WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:23.640 I'm sorry to hear that. 00:23.640 --> 00:24.640 Okay. 00:24.640 --> 00:25.640 Okay. 00:25.640 --> 00:45.640 Okay. 00:45.640 --> 00:46.640 Okay. 00:46.640 --> 00:47.640 Okay. 00:47.640 --> 00:48.640 Okay. 00:48.640 --> 00:49.640 Okay. 00:49.640 --> 00:50.640 Okay. 00:50.640 --> 00:52.640 Okay. 00:52.640 --> 00:53.640 Okay. 00:53.640 --> 00:54.640 Okay. 00:54.640 --> 00:56.640 Okay. 00:56.640 --> 00:57.640 Okay. 00:57.640 --> 00:58.640 Okay. 00:58.640 --> 00:59.640 Okay. 00:59.640 --> 01:00.640 Okay. 01:00.640 --> 01:01.640 Okay. 01:01.640 --> 01:02.640 Okay. 01:02.640 --> 01:03.640 Okay. 01:03.640 --> 01:04.640 Okay. 01:04.640 --> 01:05.640 Okay. 01:05.640 --> 01:06.640 Okay. 01:06.640 --> 01:07.640 Okay. 01:07.640 --> 01:08.640 Okay. 01:08.640 --> 01:09.640 Okay. 01:09.640 --> 01:10.640 Okay. 01:10.640 --> 01:11.640 Okay. 01:11.640 --> 01:12.640 Okay. 01:12.640 --> 01:13.640 Okay. 01:13.640 --> 01:14.640 Okay. 01:14.640 --> 01:15.640 Okay. 01:15.640 --> 01:16.640 Okay. 01:16.640 --> 01:17.640 Okay. 01:17.640 --> 01:18.640 Okay. 01:18.640 --> 01:19.640 Okay. 01:19.640 --> 01:20.640 Okay. 01:20.640 --> 01:25.640 Okay. 01:25.640 --> 01:28.640 Okay. 01:28.640 --> 01:33.640 Okay. 01:33.640 --> 01:43.640 Okay. 01:43.640 --> 01:46.640 Okay. 01:46.640 --> 01:51.640 Yeah, I can hear you, here we need it, okay, thank you. 01:53.040 --> 01:54.560 Michelle, you're right. 01:54.560 --> 02:01.560 It is now 5.0, 7, 3, 3, 5.0, 3, and I'll call this meeting 02:02.040 --> 02:04.200 together, the business operations and finance 02:04.200 --> 02:05.920 human resources committee meeting. 02:07.080 --> 02:10.760 And Michelle, can I have a little call for this? 02:10.760 --> 02:12.240 Yes. 02:12.240 --> 02:13.080 Dan Shoe? 02:13.080 --> 02:13.920 Sure. 02:13.920 --> 02:14.760 Bill Johnson? 02:14.760 --> 02:15.600 Sure. 02:15.600 --> 02:16.440 Dan Finken? 02:16.820 --> 02:17.800 Member? 02:17.800 --> 02:19.080 Thank you. 02:19.080 --> 02:20.860 Could I have approval of the agenda? 02:20.860 --> 02:21.980 Approval of agenda? 02:22.440 --> 02:23.440 Sumu. 02:23.440 --> 02:24.280 Second. 02:24.280 --> 02:25.900 All those affairs ask? 02:25.900 --> 02:26.420 I? 02:26.420 --> 02:27.400 I? 02:27.400 --> 02:30.720 Most Lead Carry, approval of amendments. 02:30.720 --> 02:32.080 Close. 02:32.080 --> 02:33.180 Second. 02:33.180 --> 02:34.840 All those otherises favor say aye? 02:34.840 --> 02:35.680 Aye. 02:35.680 --> 02:36.340 Aye. 02:36.340 --> 02:38.480 Most wool carry. 02:38.480 --> 02:40.260 A public comment. 02:40.260 --> 02:41.280 Michelle? 02:41.280 --> 02:42.480 I have no public comment. 02:42.480 --> 02:43.960 Okay. 02:43.960 --> 02:46.960 Let's go to 3A. 02:46.960 --> 02:49.960 This hour, June 26th. 02:49.960 --> 02:52.960 Public financial assistance. 02:52.960 --> 02:53.960 Thank you, Mr. Hankins. 02:53.960 --> 02:58.960 I did attach the monthly financials into the four decks. 02:58.960 --> 03:05.960 Let me just bring it up here as a quick tool. 03:05.960 --> 03:10.960 Just a couple of notes that it is on audited year end balance 03:10.960 --> 03:13.960 because we are not completely audited yet. 03:13.960 --> 03:16.960 There may be some additional entries that we need to make. 03:16.960 --> 03:18.960 I think I have a couple of grants. 03:18.960 --> 03:20.960 There's a couple of questions about that. 03:20.960 --> 03:26.960 We might need to make some changes on yet. 03:26.960 --> 03:27.960 Yes. 03:27.960 --> 03:29.960 So every month you have to go through an audit 03:29.960 --> 03:33.960 before the posters is at our procedures. 03:33.960 --> 03:36.960 The audit is a year audit. 03:36.960 --> 03:39.960 So June 30th is our fiscal year end. 03:39.960 --> 03:42.960 So our audit is of the entire fiscal year. 03:42.960 --> 03:47.960 So we're still working through some of the closing documents 03:47.960 --> 03:49.960 for the year end. 03:49.960 --> 03:54.960 I did want to make the board aware that when we did our finals 03:54.960 --> 03:59.960 or health insurance adjustments for the year that the health insurance 03:59.960 --> 04:02.960 did come in, the claims came in a lot higher than expected. 04:02.960 --> 04:07.960 So our year end wasn't as close as I was hoping it to be to balance. 04:07.960 --> 04:08.960 We are over. 04:08.960 --> 04:11.960 Our expenditures are more than our revenues. 04:11.960 --> 04:15.960 It's not as much as we had budgeted for. 04:15.960 --> 04:19.960 We had budgeted to take $2 million, a little over $2 million, 04:19.960 --> 04:23.960 out of the other post employment benefits fund to cover any deficits. 04:23.960 --> 04:27.960 It's about $800,000 right now, but I still have a couple of grants 04:27.960 --> 04:30.960 that we need to look at that may go down a little bit, 04:30.960 --> 04:34.960 but that's where we're sitting right now for a year end. 04:34.960 --> 04:38.960 Is that number a year end one or do you just do it every month to it? 04:38.960 --> 04:39.960 Or do we sit with? 04:39.960 --> 04:40.960 So we do both. 04:40.960 --> 04:41.960 We do both. 04:41.960 --> 04:45.960 We do a month end every month, but then June 30th is our fiscal year 04:45.960 --> 04:52.960 end for the entire 25-26 school year. 04:52.960 --> 04:56.960 So I think what I heard you say is we're like from budgeted from last year, 04:56.960 --> 05:03.960 25 from six or 800,000 less or more than when we budgeted. 05:03.960 --> 05:09.960 Well, budget is different than expenses compared to revenues. 05:09.960 --> 05:13.960 So budgeted numbers are as an amount of dollars that we plan to spend 05:13.960 --> 05:19.960 or receive in revenues, but actual money that we've actually either received 05:19.960 --> 05:21.960 or spent out. 05:21.960 --> 05:24.960 And so when you come to your end and you're looking at fund balance, 05:24.960 --> 05:27.960 you look at your total revenues and your total expenditures, 05:27.960 --> 05:31.960 and the difference between those two is the change in your fund balance 05:31.960 --> 05:35.960 and the change in your available resources. 05:35.960 --> 05:36.960 Okay. 05:36.960 --> 05:37.960 Thank you. 05:37.960 --> 05:39.960 So, yeah. 05:39.960 --> 05:40.960 Okay. 05:40.960 --> 05:44.960 So, and I was looking at that this afternoon. 05:44.960 --> 05:50.960 This expenditures, we expended 149. 05:50.960 --> 05:55.960 And on our revenues, we brought in 113 to one. 05:55.960 --> 05:58.960 So my difference is a million in eight. 05:58.960 --> 06:01.960 So you're saying the grants and things that haven't been, 06:01.960 --> 06:06.960 been accounted for yet are probably somewhere around $30. 06:06.960 --> 06:07.960 Yeah. 06:07.960 --> 06:11.960 You're looking at $800 and some thousand dollars down at this. 06:11.960 --> 06:12.960 Correct. 06:12.960 --> 06:13.960 Which we will cover with. 06:13.960 --> 06:14.960 Okay. 06:14.960 --> 06:18.960 Well, that's, that's the another question that we have to discuss. 06:18.960 --> 06:22.960 Is that we're going to cover the deficit with open dollars or are we going to take it 06:22.960 --> 06:23.960 out of fund balance? 06:24.960 --> 06:28.960 Because we do still have fund balance, but we could reduce fund balance, 06:28.960 --> 06:33.960 which would leave the opab dollars in the investments that they're in, 06:33.960 --> 06:36.960 or we could move the opab dollars into fund time. 06:36.960 --> 06:40.960 What are the pros and cons of either method? 06:40.960 --> 06:41.960 Yeah. 06:41.960 --> 06:46.960 So the pros and cons are that the revenue that would be brought in from the opab fund 06:46.960 --> 06:48.960 will have an effect on shared cost. 06:48.960 --> 06:51.960 Because right now our shared cost is actually higher. 06:51.960 --> 06:55.960 And if the shared cost is higher, that means our portion of equalization aid 06:55.960 --> 06:58.960 in the following year will be slightly higher. 06:58.960 --> 07:02.960 If we bring in those opab dollars and that would think that shared cost a little bit 07:02.960 --> 07:09.960 down and that might affect the equalization aid in the, in the 26, 27 school year. 07:09.960 --> 07:10.960 Well, okay. 07:10.960 --> 07:18.960 So, so which version keeps our shared costs for equalization aid up? 07:18.960 --> 07:20.960 Not bringing in the opab dollars. 07:21.960 --> 07:22.960 Using fund balance. 07:22.960 --> 07:26.960 That counts as, so our expenditures will be shared costs, 07:26.960 --> 07:28.960 and then we're aided on shared costs. 07:28.960 --> 07:32.960 That's the other factor, but that's the endowment factor. 07:32.960 --> 07:38.960 So, what's the, I know all the ins and outs of the rules around equalization 07:38.960 --> 07:44.960 don't really make sense, but what's the, what's the reason why that counts for shared 07:44.960 --> 07:47.960 costs and if you spend from fund balance, it is. 07:47.960 --> 07:49.960 And if you spend from opab it's not. 07:49.960 --> 07:50.960 Okay. 07:50.960 --> 07:55.960 So, shared cost is how much the district has spent in comparison to all the other districts 07:55.960 --> 07:56.960 in the state. 07:56.960 --> 08:00.960 So, if the amount of money that we've spent, which is based, and then there's revenues 08:00.960 --> 08:04.960 that come off of that too, so that's your, off the calculation. 08:04.960 --> 08:10.960 So, if the amount of money you've spent is higher than what you've spent in previous 08:10.960 --> 08:15.960 years, and then there is a, it's a complicated calculation, but if you keep that number 08:15.960 --> 08:20.960 higher than your, your piece of those shared costs of equalization, it is higher. 08:20.960 --> 08:21.960 Mm-hmm. 08:21.960 --> 08:26.960 But somehow if we use opab it looks like we spent less. 08:26.960 --> 08:27.960 Yeah. 08:27.960 --> 08:32.960 No, we, we do have to keep kind of a balance between the two because our fund balance, 08:32.960 --> 08:39.960 we also don't want our fund balance to drop too low either, but the, in my opinion, 08:39.960 --> 08:43.960 the amount of the deficit is pretty minimal still. 08:43.960 --> 08:47.960 I mean, it's not more than a million dollars right now. 08:47.960 --> 08:52.960 So, right now, just because I wasn't here when you guys put the budget together, the 08:52.960 --> 08:58.960 budget that was put together, authorized, planned for whatever the right language is, 08:58.960 --> 09:05.960 to spend up to two million of opab, we came in well under that, but right now it's about 09:05.960 --> 09:09.960 $800,000 that we'll need to use from one of our balances. 09:09.960 --> 09:14.960 And you said that might go down a little bit as the, as the grants get reconciled. 09:14.960 --> 09:15.960 Correct. 09:15.960 --> 09:16.960 Okay. 09:16.960 --> 09:22.960 So if you look on this screen right here, this is the funding time expenditure. 09:22.960 --> 09:25.960 We budgeted $91 million. 09:25.960 --> 09:26.960 Yep. 09:26.960 --> 09:28.960 The original budget was $91 million. 09:28.960 --> 09:34.960 And then the, the total expenditure so far is that $90 million for 23. 09:34.960 --> 09:42.960 So we're still under because this has the, I'm sorry, this is the expenditure side. 09:42.960 --> 09:48.960 So we're still under our budget, but we're, you know, still more expenditures than we had 09:48.960 --> 09:54.960 revenues because the revenues don't include the other post-employment benefits transfer. 09:54.960 --> 10:14.960 Sorry, I'm looking for the revenue report, I can show you. 10:14.960 --> 10:21.960 And then just also in my first year here, what, when typically does the audit work get done 10:21.960 --> 10:23.960 and when does it come to the board, that sort of stuff? 10:23.960 --> 10:26.960 So ideally, the audit work should have been done last week. 10:26.960 --> 10:27.960 Ideally. 10:27.960 --> 10:32.960 But I got to be honest with you that being down a person in the finance office, when I started 10:32.960 --> 10:37.960 in the district, we had eight people in finance and the services. 10:37.960 --> 10:38.960 And we've gone down to four. 10:38.960 --> 10:39.960 Yep. 10:39.960 --> 10:43.960 So to go from eight to four people has been a bit of a struggle. 10:43.960 --> 10:44.960 Yep. 10:44.960 --> 10:49.960 I'm actually better off than we were last year because we've learned to adapt. 10:50.960 --> 10:53.960 But we are still a bit behind. 10:53.960 --> 10:58.960 I expect that we'll be done in the next week or two and have the audit completed. 10:58.960 --> 11:03.960 And then when does it generally, when do you think it's probably come to the, this committee 11:03.960 --> 11:04.960 or the board? 11:04.960 --> 11:07.960 The audit report typically comes to the board December, January timeline. 11:07.960 --> 11:08.960 Yep. 11:08.960 --> 11:10.960 And then what firm do we use? 11:10.960 --> 11:12.960 We're using a lot of economic. 11:12.960 --> 11:13.960 Okay. 11:13.960 --> 11:14.960 And we've used them before. 11:14.960 --> 11:15.960 Yep. 11:15.960 --> 11:18.960 This is year three to grow for a lot of money. 11:19.960 --> 11:25.960 Still, if you would, and I've asked this before, teach again the use of op-ed funds, 11:25.960 --> 11:31.960 which we've learned, you know, the use of those funds, how it, and then kind of touched 11:31.960 --> 11:38.960 on it, how, you know, magnetizes some other things that happen to the district if we 11:38.960 --> 11:39.960 use those. 11:39.960 --> 11:42.960 We just do a thumbnail on the applicant and I don't forget it. 11:42.960 --> 11:44.960 You've talked to me before, but. 11:44.960 --> 11:48.960 So if we use the op-ed dollars, some are taking them out of the investment that they're 11:48.960 --> 11:54.960 in and they are in a pretty high yield investment right now. 11:54.960 --> 11:59.960 But if we, if we use those dollars, they will have an effect on our shared costs going 11:59.960 --> 12:00.960 in the future years. 12:00.960 --> 12:02.960 Do you know what that correlation is? 12:02.960 --> 12:06.960 It's not a one-to-one correlation because it depends on a lot of other factors in the 12:06.960 --> 12:13.960 state as well, but it affects that balance between equalization aid and property taxpayers. 12:13.960 --> 12:19.960 So the amount of money the district can bring in is called the revenue limit. 12:19.960 --> 12:24.960 And the revenue limit is made up of the two pieces of the equalization aid and property 12:24.960 --> 12:25.960 taxes. 12:25.960 --> 12:27.960 And we're trying to keep that kind of level. 12:27.960 --> 12:33.960 And if we keep our expenditures up, then equalization aid stays up and the property taxes 12:33.960 --> 12:38.960 hopefully don't, don't talk too much, but they stay pretty, pretty level and consistent. 12:39.960 --> 12:41.960 Okay, thank you very much. 12:41.960 --> 12:44.960 Any other three questions? 12:44.960 --> 12:49.960 Four questions? 12:49.960 --> 12:50.960 No. 12:50.960 --> 12:56.960 Then I look for approval to send us to the full board. 12:56.960 --> 12:57.960 Second. 12:57.960 --> 12:59.960 All the people say aye. 12:59.960 --> 13:00.960 Aye. 13:00.960 --> 13:05.960 We should carry the full board. 13:05.960 --> 13:12.960 Move on to four pieces. 13:12.960 --> 13:13.960 No. 13:13.960 --> 13:14.960 Four A. 13:14.960 --> 13:15.960 I'm sorry. 13:15.960 --> 13:16.960 Four A. 13:16.960 --> 13:19.960 I don't think you're wrong. 13:19.960 --> 13:25.960 As I leave in the best, I've had a couple of conversations with Mr. Cruz. 13:26.960 --> 13:28.960 Do I need our insurance carrier? 13:28.960 --> 13:31.960 We represent our insurance carriers on our building's property. 13:31.960 --> 13:39.960 And I was just by saying, this is no shade on Stephelwood or the thing that she does. 13:39.960 --> 13:45.960 I thought it was just a good time to bring in a representative of the insurance world who 13:45.960 --> 13:54.960 understands this area we're going into, closing buildings, shuttered buildings. 13:54.960 --> 14:01.960 All we need to have, insurance-wise, we don't need to have, and all the nuances involved 14:01.960 --> 14:02.960 in them. 14:02.960 --> 14:09.960 So it's a wide open thing, and as I've learned recently, Mr. Cruz is here today tonight just 14:09.960 --> 14:16.960 answering questions we have about, we know that we have, coming in, we have collect, you know, 14:16.960 --> 14:17.960 other buildings. 14:17.960 --> 14:22.960 But anyways, so I asked Dwight to come here and just give him an overview if we had questions 14:22.960 --> 14:23.960 about what do we do? 14:23.960 --> 14:24.960 How do we do? 14:24.960 --> 14:25.960 How do we ensure? 14:25.960 --> 14:27.960 Do we have to have people in the buildings? 14:27.960 --> 14:28.960 So Dwight? 14:28.960 --> 14:29.960 I'm Keith. 14:29.960 --> 14:31.960 Once these are, we attend kids. 14:31.960 --> 14:34.960 So I'm not all sorry about my name, too. 14:34.960 --> 14:35.960 Do you want to tell me? 14:35.960 --> 14:36.960 Is that okay? 14:36.960 --> 14:37.960 Keith, is that the table? 14:37.960 --> 14:38.960 Do you want me to? 14:38.960 --> 14:39.960 Yeah. 14:39.960 --> 14:40.960 Please do. 14:40.960 --> 14:41.960 Yeah. 14:41.960 --> 14:42.960 I'm sorry. 14:42.960 --> 14:43.960 Thank you. 14:43.960 --> 14:44.960 Yeah, I know. 14:44.960 --> 14:45.960 I used to. 14:45.960 --> 14:46.960 I used to. 14:46.960 --> 14:47.960 Hey, Mom, I'm the middle one, you know. 14:47.960 --> 14:48.960 I'm trying to remember about this. 14:48.960 --> 14:49.960 Well, yeah. 14:49.960 --> 14:50.960 Yeah. 14:50.960 --> 14:51.960 Well, try to be. 14:52.960 --> 14:57.960 Well, I thought maybe it might help just for a moment to take two seconds so you can understand 14:57.960 --> 15:01.960 what your current program is, because what you're trying to avoid in all the change, 15:01.960 --> 15:06.960 and many schools in Wisconsin are going through this, what do we have and why don't we want 15:06.960 --> 15:10.960 to lose that and how can we prevent losing when we're making these business decisions? 15:10.960 --> 15:13.960 Because every school, not every, but many are dealing with it. 15:13.960 --> 15:15.960 It's all over the place. 15:15.960 --> 15:17.960 So, and I'm going to say stuff to you. 15:17.960 --> 15:20.960 Again, I hope I can say it in the level that I'm not trying to talk down here. 15:20.960 --> 15:23.720 I just want you to understand fundamentally. 15:23.720 --> 15:26.520 It doesn't matter how many buildings you have, but I want you to understand, you guys have 15:26.520 --> 15:28.480 what's called a blanket policy. 15:28.480 --> 15:33.680 You have roughly $375 million in all your buildings collectively together. 15:33.680 --> 15:35.640 Now, I want to give you an analogy. 15:35.640 --> 15:40.000 If you take, if you take 10 buildings, just this is not related to you. 15:40.000 --> 15:42.320 Take 10 buildings are all a million dollars. 15:42.320 --> 15:44.960 That's 10 million total, a million on each. 15:44.960 --> 15:48.760 But when you blanket them, you actually have a bucket of $10 million to drop them. 15:48.760 --> 15:52.800 And why that's really important is, say that we have a loss and this million dollars 15:52.800 --> 15:54.800 now becomes $2 million to rebuild. 15:54.800 --> 15:58.080 Well, you can go to your bucket because you got 10 million, you don't have just a million, 15:58.080 --> 15:59.600 you're not going to be short. 15:59.600 --> 16:03.800 I'm saying that to you because you have a very large bucket, which you need. 16:03.800 --> 16:08.840 When you deal with buildings that are occupied, that are schools, and they're all those things, 16:08.840 --> 16:11.720 you're in the bucket, you're in the blanket, it's a beautiful thing, and then you just 16:11.720 --> 16:13.200 have to deal with your deductibles. 16:13.200 --> 16:14.920 Did that make sense? 16:14.920 --> 16:15.920 Okay. 16:15.920 --> 16:20.960 So now, let's talk, you asked me, I think, Tom, to talk about Cunningham, can we start 16:20.960 --> 16:21.960 with that one? 16:21.960 --> 16:22.960 Sure. 16:22.960 --> 16:27.480 So Cunningham, I mean, every one of your buildings, and every school that they do, that goes, 16:27.480 --> 16:31.080 you have to kind of decide, what am I going to do with this building, and how long am 16:31.080 --> 16:32.760 I going to do it for? 16:32.760 --> 16:35.560 So I know one of your questions was occupancy. 16:35.560 --> 16:40.360 I went to your carrier, generically, to talk to them about this whole topic because it's 16:40.360 --> 16:43.440 a statewide topic. 16:43.440 --> 16:50.200 So Cunningham, if our intent is to shutter that or set it aside for a year, it'll be 16:50.200 --> 16:54.840 quote unquote vacant with nobody in it, and I'm going to use that term vacant because 16:54.840 --> 16:59.840 vacancy, I have what that reads like, and it's very clear how it looks, and I'm assuming 16:59.840 --> 17:02.320 this would be a vacant building for a year. 17:02.320 --> 17:05.560 So then the question was, could you keep it in the blanket, and what would you want to 17:05.560 --> 17:07.120 make it that way? 17:07.120 --> 17:11.760 Well we'd want, and again, I have to talk to them about each building, but is it going 17:11.760 --> 17:15.040 to be, some are going to be looking at it after every day, it's seeing it, are they 17:15.040 --> 17:19.880 going to maintain heat, you know, the stuff that could avoid this thing having problems 17:19.880 --> 17:24.000 because normally when we walk away from a building, bad things happen, vandals happen, 17:24.000 --> 17:25.000 all that. 17:25.000 --> 17:32.080 In fact, if you look, if you didn't have that agreement to this thing, a vacancy clause 17:32.080 --> 17:36.960 would kick in, it's a national thing on every policy, at 60 days you lose a lot of your 17:36.960 --> 17:41.480 good coverings because now it's vacant, and this is on every policy in America. 17:41.480 --> 17:45.760 So the question is, how can I get them not to put that clause on, and keep it so it's 17:45.760 --> 17:47.760 in my blanket? 17:47.760 --> 17:51.320 And they've said, I think on that one I'm going to be able to get it done, so we can 17:51.320 --> 17:55.000 take a year off from it, they'll leave it in the blanket, be a part of what you have, 17:55.000 --> 17:58.800 all the good stuff we have, but they're going to want you to watch it every day, have someone 17:58.800 --> 18:03.240 go by and make sure the heat's working, and by the way, I'm just giving you a council 18:03.240 --> 18:04.240 or a little thought. 18:04.240 --> 18:08.760 This can't be at 35 or 40 degrees because then we have pipes break on the edges. 18:08.760 --> 18:12.880 So whatever you can do to keep that stuff from getting, almost like you're living there, 18:12.880 --> 18:16.800 but you're not, you're not having people, and that's not, in this case, and I'm saying 18:16.800 --> 18:21.680 that's a prerequisite, it does help, because if we know way of people in there, then they 18:21.680 --> 18:24.120 know it's being cared for, that's the difference. 18:24.120 --> 18:29.080 So if you can do it, it looks occupied, and it is probably occupied, but if you're not 18:29.080 --> 18:32.400 going to do that, the other way around it would be to maintain the stuff so they know 18:32.400 --> 18:34.000 what you're caring for. 18:34.000 --> 18:37.240 So that would be question one of that, if we want to keep it, we want it to be ready 18:37.240 --> 18:40.080 for next year, you're going to probably want to do that anyway, because you're not 18:40.080 --> 18:42.760 going to want all the pipes to burst or stuff like that. 18:42.760 --> 18:46.000 So that building, that would be the solution. 