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Mr. Schope are you ready

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Good evening.

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It is 6.03.

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I'm calling to order the regular board meeting of Tuesday, May 19th.

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Mrs. Shope, may we get a roll call, please?

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Yes.

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Carol Fox, here.

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Tom Hankins is not with us.

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Bill Johnson.

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Here.

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Meghan Miller, present.

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Joanne Ruh.

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Here.

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Dan Schuth.

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Here.

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Antia Johnson.

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Here.

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All members are present, except Tom Hankins.

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Thank you.

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I believe he will be with us shortly.

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May I get an approval of the agenda?

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So moved.

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Motion by Carol Fox, second by Bill Johnson.

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Hearing none.

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Aye.

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Motion carries unanimously.

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Tonight, Dr. Anderson, who is back from his vacation, is going to lead us in the Pledge

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of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for

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which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you, Dr. Anderson.

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Good evening, and thank you for joining us tonight.

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We appreciate your continued interest in and the support of the School District of

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Bloyne.

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Yesterday, May 18th, was Speech Pathologist Awareness Day.

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On behalf of the Board of Education, I would like to extend our sincere gratitude to the

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District's Speech Language Pathologists.

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Their work is essential in public education as they support students with communication

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disorders that directly affect access to learning.

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By helping students strengthen their communication skills, they ensure students can fully participate

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in the classroom, build relationships with peers, and achieve academic success.

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We are deeply thankful for their expertise, compassion, and unwavering dedication to

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Last week, board members Carol Fox, Bill Johnson, and I attended the Bloyne Memorial High School

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Underclassman Awards night.

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Several students in grades 9-3-11 were recognized for their outstanding academic achievements

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and excellence across many variety of areas.

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We are incredibly proud of their hard work, perseverance, and accomplishments.

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Congratulations to all of the students recognized and keep up the excellent work.

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Earlier today, members of the board had the opportunity to volunteer at the annual Elementary

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The Todd Timberwolves, Converse Cougars, and Robinson Cougars competed today, and tomorrow

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we'll feature the Gaston Bandits, the Hackett Hawks, and the Merrill Tigers.

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The event was filled with excitement, positive energy, and strong community spirit.

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Most impressive was the level of sportsmanship, teamwork, and encouragement students showed

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to one another.

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Their behavior truly reflected the values we hope every individual connected to the school

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district of Bloyne demonstrates each day.

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During these challenging times when many of us are feeling the strain of financial

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uncertainty, I believe we can learn something from our students.

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Not everyone will finish first, not everyone will always agree or feel satisfied with the

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outcome.

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However, we continue to show up, work hard, and do our best for our students and our community.

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Let us continue to support one another, appreciate each other's efforts, and remain united in

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our shared commitment to improving the educational experience for every student we serve.

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A special thank you to Vice President Foxx, who I'm told, volunteers at every elementary

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track meet every single year.

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Best of luck to all tomorrow's athletes, and thank you to staff and members and volunteers

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who continue to dedicate their time and energy supporting our students.

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This Tuesday the Board held a special meeting to discuss budget concerns and potential

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options moving forward.

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We will continue that discussion again tonight.

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We are grateful to the Cabinet for presenting a staffing plan and for continuing to move

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the district forward with transparency, honesty, and a clear understanding of the challenges

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ahead.

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It takes courage to share difficult truths, including those that may be hard to hear,

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and it takes courage to make decisions that are necessary for the long-term stability

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of the school district of Loyne.

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I would like to recognize Assistant Superintendent Dr. Malott, Executive Director Almonderes, Executive

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Director Beavers, and Interim Executive Director Elwood for the tremendous leadership and work

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they provided during Dr. Anderson's absence.

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Their dedication, professionalism, and service to the school district of Loyne are sincerely

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appreciated.

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Together, we remain committed to strengthening our district and improving outcomes for every

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student.

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This concludes my report.

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Thank you.

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Next we have upcoming events and announcements, Board Clerk Miller.

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All right, good evening, everybody, so these are the announcements for Tuesday, May 19th.

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Senior Awards Night is Wednesday, tomorrow, May 20th at 6 p.m. at Beloit Memorial High

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School.

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Congratulations to our seniors.

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Friday, May 22nd, the BMJE slash BMJO is performing at music in the park in downtown Beloit

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across from First National Bank.

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Friday, May 29th is the annual Pilwifers Golf outing with dinner.

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This fun, emphasized event is for all district staff, including retired and spouses, both

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experienced and brand new golfers.

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There will be a 4.30 p.m. shotgun start at the Kruger Haskell Golf Course in Beloit.

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For more information or to sign up, contact James Hoei at JHoei at SDB.k.k12.wi.us or

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over at Beloit Memorial High School.

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p.m. at the Rotary Center.

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This is an open house event.

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A short program will be held at 5.30 p.m. with cake, punch and water served.

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Thursday, June 11th, please join Beloit Memorial High School Academies on the Greens of Glen

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Erin.

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To register your golfing for some order to sign up as a sponsor, please contact Ryan

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Michaels at B. Michaels at SDB.k12.wi.us.

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Summer school registration is open.

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Register using Skyward Family Access.

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Please register early as space is limited.

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There will be no school on Monday, May 25th due to Memorial Day.

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The last day of school is Friday, June 5th, with graduation for senior students on Saturday,

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June 6th at 10 a.m. on Jacobson Field at the John Heineke Stadium.

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Doors slash gates open at 8.30 a.m.

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If there is inclement weather, the ceremony will be held in the bargain arena.

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Please save the date for the 5th annual Stateline Multicultural Hispanic Heritage Month celebration,

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which will be on Saturday, October 10th.

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However, there is a district-wide t-shirt contest happening right now.

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Please submit your design to your school family advocate for a chance to be the official

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t-shirt, or to submit the official t-shirt, for our Hispanic Heritage celebration.

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The deadline is May 22nd.

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That is this Friday.

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If you have questions, please contact your school family advocates.

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The Department of Public Instruction's portrait of a graduate is a statewide effort to define

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the knowledge, skills, and mindsets every Wisconsin student needs to succeed after

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high school, no matter the path they choose.

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DPI invites students, families, educators, and community members to stay connected and

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engaged as this work continues.

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There will be a virtual listening session on Wednesday, May 27th from noon until 1 p.m.

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For specific information or to register, you may go to dpi.wi.gov or you may contact our

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board secretary, Michelle Shope, who can provide you with the full DPI web address

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to register.

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Her telephone number is 608-361-4180.

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Meetings coming up and being held at the Colac Education Center include Monday, June 1st,

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there is a policy meeting at 4 p.m., Tuesday, June 2nd, begins the new meeting cadence

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with business, operations, finance, and HR meeting at 5 p.m., and the Teaching Learning

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meeting, whichever is later.

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This concludes the announcements for tonight.

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Thank you, Clerk Miller.

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Next we have recognitions.

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Tonight we are recognizing our student representative, McKenna Rounds.

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Student Board representatives provide an invaluable service to the Board of Education by sharing

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reports and updates through the lens of the student experience, helping to ensure

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student voice remains at the center of our work.

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Throughout her time serving in this role, student board representative McKenna Rounds

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consistently delivered reports that were both informative and very entertaining, offering

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thoughtful insight while engaging all of us in a meaningful way.

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We are grateful for her leadership, professionalism, and commitment to representing the students

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of the district.

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McKenna, thank you for your year of service.

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Good luck to everything you do, and we know you'll be wonderful.

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Board Secretary Shope, do we have any public comments tonight?

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Yes, I have a couple in the room and a couple to read.

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Members of the public are welcome to attend all public open meetings of the Board of Education.

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Individuals attending board meetings are expected to conduct themselves in a respectful and

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courteous manner that models appropriate behavior for our students.

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Individuals wishing to comment are expected to comply with the norms found on the back

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of your comment cards and in board policy 187, public participation at board meetings.

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We ask that each of you contribute to maintaining a respectful and orderly meeting and prevent

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discussing confidential matters in a public forum by following these norms for public

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comments during board meetings.

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Thank you for your participation and courtesy.

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Mrs. Shope?

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The first person I have is Julie.

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The other person I have is Andrew.

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So apparently Andrew is going first.

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Wonderful.

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Andrew, if you just hit the button so the red light comes on, thank you.

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Oh, oh, I got it.

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Not this light, that one, okay.

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Good evening, Board President, members of the Board.

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My name is Andrew Heary.

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I'm a Professor of Bilingual Education and ESL at the University of Wisconsin White

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Water.

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Tonight I'm here on my own accord.

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And I'm here to unequivocally voice my support for the dual language immersion program at

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your district, okay.

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I'm going to talk about two things that I hope that you'll consider.

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And then my colleague Dr. Minokolakok is going to talk about some possibilities, right,

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to move forward.

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So I really appreciate the district's commitment to educating all students equitably.

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And I'd like to remind the Board that Spanish English Bilingual Programs started in the

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state nearly 60 years ago that emerged from Latino-Latina community organizing.

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Folks were fed up with the remedial education that they were receiving prior to these programs

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coming into existence, okay.

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And then since then, there's been a plethora of research that has supported the multiple

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benefits of these programs.

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So these programs offer academic, social, cognitive, economic benefits to the students

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who participate, all right.

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So that's why the proposals to reduce Spanish language instruction at the elementary

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grades or cut the program at the middle school level do not make sense.

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They don't make academic sense.

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They don't make economic sense, okay.

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The proposal to reduce the program to the elementary grades and cut Spanish language

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instruction would mean that you're implementing a transitional bilingual program model, which

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basically looks to subtract students' home languages.

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And they've been proven to offer poor academic results.

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You'd also foreclose opportunities for all students to engage in rich academic learning

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across languages.

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And that's a requirement for them to obtain the Wisconsin Seal of Bilitaracy, okay.

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So in effect, you would be hurting the academic possibilities by cutting these programs.

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Also parents know this, families know that these programs offer multiple benefits.

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So cutting the program at the middle school level would invite these parents to open and

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roll out of your district, okay.

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A lot of my research has focused on public bilingual education and how it can function

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as a safeguard against school privatization, all right.

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The opposite is also true when school districts refuse to recognize and respond to the dreams

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aspirations and hopes of the community that opens the door to school privatization and

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charter school proliferation, okay.

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So I encourage you and ask respectfully to, let's deepen collaboration between university

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There are ways that we can move forward, right.

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But let's not forget the legacy of bilingual education in the state and in your district.

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No, she's going to ask you this.

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Thank you, Professor Herring.

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Mrs. Scho.

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Hi, good evening board president and board members.

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Thank you.

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It is nice to be here.

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I'm also a professor of bilingual and ESL education at the University of Wisconsin Whitewater.

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I am here of my own accord.

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I'm a colleague of Dr. Herries.

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I'm also here as a mom who has two children who went through a dual language immersion

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program in Madison.

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They're now in college and they were able to do, to receive the syllabi literacy through

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their K through 12 dual language immersion program.

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So I see it on a professional side and I've seen it on a personal side with my own two

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children.

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Like Dr. Herry, I implore you to reconsider the proposal and partner with us as much as

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possible.

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There's a lot of research out there as Dr. Herry mentioned.

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There's research that supports DLA programs.

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Should I keep talking without the mic?

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It's back a little bit.

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So can you all hear me?

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Okay.

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I thought someone was telling me to move away.

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So please, we're happy to share research with you.

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We're happy to interpret research, to work with you, to partner with you.

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We have a really exciting new program here on our campus, University of Wisconsin Whitewater

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that is designed specifically for practicing teachers who need their ESL and bilingual

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licensure.

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So it's an asynchronous, fully asynchronous program and it's accelerated.

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So teachers can enroll in the program while they're teaching full time and what they've

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finished with in less than a year and a half is a K12 ESL license and a K12 bilingual bicultural

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license and a handful of your very talented and very enthusiastic and committed teachers

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from your district are in our program right now.

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So it's a new program and it's very popular.

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It's tripled since we started in the fall of this academic year and it just continues

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to grow.

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So we're able to help teachers who need that bilingual bicultural and ESL license get it

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in a very high quality way and a quick way as well.

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So thank you.

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Muchas gracias.

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Thank you, Julie and I'm sorry Professor Heary for mispronouncing your name.

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Ms. Scho.

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Okay.

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The first one I have to read is from treasure.

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Instead of closing Merrill Elementary, why not just pull all kids back at the home based

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school like where they live is the school they should go to?

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Like what I was told before, why my kids could not go to other schools.

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So just pull all the kids back at their homeschool.

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It would solve the problem and get some of the good teachers back at Merrill Elementary.

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In the past, we had great teachers and put some stuff for Merrill like you did with other

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schools like swings, just maybe to lower the dialect on the money, maybe try to lower the

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amount of what is wasted, try going back to paper and pencil.

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The second one I have is from, I believe it's RE.

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After working in one of your elementary schools as a paraprofessional student teacher on my

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way to graduating with my BA in special education, I can no longer stay silent about the conditions

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staff and students are expected to endure.

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My plan was to graduate and work for your district supporting my community.

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During my short time working in the district, I suffered a broken arm and a torn rotator

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cuff due to violent behavioral incidents.

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At the same time, the school was operating at approximately 18 fewer paraprofessionals

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than were needed to meet IEP requirements.

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Staff were placed in impossible situations daily and students were repeatedly subjected

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to lockdowns multiple times a day because of ongoing behavioral crises.

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I even watched second graders having to do their schoolwork in the hall on the floor

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for an hour because their class had to evacuate due to behaviors.

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What concerns me most is that the educational experience and safety of hundreds of students

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are being sacrificed in order to keep severe behavioral situations, which should be in

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ID or have one, one-on-one support with this general school environment without said adequate

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support staffing or intervention.

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The pairs are often the only people attempting to prevent escalation, yet they are overworked,

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under supported and now facing cuts.

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I also experienced serious disorganization from human resources.

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I was mistakenly sent to work a full day early and then denied pay for eight hours I worked.

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That experience alone reflected the level of dysfunction within the system.

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As a parent, I spent 14 years believing things would improve.

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I advocated for this district.

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I supported the referendum.

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I defended the schools because I genuinely wanted them to succeed.

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After finally working inside the system myself, I've reached my limit.

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I'm now withdrawing my four children from the district.

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The district continues to question why enrollment is declining from my perspective.

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Families are leaving because they are no longer.

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They no longer feel their children are receiving a safe, stable, educational environment.

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Teachers, parents, and students are burning out while serious behavioral issues continue to

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overwhelm classrooms with inadequate support structures in place.

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I hope the board truly listens to the staff and families who are speaking up before more

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students, families, and employees decide to leave as well and

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make cuts that are appropriate to deal with what in my opinion is the number one issue of your entire district.

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Behavior advocacy, behavior professionals, pair of support should be the last thing that you cut,

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or you're going to lose even more students and receive less funding.

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That's all I have.

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Thank you, Mrs. Scholl.

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Next on tonight's agenda, we have the student board rep with Student Board Representative McKenna Rounds.

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First of all, I would like to say thank you to the board for being so kind to me throughout this year.

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I'd like to say thank you to Ms. Pells for being so supportive whenever she sees me in the hallway.

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And thank you, a special, very special thank you to Mr. Hoey for teaching me government and how this board works.

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I love the school district.

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I have been in the school district since I was probably like four years old.

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Never been out of it.

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I'm kind of scared to leave it because I'm graduating.

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But with how the school district has been trending, I know we can be better.

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And I want it to be better for future generations and for future classes of students.

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So this is going to lead me to bring up some constructive criticism.

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Again, this is nothing personal.

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I love all of you here.

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I just know we can be better and I want to help us be better.

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First of all, I've noticed that there's a lack of communication among the school and school officials.

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It's just kind of confusing for students and teachers.

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And I've noticed administrators are also a little confused with lack of communication flowing between everyone.

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I just think maybe we should all try to communicate a little bit better.

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And I know that can be hard, but if we truly want our schools to succeed, we have to at least try.

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Next is a gripe I've had this entire year.

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The AB day schedules.

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It has made it a lot harder for students to have consistency, to study for tests, to do homework, to not be as burnt out.

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Just generally, I've noticed everything is harder.

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As much as we like to say that you can do A day homework on B day and do B day homework on A day to prepare yourself for the next day,

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that's a little hard when you're getting double the amount of homework and double the amount of stress from each class.

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And a lot of the days, we don't even have consistency in the classes.

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Most of the days that I've been canceled this year have been A days.

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And if students are on field trips or if they miss a school day for any reason or if they have to miss a couple,

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they're behind almost a week's worth of work if they miss, let's say, B days.

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They're like gone a week of that class.

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It's really hard for us to learn when we don't have consistency.

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Another thing I'd like to bring up is the bathrooms.

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I know that the custodial staff is woefully underfunded and understaffed, and I respect them so, so, so much.

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They do so much hard work.

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But I think we need to give them a little bit more support.

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We have gone many times without multiple of the toilets working in each of the floor bathrooms, because we only have one on each floor.

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Many of the stalls aren't working. Many of the stores don't close.

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Many of the stalls are lacking toilet paper and the trash cans don't get cleaned out.

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The pad containers don't get cleaned out.

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There's no paper towels. Many of the times we've gone weeks without paper towels on the second floor.

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And we try to help and ask, but they are so underfunded.

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And I get that we have funding issues, but custodial staff is one of the areas that we need it the most to keep our school clean and not as disgusting and have people not hating it at all times.

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Yeah, you're going to hate it anyway, but having it be clean is something that you need.

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And another issue that I like to bring up that teacher brought to my attention that I should mention is that many of the resources that we need for projects,

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like research projects, especially at the higher grade levels, those websites have been blocked just by widespread blocking of the websites.

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For example, I did a project on abortion for Mr. Yanki's current events class.

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And I found a, it was either .org or .gov website that had really good information that I could see from the overview that it gives for each of the websites.

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And I try to click on it. It was completely blocked. Again, it was either a .org or .gov. It wasn't a .com.

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It wasn't telling me where I can get an abortion, how I can get an abortion.

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It was just giving me information. And I get that administration and that tech didn't directly block that.

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But I think we need a little bit more control on what we block, especially because, especially at the high school level, we're getting older, we can handle these rougher topics.

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I get it for the middle school and the elementary schools, but it's hard for us to do research when we aren't allowed to do research on the hard-hitting topics.

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Again, I love the school. I just want us to be better. And the teachers are so great.

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I really hope all of you try to fix the system that we have and support our teachers more because they are really stressed.

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And students are noticing it. Thank you.

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Thank you, McKenna.

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Next, we've got the superintendent's report. Dr. Anderson?

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Thank you. First, it's nice to be back. It's nice to be back last week, just in time for our budget hearing.

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And we're going to talk about budgeting again tonight because that is one of the key issues that we need to find some resolution on.

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But on another note, one of the other things I wanted to give an update on is that we are meeting this week to hopefully finalize the agreement with the Hendricks Foundation

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to present Skyrock and Open Literacy at two of our schools, Gaston and Converse.

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So hopefully at the next meeting, we will have an agreement to bring to both the boards for that project going forward.

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So we're working on it. We are working on it again this week. Hopefully we'll have some of the next meeting.

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I want to thank McKenna for giving us a student perspective. It's always good to hear different perspectives and it's good to have a student voice.

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So we'll be talking about some of my topics in much more detail later on.

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Thank you, Dr. Anderson. Next, we've got the policy and human resources committee report, Chairperson Fox.

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Thank you, President Johnson.

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Well, I got the mic. McKenna, thank you very much for being my buddy here there for a while while I first got on the board.

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And if you want to know anything about Ronald Reagan, she's your person.

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The policy and HR committee met last night and we first discussed the use of the agency NIO to help us with our policies.

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NIO is used by many school districts in Wisconsin.

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Dr. Anderson fell at this time we can proceed without using or paying for this service.

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He plans to review all of the policies by section and will let us know what policies might need additional work.

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Furthermore, we have other resources such as the WASB policy resource guide that we can use.

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And we can always revisit the idea of NIO in the future if we feel we need that assistance.

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Our first policy discussion was on the use of mobile phones and electronic devices.

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We discussed the current active policy and an edited version that was tabled last year.

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The edited policy was tabled at the time because the Beloitte Memorial High School staff had spent time working on their own plan for curtailing cell phone use.

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The committee has asked for an update from the high school staff about their plan,

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how well it is working, any changes they are considering, and if there are any policy adjustments that would be the assistance to them.

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We also discussed the requirement in the state statute 118.07 with a 5 in parentheses,

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which requires by September 1st adoption of a policy on appropriate communication between an employee or volunteer for the district and students.

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We already have policies 528 on professional boundaries and 522.71 on social media guidelines that address many of the key issues that are in this statute.

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The committee will be studying whether these policies cover all the requirements in the new law or adjustments and changes need to be made.

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We also approved Exhibit A to move forward to this evening's board meeting.

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Our next meeting, as policy only, because we're changing the structure,

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we'll be on June 1st. We did change the time. It will be 3 p.m.

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And the policy committees will continue to meet twice a month on Mondays before the board meeting or the committee meetings.

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And Dr. Anderson thinks we'll have a lot to keep us busy.

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Thank you, Mrs. Fox. Next, we have teaching, learning, equity, and pupil services committee report, Chairperson Ruh.

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Thank you, President Johnson. The TLE committee has approved forming an ad hoc advisory committee to review and update our human growth and development curriculum.

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And we also provided providing some financial support for students to compete for the first time at the Skills USA National Conference.

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And then because of our new way of structuring our meetings, our next meeting will be on June 2nd.

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Thank you, Mrs. Ruh. Next, we've got business operations and finance committee report, Chairperson Hankens.

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Thank you, Board President.

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Yes, we're met tonight and our biggest, our only one on the agenda was

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purchase approval of the student transportation, which is

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a huge cost to the district and many, all the districts of busing students around.

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So we put it out for RFP. I think two came back and

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we're going to recommend to the full board that we use Durham.

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There are some questions that I think Stephanie will answer on some of the

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questions that I had about usage.

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But anyways, we're going to move to a full approval, the use of Durham for our next

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unfortunately five years.

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Thank you, Mr. Hankens.

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And next, we have the legislative update, legislative liaison.

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Thank you, Madam Chair.

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I want to take a few minutes to update the board and what happened at the state level last week, because it directly affects our

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how we think about the budget funding now and in the future.

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Governor Evers, Assembly Speaker Voss, and Senate Majority Leader LaMejo announced a special session.

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The day we were meeting last week to vote on a $1.8 billion spending package.

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It was billed as a big win for schools and for tax relief.

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Ultimately later in the week, the state Senate voted it down 15 to 18.

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And one of the explain what I've learned in my digging on why that may have happened.

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Here's why it matters to us.

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There was $1.8 billion of state spending, but only 315 million of that would directly could be spent by schools for special

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education funding for this year and for next.

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That's real money.

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It would have come in handy to our discussions tonight, for sure.

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But ultimately there was a rare left-right coalition in the state capital that agreed that the fiscal math didn't add up.

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Senator Spritzer voted no, as did every Senate Democrat.

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Three Republicans, including our neighboring state senator Steve Nast joined them.

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Senator Nast put it simply, I can't support a bad deal cut by leaders that will never face the voters again as the three leaders are.

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All three of them are not running for reelection this year.

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There's a nonpartisan legislative fiscal bureau that analyzes any piece of legislation for its fiscal impact.

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And it said it would create a nearly $3 billion structural deficit for the state.

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Senator Spritzer, in a public comment, echoed that concern.

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He noted that much of the projected surplus only exists on paper, and that $3 billion deficit, even that was based on rosy economic scenarios.

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There is another reason this context matters for this district.

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Most political observers believe that the state senate will switch sides.

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The chamber will be a majority Democrat next session.

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One reason that's important to belowiters is that Senator Spritzer is in line to be the number two position in the state senate if that occurs.

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That would put our state senator one that looks out for our district at the table when the next state budget gets written, and then with school funding reform finally happens, we hope.

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The other thing is legislators now, you know, what you would expect for the rest of the summer.

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Legislators are out now collecting signatures to get on the fall ballot, so essentially the legislative session is done and the campaign season has begun.

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As that plays out, we as a board and as a district will need to weigh in on school funding proposals through the organizations we belong to and individually.

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And of course, we're a party to the important lawsuit moving forward.

453
00:39:53,100 --> 00:40:02,100
Most of that begins really in earnest once November election happens, and we know sort of who will be the players in the state capital.

454
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:07,100
For our district, in my opinion, as legislative liaison, the bottom line is this.

455
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:18,100
The structural underfunding of public education, well documented by the nonpartisan Wisconsin policy forum did not get fixed last week, didn't get worse either.

