:33:38,060
I do not have a presentation for the athletic department.

1121
01:33:38,060 --> 01:33:39,060
Okay.

1122
01:33:39,060 --> 01:33:46,420
Well, if there's no objections, how about we just go through these one by one and give

1123
01:33:46,420 --> 01:33:48,260
the administration some direction?

1124
01:33:48,260 --> 01:33:56,660
So the first bullet point, and Tom, I appreciate you trying to move approval of all of them

1125
01:33:56,660 --> 01:33:59,940
forward, but all of them have an either or.

1126
01:33:59,940 --> 01:34:00,940
So does that?

1127
01:34:00,940 --> 01:34:05,460
Again, I'm sorry to interrupt, but yes, but we started talking as a whole.

1128
01:34:05,460 --> 01:34:11,380
So I just thought, you know, let's, if we're going to, my colleagues are talking not individually,

1129
01:34:11,380 --> 01:34:13,860
and I said at the beginning, they're individual.

1130
01:34:13,860 --> 01:34:16,660
But if we're going to take them as a whole, let's just give the nod.

1131
01:34:16,660 --> 01:34:21,420
So does the board want administration to add 100,000 to the athletic budget so that

1132
01:34:21,420 --> 01:34:29,260
all current athletic teams can operate in the 25, 26th level based on what I'm hearing?

1133
01:34:29,260 --> 01:34:39,060
It sounds like most of us are not in favor of adding 100,000 to the athletic budget.

1134
01:34:39,060 --> 01:34:44,220
Are there any board members that feel strongly one way or the other?

1135
01:34:44,220 --> 01:34:47,980
Is that for this year or for next year?

1136
01:34:47,980 --> 01:34:48,980
For next year?

1137
01:34:48,980 --> 01:34:49,980
Okay.

1138
01:34:49,980 --> 01:34:50,980
For next year?

1139
01:34:50,980 --> 01:34:51,980
Okay.

1140
01:34:51,980 --> 01:34:52,980
For next year?

1141
01:34:52,980 --> 01:34:53,980
Okay.

1142
01:34:53,980 --> 01:34:54,980
For next year?

1143
01:34:54,980 --> 01:34:55,980
No.

1144
01:34:55,980 --> 01:34:56,980
Am I understanding that right?

1145
01:34:56,980 --> 01:34:57,980
Mrs. Owen?

1146
01:34:57,980 --> 01:35:05,180
I'm not sure, because you did say 25, 26, which is the current fiscal year.

1147
01:35:05,180 --> 01:35:09,740
And that's what it says, I'm just reading what was provided to us as board members.

1148
01:35:09,740 --> 01:35:13,900
We are just board members.

1149
01:35:13,900 --> 01:35:18,620
Because he is over, or I'm sorry, because the athletic budget is over my approximately

1150
01:35:18,620 --> 01:35:24,700
100,000 dollars, I'm assuming then they're asking for an approval to increase the budget

1151
01:35:24,700 --> 01:35:25,700
for 25, 26.

1152
01:35:25,700 --> 01:35:30,860
But then we also do need to look at 26, 27.

1153
01:35:30,860 --> 01:35:32,940
Okay.

1154
01:35:32,940 --> 01:35:38,060
So this is for this year.

1155
01:35:38,060 --> 01:35:44,380
Because I thought, if I'm not mistaken, that Dr. Anderson had, at one point, said to me

1156
01:35:44,380 --> 01:35:50,300
he could find the 100,000 without us having to have a board approval to move it from one

1157
01:35:50,300 --> 01:35:53,380
fund to the other.

1158
01:35:53,380 --> 01:35:56,540
Maybe we should table that one for tonight, then.

1159
01:35:56,540 --> 01:35:57,540
Okay.

1160
01:35:57,540 --> 01:35:58,540
Okay.

1161
01:35:58,540 --> 01:36:07,740
But if you don't mind, then, what we'll do is, so it sounds like director grabs can

1162
01:36:07,740 --> 01:36:17,100
work with other districts to help offset costs for next year to looking at the 26, 27

1163
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:37,020
dollars.

1164
01:36:37,020 --> 01:36:40,980
If someone's speaking, the volume just cut out.

1165
01:36:41,980 --> 01:36:47,980
Dan, can you go to the microphone, thanks.

1166
01:36:47,980 --> 01:36:58,060
If we're speaking solely on co-ops, it's possible.

1167
01:36:58,060 --> 01:37:03,060
We have about two weeks, about 15-ish days, to get those things done.

1168
01:37:03,060 --> 01:37:07,980
Other schools that have to do exactly what you all would have to do, which is approve,

1169
01:37:07,980 --> 01:37:10,820
you know, and go through that process.

1170
01:37:10,820 --> 01:37:15,580
I'm not overly confident that many want to share with us right now, but we've floated

1171
01:37:15,580 --> 01:37:16,580
the idea.

1172
01:37:16,580 --> 01:37:21,820
So we have options in girl soccer and softball, which are two of our spring sports.

1173
01:37:21,820 --> 01:37:22,820
Okay.

1174
01:37:22,820 --> 01:37:27,460
Megan, your hand is up.

1175
01:37:27,460 --> 01:37:28,460
Yes.

1176
01:37:28,460 --> 01:37:29,460
Mr. Graz.

1177
01:37:29,460 --> 01:37:30,460
Thank you so much.

1178
01:37:30,460 --> 01:37:34,060
I'm totally like down for like, let's make something work if we can.

1179
01:37:34,060 --> 01:37:37,260
I think one of the reasons we wanted to have this workshop was so that you could kind of

1180
01:37:37,260 --> 01:37:41,660
talk us through and help us understand what the budget impact would be to go into those

1181
01:37:41,660 --> 01:37:43,500
partnerships this year.

1182
01:37:43,500 --> 01:37:48,540
So I am like, I want to do whatever we need to do, but I need a little bit more information

1183
01:37:48,540 --> 01:37:53,940
so that I understand if we were to vote or take action to say, yeah, let's go do co-ops,

1184
01:37:53,940 --> 01:37:58,300
what is that impact on the district and where does that leave us?

1185
01:37:58,300 --> 01:38:01,940
We won't know that answer until we know how many players total we're splitting the cost

1186
01:38:01,940 --> 01:38:03,580
between.

1187
01:38:03,580 --> 01:38:07,780
So we use the example of hockey and let me back up.

1188
01:38:07,780 --> 01:38:11,580
You're not approving, you're just approving exploration.

1189
01:38:11,580 --> 01:38:16,180
So when you hear that we're taught, I've been talking with, you know, Rock County Christian

1190
01:38:16,180 --> 01:38:21,140
or TLA or Clinton or Parkview or, you know, any of the schools around us that there's

1191
01:38:21,140 --> 01:38:22,540
not any surprises.

1192
01:38:22,540 --> 01:38:23,540
So that's the first piece.

1193
01:38:23,540 --> 01:38:28,340
But the second piece is in hockey, for example, we split our costs between the 25 athletes.

1194
01:38:28,340 --> 01:38:30,060
So that's where it saves us money.

1195
01:38:30,060 --> 01:38:36,540
Each athlete is given a bill, I shouldn't say, each school is given a bill based on

1196
01:38:36,540 --> 01:38:38,860
the amount of athletes that they have.

1197
01:38:38,860 --> 01:38:43,660
Without knowing, for example, if we were to share with TLA just because they're right

1198
01:38:43,660 --> 01:38:47,380
here, we don't know how many athletes they would provide us at this point.

1199
01:38:47,380 --> 01:38:49,180
There's multiple steps to this.

1200
01:38:49,180 --> 01:38:56,380
Part of the application process is to list out the amount of athletes that would go through.

1201
01:38:56,380 --> 01:38:58,740
So that is one step in that process.

1202
01:38:58,740 --> 01:39:03,260
That's what we do every year, every other year, I guess, with our renewal with hockey.

1203
01:39:03,260 --> 01:39:07,980
And we have to kind of map that out from middle school through high school, how many are

1204
01:39:07,980 --> 01:39:09,380
graduating, how many are coming in.

1205
01:39:09,380 --> 01:39:11,300
I wish I could give you more of a clear answer.

1206
01:39:11,300 --> 01:39:13,700
I don't think that's an option for cost saving.

1207
01:39:13,700 --> 01:39:19,580
I don't think it is, if you go back and talk with conversation around properties, I don't

1208
01:39:19,580 --> 01:39:21,460
know that you're, we don't know the answer.

1209
01:39:21,460 --> 01:39:22,820
We don't know how much we're going to save.

1210
01:39:22,820 --> 01:39:26,580
So I don't know that that's an effective strategy right now.

1211
01:39:26,580 --> 01:39:30,220
I think it's an effective long-term strategy, but right now, I don't know that it's one

1212
01:39:30,220 --> 01:39:32,820
that we can bank on for cost saving.

1213
01:39:32,820 --> 01:39:34,060
No, that makes a ton of sense.

1214
01:39:34,060 --> 01:39:35,220
Thank you so much.

1215
01:39:35,220 --> 01:39:36,220
I'm in faith.

1216
01:39:36,220 --> 01:39:37,220
Sorry, my kids are allowed.

1217
01:39:37,220 --> 01:39:40,900
I am definitely in favor of partnering wherever we can.

1218
01:39:40,900 --> 01:39:41,900
I think that's great.

1219
01:39:41,900 --> 01:39:45,620
And I think Mr. grads, I think it'll not only help us as a board, but I think it'll be

1220
01:39:45,620 --> 01:39:47,660
a huge benefit to the community.

1221
01:39:47,660 --> 01:39:50,260
You've done some really creative, cool stuff.

1222
01:39:50,260 --> 01:39:55,460
If you could, at some point in the near future, it doesn't feel like a whole presentation,

1223
01:39:55,460 --> 01:40:00,660
but just maybe provide us a more detailed overview of here are all the moving parts

1224
01:40:00,660 --> 01:40:01,660
in place here.

1225
01:40:01,660 --> 01:40:04,740
Here's the extent to which and how, just generally, I hear what you're saying, we're

1226
01:40:04,740 --> 01:40:08,860
not going to know specific numbers and stuff, but hey, here are the current and maybe future

1227
01:40:08,860 --> 01:40:13,940
potential partnerships with other school districts, with youth sports through city and other

1228
01:40:13,940 --> 01:40:15,540
nonprofit groups, et cetera.