18:46.000 --> 18:50.280 Would it help you if I walked down the path if you don't do that? 18:50.280 --> 18:53.000 Would that help you, because that'll help you with some of your other buildings? 18:53.000 --> 18:57.240 So let's say you don't want to do that, and you really are just going to let it sit there, 18:57.240 --> 19:01.040 you're probably not going to maintain heat, you may even board it up, but you do want 19:01.040 --> 19:04.200 to keep it, you don't want to sell it, you can't sell it, whatever. 19:04.200 --> 19:08.400 Even vacancy kicks in, and I thought I'd just, maybe this will help you a little bit. 19:08.400 --> 19:14.240 This is what goes away when vacancy kicks in for every policy in America at 60 days. 19:14.240 --> 19:20.920 You lose vandalism coverage, you lose sprinkler leakage, you lose glass breakage, water damage, 19:20.920 --> 19:26.440 attempted theft, and they do also take it out of your blanket, so it's no longer a part 19:26.440 --> 19:27.440 of your blanket. 19:27.440 --> 19:33.080 So that's why if we can keep it so they don't deem it vacant, if that term's making sense, 19:33.080 --> 19:36.120 we're going to win on all of these buildings that you really want to treasure and keep, 19:36.120 --> 19:38.240 even though you're not going to use it for a year. 19:38.240 --> 19:43.680 So Cunningham, I think I can win that battle if you all can decide and say, we really do 19:43.680 --> 19:49.280 want to maintain this almost as if we're there, especially on the step that it caused claims, 19:49.280 --> 19:53.480 and if that's doable and fits into your budget thought, then I can fight for battle and say, 19:53.480 --> 19:56.960 we want to keep Cunningham in our bucket, even though there's no one there. 19:56.960 --> 20:00.120 Is that a fair overview? 20:00.120 --> 20:05.680 So now if you look at any others, and if you want to, because by the way, I don't 20:05.680 --> 20:09.080 know if you care about, I have all the values of all these, but really the bottom line is 20:09.080 --> 20:13.640 if you understand the blanket, the real key is, and that's why Stephanie I think is trying 20:13.640 --> 20:17.520 as every school to keep it in the blanket, because the blanket is the power, because 20:17.520 --> 20:22.280 I tell you claims that go, let's take a building that we're not going to do. 20:22.280 --> 20:28.360 Let's pick one that's vacant and you know you're not going to, or maybe I'll just take 20:28.360 --> 20:29.880 a pretend building. 20:29.880 --> 20:33.680 We've got a building, let's say it's $10 million and we're not going to keep it in the blanket. 20:33.680 --> 20:35.040 We're just going to shudder it. 20:35.040 --> 20:38.600 We hope we can sell it, but we're probably going to walk away from it. 20:38.600 --> 20:42.080 That building, they're going to say, Keith, we're going to reduce it to ACV, not replace 20:42.080 --> 20:43.080 the cost. 20:43.080 --> 20:44.320 We're not going to give you new for old anymore. 20:44.320 --> 20:47.960 We're going to give you, and we'll probably ensure for half the value, which is about 20:47.960 --> 20:53.280 $5 million, and we're only going to pay partial losses probably up to 50%, so it's very, very 20:53.280 --> 20:58.560 painful if we lose that roof, because now you won't probably have the money to do what 20:58.560 --> 21:01.680 you want to do with that building, other than maybe tear it down. 21:01.680 --> 21:05.720 That's why, when you come out of the blanket, you lose a lot of good things. 21:05.720 --> 21:10.160 My thought would be, only do that on a building that you're really willing to walk away from 21:10.160 --> 21:13.200 or if you're going to sell it or something. 21:13.200 --> 21:15.560 That's why we most have to do these building by building. 21:15.560 --> 21:17.680 What's our intention with that building? 21:17.680 --> 21:19.840 Are we better off with that building down? 21:19.840 --> 21:21.240 That gives me another whole question. 21:21.240 --> 21:22.640 Do we vacate it? 21:22.640 --> 21:26.720 Just leave it there and just keep liability on that land so we don't get stuck with an 21:26.720 --> 21:28.520 injury on top of it. 21:29.520 --> 21:32.640 That's the thought you're going to have to have on every building, and you only know 21:32.640 --> 21:34.120 yourself what you're planning. 21:34.120 --> 21:38.720 I don't know that, but if we deal with Cunningham, I think we can probably keep that with EMC 21:38.720 --> 21:42.920 for this next year, knowing that next year we're going to try and reoccupy it, which 21:42.920 --> 21:44.480 is your, I think, a big question. 21:44.480 --> 21:47.720 That's a nice building, and it's got a lot of value. 21:47.720 --> 21:51.720 Any other questions, any other buildings or examples, because, yeah, please. 21:51.720 --> 21:56.360 This would be like people that have an absorbance, and they're not there in a winter, they just 21:56.360 --> 21:57.360 go, yeah. 21:57.360 --> 21:58.360 Well, it's different. 21:58.360 --> 22:02.560 Their personal life is a little different, but I had a cabin up north, and they made 22:02.560 --> 22:06.640 me drain the water each year, because I knew I was going to be away for six months, and 22:06.640 --> 22:09.320 I wasn't going to maintain that, but they still covered it. 22:09.320 --> 22:14.080 Now, again, I was a short-lived life, and I don't have anymore, but, yeah, I think that's 22:14.080 --> 22:19.240 a good example, because normally when people vacate a building, bad things happen. 22:19.240 --> 22:21.960 People go in and steal all the copper wiring. 22:21.960 --> 22:25.320 It's just, most people, when they get down on that road, they really try to figure out 22:25.320 --> 22:26.320 how do I get rid of this? 22:26.320 --> 22:30.880 Either I demo it, sell the land or something, because it almost becomes a liability hazard, 22:30.880 --> 22:34.080 because people have moved into those places. 22:34.080 --> 22:38.840 There's a lot of stuff that goes on, but ideally, if you take Cunningham, this is your first 22:38.840 --> 22:39.840 point of reference. 22:39.840 --> 22:44.320 I think we can probably keep that, and then you can do that with it, and I have to go 22:44.320 --> 22:46.760 back in that that's what you decide you wanted to do, but you're going to probably have to 22:46.760 --> 22:48.240 commit to yourselves. 22:48.240 --> 22:51.280 I'm going to really kind of watch over that building, because it's important to us. 22:51.280 --> 22:54.400 If you have another one, you're going to set aside, put it up to sale, but we're not 22:54.400 --> 22:55.400 committing a move. 22:55.400 --> 22:57.520 We're going to board it up until we can get something. 22:57.520 --> 22:58.520 That'll be a different one. 22:58.520 --> 23:02.120 Then I can still fight that fight, but probably they're going to say, keep, let's take that 23:02.120 --> 23:07.840 out of the blanket, let's put a CD value on it, and that may be all you care about, because 23:07.840 --> 23:11.960 if it does go down, you're going to probably have more money than you need to demo it, 23:11.960 --> 23:15.560 and then you'll be ahead, because you've got a little cash, but you also can sell the 23:15.560 --> 23:16.560 land. 23:16.560 --> 23:19.520 If that's okay with that, that may not be a bad outcome. 23:19.520 --> 23:20.520 Go ahead. 23:20.520 --> 23:25.800 And you can put a lot of it, like if the heat goes below 55, the water is something that 23:25.800 --> 23:26.800 happens. 23:26.800 --> 23:31.440 So if there's any problem, there's a way we don't. 23:31.440 --> 23:35.240 Well, these are the tools you'll have to decide, like for example, a lot of places now they're 23:35.240 --> 23:38.240 requiring these water sensor things. 23:38.240 --> 23:39.240 They're pretty inexpensive. 23:39.240 --> 23:40.880 You can put them in key spots. 23:40.880 --> 23:43.840 Do we have a leak coming, all that? 23:43.840 --> 23:47.200 Those you can put over, and those can be on someone's watch, I mean, maintenance can 23:47.280 --> 23:51.600 do a lot to govern this thing, but I would say if we focus just on Cunningham, that's 23:51.600 --> 23:52.760 what you're going to want to think about. 23:52.760 --> 23:56.760 What can we do there to keep that building safe, because we definitely want it back. 23:56.760 --> 23:59.360 And then next year, you'll face another problem, because whatever you're going to put into 23:59.360 --> 24:05.200 Cunningham will then become, I'm assuming, vacant, or at least a few might. 24:05.200 --> 24:06.200 Go ahead. 24:06.200 --> 24:07.200 Yeah. 24:07.200 --> 24:13.200 Let's go back a couple of years, and not to, because my recollection is a little bit 24:13.200 --> 24:18.000 difficult, not to go backwards, but I remember Tommy Brinkle telling me that they didn't 24:18.000 --> 24:22.280 walk through set that building, and I remember they had a couple of vandalism that happened 24:22.280 --> 24:24.440 and people got in, blah, blah, blah. 24:24.440 --> 24:30.480 So it's not all what Mr. Cruz is telling us. 24:30.480 --> 24:35.480 I mean, it's more work for the, make this park, Scott Ladd, and there's people, but 24:35.480 --> 24:39.800 it's within the purview of doing something like that, right? 24:39.800 --> 24:42.600 So there's two options with what I'm hearing. 24:42.600 --> 24:47.320 What we currently do with buildings that we've vacated, so McNeil and Wright, well, 24:47.320 --> 24:51.840 Wright, we lose people in there, but make me on what we did, we have cameras on all 24:51.840 --> 24:52.840 the buildings. 24:52.840 --> 24:57.680 So we have not shut the cameras off, and I guess maybe that was misunderstanding. 24:57.680 --> 24:59.480 The cameras are still running at the building. 24:59.480 --> 25:02.200 The security systems are still up at those buildings. 25:02.200 --> 25:07.080 The heat and the water are still on at those buildings. 25:07.080 --> 25:11.120 Now we may shut pieces and parts of the water off. 25:11.120 --> 25:16.560 McNeil, I think we shut off the water of most of the building, except for a few areas. 25:16.560 --> 25:22.600 But the majority of the building will be heated because you can't up the temperature, go 25:22.600 --> 25:24.600 below a certain temperature. 25:24.600 --> 25:30.040 But those are all monitored also by our HVAC systems, those are all online, and the team 25:30.040 --> 25:31.040 monitors those. 25:31.040 --> 25:36.560 So the building is, even though it's unoccupied, it's not like no one's paying attention 25:36.560 --> 25:37.560 to it. 25:37.920 --> 25:41.280 The other option that he was talking about was completely turning everything off and 25:41.280 --> 25:42.280 walking away. 25:42.280 --> 25:48.920 That is not what we thought that the board had intended, so we would continue to maintain 25:48.920 --> 25:55.040 that building or any other building unless the board directed us to completely vacate 25:55.040 --> 25:57.000 and walk away from a building. 25:57.000 --> 26:01.120 That wasn't what I was trying to say, I was trying to say that we were compliant with 26:01.120 --> 26:08.400 what he was telling us, that we had a presence in there, but it was by a week later, you 26:08.400 --> 26:09.400 know. 26:09.400 --> 26:10.400 Oh, it's daily. 26:10.400 --> 26:11.400 It's daily. 26:11.400 --> 26:12.400 It's daily. 26:12.400 --> 26:13.400 It's daily monitoring. 26:13.400 --> 26:20.240 So there's a way to do what he is telling us to do, rather than having a whole force 26:20.240 --> 26:21.240 of people. 26:21.240 --> 26:26.640 I don't care if it's going to be COAC or Cunningham or whatever buildings we look 26:26.640 --> 26:27.640 at. 26:27.640 --> 26:32.120 I think the screws are telling us that each case is individual. 26:32.120 --> 26:33.120 Yeah. 26:33.120 --> 26:34.120 So. 26:34.120 --> 26:39.120 Well, and I think to me too, to a cost side, if you can keep things in the blanket, they're 26:39.120 --> 26:45.000 treated, rate per 100 is less than replace the cost, believe it or not, than actual cash 26:45.000 --> 26:48.800 value, because when you're going actual cash value, the exposure levels higher, the carriers 26:48.800 --> 26:49.800 get concerned. 26:49.800 --> 26:52.520 So if we can keep it there, we also get better rates. 26:52.520 --> 26:55.520 Everything's good if we can keep it there, and I would say one, what you've just said 26:55.520 --> 26:59.440 to me is almost exactly what they're saying we'd like to see. 26:59.440 --> 27:05.360 And even on buildings that maybe don't have quite the future of Cunningham, I think we 27:05.360 --> 27:08.280 could go back with that statement saying, we're going to maintain this, and then we'll 27:08.280 --> 27:09.440 do it so one at a time. 27:09.440 --> 27:13.640 But I think I can win a lot of battles, I guess, as a whole point, because there was 27:13.640 --> 27:19.000 a lot of empathy coming out of their voice of schools really struggling with this problem. 27:19.000 --> 27:21.040 So and I really was happy with that. 27:21.040 --> 27:25.760 And so I think the answer is yes, and what I've heard here, and if you've got others 27:25.760 --> 27:29.880 that are in that spot, we should talk about, I think the ones we really have to spend time 27:29.880 --> 27:33.800 with, which I can probably get approval on those, because you want to declare it too, 27:33.800 --> 27:37.080 by the way, you don't want to hide that, because if they come out and inspect, they'll 27:37.080 --> 27:38.080 see it anyway. 27:38.080 --> 27:41.880 And you don't want it to be after a loss, and say, hey, this building's been vacant, 27:41.880 --> 27:42.880 all that. 27:42.880 --> 27:46.880 I want it to be declared and say, we are waiving any, you know, we're not going to, we're not 27:46.880 --> 27:49.360 going to, they can see Claus kick in on Cunningham. 27:49.360 --> 27:53.520 I want to see that, that I'm safe, but we do it each building that way, unless we know 27:53.520 --> 27:59.080 consciously, boy, this building's just not in our future, then we can deal with that 27:59.080 --> 28:03.880 differently, and that would be a decision you'd make saying, we're okay if this building 28:03.880 --> 28:07.560 goes down, and we walk away from it, because more than likely, nothing is going to happen, 28:07.560 --> 28:10.760 and you're going to have lesser coverage, no claim will happen, and then at some point, 28:10.760 --> 28:12.880 you'll either sell it, tear it down, or whatever. 28:12.880 --> 28:13.960 That's the normal stuff. 28:13.960 --> 28:18.480 We don't, these vandalism tend not to damage the building, they just strip it apart. 28:18.480 --> 28:22.760 Or you have, you know, or you have like water, claims and stuff like that, and that's when 28:22.760 --> 28:26.320 you're going to see the carrier rise up saying, boy, you said you were maintaining this, but 28:26.320 --> 28:27.840 you're not. 28:27.840 --> 28:28.840 Stuff like that. 28:28.840 --> 28:34.200 I think the worst thing you can do is leave something vacant, because it'll be your water. 28:34.200 --> 28:36.760 You know, you're asking for problems. 28:36.760 --> 28:41.000 Well and, you know, we haven't talked about mold and stuff, but if you start to have leaks, 28:41.000 --> 28:47.320 I just was in a meeting and mold is a nasty critter, and then you're almost doing a building. 28:47.360 --> 28:50.760 You know, you can do that too, so that's why the frequency is going over this good. 28:50.760 --> 28:52.160 Everything I'm hearing is really good. 28:52.160 --> 28:58.320 It's just a matter of, you've got some shuffling to do, and I would say, just run your decisions 28:58.320 --> 28:59.800 the way you want to do it. 28:59.800 --> 29:03.240 Stephanie can come to me with, hey, this is what our plan on these buildings. 29:03.240 --> 29:04.240 Let's just go to EMC. 29:04.240 --> 29:08.960 I think they're going to work with us nicely, and I'll fight that fight, of course. 29:08.960 --> 29:17.960 So in a perfect world, and the board had been decided to shut a cutting out, then you 29:17.960 --> 29:25.080 go to your carrier, and then you go back and say, they want five, six, seven days of people 29:25.080 --> 29:29.320 coming in that building, for that building, then that's how that works. 29:29.320 --> 29:30.800 Well they're not declaring that. 29:30.800 --> 29:31.800 They just want to know what to do. 29:31.800 --> 29:32.800 They want to say it. 29:32.800 --> 29:33.800 Yes, yes. 29:33.800 --> 29:34.800 But something like that. 29:34.800 --> 29:38.800 The insurance carrier will say, well, we want this. 29:38.800 --> 29:39.800 Right. 29:39.800 --> 29:41.160 She's already kind of told me that. 29:41.160 --> 29:42.160 She's right, right. 29:42.160 --> 29:44.720 Which is what you're doing, basically, or have done. 29:44.720 --> 29:46.720 I know the system goes. 29:46.720 --> 29:47.720 Right. 29:47.720 --> 29:52.840 That's how I can win the battle of keeping it in the blanket, because it's an unoccupied 29:52.840 --> 29:55.360 but actively watched and controlled building. 29:55.360 --> 29:57.120 It's another way to say it. 29:57.120 --> 30:00.960 You know, it takes several orders to store it, and then you're checking it. 30:00.960 --> 30:06.360 By the way, too, just another legality, but what's deemed occupied, because I write 30:06.360 --> 30:10.840 a lot of large building owners, it's 31% or more. 30:10.840 --> 30:15.000 So a tenant who takes, because then it's deemed occupied, but we're not talking about even 30:15.000 --> 30:20.520 doing 31% or more, because then you don't have to worry about this vacancy clause, because 30:20.520 --> 30:22.720 you're still occupied. 30:22.720 --> 30:27.760 And, you know, I mean, some people say, well, I'll just put 31% of an area and bring all 30:27.760 --> 30:29.440 my stuff from home and store it there. 30:29.520 --> 30:34.040 Again, you can play around with that, but in the end, it's best just to declare what 30:34.040 --> 30:36.640 you're going to do, because if you're not going to have people there, you don't want 30:36.640 --> 30:40.840 to go through all that hassle, we'll just win one battle at a time on these buildings. 30:40.840 --> 30:41.840 Okay. 30:41.840 --> 30:42.840 I appreciate that. 30:42.840 --> 30:43.840 Does any other... 30:43.840 --> 30:44.840 Yeah. 30:44.840 --> 30:45.840 Thanks, Tom. 30:45.840 --> 30:46.840 Thanks for coming here, Keith. 30:46.840 --> 30:47.840 It's very helpful. 30:47.840 --> 30:58.960 I think for the board, how do you feel like we've taken a special interest in it? 30:59.320 --> 31:05.200 We, as I'm speaking as a board, because these are majority actions, administration want 31:05.200 --> 31:09.520 to do certain things, the boards that know we're going to do these things, at some point 31:09.520 --> 31:15.760 we have to give Stephanie and Lee and everyone a clear direction that they run the buildings. 31:15.760 --> 31:17.440 It's not the board wants to do this. 31:17.440 --> 31:18.440 You guys have to do what's best. 31:18.440 --> 31:23.640 I mean, I don't want to hear from now someone complaining that we spent too much on an alliance 31:23.720 --> 31:28.160 bill, to heat a building, because it was cold winter, whatever. 31:28.160 --> 31:34.840 We need to really, the right time, whether it's at a full board meeting or just say that, 31:34.840 --> 31:38.840 hey, it's your job to do the buildings and we're not going to micromanage it. 31:38.840 --> 31:45.120 I do worry that we're a lot of what I hear is, well, what does the board want to do with 31:45.120 --> 31:46.120 Cunningham? 31:46.120 --> 31:47.680 What does the board want to do with Cunningham? 31:48.240 --> 31:53.040 Well, I get it that we got to make the call on what programs where we made that call and 31:53.040 --> 31:59.520 majority action happened in the middle of the summer, but at some point we have to then 31:59.520 --> 32:04.120 say, Stephanie and your team, we trust Jen, you know, go do what's best for the district. 32:04.120 --> 32:09.200 So I hope we can get to that sort of sense of the committee or the board at some point. 32:12.640 --> 32:13.640 Bill? 32:14.000 --> 32:16.480 Any more? 32:19.120 --> 32:25.440 OK, just said, just going back, this is all just back up, you know, I think it's 32:25.680 --> 32:28.240 true for all of us to kind of have a knowledge. 32:28.240 --> 32:29.160 No, it's really helpful. 32:29.160 --> 32:34.840 What, yeah, I mean, this isn't kind of, you serve anybody's authority over Stephanie's 32:34.840 --> 32:38.120 early as anybody, but to me, it's just good general knowledge. 32:38.120 --> 32:41.880 And because as we move forward, we're going to have more of this. 32:41.880 --> 32:46.200 Yeah, no, I'm not this is a really good conversation to have and it's good to have 32:46.200 --> 32:48.360 us as a committee have that information. 32:48.760 --> 32:53.480 But I want to make sure that we're right, you know, right, that's all a good, it's all a good 32:53.480 --> 32:55.160 spirit. OK, thank you. 32:55.440 --> 32:57.760 Anybody else have a question for the screws? 32:57.760 --> 32:58.600 Thank you for the time. 32:58.600 --> 32:59.360 Thank you. 32:59.360 --> 33:00.360 Thank you. 33:00.360 --> 33:01.200 Thank you. 33:01.200 --> 33:02.200 Very much. 33:02.200 --> 33:03.200 I know. 33:03.760 --> 33:05.240 I'm not going to keep the insurance away. 33:05.240 --> 33:06.720 I'm going to keep the insurance away. 33:07.920 --> 33:09.080 Oh, I think it's not real. 33:09.080 --> 33:09.600 I know. 33:09.600 --> 33:10.320 You did it right. 33:10.400 --> 33:11.080 I know. 33:11.560 --> 33:12.200 More time. 33:12.840 --> 33:13.800 Any calm, Dan. 33:17.040 --> 33:19.000 OK, so we're going to have two of them. 33:19.000 --> 33:19.360 Right. 33:19.360 --> 33:21.200 I think I need to stay right now. 33:21.760 --> 33:24.800 We'll move on to four of the budget update. 33:25.000 --> 33:26.000 Please miss out. 33:26.800 --> 33:32.920 So I did attach and board the presentation I had done a few weeks ago. 33:32.920 --> 33:38.760 And I wasn't sure if anybody had any questions regarding the budget because we do have to do. 33:41.320 --> 33:47.000 The preliminary budget and then a budget hearing coming up in the next month. 33:47.240 --> 33:52.080 And currently we are still sitting at the four hundred and. 33:52.920 --> 33:57.960 I think four hundred six four hundred eight dollars that we're short in the budget. 33:59.280 --> 34:03.760 And I wanted to open it up for conversation as to what the worst. 34:03.880 --> 34:15.400 Thoughts were on balancing the budget or meeting it as a doctor or balancing it with open dollars. 34:15.760 --> 34:21.840 We do have about three hundred and thirty thousand dollars that we put into the budget to cover the. 34:25.440 --> 34:26.560 Long Jovety. 34:26.560 --> 34:27.040 Thank you. 34:29.760 --> 34:32.360 Full on Jovety, but I wasn't sure where we were at. 34:32.600 --> 34:37.400 And with not having the the salary settled either. 34:37.840 --> 34:40.200 I wasn't sure where we were at with that as well. 34:40.480 --> 34:42.440 Currently had built in the budget, the. 34:44.160 --> 34:45.680 Cost of living increase, but. 34:47.160 --> 34:50.800 We could do something different with the cost of living increase as well. 34:50.800 --> 34:51.800 We could lower that. 34:51.800 --> 34:53.680 Well, what do you mean that settled. 34:55.160 --> 34:56.280 The salary and that settled. 34:57.280 --> 34:57.760 Correct. 34:57.760 --> 34:59.280 It hasn't been ratified. 34:59.280 --> 34:59.600 Right. 