456
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,100
There's a real fight.

457
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:23,100
This district is part of that for sustainable long term school funding.

458
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,100
This continues into the next legislative session.

459
00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:29,100
I'll keep monitoring that and reporting back as things develop.

460
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,100
So thank you.

461
00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:33,100
Thank you, Mr. Schuf.

462
00:40:33,100 --> 00:40:43,100
Next on the agenda, we have board representative and alternate for BEA negotiations.

463
00:40:43,100 --> 00:40:52,100
The Board of Education has a representative serve on the negotiation committee with administration while negotiating with the BEA executive officers.

464
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:58,100
The board will also have an alternate should the representative be unable to attend.

465
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:09,100
Policy 143 official board representatives lists an employee relations liaison as one of the board representatives appointed by the board president.

466
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:12,100
However, this has not been filled for several years.

467
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:18,100
It is my understanding that this title has morphed into BEA board representative.

468
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:21,100
I would appreciate if we could fill this position tonight.

469
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:27,100
The role of BEA board representative will represent the board of education during negotiations.

470
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:36,100
The alternate may attend these sessions but would stand in if the BEA representative is unavailable.

471
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:42,100
Are there any board members who would like to volunteer or nominate someone for this position?

472
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:50,100
If somebody else would like to do it, that's cool.

473
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:51,100
I did it last year.

474
00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:53,100
I'd be more than happy to serve again.

475
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,100
Okay.

476
00:41:54,100 --> 00:41:55,100
Anyone else?

477
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,100
How many meetings?

478
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:00,100
What does it entail?

479
00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:04,100
Ms. Miller, you would probably be best to answer that one.

480
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:05,100
It was lovely.

481
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:08,100
It was a handful of meetings with wonderful people.

482
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:13,100
I don't think it was a giant time constraint.

483
00:42:13,100 --> 00:42:15,100
It was reasonable.

484
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:21,100
I'd be willing to be the alternate if Megan wants to do the real thing.

485
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:22,100
Thank you.

486
00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:30,100
Then I will appoint Megan Miller as our BEA rep and Carol Fox as our alternate.

487
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:34,100
Are there any questions or any other discussion?

488
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:37,100
I love it when things go that fast.

489
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:41,100
One here that's not going to go so fast.

490
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:45,100
Our next item is board budget proposal.

491
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:56,100
And the purpose of this is to share with board members the proposed budget reductions that administration has put together for the 4.5 needed for the 2627 school year.

492
00:42:56,100 --> 00:43:02,100
The administration is looking for feedback from board members at this time.

493
00:43:02,100 --> 00:43:11,100
Before I turn it over to Dr. Anderson, I will share some thoughts that I shared with the board and one of the news media.

494
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:19,100
The board understands these are challenging economic times for many families, staff members, and community members.

495
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:29,100
Like households across our community, school districts are also facing significant rising costs while working with limited financial resources.

496
00:43:29,100 --> 00:43:37,100
Many school districts across the state and nation are also facing dwindling enrollment and financial difficulties.

497
00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:44,100
Unfortunately, the reductions we must consider are greater than originally anticipated.

498
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:55,100
Initially, the district thought we were only going to have to make 4.5 million in reductions that number has now grown to about 5.7 million.

499
00:43:55,100 --> 00:44:04,100
We continue to listen carefully to the perspectives and suggestions shared by our community, staff, and families and students.

500
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:05,100
Thank you, McKenna.

501
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:16,100
We consistently hear that people value strong academics safe and respectful learning environments and meaningful extracurricular opportunities for students.

502
00:44:16,100 --> 00:44:23,100
In response, the administration has brought forward three recommended options for the board's consideration,

503
00:44:23,100 --> 00:44:34,100
which it is also important to acknowledge that the state funding in Wisconsin has not kept pace with inflation or the increasing needs of students.

504
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:42,100
The realities facing schools today are very different from those even 10 years ago, 15 years ago.

505
00:44:42,100 --> 00:44:52,100
In addition, the school district of Deloitte continues to experience declining enrollment, which has a substantial impact on district funding.

506
00:44:52,100 --> 00:45:00,100
Despite these financial challenges, the school district of Deloitte remains deeply committed to our students and families.

507
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:09,100
We will continue to work diligently to find the correct balance and timing of right sizing the school district of Deloitte.

508
00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:20,100
We value our partnership with the community and will continue to work together to provide the strongest educational experience possible for every student we serve.

509
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:23,100
Dr. Anderson.

510
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:30,100
We're going to have enough, what I'll call, challenging discussions tonight, so I thought I'd start with a little good news.

511
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:40,100
Is that for the 2526 school year, the budget we're currently in, when the board passed that budget, the board looked at,

512
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:55,100
having to use $1,937,000 of OPEB funds, which are retirement funds that we've already paid all of our retirement costs so that their money in the district has to spend.

513
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:58,100
They were going to use that to balance the budget.

514
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:06,100
As of today, it looks like we will not have to use those OPEB funds, which means they'll still be available.

515
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:13,100
The reason for that is one, we sold McNeil, so that brought in revenue that we had not anticipated.

516
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:24,100
Two, we had vacant and unfilled positions that were in the budget that we did not employ, so that was a cost savings, and then there was good fiscal management.

517
00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:44,100
Three year, Ms. Elwood has done an excellent job of keeping a day-to-day sharp eye on all of our expenses so that the slightly under $2 million that we are going to use the OPEB to balance this budget will still be available in the future.

518
00:46:44,100 --> 00:46:51,100
So that's the good news.

519
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:59,100
Now we have some things I just want to go through before we go through our scenarios, and these basically just give you some overall budgeting.

520
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:17,100
One, the first slide that you see is showing that in, well, the very first slide you just had up there showed that right now we need to cut $5.7 million.

521
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:27,100
We thought it was 4.5, it ends up being 5.7 because of insurance increases and transportation costs.

522
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:46,100
If we were to simply take care of that, saying we did not have a balanced budget, and we used fund equity, it would drain our fund equity from 12% to under 6%, it would take us from about $11 million in fund equities like our savings account.

523
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:52,100
For rainy day funds, it would take us down to a little over 5 million.

524
00:47:52,100 --> 00:48:03,100
That's not fiscally responsible to do that because after two years, your savings account would be totally dry and you'd have nothing to fall back on.

525
00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:14,100
We right now at 12% the Department of Public Instruction would recommend we have at least 15%, which unfortunately district has not been able to maintain for a few years.

526
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:31,100
See, I have this terrible problem is that I can't see anything close up with my glasses on and I can't see anything far away without my glasses.

527
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:39,100
So we have three budget scenarios, so that was the first one using fund equity, not a good plan.

528
00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:46,100
Second one is, what if we do a combination of OPEB and budget reductions?

529
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:53,100
That will help us somewhat. One, it makes our cuts a little less severe.

530
00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:57,100
However, in regards to the budget, we are going to have to make cuts.

531
00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:02,100
There is no feasible way to come up with 5.7 million without cuts.

532
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:10,100
We also kept to take a look as we're using OPEB funds that is going to have a slight tax increase.

533
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:21,100
And we all know that from last year when parents, when community members saw a large tax increase, they were shocked and not happy.

534
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:23,100
I will use those words.

535
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:35,100
What we look this year is right now, if we come up with a balanced budget, we should have a slight tax decrease in the mill rate, but depending on how we do it depends on the rate.

536
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:47,100
If we do use some OPEB funds and all that for this year with budget reductions as a combination, what we'll have is we'll still have reduction over last year.

537
00:49:47,100 --> 00:49:55,100
But as we continue to do that, it will reduce, but it won't be reduced by as much.

538
00:49:55,100 --> 00:50:11,100
But right now, I do want the public to understand that if we balance this budget appropriately, your school tax portion of the bill should go slightly down from what it was last year.

539
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,100
All right, that's important.

540
00:50:14,100 --> 00:50:17,100
Now, if your house value changes, that has an impact.

541
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:23,100
But if your house value stayed the same, we balanced the budget, your taxes should go down.

542
00:50:23,100 --> 00:50:34,100
Now, the third option is what if we take a use of some OPEB funds, some staff reductions, and also look at a referendum.

543
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:46,100
If we do a referendum in November and that referendum were to pass, we can use those funds during the 26, 27 school year, which could then offset some of our costs.

544
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:52,100
But of course, if we go for referendum, that is asking the taxpayers for a tax increase.

545
00:50:52,100 --> 00:51:01,100
I'm just presenting this to say there are different options for how we can go about balancing a budget, but in the end, we want to make sure our budgets balanced.

546
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:06,100
Three scenarios.

547
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:13,100
We brought up three scenarios last week, and we'll bring to go back over them again.

548
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:16,100
Each one of them will help us balance the budget.

549
00:51:16,100 --> 00:51:19,100
Each one of them have different things going on.

550
00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:30,100
We have A, B, and C. Now, I know that the writing is small up there, so I'm going to basically give you a synopsis of what each of these options are.

551
00:51:30,100 --> 00:51:45,100
Option A looks at going through all of our staffing throughout every portion of our building and taking a look at if we tried to right size our district for not only next year, but for future years.

552
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:54,100
Because it's no secret that the Lincoln Academy right across the street is constructing its second half.

553
00:51:54,100 --> 00:52:05,100
Now, in my discussions, I have found out that once it is finished for the 27, 28 school year, they are not going to take all of their students at one time.

554
00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:08,100
They are going to phase it in over a couple of years.

555
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:17,100
So it means that any student decline won't happen immediately, but it'll be phased out, but it's still declining enrollment.

556
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:21,100
And as we lose students, we lose revenue.

557
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:24,100
So the first option takes a look at all of those.

558
00:52:24,100 --> 00:52:36,100
And at the end, we're going to cut 45 individuals, 44.7, is what we would have less working in the district next year than we would have this year.

559
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:50,100
That would save us 4.877,216 dollars, which means we still have to go under OPEB for another 822,784 dollars

560
00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:52,100
to balance our budget.

561
00:52:52,100 --> 00:52:55,100
Option B is a little more aggressive.

562
00:52:55,100 --> 00:53:04,100
In option B, we're going to cut slightly over 48 students, and we're going to start looking at, can we move programs?

563
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:16,100
In other words, can we take the Beloit Learning Academy and take that from its present location in Cunningham and move those programs to other buildings?

564
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:20,100
So some of those programs would go to the high school.

565
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:26,100
We'd have to work out how that exactly would be, but we'd be looking at utilizing the space of the high school.

566
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:42,100
One of the proposals also is to take Merrill and to make that an early childhood, early learning center, where we'd take the students, other students, move them to the other five elementaries, and use that building as a district center.

567
00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:52,100
Basically would allow us to empty out the Cunningham, so we could then look if we could sell that in the same way we sold McNeil.

568
00:53:52,100 --> 00:54:08,100
That option would net us 5,367,418 dollars, which still means we'd have to take $332,582 out of OPEB.

569
00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:12,100
The third option is the least aggressive.

570
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:31,100
What it does is it cuts 35.2 staff, and those staff are basically vacancies that happen throughout the district, or contracted staff, but it would basically mean that the staff members who currently are working for us this year would have jobs next year.

571
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:38,100
It may not be in the same building, or at the same grade level, but if they were employed this year, they would be employed next year.

572
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:54,100
However, that would save us $3,678,216, which means we still have a shortfall of OPEB of $1,841,784.

573
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:59,100
Each one of these proposals are going to restore staff cuts.

574
00:54:59,100 --> 00:55:14,100
What we have to take a look at is how aggressive do we want to have the cuts in staff for next year, because depending on the aggressiveness of the cuts will depend on how much money we have to use from OPEB to balance it.

575
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:38,100
Now, we can't have the board could decide that it does not want to use OPEB funds, and if that would be the case, then what I would be tasked with my cabinet and with staff is to come back and determine how many more additional cuts, depending on the solution that was in favor to make sure it's balanced.

576
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:44,100
Irregardless, the district is going to look different next year than it does this year.

577
00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:46,100
There is no way around that.

578
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:49,100
I can't come up with additional funds.

579
00:55:49,100 --> 00:55:54,100
Had we hoped last week that there has been some offsetting costs, that would have been great.

580
00:55:54,100 --> 00:55:56,100
However, that is not the case.

581
00:55:56,100 --> 00:56:03,100
So what we need to discuss is, what do we think is the best option going forward?

582
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:07,100
How aggressively should we cut going forward?

583
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:13,100
Once we know that, then it's up to us to try to implement those plans.

584
00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:32,100
If none of these proposals are beneficial, or I should say if none of these proposals are accepted, then I think what the best step is to determine, is there a level of acceptability of use of OPEB funds so that we know, yes, as a board, we feel that we'd be willing to use it.

585
00:56:32,100 --> 00:56:47,100
We'd be willing to use X amount of OPEB for next year, and then whatever the difference is, we'd have to take a look at these options and determine if we needed to cut as severely as option B or cut more aggressively than option C.

586
00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:51,100
And that really is the discussion in front of us tonight.

587
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:58,100
Once we have that, then we can look at, you know, who is going to be displaced?

588
00:56:58,100 --> 00:57:13,100
The one thing as we cut things, we have to realize is that when we cut individuals, it means that certain things that are being done this year, probably are not going to get done to just assume that we're going to find somebody else to take that on.

589
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:15,100
I don't know that that's realistic.

590
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:21,100
I think what it is is some duties could be taken on, but we have to realize some duties can't.

591
00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:33,100
So that's kind of what the, what I'll call the initial discussion is tonight, is to see if we can come to some agreement on how aggressively we should look at next year.

592
00:57:33,100 --> 00:57:42,100
And once we do that, then we will be able to make some fine-tuning on the determinations.

593
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:44,100
How are we going to get that number?

594
00:57:44,100 --> 00:57:54,100
Now, I do think it's important to also note is that the board had certain things that it wanted us to take a look at that are preserved in all of these options.

595
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:58,100
One is staff get a raise.

596
00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:00,100
2.6% is built in.

597
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:06,100
So, in regards to the option, there is a CPI raise for staff.

598
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:11,100
Also, there is no cuts or changes to longevity pay.

599
00:58:11,100 --> 00:58:13,100
I know that those had been discussions forward.

600
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:16,100
All of these options preserve that.

601
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:20,100
So, those are things that take place irregardless.

602
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:26,100
All these options require us to take a look at one athletics.

603
00:58:26,100 --> 00:58:36,100
Now, right now, athletics, we're taking a look at recommending moving middle school athletics into fund 80.

604
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,100
That means the program still exists.

605
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:41,100
We funded out of fund 80 rather than fund 10.

606
00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:51,100
It does mean that those middle school programs are then open to all individuals in the city, not just those that go to frozen or Aldrich.

607
00:58:51,100 --> 00:58:57,100
But it is a mechanism to keep that sports, but yet give some flexibility to fund 10.

608
00:58:57,100 --> 00:59:00,100
We're also looking at reducing our legal costs.

609
00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:03,100
In fact, I have a meeting coming up with our legal providers.

610
00:59:03,100 --> 00:59:09,100
They think they can help us reduce the expenditures that we have had so far.

611
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:20,100
One of the things that I will tell you is that costs us a great deal of legal fees and time are open record requests.

612
00:59:20,100 --> 00:59:22,100
I've been doing this.

613
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:25,100
This is my 30th year as a superintendent.

614
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:30,100
I will tell you that we receive a multi-development record request on a regular basis.

615
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:39,100
That takes a fair amount of legal help to sort through all of the things we cannot provide.

616
00:59:39,100 --> 00:59:47,100
Also, we have one individual that works almost entirely on fulfilling our open record request.

617
00:59:47,100 --> 00:59:51,100
It's just something to take a think of is that these are things we will respond to.

618
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:57,100
These are things we need to respond to, but they are things that do take up time and resources.

619
00:59:57,100 --> 01:00:05,100
And so we're working with our attorneys to find out where can we pare down our legal costs.

620
01:00:05,100 --> 01:00:14,100
For high school, it's been no secret that for the last two years, our budget has won over by $100,000.

621
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:24,100
So basically we're taking a look at, do we either increase by $100,000 or do we look at making changes to be in line with our budget?

622
01:00:24,100 --> 01:00:33,100
I would say right now what we are looking at for our scenarios is to look at each one of our programs in detail

623
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:37,100
and determine if there are cuts that can be made that still preserve programs.

624
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:43,100
In other words, we're not going to eliminate high school athletics when we're not eliminating middle school athletics,

625
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:50,100
but we are going to take a look to determine how many coaches are in each of our sporting events,

626
01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:58,100
how many students do we have, and is there a way that we can make reductions so that we can stand in line with our budget or demands?

627
01:00:58,100 --> 01:01:07,100
Those are just some things that in general that we are taking a look at as we go about trying to solve this process.

628
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:16,100
Once we finish this budget, then the next discussions are right away are referendum.

629
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:24,100
Do we go to referendum? If so, do we go to referendum in November or do we go to referendum in April?

630
01:01:24,100 --> 01:01:32,100
If we go to referendum in November, we need to have a question designed and ready to put forth by the end of August,

631
01:01:32,100 --> 01:01:41,100
so we would have between now and the end of August to determine what are the things that we would want to ask the public to financially support.

632
01:01:41,100 --> 01:01:51,100
If we do pass, we could use those monies during the 26-27 school year, so we would be allowed to use some of those funds.

633
01:01:51,100 --> 01:01:59,100
So if we had to make some initial cuts now, and we put those into referendum, and the referendum were to pass,

634
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:05,100
and those are things we asked to be added back, we could add those back during the same school year.

635
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:13,100
Do we go to April? That way we would have a longer amount of time to determine what should be in this question.

636
01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:18,100
These are just other things that we're going to need to discuss.

637
01:02:18,100 --> 01:02:26,100
Right after this item is done, there's in about committees, because I am asking the board, I want to form two committees.

638
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:32,100
One, I'll just jump ahead, so you won't have to listen as closely next time.

639
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:40,100
One of the committees is what I call a student enrollment committee, and that committee is basically to find out we are draining students each year.

640
01:02:40,100 --> 01:02:50,100
In fact, we just got a new report of where we are currently with our student count, and it is we have lost more students than from our last count.

641
01:02:50,100 --> 01:02:56,100
So we are right now on track to lose over 200 students for this school year from when it started.

642
01:02:56,100 --> 01:03:01,100
Remember, as we lose enrollment, that's less money for us to spend.

643
01:03:01,100 --> 01:03:06,100
So what we need to do is find out why are students leaving our district?

644
01:03:06,100 --> 01:03:09,100
What is it that we can do to stabilize that?

645
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:20,100
Because we can stabilize our enrollment so that it basically knows that from one year to the next, it's moderately stable with just minor fluctuations.

646
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:26,100
We can create a three or five year plan for how we want to deal and where we want to go.

647
01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:36,100
But when we continually lose 200 or more students a year, and as I mentioned earlier, the Lincoln Academy will be opening in 2728 for some grade levels.

648
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:44,100
It is very difficult to continually create a sustainable budget when you have lost students.

649
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:57,100
The other one I'm looking at is that because of the opening of the Lincoln Academy in 2728, we are going to have to take a look at, as we lose students, what is the best way that we can use our resources?

650
01:03:57,100 --> 01:04:01,100
That means our staff and also our buildings.

651
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:12,100
There gets a point when it does not make financial sense to keep all of our buildings open, so we will want to take time to take a look at each of our buildings, what it costs to run them.

652
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:16,100
If we move students, where would we move those two?

653
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:22,100
In fact, I had a discussion with the staff member today, and I learned something I did not know before.

654
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:32,100
I learned something new every day, but the thing I learned today was, when Frouza was constructed, that it was originally designed to be an elementary school, and I had never heard that.

655
01:04:32,100 --> 01:04:34,100
This was the first time.

656
01:04:34,100 --> 01:04:43,100
The goal is to invite staff and the public so we can have some very fruitful discussions and bring recommendations to the board on one.

657
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:46,100
What is that we need to do to stabilize our enrollment?

658
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:58,100
Two, if we continue to have decline in enrollment, how are we going to best use our facilities and our staff to make things work consistently over a period of time?

659
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:01,100
Those are the large issues that we are looking at.

660
01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:16,100
Tonight, if we can determine the direction for setting the budget for the 26-27 school year, we can make the final changes that we need to bring that in front of the board at the upcoming meeting.

661
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:23,100
My goal is always to have a budget before July 1st, which is going to be challenging because we only have one meeting in June.

662
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:31,100
But at least as close to that, so when we're starting a new school year, people know what resources we're working with.

663
01:05:31,100 --> 01:05:37,100
If we can do that, then we can also start determining if we need to make certain cuts.

664
01:05:37,100 --> 01:05:44,100
Are there certain positions that we would cut that we would want to think about putting back in in an upcoming referendum?

665
01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:58,100
So, each three of these scenarios, and it lays out basically where we would cut in each one of our buildings, and every one of our buildings is going to be reduced in staff.

666
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:07,100
It's going to be which one of these do we think is the most, which one would we like to adopt for the next year?

667
01:06:08,100 --> 01:06:17,100
And if none of these meet that, what are the parameters that we need to go to tweak any of these to work?

668
01:06:17,100 --> 01:06:24,100
So, that's a lot more talking than I had originally planned to do, but I think it's important to set the stage.

669
01:06:24,100 --> 01:06:27,100
So, right now, it's basically a discussion.

670
01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:30,100
A, B, and C are up there.

671
01:06:30,100 --> 01:06:36,100
The board members have that, is trying to make a discussion of where would you like us to go from here?

672
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:44,100
Because if I know where you'd like us to go, I will do my best to work with staff to accomplish that goal.

673
01:06:44,100 --> 01:06:59,100
Dr. Anderson, before we begin the discussion, I had specifically requested the administrators walk us through the proposed budget reductions 2026, 2027, May 12 presentation.

674
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:10,100
I understand it doesn't include option C, but I think there's a lot of good details in here that board members and the public should hear before we begin.

675
01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:12,100
Yep, that's fine, we have that.

676
01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:13,100
Thank you.

677
01:07:13,100 --> 01:07:16,100
Madam Chair, just one point of clarification real quick.

678
01:07:16,100 --> 01:07:23,100
If I may, I know Dr. Anderson, you spoke about the committee structure, which is our next agenda item.

679
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:28,100
But informally, when we understood this was coming up, there's two committees.

680
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:33,100
One with like enrollment, the marketing, how do we reverse enrollment?

681
01:07:33,100 --> 01:07:38,100
And then I understood the second one was going to be referendum and use of buildings.

682
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:46,100
But when you just described it to us here, you didn't say it was referendum and buildings, you talked about, you talked about just about buildings.

683
01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:52,100
So, the second committee is one that would help figure out if we needed to referendum, right?

684
01:07:52,100 --> 01:08:00,100
Well, I think both committees are going to end up tackling part of the referendum question because I don't think there's any way they're all intertwined.

685
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:09,100
So for enrollment, what is it that with enrollment that we may need to do to stabilize our students and as we look at the buildings and staff.

686
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:13,100
So I think that referendum discussions are going to happen in both of those committees.

687
01:08:13,100 --> 01:08:14,100
Thank you.

688
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:19,100
Thank you, board member, and that's an excellent question.

689
01:08:19,100 --> 01:08:26,100
Let's keep on the agenda item at hand because there are a lot of questions.

690
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:30,100
There's a lot of information and a lot of important things we need to cover.

691
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:35,100
Dr. Anderson, do you have the presentation?

692
01:08:35,100 --> 01:08:36,100
It's up there.

693
01:08:36,100 --> 01:08:37,100
Hello.

694
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:41,100
I'm going to tell you that's a different sheath and I started with.

695
01:08:42,100 --> 01:08:45,100
No, we can do it.

696
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:46,100
We can do it.

697
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:48,100
I just need to look over from here.

698
01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:49,100
All right.

699
01:08:49,100 --> 01:08:54,100
So this basically goes into our, I'll talk loud so you should be able to hear me.

700
01:08:54,100 --> 01:08:56,100
These go with our shortfalls.

701
01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:57,100
All right.

702
01:08:57,100 --> 01:09:00,100
So why are we this the situation we're in?

703
01:09:00,100 --> 01:09:03,100
We're in because we're declining students.

704
01:09:03,100 --> 01:09:10,100
We expect that for the 26-27 school year, our enrollment is going to be 200 students the last year.

705
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:25,100
The student's less than it was this school year and the bottom line is it probably could be slightly more than that because right now we're on track to be slightly over 200 students fewer than we were last year.