1229
01:40:15,540 --> 01:40:21,420
I think having that big picture of you will be very helpful to community buy-in and clarity

1230
01:40:21,420 --> 01:40:24,820
for the direction that we're going to make sure that we're not leaving our kids behind

1231
01:40:24,860 --> 01:40:26,340
in conversations about budgets.

1232
01:40:26,340 --> 01:40:27,620
I really appreciate the work you're doing.

1233
01:40:27,620 --> 01:40:32,020
I really want you to be able to like share it so we can show it off with and for you.

1234
01:40:32,020 --> 01:40:35,820
So, but yeah, just specifically to this ask, yes, let's do the partnerships.

1235
01:40:35,820 --> 01:40:36,820
Joanne?

1236
01:40:36,820 --> 01:40:37,820
Cool.

1237
01:40:37,820 --> 01:40:38,820
Thank you.

1238
01:40:38,820 --> 01:40:45,580
Megan, that leads right into what I was coming to talk about.

1239
01:40:45,580 --> 01:40:46,820
I've talked to you before, Dan.

1240
01:40:46,820 --> 01:40:53,220
I know you have some really great ideas about our facilities and how we can use them to

1241
01:40:53,220 --> 01:40:58,900
help us maybe get a little bit of money to rentaling out our pool or things like that,

1242
01:40:58,900 --> 01:41:04,540
the parks and rec department having partnerships with them.

1243
01:41:04,540 --> 01:41:09,420
And then kind of like Dr. Anderson had his tail of two budgets.

1244
01:41:09,420 --> 01:41:17,500
If we could possibly get, yeah, I know they were fine, if you have like your version of

1245
01:41:17,500 --> 01:41:26,100
tail of two budgets that would help us see like what a real, like in order to have it

1246
01:41:26,100 --> 01:41:29,740
be fully funded next year, what that would actually look like.

1247
01:41:29,740 --> 01:41:35,420
And then where you would make cuts if you had to.

1248
01:41:35,420 --> 01:41:46,660
And then like hopefully the nonessential games and things being the first things to be taken

1249
01:41:46,660 --> 01:41:47,660
away.

1250
01:41:47,660 --> 01:41:49,580
Yeah, absolutely.

1251
01:41:49,580 --> 01:41:54,820
So I think last we met, you asked me to provide the information.

1252
01:41:54,820 --> 01:41:59,460
So I had created a presentation in multiple budgets last year in anticipation that we

1253
01:41:59,460 --> 01:42:02,980
weren't going to be able to fit under the current budget the allotment.

1254
01:42:02,980 --> 01:42:09,700
So I've kind of just given a fast, what is, you know, a very detailed but fast snapshot.

1255
01:42:09,700 --> 01:42:14,820
This is a, this holistic plan to hit all of those pieces that you just touched on has

1256
01:42:14,820 --> 01:42:20,500
been after my first six or so months, what do we need to do to help this district move

1257
01:42:20,500 --> 01:42:22,500
forward in the variety of capacities.

1258
01:42:22,500 --> 01:42:26,860
And I obviously, my role is athletics and activities, but we have many boys.

1259
01:42:26,860 --> 01:42:30,380
I spend an immense amount of time in the community talking with community members.

1260
01:42:30,380 --> 01:42:34,100
My role inherently just, you know, brings that in.

1261
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:37,180
And so listening to the community, talking through all those things, understanding what

1262
01:42:37,180 --> 01:42:44,380
we have available for City Parks and Rec for YMCA, Boys and Girls Club, Rising Tide, organized

1263
01:42:44,380 --> 01:42:50,700
I should say established youth organizations throughout, there are so many options.

1264
01:42:50,700 --> 01:42:56,700
I think we need to, Ms. Miller hit on it, I think we need to lean into our community.

1265
01:42:56,700 --> 01:42:58,460
We need to be creative.

1266
01:42:58,460 --> 01:43:02,420
We need to find ways to establish options.

1267
01:43:02,420 --> 01:43:08,260
And we need to find, we need to be creative as we go through our budgeting.

1268
01:43:08,260 --> 01:43:11,940
The snapshot that we provided, so at the very top it just talks about the year over

1269
01:43:11,940 --> 01:43:13,460
your budgets, right?

1270
01:43:13,460 --> 01:43:21,220
If we were going to get our budget to 255, which is a 20 to 25% decrease from the previous

1271
01:43:21,220 --> 01:43:28,100
years, 321, from the previous years, 318, we needed to cut about 20 to 25% of our sports.

1272
01:43:28,100 --> 01:43:29,100
We have those options.

1273
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:34,020
We don't want those things to be cut and the community would very much just like that.

1274
01:43:34,020 --> 01:43:37,940
So to offset those costs, we presented the option of cutting middle school sports.

1275
01:43:37,940 --> 01:43:40,300
And again, it's not a viable option.

1276
01:43:40,300 --> 01:43:43,580
It's just the best of the bad options we're presented.

1277
01:43:43,580 --> 01:43:48,660
So we were able to backfill and still have those relationships built to be able to backfill

1278
01:43:48,660 --> 01:43:52,620
with community partners and established community partners.

1279
01:43:52,620 --> 01:43:58,540
There's a multi-step piece here, and I apologize, this is an incredibly long answer, but each

1280
01:43:58,540 --> 01:44:02,620
of these pieces lays out how we can go from one to the next to the next.

1281
01:44:02,620 --> 01:44:07,980
And so when we cut middle school sports, if that's the route that we go, that saves

1282
01:44:07,980 --> 01:44:10,980
us, I think Dr. Anderson has estimated 80,000.

1283
01:44:10,980 --> 01:44:14,500
I think it's closer just because I'm seeing the operational pieces.

1284
01:44:14,500 --> 01:44:17,700
I think it's closer to 100, I put 105.

1285
01:44:17,700 --> 01:44:24,000
The issue with the range and where we're struggling is the addendums have a salary

1286
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,980
range to them, a step-by-step pay scale.

1287
01:44:26,980 --> 01:44:32,540
So between the lowest and the highest amount is a range of four middle school, about $40

1288
01:44:32,540 --> 01:44:35,580
ish, $1,000, which is a lot of money.

1289
01:44:35,580 --> 01:44:39,620
So that's one piece there.

1290
01:44:39,620 --> 01:44:41,740
The next piece would be replacing with community partners.

1291
01:44:41,740 --> 01:44:45,860
To do that, though, we need a substantial investment in Fund 80.

1292
01:44:45,860 --> 01:44:51,260
You'll see the Fund 80 investment piece is buried a little bit in here, but it's the

1293
01:44:51,260 --> 01:44:55,140
page turned sideways, where it just lays out every single piece that we would need.

1294
01:44:55,140 --> 01:44:58,700
We would need to invest in community partners.

1295
01:44:58,700 --> 01:45:00,580
We would need to have somebody to manage that.

1296
01:45:00,580 --> 01:45:04,020
We would need to have, if we wanted to open the pool up, we would need to make sure we

1297
01:45:04,020 --> 01:45:07,100
provide lifeguards to protect ourselves from liability, to open the weight room.

1298
01:45:07,100 --> 01:45:10,660
We need training to, you know, there's multiple steps to that.

1299
01:45:10,660 --> 01:45:16,380
So I'm happy to, you know, and more as this is a workshop setting, to go through all these

1300
01:45:16,380 --> 01:45:17,380
pieces.

1301
01:45:17,380 --> 01:45:20,300
I didn't intentionally avoid giving this to Ms. Shope.

1302
01:45:20,300 --> 01:45:25,380
It was, I was summoned late to this meeting, so I was able to try to get everything together

1303
01:45:25,380 --> 01:45:26,780
as fast as I could.

1304
01:45:26,780 --> 01:45:28,700
We'll absolutely share this publicly.

1305
01:45:28,700 --> 01:45:32,900
We want people to know about it, and in fact people do because we've had to have those

1306
01:45:32,900 --> 01:45:37,620
conversations with, you know, established youth organizations to be able to do this.

1307
01:45:37,620 --> 01:45:41,620
So people know that we're considering this as an option.

1308
01:45:41,620 --> 01:45:47,060
And you saw how quickly even just the inkling of a conversation of cutting athletics created

1309
01:45:47,060 --> 01:45:50,980
an uproar in the community, I'm very much trying to mitigate that and trying to, you

1310
01:45:50,980 --> 01:45:54,660
know, help people understand where we're at.

1311
01:45:54,660 --> 01:46:01,780
I mean, everybody likes football and basketball, but I can't in good faith, you know, can't

1312
01:46:01,780 --> 01:46:07,500
in good faith try to argue to keep certain things without making our own cuts to athletics

1313
01:46:07,500 --> 01:46:08,900
and how we can replace those things.

1314
01:46:08,900 --> 01:46:11,820
So like I said, a very long answer and a lot to do there.

1315
01:46:11,820 --> 01:46:16,020
So what questions can I answer as you're seeing this?

1316
01:46:16,020 --> 01:46:19,300
Thank you, Mr. Gratz.

1317
01:46:19,300 --> 01:46:28,340
Getting back to collaborations in that May 1st deadline, fast forward to if your budget

1318
01:46:28,340 --> 01:46:33,500
is reduced by 100,000 and middle school sports go away, is there a timeline to have

1319
01:46:33,500 --> 01:46:43,260
these collaborations with middle school sports, i.e., rising tide or intramural or, you know,

1320
01:46:43,260 --> 01:46:49,820
if your budget is reduced, do we need to or do you need to have some kind of timeline

1321
01:46:49,820 --> 01:46:52,180
so you get these pieces in line.

1322
01:46:52,180 --> 01:47:01,300
So in the fall at Aldridge and Fruzen, there's a place for footballers to go and soccer.

1323
01:47:01,300 --> 01:47:02,300
Thank you.

1324
01:47:02,300 --> 01:47:08,380
Yeah, we have obviously time and distance is helpful in our world because we've already

1325
01:47:08,380 --> 01:47:09,460
had these conversations.