34:59.600 --> 35:00.920 Go ahead and put room. 35:01.120 --> 35:01.360 Yeah. 35:03.120 --> 35:09.400 So people winded right when the raises typically happened what month they typically start. 35:10.840 --> 35:16.240 Well, I don't know that there's a typical month, but preferably for payroll reasons. 35:16.520 --> 35:20.520 I would prefer to be done before December, preferably before November. 35:21.680 --> 35:25.320 But but there's negotiations that happen with the and. 35:26.840 --> 35:31.000 So if you want to do preliminary preliminary budget, they'll do it. 35:31.960 --> 35:34.760 So I'm talking about a schedule. 35:35.760 --> 35:36.760 I don't see. 35:37.840 --> 35:38.360 Yep. 35:38.360 --> 35:42.360 So normal years, we would do it much earlier than that. 35:42.360 --> 35:47.760 But currently I would like to get it scheduled for September 14th. 35:48.840 --> 35:50.640 For the preliminary budget approval. 35:51.480 --> 35:57.440 But if the board is not willing to approve the preliminary budget on September 14th, 35:57.440 --> 35:59.800 we may have to meet again to talk about. 36:00.320 --> 36:03.440 Getting that approved because the board does not approve a preliminary budget. 36:03.840 --> 36:05.360 We can't move on to the next step. 36:06.120 --> 36:10.960 And the next step is that budget hearing where we have the community meeting. 36:11.320 --> 36:16.240 And that has to be 15 days after it gets published in the newspaper. 36:16.240 --> 36:20.160 So we have the preliminary budget, you have to have it published and then you have the hearing. 36:20.160 --> 36:24.040 And then the budget has to be adopted by the board and the. 36:24.960 --> 36:29.040 Text lobby has to be adopted by the board before the end of October. 36:30.800 --> 36:36.160 I have a question for Dr. Malat, or Dr. Gordon. 36:36.160 --> 36:37.160 Yes, whatever. 36:37.160 --> 36:38.160 It's not. 36:38.160 --> 36:39.160 Yeah. 36:39.160 --> 36:45.080 So I went back like two or three months ago and Dr. Hson was still here in place. 36:45.080 --> 36:51.720 But you made a presentation on the budget and then that budget slides. 36:51.720 --> 36:56.920 You had these things and over here was a blue box, 36:56.920 --> 36:59.920 some kind of projected things we could do. 37:01.280 --> 37:09.000 My question to you is these items over here and we exhausted or have you excited? 37:09.000 --> 37:12.600 Those possibilities to lower that 400. 37:12.600 --> 37:15.600 Are we at a firm 400 or whatever it is? 37:16.800 --> 37:22.440 Out of limiting additional position, right, but there are some other items in that box, 37:23.440 --> 37:25.440 not items, positions. 37:25.440 --> 37:27.440 It was positioned. 37:27.440 --> 37:28.440 It's fast enough. 37:28.440 --> 37:29.440 Yeah. 37:29.440 --> 37:31.440 Eye of strength. 37:31.440 --> 37:32.440 Okay. 37:32.440 --> 37:33.440 Well, we can. 37:33.440 --> 37:34.440 We talked about legal. 37:34.440 --> 37:35.440 We talked about it. 37:35.440 --> 37:36.440 Yep. 37:36.440 --> 37:37.440 Yep. 37:37.440 --> 37:39.440 And those have been incorporated already. 37:39.440 --> 37:40.440 I'm sorry. 37:40.440 --> 37:41.440 I'm sorry. 37:41.440 --> 37:44.440 They're all included. 37:44.440 --> 37:47.440 We have the outside of the legal. 37:47.440 --> 37:48.440 Yeah. 37:48.440 --> 37:53.440 And that's a, that's a slippery slope too, right? 37:53.440 --> 37:57.440 We can estimate how much we're going to down sign there. 37:57.440 --> 37:58.440 Right. 37:58.440 --> 38:00.440 Back on something that we keep it down. 38:00.440 --> 38:02.440 But you say it's part of it. 38:02.440 --> 38:03.440 Yeah. 38:03.440 --> 38:05.440 Then it's not definite though. 38:05.440 --> 38:07.440 Depending on how the year shapes out, right? 38:07.440 --> 38:10.440 I mean, we're trying to keep things down as much as we can. 38:10.440 --> 38:13.440 Not common person, all the things. 38:13.440 --> 38:16.440 So definitely keeping things down as best as we can. 38:16.440 --> 38:17.440 Yeah. 38:17.440 --> 38:21.440 The other thing was Dr. Anderson talked about hiring our own person. 38:21.440 --> 38:22.440 Correct. 38:22.440 --> 38:25.440 So then we're now paying by the hour. 38:25.440 --> 38:26.440 Right. 38:26.440 --> 38:31.440 So we were down to $400,000 at least. 38:31.440 --> 38:33.440 We're still there. 38:33.440 --> 38:34.440 Correct. 38:34.440 --> 38:35.440 Correct. 38:35.440 --> 38:40.440 But at the last, from the last board meeting, we had talked about increasing the, um, 38:40.440 --> 38:43.440 SRO costs as well and putting that in the budget. 38:43.440 --> 38:45.440 So that would increase that for $400,000. 38:45.440 --> 38:49.440 Um, so I need to add that back in there as well. 38:49.440 --> 38:53.440 Um, it's probably another $150,000. 38:53.440 --> 38:58.440 I thought there was talk of four. 38:58.440 --> 38:59.440 Oh. 38:59.440 --> 39:00.440 Okay. 39:00.440 --> 39:01.440 Well. 39:01.440 --> 39:09.440 Everything that we add to the budget is another dollar that we have to cover. 39:09.440 --> 39:10.440 Yes. 39:10.440 --> 39:14.440 So, again, where are we? 39:14.440 --> 39:18.440 I mean, what is, what are we looking at? 39:18.440 --> 39:20.440 We are short $400,000. 39:20.440 --> 39:22.440 We're short $500,000. 39:22.440 --> 39:25.440 I mean, what are we short? 39:25.440 --> 39:30.440 I would say we're short probably five, closer to $500,000 with the SRO. 39:30.440 --> 39:36.440 If you add in the four FSOs that were bought up to the last board meeting. 39:36.440 --> 39:37.440 It was SRO. 39:37.440 --> 39:38.440 Okay. 39:38.440 --> 39:39.440 Yeah. 39:39.440 --> 39:40.440 Yeah. 39:40.440 --> 39:44.440 Because we didn't get the contract for the three Fs on the four S offices. 39:44.440 --> 39:46.440 Well, that was just a discussion. 39:46.440 --> 39:47.440 It was a decision, right? 39:47.440 --> 39:48.440 Yes. 39:48.440 --> 39:50.440 They really didn't decide to do that. 39:50.440 --> 39:51.440 Yes. 39:51.440 --> 39:52.440 How about revenues? 39:52.440 --> 39:58.440 Are we looking for, I mean, I know we've had, sorry, a mistake of the question, but is there 39:58.440 --> 40:03.440 any outstanding revenues that we're still trying to track into the district? 40:03.440 --> 40:05.440 Four of the budget for $26.27. 40:05.440 --> 40:06.440 Yes. 40:06.440 --> 40:11.440 No, I added in the sale of the right building because we know what that is. 40:11.440 --> 40:12.440 Yes. 40:12.440 --> 40:14.440 And hopefully, I mean, we're still at it. 40:14.440 --> 40:15.440 We're on that pastel. 40:15.440 --> 40:22.440 Other things that we add in, but, or we can add in, but are not definitive are, are sales 40:22.440 --> 40:27.440 of equipment and things, but we have a number in there, but I hate, I don't want to increase 40:27.440 --> 40:29.440 that number because you're never quite sure. 40:29.440 --> 40:30.440 Right. 40:30.440 --> 40:33.440 If we do get those revenues, that's wonderful, but those are kind of soft revenues. 40:34.440 --> 40:36.440 Put those on, I don't know. 40:36.440 --> 40:41.440 And we don't have anything in, you've authorized the sale of this building, but we don't have 40:41.440 --> 40:44.440 anything budgeted in this budget for that. 40:44.440 --> 40:50.440 Correct, because that's, again, that's not an unknown, and that would be a huge unknown. 40:50.440 --> 40:58.440 To hinge the budget of expenditures on sale of the building is probably not, yes. 40:58.440 --> 40:59.440 Thank you. 41:00.440 --> 41:02.440 So, going back, sorry. 41:02.440 --> 41:07.440 Can I go to just sit down there, that goes in back into the 150? 41:07.440 --> 41:08.440 Which, yes. 41:08.440 --> 41:13.440 So, if we truck or cough has to go into fund 50, they can only be used for food service. 41:13.440 --> 41:14.440 Correct. 41:14.440 --> 41:19.440 We've authorized the marketing of this building. 41:19.440 --> 41:26.440 Is that sale, commercial sale could occur between now and June 30th in your opinion? 41:26.440 --> 41:28.440 In my opinion, no. 41:28.440 --> 41:34.440 We did meet with Mike Marquette, and it's really hard to gauge the market. 41:34.440 --> 41:36.440 And, you can back me up on this one. 41:36.440 --> 41:39.440 It's really hard to gauge the market on a commercial building. 41:39.440 --> 41:45.440 You could have an immediate sale because somebody is looking for this property, but it could 41:45.440 --> 41:47.440 take years to sell this property as well. 41:47.440 --> 41:53.440 And that's not something that Mike was, I'm sorry, Mr. Marquette was willing to say, yes, 41:53.440 --> 41:56.440 this is going to happen or no, this isn't going to happen. 41:56.440 --> 42:01.440 It's hard to put a figure on. 42:01.440 --> 42:03.440 So, you have to step back. 42:03.440 --> 42:07.440 The sale of the right building, you're already including it as it's sold. 42:07.440 --> 42:08.440 Correct. 42:08.440 --> 42:09.440 Yes. 42:09.440 --> 42:10.440 Correct. 42:10.440 --> 42:11.440 It has not closed yet. 42:11.440 --> 42:12.440 No. 42:12.440 --> 42:13.440 But it's putting that. 42:13.440 --> 42:15.440 I mean, I don't know what's still out there. 42:15.440 --> 42:18.440 I know they're doing the utility stuff. 42:18.440 --> 42:19.440 Yeah. 42:19.440 --> 42:22.440 I think they just had some engineering things that were. 42:23.440 --> 42:24.440 Yes. 42:24.440 --> 42:27.440 And one of them is being available. 42:27.440 --> 42:28.440 October? 42:28.440 --> 42:33.440 At the closing of the schedule for October and October. 42:33.440 --> 42:34.440 Okay. 42:34.440 --> 42:35.440 Yes. 42:35.440 --> 42:45.440 So, Leo or Stephanie, can you give us an overview of how the house salary negotiations were 42:45.440 --> 42:51.440 with PEA and when they typically go into effect, I just don't know how this works. 42:51.440 --> 42:55.440 I don't even remember where we left off with salary negotiations with Dr. Anderson. 42:55.440 --> 43:01.440 So, we are actually meeting with PEA on Thursday to talk about that. 43:01.440 --> 43:05.440 So, PEA and with HR and myself. 43:05.440 --> 43:09.440 So, it was kind of all over the place. 43:09.440 --> 43:12.440 So, last week, we talked about it with PEA. 43:12.440 --> 43:15.440 And there were different numbers that had been thrown out. 43:16.440 --> 43:23.440 One of the slides that I was pulling up from the June 23rd presentation was different salaries. 43:23.440 --> 43:31.440 I thought that are there for what we could be getting gassed and raised distribution by 43:31.440 --> 43:32.440 group. 43:32.440 --> 43:34.440 So, it's what the slide is called. 43:34.440 --> 43:41.440 So, you know, I just recently, two of you liked me too, just as a slide as a kind of a 43:41.440 --> 43:45.440 Skype host, but we need to speak with PEA and all that again. 43:45.440 --> 43:49.440 And it's where we are, where Dr. Anderson left off with the slides. 43:49.440 --> 43:54.440 And honestly, we need to know that how much it is. 43:54.440 --> 44:00.440 So, when Bill and I got here, you guys had done a budget resolution or something that Carol 44:00.440 --> 44:01.440 I think is the author of. 44:01.440 --> 44:05.440 That was clear that there was going to be raises and we protected them. 44:05.440 --> 44:09.440 That was, we hadn't done that before we proceeded as board members. 44:10.440 --> 44:15.440 And then, so everyone in the district is working under last year's salaries right now. 44:15.440 --> 44:18.440 So, other bi-weekly salaries are paycheck. 44:18.440 --> 44:20.440 They are getting the same amount. 44:20.440 --> 44:23.440 They didn't get raises at the start of the fiscal year. 44:23.440 --> 44:30.440 And do they, in a typical year where they have typically raises occur at the start of the 44:30.440 --> 44:31.440 school year or? 44:31.440 --> 44:32.440 No. 44:32.440 --> 44:33.440 No. 44:33.440 --> 44:34.440 No. 44:34.440 --> 44:39.440 It's not unusual to do back pay after the salary term settled. 44:39.440 --> 44:40.440 Okay. 44:40.440 --> 44:49.440 So, if we are giving, if a teacher, a 12-year experience, whatever lane, whatever, is to 44:49.440 --> 44:55.440 do a raise and you finish negotiations in the past as part of the budget, everything, they 44:55.440 --> 44:57.440 will get their full years. 44:57.440 --> 44:58.440 Okay. 44:58.440 --> 44:59.440 Yeah. 44:59.440 --> 45:00.440 They will get in their adjustment. 45:00.440 --> 45:01.440 Yeah. 45:01.440 --> 45:02.440 Thank you. 45:02.440 --> 45:03.440 Yeah. 45:03.440 --> 45:04.440 Good question. 45:04.440 --> 45:05.440 Yeah. 45:05.440 --> 45:06.440 Thank you. 45:06.440 --> 45:08.440 So, I'm sorry. 45:08.440 --> 45:09.440 Are you on? 45:09.440 --> 45:10.440 Yes, I am. 45:10.440 --> 45:15.440 Can you hear me? 45:15.440 --> 45:17.440 Can you hear me, Tom? 45:17.440 --> 45:18.440 What? 45:18.440 --> 45:28.440 The 400,000 deficit right now that we have for the 26, 27 budget, does that include the 45:28.440 --> 45:36.440 360,000 telephone software upgrade? 45:36.440 --> 45:38.440 It includes the majority of it. 45:38.440 --> 45:43.440 There was probably about 200 and a little over 200,000 that's in the technology budget that 45:43.440 --> 45:45.440 could cover the majority of it. 45:45.440 --> 45:51.440 We're still talking with our vendor on the telephone upgrade and we're still trying to 45:51.440 --> 45:56.440 work through some of those costs so that most of it will be covered by what we currently 45:56.440 --> 45:58.440 have budgeted, but yes, you're correct. 45:58.440 --> 46:03.440 Then we will have to find more dollars to cover that depending on which way we're going 46:03.440 --> 46:05.440 to go with that. 46:05.440 --> 46:07.440 Thank you. 46:07.440 --> 46:10.440 So Stephanie, that would be hard. 46:10.440 --> 46:12.440 We're going to be short. 46:12.440 --> 46:16.440 We're going to need another 100 whatever it is. 46:16.440 --> 46:17.440 Yes. 46:17.440 --> 46:21.440 Depending on what happens with technology or we'll have to cut something else to cover it. 46:21.440 --> 46:22.440 Yes. 46:22.440 --> 46:25.440 And will that bill be due? 46:25.440 --> 46:27.440 He's been working on it. 46:27.440 --> 46:29.440 I'm not sure when the deadline is. 46:29.440 --> 46:32.440 It will be part of the 26, 27 budget. 46:32.440 --> 46:35.440 Yes, because my tell, I think there's service. 46:35.440 --> 46:39.440 I don't have the date in front of me, but it was coming up in the next few months where 46:39.440 --> 46:43.440 they were going to have security issues with the phone system. 46:43.440 --> 46:47.440 So we're going from 400 to 560 or whatever. 46:47.440 --> 46:48.440 Correct. 46:48.440 --> 46:50.440 Well, we've been briefed once and we've been briefed once. 46:50.440 --> 46:53.440 You were going to come back to this committee when you have more. 46:53.440 --> 46:54.440 Yes. 46:54.440 --> 46:56.440 And we're going to save the artist. 46:56.440 --> 46:58.440 The budget went from 400. 46:58.440 --> 47:00.440 And we're now at 560. 47:00.440 --> 47:02.440 Presently. 47:02.440 --> 47:05.440 I see that this book is right now. 47:05.440 --> 47:09.440 Yeah, I don't think we've heard definitively that we're going to be having got all the 47:09.440 --> 47:11.440 questions answered on the phone. 47:11.440 --> 47:12.440 Yeah. 47:12.440 --> 47:14.440 There's a lot of work to go back. 47:14.440 --> 47:15.440 Yeah. 47:15.440 --> 47:16.440 Megan. 47:16.440 --> 47:17.440 Sorry, Megan. 47:17.440 --> 47:19.440 Well, you're fine. 47:19.440 --> 47:20.440 Can you hear me? 47:20.440 --> 47:21.440 Okay. 47:21.440 --> 47:22.440 Yes. 47:23.440 --> 47:24.440 Awesome. 47:24.440 --> 47:25.440 Just a clarifying question. 47:25.440 --> 47:28.440 I'm not sure I was really following like the BEA comment. 47:28.440 --> 47:37.440 So I know like I was able to like attend remotely a discussion with the BEA as like the board 47:37.440 --> 47:38.440 wrap. 47:38.440 --> 47:43.440 So I guess just if I could just seek some additional clarification because I thought we had sort 47:43.440 --> 47:47.440 of reached like an understanding or at least something to bring back to the board. 47:48.440 --> 47:53.440 No, it hasn't been ratified yet. 47:53.440 --> 47:56.440 No, yeah, it hasn't been ratified, but I guess what. 47:56.440 --> 48:02.440 So did I hear you say that there were like multiple because like I remember that part of the meeting being extremely brief. 48:02.440 --> 48:13.440 So is there is that something we're like we had the discussion with the E and now like figures have changed with the budget and administration is working something out to then bring back. 48:14.440 --> 48:17.440 Oh, I have not talked about. 48:17.440 --> 48:25.440 So we had at the request of BEA we had provided two separate calculations. 48:25.440 --> 48:31.440 If it was a straight road increase versus. 48:32.440 --> 48:46.440 And so I think at that subsequent meeting the discussion was about where they were at with that, but it was not it was not ratified ready to come to the board for approval is my recollection. 48:46.440 --> 48:48.440 No, that makes sense. 48:48.440 --> 48:49.440 Okay. 48:49.440 --> 48:51.440 And then so when can we expect an update on that? 48:51.440 --> 48:52.440 I'm sorry. 48:52.440 --> 48:55.440 So we're meeting with the third day. 48:55.440 --> 48:58.440 So we should be able to provide you with an update in our meeting. 48:59.440 --> 49:02.440 Okay, perfect. Thank you so much for clarifying. I really appreciate it. 49:03.440 --> 49:06.440 Thank you. Any other committee members? 49:07.440 --> 49:09.440 Yeah, from the state. 49:09.440 --> 49:13.440 Just July one. We've got the preliminary estimate. 49:13.440 --> 49:19.440 For equalization and estimates. Yes, and our budgeted estimate was very close to the state. 49:20.440 --> 49:22.440 July one estimate. Okay. 49:22.440 --> 49:29.440 So there was no like increase and the two million dollars they were talking about about the increase they were talking about from previous year. 49:30.440 --> 49:35.440 Twenty five twenty six to twenty six twenty seven. Not budgeted number. 49:35.440 --> 49:36.440 Yeah. 49:37.440 --> 49:38.440 More members. 49:38.440 --> 49:39.440 Anybody else have a question? 49:41.440 --> 49:42.440 No. 49:42.440 --> 49:44.440 Okay. I look for approval to. 49:47.440 --> 49:48.440 I'm sorry. 49:48.440 --> 49:51.440 There's no more questions for people. It was just a discussion. 49:52.440 --> 49:53.440 All right. 49:53.440 --> 49:57.440 We'll go into four C please. 49:59.440 --> 50:02.440 Discussion on selling district assets. 50:03.440 --> 50:11.440 So Mr. Hincans, you would ask me to add that to the agenda tonight and I did add in. 50:12.440 --> 50:22.440 Add in the more policy regarding the sale of assets. If anyone wanted to review that as well. 50:23.440 --> 50:29.440 We do have in the works a number of things on the list to do another auction with, including the food truck. 50:30.440 --> 50:37.440 A fifteen passenger van and I think there's some other miscellaneous stuff in the building that they're not looking at doing. 50:38.440 --> 50:41.440 Well, for number one, I think you have that. 50:42.440 --> 50:46.440 I know the food truck goes back into $50. How about the passenger van? 50:47.440 --> 50:50.440 So the passenger van is a general fund purchase. 50:51.440 --> 50:58.440 And what we'd like to do is probably come back to the board and then ask to purchase another minivan. 50:59.440 --> 51:03.440 Our transportation costs are pretty high. And if we have minivans in house. 51:04.440 --> 51:07.440 And we're not having to get a full bus when they have less children. 51:08.440 --> 51:11.440 And those work out pretty well. They're used really quite often. 51:12.440 --> 51:14.440 And I think. Oh, sorry. 51:15.440 --> 51:21.440 And those were purchased three and a half years ago and they were purchased used. 51:22.440 --> 51:27.440 So, you know, we'll need to look at probably another two years with placement noise as well. 51:28.440 --> 51:35.440 I know we approved the purchase of a almost van a couple months ago and I see it sit out there. 51:36.440 --> 51:38.440 And I just want to put a little screw again. 51:39.440 --> 51:45.440 And how much grade is involved with these buses that we buy or vans that we buy? 51:46.440 --> 51:52.440 So the minivans that are controlled by business services are maintained by our facilities department. 51:52.440 --> 51:57.440 So we have a regular schedule of real changes, you know, break checks, maintenance, those types of things that are done there. 51:58.440 --> 52:03.440 And they believe that they will also work with people services on the vehicles that they have as well. 52:04.440 --> 52:06.440 And then the who's driving them. 52:07.440 --> 52:15.440 We have employees that are only driving them and they have a process that they have to go through to get the approved lifts to drive those vehicles. 52:16.440 --> 52:18.440 We don't let parents drive the vehicles or students drive the vehicle. 52:18.440 --> 52:24.440 But there's an approved lift of, and we have a back on track and driver track that happens with those. 52:25.440 --> 52:29.440 And that goes for athletic vehicles also. Are they in the same domain? 52:30.440 --> 52:38.440 Correct. So on the too many of them that we have are used probably 80% of the time is by a vehicle to fertilize them. 52:39.440 --> 52:48.440 And there are these people that drive drivers and be considered employees of the district? 52:49.440 --> 52:55.440 They're all employees. They just do that so they have people that their own coaches probably can drive what they have. 52:56.440 --> 52:57.440 Sorry, yes, let me clarify. 52:58.440 --> 53:06.440 So if there's a field trip and the teacher is on driving, but the teacher has gone through the process previous to get approved to drive. 53:06.440 --> 53:10.440 And if the coach is going to a game, then the coaches are driving, yes. 53:11.440 --> 53:16.440 And going back to the homeless man, I'm sorry, could that take us? That's why I remember being presented. 53:17.440 --> 53:22.440 So this person, where does that person come from? To drive the van? 53:23.440 --> 53:26.440 And where do they pick up people and how is that all instituted? 53:27.440 --> 53:28.440 Yep, a lot must be there to speak about. 53:29.440 --> 53:40.440 So historically, I'll just use what we did last year. We have a van parked at the LA and they have a system set up where the school secretary was in a final procedure. 53:41.440 --> 53:51.440 And they were picking up students who needed right towards several homeless families who needed right to meet typically the social worker in the building. 53:52.440 --> 53:55.440 So is this mostly BLA students? 53:56.440 --> 53:57.440 That van was. 53:58.440 --> 53:59.440 This is the one, the same thing. 54:00.440 --> 54:01.440 We're making a determination of two years. 54:02.440 --> 54:03.440 Okay, thank you. 54:05.440 --> 54:07.440 Do I remember correctly when you were at a policy about? 54:08.440 --> 54:11.440 Yes, I have a policy I'm working on to bring it back to you. 54:12.440 --> 54:13.440 There's something fifty something else. 54:14.440 --> 54:20.440 And we already do the process, but we just don't are lacking the policy to go with it. 54:21.440 --> 54:22.440 Yes. 54:24.440 --> 54:26.440 Whenever the van was built, it would be fill there. 54:27.440 --> 54:28.440 Yeah, near them. 54:29.440 --> 54:30.440 What's it being used for? 54:31.440 --> 54:32.440 Oh, I'm going to do that. 54:32.440 --> 54:34.440 So we have two hands for almost two phones? 54:35.440 --> 54:41.440 So those two vehicles were purchased with grant funds that specify the use of those vehicles. 