706
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:34,100
We were also estimated in 27-28 with the Lincoln Academy that could hold another 750 students and we had the possibility of losing 600.

707
01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:40,100
I think we can modify that number, saw knowing that they're not going to open all seats at one time.

708
01:09:40,100 --> 01:10:00,100
However, over a period of time they are going to fill that building so it'll be phased in so we are still looking at, because the building's opening, the most likely students to go there are going to be students from bullish because it's in or down.

709
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:05,100
Our revenue increase, this is what the state says, here's what you need to figure out.

710
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:09,100
And there's here so much money we're going to give you for students as I already mentioned.

711
01:10:09,100 --> 01:10:16,100
If we have less students, we have less revenue to spend.

712
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:18,100
These are what we're hoping.

713
01:10:18,100 --> 01:10:24,100
Now, special ed is what we had hoped last week was going to be increased to 50 or 60 percent.

714
01:10:24,100 --> 01:10:26,100
That did not happen.

715
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:31,100
So these are the numbers that we currently have, which we've used in our projections.

716
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:34,100
We did build in the salary increase.

717
01:10:34,100 --> 01:10:45,100
Our health insurance increase, as I said, really went from 4.5 to 5.7 is that our health increase went to 18 percent.

718
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:46,100
We had budgeted 10.

719
01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:51,100
We were also budgeting a 10 percent increase from 27-28.

720
01:10:51,100 --> 01:11:00,100
We pay a significant amount of our money that comes into us to the charter schools because that's how the funding system works.

721
01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:12,100
So money comes to us and then it goes to, in this case, like the Lincoln Academy or Rock County Christian.

722
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:19,100
Utility costs, just normal things are going up because inflation goes up.

723
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:23,100
So our costs, and we have the same cost of your household costs.

724
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:26,100
So this is why we're in part of the shape line.

725
01:11:26,100 --> 01:11:29,100
These are some of the things that are just realities.

726
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:38,100
But the realities are, as long as we have less students than our costs increase, we have to make budget cuts to balance them.

727
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:43,100
These are the forecast models I had mentioned originally, some of this forecast.

728
01:11:43,100 --> 01:11:50,100
If we were to take the 5.7 and we basically were to fund that out of fund equity,

729
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:54,100
this line, which is hard for you to see, is our mill rate.

730
01:11:54,100 --> 01:11:59,100
And basically if we use fund equity, it shows it because we have less.

731
01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:03,100
Now this is not what you want to do because you can only do it for two years.

732
01:12:03,100 --> 01:12:08,100
But basically it shows the mill rate going down.

733
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:13,100
All right?

734
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:16,100
We're rolling context by building.

735
01:12:16,100 --> 01:12:23,100
What you'll see is, I said, we lose an average of 200 students per year or at least we have that.

736
01:12:23,100 --> 01:12:29,100
The district total in 2024, we had 5200 kids.

737
01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:35,100
25, we had 5,000. Right now, 4,000, 706.

738
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:37,100
That's why it's not sustainable.

739
01:12:37,100 --> 01:12:45,100
As we keep losing students, we keep losing revenue because our revenue is based on our student count.

740
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:50,100
So every time we continue to lose students, the reason I said we need the committee,

741
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:54,100
the amount of revenue we can spend goes down.

742
01:12:54,100 --> 01:13:04,100
Our elementary school was 2,484, then 2,455, then 2,356.

743
01:13:04,100 --> 01:13:06,100
Elementary school goes down.

744
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:13,100
Middle school was 1,015, then 987, 921.

745
01:13:13,100 --> 01:13:21,100
High school, 1,339, dropped to 1,219, dropped to 1,132.

746
01:13:21,100 --> 01:13:26,100
The other one of our schools that are increasing in enrollment is our virtual school,

747
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:37,100
which we had 85, 24, 86, and 25 in 1,042, or 142 in 26, which was 1,000 that would have been better.

748
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:39,100
But it's only one that's increasing.

749
01:13:39,100 --> 01:13:47,100
Our alternative programs, we had 205, and we dropped 182, 118.

750
01:13:47,100 --> 01:13:52,100
The bottom line is that we are losing student enrollment.

751
01:13:52,100 --> 01:13:59,100
Now, as you lose enrollment, and one of us here three years ago, I gave a similar presentation to the Board at the time.

752
01:13:59,100 --> 01:14:04,100
What I told them at that time is they had lost at that time about 25% of their student body,

753
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:07,100
but they hadn't decreased the staff.

754
01:14:07,100 --> 01:14:09,100
They said that was unsustainable.

755
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:15,100
What it is, we're continuing to lose student enrollment,

756
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:17,100
over the last several years.

757
01:14:17,100 --> 01:14:19,100
They have been cutting positions.

758
01:14:19,100 --> 01:14:32,100
So now, I mean, it's just reality is that if you have less students, we need to have less staff.

759
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:37,100
Just another enrollment chart basically shows you in each of the schools how much we have.

760
01:14:37,100 --> 01:14:39,100
We are going down into enrollment.

761
01:14:39,100 --> 01:14:41,100
A lot of the slides picked that up.

762
01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:47,100
But the reason we keep emphasizing that is not only I want to real home,

763
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:52,100
we have less students, we have less revenue, but it also means when we take a look at our students,

764
01:14:52,100 --> 01:14:56,100
if we have less students, where are we going to make staffing changes?

765
01:14:56,100 --> 01:15:00,100
Because obviously, we need less staff if we need less students.

766
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:03,100
The trouble is, they don't all fall in one spot.

767
01:15:03,100 --> 01:15:10,100
They fall in different spots, so it makes it harder to say, well, we can just cut up the elementary because that's when you lose the students.

768
01:15:10,100 --> 01:15:18,100
Now, we lose students throughout the district, but we still have less students, so then we have to take a look at our offerings,

769
01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:24,100
and where can we reduce teachers because we don't have as many students in elementary classrooms?

770
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:33,100
Where can we reduce classes at the middle school high school level because our enrollment has dropped so that we don't have as many students in those classes?

771
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:37,100
That's what all these options took into consideration.

772
01:15:38,100 --> 01:15:43,100
But if you can go back one more, I'll just quickly go through.

773
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:49,100
This basically shows how many students, especially in our buildings.

774
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:52,100
So if we look at conference, it has a bike grade level.

775
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:55,100
Conference has 439 students.

776
01:15:55,100 --> 01:16:06,100
It goes, gassed the bike grade a little more, I can touch the street, and it shows, so we've looked at every one of the schools in the building.

777
01:16:06,100 --> 01:16:13,100
We're taking a look at how many students are in each one, and we're trying to take a look at where do we need to make modifications.

778
01:16:13,100 --> 01:16:18,100
But, here regardless, the student counts are going down.

779
01:16:18,100 --> 01:16:23,100
The student counts are going down.

780
01:16:23,100 --> 01:16:29,100
I think the next one is homelessness.

781
01:16:29,100 --> 01:16:34,100
One thing is also that

782
01:16:34,100 --> 01:16:39,100
we have about 13% of our students in this district are homeless.

783
01:16:39,100 --> 01:16:43,100
That is a large number.

784
01:16:43,100 --> 01:16:47,100
Homeless students have the right to go to any school in the district.

785
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:49,100
We don't prevent that.

786
01:16:49,100 --> 01:16:52,100
We just have a larger number than most.

787
01:16:52,100 --> 01:16:55,100
We have a larger number of certain types of students.

788
01:16:55,100 --> 01:17:00,100
It just takes more resources to help with those students because of the situation they're in.

789
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:08,100
13% is much higher than the average district.

790
01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:11,100
It's just one of those things that we deal with.

791
01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:15,100
That's why sometimes we take a look at where do we make cuts.

792
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:19,100
You can't make them equally across the board in all areas.

793
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:21,100
You can't just say we're going to cut staff by 10%.

794
01:17:21,100 --> 01:17:29,100
High school is 10% middle school because the types of students we have and where they're located, it doesn't fall.

795
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:32,100
So, neatly.

796
01:17:32,100 --> 01:17:35,100
Special education.

797
01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:38,100
Special education students also.

798
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:44,100
So when you take a look, special education students have what's called an individualized education.

799
01:17:44,100 --> 01:17:50,100
I always forget it's a program or plan, which is an IEP.

800
01:17:50,100 --> 01:17:56,100
And each of the IEPs help dictate what these students are going to receive for additional support

801
01:17:56,100 --> 01:18:00,100
because they can live up to their potential.

802
01:18:00,100 --> 01:18:05,100
It sometimes requires additional support in instructional aids.

803
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:08,100
It requires staff providing them minutes.

804
01:18:08,100 --> 01:18:19,100
So it's not that, well, if our population goes up, sometimes the instructional services tell us that we need to provide more resources.

805
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:28,100
There was a question, I think it was one of the public comments that were read about hair professionals in the special education program.

806
01:18:28,100 --> 01:18:33,100
We have to take a look at not only how many students do we have in special ed,

807
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:37,100
but we need to take a look at what are the requirements of their IEPs.

808
01:18:37,100 --> 01:18:41,100
How many minutes do we have to meet in different types of instruction?

809
01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:45,100
So, again, it's not just an easy

810
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:54,100
confidence as well because actually our special education population is expanding in not decreasing.

811
01:18:54,100 --> 01:18:59,100
Excuse me, we can go to the next one.

812
01:18:59,100 --> 01:19:20,100
After taking a look at all of the things, what we did is we tried to take a look at where, what positions could we cut in each of buildings and each of the departments.

813
01:19:21,100 --> 01:19:33,100
In other words, take a look at what our student needs, what our staffing needs, what are the, basically the budgetary limitations we're living under.

814
01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:40,100
And so we went place by place to take a look at what are going to be cut.

815
01:19:40,100 --> 01:19:50,100
First we cut, as I said, like an option C, if there are vacant positions where people may have retired and people may have left for another position.

816
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:54,100
If it was a position, then we'd have in the books, but we couldn't fill it for a while.

817
01:19:54,100 --> 01:20:01,100
We took a look at, you know, eliminating those right away and then trying to say, existing staff, where can we move them?

818
01:20:01,100 --> 01:20:06,100
We also took a look at going farther than that with A and B and saying,

819
01:20:06,100 --> 01:20:14,100
we're going to not only eliminate the vacant positions, we're also going to take a look at what are the positions do we have.

820
01:20:14,100 --> 01:20:22,100
And if we're stand to worst, where would we do layoffs?

821
01:20:22,100 --> 01:20:26,100
Where would we tell people that are currently working this year, they don't have a job next year?

822
01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:30,100
So we went through each of them, keeps changing.

823
01:20:30,100 --> 01:20:37,100
We went through each of the, we went through COAC and each of the buildings to make some determination.

824
01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:43,100
So, like here, administrative assistance, so administration.

825
01:20:43,100 --> 01:20:51,100
So we're taking a look at, you know, what are the cuts, where can we make cuts, where can we make cuts administrators building grounds.

826
01:20:51,100 --> 01:20:59,100
One of the things in two of the plans, in sections A and B, is elementary schools, what do we have deans next year?

827
01:20:59,100 --> 01:21:06,100
So we take A and B, one of the things that they used to have the system principles, that was reduced to a dean.

828
01:21:06,100 --> 01:21:12,100
Under A and B, we would take away the dean position so the principal would be in charge of the elementary school.

829
01:21:13,100 --> 01:21:22,100
We cut administrators at the COLAC, so we have some of our, we have basically three majors.

830
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:26,100
We looked at cutting, we looked at cutting the director of nursing services.

831
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:34,100
We looked at cutting the director of alternative programs, and we looked at cutting the coordinator of steam education.

832
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:37,100
Plus, a secretarial staff.

833
01:21:37,100 --> 01:21:44,100
So, we, we didn't leave anybody out in any of the discussions.

834
01:21:44,100 --> 01:21:48,100
So, there was no sacred building or sacred department.

835
01:21:48,100 --> 01:21:50,100
They couldn't have reductions.

836
01:21:50,100 --> 01:21:57,100
Like I said, the end result is going to be is, how deep do we want to go in this first year?

837
01:21:57,100 --> 01:22:02,100
So, as I said, we own the deans, the biggest one is there wouldn't be no deans.

838
01:22:02,100 --> 01:22:07,100
We went for instructional support, secretarial staff, security officers.

839
01:22:07,100 --> 01:22:11,100
Every area we took a look at.

840
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:18,100
So, we keep going, but this is building capacity.

841
01:22:18,100 --> 01:22:26,100
So, as we take a look especially with our second one, as we keep losing students, you know, all of our buildings did all more students.

842
01:22:27,100 --> 01:22:29,100
What is it going to make sense for us to say?

843
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:38,100
We can close down building X and move the students to other buildings so that, you know, we can have reduction.

844
01:22:38,100 --> 01:22:44,100
We can have a reduction in, you know, heating lights, you know, those types of things.

845
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:47,100
Give us a positive of a building to sell.

846
01:22:47,100 --> 01:22:49,100
So, we took a look at where is the capacity.

847
01:22:49,100 --> 01:22:52,100
All of our buildings have capacity.

848
01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:54,100
All right.

849
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:59,100
They were, we had more students, they could hold them, we have less students.

850
01:22:59,100 --> 01:23:06,100
So, each one of our buildings have access capacity that we could make changes.

851
01:23:06,100 --> 01:23:14,100
So, there's one of the reasons that I have one of the committees to take a look because if we lose even more in the 2728,

852
01:23:14,100 --> 01:23:17,100
it's not going to be feasible to keep all of our buildings open.

853
01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:21,100
We're going to have to take a look at which building doesn't make the most sense to close.

854
01:23:22,100 --> 01:23:23,100
And what would we do?

855
01:23:23,100 --> 01:23:24,100
Do we sell that?

856
01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:28,100
And then how do we rearrange those students or programs in different buildings?

857
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:34,100
There's a building, you can go to the next one.

858
01:23:38,100 --> 01:23:39,100
All right.

859
01:23:39,100 --> 01:23:41,100
She said the option C was an ear.

860
01:23:41,100 --> 01:23:44,100
Option C is what I presented last week.

861
01:23:44,100 --> 01:23:47,100
If you take a look, basically it takes our total reduction.

862
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:50,100
Option A, as I said, is aggressive.

863
01:23:50,100 --> 01:23:55,100
We would cut 45 staff members from next year's budget.

864
01:23:56,100 --> 01:23:58,100
B, we would cut.

865
01:24:01,100 --> 01:24:05,100
94 out of the budget.

866
01:24:05,100 --> 01:24:08,100
And we'd also be moving closing buildings.

867
01:24:08,100 --> 01:24:10,100
Or at least using buildings.

868
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:18,100
We'd be closing, cutting and moving those programs into the high school and into Maryland.

869
01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:20,100
We'd be moving Maryland making it a different.

870
01:24:20,100 --> 01:24:25,100
We'd make it early learning center rather than in elementary school.

871
01:24:32,100 --> 01:24:35,100
This goes through each one, so central office.

872
01:24:35,100 --> 01:24:39,100
Currently we have 73.5.

873
01:24:40,100 --> 01:24:45,100
We would take a look at the net reductions of losing eight positions.

874
01:24:45,100 --> 01:24:50,100
In the elementary school, we currently have 316.

875
01:24:50,100 --> 01:24:53,100
We'd be looking at almost 10 reductions.

876
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:56,100
Facilities, we'd be cutting two.

877
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:59,100
Facilities are like our maintenance teams.

878
01:24:59,100 --> 01:25:02,100
High school or Journal of Education, we'd look at cutting 12.

879
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:05,100
Middle school, we'd be looking at 12 in here.

880
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:08,100
It just outlines each of the buildings.

881
01:25:09,100 --> 01:25:11,100
So, all rich, five and a half.

882
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:14,100
What, what are the Academy 3?

883
01:25:14,100 --> 01:25:16,100
Call it more, High School 9.

884
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:18,100
Converse 2.2.

885
01:25:18,100 --> 01:25:22,100
When it has a point, it means we're sharing staff with other buildings.

886
01:25:26,100 --> 01:25:28,100
I want to go through.

887
01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:29,100
Converse 2.

888
01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:31,100
District office.

889
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:32,100
Eight.

890
01:25:32,100 --> 01:25:34,100
Facilities operations 2.

891
01:25:34,100 --> 01:25:36,100
Fruits of six and a half.

892
01:25:36,100 --> 01:25:38,100
Gaston, 2.2.

893
01:25:38,100 --> 01:25:39,100
Hack at 1.2.

894
01:25:39,100 --> 01:25:41,100
Meryl, 4.2.

895
01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:43,100
Under eight.

896
01:25:43,100 --> 01:25:47,100
Robinson, we'd actually add a 0.3 and shared staff.

897
01:25:47,100 --> 01:25:50,100
In Todd, we'd be losing a 0.2.

898
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:55,100
These are all, basically to say,

899
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:58,100
we're going to have to have reductions in all of our buildings.

900
01:25:58,100 --> 01:26:01,100
Each of our buildings are going to look different.

901
01:26:01,100 --> 01:26:06,100
They're going to depend on, you know,

902
01:26:06,100 --> 01:26:08,100
where's, like I said,

903
01:26:08,100 --> 01:26:11,100
B, A is aggressive, B is more aggressive.

904
01:26:11,100 --> 01:26:16,100
We didn't have C on this because that came one after the last Tuesday.

905
01:26:16,100 --> 01:26:21,100
And as I said, C basically maintains all the building structures

906
01:26:21,100 --> 01:26:26,100
and where they are, leaves the deans in the buildings,

907
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:28,100
but it uses the most old bed funds.

908
01:26:28,100 --> 01:26:32,100
Just shy of $2 million and they'll have to balance.

909
01:26:32,100 --> 01:26:37,100
Option B is that we had option A and B.

910
01:26:37,100 --> 01:26:40,100
Again, I noticed this on repetitive.

911
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:45,100
Basically, option B would have the same cuts as option A,

912
01:26:45,100 --> 01:26:47,100
a few more cuts than that,

913
01:26:47,100 --> 01:26:51,100
and then we'd also be looking at how we're using our buildings.

914
01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:57,100
This was basically a summary page.

915
01:26:57,100 --> 01:27:01,100
For A and B, and I'll add C to it.

916
01:27:01,100 --> 01:27:05,100
A, it maintains our current structures and we load buildings

917
01:27:05,100 --> 01:27:09,100
stay in place with targeted reductions in staff.

918
01:27:09,100 --> 01:27:13,100
B, it basically, we're redesigning the system.

919
01:27:13,100 --> 01:27:16,100
We're going to use Maryland differently,

920
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:19,100
and we're going to basically empty out Cunningham,

921
01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:21,100
and so we'd be using the high school differently.

922
01:27:21,100 --> 01:27:24,100
We'd be using Maryland differently.

923
01:27:24,100 --> 01:27:29,100
The reductions on option A, 44.7.

924
01:27:29,100 --> 01:27:32,100
Option B, 48.2.

925
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:37,100
The instructions would change because Maryland came to an early learning center.

926
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:40,100
The other ones would absorb the K-5,

927
01:27:40,100 --> 01:27:43,100
and it doesn't show up here,

928
01:27:43,100 --> 01:27:51,100
but we'd also have to use BLA and move that into Poland Memorial High School.

929
01:27:51,100 --> 01:27:55,100
The efficiencies, if we keep everything the same with the students,

930
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:59,100
it's some efficiencies, but basically the buildings are showing us

931
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:04,100
as the buildings. It's not a big change as far as what's to take to operate a building.

932
01:28:04,100 --> 01:28:08,100
If we option B, where we start closing things, obviously we can close buildings down.

933
01:28:08,100 --> 01:28:15,100
That means we're going to stay on some of those, what I'll call, facility costs.

934
01:28:16,100 --> 01:28:21,100
Student support under A, since we keep all the buildings the same,

935
01:28:21,100 --> 01:28:28,100
it's less disruptive because the buildings stay the same.

936
01:28:28,100 --> 01:28:32,100
So, Maryland remains to be an elementary school,

937
01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:35,100
Poland Learning Academy, Saze, and Cunningham.

938
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:37,100
It just, we're going to have them with less staff.

939
01:28:37,100 --> 01:28:43,100
If we do B, again, we're going to make more changes in buildings.

940
01:28:43,100 --> 01:28:45,100
Total savings.

941
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:52,100
This would give us, as you said, $4,697,260 in savings,

942
01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:55,100
which means we still need to use OCAP.

943
01:28:55,100 --> 01:29:01,100
B is more aggressive, that would say it was $5,187,418,

944
01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:03,100
but still we use OCAP.

945
01:29:03,100 --> 01:29:08,100
And so, they said C is not up here because C wasn't in that original document.

946
01:29:08,100 --> 01:29:11,100
C is almost $2 million of OCAP.

947
01:29:11,100 --> 01:29:14,100
It would keep the building structures the same.

948
01:29:14,100 --> 01:29:21,100
It would basically minimize staffing cuts to the vacant positions, so about $36.

949
01:29:21,100 --> 01:29:29,100
And it would keep the deans in the elementary schools.

950
01:29:29,100 --> 01:29:36,100
Legal costs, as we're trying to look, we use for various reasons we are trying to reduce

951
01:29:36,100 --> 01:29:40,100
our legal costs in 2324.

952
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:47,100
Our legal costs were about $475,025.

953
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:51,100
They were just shy of $500,000.

954
01:29:51,100 --> 01:29:56,100
Right now, as of March, we are correcting $334,000.

955
01:29:56,100 --> 01:30:01,100
So, we're trying to take a look at how can we reduce our legal costs,

956
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:06,100
so that we can use those dollars elsewhere.

957
01:30:06,100 --> 01:30:13,100
One of the things I have suggested if we go back is looking at potentially in-house counsel.

958
01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:19,100
Some other districts that are about our size have their own attorney on staff $8 a day,

959
01:30:19,100 --> 01:30:25,100
and that might be an option to look at that might give us some cost savings.

960
01:30:25,100 --> 01:30:29,100
All right, the next slide.

961
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:36,100
These are smaller ones, but every dollar we save is a dollar.

962
01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:39,100
It's like cutting professional development travel.

963
01:30:39,100 --> 01:30:44,100
In other words, can we basically limit when we're going to leave?

964
01:30:44,100 --> 01:30:50,100
So, if it's not funded by a grant, basically, we would try to limit, so we didn't do it.

965
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:53,100
We do grant funds.

966
01:30:53,100 --> 01:30:56,100
If I cut grant funds, it doesn't save any fund $10.

967
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:58,100
It doesn't have balance of budget.

968
01:30:58,100 --> 01:31:03,100
But we can take a look at, other than spending dollars, professional development dollars,

969
01:31:03,100 --> 01:31:07,100
or a fund 10, how can we minimize that as much as possible?

970
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:13,100
How do we keep things in district so that we don't have to travel with food hotel expenses?

971
01:31:13,100 --> 01:31:18,100
They're not, it's on large numbers, as I said, every dollar we save,

972
01:31:18,100 --> 01:31:23,100
we can relocate somewhere else.

973
01:31:23,100 --> 01:31:30,100
Next.

974
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:36,100
The front maintenance is an issue.

975
01:31:36,100 --> 01:31:39,100
There are projects that should be done this summer.

976
01:31:39,100 --> 01:31:44,100
We've already booked them a hold and said, okay, we're not going to do them.

977
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:48,100
The project's one is the parking lot in Aldrich.

978
01:31:48,100 --> 01:31:55,100
If you have driven there, you realize that it has issues.

979
01:31:55,100 --> 01:32:02,100
However, to fix it, we were looking at between 300 and 400,000.

980
01:32:02,100 --> 01:32:08,100
So, I said, we're going to scratch it when I can put that in, we can put it in a referendum.

981
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:14,100
Health maintenance, depending on how you use Cunningham, you can decide not to.

982
01:32:14,100 --> 01:32:16,100
Boy, Memorial we're going to use.

983
01:32:16,100 --> 01:32:20,100
But again, those are projects that would cost us a million dollars.

984
01:32:20,100 --> 01:32:26,100
We said we're going to delay those and we can look at whether or not we put them a referendum.

985
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:29,100
But there are maintenance costs that go all.

986
01:32:29,100 --> 01:32:36,100
One of the things that McKenna mentioned is restrooms and that you have to realize that some of the cuts that have already been made

987
01:32:36,100 --> 01:32:39,100
is we hire contract cleaning out.

988
01:32:39,100 --> 01:32:50,100
Cuts have been made in the past so that the amount of days and hours that we have custodial through in our buildings was reduced.

989
01:32:50,100 --> 01:32:56,100
So, we don't have them as much as we used to have the past.