1326
01:47:09,460 --> 01:47:13,860
We have a few sports essentially ready to go with others.

1327
01:47:13,860 --> 01:47:20,060
Now there's still steps to be taken, obviously, and they're still approval to be needed.

1328
01:47:20,060 --> 01:47:26,860
So we want to make sure that if the sooner the better because then we can start to establish

1329
01:47:26,860 --> 01:47:29,540
those things and say, hey, we know this is gone.

1330
01:47:29,540 --> 01:47:37,580
We already know from a safety and liability standpoint that we have to move football.

1331
01:47:37,580 --> 01:47:40,980
It has to go outside of the district as most have.

1332
01:47:40,980 --> 01:47:44,740
This past year, it hadn't been done in the past.

1333
01:47:44,740 --> 01:47:49,780
We had to refurbish all of our helmets from both middle schools and that is a yearly thing

1334
01:47:49,780 --> 01:47:54,100
at the high school for safety and we lost about 45 of those helmets, which means they

1335
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:56,500
hadn't been done in over seven years.

1336
01:47:56,500 --> 01:47:57,900
That's a problem.

1337
01:47:57,900 --> 01:48:02,140
And then to fix that, we then have to buy and replace those helmets, right?

1338
01:48:02,140 --> 01:48:06,980
So just helmets alone, just for your knowledge is about $450 per helmet.

1339
01:48:06,980 --> 01:48:09,820
So yeah, it all adds up.

1340
01:48:09,820 --> 01:48:11,420
I think that's an easy one.

1341
01:48:11,420 --> 01:48:14,060
I've asked our middle school coordinators to help me with this to kind of lay out a step

1342
01:48:14,060 --> 01:48:19,180
by step of if we were only kind of tear down cuts, which ones would it be and how would

1343
01:48:19,180 --> 01:48:23,060
we go through that versus just all of them?

1344
01:48:23,060 --> 01:48:31,100
And then if we do make that large substantial cut, then it has to, I think I tried to articulate

1345
01:48:31,100 --> 01:48:32,100
this.

1346
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:35,580
We're just reallocating those dollars to the high school so we can see as a little impact

1347
01:48:35,580 --> 01:48:39,580
to the high school athletic budget as possible.

1348
01:48:39,580 --> 01:48:41,700
We can keep going through those pieces.

1349
01:48:41,700 --> 01:48:44,300
We can backfill middle school sports.

1350
01:48:44,300 --> 01:48:48,940
I put a note in here, the current layout of middle school sports is not realistic.

1351
01:48:48,940 --> 01:48:49,940
It doesn't work the way it does.

1352
01:48:49,940 --> 01:48:50,940
It's six weeks.

1353
01:48:50,940 --> 01:48:53,220
The staffing model is poor.

1354
01:48:53,220 --> 01:48:54,220
It just doesn't work.

1355
01:48:54,220 --> 01:48:56,060
I think it was a good try.

1356
01:48:56,060 --> 01:49:00,500
But we've seen Jamesville, not to rip on Jamesville, but we've seen Jamesville do this

1357
01:49:00,500 --> 01:49:04,460
for a little bit longer than we have, and it's really hindering the high school development.

1358
01:49:04,460 --> 01:49:09,420
And so we're trying to, we need to make a change if we're just talking philosophically

1359
01:49:09,420 --> 01:49:10,420
and it goadily.

1360
01:49:10,420 --> 01:49:11,420
Go ahead.

1361
01:49:11,420 --> 01:49:16,820
So Dan, before you were here, the middle school did not have football for a little

1362
01:49:16,820 --> 01:49:22,860
while, and the biggest downfall with it was the lack of communication with parents

1363
01:49:22,860 --> 01:49:27,220
about what other opportunities there were to sign up for football in the community.

1364
01:49:27,220 --> 01:49:31,420
So that would be really important once we get to that point, too.

1365
01:49:31,420 --> 01:49:32,420
Yep.

1366
01:49:32,420 --> 01:49:38,460
And as we're talking, and I, you know, again, you feel bad for asking, but to advocate

1367
01:49:38,460 --> 01:49:42,140
for the point you just made, we need somebody in charge of community programming.

1368
01:49:42,140 --> 01:49:43,700
I mean, that's really what it comes down to.

1369
01:49:43,700 --> 01:49:48,180
And that's not just sports for the middle school and high school.

1370
01:49:48,180 --> 01:49:50,340
That is all things community related.

1371
01:49:50,340 --> 01:49:55,540
So right now, we've kind of absorbed with the business office, you know, creating parks

1372
01:49:55,540 --> 01:50:00,540
and recs opportunity in the fieldhouse, or, you know, utilizing the pool with YMCA or Boys

1373
01:50:00,540 --> 01:50:04,620
and Girls Club or things like that.

1374
01:50:04,620 --> 01:50:07,900
If we want to keep investing and kind of leaning into that, which I believe we should, because

1375
01:50:07,900 --> 01:50:13,300
it selfishly is going to help us in any future referendum we do, the pie has to get bigger.

1376
01:50:13,300 --> 01:50:17,300
So there's just not enough time between, you know, everybody absorbing more and more.

1377
01:50:17,300 --> 01:50:25,380
Dan, a follow-up on middle school sports and back-filling through organizations, is that

1378
01:50:25,380 --> 01:50:27,980
more of a pay-to-play type situation?

1379
01:50:27,980 --> 01:50:30,940
Likely, but we already pay to play here.

1380
01:50:30,940 --> 01:50:36,420
So I think to answer your question, we're paying $42 per sport right now, up to two.

1381
01:50:36,420 --> 01:50:42,420
And so our intent is to, if we can support as a district, if we can support these things

1382
01:50:42,420 --> 01:50:51,820
with Fund 80, we have the opportunity to drastically decrease costs for any and all

1383
01:50:51,820 --> 01:50:55,180
taxpayers and the city of boys that want to play in any of these sports.

1384
01:50:55,180 --> 01:50:58,900
So that's the one limitation, obviously, is it's no longer just SDB students.

1385
01:50:58,900 --> 01:51:01,780
We have to open it up to anybody.

1386
01:51:01,780 --> 01:51:08,540
But I think there is a massive opportunity to be different here and just to do something

1387
01:51:08,540 --> 01:51:10,500
that matters for these kids.

1388
01:51:10,860 --> 01:51:12,500
And I agree, thank you.

1389
01:51:12,500 --> 01:51:14,940
Carol?

1390
01:51:14,940 --> 01:51:19,580
Okay, I'm not a sports person, so bear with me.

1391
01:51:19,580 --> 01:51:28,900
But you're looking at cutting the middle school programming to save $100,000 and hiring a

1392
01:51:28,900 --> 01:51:32,220
position to coordinate that.

1393
01:51:32,220 --> 01:51:38,020
But you want to move all of that money into Fund 80, is that what I'm hearing you saying?

1394
01:51:38,020 --> 01:51:39,220
Partially, yeah.

1395
01:51:39,220 --> 01:51:41,620
So cut middle school athletics.

1396
01:51:41,620 --> 01:51:48,340
In order to do that, we need, and the vision, if you can follow it, is to, or I guess, excuse

1397
01:51:48,340 --> 01:51:54,980
me, if you can follow my brain that's relatively scattered and large-scale thinking, the vision

1398
01:51:54,980 --> 01:51:57,060
is to backfill with community sports.

1399
01:51:57,060 --> 01:52:00,740
To do that, we would need somebody in charge of managing community programming.

1400
01:52:00,740 --> 01:52:04,700
We don't have the ability to do all those things right now.

1401
01:52:04,700 --> 01:52:05,700
We can.

1402
01:52:05,700 --> 01:52:08,700
It's just never going to work the way that it should, right, and be as efficient as it

1403
01:52:08,700 --> 01:52:10,060
could be.

1404
01:52:10,060 --> 01:52:14,420
And so the middle school is a piece of what community programming, K-12, and what the

1405
01:52:14,420 --> 01:52:15,900
city of boy would look like.

1406
01:52:15,900 --> 01:52:17,700
Does that answer the question?

1407
01:52:17,700 --> 01:52:22,100
And you said not just sports, but other things that you have other community things in mind,

1408
01:52:22,100 --> 01:52:24,740
besides just sports for this community director?

1409
01:52:24,740 --> 01:52:25,740
Or no?

1410
01:52:25,740 --> 01:52:26,740
Oh, absolutely.

1411
01:52:26,740 --> 01:52:29,300
Yeah, so we, so if we're talking about, you know, we have our sports from the middle

1412
01:52:29,300 --> 01:52:30,300
schools.

1413
01:52:30,300 --> 01:52:31,300
That's one piece.

1414
01:52:31,300 --> 01:52:32,300
We have youth programming all over.

1415
01:52:32,300 --> 01:52:33,300
We have theater.

1416
01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:37,660
We have usage of the pool through, right now we have a, you know, pool that doesn't

1417
01:52:37,660 --> 01:52:41,420
work in the city, and there's a lot of conversations about what they're going to

1418
01:52:41,420 --> 01:52:42,420
do with that.

1419
01:52:42,420 --> 01:52:45,780
So I think the majority of it, because this is the world that I live in, the majority

1420
01:52:45,780 --> 01:52:52,180
of it comes from, comes from that sports side, and the usage of our facilities comes

1421
01:52:52,180 --> 01:52:54,300
from that sports side, right?

1422
01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:56,100
I think it can absolutely expand.

1423
01:52:56,100 --> 01:52:59,300
It's just expand into what is needed for the community.

1424
01:52:59,300 --> 01:53:07,220
So all of those programs would include all students from City of Blight, no matter what

1425
01:53:07,220 --> 01:53:08,940
school they attended.

1426
01:53:08,940 --> 01:53:11,260
If it were to go into funding, that would have to be the key.

1427
01:53:11,260 --> 01:53:12,260
It would have to be.

1428
01:53:12,260 --> 01:53:15,260
That's the way it would have to be.

1429
01:53:15,260 --> 01:53:16,260
Okay.