54:42.440 --> 54:43.440 I understand that. 54:43.440 --> 54:54.440 I just want to learn about usage and make sure that to me that doubles even details on maintenance, people driving it, that's all cost driven. 54:55.440 --> 54:56.440 I understand the need and stuff. 54:57.440 --> 54:58.440 I just want to make sure. 54:58.440 --> 55:10.440 And the people that are driving the vehicle, that for the home of the two vans, they also go through that same check with through our office to make sure that they don't have a decent driving record. 55:11.440 --> 55:12.440 And insurance all that. 55:19.440 --> 55:25.440 So if we didn't have those vans, then we would be utilizing small buses, taxis. 55:28.440 --> 55:29.440 Yeah. 55:29.440 --> 55:33.440 Or having a risk of non-personation. 55:33.440 --> 55:34.440 Right. 55:34.440 --> 55:43.440 Well, which also falls back on us because if their classified as McKinney-Vento, then it is our responsibility to make sure that they get to school, correct? 55:43.440 --> 55:44.440 Yeah. 55:44.440 --> 55:45.440 I'm sorry. 55:45.440 --> 55:46.440 I was just like non-personation. 55:46.440 --> 55:47.440 My parents. 55:47.440 --> 55:48.440 Oh, okay. 55:48.440 --> 55:49.440 All right. 55:49.440 --> 55:50.440 Yes. 55:51.440 --> 55:52.440 Okay. Thank you. 55:52.440 --> 55:53.440 Anybody else? 55:53.440 --> 55:54.440 Questions? 55:54.440 --> 55:55.440 All right. 55:55.440 --> 55:56.440 Thank you very much. 55:56.440 --> 55:57.440 Five. 55:57.440 --> 55:58.440 Three. 55:58.440 --> 55:59.440 Are you stupid? 55:59.440 --> 56:00.440 Eight. 56:04.440 --> 56:05.440 Yes. 56:05.440 --> 56:06.440 Sir. 56:06.440 --> 56:07.440 Please. 56:07.440 --> 56:08.440 Absolutely. 56:08.440 --> 56:09.440 So I did. 56:09.440 --> 56:22.440 I did share with the board present today the status of our vacancies, but as far as exhibit A is concerned. 56:23.440 --> 56:24.440 Nothing. 56:24.440 --> 56:36.440 Just business as usual, a lot of movement because of programs and individuals like her professionals being moved buildings due to IEP minutes needing to be met. 56:36.440 --> 56:43.440 We are excited to have an AP over at Prusen, which is one of our own, Dolly's city. 56:43.440 --> 56:51.440 She had been at Todd as a dean prior to this opportunity. 56:51.440 --> 57:10.440 We also have had the opportunity to bring in Crystal Silva from family advocate at the high school to actually take in a role here at Keck as our vital family outreach specialist. 57:11.440 --> 57:18.440 We have filled all but one of our dean of students positions at this point. 57:18.440 --> 57:23.440 So you see a couple of those that have done other one of our own this Kelly Redmond. 57:23.440 --> 57:30.440 So we do have a lot of internal opportunities that have been taken on. 57:31.440 --> 57:36.440 And as far as the resignation, nothing out of the ordinary. 57:36.440 --> 57:43.440 Unfortunately, we have had some directly before the start of the new year resignation. 57:43.440 --> 57:51.440 And that is unfortunate because open house and the need for having consistency. 57:52.440 --> 58:02.440 But we do not put them on the exhibit A until they have paid the $3,000 liquidated damages fees that correspond to the contract. 58:02.440 --> 58:16.440 So any of the staff and you may see some an upcoming exhibit A because we don't post them until they have to take the liquidated damages. 58:17.440 --> 58:23.440 So that's the only thing of relevance really that stands out from this exhibit A unless the board has. 58:23.440 --> 58:27.440 Where is the vacancy? The students vacancy still? 58:27.440 --> 58:28.440 So what? 58:28.440 --> 58:31.440 You said that we have all a dean of students filled except one. 58:31.440 --> 58:32.440 Where is that? 58:32.440 --> 58:35.440 Well Todd now because of Dolly's promotion. 58:35.440 --> 58:39.440 I see Mr. Lofton is going to Robinson. 58:39.440 --> 58:40.440 Yes. 58:40.440 --> 58:41.440 That is very exciting. 58:42.440 --> 58:45.440 And does that mean Mr. Williams is really retired this time? 58:45.440 --> 58:46.440 I'm serious. 58:46.440 --> 58:47.440 For like the fourth time. 58:47.440 --> 58:48.440 Right. 58:48.440 --> 58:49.440 Right. 58:49.440 --> 58:57.440 Just to put a little spit on us and then you nicely broke this down for us from the other side of the coin. 58:57.440 --> 59:05.440 We have this many openings in the district and we are now down to this man rather than saying we have this many vacancies. 59:05.440 --> 59:06.440 But he had it the other way. 59:06.440 --> 59:10.440 Could you summarize the snacks that he gave to us? 59:11.440 --> 59:13.440 Sherry if we are able to. 59:13.440 --> 59:15.440 I mean just a don't know. 59:15.440 --> 59:16.440 Yes. 59:16.440 --> 59:27.440 So I think the important thing at the last board meeting was making sure that when we talk about the number of vacancies that we also understand a total number of SCE. 59:27.440 --> 59:31.440 Of course one vacancy is one vacancy too many. 59:31.440 --> 59:39.440 But when I did share the number of vacancies last time without the context it seems a lot more astronomical than it truly is. 59:40.440 --> 59:49.440 So based on the total number of SCEs that we have currently our vacancy, our true vacancy rate is 10.8%. 59:49.440 --> 59:59.440 That does factor in the 58 positions that we currently have across the district from our third party staffing agency. 59:59.440 --> 01:00:00.440 Okay. 01:00:00.440 --> 01:00:01.440 Thank you. 01:00:01.440 --> 01:00:03.440 Anybody have any more questions? 01:00:03.440 --> 01:00:04.440 I do. 01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:06.440 I'm sorry. 01:00:06.440 --> 01:00:07.440 I'm looking at that. 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:13.440 So we have 58 third party is the 72 and the 58 are part of that. 01:00:13.440 --> 01:00:19.440 So the 72 the 58 is removed from hold on. 01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:22.440 I'll give you the hold count here and make sure I'm giving you the right numbers. 01:00:22.440 --> 01:00:31.440 So the 72.7 is the actual vacancy from the excluding the 58 contracted staff. 01:00:31.440 --> 01:00:33.440 So that's our true number of vacancies. 01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:35.440 Okay. 01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:39.440 So we're at 19% vacancies really actually. 01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:44.440 19% of our staffing needs to be hired. 01:00:44.440 --> 01:00:45.440 Okay. 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:46.440 Correct. 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:51.440 However, not all of those classrooms or what not are empty because we do have to differentiate in there. 01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:52.440 Yes. 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:53.440 Okay. 01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:54.440 Thank you. 01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:55.440 Anybody else? 01:00:55.440 --> 01:01:00.440 So I want to give you a voice to my tremendous support. 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.440 I just have one more thing. 01:01:02.440 --> 01:01:03.440 I'm sorry. 01:01:03.440 --> 01:01:04.440 Go ahead. 01:01:04.440 --> 01:01:05.440 Okay. 01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:06.440 Do we move? 01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:07.440 No. 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:08.440 I just second. 01:01:08.440 --> 01:01:09.440 Okay. 01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:19.440 So we've seen a lot of retirement resignations since last spring. 01:01:19.440 --> 01:01:29.440 Do we need to formally request the exit interviews or how does the board get access to the exit 01:01:29.440 --> 01:01:30.440 interviews? 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:32.440 Okay. 01:01:32.440 --> 01:01:33.440 Thank you. 01:01:33.440 --> 01:01:34.440 Thank you. 01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:35.440 Anybody else? 01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:36.440 Any discussion? 01:01:36.440 --> 01:01:37.440 Okay. 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:40.440 We have moved and seconded to move this to the full board. 01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:42.440 All those are the papers. 01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:43.440 Say aye. 01:01:43.440 --> 01:01:44.440 Aye. 01:01:44.440 --> 01:01:45.440 Any post? 01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:46.440 Or can you hear me? 01:01:46.440 --> 01:01:47.440 No. 01:01:47.440 --> 01:01:48.440 No. 01:01:48.440 --> 01:01:49.440 No. 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:50.440 No. 01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:51.440 No. 01:01:51.440 --> 01:01:52.440 No. 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:53.440 No. 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:54.440 No. 01:01:54.440 --> 01:01:55.440 No. 01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:56.440 No. 01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:57.440 No. 01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:58.440 No. 01:01:58.800 --> 01:01:59.440 Aye. 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:00.440 Leskowski. 01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:01.440 No. 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:02.440 No. 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:03.440 No. 01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:04.400 No. 01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:05.380 No. 01:02:05.380 --> 01:02:06.380 No. 01:02:06.380 --> 01:02:07.380 No. 01:02:07.380 --> 01:02:08.380 No. 01:02:08.380 --> 01:02:09.380 No. 01:02:09.380 --> 01:02:10.380 No. 01:02:10.380 --> 01:02:11.380 No. 01:02:11.380 --> 01:02:12.380 No. 01:02:12.380 --> 01:02:13.380 No. 01:02:13.380 --> 01:02:14.380 Oh. 01:02:14.380 --> 01:02:15.380 Sorry. 01:02:15.380 --> 01:02:16.420 Oh. 01:02:16.420 --> 01:02:17.420 Yeah. 01:02:17.420 --> 01:02:18.420 Don't. 01:02:18.420 --> 01:02:23.060 You made it onto your ahead. 01:02:23.060 --> 01:02:26.760 What message do you want? 01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:28.100 How would you do it for me to start? 01:02:28.100 --> 01:02:40.600 So, moving our meetings to 4.30, the committees would be, I mean the staff is here, we started 01:02:40.600 --> 01:02:49.880 4.30, we're not crowding TLA too much, and say, tonight we're running over and I told 01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:56.880 that we probably would be, but if I think it removes 4.30, it might be a little bit easier, 01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:00.880 but I'm asking if I know that's fine people. 01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:07.880 I'm still going to be here at 4.30, then we're going to stretch it. So, like, really and truly, 01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:14.880 it doesn't matter if your meeting ends at, so if we start at 4.30, it doesn't matter if you're 01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:20.880 meeting ends at 5, 5.36, if it's a really crazy long meeting and goes to 7, then my meeting 01:03:20.880 --> 01:03:27.880 just goes after it. And there is nothing, you don't even need to say, this one's going to go longer 01:03:27.880 --> 01:03:33.880 than 30 minutes, because my assumption is that most of the time it will, but the reason why we 01:03:33.880 --> 01:03:38.880 scheduled them so close to each other is because on those rare occurrences where they were 01:03:38.880 --> 01:03:44.880 fast meeting, then we're not all sitting around fiddling their thumbs for 20, 30 minutes. 01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:50.880 And a little bit of my comeback on that, and I agree with you. 01:03:50.880 --> 01:03:56.880 The 4.30 thing, we have a administration here, we take another day to be here, that's start at 5, 01:03:56.880 --> 01:04:00.880 and if we start at 4.30, it might make their day a little bit less cumbersome than that much, 01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:05.880 but can we still list TLA-5 then, even though we probably start at 5.30? 01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:10.880 I don't understand what that means, but what I've been asking is if the data bill can be the 4.30. 01:04:10.880 --> 01:04:11.880 Yeah, it's on asking. 01:04:11.880 --> 01:04:12.880 Yeah. 01:04:12.880 --> 01:04:16.880 Well, we do want all the work, and that's the other side. 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:18.880 All the work that we do is as much as possible, too. 01:04:18.880 --> 01:04:19.880 Yes. 01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:20.880 Yes. 01:04:20.880 --> 01:04:21.880 Yeah. 01:04:21.880 --> 01:04:22.880 Yeah. 01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:24.880 Point of order. 01:04:24.880 --> 01:04:27.880 This is not on the agenda. 01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:29.880 All right. 01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:32.880 She's a adjourned first. 01:04:32.880 --> 01:04:33.880 Wait, wait, wait. 01:04:33.880 --> 01:04:36.880 What is the next meeting date and time? 01:04:36.880 --> 01:04:37.880 Yeah. 01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:39.880 Wouldn't that be part of that? 01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:42.880 Well, let me ask that person. 01:04:42.880 --> 01:04:43.880 Do it. 01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:45.880 I have that meeting at 4.30. 01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:46.880 Do it. 01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:47.880 Do it. 01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:48.880 Yes. 01:04:48.880 --> 01:04:49.880 Next meeting is at 4.30. 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:50.880 Yeah. 01:04:50.880 --> 01:04:54.880 So, is that a Wilshire? 01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:56.880 Dan? 01:04:56.880 --> 01:04:57.880 Uh, yep. 01:04:57.880 --> 01:04:59.880 I'll move adjourned. 01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:02.880 All those be reversed. 01:05:02.880 --> 01:05:05.880 I'll stay once you carry it. 01:05:05.880 --> 01:05:06.880 Thank you. 01:05:06.880 --> 01:05:07.880 Give me a turn. 01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:08.880 Good. 01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:09.880 Good meeting time. 01:05:09.880 --> 01:05:12.880 Do we want five minutes before we start the next one? 01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:13.880 Are people learning to dive in? 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:15.880 I think some heads are nodding yet. 01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.880 So we'll start at 6.11. 01:05:18.880 --> 01:05:21.880 That's the whole thing. 01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.880 Are you going to need 12, 6, 15? 01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:25.880 I'm okay either way. 01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:28.880 Oh, good. Whatever. Six eleven is fine. 01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:29.880 Okay. 01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.880 I'm going to fix the eleven then. 01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:34.880 Quick stretch break. 01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:36.880 Hey, Joe. 01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:38.880 I see Megan's name. 01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:40.880 Megan's joining us. 01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:42.880 She's just going to. 01:05:42.880 --> 01:05:44.880 Okay. 01:05:44.880 --> 01:05:45.880 Well, sorry. 01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:46.880 I just wanted to be home. 01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:49.880 My kids have school their first day at like all three of them tomorrow. 01:05:49.880 --> 01:05:52.880 And it's just a little less anxiety, crazy stuff. 01:05:52.880 --> 01:05:53.880 I've been here. 01:05:54.880 --> 01:05:55.880 I remember that. 01:05:55.880 --> 01:05:56.880 So. 01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:57.880 And here. 01:05:57.880 --> 01:05:58.880 He's coming. 01:05:58.880 --> 01:05:59.880 Sorry. 01:05:59.880 --> 01:06:00.880 He's coming. 01:06:00.880 --> 01:06:01.880 Sorry. 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:02.880 He's in. 01:06:02.880 --> 01:06:03.880 He's in. 01:06:03.880 --> 01:06:04.880 He's coming. 01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:05.880 Sorry. 01:06:05.880 --> 01:06:06.880 He's in. 01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:07.880 Yeah. 01:06:07.880 --> 01:06:08.880 I'm. 01:06:08.880 --> 01:06:09.880 Yeah. 01:06:09.880 --> 01:06:10.880 She. 01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:11.880 Oh, we have a discussion. 01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:12.880 We have a discussion. 01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:13.880 Oh. 01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:14.880 We have. 01:06:14.880 --> 01:06:15.880 Oh. 01:06:15.880 --> 01:06:16.880 We have. 01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:17.880 We have. 01:06:17.880 --> 01:06:18.880 Oh, we have. 01:06:18.880 --> 01:06:19.880 Oh. 01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:20.880 Oh, no. 01:06:50.880 --> 01:06:54.880 I don't care if anyone says they're bringing a problem. 01:06:54.880 --> 01:06:56.880 We're not going to make it a curve. 01:06:56.880 --> 01:06:57.880 Right. 01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:59.880 If you want to make it that way, 01:06:59.880 --> 01:07:01.880 there's anyone who's talking to you. 01:07:01.880 --> 01:07:02.880 What's wrong? 01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:03.880 I don't know. 01:07:03.880 --> 01:07:04.880 I don't know. 01:07:04.880 --> 01:07:05.880 I don't know. 01:07:05.880 --> 01:07:06.880 I don't know. 01:07:06.880 --> 01:07:07.880 I don't know. 01:07:07.880 --> 01:07:08.880 I don't know. 01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:09.880 I don't know. 01:07:09.880 --> 01:07:10.880 I don't know. 01:07:10.880 --> 01:07:11.880 I don't know. 01:07:11.880 --> 01:07:12.880 I don't know. 01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:13.880 I don't know. 01:07:13.880 --> 01:07:14.880 I don't know. 01:07:14.880 --> 01:07:15.880 I don't know. 01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:16.880 I don't know. 01:07:16.880 --> 01:07:17.880 I don't know. 01:07:17.880 --> 01:07:18.880 I don't know. 01:07:18.880 --> 01:07:20.420 I don't know. 01:07:20.420 --> 01:07:21.500 I don't know. 01:07:21.500 --> 01:07:22.860 I don't know. 01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:23.880 I don't know. 01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:46.900 Dear,... 01:07:46.900 --> 01:07:48.900 I don't really get to defend that doctor. 01:07:48.900 --> 01:07:50.900 It's half a goat, it's shit. 01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:52.900 It's really better. 01:07:52.900 --> 01:07:54.900 I'm going to get her here. 01:07:54.900 --> 01:07:56.900 And it's coming up. 01:07:56.900 --> 01:07:58.900 We've got two weeks now. 01:07:58.900 --> 01:08:00.900 They're better. 01:08:00.900 --> 01:08:02.900 They're better. 01:08:02.900 --> 01:08:04.900 That's what I'm talking about. 01:08:04.900 --> 01:08:06.900 I know. 01:08:06.900 --> 01:08:08.900 I got it back. 01:08:08.900 --> 01:08:10.900 That's right. 01:08:10.900 --> 01:08:12.900 I remember back in the day with FISL. 01:08:12.900 --> 01:08:14.900 I think you went out to see that. 01:08:14.900 --> 01:08:16.900 You say? 01:08:16.900 --> 01:08:18.900 That's right. 01:08:18.900 --> 01:08:20.900 He used to hang them on the head on the ground. 01:08:20.900 --> 01:08:22.900 Why? 01:08:22.900 --> 01:08:24.900 He's back that way. 01:08:24.900 --> 01:08:26.900 Oh no. 01:08:26.900 --> 01:08:28.900 Yeah. 01:08:28.900 --> 01:08:30.900 So the last year they had to go ahead. 01:08:30.900 --> 01:08:32.900 That was a lot of us. 01:08:32.900 --> 01:08:34.900 That's good. 01:08:34.900 --> 01:08:36.900 Over the weekend after over in Traverse City. 01:08:36.900 --> 01:08:38.900 One more. 01:08:38.900 --> 01:08:40.900 She flew on her own. 01:08:40.900 --> 01:08:42.900 She didn't go in the wild. 01:08:42.900 --> 01:08:44.900 Sure. 01:08:44.900 --> 01:08:46.900 Missed okay. 01:08:46.900 --> 01:08:50.900 Her daughter wants it more. 01:08:54.900 --> 01:08:58.900 A little bit of IPM. 01:08:58.900 --> 01:09:00.900 With families who have walked in well. 01:09:00.900 --> 01:09:02.900 I mean two. 01:09:02.900 --> 01:09:04.900 Younger the kid is very close with. 01:09:04.900 --> 01:09:06.900 That was with Maddal. 01:09:06.900 --> 01:09:10.900 I was back two more, little bit of a second. 01:09:10.900 --> 01:09:40.900 The construction guy, he's all over, he's actually working with a thousand or a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred 01:09:40.900 --> 01:10:10.900 and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred and a hundred 01:10:10.900 --> 01:10:12.900 I'm telling you, I'm just a robber. 01:10:12.900 --> 01:10:14.900 Or I'm going to be like, oh, you know, 01:10:14.900 --> 01:10:16.900 it's next to me. 01:10:16.900 --> 01:10:18.900 We stored it, and we started out here 01:10:18.900 --> 01:10:20.900 with a little food, 01:10:20.900 --> 01:10:22.900 and they got to stay up there, 01:10:22.900 --> 01:10:24.900 doing a record player, so they used it. 01:10:24.900 --> 01:10:26.900 Well, that's what it was. 01:10:26.900 --> 01:10:28.900 I think it was tight over there. 01:10:28.900 --> 01:10:30.900 So, it was tight over there. 01:10:30.900 --> 01:10:32.900 It was done. 01:10:32.900 --> 01:10:34.900 And they went there a lot. 01:10:34.900 --> 01:10:36.900 I think we were back in the game. 01:10:36.900 --> 01:10:38.900 And I had to practice it, 01:10:38.900 --> 01:10:40.900 and then I was like, 01:10:40.900 --> 01:10:42.900 oh, yeah. 01:10:42.900 --> 01:10:44.900 Right there. 01:10:44.900 --> 01:10:46.900 It's not right. 01:10:46.900 --> 01:10:48.900 So, sort of, 01:10:48.900 --> 01:10:50.900 we could press the quarter and get a beer. 01:10:50.900 --> 01:10:52.900 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:10:52.900 --> 01:10:54.900 We're closing a lot of beer. 01:10:54.900 --> 01:10:56.900 So, so, 01:10:56.900 --> 01:10:58.900 you know, I'm focusing on this. 01:10:58.900 --> 01:11:00.900 I think it's great. 01:11:00.900 --> 01:11:02.900 I know it's the number time 01:11:02.900 --> 01:11:04.900 paying credit out there, 01:11:06.900 --> 01:11:08.900 that's why 01:11:08.900 --> 01:11:10.900 we're doing some pretty darn great Dorothy, 01:11:10.900 --> 01:11:12.900 who were playing probably 3-40. 01:11:12.900 --> 01:11:14.900 No. 01:11:14.900 --> 01:11:16.900 But, you know, back in the bartender room Yeah. 01:11:16.900 --> 01:11:18.900 It was how we got those. 01:11:18.900 --> 01:11:22.900 Okay? 01:11:22.900 --> 01:11:24.900 We did a little tackle in the bathroom, 01:11:24.900 --> 01:11:26.900 so I didn't get to sit. 01:11:26.900 --> 01:11:28.900 I had that through the wall when I were a there, 01:11:28.900 --> 01:11:30.900 and some serious developers. 01:11:30.900 --> 01:11:32.540 There's a series about for you. 01:11:32.540 --> 01:11:33.540 Right. 