990
01:32:56,100 --> 01:33:05,100
That's why there's some issues every once in a while that we work with house, they're doing a good job with the staff

991
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:08,100
and the hours that they have available.

992
01:33:08,100 --> 01:33:13,100
But, there are things that we've had to let go.

993
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:16,100
We have other things we have to worry about.

994
01:33:16,100 --> 01:33:21,100
We have to consider informational technology.

995
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:25,100
In 22-23 we spent just shy of 800,000.

996
01:33:25,100 --> 01:33:29,100
We spent then 23-24 and 24-25.

997
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:32,100
We were projected to spend that this year.

998
01:33:32,100 --> 01:33:39,100
We looked at earlier in the year, what about Chromebooks in replacement because they're getting older.

999
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:50,100
Right now we're seeing if we can basically do some things in-house to keep our, you know, so we don't have to go out and spend a lot more money on new Chromebooks.

1000
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:53,100
One, we're not letting them go home in middle school.

1001
01:33:53,100 --> 01:33:59,100
We're going to keep them on site and we're determining how much we're going to eat them at the elementary school.

1002
01:33:59,100 --> 01:34:04,100
High school uses them on a databases that will, you know, they'll continue to take those home.

1003
01:34:04,100 --> 01:34:12,100
But if we keep them at the middle school, if we keep them in the house, there's not as much damage.

1004
01:34:12,100 --> 01:34:18,100
If there's not as much damage, we don't have to have as many repairs as we get to save some dollars.

1005
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:23,100
As I mentioned, custodial, we've already been cutting back on that.

1006
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:26,100
It's a cost saving measure.

1007
01:34:26,100 --> 01:34:30,100
In print services, we do print services in-house.

1008
01:34:30,100 --> 01:34:32,100
Just trying to cut back.

1009
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:37,100
Again, the only reason we still here is to show that we are trying to look at every area.

1010
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:41,100
Some areas have already been cut over the past.

1011
01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:49,100
So this church has had, I don't know in the last time, the board had a budget discussion that says,

1012
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:54,100
we're going to add X amount of dollars to make the pot larger.

1013
01:34:54,100 --> 01:34:59,100
The discussions have been, for the last several years at least,

1014
01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:05,100
what do we have to do without the next year that we have this year because we didn't have less money?

1015
01:35:05,100 --> 01:35:07,100
That's where we're at.

1016
01:35:07,100 --> 01:35:13,100
We did, as I mentioned earlier, we were able to sell McNeil so that added some revenue back.

1017
01:35:13,100 --> 01:35:17,100
Take a look, we do have some lots for sale.

1018
01:35:17,100 --> 01:35:23,100
One of the things we mentioned is if we have excess property that were purchased by an orphan,

1019
01:35:23,100 --> 01:35:25,100
we thought we were going to grow.

1020
01:35:25,100 --> 01:35:29,100
Maybe we take a look at starting to sell those.

1021
01:35:29,100 --> 01:35:33,100
Clarification, those lots are not for sale yet.

1022
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:36,100
We are discussing whether or not we're going to sell them.

1023
01:35:36,100 --> 01:35:41,100
So don't send us emails making us offers yet.

1024
01:35:41,100 --> 01:35:46,100
But one of the things we talked about is when we sold McNeil and Brian's revenue,

1025
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:49,100
so we take a look at other pieces of property that we have

1026
01:35:49,100 --> 01:35:54,100
and see if that will also bring in at least some one time revenue.

1027
01:35:54,100 --> 01:35:56,100
I mean, we're taking a look at colic.

1028
01:35:56,100 --> 01:35:58,100
This is a nice building.

1029
01:35:58,100 --> 01:36:03,100
But with the staff that we currently have, could we reallocate ourselves

1030
01:36:03,100 --> 01:36:08,100
until I can build an operation center and disperse those into some of the buildings

1031
01:36:08,100 --> 01:36:10,100
and then put this building up for sale?

1032
01:36:10,100 --> 01:36:11,100
Okay.

1033
01:36:11,100 --> 01:36:20,100
There's no idea off the table that we're looking at.

1034
01:36:20,100 --> 01:36:23,100
Technology and staff, are they already covered in that?

1035
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:25,100
Lots are covered in that?

1036
01:36:25,100 --> 01:36:31,100
Technology and we dress a little bit?

1037
01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:36,100
Alright, learning SSI students and staff.

1038
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:38,100
This basically is curriculum materials.

1039
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:42,100
In other words, when we take a look at the materials we're using in our classroom,

1040
01:36:42,100 --> 01:36:44,100
are there reductions that we can make?

1041
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:53,100
Are there things that we are using that we don't think that the value we're getting for the product

1042
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:57,100
isn't less than what we're paying for the product?

1043
01:36:57,100 --> 01:36:59,100
So we're trying to take a look.

1044
01:36:59,100 --> 01:37:02,100
Do we have duplications of some materials?

1045
01:37:02,100 --> 01:37:07,100
You know, some technology that we can say, this works better, we can reduce this.

1046
01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:12,100
So anyway, what we're taking a look at is, what types of things do we have in place

1047
01:37:12,100 --> 01:37:18,100
that we can either reduce or eliminate because we think we can cover it in some other way?

1048
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:24,100
In Opap, I've mentioned it several times.

1049
01:37:24,100 --> 01:37:28,100
Opap is the dollars that were set aside originally for retirement.

1050
01:37:28,100 --> 01:37:31,100
We have now paid off the required costs.

1051
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:35,100
The rest of it is money that can be reallocated and used.

1052
01:37:35,100 --> 01:37:42,100
I mean, the suggestion was, since our fund equity is low and we want to put it back in the fund equity,

1053
01:37:42,100 --> 01:37:47,100
to raise that up because right now we're at 12, they would like us to get 15.

1054
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:55,100
But as of February 28th, we have $4.6 million available that could be used offset costs.

1055
01:37:55,100 --> 01:38:03,100
This is not for this budget, but it is going to have to be for the next one.

1056
01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:09,100
We are going to, we used to have auto shop over by the eclipse center.

1057
01:38:09,100 --> 01:38:11,100
That went away.

1058
01:38:11,100 --> 01:38:23,100
So we are looking at moving it over to the high school, take a look at the building in the archilat to expand that.

1059
01:38:23,100 --> 01:38:32,100
However, that is going to require at least a $500,000 investment the next year that I would have to build into that budget

1060
01:38:32,100 --> 01:38:41,100
or, but after the funding through a referendum, for the program we're going to offer would have to be greatly decreased when we are offering

1061
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:46,100
because we just want to have the stations.

1062
01:38:46,100 --> 01:38:51,100
Fund 80 is a mention fund 81s before.

1063
01:38:51,100 --> 01:38:53,100
Fund 80 is our community fund.

1064
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:55,100
I mentioned middle school athletics.

1065
01:38:55,100 --> 01:38:58,100
We opened it up to all students within the district.

1066
01:38:58,100 --> 01:39:03,100
So it would be open to the Lincoln Academy to be open to rock on Christian.

1067
01:39:03,100 --> 01:39:04,100
You can use fund 80.

1068
01:39:04,100 --> 01:39:11,100
Fund 80 are dollars that the whole community is taxed on, but you can take them out of fund 10.

1069
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:23,100
So it would give you some savings in fund 10 because you're moving somewhere out there.

1070
01:39:23,100 --> 01:39:29,100
I think these are just for elections and taking a look at it when we would do potential referendums.

1071
01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:32,100
One, we could do a referendum in November.

1072
01:39:32,100 --> 01:39:39,100
If we do that our question is already in August, or we could look at a referendum in April 6.

1073
01:39:39,100 --> 01:39:46,100
Then we'd have more time, but those are the dates you're limiting to having a referendum.

1074
01:39:46,100 --> 01:39:47,100
Thank you, Dr. Anderson.

1075
01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:50,100
I really appreciate that.

1076
01:39:50,100 --> 01:39:58,100
Are there any administrators that want to add any information or thoughts to this presentation?

1077
01:39:58,100 --> 01:40:03,100
If not, I will open it up to the board and Tom, you had your hand up first.

1078
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:05,100
Thank you, Board President.

1079
01:40:05,100 --> 01:40:11,100
I'll have to excuse myself a little early so that I'm happy you got me on.

1080
01:40:11,100 --> 01:40:18,100
Just in general overview on a bunch of proposals.

1081
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:21,100
To me, it's a hybrid of the three.

1082
01:40:21,100 --> 01:40:25,100
I would not be in favor of choosing A, B, or C.

1083
01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:33,100
I think there's a hybrid mix of all of them that I would be in favor of doing different parts out of one, two, and three.

1084
01:40:33,100 --> 01:40:37,100
So that's just my first comment.

1085
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:45,100
When you mentioned Mackenna Rounds mentioned Hess, and you kind of covered up for them,

1086
01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:48,100
I think that's extremely disrespectful.

1087
01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:51,100
They are paid to do a service to our district.

1088
01:40:51,100 --> 01:40:53,100
They are a service provider.

1089
01:40:53,100 --> 01:41:02,100
They're doing the job of doing the basics of cleaning up bathroom and providing towels and whatever necessities needed in a bathroom.

1090
01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:04,100
They should be called on the carpet for that.

1091
01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:09,100
That's not a reduction in our services.

1092
01:41:09,100 --> 01:41:13,100
We pay them to do a service that I'm sure it's in their contract.

1093
01:41:13,100 --> 01:41:15,100
I wouldn't pass that off.

1094
01:41:15,100 --> 01:41:21,100
I would get on it and get on Hess to make sure they're doing what they're supposed to be doing, and obviously they're not.

1095
01:41:21,100 --> 01:41:30,100
If Mackenna tells us that, that's why she's on the board to tell us those type of things that we don't know.

1096
01:41:30,100 --> 01:41:36,100
We do meet with Hess on a regular basis to review if there's complaints and all that and try to address those.

1097
01:41:36,100 --> 01:41:41,100
Is this the first time you've heard of that, Dr. Anderson?

1098
01:41:41,100 --> 01:41:43,100
Is this the complaint that Mackenna said tonight?

1099
01:41:43,100 --> 01:41:47,100
I think it's the first time I've heard that they didn't have toilet paper or things like that.

1100
01:41:47,100 --> 01:41:48,100
That's pretty basic.

1101
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:49,100
Yes.

1102
01:41:49,100 --> 01:41:56,100
If you clean up a bathroom and I've been in the service industry all my life, and that's the first thing you do is make sure your bathrooms are clean.

1103
01:41:56,100 --> 01:42:04,100
I don't want to get into it, but I'm just saying that's disgusting and should not happen in our schools.

1104
01:42:05,100 --> 01:42:08,100
The fund 80 existing balance.

1105
01:42:08,100 --> 01:42:14,100
Stephanie, do you have what we have existing in our fund, or excuse me, fund 80?

1106
01:42:14,100 --> 01:42:17,100
And I know we've taken some money out of it.

1107
01:42:17,100 --> 01:42:20,100
Is she?

1108
01:42:20,100 --> 01:42:22,100
I'll have to get that number to you.

1109
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:24,100
I'm not sure off the top of my head.

1110
01:42:24,100 --> 01:42:30,100
But I heard today that we took monies out to pay for the Fourth of July from last year.

1111
01:42:30,100 --> 01:42:32,100
We did, but it's very minimal.

1112
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:33,100
Correct.

1113
01:42:34,100 --> 01:42:45,100
If I remember correctly back, correct me if I'm wrong, which you will, we had like $230,000, $40,000 existing in that fund.

1114
01:42:45,100 --> 01:42:46,100
Let us correct him.

1115
01:42:46,100 --> 01:42:59,100
We did not levy for fund 80 this fiscal year, but the expenses that have been happening are partly some community activities that have happened in 2526, and also the even start program.

1116
01:43:00,100 --> 01:43:02,100
I think the even start program.

1117
01:43:02,100 --> 01:43:03,100
Don't call me in this.

1118
01:43:03,100 --> 01:43:06,100
It's somewhere around 60 or 70,000.

1119
01:43:06,100 --> 01:43:08,100
It's not very much.

1120
01:43:08,100 --> 01:43:19,100
Correct me if I'm wrong, but even start is an expense to our district being at Cunningham, and they're also being a drain on our fund 80.

1121
01:43:19,100 --> 01:43:21,100
Is that then not correct?

1122
01:43:21,100 --> 01:43:28,100
We did move it into fund 80 because it is a community program because it isn't open to anyone in the community that wants to be a part of it.

1123
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:34,100
But they don't provide any revenue to the district.

1124
01:43:34,100 --> 01:43:35,100
It's just a drain.

1125
01:43:35,100 --> 01:43:37,100
I'm not saying that the program's not good.

1126
01:43:37,100 --> 01:43:38,100
I'm not saying that.

1127
01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:40,100
I'm just saying revenue expenses.

1128
01:43:40,100 --> 01:43:41,100
Yes.

1129
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:44,100
It is an expense to the district and there is no revenue attached to them.

1130
01:43:44,100 --> 01:43:45,100
Yes.

1131
01:43:45,100 --> 01:43:54,100
So normally would even start be a normal fund 80 tax taxing levy.

1132
01:43:55,100 --> 01:43:57,100
Is that part of it?

1133
01:43:57,100 --> 01:43:58,100
Normal?

1134
01:43:58,100 --> 01:44:01,100
I mean, since we have an existing balance, it just comes off of that.

1135
01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:04,100
But when we have zero balance, then we'll have it.

1136
01:44:04,100 --> 01:44:05,100
Yes.

1137
01:44:05,100 --> 01:44:06,100
That is correct.

1138
01:44:06,100 --> 01:44:10,100
If we didn't have a fund balance and fund 80, we would have to levy for those expenses in there.

1139
01:44:10,100 --> 01:44:11,100
That is correct.

1140
01:44:11,100 --> 01:44:12,100
Okay.

1141
01:44:12,100 --> 01:44:13,100
Thank you.

1142
01:44:13,100 --> 01:44:23,100
Dr. Anderson, you talk about moving things out of Cunningham and then selling it.

1143
01:44:23,100 --> 01:44:29,100
Have you looked at the sale ability of selling Cunningham or any of our buildings?

1144
01:44:29,100 --> 01:44:35,100
And I know this is a long road ahead of us and I certainly know that we're going to have

1145
01:44:35,100 --> 01:44:38,100
to sell some buildings and downsides.

1146
01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:52,100
To me, and I have toured less than a month ago, how well built and a solid building Cunningham is and to shut it down completely makes no sense to me.

1147
01:44:53,100 --> 01:44:58,100
And who's going to buy that building in the middle of a neighborhood?

1148
01:44:58,100 --> 01:45:03,100
My thought and I'm just saying this out loud right now and I've expressed it to you before.

1149
01:45:03,100 --> 01:45:10,100
Selling frozen, which is a marketable place on Milwaukee Road and moving those people around town.

1150
01:45:10,100 --> 01:45:12,100
And we've already broached that.

1151
01:45:12,100 --> 01:45:14,100
We've already moved students.

1152
01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:21,100
You know, let's go back to the West side and make sure that we do that and, you know, piece that side of it.

1153
01:45:21,100 --> 01:45:25,100
But more than that, a business sense would be to sell that marketing.

1154
01:45:25,100 --> 01:45:34,100
I mean, I'm not the expert on marketing, but I do know that Milwaukee Road is a much viable interest space than in townline would be.

1155
01:45:34,100 --> 01:45:37,100
And I think that makes more sense.

1156
01:45:37,100 --> 01:45:40,100
Cunningham was built to be an education center.

1157
01:45:40,100 --> 01:45:43,100
It is an education center, but it's not being utilized properly.

1158
01:45:43,100 --> 01:45:46,100
And we get no revenue from the people that are in there.

1159
01:45:46,100 --> 01:45:50,100
BLA is doing an excellent job and I compliment Dr. Schroeder.

1160
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:59,100
And I think if we all put our minds together, we could find a good way where to put the programs that are at Cunningham and move forward.

1161
01:45:59,100 --> 01:46:08,100
I don't think that moving everything out and then selling Cunningham is a, I will not be in favor of anything like that, but I'm only one.

1162
01:46:08,100 --> 01:46:11,100
Colac, I think is an excellent suggestion.

1163
01:46:11,100 --> 01:46:13,100
I think we should go forward with that.

1164
01:46:13,100 --> 01:46:17,100
We have downsides impaired in the last three, four years.

1165
01:46:17,100 --> 01:46:23,100
Colac, we have a business ops center, which I think we should keep within our fold.

1166
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:27,100
It's on our campus as this is, but that's more on our campus.

1167
01:46:27,100 --> 01:46:37,100
You know, how much of Colac we can put in the ops center, how much we can put in the high school or other avenues.

1168
01:46:37,100 --> 01:46:41,100
I think we could view the brain trust, could figure that out.

1169
01:46:41,100 --> 01:46:48,100
And Colac, I think is another, this, I mean, this property, not Colac per se, but this building is very marketable.

1170
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:55,100
I'm, I'm, and I will, I'm just being very forward and I'm the only one and I know that.

1171
01:46:55,100 --> 01:46:59,100
But those are my thoughts on those things as we move forward.

1172
01:46:59,100 --> 01:47:01,100
But going back to the-

1173
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:03,100
Can I just ask for a clarification?

1174
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:04,100
Sure.

1175
01:47:04,100 --> 01:47:05,100
Just for my taking notes.

1176
01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:19,100
So if I heard you right, you would, one of your thoughts would be, I won't call it your recommendation, one of your thoughts would be for us to close frozen.

1177
01:47:19,100 --> 01:47:23,100
Move the students from frozen into Cunningham.

1178
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:27,100
So we had a middle school on both sides in self-frozen, correct?

1179
01:47:27,100 --> 01:47:33,100
Well, that's kind of the dream overview, but I'm not sure how that all fits.

1180
01:47:33,100 --> 01:47:37,100
I'm just saying that's just a thought, I don't know if that's correct.

1181
01:47:37,100 --> 01:47:38,100
I mean, that's my thought.

1182
01:47:38,100 --> 01:47:40,100
I mean, a thought.

1183
01:47:40,100 --> 01:47:41,100
All right.

1184
01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:43,100
I'm not sure if it works.

1185
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:50,100
I'm just saying, if you're proposing to close that, I'd say propose selling frozen and close that.

1186
01:47:50,100 --> 01:47:58,100
As I said, since it was mentioned me today, I never realized that frozen was maybe originally intended to be an elementary school.

1187
01:47:58,100 --> 01:47:59,100
Correct.

1188
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:12,100
It might be better off doing if you did that would be to, if you went to middle school on both sides, move the students, but then use frozen as an elementary school and look at closing a couple of your elementary schools.

1189
01:48:12,100 --> 01:48:16,100
You could probably close multiple elementary and fit them in frozen.

1190
01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:24,100
Now, to do all this by September is going to take someone greater than me.

1191
01:48:25,100 --> 01:48:29,100
Before you go any further, I appreciate what you're saying, and I agree.

1192
01:48:29,100 --> 01:48:35,100
That's why I just want to open up everybody's minds into thinking, so don't get pigeonholed into anything.

1193
01:48:35,100 --> 01:48:49,100
Everything should be on the table, as you said earlier, and I just wanted to make sure I'm on that wavelength of opening our minds to all the buildings in our district and reconfiguring it because we are going to do that.

1194
01:48:49,100 --> 01:48:50,100
Thank you.

1195
01:48:51,100 --> 01:49:03,100
I want to remind everyone that we did get some unfortunate news today about the condition of our high school that was news to me from McKenna, the condition.

1196
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:07,100
So, there are things that we don't know.

1197
01:49:07,100 --> 01:49:17,100
I doubt that Dr. Anderson has been in any female restroom and the high school, so he probably doesn't know the condition.

1198
01:49:17,100 --> 01:49:21,100
I have been in the male restrooms and all that.

1199
01:49:21,100 --> 01:49:26,100
I wonder, I try to go to all of the buildings.

1200
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:46,100
My point ultimately is, again, we are here to work together, and I want to make certain that our tone is collaborative, and let's try to avoid using charged words, what may be a financial drain, which I understand that's what you meant, but somebody else may take it

1201
01:49:46,100 --> 01:50:05,100
as a drain on the system where it may be a financial drain, but it may be a lifesaver type of program to a family, and we really should try to keep the compassion and love in our hearts as we're moving through this very difficult time.

1202
01:50:06,100 --> 01:50:11,100
And just another thing for clarification.

1203
01:50:11,100 --> 01:50:33,100
In this proposal, selling Cunningham wasn't part of, it was just shuttering Cunningham at this time because the energy cost per student there is so great, and if those services of the staff members are redundant and can be moved to the high school, there's a cost savings there.

1204
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:39,100
So, you know, could Cunningham be shuttered this year, and we reap those savings?

1205
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:44,100
Yes, and then could it be repurposed next year as you're mentioning?

1206
01:50:44,100 --> 01:50:47,100
Yes, absolutely.

1207
01:50:47,100 --> 01:50:58,100
The idea is, a few years ago, for those who don't remember, the school district of Beloit, I'm very short notice, closed two west side middle schools.

1208
01:50:58,100 --> 01:51:09,100
I would hope that we would avoid that again, moving programs out of a building is much easier than saying, oh, the board's making a decision tonight and we're going to close schools.

1209
01:51:09,100 --> 01:51:21,100
I would really hope that we don't do that, but smaller programs that could save us money today to help us over the next fiscal cliff next year.

1210
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:24,100
I think it's a good discussion to have.

1211
01:51:24,100 --> 01:51:27,100
Thank you, Mr. Hankins.

1212
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:40,100
I just want to just follow up, and thank you for, I meant no disrespect to Dr. Anderson or anybody in this room about my comments and has, either, I'm just saying that I think Hess could do a better job. Thank you.

1213
01:51:40,100 --> 01:51:46,100
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Hankins. You know what? We all can do a better job.

1214
01:51:46,100 --> 01:51:50,100
We can, we can, all of it by myself first and foremost.

1215
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:52,100
Ms. Miller.

1216
01:51:53,100 --> 01:51:54,100
Thank you so much.

1217
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:58,100
Dr. Anderson, I appreciated how you started out with, with some good news.

1218
01:51:58,100 --> 01:52:06,100
So I would like to first offer some positive feedback and some things that I think make a lot of sense and I really appreciated that I heard this evening and that I've seen throughout.

1219
01:52:06,100 --> 01:52:11,100
Then I have a couple of points of feedback and some question slash request for going forward.

1220
01:52:11,100 --> 01:52:12,100
Good.

1221
01:52:12,100 --> 01:52:13,100
Okay.

1222
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:19,100
I first want to start by saying, and I know I'm not alone on the board here in saying this.

1223
01:52:20,100 --> 01:52:30,100
The premise of this whole discussion, and I think we're on the same page about this, should be like, what do we want to provide our children? Like, what is the optimal and ideal education look like for them.

1224
01:52:30,100 --> 01:52:42,100
Given that, as you've explained really nicely, we're going to need to, you know, redefine our new normal, like our baseline for enrollment is going to be very different from what it was even last year right over the next several years.

1225
01:52:42,100 --> 01:52:45,100
So that's the context that I'm approaching this from.

1226
01:52:45,100 --> 01:52:47,100
So some positives that I really appreciate.

1227
01:52:47,100 --> 01:52:50,100
First, I thank you so much for bringing us.

1228
01:52:50,100 --> 01:52:55,100
And I'm mostly going to talk about option C, which I think is the one you were more recommending.

1229
01:52:55,100 --> 01:53:02,100
So in the context of option C, I love that we are building in the CPI and no cuts or changes to longevity.

1230
01:53:02,100 --> 01:53:04,100
So yes, please.

1231
01:53:04,100 --> 01:53:06,100
Let's keep that one of seven.

1232
01:53:06,100 --> 01:53:11,100
Another thing that I really appreciate was utilizing fund 80 for middle school sports.

1233
01:53:11,100 --> 01:53:13,100
I think that's a win for everybody.

1234
01:53:13,100 --> 01:53:17,100
And, you know, exploits often thought of it.

1235
01:53:17,100 --> 01:53:18,100
We're big and small.

1236
01:53:18,100 --> 01:53:22,100
I mean, the more kids, you know, relationships to make the better.

1237
01:53:22,100 --> 01:53:23,100
That's wonderful.

1238
01:53:23,100 --> 01:53:24,100
Thank you so much for that.

1239
01:53:24,100 --> 01:53:30,100
I absolutely love hearing that there's a few different options for us to reduce legal costs.

1240
01:53:30,100 --> 01:53:31,100
Tons of sense.