1430
01:53:16,260 --> 01:53:22,260
My only other question, and I know you had a quick snapshot to put this together, you

1431
01:53:22,260 --> 01:53:29,580
know, the number of students who are in some of these events, and, you know, how many

1432
01:53:29,580 --> 01:53:36,420
students are we impacting when we have these particular sports, especially at the high,

1433
01:53:36,420 --> 01:53:41,620
high school level, but even at the middle school, at this point, but, you know, how

1434
01:53:41,620 --> 01:53:47,420
many students are in some of these programs, and what would the impact be if we were needing

1435
01:53:47,420 --> 01:53:51,580
to change some of those options?

1436
01:53:51,580 --> 01:53:59,380
Talking about the middle school first, right now we're seeing about 250, not all, not

1437
01:53:59,380 --> 01:54:00,380
unique athletes.

1438
01:54:00,380 --> 01:54:05,340
So we see 250 in totality, which some can do multiple sports.

1439
01:54:05,340 --> 01:54:10,740
The high school, again, same not unique athletes, but last year we had about 825.

1440
01:54:10,740 --> 01:54:12,180
This year we're on pace for that.

1441
01:54:12,180 --> 01:54:13,180
We're going to be right around that.

1442
01:54:13,180 --> 01:54:15,500
Senior classes is pretty small for this group.

1443
01:54:15,500 --> 01:54:18,180
So, you know, not, again, not unique.

1444
01:54:18,180 --> 01:54:22,460
We have some kids that are two or three sport athletes, so we may be triple counting some

1445
01:54:22,460 --> 01:54:25,580
of these kids, but that number is not crazy.

1446
01:54:25,580 --> 01:54:32,580
That's just a handful of student athletes.

1447
01:54:32,580 --> 01:54:44,020
Okay, so it's just back.

1448
01:54:44,020 --> 01:54:46,260
So we have wrestling, you know.

1449
01:54:46,260 --> 01:54:47,460
How many kids are in wrestling?

1450
01:54:47,460 --> 01:54:51,060
Do you need a coach and an assistant coach?

1451
01:54:51,060 --> 01:54:53,740
That kind of thing.

1452
01:54:53,740 --> 01:54:58,860
You know, can we, would there be ways to cut some of those?

1453
01:54:58,860 --> 01:55:02,420
You know, that's, I think, kind of what I'm looking at.

1454
01:55:02,420 --> 01:55:04,220
So how many kids are there?

1455
01:55:04,220 --> 01:55:10,220
Do we really need both coaches, that kind of stuff?

1456
01:55:10,220 --> 01:55:13,740
Which level, just holistically?

1457
01:55:13,740 --> 01:55:18,900
I think the answer is we're about as close as we can get right now.

1458
01:55:18,980 --> 01:55:23,900
I think any time we get to a one to multiple ratio when we're traveling and moving around

1459
01:55:23,900 --> 01:55:27,180
and things like that, it creates viability.

1460
01:55:27,180 --> 01:55:35,580
It's definitely possible, but we have four total coaches for two teams right now for girls

1461
01:55:35,580 --> 01:55:36,580
and boys wrestling.

1462
01:55:36,580 --> 01:55:42,060
So we have one head coach for each, and right now boys has two assistant coaches.

1463
01:55:43,060 --> 01:55:49,900
Essentially they work together as it is, but that program is serving about in total between

1464
01:55:49,900 --> 01:55:51,740
girls and boys is about 60 athletes.

1465
01:55:51,740 --> 01:55:59,660
So we're right on par with the ratio minimum for a classroom, although we treat athletics

1466
01:55:59,660 --> 01:56:04,420
slightly different because of the liability side.

1467
01:56:05,420 --> 01:56:14,060
Okay, so I have been informed that there's some nasty weather heading our way quickly.

1468
01:56:14,060 --> 01:56:18,140
So does the board want to continue this discussion in person?

1469
01:56:18,140 --> 01:56:20,460
Do we want to go virtual?

1470
01:56:20,460 --> 01:56:29,940
Do we want to recess and reconvene in half or what do we want to do?

1471
01:56:29,940 --> 01:56:30,940
How concerned?

1472
01:56:30,940 --> 01:56:31,940
At home.

1473
01:56:31,940 --> 01:56:45,380
I think you guys should recess and reconvene or we can do this another night.

1474
01:56:45,380 --> 01:56:56,460
I'm off a reconvening as long as we can decide tonight when that is 25 minutes, sorry.

1475
01:56:56,460 --> 01:57:02,300
I said I'm off a reconvening for safety reasons, but as long as we, we, the board

1476
01:57:02,300 --> 01:57:07,500
makes a decision on when we can meet again tonight.

1477
01:57:07,500 --> 01:57:21,900
Okay, so let's recess and we'll all reconvene virtually Mrs. Shope, I think then we'll lose

1478
01:57:21,900 --> 01:57:25,940
our ability to finish recording it, is that correct?

1479
01:57:25,940 --> 01:57:29,860
No, I can start to record it again.

1480
01:57:29,860 --> 01:57:30,860
Okay.

1481
01:57:30,860 --> 01:57:38,180
Is everybody locked in on your Google Meet and one of the everybody box back into the

1482
01:57:38,180 --> 01:57:39,180
Google Meet?

1483
01:57:39,180 --> 01:57:42,020
I can record again from Google Meet.

1484
01:57:42,020 --> 01:57:44,020
From your residency?

1485
01:57:44,020 --> 01:57:45,020
Yes.

1486
01:57:45,020 --> 01:57:46,020
Okay.

1487
01:57:46,020 --> 01:57:47,020
Okay.

1488
01:57:48,020 --> 01:57:49,020
Okay.

1489
01:57:49,020 --> 01:57:50,020
Okay.

1490
01:57:50,020 --> 01:57:51,020
Let's, it's 7.30.

1491
01:57:51,020 --> 01:57:56,020
Let's recess and reconvene virtually at eight o'clock.

1492
01:57:56,020 --> 01:57:57,020
Bye.

1493
01:57:57,020 --> 01:57:58,020
Be safe everybody.

1494
01:57:58,020 --> 01:57:59,020
Thanks, Dan.

1495
01:58:18,020 --> 01:58:24,020
Green telephone number ending in seven, seven.

1496
01:58:24,020 --> 01:58:26,020
That's the address.

1497
01:58:26,020 --> 01:58:27,020
Okay.

1498
01:58:27,020 --> 01:58:29,020
That's the address.

1499
01:58:29,020 --> 01:58:30,020
Okay.

1500
01:58:30,020 --> 01:58:31,020
Michelle, you ready?

1501
01:58:31,020 --> 01:58:33,020
Yes, I am.

1502
01:58:33,020 --> 01:58:34,020
Okay.

1503
01:58:34,020 --> 01:58:42,020
So it is eight on one and we have a quorum, Carol Fox, Brian Nichols, Joanne, Ru and myself.

1504
01:58:43,020 --> 01:58:51,020
And we are continuing where we left off and Megan Miller has just joined.

1505
01:58:51,020 --> 01:58:52,020
You'll have to forgive me.

1506
01:58:52,020 --> 01:58:59,020
I forgot who had a question for Mr. grads and where we were in that process.

1507
01:58:59,020 --> 01:59:03,020
Michelle, can you help reframe my memory or Megan?

1508
01:59:03,020 --> 01:59:07,020
Yeah, no, I was just going to say, I really appreciated.

1509
01:59:07,020 --> 01:59:09,020
I don't know, is Dan on the call still?

1510
01:59:09,020 --> 01:59:10,020
Yeah.

1511
01:59:11,020 --> 01:59:12,020
Oh, it's okay.

1512
01:59:12,020 --> 01:59:13,020
Oh, hey, what's up?

1513
01:59:13,020 --> 01:59:14,020
How's it going?

1514
01:59:14,020 --> 01:59:16,020
I met Mr. grads, but hi, Dan.

1515
01:59:16,020 --> 01:59:19,020
I was just, I was just going to say, Mr. grads.

1516
01:59:19,020 --> 01:59:25,020
Just to be clear, I really, really liked the whole vision that you painted and particularly

1517
01:59:25,020 --> 01:59:27,020
my suggestion for next steps.

1518
01:59:27,020 --> 01:59:32,020
If this isn't already on your radar, if we're going to capitalize on current staff,

1519
01:59:32,020 --> 01:59:35,020
because I liked what he was saying about needing like kind of that community

1520
01:59:35,020 --> 01:59:36,020
coordination piece.

1521
01:59:37,020 --> 01:59:40,020
I'm just like people like Mary Ellen Fuentes and forgive me for not knowing

1522
01:59:40,020 --> 01:59:43,020
who's at the other schools, but my kid goes to Ted or my kids go to Ted.

1523
01:59:43,020 --> 01:59:47,020
So that's who I know who has been coordinating CLC for like ever.

1524
01:59:47,020 --> 01:59:52,020
We have people already in the district also who have just such like depth of

1525
01:59:52,020 --> 01:59:55,020
knowledge and community connections who've been doing things like the CLC

1526
01:59:55,020 --> 01:59:56,020
programming already.

1527
01:59:56,020 --> 02:00:01,020
I know like way back in 2017, 2018, we used to have like a CLC coordinator.

1528
02:00:01,020 --> 02:00:03,020
I'm not, I'm not an administrator.

1529
02:00:04,020 --> 02:00:06,020
I don't want to make recommendations about what is or isn't wise like

1530
02:00:06,020 --> 02:00:08,020
organizationally or for the structure of admin.

1531
02:00:08,020 --> 02:00:11,020
But we already have people in the district who kind of know this.

1532
02:00:11,020 --> 02:00:14,020
So like in, in the meantime, you know, like in the short term,

1533
02:00:14,020 --> 02:00:19,020
maybe convening those folks together to say like, what are our next best steps?

1534
02:00:19,020 --> 02:00:21,020
I think would be awesome.

1535
02:00:21,020 --> 02:00:24,020
And I think that also works in tandem with kind of like what we were talking

1536
02:00:24,020 --> 02:00:28,020
about earlier with fund 80 about having administration plus whoever else

1537
02:00:29,020 --> 02:00:34,020
they do necessary meet with all of these local agencies, right?

1538
02:00:34,020 --> 02:00:36,020
To kind of make that larger community plan.