01:11:33.540 --> 01:11:34.540 You said it's you. 01:11:34.540 --> 01:11:35.540 Pardon me, gentlemen. 01:11:35.540 --> 01:11:36.540 Yep. 01:11:36.540 --> 01:11:37.540 All right. 01:11:37.540 --> 01:11:38.540 Wait. 01:11:38.540 --> 01:11:41.940 I've got a couple of photos in a minute. 01:11:41.940 --> 01:11:51.540 If you need a little bit more, you can tell me because it's all right. 01:11:51.540 --> 01:11:54.060 All right. 01:11:54.060 --> 01:11:59.300 I'm calling to order the Teaching Learning Equity and People Services Committee meeting 01:11:59.300 --> 01:12:01.300 first this evening. 01:12:01.300 --> 01:12:06.300 How could we get a roll call to you, Michelle? 01:12:06.300 --> 01:12:07.300 Yes. 01:12:07.300 --> 01:12:08.300 Tom Hacom? 01:12:08.300 --> 01:12:09.300 Here. 01:12:09.300 --> 01:12:11.300 Is that your number? 01:12:11.300 --> 01:12:12.300 Present. 01:12:12.300 --> 01:12:13.300 And Joanne Rose. 01:12:13.300 --> 01:12:14.300 I'm here. 01:12:14.300 --> 01:12:15.300 All members are present. 01:12:15.300 --> 01:12:16.300 All right. 01:12:16.300 --> 01:12:17.300 Thanks. 01:12:17.300 --> 01:12:18.300 Thanks. 01:12:18.300 --> 01:12:19.300 I have you back, Michelle. 01:12:19.300 --> 01:12:21.300 Can I get in the middle of the agenda? 01:12:21.300 --> 01:12:22.300 Double. 01:12:22.300 --> 01:12:23.300 That's all in favor. 01:12:23.300 --> 01:12:24.300 Nice. 01:12:24.300 --> 01:12:25.300 All in favor. 01:12:25.300 --> 01:12:26.300 High. 01:12:26.300 --> 01:12:28.300 Approval of the minutes from July. 01:12:28.300 --> 01:12:29.300 So. 01:12:29.300 --> 01:12:31.300 Maybe second it. 01:12:31.300 --> 01:12:32.300 All in favor. 01:12:32.300 --> 01:12:33.300 All right. 01:12:33.300 --> 01:12:34.300 All in favor. 01:12:34.300 --> 01:12:35.300 All right. 01:12:35.300 --> 01:12:36.300 All in favor. 01:12:36.300 --> 01:12:37.300 All right. 01:12:37.300 --> 01:12:38.300 All right. 01:12:38.300 --> 01:12:40.300 We're jumping into summer schools. 01:12:41.300 --> 01:12:44.300 All right. 01:12:44.300 --> 01:12:46.300 All in favor. 01:12:46.300 --> 01:12:47.300 High. 01:12:47.300 --> 01:12:50.300 Any public comments? 01:12:50.300 --> 01:12:51.300 All right. 01:12:51.300 --> 01:12:53.300 We're jumping into summer schools. 01:12:53.300 --> 01:12:55.300 2026 update then. 01:12:55.300 --> 01:12:57.300 Thank you. 01:12:57.300 --> 01:13:00.300 So I asked for Michelle. 01:13:00.300 --> 01:13:04.300 She's doing most of this. 01:13:04.300 --> 01:13:06.300 Summer school. 01:13:07.300 --> 01:13:10.300 And this was really a prior to me. 01:13:10.300 --> 01:13:12.300 And I really saw. 01:13:12.300 --> 01:13:14.300 Thank you, Rachelle, for being here. 01:13:14.300 --> 01:13:19.300 And she had some, and also going around and I will hand it off to her. 01:13:19.300 --> 01:13:20.300 All right. 01:13:20.300 --> 01:13:22.300 Again, it's a little dangerous to give Rachelle, L.E.T. 01:13:22.300 --> 01:13:24.300 floor to talk about summer school. 01:13:24.300 --> 01:13:29.300 I could talk a lot, but I tried to condense this down. 01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:35.300 In October is when our information is due to the state for like, 01:13:35.300 --> 01:13:38.300 reimbursement and student minutes. 01:13:38.300 --> 01:13:44.300 So this is more of just kind of a high-level overview about summer school. 01:13:44.300 --> 01:13:47.300 So we have had this year. 01:13:47.300 --> 01:13:51.300 We had two elementary sites being converse and Todd. 01:13:51.300 --> 01:13:54.300 We had one middle school site up at Bloot Memorial. 01:13:54.300 --> 01:13:57.300 And we had them the high school secondary at Bloot Memorial. 01:13:57.300 --> 01:14:01.300 We've had middle school and high school together for the last three years. 01:14:02.300 --> 01:14:05.300 They were together at Cunningham for a year. 01:14:05.300 --> 01:14:09.300 And then they'd been at Bloot Memorial the last two years. 01:14:09.300 --> 01:14:14.300 Even Start also ran through Fund 80 over at the Cunningham site. 01:14:14.300 --> 01:14:16.300 There's about 25 days in summer school. 01:14:16.300 --> 01:14:20.300 I say six weeks, but we kind of, you know, fourth of July is there. 01:14:20.300 --> 01:14:23.300 So we give some time off for families. 01:14:23.300 --> 01:14:26.300 We also have a, we don't start on a Monday. 01:14:26.300 --> 01:14:27.300 We start on a Tuesday. 01:14:27.300 --> 01:14:30.300 We found that that has been much more successful, 01:14:30.300 --> 01:14:34.300 especially when we're putting kids on buses to give staff an extra day 01:14:34.300 --> 01:14:37.300 to just get the classroom ready, get the buses ready. 01:14:37.300 --> 01:14:40.300 And then we generally end on a Thursday. 01:14:40.300 --> 01:14:43.300 So really it's four day weeks that we're looking at. 01:14:43.300 --> 01:14:47.300 We found that that has also helped us keep and retain staff 01:14:47.300 --> 01:14:53.300 because they know they at least have a day off somewhere for the four day week. 01:14:53.300 --> 01:14:58.300 We generally do a professional learning day at the beginning. 01:14:58.300 --> 01:15:03.300 And we have a teacher work day because they're generally going to another building 01:15:03.300 --> 01:15:08.300 so they have to get into somebody else's classroom and get things ready and set. 01:15:08.300 --> 01:15:12.300 They have new materials that they're learning with the Scholastic Lit Camp 01:15:12.300 --> 01:15:15.300 and then a day to kind of clean up. 01:15:15.300 --> 01:15:22.300 This last, the one thing I want to say before we get into, I put in enrollment numbers, 01:15:22.300 --> 01:15:25.300 summer school is different than the regular school year. 01:15:25.300 --> 01:15:30.300 The regular school year, you're ending up with like a per pupil allotment. 01:15:30.300 --> 01:15:31.300 Summer school is different. 01:15:31.300 --> 01:15:37.300 We get money for the amount of time that kids are in the seats of summer school 01:15:37.300 --> 01:15:41.300 and that is the only thing that is reimbursed back to us. 01:15:41.300 --> 01:15:44.300 So attendance is really, really important. 01:15:44.300 --> 01:15:46.300 There's also no extra positions. 01:15:46.300 --> 01:15:50.300 It's only like the money generated from the kids in there. 01:15:50.300 --> 01:15:53.300 So like secretaries aren't necessarily reimbursed. 01:15:53.300 --> 01:15:56.300 They come out of that principles. 01:15:56.300 --> 01:15:59.300 Social workers, counselors. 01:15:59.300 --> 01:16:04.300 So summer school is very different in the type of staff that we have. 01:16:04.300 --> 01:16:06.300 It's also non-compulsory. 01:16:06.300 --> 01:16:10.300 So students with IEPs, we don't have to. 01:16:10.300 --> 01:16:16.300 We are not obliged by special ed services, EL services, or GTs. 01:16:17.300 --> 01:16:21.300 So just a little bit different on the regular school year. 01:16:21.300 --> 01:16:27.300 This year, we went with one section for each grade. 01:16:27.300 --> 01:16:35.300 Sometimes we try to do two sections, but you'll notice that our retention rate for summer school 01:16:35.300 --> 01:16:37.300 has struggled a little bit. 01:16:37.300 --> 01:16:41.300 Generally the number of kids that sign up at the beginning of the summer, 01:16:41.300 --> 01:16:44.300 they don't necessarily make it the end of the summer. 01:16:44.300 --> 01:16:50.300 They have different things to keep that excitement for summer school so kids are coming. 01:16:50.300 --> 01:16:56.300 Todd did have a better rate this year with the retention of the number of kids. 01:16:56.300 --> 01:16:58.300 I'm not sure what they did differently. 01:16:58.300 --> 01:17:03.300 They do have a CLC program at the end of the school day. 01:17:03.300 --> 01:17:08.300 So maybe parents who really needed the daycare for summer school, 01:17:08.300 --> 01:17:12.300 those kids maintained throughout the summer school. 01:17:12.300 --> 01:17:17.300 Otherwise, the converse number is pretty much the 58% retention rate 01:17:17.300 --> 01:17:21.300 has been similar to what we've had in other buildings. 01:17:21.300 --> 01:17:27.300 In elementary summer school, is we have a variety of academic enrichment? 01:17:27.300 --> 01:17:29.300 I have a question. 01:17:29.300 --> 01:17:30.300 Okay. 01:17:30.300 --> 01:17:34.300 Do we know how many or some, like, two classes from the same family or something? 01:17:34.300 --> 01:17:35.300 Do you know that? 01:17:35.300 --> 01:17:41.300 Do we know, like, you know, like 48%, maybe two kids from one family in the different... 01:17:41.300 --> 01:17:43.300 That was just for that grade. 01:17:43.300 --> 01:17:48.300 So for 4K, for Todd, the first week of school there were 21 kids, 01:17:48.300 --> 01:17:52.300 then we, you know, the last week there were 19, so we kept 90%. 01:17:52.300 --> 01:17:54.300 I don't know which were families. 01:17:54.300 --> 01:17:57.300 The families had five kids, and then that, you know... 01:17:57.300 --> 01:18:01.300 They could have been, yeah. 01:18:01.300 --> 01:18:03.300 Okay. 01:18:03.300 --> 01:18:08.300 So a variety of academic enrichment, so we use this scholastic lit camp. 01:18:08.300 --> 01:18:15.300 It is kind of a thematic per week that things can be easily rocked up, 01:18:15.300 --> 01:18:18.300 and there's nice text that go along with that. 01:18:18.300 --> 01:18:23.300 Math is an SDB created where their kids are using manipulatives 01:18:23.300 --> 01:18:25.300 and working on those curriculum materials. 01:18:25.300 --> 01:18:29.300 We don't have a lot of technology in summer school whatsoever, 01:18:29.300 --> 01:18:32.300 because we know that devices were going in and getting repaired, 01:18:32.300 --> 01:18:35.300 and we never quite sure what we were going to have. 01:18:35.300 --> 01:18:40.300 So summer school has always been very low-tech at elementary. 01:18:40.300 --> 01:18:45.300 Enrichment, we have a lot of food-based things. 01:18:45.300 --> 01:18:48.300 Kindergarten has had munching on books, 01:18:48.300 --> 01:18:51.300 and then munching on books was so successful, 01:18:51.300 --> 01:18:54.300 and kids loved it that we did ABC snack attacks that was written 01:18:54.300 --> 01:18:58.300 by a couple of the SDB teachers, so they're reading a book 01:18:58.300 --> 01:19:02.300 and then they're making a snack about that, whatever that happens to be. 01:19:02.300 --> 01:19:09.300 To give them off a cookie or inside a log, whatever that snack ends up being. 01:19:09.300 --> 01:19:13.300 We also try to have some Lego sets that we have. 01:19:13.300 --> 01:19:16.300 We try to put in art, music, PE. 01:19:16.300 --> 01:19:21.300 We really let the classroom teachers kind of develop what it is 01:19:21.300 --> 01:19:24.300 that they're going to do with some of those enrichment, 01:19:24.300 --> 01:19:27.300 and a lot of times they'll flip-flop, like one person will do Fayette 01:19:27.300 --> 01:19:31.300 and one will do art, and then they'll have a little bit of activity with each. 01:19:31.300 --> 01:19:36.300 Part of Act 20 is that we had to have some sort of reading foundational skills, 01:19:36.300 --> 01:19:41.300 so I wrote some reading foundational units that go into those grade levels, 01:19:41.300 --> 01:19:45.300 and we are offering intervention for those kids who are on PRPs, 01:19:45.300 --> 01:19:48.300 so we had some interventionists there as well. 01:19:48.300 --> 01:19:51.300 Like I said, Todd had their CLC program. 01:19:51.300 --> 01:19:57.300 We started doing kind of co-principles at the elementary in the last couple of years 01:19:57.300 --> 01:20:02.300 where we kind of have a main principle, and then we have somebody that supports both buildings. 01:20:02.300 --> 01:20:06.300 We have found that that has really had a nice job with continuity, 01:20:06.300 --> 01:20:12.300 because if somebody wants some time off, we already have somebody else that's tapped in for that position. 01:20:12.300 --> 01:20:19.300 So the last two years, I've had very little scrambling to find an administrator for the buildings. 01:20:19.300 --> 01:20:26.300 Middle school is all about, do you have something that's interesting to the kids? 01:20:26.300 --> 01:20:29.300 They're at the age where they don't necessarily have to be there. 01:20:29.300 --> 01:20:34.300 They could stay at home, so what are we offering that is enticing for them to come? 01:20:34.300 --> 01:20:39.300 So the ELA is a book quest where they're reading books and they're answering questions 01:20:39.300 --> 01:20:41.300 and they're playing kind of games. 01:20:41.300 --> 01:20:48.300 I also needed a couple years ago, our ELA teacher, there's three sections, 01:20:48.300 --> 01:20:51.300 I'm like, okay, what if we threw in a creative writing? 01:20:51.300 --> 01:20:55.300 So I kind of wrote up some curriculum, I'm like, oh, this probably isn't going to go anywhere, 01:20:55.300 --> 01:20:56.300 nobody's going to want to write. 01:20:56.300 --> 01:21:01.300 That was one of the most, well, the biggest requested class. 01:21:01.300 --> 01:21:04.300 And I was like, okay, I guess we like creative writing. 01:21:04.300 --> 01:21:06.300 So that has stayed in there as well. 01:21:06.300 --> 01:21:10.300 Math is cool, it's an SDB created, so there's a sixth, a seventh, and an eighth. 01:21:10.300 --> 01:21:16.300 Board games is always popular with teaching board games and how to get along with others. 01:21:16.300 --> 01:21:24.300 Yard games also came in a couple of years with bags and big jenga pieces. 01:21:24.300 --> 01:21:28.300 Band has also been extremely popular. 01:21:28.300 --> 01:21:33.300 Kyle Cawthorne, I'll just call them off, has done a great job of putting his own horn 01:21:33.300 --> 01:21:41.300 and getting our band numbers up, literally putting his horn, and kids wanting to come for band. 01:21:41.300 --> 01:21:46.300 Kids that would normally do not need to come to summer school, they do not want to come 01:21:46.300 --> 01:21:49.300 to summer school except for bands. 01:21:49.300 --> 01:21:51.300 So that has been really good. 01:21:51.300 --> 01:21:57.300 We also did a cooking with curiosity the last couple of years, paired with UW Health. 01:21:57.300 --> 01:22:02.300 Nutrition, they come in for one day and then we can kind of continue with that. 01:22:02.300 --> 01:22:04.300 There's been two sections of that. 01:22:04.300 --> 01:22:09.300 Sign language has also been very popular for kids to take as well. 01:22:09.300 --> 01:22:17.300 Lifelong fitness is kind of the PE class, so anything, biking, Rick Barter comes in with his group. 01:22:17.300 --> 01:22:24.300 Pickleball, if it's lifelong, swimming, we want to get the kids doing things, you know, golf, 01:22:24.300 --> 01:22:28.300 whatever that happens to be to get kids active. 01:22:28.300 --> 01:22:34.300 This last year, Beak Kruver needed to do, she's one of the high school art teachers. 01:22:34.300 --> 01:22:36.300 She needed some time for her certification. 01:22:36.300 --> 01:22:39.300 She's like, can I propose some middle school classes? 01:22:39.300 --> 01:22:40.300 Absolutely. 01:22:40.300 --> 01:22:45.300 So we had comic creation and clay and multimedia and 2D art. 01:22:45.300 --> 01:22:48.300 I'm not sure that that would continue in the future. 01:22:48.300 --> 01:22:54.300 I mean, summer school sometimes for middle school is all about the staff that won work that. 01:22:54.300 --> 01:23:00.300 And then we had two co-principles that did that together. 01:23:00.300 --> 01:23:04.300 High school, we primarily have credit recovery. 01:23:04.300 --> 01:23:10.300 High school funding is based on how many credits that kids are receiving. 01:23:10.300 --> 01:23:15.300 And so we use the Apex platform that we do during the school year. 01:23:15.300 --> 01:23:19.300 We try them to do whatever they do during the school year is what we do during the summer. 01:23:19.300 --> 01:23:24.300 Kids can earn two credits total for the summer. 01:23:24.300 --> 01:23:29.300 So you can see the breakdown of the classes, how many credits, 01:23:29.300 --> 01:23:33.300 and then how many students were in that. 01:23:33.300 --> 01:23:40.300 So there is another breakdown of like English 9 part 1 and English 9 part 2 and English 10 part 1 and English 10 part 2. 01:23:40.300 --> 01:23:43.300 So you can go all the way down through those. 01:23:43.300 --> 01:23:50.300 We do always try to offer personal finance as a credit recovery and American democracy because those are required for graduation. 01:23:50.300 --> 01:23:55.300 And obviously they need four credits of English to get through as well. 01:23:55.300 --> 01:24:00.300 So they took 145 of the Apex modules as a class. 01:24:00.300 --> 01:24:15.300 So if a student failed English 9 part 1 and English 9 part 2, those are two separate classes in the Apex platform. 01:24:15.300 --> 01:24:19.300 So 98 students took 145 classes? 01:24:19.300 --> 01:24:20.300 Yes. 01:24:20.300 --> 01:24:24.300 Which was a total of 72 and a half credits. 01:24:24.300 --> 01:24:28.300 We do offer some initial credit. 01:24:28.300 --> 01:24:34.300 Most summer schools don't because you have to get the same number of minutes that you would get during the school year. 01:24:34.300 --> 01:24:39.300 So a half credit is 4,050 minutes so we have to make sure that we do that. 01:24:39.300 --> 01:24:42.300 And that's what our six weeks does. 01:24:42.300 --> 01:24:49.300 So 28 students took Phi Ed so they got their you know their half credit. 01:24:49.300 --> 01:24:55.300 When I looked and analyzed some of those kids who have taken Phi Ed during the last couple of years, 01:24:55.300 --> 01:24:59.300 many times there's kids that they want to take AP classes. 01:24:59.300 --> 01:25:03.300 So they take their Phi Ed during the summer so they can load up on more AP. 01:25:04.300 --> 01:25:07.300 So when I, we had the list of like the top 20 kids. 01:25:07.300 --> 01:25:13.300 So I just started going through my summer school list and seeing how many of those top 20 kids had taken summer school 01:25:13.300 --> 01:25:18.300 and there was a good chunk of them who had taken Phi Ed during the summer. 01:25:18.300 --> 01:25:25.300 And then we do have IG students as well who are in their extended school year taking classes as well. 01:25:25.300 --> 01:25:28.300 So I just put the 13 students that were in there. 01:25:28.300 --> 01:25:36.300 We really make every effort to try to offer a range of initial credits but it's really tough 01:25:36.300 --> 01:25:39.300 because you clearly can't have something that's a prerequisite. 01:25:39.300 --> 01:25:47.300 You can't have somebody sit in algebra one, part one, all day, all summer to get to 4,050 minutes. 01:25:47.300 --> 01:25:49.300 We've done it in health. 01:25:49.300 --> 01:25:55.300 But we haven't had it for a couple of years because we'll only get like three kids that want to take the health class. 01:25:55.300 --> 01:25:58.300 So we just push them towards the Phi Ed. 01:25:58.300 --> 01:26:04.300 Kids who are taking credit recovery can get the credit but if they get an A in credit recovery 01:26:04.300 --> 01:26:13.300 that does not change the GPA, their F was still on their transcripts for that. 01:26:13.300 --> 01:26:21.300 Dr. Malat asked me to kind of ask Stephanie for some Stephanie and Jenny Miller for some of the buffing information. 01:26:22.300 --> 01:26:30.300 So you can see this broken out for June and July how much of the regular ed busing, the specialized busing for the ID students. 01:26:30.300 --> 01:26:37.300 And I did include the CLC program because the CLC did bus kids from the middle school program at the end of the day. 01:26:37.300 --> 01:26:42.300 So you can see what the cost for the busing ended up being. 01:26:42.300 --> 01:26:47.300 There were 203 regular education bus riders. 01:26:48.300 --> 01:26:51.300 The stat I would like to look a little deeper into. 01:26:51.300 --> 01:26:58.300 Were they elementary? Were they middle? What exactly does that per tail on how much the buffing had cost? 01:26:58.300 --> 01:27:10.300 Dr. Malat and Dr. Sengel asked Dr. Gordon and Dr. Sengel asked me to talk about some of the things that we think about and we consider for next year. 01:27:10.300 --> 01:27:16.300 Do we stick with one elementary or do we stick with two web entries? 01:27:16.300 --> 01:27:19.300 Or do we just have one elementary for summer school? 01:27:19.300 --> 01:27:24.300 Because we can easily have two sections and have all the kids in one building. 01:27:24.300 --> 01:27:27.300 Do we keep the middle school and high school together? It has been successful. 01:27:27.300 --> 01:27:32.300 We have not had issues with drama. So that has been nice. 01:27:32.300 --> 01:27:37.300 And then we also have extra staff that's there to support that. 01:27:37.300 --> 01:27:42.300 We always go back to the lens of our summer session. Do we do half days for six weeks? 01:27:42.300 --> 01:27:48.300 We can get enough medicine for initial credits for our high school students. 01:27:48.300 --> 01:27:56.300 But other districts maybe don't even offer summer school or they do, you know, three weeks or four weeks. 01:27:56.300 --> 01:27:59.300 Something that we can also consider. 01:27:59.300 --> 01:28:04.300 Talking about busing. Do we want to continue to offer busing for summer? 01:28:04.300 --> 01:28:10.300 Do we need to look at site configuration? Could we save money on routes? 01:28:10.300 --> 01:28:20.300 One of the items that I really have been debating over the last couple years is do we offer incoming 4K summer school options? 01:28:20.300 --> 01:28:25.300 This is their first experience. It is 25 days. 01:28:25.300 --> 01:28:32.300 But we also don't have like an open house for it. It may not be that the school that they're at. 01:28:32.300 --> 01:28:38.300 And what if we have kids like this last year, we had a parent that called me that our son had a severe peanut allergy? 01:28:38.300 --> 01:28:44.300 Well, how would we clock that on enrollment paperwork? 01:28:44.300 --> 01:28:48.300 Normally, Michelle Babilis kind of goes to that and we have nurses. 01:28:48.300 --> 01:28:55.300 But we really have to think about is do we really know the kids who are coming to incoming 4K? 01:28:55.300 --> 01:29:01.300 And some of them are three. Like they don't turn four until end of August. 01:29:01.300 --> 01:29:04.300 So they're pretty little. 01:29:04.300 --> 01:29:12.300 So, I mean, for 25 days, do we just wait until the regular school year starts and we welcome them in? 01:29:12.300 --> 01:29:17.300 And then this last year we did close enrollment when sections had filled. 01:29:17.300 --> 01:29:22.300 We opened in the end of April. We closed in the end of June. 01:29:22.300 --> 01:29:30.300 We did have some families that were a little upset that once school started, summer school started that they wanted to enroll. 01:29:30.300 --> 01:29:34.300 And we didn't, the sections were filled at that point. 01:29:34.300 --> 01:29:40.300 And then they need busing and then we got to check on just other things with kids. 01:29:40.300 --> 01:29:48.300 And so it was really nice to have like a, this is the date for enrollment. I'm sorry. We're closed. 01:29:48.300 --> 01:29:54.300 But you did have six weeks to enroll for summer school. 01:29:54.300 --> 01:29:59.300 Okay. Thank you. I do have a question to start with. 01:29:59.300 --> 01:30:08.300 I thought that somehow summer school was affected by the budget cuts in our spreadsheet. 