1241
01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:32,100
Thank you so much.

1242
01:53:32,100 --> 01:53:37,100
I know coached a new sent us an email earlier today, and I heard you allude also.

1243
01:53:37,100 --> 01:53:39,100
So thank you for raising that up.

1244
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:50,100
About just, you know, making sure we're being efficient with our coaching staff and how we do sports and how we staff that so that we can continue to offer as many opportunities as possible to our kids.

1245
01:53:50,100 --> 01:53:51,100
Love that.

1246
01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:52,100
So thank you.

1247
01:53:52,100 --> 01:54:00,100
I was really, really, really excited to hear you describe your vision for the committees, particularly the student enrollment committee.

1248
01:54:00,100 --> 01:54:01,100
I think that's wonderful.

1249
01:54:01,100 --> 01:54:07,100
I know there's already people who are excited to, you know, roll up their sleeves and do this work with us out in the community.

1250
01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:11,100
So thank you for bringing this to us and for that opportunity.

1251
01:54:11,100 --> 01:54:17,100
And I also really appreciate that, you know, we're not being put.

1252
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:21,100
And I think for President Johnson, just alluded to this a little bit with the comment about West Side Schools.

1253
01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:25,100
Like, thank you for not putting us under the gun and saying, like, we ought to do this right now.

1254
01:54:25,100 --> 01:54:28,100
I think, like, no decisions are made well-enhased.

1255
01:54:28,100 --> 01:54:30,100
So I think that this has been a good process.

1256
01:54:30,100 --> 01:54:33,100
And then the last, like, really good highlight.

1257
01:54:33,100 --> 01:54:39,100
I really wanted to share from my perspective was I really appreciate keeping the deans an option C.

1258
01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:45,100
You know, our kids and teachers really benefit when we have good administration and good administrative teams.

1259
01:54:45,100 --> 01:54:46,100
So thank you.

1260
01:54:46,100 --> 01:54:49,100
So those are my big positives.

1261
01:54:49,100 --> 01:54:52,100
Some concerns that I had.

1262
01:54:52,100 --> 01:54:54,100
I'm going to talk a little bit about DLI.

1263
01:54:54,100 --> 01:54:56,100
In a second, I'm going to skip ahead to the other ones.

1264
01:54:56,100 --> 01:55:02,100
First, I'm not at all in favor of cutting our library media specialist folks down to halftime.

1265
01:55:02,100 --> 01:55:08,100
I love that we're working in a scope of, you know, cutting through attrition.

1266
01:55:08,100 --> 01:55:13,100
But cutting somebody's full-time employment to .5 is essentially not really cutting.

1267
01:55:13,100 --> 01:55:20,100
I mean, if somebody's livelihood is depending on a full-time position, cutting to a .5 is not really cutting through attrition.

1268
01:55:20,100 --> 01:55:22,100
I also think the practicality.

1269
01:55:22,100 --> 01:55:29,100
And I am so, oh, I forgot to mention this in a positive, all in favor of reducing the one-to-one, especially the elementary school.

1270
01:55:29,100 --> 01:55:35,100
At the middle school, while we still have Chromebooks, it is a full-time job in and of itself just to deal with Chromebooks.

1271
01:55:35,100 --> 01:55:38,100
Like my office at work is situated in a library.

1272
01:55:38,100 --> 01:55:43,100
And it is like high traffic Chromebooks like day and night when we're there.

1273
01:55:43,100 --> 01:55:50,100
I don't think it's practical or reasonable to cut at least at the middle school those media specialists down to .5.

1274
01:55:50,100 --> 01:55:54,100
Or, and I'm not quite sure of the details of that.

1275
01:55:54,100 --> 01:55:55,100
Or, remember, we're sharing.

1276
01:55:55,100 --> 01:56:02,100
So, if a person had a full-time job this year, they would have it next year, but they might be in two buildings.

1277
01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:07,100
And I hear that, and I think that that's well thought, oh, there's something happening.

1278
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:08,100
Sorry, it's well thought out.

1279
01:56:08,100 --> 01:56:14,100
I still think, you know, middle school, the more caring adults that we can consistently get with our kids the better.

1280
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:23,100
So, in addition, just to the practicality of dealing with like the nightmare of that Chromebook, situations can be having a safe space for kids,

1281
01:56:23,100 --> 01:56:27,100
sometimes comes in the form of, you know, a custodian, a library media specialist.

1282
01:56:27,100 --> 01:56:30,100
It's the more adults we get consistently the better.

1283
01:56:30,100 --> 01:56:34,100
So, that's one piece that I didn't love in option C.

1284
01:56:34,100 --> 01:56:40,100
I know this wasn't in option C, but it just, since I've gotten a couple of emails and some feedback about it already,

1285
01:56:40,100 --> 01:56:46,100
I am in like absolutely no way interested in moving BLA into the Bull 8 Memorial High School.

1286
01:56:46,100 --> 01:56:48,100
I think that it presents a lot of issues.

1287
01:56:48,100 --> 01:56:55,100
And I do know that we're looking at option C this year potentially, but like you said, and you're very wise to say that,

1288
01:56:55,100 --> 01:56:59,100
like next year, we're going to still be doing a lot of like probably drastic reshaping.

1289
01:56:59,100 --> 01:57:06,100
And so, I just like on the record right now, I think that's, it's a bad idea for many reasons, and we don't need to get into it all today.

1290
01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:09,100
Because, you know, we're mostly talking about options anyway.

1291
01:57:09,100 --> 01:57:11,100
I want to talk a little bit about DLI.

1292
01:57:11,100 --> 01:57:16,100
I was a little shocked to see, in option C, and I just want to read off of your side.

1293
01:57:16,100 --> 01:57:17,100
I don't miss quoted.

1294
01:57:17,100 --> 01:57:24,100
It looks like the language has to do with, it's okay, no, I'm not going to find it now.

1295
01:57:24,100 --> 01:57:28,100
But changing the DLI positions to ESL.

1296
01:57:28,100 --> 01:57:31,100
And so, yeah, right.

1297
01:57:31,100 --> 01:57:37,100
And so, I think, you know, Miss Fox actually, you know, when we put together kind of those priorities from the board,

1298
01:57:37,100 --> 01:57:42,100
I know one of the things that we highlighted a couple times on there is wanting to preserve services to students

1299
01:57:42,100 --> 01:57:49,100
that we felt are, you know, needed and necessary, but also could potentially like stabilize, you know, even increase enrollment.

1300
01:57:49,100 --> 01:57:53,100
I feel very passionately that we need to maintain DLI.

1301
01:57:53,100 --> 01:57:59,100
And the reason that when in these previous discussions that we've had talked about like, okay, we need to take a moment

1302
01:57:59,100 --> 01:58:02,100
and reshape some things, right, to kind of figure out staffing.

1303
01:58:02,100 --> 01:58:07,100
That was all in the interest of preserving the DLI program.

1304
01:58:07,100 --> 01:58:16,100
So, I was a little startled to see language about cutting DLI or recategorizing it into an ESL position.

1305
01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:23,100
So, that's something that I really don't want to touch and it makes me, and I've asked a couple times already.

1306
01:58:23,100 --> 01:58:29,100
I'd really like for us to revisit our discussion at a different meeting about DLI and what that looks like.

1307
01:58:29,100 --> 01:58:34,100
Once we get to a point where we have a better understanding more clearly

1308
01:58:34,100 --> 01:58:37,100
about what our budget will look like this next year.

1309
01:58:37,100 --> 01:58:45,100
I mean, DLI, that was a decision made by the board earlier when the recommendation was that we needed to come up with a plan

1310
01:58:45,100 --> 01:58:51,100
that would, you know, be, that we could sustain for three years so that when we have that in there,

1311
01:58:51,100 --> 01:58:55,100
that was based on a decision the board had made at an earlier meeting.

1312
01:58:55,100 --> 01:58:58,100
I'm just going to interrupt this because we need to thank you so much, Mr. Johnson.

1313
01:58:58,100 --> 01:59:00,100
We need to take a motion to esteem the meeting.

1314
01:59:00,100 --> 01:59:09,100
Yes, and as Dr. Anderson pointed out last time, this is in policy, so at eight o'clock to keep the board

1315
01:59:09,100 --> 01:59:19,100
and everybody cognizant of the time and the time of our staff members who are here and this is their hours.

1316
01:59:19,100 --> 01:59:27,100
So this we are using their time and this could be considered inefficient work time that they're here.

1317
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:32,100
That I do continue to ask that we keep this policy going.

1318
01:59:32,100 --> 01:59:40,100
If a board member would like, I would entertain a motion that we extend the meeting until ten o'clock.

1319
01:59:40,100 --> 01:59:42,100
So second.

1320
01:59:42,100 --> 01:59:43,100
Okay.

1321
01:59:43,100 --> 01:59:44,100
Yeah.

1322
01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:45,100
Object.

1323
01:59:45,100 --> 01:59:46,100
Motion.

1324
01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:53,100
Motion by Bill Johnson to extend the meeting until ten p.m.

1325
01:59:53,100 --> 01:59:56,100
Seconded by Joanne Roo.

1326
01:59:56,100 --> 01:59:59,100
Any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor?

1327
01:59:59,100 --> 02:00:00,100
Aye.

1328
02:00:00,100 --> 02:00:01,100
Aye.

1329
02:00:01,100 --> 02:00:02,100
Aye.

1330
02:00:02,100 --> 02:00:03,100
Any opposed?

1331
02:00:03,100 --> 02:00:05,100
Motion carries unanimously.

1332
02:00:05,100 --> 02:00:07,100
Thank you so much, everybody.

1333
02:00:07,100 --> 02:00:09,100
And then I thank you, Bill, for pointing that out.

1334
02:00:10,100 --> 02:00:17,100
So we don't need to, I understand that that was a board directed thing and it was in the interest of maintaining and sustaining a program.

1335
02:00:17,100 --> 02:00:18,100
That's the gist of it.

1336
02:00:18,100 --> 02:00:19,100
We don't need to, you know, get into it.

1337
02:00:19,100 --> 02:00:25,100
And I think, you know, for the record, I think you've done an outstanding job fighting for, you know, staff and changes.

1338
02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:29,100
I'm excited to hear at a later time how that's going.

1339
02:00:29,100 --> 02:00:30,100
It's been good.

1340
02:00:30,100 --> 02:00:32,100
I mean, we're in a bad situation, right?

1341
02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:37,100
I just, because we're talking about the budget and because it's an item C, or sorry, an option C,

1342
02:00:38,100 --> 02:00:42,100
I'm really not interested in messing further with DLI right now.

1343
02:00:42,100 --> 02:00:47,100
And if anything, I think, which segues actually into a couple of just points of feedback, if it's okay.

1344
02:00:47,100 --> 02:00:54,100
In the spirit of sort of what I think Tom was saying, we definitely want to open up our imaginations.

1345
02:00:54,100 --> 02:00:55,100
I think this is a fan.

1346
02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:57,100
I like option C a lot overall.

1347
02:00:57,100 --> 02:01:00,100
I think it's in the right spirit of where we want to go.

1348
02:01:00,100 --> 02:01:04,100
Like you said, we're going to, we'll kind of tweak and, you know, clean things up.

1349
02:01:05,100 --> 02:01:07,100
I have other word, but we're still have feedback to share.

1350
02:01:07,100 --> 02:01:14,100
So a couple things that I considered was to bring up is in order, you know, in the interest of preserving DLI,

1351
02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:24,100
have we considered, you know, looking at Cunningham, it is, it's a building that was sort of retrofitted to,

1352
02:01:24,100 --> 02:01:27,100
it was used as a four through eight and I don't, I'm not the facilities expert.

1353
02:01:27,100 --> 02:01:29,100
So this might be a really terrible idea.

1354
02:01:29,100 --> 02:01:30,100
I don't know.

1355
02:01:30,100 --> 02:01:38,100
But, you know, if we could do like a DLI magnet school situation where we have the continuous like elementary through eighth grade,

1356
02:01:38,100 --> 02:01:42,100
DLI offerings there, I don't know if that's in it, probably not for next year.

1357
02:01:42,100 --> 02:01:47,100
But if that's something that we could maybe put into orbit as a thought.

1358
02:01:47,100 --> 02:01:50,100
DLI is like a huge straw for the district.

1359
02:01:50,100 --> 02:01:52,100
Yeah, all three of my children are in DLI.

1360
02:01:52,100 --> 02:01:59,100
I am so thankful for the benefits that they've received and it's not, not just, you know, I mean, it's helped my child

1361
02:01:59,100 --> 02:02:04,100
who deeply struggles with reading is like two years in a row now reading and doing math at grade level

1362
02:02:04,100 --> 02:02:06,100
and in the DLI program.

1363
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:13,100
It is just like we've heard in public comment, phenomenally benefit, a beneficial and it's something that I really want us to keep.

1364
02:02:13,100 --> 02:02:16,100
I also understand that we're in the situation that we're in.

1365
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:22,100
So being creative about our buildings and kind of like, you know, what he was saying earlier about the configuration is something to think about.

1366
02:02:23,100 --> 02:02:29,100
Another piece of feedback I'd like to give in addition to being creative about how we preserve DLI, which would be our first one.

1367
02:02:29,100 --> 02:02:32,100
My second piece of feedback would be staff retention.

1368
02:02:32,100 --> 02:02:34,100
It includes teacher agency.

1369
02:02:34,100 --> 02:02:36,100
I think like the CPI increase is fantastic.

1370
02:02:36,100 --> 02:02:38,100
The launch of it increases fantastic.

1371
02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:44,100
You know, this whole situation again with DLI that we've been hearing about like with Hackett and not letting teachers like,

1372
02:02:44,100 --> 02:02:46,100
you know, hey, we've got a system that's working for us.

1373
02:02:46,100 --> 02:02:47,100
It's producing results.

1374
02:02:47,100 --> 02:02:58,100
You know, things are going well, but there's decisions being made that take away their voice and being able to do their jobs the way that data supports is going well.

1375
02:02:58,100 --> 02:03:01,100
I think that's something we need to consider when we think about staff retention.

1376
02:03:01,100 --> 02:03:06,100
I would much, much rather spend money on our teachers than on hiring new ones.

1377
02:03:06,100 --> 02:03:10,100
So, you know, there's a lot to be said for institutional knowledge and expertise.

1378
02:03:11,100 --> 02:03:18,100
A third piece of feedback that I have would be just for the, again, for the building reorganization at all costs.

1379
02:03:18,100 --> 02:03:24,100
And I know this might not be totally realistic, but at all costs I would like to preserve our neighborhood elementary schools.

1380
02:03:24,100 --> 02:03:38,100
I think that there's a lot more that elementary schools particularly in neighborhoods offer to our students and families than just the, and I shouldn't say just because it's its own thing.

1381
02:03:38,100 --> 02:03:42,100
Beyond just the K-12 public education that they offer.

1382
02:03:42,100 --> 02:03:48,100
I would like to also, again, bring back to kind of what time was saying, consider Cunningham's potential.

1383
02:03:48,100 --> 02:03:56,100
Whether it's some kind of like, you know, specialized, you know, K-84, K-8 program type piece.

1384
02:03:57,100 --> 02:04:11,100
Or, like, do we keep our, like, even start and, you know, keep even start there as well as, like, repurpose Cunningham back to being a middle school, like a sixth through weight.

1385
02:04:11,100 --> 02:04:18,100
And then, do we make frozen, like, the all debt across grade levels since we were considering doing an elementary school, all debt piece?

1386
02:04:19,100 --> 02:04:21,100
I mean, kids, I have no, I think, frozen's a grade school.

1387
02:04:21,100 --> 02:04:24,100
I've been really happy my daughter's about to graduate in one of the high school for math grade.

1388
02:04:24,100 --> 02:04:26,100
I got a sixth grader going in.

1389
02:04:26,100 --> 02:04:30,100
Nothing bad to say from my perspective about frozen as a parent.

1390
02:04:30,100 --> 02:04:35,100
I think, like, it's facility-wise makes the most sense.

1391
02:04:35,100 --> 02:04:40,100
If we're going to do alternative education, which includes, like, flexibility and schedules and transportation, all those things.

1392
02:04:40,100 --> 02:04:47,100
Localizing in one place that is already suited to be elementary up through higher grades makes sense to me.

1393
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:51,100
It's just a suggestion, but, like, times like I didn't do, like, deep research on that.

1394
02:04:51,100 --> 02:05:01,100
So, in conclusion, in the spirit of, like, how do we build this around a vision for what we want to do best for kids, which, you know, we're all on the same page about wanting to do.

1395
02:05:01,100 --> 02:05:12,100
Going forward, I would love to see, again, the greatest extent possible, like, a five-year, three to five-year enrollment projection, just so we can kind of figure out what that new normal looks like.

1396
02:05:13,100 --> 02:05:15,100
You've already given us some really good numbers.

1397
02:05:15,100 --> 02:05:21,100
I think just refining that to, like, three, if we could do five years, that would be ideal, so that we can be a little bit more specific.

1398
02:05:21,100 --> 02:05:34,100
I'd like to see a referendum draft that sort of answers that question, like, what does optimal funding look like for that new normal enrollment number, which, like, what does it mean to get our facilities in a much more acceptable state?

1399
02:05:35,100 --> 02:05:40,100
What is it, what would a referendum question that fully funded that vision for that declined enrollment number, right?

1400
02:05:40,100 --> 02:05:43,100
What would that look like?

1401
02:05:43,100 --> 02:05:47,100
I'd love to hear a little bit more about other potential partnerships for Fund 80.

1402
02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:49,100
Like, I know community action comes to mind.

1403
02:05:49,100 --> 02:05:54,100
We already do a lot of partnerships with them, thinking about things like Fresh Start, other programs that have come and gone.

1404
02:05:54,100 --> 02:05:57,100
I'd love to see maybe an update on that one that makes sense.

1405
02:05:58,100 --> 02:06:03,100
And then, yeah, actually, that's, and I think I'd already mentioned the Chromebook piece.

1406
02:06:03,100 --> 02:06:07,100
I'm totally in favor of eliminating one-to-one for elementary school.

1407
02:06:07,100 --> 02:06:13,100
I mean, as soon as possible, if we're able to, and I don't know if we can sell some of those or something.

1408
02:06:13,100 --> 02:06:24,100
And I'd love to see that based on what building principals and teachers have to say, like, phased out with the middle schools and going back to classrooms, like carts or classroom sets.

1409
02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:27,100
Got my notes.

1410
02:06:27,100 --> 02:06:28,100
Thank you.

1411
02:06:28,100 --> 02:06:30,100
Oh, Jillian Ru.

1412
02:06:30,100 --> 02:06:33,100
Yes, thank you.

1413
02:06:33,100 --> 02:06:45,100
So, okay, looking at the three options, there's huge differences in the Colac cuts for each of them.

1414
02:06:46,100 --> 02:06:51,100
And a lot of these are brand new reductions, I believe.

1415
02:06:51,100 --> 02:06:54,100
I don't remember seeing a bunch of this.

1416
02:06:54,100 --> 02:07:13,100
So, like, what does it look like if we reduce the Director of Finance, Director of Careers, Director of Health, Executive Director, TLE, what does that look like?

1417
02:07:13,100 --> 02:07:16,100
Who's doing those things then?

1418
02:07:16,100 --> 02:07:21,100
Right, Director of Finance is that that was Stephanie's position.

1419
02:07:21,100 --> 02:07:24,100
She's been doing interim, she's been doing both roles.

1420
02:07:24,100 --> 02:07:36,100
So, in fact, in a few minutes, I hope, or at least later on tonight, whichever comes last, is that we are recommending Stephanie to be in that position.

1421
02:07:36,100 --> 02:07:40,100
We then eliminate her current position.

1422
02:07:40,100 --> 02:07:44,100
We are looking to hire someone in accounting to help with that.

1423
02:07:44,100 --> 02:07:54,100
If we lose, if you look at A and B, it does talk about losing one of the secretaries, one of my secretaries.

1424
02:07:54,100 --> 02:08:04,100
If that happens, I mean, one of my secretaries deals a lot with the open records requests.

1425
02:08:04,100 --> 02:08:10,100
I mean, it truly is a full-time job, and the bottom line is, I don't know who will do that.

1426
02:08:10,100 --> 02:08:20,100
I can't simply say that the one secretary can do both, but so that we would have to take a look at what's no longer going to be done.

1427
02:08:20,100 --> 02:08:31,100
If we take a look at Director of Alternative Education, there are simply things that are not going to be done.

1428
02:08:31,100 --> 02:08:41,100
I mean, that individual deals a lot with career and tech, which is one of our strong points at the high school.

1429
02:08:41,100 --> 02:08:46,100
There would mean certain grants that he works on right now that bring in money.

1430
02:08:46,100 --> 02:08:49,100
There may not be anybody to do that to bring in the money.

1431
02:08:49,100 --> 02:08:53,100
There are simply going to be things that are not going to be done.

1432
02:08:53,100 --> 02:09:04,100
We knew that every cut would be painful. That's why I have advocated for number C, where it keeps those individuals and gives us a chance to look at potential referendum.

1433
02:09:04,100 --> 02:09:16,100
But, I mean, he deals a lot to program, one that the most common with his CT, if we did, got away with the person who coordinates steam.

1434
02:09:16,100 --> 02:09:22,100
That's the person who goes in to help with the academic achievement, works with other coaches.

1435
02:09:22,100 --> 02:09:28,100
It just means that there's one less body that's going to be able to help direct that.

1436
02:09:28,100 --> 02:09:39,100
If we take away the Director of Nursing Services, that just means that the person who currently coordinates our Medicare and our nursing nurses and our health and resistance.

1437
02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:47,100
That position would be eliminated and we would have to find how could we maybe disperse those duties to nurses.

1438
02:09:47,100 --> 02:09:50,100
I don't have an easy answer for who's going to do the work.

1439
02:09:50,100 --> 02:10:00,100
I'm going to have to tell you that your regards to cuts, there are things that we will have to determine what will no longer be done because you're just not the manpower to do it.

1440
02:10:00,100 --> 02:10:07,100
Okay, and then the Executive Director of TLE, so that one is eliminated in all three of them.

1441
02:10:07,100 --> 02:10:11,100
That is because that position is now the assistant superintendent.

1442
02:10:12,100 --> 02:10:15,100
Okay, so it's not actually, it's just already gone.

1443
02:10:15,100 --> 02:10:19,100
Okay, thank you. I was really confused by that.

1444
02:10:19,100 --> 02:10:33,100
Okay, so then my second question is, so imagine math is listed under curriculum or things that we use in our schools.

1445
02:10:34,100 --> 02:10:46,100
So three that have been mentioned, the NGL school pace and seven mindsets have been mentioned by staff members.

1446
02:10:46,100 --> 02:10:58,100
How, well, one, I can't find anywhere where NGL, how much that costs, our district annually, is seven mindsets?

1447
02:10:59,100 --> 02:11:04,100
Is that an annual cost of $115,000?

1448
02:11:04,100 --> 02:11:10,100
And so, I mean, because we're looking at every dollar again.

1449
02:11:10,100 --> 02:11:16,100
So those are three other things that people mentioned where we could make reductions.

1450
02:11:16,100 --> 02:11:19,100
I have an answer from assistance from my cabinet.

1451
02:11:19,100 --> 02:11:26,100
Maybe can speak more succinctly to this.

1452
02:11:27,100 --> 02:11:29,100
Anyone?

1453
02:11:39,100 --> 02:11:43,100
So, like every other year or every three years.

1454
02:11:43,100 --> 02:11:46,100
So it's $115,000 for three years?

1455
02:11:46,100 --> 02:11:49,100
No, but I will get you that class.

1456
02:11:49,100 --> 02:11:50,100
Okay.

1457
02:11:50,100 --> 02:11:52,100
Okay, thanks.

1458
02:11:52,100 --> 02:11:57,100
The four end jail contract for next year is $29,000.

1459
02:11:57,100 --> 02:12:01,100
I think it's right around $30,000 mark.

1460
02:12:01,100 --> 02:12:06,100
There's a couple of different break down, but this past year was just under 25.

1461
02:12:06,100 --> 02:12:09,100
We took something off and we looked at adding some back.

1462
02:12:09,100 --> 02:12:11,100
So it's right around $30,000 for the year.

1463
02:12:11,100 --> 02:12:13,100
That is an annual contract.

1464
02:12:13,100 --> 02:12:20,100
And then is it possible for us to, again, this is, these are people

1465
02:12:20,100 --> 02:12:23,100
emailing and asking about these things.