1539
02:00:36,020 --> 02:00:39,020
So I'm just wondering if these things can segue together,

1540
02:00:39,020 --> 02:00:42,020
but I just, I guess I wanted to just express appreciation for the vision that

1541
02:00:42,020 --> 02:00:44,020
Dan's share, Dan grads is sharing with us.

1542
02:00:44,020 --> 02:00:48,020
And I'm just like really in support of kind of that assets based community

1543
02:00:48,020 --> 02:00:52,020
development, like keep the stuff you have, like work with what you have and just like

1544
02:00:52,020 --> 02:00:55,020
restructure it in a way that like achieves the vision that we need,

1545
02:00:55,020 --> 02:00:58,020
given the scarcity of the situation that we currently have.

1546
02:01:01,020 --> 02:01:02,020
Thank you.

1547
02:01:02,020 --> 02:01:04,020
Director, I would.

1548
02:01:04,020 --> 02:01:08,020
So it looks like one of the recommendations that Mr.

1549
02:01:08,020 --> 02:01:14,020
grads has is adding a position of an associate director of athletics,

1550
02:01:14,020 --> 02:01:21,020
activities and community, which would come in and he's got the price take there

1551
02:01:21,020 --> 02:01:22,020
somewhere.

1552
02:01:22,020 --> 02:01:24,020
I'm just trying to find it right now.

1553
02:01:24,020 --> 02:01:29,020
Is that something that can be covered under fund 80 can can staff positions be

1554
02:01:29,020 --> 02:01:30,020
covered under fund 80?

1555
02:01:31,020 --> 02:01:39,020
So the recommendation or the rules from the DPI on fund 80 and staffing is that

1556
02:01:39,020 --> 02:01:43,020
you have to do a time and effort study for staffing.

1557
02:01:43,020 --> 02:01:45,020
Especially if they're going to be split.

1558
02:01:45,020 --> 02:01:48,020
If they were 100% in fund 80 and all of their duties were fund 80,

1559
02:01:48,020 --> 02:01:53,020
that's there's no question there, but a split would need like a time study to

1560
02:01:53,020 --> 02:01:58,020
prove that what they're doing is related to that fund 80 piece.

1561
02:02:01,020 --> 02:02:02,020
Okay.

1562
02:02:02,020 --> 02:02:06,020
Do any other board members have any other questions or comments?

1563
02:02:10,020 --> 02:02:11,020
Okay.

1564
02:02:13,020 --> 02:02:14,020
Carol.

1565
02:02:15,020 --> 02:02:21,020
Is there something that you need from us right away other than we think this is a

1566
02:02:21,020 --> 02:02:25,020
good plan and to go forward with it or do you need something more?

1567
02:02:25,020 --> 02:02:27,020
I guess is my question.

1568
02:02:29,020 --> 02:02:33,020
I mean, I think the biggest thing is I can't speak if we need a voter any on this.

1569
02:02:33,020 --> 02:02:37,020
I'm not sure of the protocol for that side, but more or less.

1570
02:02:37,020 --> 02:02:41,020
I want you all to be aware and nobody be blindsided when a community member

1571
02:02:41,020 --> 02:02:44,020
asks you are you here in the community that we're thinking about doing these

1572
02:02:44,020 --> 02:02:47,020
things and planning really planning to do these things.

1573
02:02:47,020 --> 02:02:49,020
And, you know, we're doing that.

1574
02:02:49,020 --> 02:02:55,020
So I do feel like we need some sort of a blessing at least from you all to the

1575
02:02:55,020 --> 02:02:59,020
lack of a better phrase, but I don't know what that looks like.

1576
02:03:03,020 --> 02:03:07,020
Well, what I would like to see.

1577
02:03:08,020 --> 02:03:15,020
We can have put this on two next Tuesday's agenda as motion.

1578
02:03:18,020 --> 02:03:25,020
So if we could get some clarity on what the athletic budget discussion needs.

1579
02:03:25,020 --> 02:03:30,020
So the $100,000 to the athletic budget so that all current athletic teams can

1580
02:03:30,020 --> 02:03:33,020
operate in the 20 at the 2526 level.

1581
02:03:34,020 --> 02:03:36,020
Is Leah on.

1582
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:39,020
Or director Elwood.

1583
02:03:39,020 --> 02:03:41,020
If we could get some clarification.

1584
02:03:42,020 --> 02:03:43,020
Okay.

1585
02:03:43,020 --> 02:03:44,020
On what that is.

1586
02:03:44,020 --> 02:03:49,020
And then the other question was, or does the board want to have the administration

1587
02:03:49,020 --> 02:03:54,020
work with Dan grads to reduce our current athletic offerings so that it can operate

1588
02:03:54,020 --> 02:03:59,020
under the budget levels established for the 25 and the future years.

1589
02:04:00,020 --> 02:04:01,020
So.

1590
02:04:02,020 --> 02:04:03,020
If we do the.

1591
02:04:05,020 --> 02:04:09,020
Co-op community approach, that sounds like a really.

1592
02:04:09,020 --> 02:04:14,020
Good first step to start exploring and seeing what we can do,

1593
02:04:14,020 --> 02:04:17,020
seeing how much we can influence we can get.

1594
02:04:17,020 --> 02:04:22,020
But we still have this budget issues that we're still looking at and having to

1595
02:04:22,020 --> 02:04:26,020
deal with for this year and next year.

1596
02:04:27,020 --> 02:04:31,020
So I guess I would like this fleshed out a little bit better.

1597
02:04:31,020 --> 02:04:36,020
So I have a better understanding and I appreciate that.

1598
02:04:36,020 --> 02:04:40,020
Mr. grads put this together and.

1599
02:04:40,020 --> 02:04:42,020
At last minute.

1600
02:04:42,020 --> 02:04:46,020
I think we need time to digest it.

1601
02:04:48,020 --> 02:04:52,020
Unless any board members have any other suggestions at this moment.

1602
02:04:53,020 --> 02:04:54,020
Brian.

1603
02:04:56,020 --> 02:04:57,020
I would agree.

1604
02:04:57,020 --> 02:04:59,020
I think we need some more time to.

1605
02:04:59,020 --> 02:05:02,020
To peruse over this and study a little bit and give us some.

1606
02:05:02,020 --> 02:05:04,020
Give us some in depth, you know, a little more in depth thought.

1607
02:05:04,020 --> 02:05:06,020
So we'd be ready for Tuesday.

1608
02:05:07,020 --> 02:05:09,020
Thank you, Carol.

1609
02:05:09,020 --> 02:05:11,020
Yeah, I agree too.

1610
02:05:11,020 --> 02:05:16,020
And the way I read it, it is a way to cut the budget.

1611
02:05:17,020 --> 02:05:20,020
Budget somewhat by moving funds around.

1612
02:05:20,020 --> 02:05:23,020
So it does need to be framed as that. Correct.

1613
02:05:27,020 --> 02:05:29,020
Yes, that's correct. Yeah.

1614
02:05:29,020 --> 02:05:34,020
The goal is to try not to ask the district for the money that, you know,

1615
02:05:34,020 --> 02:05:35,020
the hundred thousand overage.

1616
02:05:36,020 --> 02:05:40,020
This presentation was given last year as a way to.

1617
02:05:40,020 --> 02:05:45,020
You know, to figure out how can we create more money within the district and

1618
02:05:45,020 --> 02:05:47,020
allocate funds to cover necessary.

1619
02:05:47,020 --> 02:05:50,020
Increases that we're seeing at the high school kind of, you know,

1620
02:05:50,020 --> 02:05:53,020
having foresight to be where we're at right now, unfortunately.

1621
02:05:53,020 --> 02:05:59,020
So I think, yeah, this is, this is absolutely the, the, the plan that I think we need to.

1622
02:05:59,020 --> 02:06:02,020
Exhaust first and foremost. And if this isn't the answer, then.

1623
02:06:02,020 --> 02:06:04,020
Go back to the drawing board.

1624
02:06:07,020 --> 02:06:08,020
Yeah, I have a question.

1625
02:06:08,020 --> 02:06:09,020
Sorry.

1626
02:06:09,020 --> 02:06:10,020
Oh, I'm sorry.

1627
02:06:10,020 --> 02:06:12,020
Megan.

1628
02:06:12,020 --> 02:06:13,020
Joanne.

1629
02:06:14,020 --> 02:06:18,020
No, you know, I lowered my hand because I want to let other people go first.

1630
02:06:18,020 --> 02:06:20,020
Is that okay? Oh, okay.

1631
02:06:20,020 --> 02:06:24,020
My screen still has your hand up. Joanne.

1632
02:06:24,020 --> 02:06:27,020
So Dan grads, I think.

1633
02:06:27,020 --> 02:06:31,020
So is there a way for us to.

1634
02:06:31,020 --> 02:06:34,020
This, this should help create.

1635
02:06:34,020 --> 02:06:36,020
Revenue, right?

1636
02:06:36,020 --> 02:06:40,020
Eventually, like renting out facilities, things like that.

1637
02:06:41,020 --> 02:06:46,020
Is that part of the paperwork that we have or.

1638
02:06:46,020 --> 02:06:50,020
No, no revenue projections are built in. I think it can.

1639
02:06:50,020 --> 02:06:54,020
Part of one of the policy pieces that we have right now is nonprofits.

1640
02:06:54,020 --> 02:06:56,020
Essentially, those fees are waived.

1641
02:06:56,020 --> 02:06:58,020
Minus costs to the district.

1642
02:06:58,020 --> 02:07:02,020
So a lot of the groups that are renting right now are nonprofits or,

1643
02:07:02,020 --> 02:07:04,020
or community partners.

1644
02:07:04,020 --> 02:07:07,020
So the answer, yes, it absolutely can.

1645
02:07:07,020 --> 02:07:12,020
As an example, we have table tennis nationals coming up.

1646
02:07:12,020 --> 02:07:16,020
That was recruited, I guess, by city visible.

1647
02:07:16,020 --> 02:07:20,020
And that is an opportunity to generate revenue.

1648
02:07:20,020 --> 02:07:22,020
Not necessarily from the rental fees.