01:30:08.300 --> 01:30:11.300 I don't remember if it was transportation or something else. 01:30:11.300 --> 01:30:16.300 It wasn't, was it adjusted at one point and then it disappeared? Okay. 01:30:16.300 --> 01:30:17.300 All right. 01:30:17.300 --> 01:30:21.300 We did cut down the number of sections. 01:30:21.300 --> 01:30:24.300 I thought for this year. 01:30:24.300 --> 01:30:30.300 Yeah. But I thought like budget cuts, it was in one of those for next year. 01:30:30.300 --> 01:30:31.300 Yes. 01:30:31.300 --> 01:30:33.300 And we did. And it was busing. 01:30:33.300 --> 01:30:34.300 Yeah. 01:30:34.300 --> 01:30:38.300 So did that not get past this part of the budget? 01:30:38.300 --> 01:30:42.300 Or are we, I don't know. I don't remember. That's why I'm asking. 01:30:42.300 --> 01:30:50.300 So summer school for the summer of 26, it's heard of the 26th, 27th budget. 01:30:50.300 --> 01:30:52.300 Does it already happen? 01:30:52.300 --> 01:30:54.300 No, I'm talking about next year. 01:30:54.300 --> 01:31:01.300 So next year, if you look at the cost way, the cost way out, the majority of the costs are in July. 01:31:01.300 --> 01:31:05.300 So they would be 27, 28th budget. 01:31:05.300 --> 01:31:13.300 And as a question that are being asked, Rachelle does any questions for next summer, summer school for 27, 28th. 01:31:13.300 --> 01:31:18.300 Yeah. So that's, that's why I'm, are we still doing it? 01:31:18.300 --> 01:31:21.300 Are we still doing it? 01:31:21.300 --> 01:31:22.300 Summer school? 01:31:22.300 --> 01:31:25.300 Yeah. Like, where did that land in the budget? That's all I'm asking. 01:31:25.300 --> 01:31:27.300 We'll still be doing summer school. 01:31:27.300 --> 01:31:28.300 Okay. 01:31:28.300 --> 01:31:30.300 To what capacity that's what we're taking a look at. 01:31:30.300 --> 01:31:31.300 Okay. 01:31:31.300 --> 01:31:35.300 So we're going to do what's probably costing. Are we going to do costing? 01:31:35.300 --> 01:31:37.300 Okay. So that's a happy cost. Right. 01:31:37.300 --> 01:31:40.300 And we're going to have one site for our budget. 01:31:40.300 --> 01:31:42.300 Okay. So those are the things we can't. 01:31:42.300 --> 01:31:43.300 All right. 01:31:43.300 --> 01:31:46.300 So this is already in this current budget. 01:31:46.300 --> 01:31:51.300 Correct. Because if you look at the days, the summer school is in 13 to 23rd. 01:31:51.300 --> 01:31:58.300 So the majority of the costs are in the school for the summer of 26th or in the 26th, 27th cost. 01:31:59.300 --> 01:32:01.300 Just for sure. 01:32:01.300 --> 01:32:03.300 I mean, this is not my main at all. 01:32:03.300 --> 01:32:06.300 You know, you said about elementary. 01:32:06.300 --> 01:32:09.300 East and West side, if you're looking at two, it's good. 01:32:09.300 --> 01:32:11.300 I don't know how that works. 01:32:11.300 --> 01:32:13.300 It's a blessing, you know, it's a help. 01:32:13.300 --> 01:32:19.300 It's not, but, you know, I think it's a great thing in a place to go and have to go that far. 01:32:19.300 --> 01:32:21.300 It's just not bad. Thank you. 01:32:21.300 --> 01:32:22.300 Thank you. 01:32:22.300 --> 01:32:25.300 Megan, did you have any questions? 01:32:26.300 --> 01:32:30.300 No, this is very thorough and I really appreciate the presentation. 01:32:30.300 --> 01:32:33.300 Thanks for taking the time to put it together. 01:32:33.300 --> 01:32:46.300 Rachel, do you know, um, has had retention rate has been that much higher every year that they've had it or just. 01:32:46.300 --> 01:32:48.300 It's been a little bit anomaly. 01:32:49.300 --> 01:32:52.300 Um, normally I have just done it holistically. 01:32:52.300 --> 01:32:57.300 Um, and so this was the first time that I broke out the buildings wise. 01:32:57.300 --> 01:33:04.300 And so I need to go back and take a look and see if the CLC program and having after school care has affected that. 01:33:04.300 --> 01:33:10.300 And Todd is the only school that we could have the CLC program after summer school. 01:33:10.300 --> 01:33:11.300 Is that correct? 01:33:11.300 --> 01:33:13.300 Yes, because they have that grant. 01:33:13.300 --> 01:33:15.300 And I don't know when that grant is. 01:33:16.300 --> 01:33:21.300 Um, for at all, the CLC this year. 01:33:21.300 --> 01:33:27.300 Okay, so they won't have unless they reapply and we have CLCs, they won't have the grant next year. 01:33:27.300 --> 01:33:28.300 Do you know Dr. Gordon? 01:33:28.300 --> 01:33:33.300 Do you know if we have people that are working on renewing that CLC grant? 01:33:33.300 --> 01:33:36.300 Um, I'm not sure I can ask. 01:33:36.300 --> 01:33:38.300 Okay. 01:33:38.300 --> 01:33:39.300 So I don't know. 01:33:39.300 --> 01:33:47.300 My thought is if we have sites that have the CLC opportunity, but that's what makes us for parents. 01:33:47.300 --> 01:33:54.300 And they send their kids in the morning and they're there all day and then they pick them up instead of daycare. 01:33:54.300 --> 01:33:59.300 And I'm guessing that that might be a part of why our retention rate is so much higher at Todd. 01:33:59.300 --> 01:34:02.300 It's because it is all day instead of just half a day. 01:34:02.300 --> 01:34:05.300 Half day hard for parents. 01:34:06.300 --> 01:34:14.300 Well, I guess my question is how does it compare with, how does it compare with previous years in terms of overall numbers? 01:34:14.300 --> 01:34:24.300 Um, when you look at, um, 46 sixth graders out of all of the sixth graders that had a fairly full percentage. 01:34:24.300 --> 01:34:25.300 Yeah. 01:34:25.300 --> 01:34:28.300 That's pretty typical for why that's pretty typical. 01:34:29.300 --> 01:34:36.300 Um, so we're looking at a fairly small percentage of parents who even want to attend numbers? 01:34:36.300 --> 01:34:37.300 For middle school? 01:34:37.300 --> 01:34:38.300 Yeah. 01:34:38.300 --> 01:34:49.300 And what, even the elementary, when you look at those numbers, most of those are, if the exception is accurate, are right around the same amount. 01:34:49.300 --> 01:35:00.300 So, um, I guess maybe that's one of the things we can discuss or talk to the community about, you know, the parents is, do you really want them to school? 01:35:00.300 --> 01:35:04.300 And what is it that you're going to want in terms of summer school? 01:35:04.300 --> 01:35:12.300 Because it does seem to be kind of a small percentage of the kids that we've had enrolled that are actually attending. 01:35:13.300 --> 01:35:22.300 And when we would just have open enrollment at any time, we'd have a lot of kids that would sign up, and then they'd only come for about a week. 01:35:22.300 --> 01:35:26.300 And then it was nice outside of the identification and our attendance would plummet. 01:35:26.300 --> 01:35:34.300 Um, those were some of the years that we didn't, um, and I don't want to, we make money on summer school, but the goal is to break even. 01:35:34.300 --> 01:35:37.300 Those are some of the years that we did not necessarily break even. 01:35:37.300 --> 01:35:38.300 Yeah. 01:35:39.300 --> 01:35:48.300 So there's this balance, like we want you to have fun during summer and goal places, but then we also need to come into summer school because that's how our funding is based. 01:35:48.300 --> 01:35:50.300 It's an innocent seat. 01:35:50.300 --> 01:35:52.300 Have we tracked any of the information over? 01:35:52.300 --> 01:35:56.300 I mean, how does it look year after year after year? 01:35:56.300 --> 01:36:01.300 How does it, um, have our numbers stayed fairly steady over the years? 01:36:01.300 --> 01:36:15.300 Are we dropping or, you know, I think, you know, maybe as we move to make decisions for next year, we need to backtrack a little bit of the trend of what's been happening to summer school for the years. 01:36:15.300 --> 01:36:18.300 Uh, we need to determine what we want to do. 01:36:18.300 --> 01:36:24.300 I mean, to me it may be one elementary that has a CO2 program might be the most effective. 01:36:25.300 --> 01:36:36.300 Our highest number of years is when Merrill had a summer school, Todd had a summer school, hack it out of summer school, and then either conversate gas and it went back and forth. 01:36:36.300 --> 01:36:44.300 Um, we also had a hard time those years staffing, um, because we're spreading out so many staff members. 01:36:44.300 --> 01:36:51.300 Um, and we just couldn't find enough people to work necessarily and our attendance rate would still drop. 01:36:51.300 --> 01:37:01.300 So then you've got, you know, 12 kids that hack it and 15 kids that gassed in and you really couldn't, you can't combine two buildings like that when the summer started. 01:37:01.300 --> 01:37:04.300 Maybe you run up all of the high schools. 01:37:04.300 --> 01:37:07.300 I don't know, I don't know how it would work. 01:37:07.300 --> 01:37:11.300 Well, that's something we have talked about a little bit. 01:37:11.300 --> 01:37:14.300 Could we have everybody up at the high school? 01:37:14.300 --> 01:37:15.300 In one central location. 01:37:15.300 --> 01:37:20.300 When we did that at Frozen, but we did have to take over furniture for the little. 01:37:20.300 --> 01:37:21.300 Yeah. 01:37:21.300 --> 01:37:22.300 Okay. 01:37:22.300 --> 01:37:28.300 And so that wasn't necessarily the easiest that, well, Cecilia's maintenance was going to happen with that. 01:37:28.300 --> 01:37:29.300 Yeah. 01:37:29.300 --> 01:37:34.300 We had to drive, we had to take all the little stuff over the Frozen. 01:37:34.300 --> 01:37:35.300 Yeah. 01:37:35.300 --> 01:37:36.300 Yeah. 01:37:36.300 --> 01:37:42.300 So I just, you know, yeah, I mean, I think some of this definitely needs to be studied as we look. 01:37:42.300 --> 01:37:48.300 And if we condense sites, we will have left families, especially if we don't provide busing, that would go. 01:37:48.300 --> 01:37:49.300 Great. 01:37:49.300 --> 01:37:50.300 And get that. 01:37:50.300 --> 01:37:55.300 On the other hand, if you can do a CLC program, you can touch with it. 01:37:55.300 --> 01:37:59.300 Maybe you might need to pick up more. 01:37:59.300 --> 01:38:04.300 So, because it does look like the CLC made a difference. 01:38:04.300 --> 01:38:06.300 And I don't know if you can backtrack it. 01:38:07.300 --> 01:38:13.300 Yeah. 01:38:13.300 --> 01:38:19.300 And we did say when families were signing up, like, we need to come in a majority of the time. 01:38:19.300 --> 01:38:23.300 You know, because we only have so many spots, so we need you here. 01:38:23.300 --> 01:38:27.300 And then if somebody would drop off, we, there was a, like, a time waiting list. 01:38:27.300 --> 01:38:32.300 They would, you know, contact people and make sure that, you know, we'll have to sign in. 01:38:32.300 --> 01:38:33.300 Yes, sir. 01:38:34.300 --> 01:38:35.300 Just going back. 01:38:35.300 --> 01:38:42.300 I thought I heard you saying that along the covers had a good rate for retention instead of being. 01:38:42.300 --> 01:38:44.300 So we have Leah and Ryan here. 01:38:44.300 --> 01:38:47.300 You know, what were the tricks that you saw to keep them there? 01:38:47.300 --> 01:38:54.300 I mean, can we, is it, was there something to be, you know, the tricks of the tricks? 01:38:54.300 --> 01:38:56.300 I know that. 01:38:56.300 --> 01:38:57.300 I don't know. 01:38:57.300 --> 01:38:58.300 That's a good answer. 01:38:59.300 --> 01:39:03.300 Honestly, I think it's, you know, it's changed a little bit in the landscape of people being here. 01:39:03.300 --> 01:39:04.300 Yeah. 01:39:04.300 --> 01:39:11.300 You know, this, when we had summer school at commerce, the commerce, we were there. 01:39:11.300 --> 01:39:14.300 We had summer school at commerce, you know, it did drop. 01:39:14.300 --> 01:39:15.300 It did drop. 01:39:15.300 --> 01:39:16.300 It started out really strong. 01:39:16.300 --> 01:39:19.300 After 4th of July, it didn't dwindle. 01:39:19.300 --> 01:39:23.300 But then they would come, they would hear about one thing you were doing. 01:39:23.300 --> 01:39:26.300 They would come for those days and then they would, they would go out again. 01:39:27.300 --> 01:39:32.300 You know, so it kind of intermittent, you know, like Rachel said, it's summertime. 01:39:32.300 --> 01:39:35.300 They, they were, they were going to stop. 01:39:35.300 --> 01:39:40.300 But I do think that the point is the C.L.T. 01:39:40.300 --> 01:39:41.300 have the kids there. 01:39:41.300 --> 01:39:43.300 There isn't a huge need. 01:39:43.300 --> 01:39:44.300 There isn't need for daycare. 01:39:44.300 --> 01:39:45.300 Yeah. 01:39:45.300 --> 01:39:51.300 When the commerce, when we had summer school at commerce, we still had, we were able to have kids for the boys to help come. 01:39:52.300 --> 01:39:59.300 So I'm not sure if that was, I'm not sure if that was something that was, it will continue to come in. 01:39:59.300 --> 01:40:02.300 I thought there was a bus that picked up, so it went to the boys' center. 01:40:02.300 --> 01:40:05.300 But that was huge, that was a huge thing. 01:40:05.300 --> 01:40:07.300 So I'm not sure what the intent was. 01:40:07.300 --> 01:40:13.300 It was like, look back in here to the commerce team, but that was really popular and kept kids coming. 01:40:13.300 --> 01:40:15.300 So because they had that aftercare. 01:40:15.300 --> 01:40:16.300 Okay. 01:40:16.300 --> 01:40:17.300 Thank you. 01:40:17.300 --> 01:40:18.300 Yeah. 01:40:18.300 --> 01:40:24.300 Well, he also does a lot of stuff during the summer that's a little bit in competition with our, our program as well. 01:40:24.300 --> 01:40:33.300 Summer summer, we can't really reveal, but if there are some, you know, particularly trying to keep them vulnerable, but 01:40:33.300 --> 01:40:39.300 like we're all saying here, the COC or after school care is even more. 01:40:39.300 --> 01:40:41.300 Well, for middle school, it was banned. 01:40:41.300 --> 01:40:42.300 Yeah. 01:40:42.300 --> 01:40:45.300 They wanted to drum their drums and put their horns. 01:40:46.300 --> 01:40:50.300 There was another program, and I wanted to say it was from, I think it was Meryl. 01:40:50.300 --> 01:40:52.300 It was a bus that picked up kids. 01:40:52.300 --> 01:40:53.300 I don't know if you know that. 01:40:53.300 --> 01:40:56.300 It was a vehicle on a new field trip, so they would be frozen. 01:40:56.300 --> 01:40:59.300 And I can't remember what the program called the back. 01:40:59.300 --> 01:41:04.300 In the case that we're in that after school program, the act of commerce was a striking name. 01:41:04.300 --> 01:41:05.300 No. 01:41:05.300 --> 01:41:07.300 It was prior to having them. 01:41:07.300 --> 01:41:10.300 So it was a white bus in common. 01:41:10.300 --> 01:41:13.300 They would go for their field trip on the beach. 01:41:14.300 --> 01:41:17.300 So that was a couple of years ago, though. 01:41:17.300 --> 01:41:19.300 It will come from later. 01:41:19.300 --> 01:41:21.300 And we were doing well these during the year. 01:41:21.300 --> 01:41:26.300 Maybe we could work on coordinating a school better with the summer school. 01:41:26.300 --> 01:41:35.300 We've had them come in, but this year, we, for budget cuts, we, you know, didn't necessarily do all of that. 01:41:35.300 --> 01:41:36.300 Yeah. 01:41:36.300 --> 01:41:41.300 So, you know, how many people date the bus then? 01:41:41.300 --> 01:41:44.300 The first report I got from Jenny Miller. 01:41:44.300 --> 01:41:47.300 It was 203. 01:41:47.300 --> 01:41:48.300 We're on the bus. 01:41:48.300 --> 01:41:51.300 I do want to ask a little bit more. 01:41:51.300 --> 01:41:57.300 She said I could call junior and get more of that information, like were those elementary? 01:41:57.300 --> 01:41:58.300 Were they middle? 01:41:58.300 --> 01:41:59.300 Were they family? 01:41:59.300 --> 01:42:04.300 So I think that's something to dig a little bit deeper into. 01:42:04.300 --> 01:42:07.300 And how many buses are there? 01:42:07.300 --> 01:42:09.300 I don't know how many buses they had. 01:42:09.300 --> 01:42:11.300 But they're on a tiered system. 01:42:11.300 --> 01:42:15.300 So they did the middle school first, and then they did the elementary. 01:42:15.300 --> 01:42:17.300 I'm guessing. 01:42:17.300 --> 01:42:18.300 I don't know. 01:42:18.300 --> 01:42:19.300 Never mind. 01:42:19.300 --> 01:42:20.300 What's that? 01:42:20.300 --> 01:42:21.300 No. 01:42:21.300 --> 01:42:23.300 I should not guess how many buses we had. 01:42:23.300 --> 01:42:29.300 I just remember how many I saw out there, like, in the morning, but I don't know if anybody was late. 01:42:29.300 --> 01:42:32.300 So I'm not going to comment. 01:42:32.300 --> 01:42:34.300 It's a good place. 01:42:34.300 --> 01:42:35.300 Kim? 01:42:35.300 --> 01:42:42.300 You know, in some school districts, summer school programs can be big on net revenue generating 01:42:42.300 --> 01:42:44.300 operations for school districts. 01:42:44.300 --> 01:42:49.300 I don't know what the history is here. 01:42:49.300 --> 01:42:51.300 If you've made money over summer school. 01:42:51.300 --> 01:42:55.300 Our goal is just to break even. 01:42:55.300 --> 01:42:57.300 I mean, there've been some years. 01:42:57.300 --> 01:43:02.300 We've made money, and then there's been some years that we have lost money. 01:43:02.300 --> 01:43:12.300 So what we have been on a zero, like, we haven't lost any money, so that's my goal. 01:43:12.300 --> 01:43:19.300 So people ask, Michelle, for things, Michelle's like, nope, nope, nope. 01:43:19.300 --> 01:43:26.300 I guess the point is, this could be maybe redesigned summer school, and maybe a different way. 01:43:26.300 --> 01:43:35.300 But looking to maybe generate some revenue from what you do, it might be possible positive budget. 01:43:35.300 --> 01:43:36.300 Fire. 01:43:41.300 --> 01:43:43.300 I'm thinking. 01:43:43.300 --> 01:43:45.300 How would we do that? 01:43:45.300 --> 01:43:47.300 I mean, kids have to come. 01:43:47.300 --> 01:43:48.300 Yeah. 01:43:48.300 --> 01:43:52.300 And so, yeah, like, we're back to the same square, right? 01:43:52.300 --> 01:43:54.300 We got to get them there. 01:43:54.300 --> 01:43:55.300 We get them there all day. 01:43:55.300 --> 01:43:56.300 All of that stuff. 01:43:56.300 --> 01:43:57.300 Sorry. 01:43:57.300 --> 01:44:03.300 I'm just thinking about a box with everyone. 01:44:03.300 --> 01:44:05.300 My kids having outdoor adventure. 01:44:05.300 --> 01:44:09.300 And, you know, we talked about the look to get kids there. 01:44:09.300 --> 01:44:11.300 There's a way to collaborate that. 01:44:11.300 --> 01:44:13.300 You know, the wealthy center. 01:44:13.300 --> 01:44:14.300 We're busting up here and there. 01:44:14.300 --> 01:44:16.300 And there's a good collaborate. 01:44:16.300 --> 01:44:21.300 Some of that outdoor adventure things that I don't like kids did with. 01:44:22.300 --> 01:44:24.300 This is Josh, I can't remember who it was. 01:44:24.300 --> 01:44:27.300 But anyways, you know, those fun type things. 01:44:27.300 --> 01:44:29.300 The wealthy center does campers. 01:44:29.300 --> 01:44:31.300 The wealthy center does this. 01:44:31.300 --> 01:44:32.300 They do bonfires. 01:44:32.300 --> 01:44:36.300 You know, I don't want to get way out of the way from what this is. 01:44:36.300 --> 01:44:39.300 But going back to it, it couldn't be money. 01:44:39.300 --> 01:44:41.300 I'll say that in money making. 01:44:41.300 --> 01:44:45.300 But at least get the kids interested in staying on throughout the summer. 01:44:45.300 --> 01:44:49.300 Because if you attend, we'll do this at the end of the day. 01:44:49.300 --> 01:44:50.300 That's what I meant. 01:44:50.300 --> 01:44:52.300 Anyway, that's enough. 01:44:52.300 --> 01:44:54.300 Thank you, Michelle. 01:44:54.300 --> 01:44:58.300 Our next one is the human growth and development update. 01:44:58.300 --> 01:45:00.300 It was like rhyming is that one. 01:45:00.300 --> 01:45:01.300 All right. 01:45:01.300 --> 01:45:03.300 Nice to have you. 01:45:03.300 --> 01:45:04.300 Thank you. 01:45:04.300 --> 01:45:05.300 Okay. 01:45:05.300 --> 01:45:08.300 So we're providing a little bit of background. 01:45:08.300 --> 01:45:11.300 Because I've done some background. 01:45:11.300 --> 01:45:14.300 The journey is mistaken. 01:45:14.300 --> 01:45:19.300 So back in all 25. 01:45:19.300 --> 01:45:25.300 If this had come to the board, this would have been happening. 01:45:25.300 --> 01:45:30.300 Then it would be made this last May of 26th. 01:45:30.300 --> 01:45:36.300 The human growth and development brought back to this committee. 01:45:36.300 --> 01:45:41.300 But then it was not moved to the full board for the cool one. 01:45:42.300 --> 01:45:56.300 So the update from TLE is that we are set to go if approved during the month of August. 01:45:56.300 --> 01:45:59.300 The district began preparing for a day through 12. 01:45:59.300 --> 01:46:04.300 The human growth and development occurred in one review process. 01:46:04.300 --> 01:46:10.300 Blackboard messages sent to district families, the right of parents and community members to express interest 01:46:10.300 --> 01:46:14.300 in serving on the human growth and development of the new committee. 01:46:14.300 --> 01:46:20.300 And today, seven individuals have completed the interest survey. 01:46:20.300 --> 01:46:25.300 The district is continuing to assemble a committee that reflects representation 01:46:25.300 --> 01:46:27.300 acquired by Wisconsin law. 01:46:27.300 --> 01:46:37.300 So we have a student services staff member and two health teachers to serve on the committee. 01:46:37.300 --> 01:46:42.300 As part of the process, they would explain the current curriculum answer questions. 01:46:42.300 --> 01:46:47.300 Classroom context throughout the review process. 01:46:47.300 --> 01:46:54.300 As part of the community makeup, the district would also like one board of education on earth to serve on the committee. 01:46:54.300 --> 01:46:59.300 It's going to help round out the district representation on the team. 01:46:59.300 --> 01:47:06.300 The district did convene its health teachers in grades 16 to 12 to begin developing an inventory of the human growth 01:47:06.300 --> 01:47:11.300 and development lessons currently taught within the district's health courses. 01:47:11.300 --> 01:47:17.300 And for each lesson, these teachers are identifying contact and address 01:47:17.300 --> 01:47:20.300 and that's a connection to your applicant's state statutes. 01:47:20.300 --> 01:47:27.300 The health teachers will continue building this document so the review committee has a clear and accurate picture 01:47:27.300 --> 01:47:29.300 of the current curriculum at its first meeting. 01:47:29.300 --> 01:47:32.300 Are we doing that? 01:47:32.300 --> 01:47:37.300 We need an effectively scheduled for October 14th. 01:47:37.300 --> 01:47:43.300 And at that meeting, members will review the committee's responsibilities 01:47:43.300 --> 01:47:49.300 with Wisconsin statutes and the district's current human growth and development curriculum. 01:47:49.300 --> 01:47:58.300 We're bringing here today which committee needs to decide if we want to move 01:47:58.300 --> 01:48:03.300 the department. 01:48:03.300 --> 01:48:06.300 Thank you, Ryan. 01:48:06.300 --> 01:48:15.300 So, the biggest question is, do we move forward right now? 01:48:15.300 --> 01:48:19.300 If you make an answer, Henry. 01:48:19.300 --> 01:48:20.300 Go ahead, Megan. 01:48:20.300 --> 01:48:21.300 Thank you. 01:48:21.300 --> 01:48:22.300 Thank you so much. 01:48:23.300 --> 01:48:26.300 I was looking through what was presented. 01:48:26.300 --> 01:48:28.300 I mean, I don't know, maybe I'm missing something. 01:48:28.300 --> 01:48:30.300 I mean, it seems like we're ready to roll. 01:48:30.300 --> 01:48:33.300 I mean, I think you've got a nice letter drafted. 