1466
02:12:23,100 --> 02:12:28,100
I'm hearing a lot of people saying they don't understand what we are getting in return

1467
02:12:28,100 --> 02:12:30,100
for that investment.

1468
02:12:30,100 --> 02:12:37,100
And so if we could have information about what we're getting for the amount we're paying.

1469
02:12:37,100 --> 02:12:40,100
Yeah, we're going to say from here.

1470
02:12:40,100 --> 02:12:42,100
I don't care.

1471
02:12:42,100 --> 02:12:43,100
Yeah.

1472
02:12:43,100 --> 02:12:49,100
So what that does is we, it provides, we have monthly meetings with our support code

1473
02:12:49,100 --> 02:12:50,100
into it.

1474
02:12:50,100 --> 02:12:54,100
It provides some trainings, links to trainings that we can do.

1475
02:12:54,100 --> 02:12:55,100
We get resources from them.

1476
02:12:55,100 --> 02:12:57,100
We pay for extra professional development.

1477
02:12:57,100 --> 02:12:59,100
I pay for some of those out of my grants.

1478
02:12:59,100 --> 02:13:07,100
For us, we get our buy, our yearly visit and then reflection and feedback for us.

1479
02:13:07,100 --> 02:13:11,100
So, again, it's helpful to provide our structure as we get to the implementation stage.

1480
02:13:11,100 --> 02:13:18,100
Again, I ask, could we absolutely do it without our position where we're to the final stage

1481
02:13:18,100 --> 02:13:23,100
of academies and let Ms. Hells join in a little bit?

1482
02:13:23,100 --> 02:13:26,100
Yes, I would say we absolutely carefully had to.

1483
02:13:26,100 --> 02:13:29,100
I do believe that the services we get for that cost, we have brought it down.

1484
02:13:29,100 --> 02:13:32,100
It was in the $60,000 and $70,000 range.

1485
02:13:32,100 --> 02:13:41,100
And we brought this down to, again, roughly around $30,000.

1486
02:13:41,100 --> 02:13:42,100
Thank you.

1487
02:13:42,100 --> 02:13:45,100
Any other questions, Mrs. Ruben?

1488
02:13:46,100 --> 02:13:49,100
Carol Pucks.

1489
02:13:49,100 --> 02:13:54,100
Okay, I have a bunch of comments and questions on my own.

1490
02:13:54,100 --> 02:14:00,100
I am really not a fan of Plan C, not because it's not a good plan, but because it doesn't

1491
02:14:00,100 --> 02:14:02,100
do enough.

1492
02:14:02,100 --> 02:14:06,100
And I think if you asked us how much OPEP money do you think we should be using?

1493
02:14:06,100 --> 02:14:12,100
And I think given the fact that our fund balance is so low, we need to use as little as possible

1494
02:14:12,100 --> 02:14:13,100
at this point.

1495
02:14:14,100 --> 02:14:18,100
So I think we need to be more aggressive than Plan C.

1496
02:14:18,100 --> 02:14:26,100
And when I look at it, I do see some Title I positions in the AGR, not maybe AGR, but

1497
02:14:26,100 --> 02:14:29,100
Title I positions that doesn't really save us any money.

1498
02:14:29,100 --> 02:14:34,100
So the question is how are we using our grant money and all those kinds of things to help

1499
02:14:34,100 --> 02:14:35,100
us?

1500
02:14:35,100 --> 02:14:42,100
I have an option D because I do think we need to move BLA to the high school.

1501
02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:49,100
If you look at that capacity enrollment, we're under utilizing Cunningham by 794 students,

1502
02:14:49,100 --> 02:14:53,100
and we're under utilizing the high school by 1,300 some students.

1503
02:14:53,100 --> 02:14:58,100
So we're really under utilizing our buildings, and we need to do something different about

1504
02:14:58,100 --> 02:15:02,100
how we're going to use our buildings.

1505
02:15:02,100 --> 02:15:08,100
You know, we can leave Cunningham on occupied for a year until your committee decides how

1506
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:14,100
we're going to, how we want to use our buildings, but we could at least save some costs on some

1507
02:15:14,100 --> 02:15:19,100
heating and air conditioning and some other kinds of things.

1508
02:15:19,100 --> 02:15:22,100
I think we can do that too because of their older kids.

1509
02:15:22,100 --> 02:15:25,100
Those kids don't need transportation, those kinds of things.

1510
02:15:25,100 --> 02:15:27,100
I really like the idea of an early childhood center.

1511
02:15:27,100 --> 02:15:32,100
I think we need to approach that, but I think at this time of year we haven't approached

1512
02:15:32,100 --> 02:15:33,100
transportation.

1513
02:15:33,100 --> 02:15:36,100
We don't know how that would work.

1514
02:15:36,100 --> 02:15:41,100
It would be moving lots of people around, which is something that we're going to be doing next year.

1515
02:15:41,100 --> 02:15:48,100
So I think moving BLA and getting that piece taken care of, because I think at some point

1516
02:15:48,100 --> 02:15:50,100
that's going to have to happen, right?

1517
02:15:50,100 --> 02:15:54,100
Whether we do it this year, we do it next year, it's going to have to happen.

1518
02:15:54,100 --> 02:16:00,100
You know, we're going to be needing to use Cunningham for other things, so we're going to need to sell it.

1519
02:16:00,100 --> 02:16:05,100
So we might as well bite the bullet, and if we're going to think about moving early childhood

1520
02:16:05,100 --> 02:16:07,100
to Merrill, even start can go to Merrill.

1521
02:16:07,100 --> 02:16:11,100
Now, I don't think there's a problem with doing that.

1522
02:16:11,100 --> 02:16:17,100
I think we need to re-look at what's going on at Colac seriously.

1523
02:16:17,100 --> 02:16:22,100
You know, we talk about combining positions and doing other kinds of things other places,

1524
02:16:22,100 --> 02:16:26,100
but we're not really talking about combining positions and doing things differently at Colac,

1525
02:16:26,100 --> 02:16:28,100
and I think we can.

1526
02:16:28,100 --> 02:16:34,100
And I think, you know, one of our goals was to have the services as close to the students as possible.

1527
02:16:34,100 --> 02:16:41,100
You know, having some of these directors is nice, but that doesn't get us to the students,

1528
02:16:41,100 --> 02:16:45,100
and some of that could be totally redone.

1529
02:16:45,100 --> 02:16:51,100
I mean, I look at, you know, one of the ideas was a combination of an assistant principal

1530
02:16:51,100 --> 02:16:54,100
and an athletic director.

1531
02:16:54,100 --> 02:17:00,100
How about a combination of a CTE person and an athletic director and put them at the high school?

1532
02:17:00,100 --> 02:17:04,100
So we don't totally lose the CTE, but they're at the high school where they belong,

1533
02:17:04,100 --> 02:17:05,100
and they can do some other things.

1534
02:17:05,100 --> 02:17:10,100
I mean, we need to start thinking more creatively about how we use our positions.

1535
02:17:10,100 --> 02:17:17,100
We are, you know, we're approaching a 4,000 school district, and if we lose more,

1536
02:17:17,100 --> 02:17:21,100
we're going to be less than that, and we have to think much smaller.

1537
02:17:21,100 --> 02:17:29,100
I looked up some other 4,000 student districts around, and, you know, they have three elementary schools,

1538
02:17:29,100 --> 02:17:33,100
a middle school and a high school and a very minimal central office.

1539
02:17:33,100 --> 02:17:38,100
And, you know, we got to start thinking that way, because that's kind of what we're going to look like.

1540
02:17:38,100 --> 02:17:45,100
We can look at increasing our enrollment, and we certainly need to look at increasing our enrollment

1541
02:17:45,100 --> 02:17:49,100
and keeping students, keeping with them as much as possible.

1542
02:17:49,100 --> 02:17:53,100
But it's going to be very hard to compete with what's up on the hill.

1543
02:17:53,100 --> 02:17:58,100
So we can pretty much guarantee we're going to lose quite a lot of students up there,

1544
02:17:58,100 --> 02:18:01,100
and we're going to work too hard to keep the ones we can,

1545
02:18:01,100 --> 02:18:05,100
but that competition is very difficult for us at the moment.

1546
02:18:05,100 --> 02:18:07,100
So we got to face some realities.

1547
02:18:07,100 --> 02:18:12,100
I heard you say last week, you know, we have to do pain now or pain later,

1548
02:18:12,100 --> 02:18:16,100
and if we don't do the pain now, the pain later is going to be harder.

1549
02:18:16,100 --> 02:18:23,100
And it's just like, you know, you were not in favor of using OPEB,

1550
02:18:23,100 --> 02:18:25,100
and some of those kinds of things.

1551
02:18:25,100 --> 02:18:28,100
I think we need to come to grips with that.

1552
02:18:28,100 --> 02:18:33,100
And I think we need to use a minimal amount of OPEB money.

1553
02:18:33,100 --> 02:18:37,100
So we're looking at either option D or option A, right?

1554
02:18:37,100 --> 02:18:42,100
We got to do something a little bit more aggressive than I don't think

1555
02:18:42,100 --> 02:18:47,100
that's aggressive enough at this point, especially given what we're facing in the future.

1556
02:18:47,100 --> 02:18:51,100
I'm taking those, but what was option D because I don't want them?

1557
02:18:51,100 --> 02:18:58,100
Option D is to kind of do half of B. It would be moving BLA to the high school.

1558
02:18:58,100 --> 02:19:01,100
But we would leave Merrill Elementary,

1559
02:19:01,100 --> 02:19:05,100
and Merrill would still be in elementary school, but even start would be at Merrill.

1560
02:19:05,100 --> 02:19:08,100
But I don't think we can do the early childhood piece,

1561
02:19:08,100 --> 02:19:10,100
much as I'd like to.

1562
02:19:10,100 --> 02:19:14,100
I don't think we can move 4K kids to Merrill and move all the Merrill kids out

1563
02:19:14,100 --> 02:19:16,100
between now and August.

1564
02:19:16,100 --> 02:19:19,100
I just don't think that's a doable piece.

1565
02:19:19,100 --> 02:19:25,100
I think we can do the BLA piece, and, you know, if it doesn't quite happen,

1566
02:19:25,100 --> 02:19:29,100
you know, I mean, you can move the kids, and if you don't have all the stuff moved

1567
02:19:29,100 --> 02:19:33,100
by August or September, we can continue to work on that.

1568
02:19:33,100 --> 02:19:35,100
I think that's a more doable piece.

1569
02:19:35,100 --> 02:19:37,100
It's not a lovely option.

1570
02:19:37,100 --> 02:19:38,100
Nobody likes it.

1571
02:19:38,100 --> 02:19:43,100
But, you know, we've got to start being a little bit more aggressive.

1572
02:19:43,100 --> 02:19:44,100
All right.

1573
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:46,100
I just wanted to clarify.

1574
02:19:46,100 --> 02:19:47,100
Thank you, Terrell.

1575
02:19:47,100 --> 02:19:52,100
And none of these are lovely options.

1576
02:19:52,100 --> 02:19:53,100
Yeah.

1577
02:19:53,100 --> 02:19:55,100
But it is the reality.

1578
02:19:55,100 --> 02:19:56,100
Dan Shoe?

1579
02:19:56,100 --> 02:19:58,100
Thank you, Madam Chair.

1580
02:19:58,100 --> 02:19:59,100
Thank you, Dr. Anderson.

1581
02:19:59,100 --> 02:20:03,100
I appreciate your recommendation for, and putting forward option C.

1582
02:20:03,100 --> 02:20:08,100
That's, you know, if we had to vote on something, that would be the one I would support.

1583
02:20:08,100 --> 02:20:10,100
I wouldn't support going farther.

1584
02:20:10,100 --> 02:20:15,100
As I mentioned last week, I really appreciate these committees that you're suggesting,

1585
02:20:15,100 --> 02:20:19,100
and I agree completely that they interact with each other.

1586
02:20:19,100 --> 02:20:22,100
We have to decide what the community wants our schools to be.

1587
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:26,100
We have to have a conversation with more than the people at this table or in this room,

1588
02:20:26,100 --> 02:20:27,100
but deeper.

1589
02:20:27,100 --> 02:20:31,100
And so these committees that you get at the core issues.

1590
02:20:31,100 --> 02:20:38,100
We're going to then, once those committees help decide what this community wants for their

1591
02:20:38,100 --> 02:20:41,100
schools, what kind of schools do we want here in Valoit?

1592
02:20:41,100 --> 02:20:42,100
What will that cost?

1593
02:20:42,100 --> 02:20:44,100
And, you know, how do we fund it?

1594
02:20:44,100 --> 02:20:47,100
Is it something that can go to a referendum or some other means?

1595
02:20:47,100 --> 02:20:51,100
But the key thing for this table here and for the people in this room,

1596
02:20:51,100 --> 02:20:55,100
and all the people that work for us is when do we shift to a growth mode?

1597
02:20:55,100 --> 02:20:59,100
The work that has been done has been a lot of work, but my colleagues,

1598
02:20:59,100 --> 02:21:04,100
I just got here two weeks ago, but there's been a lot of work here to make pretty

1599
02:21:04,100 --> 02:21:07,100
dramatic changes in how we run the schools.

1600
02:21:07,100 --> 02:21:13,100
We're later today going to hire a search firm or get closer to hiring a search firm

1601
02:21:13,100 --> 02:21:16,100
to hire a permanent replacement, a really key decision.

1602
02:21:16,100 --> 02:21:21,100
But this may be the summer that we need to shift to the growth mode.

1603
02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:28,100
That's the toughest decision a big organization will ever face is when you move

1604
02:21:28,100 --> 02:21:33,100
from cutting expenses to shifting to growth.

1605
02:21:33,100 --> 02:21:41,100
And option C preserves the vast majority, nearly all of our staff.

1606
02:21:41,100 --> 02:21:46,100
Maybe not in perfect ways, but we'll have to tweak around the edges on that.

1607
02:21:46,100 --> 02:21:51,100
But I'm in favor of getting those questions answered as quickly as possible

1608
02:21:51,100 --> 02:21:57,100
to use the resources we have, including OPEB and other things,

1609
02:21:57,100 --> 02:22:03,100
and possible referendums to make this the summer that we shift to this future plan

1610
02:22:03,100 --> 02:22:10,100
and put together three and five year plans we've talked about to really deliver

1611
02:22:10,100 --> 02:22:13,100
that school district, that this wonderful community deserves.

1612
02:22:13,100 --> 02:22:16,100
So thank you.

1613
02:22:16,100 --> 02:22:19,100
Thank you, Mr. Shuf.

1614
02:22:19,100 --> 02:22:21,100
Bill Johnson.

1615
02:22:21,100 --> 02:22:22,100
Yes.

1616
02:22:22,100 --> 02:22:28,100
Being kind of a sports guy, I don't see what the drawback would be of putting,

1617
02:22:28,100 --> 02:22:33,100
opening up the district to fund 80 money for kids to come and play sports.

1618
02:22:33,100 --> 02:22:38,100
I mean, maybe we can get some of them to stay in school here and

1619
02:22:38,100 --> 02:22:39,100
I just think that's good.

1620
02:22:39,100 --> 02:22:46,100
And the other question I have is, is there a reason why we have so many open enrollment requests?

1621
02:22:46,100 --> 02:22:50,100
You mean, are you talking about open enrollment or open records requests?

1622
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:53,100
Open records, I'm sorry.

1623
02:22:53,100 --> 02:22:58,100
Is there something we're doing wrong that they keep?

1624
02:22:58,100 --> 02:23:00,100
I mean, I don't know that I have a good answer.

1625
02:23:00,100 --> 02:23:05,100
I mean, I'll give you, I'll give you my thoughts, which doesn't make any more than that.

1626
02:23:05,100 --> 02:23:13,100
I think that there is, there's been maybe a lack of trust of what is transparency.

1627
02:23:13,100 --> 02:23:16,100
There's what people perceive as transparency in the district.

1628
02:23:16,100 --> 02:23:26,100
So they want to find records to, to find out is what we told someone, is that true or not true?

1629
02:23:26,100 --> 02:23:34,100
Now, that's just in reading all the records that come across, because I see every record request that comes.

1630
02:23:34,100 --> 02:23:42,100
I would, that is what my assumption is, but that, I don't know that that's factual,

1631
02:23:42,100 --> 02:23:49,100
but I think it's people have, people just want to question whatever is being told them.

1632
02:23:49,100 --> 02:23:59,100
And one way they can do that is by asking for records to, for us to prove, yes, that is truly what we told you that happened.

1633
02:23:59,100 --> 02:24:04,100
Here are the records that prove that what we told you is true.

1634
02:24:04,100 --> 02:24:08,100
Thank you.

1635
02:24:08,100 --> 02:24:14,100
Thank you. Thank you, Bill.

1636
02:24:14,100 --> 02:24:23,100
I was really hoping that we would come up with some concrete actions for you tonight, Dr. Anderson.

1637
02:24:23,100 --> 02:24:35,100
I know we have staff members that are on pins and needles, and I would like to give them peace of mind to know whether or not they should be looking for another job right now,

1638
02:24:35,100 --> 02:24:41,100
because now is the time for educators to, to be in the market.

1639
02:24:41,100 --> 02:24:47,100
And it sounds like we're not there yet. We're kind of all over the place.

1640
02:24:47,100 --> 02:24:53,100
None of it doesn't sound like any of us really embrace any one of these options.

1641
02:24:53,100 --> 02:25:01,100
And there sounds like there's some more information that some members would like to have you come back with.

1642
02:25:01,100 --> 02:25:14,100
But ultimately, the question I have is how are we going to improve academics and behaviors while making these cuts?

1643
02:25:14,100 --> 02:25:28,100
Because if we're going to talk about a growth model or why people are leaving the district, it doesn't take, it doesn't take but a couple open records requests of our emails to see what we're hearing about.

1644
02:25:28,100 --> 02:25:34,100
Behaviors and academics, behaviors, behaviors, behaviors.

1645
02:25:34,100 --> 02:25:47,100
And I think we really need to take a different approach to what we are doing in our buildings, and nothing is different in any of these options.

1646
02:25:47,100 --> 02:25:49,100
It's just reduced.

1647
02:25:49,100 --> 02:25:53,100
What are we going to do differently to make these improvements?

1648
02:25:53,100 --> 02:25:57,100
And that's what I have been encouraging the departments.

1649
02:25:57,100 --> 02:26:04,100
Talk to your staff, find out what we can do better, find out what cuts we can make.

1650
02:26:04,100 --> 02:26:10,100
We need strategic ideas so that we can get to a growth model.

1651
02:26:10,100 --> 02:26:18,100
Unfortunately, I love the idea of a growth model budget, but the reality is it's going to be a few years before we get there.

1652
02:26:18,100 --> 02:26:19,100
It really is.

1653
02:26:19,100 --> 02:26:24,100
As long as we are losing students, it's going to be a while before we can start growing.

1654
02:26:24,100 --> 02:26:30,100
And I think we need to address the issues of behaviors.

1655
02:26:30,100 --> 02:26:41,100
In reference to that, I truly believe if you take the deans, I mean you had assistant principals at the elementary schools, you would reduce them the deans.

1656
02:26:41,100 --> 02:26:46,100
Do you take the deans out?

1657
02:26:46,100 --> 02:26:51,100
I think that's a mistake behavior.

1658
02:26:51,100 --> 02:27:01,100
Dr. Anderson, I agree with you, but there are some other positions here in option C that financially don't make sense to me.

1659
02:27:01,100 --> 02:27:16,100
And I want you and the cabinet to understand, before this board decides to go to referendum, there are seven people in this room that have to be confident that we will go to referendum and it will pass.

1660
02:27:16,100 --> 02:27:31,100
And if we are telling our constituents that we are going to preserve positions at Colac, but not positions elsewhere, that's a real hard sell.

1661
02:27:31,100 --> 02:27:42,100
It's a real hard sell to go to this constituency here in Beloit and say we are going to pass a deficit budget, please give us more money.

1662
02:27:42,100 --> 02:27:50,100
Until we have a solid budget that we can get behind and say this makes sense to us.

1663
02:27:50,100 --> 02:28:08,100
It's going to be hard for me personally to convince my husband on a fixed income and my son, a private business owner, that they should be contributing more money to the school district of Beloit if we're not changing anything.

1664
02:28:08,100 --> 02:28:13,100
And I think we need to make some changes.

1665
02:28:13,100 --> 02:28:23,100
I'd like to know what these plans reflect the changes that will bring about better improvement and better academics.

1666
02:28:23,100 --> 02:28:37,100
I think things that we haven't talked about that are kind of the white elephant in the room, our concept of self-contained classrooms and EBD classrooms.

1667
02:28:37,100 --> 02:28:47,100
In 2008, when I was a substitute teacher at Aldridge, we had an EBD self-contained classroom.

1668
02:28:47,100 --> 02:28:55,100
We had self-contained special ed classroom for sixth grade, seventh grade, eighth grade.

1669
02:28:55,100 --> 02:28:58,100
We had the CDS self-contained classroom.

1670
02:28:59,100 --> 02:29:04,100
Five self-contained classrooms for special services for our students.

1671
02:29:04,100 --> 02:29:12,100
I am all for inclusivity. Don't get me wrong. I love the idea of inclusivity. It's not working.

1672
02:29:12,100 --> 02:29:15,100
It's not working the way it was intended.

1673
02:29:15,100 --> 02:29:19,100
Our teachers are not trained to teach special ed.

1674
02:29:19,100 --> 02:29:27,100
Our teachers are not trained to deal with the behaviors of special ed and EBD students or 504 students.

1675
02:29:28,100 --> 02:29:31,100
It's not working for our district.

1676
02:29:31,100 --> 02:29:37,100
And I think that maybe we should also be looking at making some of those changes there.

1677
02:29:37,100 --> 02:29:40,100
Tonight we heard about the AB schedule.

1678
02:29:40,100 --> 02:29:44,100
This isn't the first time I've heard rumblings about an AB schedule.

1679
02:29:44,100 --> 02:29:49,100
How much loss productivity is there with an AB schedule?

1680
02:29:49,100 --> 02:29:54,100
How much loss learning time is there with an AB schedule?

1681
02:29:54,100 --> 02:29:58,100
Maybe we should consider going back to the old model.

1682
02:29:58,100 --> 02:30:07,100
I think we should also put in this budget more, actually more money for janitorial services.

1683
02:30:07,100 --> 02:30:14,100
When I was on the board in 2009, all of our janitorial services were in-house.

1684
02:30:14,100 --> 02:30:17,100
Maybe that's something we should return to.

1685
02:30:17,100 --> 02:30:22,100
I know some of our legal fees even had to do with janitorial services

1686
02:30:22,100 --> 02:30:27,100
and some hubbub that happened a year or two ago.

1687
02:30:27,100 --> 02:30:33,100
Maybe if we have employees in-house, we can retain them and keep them happier

1688
02:30:33,100 --> 02:30:43,100
because then they are reporting right to us and we can work through whatever issues they're having.

1689
02:30:43,100 --> 02:30:54,100
The websites being blocked by IT, I think the world of TC networks and their staff, but even tonight.

1690
02:30:54,100 --> 02:30:57,100
We're having problems with technology.

1691
02:30:57,100 --> 02:31:02,100
I don't know the last time I've been to a board meeting and we've not had issues with technology.

1692
02:31:02,100 --> 02:31:12,100
I hope that we can stop spinning our wheels because we really need to take a very different look at all of this.

1693
02:31:12,100 --> 02:31:24,100
Mr. Holy said at the last meeting, I can't wait until we have a year when we can actually look at academics.

1694
02:31:24,100 --> 02:31:26,100
Oh my goodness, me too.

1695
02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:27,100
Really?

1696
02:31:27,100 --> 02:31:35,100
I think that's what we need to be doing, but our budget is not being- none of these really jump out at me saying,

1697
02:31:35,100 --> 02:31:40,100
hey, I align with the academic goals of the school district of Illinois.

1698
02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:46,100
Right now, our academic goal is get out of the last place.

1699
02:31:46,100 --> 02:31:49,100
Last place.

1700
02:31:49,100 --> 02:31:51,100
I can't remember last time.

1701
02:31:51,100 --> 02:32:00,100
Well, actually I do, but it's been several years when we were not in the bottom 3% of the state.

1702
02:32:00,100 --> 02:32:04,100
The bottom 3%, we are so much better than that.

1703
02:32:04,100 --> 02:32:09,100
I know we are.

1704
02:32:09,100 --> 02:32:15,100
Public comment spoke of the obituary of the school district of Illinois.