1649
02:07:22,020 --> 02:07:25,020
I think it does a little bit, but from other avenues of generation,

1650
02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:29,020
if we run concessions or we run, you know, admissions or parking or things like that there.

1651
02:07:29,020 --> 02:07:33,020
So there's both directed indirect ways to generate revenue through facilities,

1652
02:07:33,020 --> 02:07:34,020
rentals.

1653
02:07:34,020 --> 02:07:37,020
And I think we are, we definitely need to lean in.

1654
02:07:37,020 --> 02:07:38,020
Thank you so much.

1655
02:07:38,020 --> 02:07:43,020
I wasn't even thinking about concessions and stuff like that. So, yeah. Okay. Thanks.

1656
02:07:43,020 --> 02:07:45,020
Tom.

1657
02:07:45,020 --> 02:07:50,020
Yes. Thank you, Mr. Ross. You made a comment back in the board meeting.

1658
02:07:50,020 --> 02:07:52,020
We talked about collaborations.

1659
02:07:52,020 --> 02:07:55,020
And you made a comment and you said, well,

1660
02:07:55,020 --> 02:08:01,020
the resume is much interest as you thought there would or they go off the table.

1661
02:08:01,020 --> 02:08:03,020
Could you clarify that?

1662
02:08:04,020 --> 02:08:08,020
No, I don't think maybe I misspoke. I think there is interest.

1663
02:08:08,020 --> 02:08:12,020
I think the pace is which we would have to get those things done is, you know,

1664
02:08:12,020 --> 02:08:15,020
going to be, it may turn some people away.

1665
02:08:15,020 --> 02:08:20,020
I think exploring co-ops for the spring of 27 has to be done by May 1st.

1666
02:08:20,020 --> 02:08:25,020
But if we can explore co-ops holistically for the future, it may not help.

1667
02:08:25,020 --> 02:08:27,020
You know, we've, this is a tale of two budgets.

1668
02:08:27,020 --> 02:08:31,020
It may not help us in the 26, 27 budget, but it will definitely help us in the future.

1669
02:08:32,020 --> 02:08:36,020
And so I think, you know, this, this is more of a both short and long-term conversation.

1670
02:08:36,020 --> 02:08:42,020
I'll do my best in the next 16 days to try to facilitate co-ops with other schools.

1671
02:08:42,020 --> 02:08:47,020
I do, you know, to be transparent. I have a hesitancy to do it with certain schools,

1672
02:08:47,020 --> 02:08:51,020
because one of the reasons that people may come to Floyd Memorial or to the school

1673
02:08:51,020 --> 02:08:54,020
because we have things that other schools may not offer.

1674
02:08:54,020 --> 02:08:59,020
However, I have to see it from both sides of protecting our programs and trying to reduce the budget, right?

1675
02:08:59,020 --> 02:09:04,020
So it's, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's a whole 10,000 foot view picture.

1676
02:09:04,020 --> 02:09:07,020
Answer your question. I think we can definitely start that process now,

1677
02:09:07,020 --> 02:09:12,020
but it's a process for the 26, 27 and 27, 28 year.

1678
02:09:12,020 --> 02:09:17,020
Okay. Thank you. I was just wondering if something happened since we didn't,

1679
02:09:17,020 --> 02:09:25,020
because the board has an act and in the last month or two that put you behind the eight ball more than you already are.

1680
02:09:25,020 --> 02:09:28,020
But you answered my question. Thank you.

1681
02:09:29,020 --> 02:09:31,020
Joanne.

1682
02:09:31,020 --> 02:09:36,020
Oh, I was reminded Pia of your comment earlier about policy.

1683
02:09:36,020 --> 02:09:52,020
Is this something where we should be have a policy eventually so that it's not this laborious process over and over if we have something with athletics and fund 80?

1684
02:09:53,020 --> 02:10:14,020
Yes, we should, we should definitely look at our policies and see what would have to change there and rely on Stephanie and our district administrators to help guide us what, what needs to be done.

1685
02:10:14,020 --> 02:10:18,020
Stephanie still on.

1686
02:10:18,020 --> 02:10:21,020
Yep, I'm still on.

1687
02:10:21,020 --> 02:10:30,020
Yep. Yep. Do you know in terms of moving to co-ops model?

1688
02:10:30,020 --> 02:10:41,020
Is there much in terms of policies or in the physical management series that would need to be changed?

1689
02:10:41,020 --> 02:10:48,020
So that is, and that is for co-ops goal. I'm pretty sure there's no word policy on the co-op.

1690
02:10:48,020 --> 02:10:54,020
Well, I don't know. Dan, did you look to see if there was anything on the co-ops for board policy?

1691
02:10:54,020 --> 02:10:59,020
I did not. We do have existing co-ops and I apologize if I start breaking in and out here.

1692
02:10:59,020 --> 02:11:04,020
We have existing co-ops already in hockey and so I don't believe we have anything in terms of board policy.

1693
02:11:04,020 --> 02:11:14,020
I just have practice in place and kind of the WA dictates how co-ops are managed by member schools.

1694
02:11:14,020 --> 02:11:16,020
Megan.

1695
02:11:16,020 --> 02:11:26,020
Thank you so much. Okay, so this has been a really great discussion and I'm hearing a theme or maybe like just a pattern of like community partnership and outreach.

1696
02:11:26,020 --> 02:11:35,020
I really like Carol in your original document, how you identified and made a recommendation for the need for a finance committee that's not a function of the board.

1697
02:11:35,020 --> 02:11:47,020
What I'm wondering is, would it make sense? And I don't know if it will or not. So I'm asking, maybe this is just something to sit with and think about for another, you know, for Tuesday or whatever, but would it make sense for us to help?

1698
02:11:47,020 --> 02:11:54,020
Because I don't want Dan to be at an island. I don't want, you know, Stephanie, I don't want anybody to be at an island trying to solve all the world's problems.

1699
02:11:54,020 --> 02:12:01,020
Would it be wise to also kind of put together like a community engagement and partnership piece.

1700
02:12:01,020 --> 02:12:07,020
And my reason for that, I want to make sure that this isn't going to like create work.

1701
02:12:07,020 --> 02:12:15,020
I'm just hoping like it seems like we're all spinning our wheels in a similar direction and it seems like almost everything we've talked about almost every single topic.

1702
02:12:15,020 --> 02:12:28,020
There's a component where either in the short and or the long term, there's going to be an efficiency, a cost savings and ultimately a benefit to kids if we partner and do things, you know, or in.

1703
02:12:28,020 --> 02:12:36,020
Yeah, just in relationship with the community, maybe in creative ways that we've never had to fully do before, or we just like done to some extent.

1704
02:12:37,020 --> 02:12:46,020
So I'm just like kind of putting that out there as a yes, we need to like have this high functioning like focused, you know, narrow scope group to look at finance.

1705
02:12:46,020 --> 02:12:50,020
It seems like we also need something like that for community partnerships.

1706
02:12:50,020 --> 02:13:03,020
That might also kind of segue or touch into like one of those other topics of discussion that Dr. Malat talked about earlier, which is like that communications person piece like maybe we'll get some clarity about some of these things, those specifics that we're looking for.

1707
02:13:03,020 --> 02:13:12,020
If we kind of have a meeting of the minds through that lens.

1708
02:13:12,020 --> 02:13:16,020
Anyone else?

1709
02:13:16,020 --> 02:13:18,020
Okay.

1710
02:13:18,020 --> 02:13:26,020
Vacant properties. Does anyone have any strong feelings on vacant properties?

1711
02:13:26,020 --> 02:13:34,020
I'd just like to weigh in on one, not vacant property. So maybe it's after this topic.

1712
02:13:34,020 --> 02:13:38,020
Okay, Brian.

1713
02:13:38,020 --> 02:13:43,020
Well, you know, I think we've got these properties. There's no reason to keep them.

1714
02:13:43,020 --> 02:13:48,020
I mean, again, I don't know exactly where all of them are except the one.

1715
02:13:48,020 --> 02:14:00,020
But I, you know, why, why hold on to stuff. I don't know how long we've had them. I mean, you know, we had, we had the, we had the two schools on the West side.

1716
02:14:00,020 --> 02:14:10,020
Well, then one school that we just got rid of after all took almost three years. So I don't think we need to hang on to under vacant property for another year or two or three, as well.

1717
02:14:11,020 --> 02:14:16,020
Okay.

1718
02:14:16,020 --> 02:14:21,020
Does anyone, does anyone disagree that we shouldn't Carol?

1719
02:14:21,020 --> 02:14:35,020
I don't disagree, you know, but I think, you know, I think would be who was to have like Marquette put together a little packet of what the properties are where they are, what they're worth. You know, we got a little bit of that, but I don't.

1720
02:14:35,020 --> 02:14:42,020
I mean, I can't even picture where some of those properties are. And a lot of them are worth a whole lot. It didn't sound like so.

1721
02:14:42,020 --> 02:15:02,020
And there might be some that looked like there was one they were talking about is actually adjacent to the high school that maybe we don't want to get rid of. So I think we need to look at the whole package before, you know, you know, certainly we can probably get rid of most of them, but maybe we don't want to get rid of all of them.

1722
02:15:03,020 --> 02:15:06,020
Okay. Can I weigh in real quick? Sure.

1723
02:15:06,020 --> 02:15:24,020
Carol, yes, I do. I do have my Marquette got me a compilation of all what you're talking about. It's like it's half thick of our properties that we own with all the abstract numbers in it.

1724
02:15:24,020 --> 02:15:28,020
But going back to what you said.

1725
02:15:28,020 --> 02:15:33,020
So we do have that information. I'll share with you once I make copies.

1726
02:15:33,020 --> 02:15:46,020
Once I buy a direct machine to do it. But anyway, I'm just a firm believer that the property we own, you know, around our campus, which is the high school.

1727
02:15:46,020 --> 02:16:00,020
We should not get rid of the vacant the land to be that could be our central hub on our campus as it is in the future. But that's just my two cents.

1728
02:16:00,020 --> 02:16:08,020
But anyways, I'll get you, I'll get all the board members a copy of all the properties of the district owns.

1729
02:16:08,020 --> 02:16:12,020
And I'll get it to all you guys. Thank you.