01:48:33.300 --> 01:48:36.300 It looks like we've got kind of those scheduled follow-up dates. 01:48:36.300 --> 01:48:41.300 I know we need to get this done to be in compliance with the state policy. 01:48:41.300 --> 01:48:48.300 So, like, I guess my only question would be what would be the barriers if any to moving forward? 01:48:52.300 --> 01:49:00.300 I think just right now having a new superintendent, new assistant superintendent, having the 01:49:00.300 --> 01:49:04.300 from random conversations, being a big part of what they're doing right now. 01:49:04.300 --> 01:49:09.300 This is just another big lift at the same time. 01:49:09.300 --> 01:49:10.300 Okay. 01:49:10.300 --> 01:49:16.300 Well, I will certainly defer to the administration, but I don't see any reason not to move forward 01:49:16.300 --> 01:49:21.300 from a board perspective, but like, that's not to say that I wouldn't fully respect and 01:49:21.300 --> 01:49:24.300 support whatever timeline our administration is comfortable with. 01:49:24.300 --> 01:49:29.300 So I guess I would just like to hear more about like, you know, what, what makes sense, I guess, 01:49:29.300 --> 01:49:30.300 to the administration. 01:49:30.300 --> 01:49:35.300 And I'm already one of seven and fully prepared to support moving this forward. 01:49:35.300 --> 01:49:39.300 However, it makes sense to them. 01:49:39.300 --> 01:49:41.300 Yeah. 01:49:41.300 --> 01:49:42.300 Thank you. 01:49:42.300 --> 01:49:46.300 I'm a little taken aback that we're this far in the process. 01:49:46.300 --> 01:49:49.300 It hasn't gone to the board yet for approval. 01:49:49.300 --> 01:49:57.300 And I've been on the board when we did the ad hoc committee, the Carol chair, and I will 01:49:57.300 --> 01:49:58.300 rigor my role. 01:49:58.300 --> 01:50:01.300 We had to go through to do that with board approval. 01:50:01.300 --> 01:50:08.300 And it looks like, reading what I've read, that we've already started all this stuff about board approval. 01:50:08.300 --> 01:50:10.300 We did it through the back end. 01:50:10.300 --> 01:50:13.300 You know, the committee may have, but it didn't go to the board. 01:50:13.300 --> 01:50:15.300 Is that true or true? 01:50:15.300 --> 01:50:17.300 Did the board ever come? 01:50:17.300 --> 01:50:18.300 The planning part. 01:50:18.300 --> 01:50:19.300 Sorry? 01:50:19.300 --> 01:50:20.300 The planning part. 01:50:20.300 --> 01:50:22.300 Did the board approve? 01:50:22.300 --> 01:50:24.300 The committee approved the planning. 01:50:24.300 --> 01:50:27.300 The committee that's the house, it never came to board. 01:50:27.300 --> 01:50:30.300 That's the went to the board last fall. 01:50:30.300 --> 01:50:32.300 I'm asking a question. 01:50:32.300 --> 01:50:33.300 Oh, okay. 01:50:33.300 --> 01:50:34.300 I'm sorry. 01:50:34.300 --> 01:50:38.300 Did the board approve putting together an ad hoc committee to study this? 01:50:38.300 --> 01:50:39.300 The committee did. 01:50:39.300 --> 01:50:40.300 The committee did. 01:50:40.300 --> 01:50:47.300 But the committee needs the full board to act on it before we address the ad hoc committee. 01:50:47.300 --> 01:50:48.300 No. 01:50:48.300 --> 01:50:52.300 The committee approves forming with the ad hoc. 01:50:52.300 --> 01:50:54.300 We present it on the board. 01:50:54.300 --> 01:50:58.300 No, you present the whole thing with the list of people to the board. 01:50:58.300 --> 01:50:59.300 I disagree. 01:50:59.300 --> 01:51:02.300 Because I remember, I'm sorry, respectfully. 01:51:02.300 --> 01:51:08.300 We came to the board and then we, the board put people's names in the ad. 01:51:08.300 --> 01:51:11.300 And then it went through this John Watson thing. 01:51:11.300 --> 01:51:13.300 I'm trying to co-mingle things. 01:51:13.300 --> 01:51:16.300 But I just think this has gone a step. 01:51:16.300 --> 01:51:20.300 And I remember I was part of the process of putting it to go to the board. 01:51:20.300 --> 01:51:25.300 But in my recollection, it never went to the board for a pool room. 01:51:25.300 --> 01:51:28.300 So it's the cart before the horse. 01:51:28.300 --> 01:51:32.300 You've already started in distributing some of these things. 01:51:32.300 --> 01:51:35.300 Calendar dates and committees and people and stuff. 01:51:36.300 --> 01:51:37.300 So long. 01:51:37.300 --> 01:51:40.300 I just, I don't think it went to the board for approval. 01:51:40.300 --> 01:51:44.300 This is my second ad hoc that I was part of. 01:51:44.300 --> 01:51:55.300 And both of them, we came up with the proposal, the list of people and brought it to the board for approval. 01:51:55.300 --> 01:51:57.300 This is not my recollection. 01:51:57.300 --> 01:52:01.300 But I defer back to whatever policy says. 01:52:02.300 --> 01:52:07.300 I think that's what policy says. 01:52:07.300 --> 01:52:09.300 I, that's not my recollection. 01:52:09.300 --> 01:52:11.300 It's always the board for approval. 01:52:11.300 --> 01:52:17.300 And then we go on with the process of performing the executive committee. 01:52:17.300 --> 01:52:20.300 Can I clarify? 01:52:20.300 --> 01:52:21.300 Yeah. 01:52:21.300 --> 01:52:26.300 So Tom, the committee that Carol had was a board committee. 01:52:26.300 --> 01:52:30.300 That's why the board picked the membership and stuff originally. 01:52:31.300 --> 01:52:35.300 Then the second time around for the committee that Carol chaired. 01:52:35.300 --> 01:52:38.300 The board said it doesn't have to be a board committee. 01:52:38.300 --> 01:52:45.300 This can just be a committee off of the business operation and finance committee. 01:52:45.300 --> 01:52:49.300 But we're okay if the same membership is there. 01:52:49.300 --> 01:52:51.300 Since it was already successful. 01:52:51.300 --> 01:52:53.300 That was a board action. 01:52:53.300 --> 01:52:54.300 Right. 01:52:54.300 --> 01:52:55.300 Right. 01:52:56.300 --> 01:53:00.300 So the difference is this is a committee. 01:53:00.300 --> 01:53:04.300 This is an ad hoc committee of a subcommittee. 01:53:04.300 --> 01:53:10.300 So when the, when the, when the committee. 01:53:10.300 --> 01:53:19.300 In this case, the committee is ready to bring it to the board to say, hey, we're ready to form this committee. 01:53:19.300 --> 01:53:23.300 And here's the people that we want to serve on this committee. 01:53:23.300 --> 01:53:28.300 They'll bring it to the board and say, can you approve this committee now? 01:53:28.300 --> 01:53:32.300 And they haven't done that yet because they don't have their full membership. 01:53:32.300 --> 01:53:36.300 And when they first approved it back in May. 01:53:36.300 --> 01:53:44.300 They, they weren't ready to come forward because all they were doing was saying to the administrative type people. 01:53:44.300 --> 01:53:48.300 Yes, we want to do this, but we need to form the committee. 01:53:48.300 --> 01:53:52.300 We need to find people to serve on the committee and then we'll take it to the board. 01:53:52.300 --> 01:54:00.300 Because the board policy doesn't say, you have to say, yes, we're going to have a committee and take it to the board. 01:54:00.300 --> 01:54:02.300 Yes, we're going to have this membership and take it to the board. 01:54:02.300 --> 01:54:03.300 There's no timeline. 01:54:03.300 --> 01:54:07.300 It just says it has to be approved by the board at some point. 01:54:07.300 --> 01:54:08.300 And that's my point. 01:54:08.300 --> 01:54:11.300 I'm, I'm, I'm. 01:54:11.300 --> 01:54:12.300 Okay. 01:54:12.300 --> 01:54:17.300 So everything you said, this whole. 01:54:17.300 --> 01:54:19.300 They have to have board action. 01:54:19.300 --> 01:54:20.300 Great. 01:54:20.300 --> 01:54:21.300 Let's go ahead. 01:54:21.300 --> 01:54:22.300 We're moving forward in this way. 01:54:22.300 --> 01:54:23.300 Great. 01:54:23.300 --> 01:54:24.300 But it does not say. 01:54:24.300 --> 01:54:28.300 What Ryan is saying, and whoever. 01:54:28.300 --> 01:54:30.300 I'm not saying that's known for it. 01:54:30.300 --> 01:54:32.300 I'm just saying it needs more approval. 01:54:32.300 --> 01:54:33.300 That's all I'm saying. 01:54:33.300 --> 01:54:34.300 Yes. 01:54:34.300 --> 01:54:35.300 Thank you. 01:54:35.300 --> 01:54:36.300 Good night. 01:54:36.300 --> 01:54:37.300 I'm sorry. 01:54:37.300 --> 01:54:40.300 I totally agree with your saying. 01:54:40.300 --> 01:54:41.300 Okay. 01:54:41.300 --> 01:54:42.300 No, I'm not. 01:54:42.300 --> 01:54:43.300 I'm not. 01:54:43.300 --> 01:54:44.300 Sorry. 01:54:44.300 --> 01:54:45.300 I don't know. 01:54:45.300 --> 01:54:47.300 You're saying the board never approved all this. 01:54:47.300 --> 01:54:52.300 But I understand the background work between them with board approval. 01:54:52.300 --> 01:54:54.300 Then the gears will turn. 01:54:54.300 --> 01:54:57.300 The board didn't have to approve the plan. 01:54:57.300 --> 01:54:59.300 I did not say that. 01:54:59.300 --> 01:55:04.300 I said, whatever the, whatever the background material that Ryan just provided. 01:55:04.300 --> 01:55:05.300 It's fine. 01:55:06.300 --> 01:55:12.300 But it still needs more approval before the mechanism turns that we get this committee. 01:55:12.300 --> 01:55:13.300 Sorry. 01:55:13.300 --> 01:55:20.300 Which is why he asked for the committee to make a motion to send it to the board tonight. 01:55:20.300 --> 01:55:22.300 I thought we had that. 01:55:22.300 --> 01:55:24.300 Going back to now. 01:55:24.300 --> 01:55:25.300 No. 01:55:25.300 --> 01:55:26.300 Okay. 01:55:26.300 --> 01:55:27.300 I'm just trying to clarify. 01:55:27.300 --> 01:55:28.300 I know. 01:55:28.300 --> 01:55:29.300 I'm not arguing. 01:55:29.300 --> 01:55:30.300 I know. 01:55:30.300 --> 01:55:31.300 You're just trying to understand. 01:55:31.300 --> 01:55:35.300 We're trying to explain what happened on the process. 01:55:35.300 --> 01:55:36.300 It needs more approval. 01:55:36.300 --> 01:55:37.300 And that's all I'm saying. 01:55:37.300 --> 01:55:38.300 Yep. 01:55:38.300 --> 01:55:39.300 It needs more. 01:55:39.300 --> 01:55:40.300 The board. 01:55:40.300 --> 01:55:41.300 The board. 01:55:41.300 --> 01:55:42.300 That's all I'm saying. 01:55:42.300 --> 01:55:43.300 Yep. 01:55:43.300 --> 01:55:45.300 For all the same age. 01:55:45.300 --> 01:55:46.300 Yep. 01:55:46.300 --> 01:55:49.300 So the other part that I wasn't thinking about. 01:55:49.300 --> 01:55:52.300 We were bringing up all of that is we no longer have Michelle. 01:55:53.300 --> 01:56:00.300 Our nursing staff is red center this year. 01:56:00.300 --> 01:56:02.300 Then they were in past years. 01:56:02.300 --> 01:56:06.300 They're a big part of the heavy lift with this. 01:56:06.300 --> 01:56:07.300 Correct. 01:56:07.300 --> 01:56:10.300 Michelle would have been a big part of it. 01:56:10.300 --> 01:56:11.300 Right. 01:56:11.300 --> 01:56:12.300 Yeah. 01:56:12.300 --> 01:56:14.300 So do we. 01:56:14.300 --> 01:56:18.300 Doesn't make more sense for us to pause for right now. 01:56:18.300 --> 01:56:19.300 Through the fall. 01:56:19.300 --> 01:56:22.300 Figure out the nursing department. 01:56:22.300 --> 01:56:29.300 Get through the referendum stuff and then go full speed on this. 01:56:29.300 --> 01:56:30.300 Trying to ask a question. 01:56:30.300 --> 01:56:31.300 Yes. 01:56:31.300 --> 01:56:33.300 This is a non committee member of questions. 01:56:33.300 --> 01:56:36.300 I haven't been in the earlier discussions. 01:56:36.300 --> 01:56:39.300 I don't know for Lee and Ryan. 01:56:39.300 --> 01:56:41.300 Are we doing a good job in this world? 01:56:41.300 --> 01:56:44.300 Do we need to do we need to make a bunch of changes right now? 01:56:44.300 --> 01:56:46.300 Are we mean the classes are being taught. 01:56:46.300 --> 01:56:47.300 They're well received. 01:56:47.300 --> 01:56:52.300 I mean, what's your sense of it? 01:56:52.300 --> 01:56:57.300 So I haven't talked to my department. 01:56:57.300 --> 01:57:01.300 It hasn't been reviewed. 01:57:01.300 --> 01:57:04.300 They just made concern. 01:57:04.300 --> 01:57:05.300 I don't know what that means. 01:57:05.300 --> 01:57:06.300 Five years. 01:57:06.300 --> 01:57:07.300 Twenty-five years. 01:57:07.300 --> 01:57:08.300 Ten years. 01:57:08.300 --> 01:57:15.300 So that means we can continue in this current place. 01:57:15.300 --> 01:57:20.300 If given that direction. 01:57:20.300 --> 01:57:21.300 No. 01:57:21.300 --> 01:57:22.300 No. 01:57:22.300 --> 01:57:23.300 I had it all the way. 01:57:23.300 --> 01:57:29.300 Because I mean, of course, I do think direction. 01:57:29.300 --> 01:57:38.300 No, I'm just trying to get a sense of, yeah, you know, to get to Joanne's question is, you know, is there capacity right now in that, you know, it's a do. 01:57:38.300 --> 01:57:39.300 It was due last year. 01:57:39.300 --> 01:57:40.300 It was due next year. 01:57:40.300 --> 01:57:41.300 It's due this year. 01:57:41.300 --> 01:57:44.300 You know, it's, there's not a statutory requirement of when we need to do this. 01:57:44.300 --> 01:57:46.300 It just read the statutes. 01:57:46.300 --> 01:57:52.300 But it's fairly specific statute of what you have to meet. 01:57:52.300 --> 01:57:55.300 So do you guys have a sense? 01:57:55.300 --> 01:57:56.300 I think you can follow up. 01:57:56.300 --> 01:58:00.300 Do you guys have a sense if you would you rather put it off a year? 01:58:00.300 --> 01:58:03.300 And we all kind of get the stuffing. 01:58:03.300 --> 01:58:08.300 People are all available discussion. 01:58:08.300 --> 01:58:10.300 We have the other. 01:58:10.300 --> 01:58:13.300 Do you like for him? 01:58:13.300 --> 01:58:14.300 Yeah. 01:58:14.300 --> 01:58:15.300 Well, before. 01:58:15.300 --> 01:58:21.300 Does it take that opportunity to change the curriculum? 01:58:21.300 --> 01:58:24.300 It's a very specific. 01:58:24.300 --> 01:58:26.300 It's like how many members? 01:58:26.300 --> 01:58:27.300 One, four, one, quarter. 01:58:27.300 --> 01:58:29.300 I know it's very specific. 01:58:29.300 --> 01:58:30.300 Yeah. 01:58:30.300 --> 01:58:33.300 So to change the curriculum or even look at it, you can add up. 01:58:33.300 --> 01:58:34.300 Yeah. 01:58:34.300 --> 01:58:35.300 Thank you. 01:58:35.300 --> 01:58:37.300 Sorry about that. 01:58:38.300 --> 01:58:39.300 I agree with Joanne. 01:58:39.300 --> 01:58:41.300 I think we need to pause it in. 01:58:41.300 --> 01:58:43.300 I think we got enough. 01:58:43.300 --> 01:58:47.300 With the referendum and other stuff going on to. 01:58:47.300 --> 01:58:49.300 And that's not important. 01:58:49.300 --> 01:58:50.300 But. 01:58:50.300 --> 01:58:55.300 Put forward with what we're doing now. 01:58:55.300 --> 01:58:56.300 Yeah. 01:58:56.300 --> 01:59:00.300 Oh, here. 01:59:00.300 --> 01:59:02.300 Hey, thanks, Joanne. 01:59:03.300 --> 01:59:08.300 I have a question that is actually for Dr. Stingle and possibly Dr. 01:59:08.300 --> 01:59:09.300 Gordon. 01:59:09.300 --> 01:59:14.300 And the question is, in terms of establishing this ad hoc 01:59:14.300 --> 01:59:17.300 committee, have we done anything. 01:59:17.300 --> 01:59:21.300 Outside of the clients with state statute. 01:59:21.300 --> 01:59:23.300 To this point. 01:59:23.300 --> 01:59:29.300 Did you stay outside of the guidance of the state statute? 01:59:30.300 --> 01:59:32.300 Yeah, yeah, because there is. 01:59:32.300 --> 01:59:34.300 I hear a lot of. 01:59:34.300 --> 01:59:36.300 It belongs to the committee. 01:59:36.300 --> 01:59:38.300 It belongs at four data, data, data. 01:59:38.300 --> 01:59:42.300 I just want to know that at this point, we are. 01:59:42.300 --> 01:59:45.300 We have not done anything outside of state. 01:59:49.300 --> 01:59:50.300 No. 01:59:50.300 --> 01:59:51.300 I'm. 01:59:52.300 --> 01:59:53.300 Okay. 01:59:53.300 --> 01:59:54.300 Okay. 01:59:54.300 --> 01:59:55.300 So. 01:59:55.300 --> 01:59:56.300 That's my next. 01:59:56.300 --> 01:59:57.300 It's just. 01:59:57.300 --> 02:00:01.300 Very similar to Dan. 02:00:01.300 --> 02:00:04.300 What is the capacity of. 02:00:04.300 --> 02:00:10.300 The administration right now to be involved in guiding and helping 02:00:10.300 --> 02:00:12.300 with this ad hoc committee. 02:00:13.300 --> 02:00:20.300 Here. 02:00:20.300 --> 02:00:21.300 What's your capacity? 02:00:21.300 --> 02:00:23.300 What's your capacity? 02:00:23.300 --> 02:00:24.300 The administration. 02:00:24.300 --> 02:00:25.300 Oh. 02:00:25.300 --> 02:00:30.300 Is this another place you want to spend right now? 02:00:30.300 --> 02:00:31.300 I know. 02:00:31.300 --> 02:00:32.300 I know. 02:00:32.300 --> 02:00:33.300 I know. 02:00:33.300 --> 02:00:34.300 I know. 02:00:34.300 --> 02:00:35.300 Can you agree? 02:00:35.300 --> 02:00:36.300 To speak candidly. 02:00:36.300 --> 02:00:37.300 Yeah. 02:00:37.300 --> 02:00:38.300 I have enough. 02:00:39.300 --> 02:00:40.300 Right. 02:00:40.300 --> 02:00:41.300 Should be done as directed by the. 02:00:41.300 --> 02:00:42.300 At a school board. 02:00:42.300 --> 02:00:45.300 And I do believe you have some point this is an important work. 02:00:45.300 --> 02:00:46.300 That should occur. 02:00:46.300 --> 02:00:47.300 It's long overdue. 02:00:47.300 --> 02:00:49.300 I appreciate your candidness. 02:00:49.300 --> 02:00:50.300 No. 02:00:50.300 --> 02:00:53.300 And there is a point where you say we can't do this as well. 02:00:53.300 --> 02:00:54.300 We need to wait. 02:00:55.300 --> 02:00:56.300 Right. 02:00:56.300 --> 02:00:57.300 That's correct. 02:00:57.300 --> 02:01:01.300 But there are the points to where we have to, you know, 02:01:01.300 --> 02:01:03.300 acknowledge that we don't have to run the district. 02:01:03.300 --> 02:01:04.300 Yeah. 02:01:04.300 --> 02:01:05.300 Yeah. 02:01:05.300 --> 02:01:06.300 So, you know, the. 02:01:06.300 --> 02:01:07.300 The cooperative. 02:01:07.300 --> 02:01:08.300 Whatever. 02:01:08.300 --> 02:01:09.300 Just. 02:01:09.300 --> 02:01:10.300 It's really essential at this point. 02:01:10.300 --> 02:01:11.300 Because we all have to. 02:01:11.300 --> 02:01:12.300 Answer public. 02:01:12.300 --> 02:01:13.300 I don't know. 02:01:13.300 --> 02:01:14.300 I don't know. 02:01:14.300 --> 02:01:15.300 I don't know. 02:01:15.300 --> 02:01:16.300 I don't know. 02:01:16.300 --> 02:01:17.300 I don't know. 02:01:17.300 --> 02:01:18.300 I don't know. 02:01:18.300 --> 02:01:19.300 I don't know. 02:01:19.300 --> 02:01:20.300 I don't know. 02:01:20.300 --> 02:01:21.300 I don't know. 02:01:22.300 --> 02:01:23.300 Okay. 02:01:23.300 --> 02:01:24.300 Let's see. 02:01:24.300 --> 02:01:25.300 What we're trying to. 02:01:25.300 --> 02:01:26.300 Is really important. 02:01:26.300 --> 02:01:27.300 So, we're trying to, 02:01:27.300 --> 02:01:29.300 everybody. 02:01:29.300 --> 02:01:30.300 And so, 02:01:30.300 --> 02:01:31.300 speaking up, 02:01:31.300 --> 02:01:32.300 Megan has their injuries. 02:01:32.300 --> 02:01:33.300 Sure. 02:01:33.300 --> 02:01:34.300 Two. 02:01:34.300 --> 02:01:35.300 Two. 02:01:35.300 --> 02:01:36.300 Team. 02:01:36.300 --> 02:01:37.300 Two. 02:01:37.300 --> 02:01:38.300 Chain room. 02:01:38.300 --> 02:01:39.300 Go in. 02:01:39.300 --> 02:01:41.300 Yeah. 02:01:41.300 --> 02:01:43.300 Dr. Stengel's voice is very soft. 02:01:43.300 --> 02:01:44.300 Can you. 02:01:44.300 --> 02:01:46.300 Free phrase what he said. 02:01:46.300 --> 02:01:55.420 what he said. So Dr. Sengel said it in if he was being candid that he has a lot going 02:01:55.420 --> 02:02:03.300 on right now but he will do whatever the board wants him to do. It also has like I don't want 02:02:03.300 --> 02:02:11.620 this to be a Dr. Sengel. Yes and this isn't it's not a and then Dr. Gordon said that this 02:02:11.620 --> 02:02:16.760 is a decision that all of us need to weigh in on and that we all need to own our part 02:02:16.760 --> 02:02:25.400 in the decision. I think. Yeah I mean we have a lot going on. We do have a lot of it. Yes 02:02:25.400 --> 02:02:32.300 a great question. Yeah go ahead. Just real quick one one way we could just as a board 02:02:32.300 --> 02:02:40.180 member suggestion would be kind of get either actually take a motion at some point or have 02:02:40.180 --> 02:02:45.340 a sense of the board. We seem to have consensus that yes this is on our list. Yes we have to get 02:02:45.340 --> 02:02:51.220 to it but we right now we might have the capacity to do it so we should set a target of when we 02:02:51.220 --> 02:02:57.340 want to do that. So if we sort of put it on the next fall type of thing prepare whenever the 02:02:57.340 --> 02:03:03.700 right time to have the board approval is or spring whenever going in the spring of it. So I'd be 02:03:03.700 --> 02:03:09.800 very comfortable with you know studying a target date maybe not a hard target but right 02:03:09.800 --> 02:03:18.080 sense of the committee and sense of the board. Megan no it's all going to actually board 02:03:18.080 --> 02:03:24.020 President Johnson and I I think had similar questions so I'll just kind of to clarify and 02:03:24.020 --> 02:03:33.140 then offer a path forward to clarify there's not any consequence that we need to be concerned 02:03:33.180 --> 02:03:41.660 about for you know sort of like taking a pretty long time to to update our our policy and curriculum 02:03:41.660 --> 02:03:52.220 is so is that or is that not a concern. We are we are okay. Okay perfect so I would just say I do 02:03:52.220 --> 02:03:58.420 think I'm just going to agree with Mr. Shuff like I think it would be I would feel personally 02:03:58.420 --> 02:04:06.500 comfortable moving approval to like you know direct the administration to like at a timeline 02:04:06.500 --> 02:04:12.300 that that they propose to move forward. I think the plans that they shared are very sound. I don't 02:04:12.300 --> 02:04:18.220 have a super strong opinion about like oh no we have to get it done by like December so again I 02:04:18.220 --> 02:04:25.180 think like Leah and Ryan like whatever you think is appropriate for the you laid out just this 02:04:25.220 --> 02:04:32.340 last this past Monday meeting like this very well articulated plan with a timeline so as you guys 02:04:32.340 --> 02:04:36.380 kind of continue to work through that process I guess I would just ask if we could just maybe get 02:04:36.380 --> 02:04:43.100 some kind of an update whenever it makes sense to do that maybe prior to next year like next 02:04:43.100 --> 02:04:48.260 calendar year like hey this is where we're at with this but otherwise like it sounds like we have 02:04:48.260 --> 02:04:52.660 a good plan it sounds like we have consensus it sounds like the board is like good to move forward 02:04:52.700 --> 02:04:57.940 and we that we all want to respect a timeline that you believe is you know feasible. 