1705
02:32:15,100 --> 02:32:19,100
First, not on my watch.

1706
02:32:19,100 --> 02:32:23,100
We're not here to write the obituary of the school district of Illinois.

1707
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:25,100
None of us ran for that.

1708
02:32:25,100 --> 02:32:30,100
We are here to make the school district better as it gets smaller.

1709
02:32:30,100 --> 02:32:33,100
That's the reality we're at.

1710
02:32:33,100 --> 02:32:47,100
Dr. Anderson, I am looking to you for recommendations on how you want to proceed.

1711
02:32:48,100 --> 02:32:55,100
First thing is, I'm taking all of your notes to figure out how my- I mean, here's the difficulty I'm in.

1712
02:32:55,100 --> 02:33:03,100
We are seven board members who have- to your true divergence.

1713
02:33:03,100 --> 02:33:13,100
So I'm trying to figure out where do the- so I mean my thought is, what is the majority of board members going to support?

1714
02:33:13,100 --> 02:33:18,100
Because I don't know that I can bring anything to you that seven people are going to have.

1715
02:33:18,100 --> 02:33:23,100
So I'm trying to take a look at, here are the things you have told me.

1716
02:33:23,100 --> 02:33:26,100
How am I going to put that practice?

1717
02:33:26,100 --> 02:33:29,100
And the answer is, I'm going to make you all upset.

1718
02:33:29,100 --> 02:33:33,100
I mean, this is the bottom line because I- because you are so far apart.

1719
02:33:33,100 --> 02:33:36,100
I mean, I will tell you, it was not a secret.

1720
02:33:36,100 --> 02:33:38,100
I told you that last Thursday.

1721
02:33:38,100 --> 02:33:42,100
I would rather go with options C because of preserving the positions.

1722
02:33:42,100 --> 02:33:43,100
Is it optimal?

1723
02:33:43,100 --> 02:33:44,100
No.

1724
02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:54,100
But what it does is it at least gives employees that have a job, a job, and he gives some time to come up with a longer range solution.

1725
02:33:54,100 --> 02:34:05,100
If that's not acceptable, I have to come up with something that's going to be less than that because, you know, I'm saying you're not going to accept more than that.

1726
02:34:05,100 --> 02:34:16,100
But several of you have said I should look at adding more back to which is going to increase the amount of either cuts in other areas or it's going to increase the use of OPEB.

1727
02:34:16,100 --> 02:34:25,100
So I'm going to sit down with my cabinet and we're going to take a look and see what does this mean to all of us and what can we come up with?

1728
02:34:25,100 --> 02:34:28,100
I'm not going to wait until the next board meeting.

1729
02:34:28,100 --> 02:34:39,100
You know, probably as I get them, I'm going to send them out to you and say, all right, here's option D, not Carol's option D.

1730
02:34:39,100 --> 02:34:48,100
Here's my option D. Tell me, you know, until I can get something because eventually we have to make a decision.

1731
02:34:48,100 --> 02:34:53,100
I will implement whatever it is that you asked me to implement.

1732
02:34:53,100 --> 02:34:54,100
All right.

1733
02:34:54,100 --> 02:35:04,100
I am a strong advocate to retain as many people in district as possible to give me some time to come up with a longer range solution.

1734
02:35:04,100 --> 02:35:08,100
That means you use more OPEB dollars now than you will in the future.

1735
02:35:08,100 --> 02:35:10,100
It's going to lessen it.

1736
02:35:10,100 --> 02:35:15,100
I know that that's not popular with everyone, but the bottom line, it gives some time to determine.

1737
02:35:15,100 --> 02:35:21,100
And the big question with referendum.

1738
02:35:21,100 --> 02:35:24,100
First, a referendum has to be a 7-0 vote.

1739
02:35:24,100 --> 02:35:30,100
If you don't all agree, it doesn't make sense to go because you can't win.

1740
02:35:30,100 --> 02:35:47,100
We now, if we're going to go to referendum in November, we have to have a question done in August, which basically means I have June in July, so I have two and a half months to get the final document or to get a document to you.

1741
02:35:47,100 --> 02:35:49,100
Writing the question is easy.

1742
02:35:49,100 --> 02:35:51,100
I can write the question in 10 minutes.

1743
02:35:51,100 --> 02:35:54,100
What that will contain is what it takes all the time.

1744
02:35:54,100 --> 02:35:57,100
And then we have to make sure we tell people to have discussion.

1745
02:35:57,100 --> 02:36:00,100
If a referendum doesn't pass, what does that mean?

1746
02:36:00,100 --> 02:36:04,100
What are you not going to have in the future?

1747
02:36:04,100 --> 02:36:06,100
Because that is going to be key.

1748
02:36:06,100 --> 02:36:14,100
If a referendum doesn't pass to make sure we tell people, here is what you are not going to have.

1749
02:36:15,100 --> 02:36:22,100
The next item on the agenda, and we can probably commingle them, is the committees.

1750
02:36:22,100 --> 02:36:31,100
And I already have emails ready to go out to the staff to look for volunteers in all the buildings and in all different areas.

1751
02:36:31,100 --> 02:36:35,100
My biggest ask is one of the things you always ask me to get, what can I do for you?

1752
02:36:36,100 --> 02:36:49,100
One of the things I would ask for the board is, what are, give me names of people in the community that you think would be good individuals to put on either one of these committees.

1753
02:36:49,100 --> 02:36:52,100
Because they are not going to be on both because they are too much time.

1754
02:36:52,100 --> 02:36:56,100
But what can they be on so we can have those discussions?

1755
02:36:56,100 --> 02:37:04,100
Because as soon as we get this, one of the other things is I am going to start arranging meetings in every one of the buildings for both staff and parents.

1756
02:37:04,100 --> 02:37:11,100
So we can talk about all these things going forward, especially what will the district look like and how are we going to do.

1757
02:37:11,100 --> 02:37:20,100
So, I mean, the committees will give me input from other people's ideas that I can bring back to you.

1758
02:37:20,100 --> 02:37:24,100
But right now, I mean, where to go in the budget?

1759
02:37:24,100 --> 02:37:31,100
I will see if I can take all these ideas and put them into something.

1760
02:37:32,100 --> 02:37:35,100
And I will send it out to you as quick as I can.

1761
02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:37,100
And they are not secret.

1762
02:37:37,100 --> 02:37:40,100
So as soon as you say, Wayne, you can share this with people.

1763
02:37:40,100 --> 02:37:49,100
I will share it out so that by the time we meet next, we have come up with this close to something that will pass a majority of the board.

1764
02:37:49,100 --> 02:37:53,100
Because I do not think I can bring anything to you that is going to be a 7-0 vote.

1765
02:37:53,100 --> 02:37:55,100
I just don't think so.

1766
02:37:55,100 --> 02:37:59,100
So I am going to have to try to figure out what is the majority?

1767
02:37:59,100 --> 02:38:03,100
What can I do to bring it as close to possible?

1768
02:38:03,100 --> 02:38:05,100
But we do have to have a solution.

1769
02:38:05,100 --> 02:38:12,100
As you mentioned, if I have to cut people's jobs, I want to give them as much notice as possible so they can look somewhere else.

1770
02:38:12,100 --> 02:38:15,100
I am doing my best not to do that.

1771
02:38:15,100 --> 02:38:24,100
But if that is the case and that is what we decided to happen, I want to give them as much leave way going forward as feasible.

1772
02:38:24,100 --> 02:38:27,100
So I will take the information you have given.

1773
02:38:27,100 --> 02:38:29,100
I will sit down with my cabinet.

1774
02:38:29,100 --> 02:38:30,100
I will sit down with the principals.

1775
02:38:30,100 --> 02:38:32,100
They will sit down with their staff.

1776
02:38:32,100 --> 02:38:34,100
I am going to staff meeting already tomorrow anyway.

1777
02:38:34,100 --> 02:38:35,100
In fact, a couple.

1778
02:38:35,100 --> 02:38:37,100
I have two staff meetings tomorrow.

1779
02:38:37,100 --> 02:38:46,100
You know, to try to get illicit ideas from staff so that I can bring something to you by next week.

1780
02:38:46,100 --> 02:38:53,100
It will be, you know, we don't have a meeting and maybe we can have a special meeting just to talk about budget again.

1781
02:38:53,100 --> 02:39:06,100
Because it is something that we need to wrap up so that we can get started on next year and then, you know, start working on some of our other big issues.

1782
02:39:06,100 --> 02:39:08,100
So I appreciate all your comments.

1783
02:39:08,100 --> 02:39:21,100
Like I said, the difficulty that I see for us is we have widely divergent opinions and how am I going to put all that together.

1784
02:39:21,100 --> 02:39:26,100
And the answer is, I don't know yet, but I plan on praying a lot tonight.

1785
02:39:26,100 --> 02:39:28,100
Thank you, Dr. Anderson.

1786
02:39:28,100 --> 02:39:38,100
And just to wrap it up, I appreciate your care that you have for our staff and seeing them as individual people.

1787
02:39:38,100 --> 02:39:49,100
As board members, our perspective is a little different because we need to, we have the duty of care and loyalty to the district.

1788
02:39:49,100 --> 02:39:57,100
And so the way I approach it is not to look at it as the person, but as the position.

1789
02:39:57,100 --> 02:40:01,100
What is this position contributing to the district?

1790
02:40:01,100 --> 02:40:06,100
What's the history of this position looking at it and looking at it projecting forward?

1791
02:40:06,100 --> 02:40:11,100
If we keep this position, what's going to happen versus if we cut this position?

1792
02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:13,100
Not the person.

1793
02:40:13,100 --> 02:40:17,100
It's a little bit different than your approach.

1794
02:40:17,100 --> 02:40:19,100
We still care about all of our people.

1795
02:40:19,100 --> 02:40:28,100
We really do, but we have to care about keeping the school district up below a viable entity.

1796
02:40:28,100 --> 02:40:33,100
And how are we going to improve services for our students?

1797
02:40:33,100 --> 02:40:36,100
And lastly, the OPEB.

1798
02:40:36,100 --> 02:40:44,100
One of the reasons I am very reluctant to spend OPEB is because that is an interest bearing account.

1799
02:40:44,100 --> 02:40:50,100
And as you mentioned in March, we have a tale of two budgets.

1800
02:40:50,100 --> 02:40:53,100
This year is the easy year.

1801
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:55,100
This is the easy year.

1802
02:40:55,100 --> 02:41:05,100
I would rather have OPEB earning interest this year so that next year, well, when the proverbial, okay, yeah.

1803
02:41:05,100 --> 02:41:13,100
When we have to make really, really deep cuts that we have that money to fall back on when it's really, really a rainy, rainy day.

1804
02:41:13,100 --> 02:41:16,100
In the end, we're going to work as a team.

1805
02:41:16,100 --> 02:41:21,100
Yeah, I know if you didn't care about all the people, you wouldn't be sitting up there.

1806
02:41:21,100 --> 02:41:22,100
Thank you.

1807
02:41:22,100 --> 02:41:23,100
Can I just jump on that?

1808
02:41:23,100 --> 02:41:30,100
I'm going to jump in because it's, I don't think we don't want to lose these people.

1809
02:41:30,100 --> 02:41:33,100
I think we need, because we need the work and we need the people.

1810
02:41:33,100 --> 02:41:40,100
But with the positions that they're in, probably need to be gone and they have to be transitioned to something else.

1811
02:41:40,100 --> 02:41:44,100
And we have to figure out where they can do the best work and where they can help us.

1812
02:41:44,100 --> 02:41:51,100
I don't know that anybody needs to lose a position, but we need to, or at least their job.

1813
02:41:51,100 --> 02:41:54,100
They may lose their position, but I don't think they need to lose a job.

1814
02:41:54,100 --> 02:42:01,100
And it might, you know, yeah, reality might be a little less pay, but we should be able to find things for them to do.

1815
02:42:01,100 --> 02:42:07,100
And that's one of the reasons why I keep harping on that, you know, what are we doing with things like Title I and some of these grant money?

1816
02:42:07,100 --> 02:42:12,100
You know, can we finagle some of that, move some of those positions in there?

1817
02:42:12,100 --> 02:42:19,100
Or, you know, re-title or do something different, combine things together, other kinds of jobs.

1818
02:42:19,100 --> 02:42:24,100
But I don't want anybody to lose their position either, okay, or a job.

1819
02:42:24,100 --> 02:42:27,100
But it might be a position, not a job.

1820
02:42:27,100 --> 02:42:30,100
Megan Miller?

1821
02:42:30,100 --> 02:42:31,100
Sorry, thanks.

1822
02:42:31,100 --> 02:42:42,100
So just in the spirit of, I really appreciate what you said, word President Johnson, about trying to, you know, get us closer to consensus so people, you know, right off the bat, I think you said, just get some concrete feedback, right?

1823
02:42:42,100 --> 02:43:00,100
So in the spirit of a little bit of consensus building, I guess, if I could ask my colleagues, is anybody opposed to whatever our next iteration looks like, can we maybe see that aligned to like sort of that academics

1824
02:43:00,100 --> 02:43:02,100
and behaviors piece like you said?

1825
02:43:02,100 --> 02:43:03,100
I mean, I agree with you.

1826
02:43:03,100 --> 02:43:04,100
That should be our goal.

1827
02:43:04,100 --> 02:43:10,100
I think it's a bit of a tall ask to say, we've been here for a really long time, and now next year we need a budget that's going to fit.

1828
02:43:10,100 --> 02:43:19,100
But building toward that, I think kind of satisfies what you were saying, Board President Johnson, and what I think Dan was talking about with the growth mentality.

1829
02:43:19,100 --> 02:43:25,100
So I think like capping off, like, here's the next iteration, you know, here's the feedback.

1830
02:43:25,100 --> 02:43:37,100
This is like what we, the moves that we believe will be in service of increasing academics and in service of better, you know, least putting us on track, right, to better address behaviors.

1831
02:43:37,100 --> 02:43:40,100
Is that, does that characterize where we're at?

1832
02:43:40,100 --> 02:43:43,100
I, yeah, I do agree.

1833
02:43:43,100 --> 02:43:54,100
And actually, I'm glad that you mentioned that because if my recollection is correct, did the board come to a consensus about the Dr. Anderson had asked about the hundred thousand.

1834
02:43:54,100 --> 02:44:12,100
An increase for athletics, and we were in unit, I believe a unanimous consensus that no, no, we're not going to increase the athletic departments budget by a hundred thousand.

1835
02:44:12,100 --> 02:44:18,100
They, we need to make reductions, you know, and, and I guess another question I have, which.

1836
02:44:19,100 --> 02:44:25,100
Maybe Miss, Mrs. Elwood could help, help me understand throughout this week.

1837
02:44:25,100 --> 02:44:38,100
If we can put middle school sports in fund 80, why can't we put high school sports in fund 80 that that would be a huge savings to, but just throwing that out there.

1838
02:44:38,100 --> 02:44:44,100
It's been widely accepted putting middle school because of the age of law.

1839
02:44:44,100 --> 02:44:49,100
Schools have tried to put in the high school portions or at least portions of it.

1840
02:44:49,100 --> 02:44:53,100
And it's always been told by the auditors and DPI you can't do that.

1841
02:44:53,100 --> 02:45:06,100
So just, okay, so like it sounds like we're all on the same page about, you know, to help us move forward to get, you know, get us across the line kind of characterizing like this is how we want to reshape or cut or, you know, whatever.

1842
02:45:06,100 --> 02:45:12,100
And this is kind of the vision. And I think that might help move us toward, you know, some, some consensus.

1843
02:45:12,100 --> 02:45:21,100
And then the other thing is, I just want to ask, I guess my colleagues, are we okay asking then for like that enrollment projection.

1844
02:45:21,100 --> 02:45:26,100
And I could catch your pitch three to five year. I don't want to create a burden, but whatever is reasonable.

1845
02:45:26,100 --> 02:45:30,100
And I know there's certain data out there, right, that like, you don't bear does those kinds of stuff.

1846
02:45:30,100 --> 02:45:37,100
Is that something that we all agree that would be helpful for how we can move forward or is anybody against that?

1847
02:45:37,100 --> 02:45:44,100
No, I think that's actually would be very beneficial.

1848
02:45:44,100 --> 02:45:54,100
And I believe Dr. Anderson even has some idea of how much how many numbers will be losing over the next few years to some of the other local schools.

1849
02:45:55,100 --> 02:46:02,100
No, yeah, I have no doubt these. Is there anything else you want us to respond, Megan? Well, yeah, and I guess that I'm done because I was just going to say like as we wrap up.

1850
02:46:02,100 --> 02:46:06,100
I mean, if there's anything else that people think that we can all kind of just that way, you at least have the.

1851
02:46:06,100 --> 02:46:12,100
Here's where we for sure are in agreement might be helpful to the process. That's all I was after.

1852
02:46:13,100 --> 02:46:25,100
Well, I we already gave Dr. Anderson the board guidance and I think just reading through that that says exactly what we what we want.

1853
02:46:25,100 --> 02:46:36,100
We want to keep class class sizes as close to what they are now and we do have a policy of at the high school.

1854
02:46:37,100 --> 02:46:48,100
It's 15 students. The I forget what the averages are for the other the other levels, but there are it is in policy and that's what we should be striving for.

1855
02:46:48,100 --> 02:47:00,100
Now, doesn't mean we'll actually get there. Maybe not, but I do want to make certain that we're doing our best to preserve the learning environment.

1856
02:47:01,100 --> 02:47:15,100
We did look at that with all the options on, you know, on classes at the high school loan Roman classes to the elimination of those.

1857
02:47:15,100 --> 02:47:23,100
You know, what do we have at our elementary school? So it's not that the options you have. We didn't already look at those. We have.

1858
02:47:23,100 --> 02:47:29,100
Thank you. So Mr. Shuf. Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. So.

1859
02:47:30,100 --> 02:47:37,100
I really have a lot of respect for the people the table with me tonight and Tom who's helping a family member.

1860
02:47:37,100 --> 02:47:46,100
So one way to be efficient was I agree with Megan that we these projections are going to be really helpful, but.

1861
02:47:47,100 --> 02:48:07,100
Maybe for Stephanie, say her name, so I don't. So here's this. So one way to be efficient would be the things the board is asking for on enrollment projections and things that Stephanie and people at Baird and stuff can help us project for referendums could be the start of briefing documents for those committees.

1862
02:48:07,100 --> 02:48:20,100
So, you know, like we quickly could get some help with our budget to have some projections or updated, you know, from that enrollment report and then some more how you might model.

1863
02:48:20,100 --> 02:48:28,100
How you might model different options for referendum. We're going to need to brief those committees anyway with those type of documents.

1864
02:48:28,100 --> 02:48:39,100
So maybe we could start on some drafts of those because we have these factors that might tell us this is the year to shift to a different mode.

1865
02:48:39,100 --> 02:48:54,100
OPEB, which could help inform shared costs in that formula. We have a referendum. We have an election that has three times as many voters as an April election and there's another one of those for two and a half years after this.

1866
02:48:54,100 --> 02:49:07,100
So there might be some reasons why we want to do exactly what Madam Chair said, which is focus on academic achievement and the culture and behaviors that are in our buildings.

1867
02:49:07,100 --> 02:49:19,100
All those could be part of that question. What do we want in our school district? And it might help us get to a consensus, a budget consensus and help.

1868
02:49:19,100 --> 02:49:24,100
You're going to need to staff those committees and provide documents to those committees.

1869
02:49:24,100 --> 02:49:32,100
So maybe those type of things could really help. They'd help me as a random board member understand what's possible and would help us with budgets.

1870
02:49:32,100 --> 02:49:36,100
And so that would be my suggestion.

1871
02:49:36,100 --> 02:49:41,100
Thank you, Dan. Any last comments?

1872
02:49:41,100 --> 02:49:51,100
Our next agenda item is committee formations. The purpose of this is to share what's that?

1873
02:49:51,100 --> 02:50:08,100
To share with board the board information regarding the two administrative committees, Dr. Anderson suggested forming for reviewing and working on the 2728 budget as well as a possible referendum and a second committee to look at ways to curtail

1874
02:50:08,100 --> 02:50:14,100
students from leaving the district and how to recruit students to or back to the district.

1875
02:50:14,100 --> 02:50:31,100
And this is policy 262, the administrative committees, the superintendent of schools may establish and appoint committees to study, gather data, research and advice on matters relevant to the district, its operations, goals and policies.

1876
02:50:31,100 --> 02:50:38,100
The creation of such committees and its respective charges shall be reported to the Board of Education.

1877
02:50:38,100 --> 02:50:51,100
The superintendent shall have the authority to recruit and select members of any committee or committees they may establish and to determine the duration of any such committee.

1878
02:50:51,100 --> 02:50:57,100
So Dr. Anderson is not here for board action, but just reporting to us.

1879
02:50:58,100 --> 02:51:05,100
And I think you've already talked about this a couple times, so this will be short, is that I'm looking at creating two committees.

1880
02:51:05,100 --> 02:51:11,100
One, as I said, to look at how can we stabilize our basically our student enrollment?

1881
02:51:11,100 --> 02:51:18,100
Why are people leaving? What is it that we can do so that we can start having a stable student population?

1882
02:51:19,100 --> 02:51:28,100
And the second one is what will we do in 27-28 when we need to take a look at how we can probably move around our staff and use our buildings.

1883
02:51:28,100 --> 02:51:33,100
Both of these are going to discuss about referendum, what people support, etc.

1884
02:51:33,100 --> 02:51:39,100
I will end up putting an email out to the staff looking for volunteers tomorrow.

1885
02:51:39,100 --> 02:51:47,100
One of the things I need from the Board is I have made people that I've already met during my time here that I think would be interested.

1886
02:51:47,100 --> 02:51:55,100
But if there are particular people that you think would be beneficial to serve on either of these committees,

1887
02:51:55,100 --> 02:51:59,100
if you would give me their contact information, I will contact them.

1888
02:51:59,100 --> 02:52:06,100
These committees are going to be open so that anybody who wants to attend can attend.

1889
02:52:06,100 --> 02:52:12,100
I'm not looking at any, they're all going to be open, they're all going to be posted.

1890
02:52:12,100 --> 02:52:21,100
I'm not looking at board members serving the committees, but they'll be posted so board members want to come and hear what's being said and discussed.

1891
02:52:21,100 --> 02:52:30,100
They're going to be welcome to that and then I'll try to give reports every month to the board because I'm looking at these committees.

1892
02:52:30,100 --> 02:52:41,100
The one to be done at least by probably the first semester and the second one to be done maybe a little bit into the second semester.

1893
02:52:41,100 --> 02:52:44,100
So we'll be meeting a regular basis, I'll give you updates.

1894
02:52:44,100 --> 02:52:54,100
But basically, this is a chance to start hearing from ideas from others that may help us in decision-making process.

1895
02:52:56,100 --> 02:53:00,100
Do board members have any questions for Dr. Anderson, Carol Fox?

1896
02:53:01,100 --> 02:53:10,100
I just think a short statement summary of the name of the committee, the purpose of the committee, what you expect to come out of the committee,

1897
02:53:10,100 --> 02:53:20,100
and maybe even a suggested of meetings might help before we reach out to people and say are you interested in serving,

1898
02:53:20,100 --> 02:53:27,100
it might make it easier for us to be able to say this committee would be great.

1899
02:53:27,100 --> 02:53:30,100
Here's a description of the committee, are you interested?

1900
02:53:30,100 --> 02:53:35,100
I can have that done and send to you if not tomorrow, Thursday.

1901
02:53:38,100 --> 02:53:41,100
Any other questions or comments for Dr. Anderson?

1902
02:53:42,100 --> 02:53:43,100
Go ahead.

1903
02:53:43,100 --> 02:53:45,100
Yeah, no, I love that we're doing this.

1904
02:53:45,100 --> 02:53:51,100
I think it's a fantastic idea and I'll be excited to hear more about, I guess, just like the different populations and like,

1905
02:53:51,100 --> 02:53:54,100
you know, what constituencies that are able to participate.

1906
02:53:54,100 --> 02:53:55,100
So thank you.

1907
02:53:58,100 --> 02:53:59,100
Any other?

1908
02:54:00,100 --> 02:54:07,100
Okay, our next agenda item is the superintendent search firm selection.

1909
02:54:07,100 --> 02:54:15,100
The purpose of this is to determine which of the search firms will be selected to conduct the superintendent search with the Board of Education.