1730
02:16:12,020 --> 02:16:15,020
Tom, do you know if he has it electronically?

1731
02:16:16,020 --> 02:16:21,020
Well, he may have said it that way, but he hard copied it to me.

1732
02:16:21,020 --> 02:16:29,020
And then he left town. He says they get right now, but he gave, he left me a copy, except for 21. And that's a good.

1733
02:16:29,020 --> 02:16:35,020
It's an interesting thing. So anyway, I will, I'll get it to you.

1734
02:16:35,020 --> 02:16:38,020
Then you can disseminate it.

1735
02:16:39,020 --> 02:16:47,020
Okay, I'll ask Michelle to scan it and get it to all board members.

1736
02:16:47,020 --> 02:16:50,020
Okay, so.

1737
02:16:50,020 --> 02:17:01,020
It sounds like nobody is strongly opposed to selling properties and we will.

1738
02:17:02,020 --> 02:17:12,020
Give administration the nod to move forward with getting together this packet for us to know and move forward from there.

1739
02:17:12,020 --> 02:17:18,020
Fund 80.

1740
02:17:18,020 --> 02:17:20,020
Oh, wait a minute.

1741
02:17:20,020 --> 02:17:24,020
One of the things that I just noticed the last bullet point.

1742
02:17:24,020 --> 02:17:28,020
Thank you.

1743
02:17:28,020 --> 02:17:34,020
Mike Marquette as the listing agent, we will need to enter into a formal agreement with Mr. Marquette.

1744
02:17:34,020 --> 02:17:37,020
Megan Miller.

1745
02:17:37,020 --> 02:17:48,020
Thank you so much. Yeah, actually. So I had my hand raised for the fund 80 thing, but since you wrote it, Mr. Marquettes piece for President Johnson, I just want to make sure that, you know, we're being compliant with like our RFP policy and I appreciate all the work that my

1746
02:17:48,020 --> 02:17:50,020
Marquettes done.

1747
02:17:50,020 --> 02:17:54,020
I just like it before we bring that forward. I just want to make sure.

1748
02:17:54,020 --> 02:18:01,020
I guess I just want to look into whether or not we would have to put out a formal RFP if like, this is like, since this would be a new project.

1749
02:18:01,020 --> 02:18:07,020
So I'll just just throw that off for discussion, maybe for next time, but regarding fund 80.

1750
02:18:07,020 --> 02:18:15,020
Briefly, again, I really think that this, like, I think I'm hearing from people, you know, one of seven.

1751
02:18:15,020 --> 02:18:24,020
We like the idea of community partnerships. We like the idea of using this strategically in a way that is going to benefit not just our own kids and SDB, but all of our kids in Beloit.

1752
02:18:24,020 --> 02:18:39,020
I really think I would just like to hear more and it absolutely doesn't, I don't want to put any getting in the spot tonight, but happy to listen, but maybe at a future meeting if the administration wants to kind of think about like, what will best work for them and how can we best support as a board like the work that we're asking them to do.

1753
02:18:39,020 --> 02:19:01,020
Like, if there needs to be like some sort of like committee structure or, or like, whatever thing in place that will make that work so that we can work smarter, not harder, I guess, to identify all those relationships that we currently haven't had to capitalize and engaging future ones.

1754
02:19:02,020 --> 02:19:13,020
Oh, I'm sorry. Carol, and then Tom, and I'm going to make my kids in the next room to turn the TV down.

1755
02:19:13,020 --> 02:19:17,020
I think I said it earlier.

1756
02:19:17,020 --> 02:19:26,020
The gentleman that presented the boys and girls club said he had a plan that he presented. It'd be nice to see that plan.

1757
02:19:27,020 --> 02:19:31,020
You know, I, I'm all for working with boys and girls club if we can.

1758
02:19:31,020 --> 02:19:39,020
So, you know, we need to see the plan and move forward from there.

1759
02:19:39,020 --> 02:19:44,020
Tom.

1760
02:19:44,020 --> 02:19:46,020
Oh, yes.

1761
02:19:46,020 --> 02:19:47,020
Just a comment on that.

1762
02:19:47,020 --> 02:19:48,020
No, yes.

1763
02:19:48,020 --> 02:19:53,020
I did see the plan and he actually presented to Dr. Garrison.

1764
02:19:53,020 --> 02:20:00,020
And I don't want to go back to that, but there was a plan and he's, he's crossed his teeth and down his eyes.

1765
02:20:00,020 --> 02:20:04,020
But going into fund 80, it really intrigued me about funding.

1766
02:20:04,020 --> 02:20:09,020
I, I, I attended to a seminar or whatever you call them.

1767
02:20:09,020 --> 02:20:13,020
Have to take a venture in January on fund 80.

1768
02:20:13,020 --> 02:20:18,020
And it really is how you can't use it.

1769
02:20:18,020 --> 02:20:22,020
I mean, there's so many reasons I think we could use it.

1770
02:20:22,020 --> 02:20:24,020
I thought CrossFit guards would be.

1771
02:20:24,020 --> 02:20:30,020
No, I mean, there's so many rules and restrictions on how you can't use it.

1772
02:20:30,020 --> 02:20:32,020
But it is an interesting topic.

1773
02:20:32,020 --> 02:20:39,020
And I got a lot of literature on it, but I do agree that it should be explored to the fullest.

1774
02:20:39,020 --> 02:20:42,020
Just like fund 50. Thank you.

1775
02:20:48,020 --> 02:20:51,020
Any other board members?

1776
02:20:51,020 --> 02:20:55,020
Dan, are you still on?

1777
02:20:55,020 --> 02:20:56,020
Yeah, I'm here.

1778
02:20:56,020 --> 02:21:00,020
Okay. Would you, I'm sorry, I forgot to touch back in with you.

1779
02:21:00,020 --> 02:21:08,020
Did you have any thoughts on your comments on any of the bullet items we've touched on so far?

1780
02:21:08,020 --> 02:21:15,020
Well, first of all, just, I'll just make some broad comments and not take up too much time late at night here.

1781
02:21:15,020 --> 02:21:23,020
So first of all, thank you to Tia and to Michelle and everyone that invited the candidates.

1782
02:21:23,020 --> 02:21:31,020
In the last couple of weeks, if you've had workshops and then in this overlap period for Bill and I to be invited to be here.

1783
02:21:31,020 --> 02:21:39,020
So really appreciate that. It's going to really help me hit the ground running when I'm sworn in in a couple of weeks here.

1784
02:21:39,020 --> 02:21:46,020
My broad comments will just take 30 seconds or a minute would be that I'm.

1785
02:21:46,020 --> 02:21:57,020
When a comprehensive both this year budget next to your budget, you know, tie in the idea of a possible referendum.

1786
02:21:57,020 --> 02:22:03,020
When Dr Anderson and Dr Molot and the entire team are putting these things together.

1787
02:22:03,020 --> 02:22:08,020
I really want to make sure an option is there, which is.

1788
02:22:08,020 --> 02:22:17,020
What I call stability moving towards growth option because I've listened to this group and I've been on the campaign trail with others.

1789
02:22:17,020 --> 02:22:20,020
I'm hearing about the challenges we have.

1790
02:22:20,020 --> 02:22:28,020
But as I said in a, in a events was, you know, we can't, we're not going to cut our way to prosperity.

1791
02:22:28,020 --> 02:22:35,020
We have to start thinking about what a high functioning high quality district like we have, you know, for the number of years.

1792
02:22:35,020 --> 02:22:39,020
How do we grow, you know, how do we tell our story?

1793
02:22:39,020 --> 02:22:43,020
How do we tell the story that's going on with our professional educators?

1794
02:22:43,020 --> 02:22:46,020
And, you know, that's something for me in my background.

1795
02:22:46,020 --> 02:22:54,020
I'm going to want to hear from the professionals that work at central office and that work in the buildings to collectively come up with a plan.

1796
02:22:54,020 --> 02:22:57,020
I don't know exactly how that fits in with everything that's been said tonight.

1797
02:22:57,020 --> 02:23:06,020
But I'm hopeful that there's an option there alongside all the difficult choices you've all had to wrestle with about what does growth look like?

1798
02:23:06,020 --> 02:23:16,020
What would, you know, the things we would need to do to really put stability underneath us and then move towards growth.

1799
02:23:16,020 --> 02:23:17,020
That's really all I have.

1800
02:23:18,020 --> 02:23:25,020
Thank you, Dan. I appreciate that.

1801
02:23:25,020 --> 02:23:30,020
The next legal point or bullet point was legal counsel.

1802
02:23:30,020 --> 02:23:34,020
And it sounds like everybody is.

1803
02:23:34,020 --> 02:23:39,020
Or leaning towards exploring this option.

1804
02:23:39,020 --> 02:23:45,020
Is there anyone with any strong feelings one way or the other?

1805
02:23:46,020 --> 02:23:54,020
Well, I have, Tom, he can say definitely be. I know that even Dr. Harrison said that our legal for both highest paid.

1806
02:23:54,020 --> 02:23:58,020
Person in the district. And yes.

1807
02:23:58,020 --> 02:24:04,020
We do need to look at that and also transportation, but I know that that's coming down with.

1808
02:24:04,020 --> 02:24:10,020
That's going on wide. But yes, we need to look at it. Thank you.

1809
02:24:10,020 --> 02:24:12,020
Okay, I will let them know to.

1810
02:24:12,020 --> 02:24:16,020
Continue moving forward with that.

1811
02:24:16,020 --> 02:24:25,020
Communications director does the board want to restore or create a new position to deal with district communications.

1812
02:24:25,020 --> 02:24:27,020
Any thoughts.

1813
02:24:30,020 --> 02:24:31,020
Carol.

1814
02:24:31,020 --> 02:24:36,020
I'm going to go back to what I said before. I need to see that as part of a broader plan.

1815
02:24:37,020 --> 02:24:45,020
We need to have an idea of what Colax going to look like, what we want to do with the positions there.

1816
02:24:45,020 --> 02:24:54,020
We may need to be beating up our HR department or our finance department before we decide we need to do something for communication.