1910
02:54:15,100 --> 02:54:20,100
Board members interviewed the Ford firms, WSB, WP and so,

1911
02:54:20,100 --> 02:54:33,100
WBWP and associates school exec connect and hazard young atia and associates on April 27th and May 26th.

1912
02:54:34,100 --> 02:54:49,100
The board then did a, the board secretary sent out a poll of the board members and the poll had the reading of hazard young atia and associates at 2.29.

1913
02:54:49,100 --> 02:54:57,100
School exec connect at 2.0 and BWP and associates at 1.17.

1914
02:54:57,100 --> 02:55:01,100
I will open Dan Shuf.

1915
02:55:01,100 --> 02:55:14,100
Yeah, so we talked a little bit about consensus earlier in the night and I think this is, the poll shows that there's a pretty strong consensus around hazard young and atia and associates.

1916
02:55:14,100 --> 02:55:24,100
I was actually one that rated them number two, but, you know, the vast majority, six of us have said that, you know, that's their one or two choice.

1917
02:55:25,100 --> 02:55:36,100
So I think it's, I'm going to move and I'll look for guidance exactly on what the motions to me, but to get the discussion going, I would move that we select hazard young atia and associates.

1918
02:55:36,100 --> 02:55:49,100
You know, there, I would certainly amend my motion to have any pending reference checks by either the board president, vice president or staff, you know, at the district, whatever is appropriate just to, if you, we wanted to do that.

1919
02:55:49,100 --> 02:55:53,100
So I'll, I'll make that motion.

1920
02:55:54,100 --> 02:56:09,100
So a motion that I might suggest would be move approval of moving forward with H Y A and associates to conduct the superintendent search with the board of education.

1921
02:56:09,100 --> 02:56:15,100
And the reason why I'm leaving it a little bit open ended.

1922
02:56:15,100 --> 02:56:22,100
There is in case, as we're finalizing a contract with them or something, there might be some.

1923
02:56:22,100 --> 02:56:30,100
I don't, I don't want to surprise an end surprise after we've already made a motion saying this absolutely is the one we're going to go with.

1924
02:56:30,100 --> 02:56:33,100
So just move, let's maybe a motion moving forward with this.

1925
02:56:33,100 --> 02:56:40,100
And then once the contract, if it, if the contract is over, what is it, 25,000, then it comes back to the board.

1926
02:56:40,100 --> 02:56:41,100
Yep.

1927
02:56:41,100 --> 02:56:42,100
So moved.

1928
02:56:42,100 --> 02:56:43,100
Second.

1929
02:56:44,100 --> 02:56:46,100
Any discussion?

1930
02:56:46,100 --> 02:56:47,100
Hearing none.

1931
02:56:47,100 --> 02:56:48,100
All in favor?

1932
02:56:48,100 --> 02:56:49,100
Aye.

1933
02:56:49,100 --> 02:56:50,100
Aye.

1934
02:56:50,100 --> 02:56:51,100
Aye.

1935
02:56:51,100 --> 02:56:53,100
Any opposed?

1936
02:56:53,100 --> 02:56:55,100
Motion carries unanimously.

1937
02:56:55,100 --> 02:56:56,100
Sorry.

1938
02:56:56,100 --> 02:56:59,100
Could I just clarify was, uh, Mr. the second?

1939
02:56:59,100 --> 02:57:00,100
Miller.

1940
02:57:00,100 --> 02:57:07,100
Thank you.

1941
02:57:07,100 --> 02:57:11,100
Our next agenda item is the consent agenda.

1942
02:57:11,100 --> 02:57:24,100
Typically there is no separate discussion of the items unless a board member so request in which event the item or items will be removed from the general order of business and considered in their normal sequence on the agenda.

1943
02:57:24,100 --> 02:57:29,100
Are there any board members that would like any of these items removed?

1944
02:57:29,100 --> 02:57:31,100
Mr. Schuf?

1945
02:57:31,100 --> 02:57:32,100
No, my.

1946
02:57:32,100 --> 02:57:33,100
Oh, thank you.

1947
02:57:33,100 --> 02:57:34,100
My hand is still up by accident.

1948
02:57:34,100 --> 02:57:35,100
Sorry.

1949
02:57:36,100 --> 02:57:37,100
Members.

1950
02:57:37,100 --> 02:57:40,100
The Medicaid billing stock.

1951
02:57:40,100 --> 02:57:41,100
The Medicaid.

1952
02:57:41,100 --> 02:57:42,100
Okay.

1953
02:57:42,100 --> 02:57:45,100
Any other?

1954
02:57:45,100 --> 02:57:46,100
Okay.

1955
02:57:46,100 --> 02:57:52,100
I will entertain a motion of approval of the consent agenda with removal of B.

1956
02:57:52,100 --> 02:57:53,100
So moved.

1957
02:57:53,100 --> 02:57:54,100
Second.

1958
02:57:54,100 --> 02:57:56,100
Motion by Joanne Roo.

1959
02:57:56,100 --> 02:57:57,100
Seconded by Carol Fox.

1960
02:57:57,100 --> 02:57:58,100
Any discussion?

1961
02:57:58,100 --> 02:57:59,100
Hearing none.

1962
02:57:59,100 --> 02:58:01,100
Mr. Johnson.

1963
02:58:01,100 --> 02:58:02,100
Good.

1964
02:58:02,100 --> 02:58:03,100
Okay.

1965
02:58:03,100 --> 02:58:04,100
All in favor?

1966
02:58:05,100 --> 02:58:06,100
Aye.

1967
02:58:06,100 --> 02:58:07,100
Aye.

1968
02:58:07,100 --> 02:58:08,100
Aye.

1969
02:58:08,100 --> 02:58:09,100
Any opposed?

1970
02:58:09,100 --> 02:58:12,100
Motion carries unanimously.

1971
02:58:12,100 --> 02:58:16,100
We are at item B Medicaid billing and software.

1972
02:58:16,100 --> 02:58:18,100
Joanne Roo.

1973
02:58:18,100 --> 02:58:26,100
I just with all of the discussion we had earlier about making budget cuts.

1974
02:58:26,100 --> 02:58:32,100
I'm just not comfortable with purchasing something that's more expensive.

1975
02:58:32,100 --> 02:58:36,100
The area, school districts, Jamesville included all use compass care.

1976
02:58:36,100 --> 02:58:41,100
So I'm comfortable with keeping them as our provider.

1977
02:58:41,100 --> 02:58:46,100
Any other discussion?

1978
02:58:46,100 --> 02:58:47,100
Mr. Schuf?

1979
02:58:47,100 --> 02:58:56,100
So in the budget, I'm sorry, in the business committee, the chair is not in attendance right now.

1980
02:58:56,100 --> 02:59:01,100
The discussion, we had a special meeting to talk about this issue.

1981
02:59:01,100 --> 02:59:10,100
And essentially, we got guidance from cabinet level folks that there was a change in law

1982
02:59:10,100 --> 02:59:16,100
in the fall last year that allowed us to bill for more things.

1983
02:59:16,100 --> 02:59:25,100
And they're very confident that the streamlining of the new program that they're recommending

1984
02:59:25,100 --> 02:59:36,100
will easily have us bill at least the difference, which is like $10,000, and really very likely

1985
02:59:36,100 --> 02:59:39,100
much more when they streamline the system.

1986
02:59:39,100 --> 02:59:45,100
So I started with the same place you were a member, Roo.

1987
02:59:45,100 --> 02:59:49,100
But we ended up, the committee was unanimous pushing it forward.

1988
02:59:49,100 --> 02:59:54,100
Of course, that doesn't presume board action, but this is why we did it was we were

1989
02:59:54,100 --> 02:59:58,100
the administration felt strongly that that brought efficiencies.

1990
02:59:58,100 --> 03:00:04,100
It was easier to use, especially with the expansion in Medicaid, there was a change in state law.

1991
03:00:04,100 --> 03:00:06,100
So that's why we went forward with that.

1992
03:00:06,100 --> 03:00:08,100
So we asked the same type of questions.

1993
03:00:08,100 --> 03:00:14,100
There had the same sort of preconceived with everything going on, all the moving parts.

1994
03:00:14,100 --> 03:00:22,100
But that's why we ultimately went with the administration, proving the administration's suggestion.

1995
03:00:23,100 --> 03:00:25,100
Just a clarifying question.

1996
03:00:25,100 --> 03:00:30,100
So I'm totally empathetic to where Mr. was coming from.

1997
03:00:30,100 --> 03:00:37,100
And just is this a can you remind me, is this a one year contract that we're doing with the new one?

1998
03:00:37,100 --> 03:00:38,100
It's a three.

1999
03:00:38,100 --> 03:00:39,100
Okay.

2000
03:00:39,100 --> 03:00:45,100
So I mean, I think like as we're, you know, as we're looking at the budget and things like that.

2001
03:00:45,100 --> 03:00:47,100
And I think this came up in that first committee too.

2002
03:00:47,100 --> 03:00:53,100
I mean, I think just like kind of maybe if it makes sense annually, just to kind of say like, hey, like here's our change.

2003
03:00:53,100 --> 03:00:58,100
You know, if any, and like billing and things like that, like I think, you know, that could help.

2004
03:00:58,100 --> 03:01:04,100
I appreciate like, you know, it's a bit, it doesn't sit well, right, to buy something while we're cutting things.

2005
03:01:04,100 --> 03:01:05,100
And I completely feel that.

2006
03:01:05,100 --> 03:01:14,100
But I think like knowing that, you know, community is going to know that we're going to be able to see like whatever returns are on that and just the efficiencies that will take with staff to better utilize.

2007
03:01:14,100 --> 03:01:18,100
I just, I'm comfortable moving forward with it, but I, I'm really glad that you brought that up.

2008
03:01:18,100 --> 03:01:23,100
I think it's important to consider and I appreciate the administration's willingness and sharing that out with us.

2009
03:01:23,100 --> 03:01:33,100
I think it's also important to note that part of those discussions, the committee was that our current providers known about the change in the law for the last several months.

2010
03:01:33,100 --> 03:01:34,100
And yet.

2011
03:01:34,100 --> 03:01:38,100
Has not made the motions to help us get.

2012
03:01:39,100 --> 03:01:43,100
Maybe some of the additional dollars we could have had we had a different system.

2013
03:01:43,100 --> 03:01:56,100
So I think the belief is that if we go with this new system, we will be able to recoup more revenue than the expenditures so that we can have more of a positive revenue stream.

2014
03:01:56,100 --> 03:01:59,100
Thank you, Dr Anderson Carol Fox.

2015
03:01:59,100 --> 03:02:04,100
Yeah, my understanding, this is the one that matches skyward, right?

2016
03:02:04,100 --> 03:02:13,100
It, it, it, it integrates with skyward. So it should take the staff a whole lot less time to input the information and do what they need to do.

2017
03:02:13,100 --> 03:02:22,100
So it would save a lot of money in that way on staff time and allow them to do other things for the, the students in the district.

2018
03:02:22,100 --> 03:02:27,100
Any other questions or discussion?

2019
03:02:27,100 --> 03:02:30,100
Hearing none, is there a motion?

2020
03:02:30,100 --> 03:02:31,100
So moved.

2021
03:02:31,100 --> 03:02:32,100
Second.

2022
03:02:33,100 --> 03:02:39,100
And I'm assuming Mr. Shuf, your motion is approval.

2023
03:02:39,100 --> 03:02:40,100
Yeah. Okay.

2024
03:02:40,100 --> 03:02:41,100
Yes.

2025
03:02:41,100 --> 03:02:42,100
Move approval.

2026
03:02:42,100 --> 03:02:43,100
Okay.

2027
03:02:43,100 --> 03:02:45,100
Okay. Just so we're on the same page.

2028
03:02:45,100 --> 03:02:51,100
And motion by Dan Shuf, seconded by Carol Fox. Any other discussion? Hearing none.

2029
03:02:51,100 --> 03:02:52,100
I.

2030
03:02:52,100 --> 03:02:53,100
I.

2031
03:02:53,100 --> 03:02:54,100
I.

2032
03:02:54,100 --> 03:02:55,100
I.

2033
03:02:55,100 --> 03:02:56,100
Any opposed?

2034
03:02:56,100 --> 03:02:58,100
Motion carries unanimously.

2035
03:02:58,100 --> 03:03:06,100
Our next item is human resources. Are there any open session questions on exhibit A?

2036
03:03:08,100 --> 03:03:11,100
Are there any closed session questions on exhibit A?

2037
03:03:11,100 --> 03:03:13,100
I have a closed session question.

2038
03:03:13,100 --> 03:03:14,100
Okay.

2039
03:03:14,100 --> 03:03:38,100
A motion may be made and a vote taken to convene the Board of Education into closed session pursuant to section 19.85 parent one parent C of the Wisconsin state statutes relative to considering specific personnel recommendations.

2040
03:03:38,100 --> 03:03:41,100
Is there a motion to go into closed session?

2041
03:03:41,100 --> 03:03:42,100
So moved.

2042
03:03:42,100 --> 03:03:43,100
Second.

2043
03:03:44,100 --> 03:03:47,100
Motion by Meghan Miller, seconded by Dan Shuf.

2044
03:03:47,100 --> 03:03:49,100
I mean, I'm sorry, Carol Fox.

2045
03:03:49,100 --> 03:03:51,100
I have to do a roll call.

2046
03:03:51,100 --> 03:03:53,100
Yes, we do have to do a roll call.

2047
03:03:53,100 --> 03:03:56,100
Mr. Shuf.

2048
03:03:56,100 --> 03:04:01,100
Dan Shuf.

2049
03:04:01,100 --> 03:04:03,100
Meghan Miller.

2050
03:04:03,100 --> 03:04:04,100
Aye.

2051
03:04:04,100 --> 03:04:05,100
Carol Fox.

2052
03:04:05,100 --> 03:04:06,100
Aye.

2053
03:04:06,100 --> 03:04:08,100
Joanne Roo.

2054
03:04:08,100 --> 03:04:11,100
Bill Johnson.

2055
03:04:11,100 --> 03:04:12,100
Aye.

2056
03:04:12,100 --> 03:04:14,100
And Tia Jensen.

2057
03:04:14,100 --> 03:04:15,100
Aye.

2058
03:04:15,100 --> 03:04:18,100
Motion carried unanimously.

2059
03:04:18,100 --> 03:04:19,100
Thank you.

2060
03:04:19,100 --> 03:04:29,100
The Board of Education will reconvene in public session in order to take any action on these items discussed in this closed session.

2061
03:04:42,100 --> 03:04:45,100
Thank you.

2062
03:05:12,100 --> 03:05:14,100
Thank you.

2063
03:05:42,100 --> 03:05:44,100
Thank you.

2064
03:06:12,100 --> 03:06:13,100
Thank you.

2065
03:06:42,100 --> 03:06:44,100
Thank you.

2066
03:07:12,100 --> 03:07:13,100
Thank you.

2067
03:07:42,100 --> 03:07:43,100
Thank you.

2068
03:08:12,100 --> 03:08:13,100
Thank you.

2069
03:08:42,100 --> 03:08:43,100
Thank you.

2070
03:09:12,100 --> 03:09:13,100
Thank you.

2071
03:09:42,100 --> 03:09:43,100
Thank you.

2072
03:10:12,100 --> 03:10:13,100
Thank you.

2073
03:10:42,100 --> 03:10:43,100
Thank you.

2074
03:11:12,100 --> 03:11:13,100
Thank you.

2075
03:11:42,100 --> 03:11:43,100
Thank you.

2076
03:12:12,100 --> 03:12:13,100
Thank you.

2077
03:12:42,100 --> 03:12:43,100
Thank you.

2078
03:13:12,100 --> 03:13:13,100
Thank you.

2079
03:13:42,100 --> 03:13:43,100
Thank you.

2080
03:14:12,100 --> 03:14:13,100
Thank you.

2081
03:14:42,100 --> 03:14:43,100
Thank you.

2082
03:15:12,100 --> 03:15:13,100
Thank you.

2083
03:15:42,100 --> 03:15:43,100
Thank you.

2084
03:16:13,100 --> 03:16:14,100
Thank you.

2085
03:16:14,100 --> 03:16:15,100
Thank you.

2086
03:16:15,100 --> 03:16:16,100
Thank you.

2087
03:16:16,100 --> 03:16:17,100
Thank you.

2088
03:16:17,100 --> 03:16:18,100
Thank you.

2089
03:16:18,100 --> 03:16:19,100
Thank you.

2090
03:16:19,100 --> 03:16:20,100
Thank you.

2091
03:16:20,100 --> 03:16:21,100
Thank you.

2092
03:16:21,100 --> 03:16:22,100
Thank you.

2093
03:16:22,100 --> 03:16:23,100
Thank you.

2094
03:16:23,100 --> 03:16:24,100
Thank you.

2095
03:16:24,100 --> 03:16:25,100
Thank you.

2096
03:16:25,100 --> 03:16:26,100
Thank you.

2097
03:16:26,100 --> 03:16:27,100
Thank you.

2098
03:16:27,100 --> 03:16:28,100
Thank you.

2099
03:16:28,100 --> 03:16:29,100
Thank you.

2100
03:16:29,100 --> 03:16:30,100
Thank you.

2101
03:16:30,100 --> 03:16:31,100
Thank you.

2102
03:16:31,100 --> 03:16:32,100
Thank you.

2103
03:16:32,100 --> 03:16:33,100
Thank you.

2104
03:16:33,100 --> 03:16:34,100
Thank you.

2105
03:16:34,100 --> 03:16:35,100
Thank you.

2106
03:16:36,100 --> 03:16:37,100
Thank you.

2107
03:16:37,100 --> 03:16:38,100
Thank you.

2108
03:16:38,100 --> 03:16:39,100
Thank you.

2109
03:16:39,100 --> 03:16:40,100
Thank you.

2110
03:16:40,100 --> 03:16:41,100
Thank you.

2111
03:16:41,100 --> 03:16:42,100
Thank you.

2112
03:16:42,100 --> 03:16:43,100
Thank you.

2113
03:16:43,100 --> 03:16:44,100
Thank you.

2114
03:16:44,100 --> 03:16:45,100
Thank you.

2115
03:16:45,100 --> 03:16:46,100
Thank you.

2116
03:16:46,100 --> 03:16:47,100
Thank you.

2117
03:16:47,100 --> 03:16:48,100
Thank you.

2118
03:16:48,100 --> 03:16:49,100
Thank you.

2119
03:16:49,100 --> 03:16:50,100
Thank you.

2120
03:16:50,100 --> 03:16:51,100
Thank you.

2121
03:16:51,100 --> 03:16:52,100
Thank you.

2122
03:16:52,100 --> 03:16:53,100
Thank you.

2123
03:16:53,100 --> 03:16:54,100
Thank you.

2124
03:16:54,100 --> 03:16:55,100
Thank you.

2125
03:16:55,100 --> 03:16:56,100
Thank you.

2126
03:16:56,100 --> 03:16:57,100
Thank you.

2127
03:16:57,100 --> 03:16:58,100
Thank you.

2128
03:16:58,100 --> 03:16:59,100
Thank you.

2129
03:16:59,100 --> 03:17:00,100
Thank you.

2130
03:17:00,100 --> 03:17:01,100
Thank you.

2131
03:17:01,100 --> 03:17:03,100
Thank you.

2132
03:17:31,100 --> 03:17:33,100
Thank you.

2133
03:18:01,100 --> 03:18:03,100
Thank you.

2134
03:18:31,100 --> 03:18:33,100
Thank you.

2135
03:19:01,100 --> 03:19:03,100
Thank you.

2136
03:19:31,100 --> 03:19:33,100
Thank you.

2137
03:20:01,100 --> 03:20:03,100
Thank you.

2138
03:20:31,100 --> 03:20:33,100
Thank you.

2139
03:21:01,100 --> 03:21:03,100
Thank you.

2140
03:21:31,100 --> 03:21:33,100
Thank you.

2141
03:22:01,100 --> 03:22:03,100
Thank you.

2142
03:22:31,100 --> 03:22:33,100
Thank you.

2143
03:23:01,100 --> 03:23:03,100
Thank you.

2144
03:23:31,100 --> 03:23:33,100
Thank you.

2145
03:24:01,100 --> 03:24:03,100
Thank you.

2146
03:24:31,100 --> 03:24:44,100
Thank you.

2147
03:24:44,100 --> 03:24:45,100
Okay.

2148
03:24:45,100 --> 03:24:46,100
It is 927.

2149
03:24:46,100 --> 03:24:50,100
We are reconvening our open session portion of tonight's meeting.

2150
03:24:50,100 --> 03:24:53,100
Is there a motion for exhibit A?

2151
03:24:53,100 --> 03:24:58,100
I move approval of exhibit A.

2152
03:24:58,100 --> 03:25:00,100
Is there a second?

2153
03:25:01,100 --> 03:25:03,100
Motion by Carol Fox.

2154
03:25:03,100 --> 03:25:05,100
Second by Bill Johnson.

2155
03:25:05,100 --> 03:25:08,100
Any discussion?

2156
03:25:08,100 --> 03:25:09,100
Hearing none.

2157
03:25:09,100 --> 03:25:10,100
All in favor?

2158
03:25:10,100 --> 03:25:11,100
Aye.

2159
03:25:11,100 --> 03:25:12,100
Aye.

2160
03:25:12,100 --> 03:25:13,100
Aye.

2161
03:25:13,100 --> 03:25:14,100
Any opposed?

2162
03:25:14,100 --> 03:25:15,100
Nay.

2163
03:25:15,100 --> 03:25:23,100
Motion carries with one in opposition.

2164
03:25:23,100 --> 03:25:27,100
Our next item is executive session.

2165
03:25:28,100 --> 03:25:44,100
A motion may be made and a vote taken to convene the board of education and closed session pursuant to section 19.85 parent one parent F of the Wisconsin state statutes for the purpose of reviewing the expulsion orders of the independent hearing officer pursuant to section

2166
03:25:45,100 --> 03:26:04,100
120.13 parent one parent E4 dot H dot of the Wisconsin state statutes of the board of education shell upon review approve reverse or modify the orders and

2167
03:26:04,100 --> 03:26:21,100
we're missing something here.

2168
03:26:22,100 --> 03:26:25,100
What is the.

2169
03:26:25,100 --> 03:26:26,100
Okay.

2170
03:26:26,100 --> 03:26:34,100
And section 19.85 parent one parent C of the Wisconsin state statutes considering specific personnel recommendations.

2171
03:26:34,100 --> 03:26:35,100
Thank you.

2172
03:26:35,100 --> 03:26:39,100
Is there a motion to go in a closed session?

2173
03:26:39,100 --> 03:26:40,100
So moved.

2174
03:26:40,100 --> 03:26:41,100
Second.

2175
03:26:41,100 --> 03:26:42,100
Motion by Joanne.

2176
03:26:42,100 --> 03:26:44,100
Ru seconded by Carol Fox.

2177
03:26:44,100 --> 03:26:48,100
Mrs. Schop.

2178
03:26:48,100 --> 03:26:49,100
Carol Fox.

2179
03:26:49,100 --> 03:26:50,100
Aye.

2180
03:26:50,100 --> 03:26:51,100
Aye.

2181
03:26:51,100 --> 03:26:52,100
Aye.

2182
03:26:52,100 --> 03:26:53,100
Aye.

2183
03:26:53,100 --> 03:26:54,100
Aye.

2184
03:26:54,100 --> 03:26:55,100
Aye.

2185
03:26:55,100 --> 03:26:56,100
Aye.

2186
03:26:56,100 --> 03:26:57,100
Aye.

2187
03:26:57,100 --> 03:26:58,100
Aye.

2188
03:26:58,100 --> 03:26:59,100
Aye.

2189
03:26:59,100 --> 03:27:00,100
Aye.

2190
03:27:00,100 --> 03:27:01,100
Aye.

2191
03:27:01,100 --> 03:27:02,100
Motion carried unanimously.

2192
03:27:02,100 --> 03:27:03,100
Thank you.

2193
03:27:03,100 --> 03:27:09,100
The board of education may reconvene in public session in order to take any action if necessary on the items discussed in closed session.

2194
03:27:09,100 --> 03:27:12,100
Otherwise we will adjourn from closed session.

2195
03:27:12,100 --> 03:27:13,100
Thank you.

2196
03:27:13,100 --> 03:27:14,100
Good night.

2197
03:27:20,100 --> 03:27:21,100
Thank you.

2198
03:27:21,100 --> 03:27:22,100
Thank you.

2199
03:27:50,100 --> 03:27:51,100
Thank you.

2200
03:28:20,100 --> 03:28:22,100
Thank you.