1817
02:24:54,020 --> 02:25:02,020
You know, we talked, we just were talking about a community person. Maybe we want to do a community liaison person.

1818
02:25:03,020 --> 02:25:07,020
In conjunction with the sports person or something, you know, there's other options of things that we could do.

1819
02:25:07,020 --> 02:25:12,020
It's not that we can't do that, but I'd like to see it in the broader context of.

1820
02:25:12,020 --> 02:25:17,020
What we need central office to be doing and what central office should look like.

1821
02:25:17,020 --> 02:25:22,020
Thank you, Carol. I mean, Joanne.

1822
02:25:22,020 --> 02:25:26,020
Yeah, I just lost my thought. Hold on a second.

1823
02:25:26,020 --> 02:25:30,020
Okay, here it is.

1824
02:25:30,020 --> 02:25:34,020
We need to come up with a plan for communications, regardless on.

1825
02:25:34,020 --> 02:25:40,020
Like, whether it's a person or we have a plan within our buildings because right now.

1826
02:25:40,020 --> 02:25:44,020
Or even just communicating better with the boy daily news.

1827
02:25:44,020 --> 02:25:48,020
But I don't know that that's really well read anymore.

1828
02:25:48,020 --> 02:25:49,020
We don't have.

1829
02:25:49,020 --> 02:25:54,020
We don't have control on the narrative that goes out into our community right now.

1830
02:25:54,020 --> 02:25:57,020
And I think that is one of our biggest problems.

1831
02:25:57,020 --> 02:25:59,020
And so.

1832
02:25:59,020 --> 02:26:01,020
I don't.

1833
02:26:01,020 --> 02:26:07,020
I don't really want to spend more money, but I think this is an area where we probably do need to.

1834
02:26:07,020 --> 02:26:16,020
I don't think we need like someone at a higher level. There's a lot of kids coming out of college that with marketing degrees that.

1835
02:26:16,020 --> 02:26:18,020
This would be a great.

1836
02:26:18,020 --> 02:26:21,020
Opportunity for someone like that.

1837
02:26:22,020 --> 02:26:25,020
Or maybe even an internship like.

1838
02:26:25,020 --> 02:26:30,020
Through UW Madison or something. I don't know.

1839
02:26:30,020 --> 02:26:33,020
Ideas.

1840
02:26:33,020 --> 02:26:43,020
Okay, thank you. Go in. Anyone else.

1841
02:26:43,020 --> 02:26:45,020
Okay, so this.

1842
02:26:45,020 --> 02:26:47,020
This sounds like another one.

1843
02:26:48,020 --> 02:26:51,020
Leah, if you're still on.

1844
02:26:51,020 --> 02:26:55,020
If we could get some more information.

1845
02:26:55,020 --> 02:26:59,020
You know, before we before the board.

1846
02:26:59,020 --> 02:27:04,020
Does anything with this? How does it fit into the bigger plan?

1847
02:27:04,020 --> 02:27:07,020
Okay, we will work on that.

1848
02:27:08,020 --> 02:27:10,020
And open funds.

1849
02:27:10,020 --> 02:27:19,020
Does the board want administration to use open funds to help balance any projected shortfall for 2627.

1850
02:27:19,020 --> 02:27:26,020
Or does it want to retain these funds to help alleviate projected shortfalls for the following year.

1851
02:27:26,020 --> 02:27:28,020
Joanne.

1852
02:27:28,020 --> 02:27:32,020
Oh, my hand was still up from before. I just.

1853
02:27:32,020 --> 02:27:34,020
My thing is.

1854
02:27:34,020 --> 02:27:38,020
I don't want kids to get hurt in the process. So.

1855
02:27:38,020 --> 02:27:43,020
If we need, I mean, we're not using it for what we put it in the bank account for.

1856
02:27:43,020 --> 02:27:46,020
I understand it's money that saves us in.

1857
02:27:46,020 --> 02:27:51,020
In dire straits. I think we're in dire straits though. And so.

1858
02:27:51,020 --> 02:28:00,020
Like when, when we're looking at things that are going to directly affect children, I think we do need to consider it.

1859
02:28:00,020 --> 02:28:01,020
Megan.

1860
02:28:02,020 --> 02:28:11,020
Thank you so much. I'm going to echo what Mr said. I would say that the goal should be not to use old pub and fund balance.

1861
02:28:11,020 --> 02:28:18,020
We know that in reality, so I mean, I think if we're thinking about how we prioritize and like decision making criteria.

1862
02:28:18,020 --> 02:28:22,020
Yes, the goal should be not to use old pub and not to use fund balance.

1863
02:28:22,020 --> 02:28:27,020
When push comes to shove, like, I'm not if I have money in the bank here, like I was.

1864
02:28:27,020 --> 02:28:36,020
Oh, the spirit of it. If I have money in the bank and I have a hungry child in front of me, and I know I should save that money, but my eight year old needs to eat.

1865
02:28:36,020 --> 02:28:40,020
I'm feeding my eight year old and we have we are elected to.

1866
02:28:40,020 --> 02:28:42,020
To serve the community.

1867
02:28:42,020 --> 02:28:48,020
To support the education of our students. And so while, yes, it's going to hurt.

1868
02:28:48,020 --> 02:28:53,020
This is going to hurt kids. Like, I just, I want to be clear that I am clear on that.

1869
02:28:53,020 --> 02:29:03,020
We have to decide at what point are we unable to accept the harm that will come to students if we don't use the old pub funding.

1870
02:29:03,020 --> 02:29:07,020
And so I think kind of to the point that Carol has made quite a bit this evening.

1871
02:29:07,020 --> 02:29:16,020
We have to see that just the more filled in picture of how all of these things will work together to know if and when to kind of hit the old pub button.

1872
02:29:16,020 --> 02:29:25,020
I think you still want more information. And, and I think, Miss Elwood is going to do a wonderful job, you know, and I think she already gave us a really great framework tonight.

1873
02:29:25,020 --> 02:29:38,020
And I think we'll get more information about when is if we are in that situation, when is it better to go Oh, pet versus fun 10, because we do want to consider like the funding model impact tax impact, et cetera.

1874
02:29:39,020 --> 02:29:40,020
Carol.

1875
02:29:40,020 --> 02:29:51,020
I guess I'm really echoing that. It's just, you know, my, my feeling is no, but oh, but if necessary.

1876
02:29:51,020 --> 02:30:05,020
Some, I, you know, once we have the full flesh out picture of what we can do without, you know, if it comes to really, like Megan was saying, really causing serious serious harm.

1877
02:30:06,020 --> 02:30:19,020
And we may need to use that, but we got to have the plan first before we can decide how much or if any of that we want to use.

1878
02:30:19,020 --> 02:30:20,020
Okay.

1879
02:30:20,020 --> 02:30:34,020
Leah, did you have any other things you wanted the board to discuss regarding the budget or stepping? Did you have anything else you wanted us to.

1880
02:30:34,020 --> 02:30:41,020
Um, I'm all over tonight.

1881
02:30:41,020 --> 02:30:51,020
Oh, sorry, my dog was barking. He's not happy. Um, no, I think the clarity is a little bit better. So we will get started. I'm not that sorry.

1882
02:30:51,020 --> 02:30:53,020
Okay.

1883
02:30:53,020 --> 02:30:58,020
Stephanie, are you still with us?

1884
02:30:58,020 --> 02:30:59,020
Yep, I'm here.

1885
02:30:59,020 --> 02:31:03,020
And I, I'll just repeat what Leah saw that. Yes, we need to.

1886
02:31:03,020 --> 02:31:14,020
We have some work ahead of us and we need to do some more conversations with, with principals about our organization and our staffing plan.

1887
02:31:14,020 --> 02:31:16,020
Okay.

1888
02:31:17,020 --> 02:31:31,020
Well, it doesn't look like we have a closed session link for tonight and we were not expecting the storm. So if there are no objections, I would like to postpone the next item until next.

1889
02:31:31,020 --> 02:31:34,020
Board meeting.

1890
02:31:34,020 --> 02:31:36,020
Yeah.

1891
02:31:36,020 --> 02:31:39,020
Can I say something before we go with.

1892
02:31:40,020 --> 02:31:52,020
Well, we don't, we don't have a closed session link. So I'm not going to postpone this. Oh, you still have a budget discussion. Yes. Okay, go ahead.

1893
02:31:52,020 --> 02:31:54,020
I just want to be clear.

1894
02:31:54,020 --> 02:32:07,020
So we want, I want, I mean, I is one, just want to get through what administration wanted us to do tonight to get through these bullet points.

1895
02:32:07,020 --> 02:32:17,020
So what I'm hearing is there's administration have a clear nod that they go ahead and go with recommendations that they made.

1896
02:32:17,020 --> 02:32:20,020
Is that correct or incorrect?

1897
02:32:21,020 --> 02:32:29,020
Well, they didn't make recommendations. They gave us two options.

1898
02:32:29,020 --> 02:32:37,020
So, if you look at the bullet points, well, a lot of these options, we actually need more information.

1899
02:32:37,020 --> 02:32:42,020
Okay. All right. Thank you.

1900
02:32:51,020 --> 02:32:58,020
Okay. So for the, any other budget comments.

1901
02:32:58,020 --> 02:33:04,020
Okay. For the closed session, does anybody objective with postponeness.

1902
02:33:04,020 --> 02:33:05,020
Megan.

1903
02:33:05,020 --> 02:33:08,020
I was just going to move to adjourn. Okay.

1904
02:33:08,020 --> 02:33:09,020
Thank you.

1905
02:33:09,020 --> 02:33:14,020
So we have a motion to adjourn at 836. Is there a second?

1906
02:33:14,020 --> 02:33:15,020
I'll second.

1907
02:33:16,020 --> 02:33:22,020
Second by Joanne rule. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor.

1908
02:33:22,020 --> 02:33:23,020
Hi.

1909
02:33:23,020 --> 02:33:24,020
Hi.

1910
02:33:24,020 --> 02:33:25,020
Hi.

1911
02:33:25,020 --> 02:33:31,020
Any opposed motion carries unanimously. Thank you. Everybody. Have a good night.

1912
02:33:31,020 --> 02:33:33,020
Thank you. Thank you so much.