02:05:02.580 --> 02:05:08.980 I can't wait to get a piggybacking whatever they're going yes absolutely I think that between 02:05:08.980 --> 02:05:17.100 Joanne Ryan administration make a month of a timeline as we had before instructed how this 02:05:17.100 --> 02:05:23.220 happens we let the powers of be if we look at it in January February marks able made to the 02:05:23.220 --> 02:05:30.820 board changes but yes I think you got a timeline which is compatible with a sense for everybody 02:05:30.820 --> 02:05:38.620 and then come back to TLA and say how about we put this on the back or whatever that's my 02:05:38.620 --> 02:05:47.420 comment you guys all right so speaking the motion is that your motion time no you got that 02:05:47.420 --> 02:05:58.860 Michelle I know that the human growth curriculum you looked at at a future date yet to be decided 02:05:58.860 --> 02:06:10.940 by administration and GLE chair and do you mean by human growth curriculum the advisory committee 02:06:10.940 --> 02:06:18.860 for human growth and development well it's all related to look at the curriculum to be yeah for 02:06:18.860 --> 02:06:24.740 a timeline for you guys submit something back to this committee would say okay sometimes you 02:06:24.740 --> 02:06:35.460 think well it was kind of happened I think to dance point I do like a finite I was like a 02:06:35.460 --> 02:06:41.220 finite at least look at yeah you know we decided January February marks whatever that date is 02:06:41.220 --> 02:06:49.660 it's not ready yet okay we spent a finite date that's my opinion what April or 02:06:50.540 --> 02:06:58.460 why I'm saying I'm going back to what let administration bring that be about and present to you 02:06:58.460 --> 02:07:07.420 ideally agenda item I think it needs to be at least during the school year at some point I think the 02:07:07.420 --> 02:07:13.980 public wants to see it let me see if I got this right all right maybe if I add look too much you 02:07:13.980 --> 02:07:20.860 could let me know so most to have the human growth and development curriculum be reviewed by 02:07:20.860 --> 02:07:26.620 an advisory committee at a future time I'm not saying that I'm saying to review by 02:07:26.620 --> 02:07:36.460 the committee I'm saying administration is going to tell us when to do this they already got the 02:07:36.460 --> 02:07:49.020 plans I'm not saying what I'm saying motion is that we're tabling yes you're postponing it correct 02:07:49.500 --> 02:07:55.020 and that what administration guide us to the timeline to resolve again to theory 02:07:56.140 --> 02:08:06.140 move to post-home the review of the human growth and development curriculum review oversight 02:08:06.140 --> 02:08:11.660 what everyone okay during the school year yeah well over time well that's one too not the not 02:08:11.660 --> 02:08:17.660 let me ask clarifying questions you're suggesting that they come back to us during the school year 02:08:17.660 --> 02:08:23.820 not to do the work but to to like come back with a plan during the school year was their timeline 02:08:23.820 --> 02:08:30.460 yeah yeah it makes sense do we want to review the prior's next year well you said the school year 02:08:30.460 --> 02:08:37.900 that's three years I admit their three things are done by December so I mean if they started in April 02:08:37.900 --> 02:08:45.900 or May and yeah we'll see you down by beginning the next school year 02:08:45.900 --> 02:08:50.140 the direction that the timeline out to the administration that we would like to work in 02:08:50.140 --> 02:08:58.380 on the years prior to the 20s that's why I'll agree with that yes that we're important to set 02:08:58.380 --> 02:09:02.300 that to restrict the rhyme and yeah what you're reading next right 02:09:07.820 --> 02:09:10.060 okay 02:09:11.900 --> 02:09:19.020 where's jackpot who can first okay so I have moved to post-pawn the review of the human growth 02:09:19.020 --> 02:09:20.300 and development curriculum 02:09:20.540 --> 02:09:28.620 I had at a future time that's appropriate for administration and the TLE committee 02:09:33.500 --> 02:09:40.860 but prior to the start of the 27-28 school year is that what you were saying over there 02:09:41.420 --> 02:09:48.220 kind of just right and it runs the show on the timeline or it suggests the timeline 02:09:48.540 --> 02:09:54.380 so you don't want the TLE committee in there because I thought I heard them saying they 02:09:54.380 --> 02:09:58.140 wanted it to be collaborative which is why I added the TLE committee 02:09:58.140 --> 02:10:05.500 collaborative I like to collaborate yeah I mean it's going to come to TLE either way either way right 02:10:06.700 --> 02:10:10.220 so do you like this or do you want it oh that's fine you sure 02:10:10.780 --> 02:10:14.060 do you read it one more time or one more time okay 02:10:14.060 --> 02:10:17.900 moved to post-pawn the review of the human growth and development curriculum at a future 02:10:17.900 --> 02:10:23.660 time that's appropriate per administration and the TLE committee but prior to the start of the 02:10:23.660 --> 02:10:27.820 27-28 school year perfect do you imagine you guys okay 02:10:30.220 --> 02:10:35.180 I'm good yeah I don't love it but I'll take it 02:10:35.180 --> 02:10:41.820 you can help rewrite it 02:10:41.820 --> 02:10:47.500 yeah Michelle I'll second it okay then the three of us can vote on it all in favor 02:10:47.500 --> 02:10:59.580 I I sorry sorry all right so the next one is the elementary alternative education program 02:11:00.300 --> 02:11:08.140 and that one we are having Ryan again here they're up again 02:11:16.060 --> 02:11:26.780 sorry I call okay okay this is the share of plan to start 02:11:27.580 --> 02:11:31.020 the elementary alternative education program you're in school district 02:11:31.020 --> 02:11:37.340 employed so the background Dr. Wayne Anderson health school board began to keep discussing 02:11:37.340 --> 02:11:41.900 the development of a focus in the education program at the elementary school level 02:11:43.660 --> 02:11:51.340 okay so this is to present share share a plan with everybody 02:11:52.220 --> 02:11:54.460 so you have that in front of you I also 02:11:56.220 --> 02:12:00.620 kind of board docs here so the first slide is just a history 02:12:02.620 --> 02:12:10.460 school district played alternative locations currently we have the middle school alternative 02:12:10.460 --> 02:12:18.300 program at all of your middle school recently DLA has been moved to high school and 02:12:21.340 --> 02:12:28.060 the purpose and vision okay alternative education program design we want to provide 02:12:28.060 --> 02:12:32.780 a small highly structured and relationship based alternative educational setting 02:12:33.500 --> 02:12:41.980 or up to maximum 20 elementary students in grade 85 who would require the additional 02:12:41.980 --> 02:12:47.820 academic behavioral social emotional and or school engagement supports that cannot be effectively 02:12:47.820 --> 02:12:55.340 provided through a traditional intervention below so this one operated as a school with 02:12:55.340 --> 02:13:02.060 an in this in elementary school allowing students that are just a smaller more individualized 02:13:02.060 --> 02:13:08.700 environment it's intended to be temporary and an intensive level of support designed to help 02:13:08.700 --> 02:13:14.220 students build those academic skills behavioral skills social emotional and executive function 02:13:14.860 --> 02:13:21.020 so that they can train this back to their own school and be successful some rationale 02:13:21.900 --> 02:13:29.740 listed for you we want to have early academics interventions we want to be proactive about 02:13:29.740 --> 02:13:35.260 behavioral support we want it to be developmentally appropriate for students 02:13:36.460 --> 02:13:43.420 we really want to build a positive school connection association at a young age with these kids 02:13:44.700 --> 02:13:48.060 I've seen this at the middle school level actually where they kind of fall back and 02:13:48.060 --> 02:13:55.820 along with the school where they we want to get that at a young age and then wrap the family 02:13:55.820 --> 02:14:06.540 around and have a family centered approach so a statement of needs last year 25 26 with 21 02:14:06.540 --> 02:14:17.500 pre-explosions held for students in grade 85 I was trying to analyze the ODR data overall we 02:14:17.500 --> 02:14:24.460 did see an increase in ODRs at the elementary level last year the significant injuries 02:14:26.140 --> 02:14:34.860 transitioned into next path from frontline so it's not exactly set up as I see it but we can really 02:14:34.860 --> 02:14:40.860 drill down yet but I would love to do that at some point and really show us how we need 02:14:40.860 --> 02:14:50.540 based on ODR data as well and a broad idea that we need to provide we need to better meet individual 02:14:50.540 --> 02:14:57.660 needs elementary age kids who are not succeeding in the traditional school center so next slide 02:14:57.740 --> 02:15:05.340 there's some program goals so helping students build academic behavioral social and emotional 02:15:05.340 --> 02:15:12.460 areas of that so that they can learn those skills and move back to their own school at a more 02:15:12.460 --> 02:15:19.580 traditional educational setting we want to significant reduction in behaviors that interfere with our 02:15:19.580 --> 02:15:27.900 name and safety we want these students to learn and increase independent use of appropriate coping 02:15:27.900 --> 02:15:35.020 communication of proud self-instrainties we want to see that academic growth increase engagement 02:15:35.020 --> 02:15:42.700 with instruction and increase the ability to problem those trans routines regulate emotions 02:15:43.660 --> 02:15:50.220 and really participate without the need of intensive adult intervention at your own school 02:15:51.660 --> 02:15:57.900 we want to have successful participation in the students' only school and general educational 02:15:57.900 --> 02:16:03.740 environment upon the return and already mentioned that we want to see reduction in free expulsions 02:16:03.740 --> 02:16:10.140 and expulsion that the elementary level and a reduction of ODRs with students with significant 02:16:10.140 --> 02:16:18.460 behaviors that the elementary level so if we talk about admission criteria students will be 02:16:18.460 --> 02:16:26.780 referred to a building MLSS multi-level systems of support process placement really shouldn't 02:16:26.780 --> 02:16:33.820 that be considered as a first response to student difficulty the program should represent a more 02:16:34.460 --> 02:16:41.900 level of intervention after the school has identified tried all these different interventions 02:16:41.900 --> 02:16:49.180 when that was not an attorney how they have done working so i am here for you so step one 02:16:50.140 --> 02:16:56.060 if you want to identify identification of the student need and this is going through the MLSS 02:16:56.060 --> 02:17:00.300 team they want to look at all the data in front of you there 02:17:01.020 --> 02:17:08.300 um step two review of existing interventions so as part of the MLSS process 02:17:09.180 --> 02:17:13.260 these are some big questions that team at the building level would want to ask 02:17:14.620 --> 02:17:19.660 what interventions have been attempted at the building level are they being implemented consistently 02:17:21.180 --> 02:17:26.860 what data demonstrates the students' response to that intervention what barriers continue 02:17:26.860 --> 02:17:30.940 to interfere with the students success despite all of those interventions 02:17:32.060 --> 02:17:35.260 and would they benefit from a smaller or intensive environment 02:17:37.100 --> 02:17:44.860 then step three is the MLSS team recommendation so to get despite all of these interventions at 02:17:44.860 --> 02:17:53.180 the building level they continue to demonstrate significant needs the MLSS team may recommend 02:17:53.260 --> 02:18:00.460 consideration to the elementary alternative program or pro team and most those individuals 02:18:01.020 --> 02:18:07.100 are listed development all their admission criteria could be 02:18:09.020 --> 02:18:12.860 the two listed there they could be referred in lieu of free expulsion 02:18:13.820 --> 02:18:18.140 and they could also be placed at the alternative program through the free 02:18:18.140 --> 02:18:19.500 expulsion process 02:18:22.940 --> 02:18:30.540 special education students who receive services may participate in this elementary alternative 02:18:30.540 --> 02:18:37.980 program they'll continue to be provided with special education services related services will 02:18:37.980 --> 02:18:44.140 continue according to the student's IEP progress towards IEP will also continue to be monitored 02:18:44.940 --> 02:18:53.420 IEP team may determine a program of replacement services and the program could be considered 02:18:53.420 --> 02:19:01.260 as part of the student's continuum of supports so the program description location really 02:19:02.140 --> 02:19:09.820 still needs to be determined and with that we need to look at the different buildings and where 02:19:09.820 --> 02:19:14.460 it would be the best spot we need to talk to the building staff there building 02:19:15.100 --> 02:19:23.020 administration and do a lot of planning with that the staff in we're looking at one professional 02:19:23.020 --> 02:19:32.780 educator one regular education pair up and one special ed professional educator 02:19:33.340 --> 02:19:41.100 funding would be two federal one party and we're looking at two sessions so like one in the morning 02:19:41.820 --> 02:19:49.500 with the younger kids grades K32 and then um p.m. session for the older kids grades 35 and 02:19:49.500 --> 02:19:56.460 well we serve up to 10 um that may be kind of a high number so we would kind of gauge that as 02:19:56.540 --> 02:20:03.100 students can what the appropriate number would be if we want to stay at this point up to 10 02:20:04.220 --> 02:20:09.980 and the instruction should be flexible individualized and highly differentiated to make the games with 02:20:09.980 --> 02:20:19.500 students so the next slide is a overview of the program three to three and a half hours school 02:20:19.500 --> 02:20:26.460 day and we want to break it down roughly by one and one and a half hours of academic focus 02:20:27.900 --> 02:20:32.300 about an hour of really focusing on behavioral and social emotional learning 02:20:33.500 --> 02:20:40.060 and then one hour of AOE meetings like those morning meetings like character education 02:20:40.060 --> 02:20:47.420 teaching movement breaks and of course movement breaks and then other programming options 02:20:47.420 --> 02:20:51.980 that could be based on individual needs as behavioral health support of different outside 02:20:51.980 --> 02:21:01.500 agencies to provide these for those students curriculum and instruction um socially emotional 02:21:02.300 --> 02:21:12.220 as part of uh the character balance curriculum and having more most morning meetings that's 02:21:12.300 --> 02:21:18.780 a huge part of that uh ELN math is it is described for you there really um 02:21:21.500 --> 02:21:28.460 off of the student needs so differentiating it and giving the students what they what they need to be 02:21:28.460 --> 02:21:38.140 successful um there would be we're always like a lot of technology pulling back so we still did 02:21:38.140 --> 02:21:44.380 put in there used by Excel as a intervention because we don't want them to miss we don't want 02:21:44.380 --> 02:21:50.140 these students to assault on that technology based intervention when they were to move into the 02:21:51.420 --> 02:21:57.340 alternative program for really a lot of most of those other items are you know the beyond 02:22:01.180 --> 02:22:07.740 so the transition process the goal would be to minimize fear and establish immediate safety 02:22:08.620 --> 02:22:14.860 there would be an intake meeting with uh whatever that uh adulting would be with that principal 02:22:15.660 --> 02:22:24.060 the teacher the student and uh the family to provide a warm hand up the child and family 02:22:24.060 --> 02:22:30.940 we could visit the program and see the room get a tour before the official placement starts 02:22:31.100 --> 02:22:37.660 um the team would outline student concerns student goals program goals and provided to their 02:22:37.660 --> 02:22:46.300 like area stuff and uh similar to the middle school one currently in place a success plan would be 02:22:46.300 --> 02:22:51.900 drafted and finalized and reviewed in addition of the parent family agreement to contract for the 02:22:51.900 --> 02:22:59.580 center of the program expectations for productive and positive learning environment is quite a 02:22:59.580 --> 02:23:06.460 bit bottled off of the middle school students are expected to attend at least able percent 02:23:07.580 --> 02:23:15.340 in the engage they're reviewed track issues to see how they were doing on day to day or 02:23:15.340 --> 02:23:23.500 hour so we look for it's success rates at least 75% of the gay men maybe expect to follow rules 02:23:23.500 --> 02:23:32.060 and expectations based on the uh code of conduct and uh goal study and review so developed and 02:23:32.060 --> 02:23:38.780 review learning behavior goals weekly with students and families but this missile process 02:23:39.500 --> 02:23:46.380 typically um students would remain in the alternative program for about 10 to 12 weeks 02:23:47.180 --> 02:23:53.980 with an option to graduate attend classes at the post school so um based on progress for 02:23:53.980 --> 02:23:59.660 schools it's something we need success with at the middle school program it kind of to ease 02:23:59.660 --> 02:24:08.860 them back in anything especially we thought uh especially at a younger age um to use them into 02:24:08.860 --> 02:24:15.260 that transition and that's just with them in fact full-time into their own school so then 02:24:15.340 --> 02:24:19.180 a return of the students home school would be dependent on successful navigation of the 02:24:19.180 --> 02:24:24.780 expectations for a productive and positive learning experience and then a transition 02:24:25.500 --> 02:24:30.940 meeting upon return with their own school and so that we are making sure that they're being 02:24:30.940 --> 02:24:39.900 successful and set up for success and positive learning so the last slide um the administration 02:24:39.980 --> 02:24:45.980 recommends approval of the alternative education program beginning at the second semester at 02:24:45.980 --> 02:24:50.860 27 to provide a structured supportive educational environment for students who are not currently 02:24:50.860 --> 02:24:56.060 successful in the traditional study. Thank you. Any questions in the committee? 02:25:01.260 --> 02:25:08.940 I'll try to be brief. The students who I know you're modeling this a little bit on what happens 02:25:09.020 --> 02:25:14.460 what's going on in August but you're recreating something on a smaller scale or on a different 02:25:14.460 --> 02:25:17.660 scale through the grade in school right and 02:25:22.220 --> 02:25:28.220 the kids the students who may be placed in this and use talking about you know a student 02:25:28.220 --> 02:25:35.900 this may be something they're at GAST and this is that time we we transfer that person 02:25:35.980 --> 02:25:40.540 how does that process look like that is that a referral thing we let them come to 02:25:40.540 --> 02:25:45.260 the board action right I mean that's we're not through that a level yet we don't just be something 02:25:45.260 --> 02:25:53.740 in-house that they get they would never be that spaced that whoever would evaluate that for 02:25:53.740 --> 02:25:59.660 that person that students go to that building with all the accommodations there when they 02:25:59.660 --> 02:26:04.940 self-transport would that be a bust thing so it's repeated somewhere in the middle school 02:26:05.500 --> 02:26:10.700 the families would be responsible for transportation. Speaking of middle school I know 02:26:11.820 --> 02:26:17.820 well all are just and a good success right there for my knowledge. The CLC you know we're talking 02:26:17.820 --> 02:26:25.660 about CLC early when I said outreach you know do you know I'm sorry I lost record here but 02:26:26.460 --> 02:26:31.900 CLC did how many students were involved let's say the alternative program at 02:26:31.900 --> 02:26:37.900 Aldrich how many used the CLC after school stuff was that was there any correlation between the two 02:26:38.620 --> 02:26:44.780 there's some chef centers this year to help. Sorry I'm in the staff this time but I know it's totally 02:26:44.780 --> 02:26:51.340 separated yeah so they appear in the alternative program right you start your day and you know later 02:26:51.340 --> 02:26:57.500 you're right early and you're not you're not right so there's no correlation between 02:26:57.500 --> 02:27:06.380 the success rate between the two okay yeah all right okay thank you yeah yeah I like everything 02:27:06.380 --> 02:27:13.740 about this but I just don't I'm not sure about maintaining a weekly attendance rate of 80 percent 02:27:13.740 --> 02:27:19.420 so you're allowed to miss one day a week and that's the part where you all in it but yeah 02:27:19.420 --> 02:27:26.380 the expectation of course is serious there every day yeah I think we were like we want to set 02:27:27.580 --> 02:27:35.100 some sort of a number where we can say okay if you're not being at least this we could be 02:27:35.100 --> 02:27:43.820 just a problem. And for example wouldn't 80 percent be a huge improvement like I think that's 02:27:43.820 --> 02:27:49.820 one of the reasons why we have some kids with some struggles and they don't come so 80 percent 02:27:49.820 --> 02:27:57.820 might be well a big stretch for some of our students. I mean when we're getting young and we want to 02:27:57.820 --> 02:28:05.020 get them there to realize that it's one day a week isn't good and what we've seen at the middle 02:28:05.020 --> 02:28:16.460 school too is we they do they get that into a last attention and they want to they want to be there 02:28:17.020 --> 02:28:25.180 so we we have seen pretty good attendance at the middle school program because they do 02:28:25.980 --> 02:28:31.180 they do start to associate young students after that school they have been coming to a school 02:28:34.140 --> 02:28:37.980 and building up that confidence yeah then yeah 02:28:41.660 --> 02:28:46.860 sorry so when you do or when you do get into this process hopefully this will happen in the 02:28:46.940 --> 02:28:51.180 fight and when you do or change or find the school 02:28:55.740 --> 02:29:00.620 as you went through with open literacy and taraq and you go to a school that really wants 02:29:00.620 --> 02:29:07.660 to sit there like and the administration of that building wants this because I think we all know 02:29:07.660 --> 02:29:13.580 that well he's got a fan of Joe and what he does in August but right you know it really you know 02:29:13.820 --> 02:29:18.620 that is half of the survival rate that we successfully there is the ability of the administration 02:29:18.620 --> 02:29:23.980 and it's all in behind it I'm sure you go through that same process yeah I mean you you're right 02:29:23.980 --> 02:29:29.820 we want to have a good fit yeah because those are products you can reach the first course 02:29:29.820 --> 02:29:35.980 to reach out to this yeah families and pump them off let's say you're gonna be you're going to be 02:29:35.980 --> 02:29:43.500 successful in this program cool thank you again any other board members care so it really is 02:29:43.500 --> 02:29:53.500 geared towards the gate correct um and when we have how many people that are at the 02:29:53.500 --> 02:29:59.340 don't pre it's also level already I mean I was just really turning into going to be 02:29:59.340 --> 02:30:07.660 working with that population this is to I mean we're in need that we have significant 02:30:07.660 --> 02:30:16.300 areas that can on a true level so yes absolutely big thing well I I um you know I think the 02:30:16.300 --> 02:30:21.420 referral project needs to be flushed out a little bit how much money do we have in total 02:30:21.420 --> 02:30:30.380 part eight because we have already had some other behaviors especially we have another type of 02:30:30.380 --> 02:30:39.500 one thing I guess I'm kind of worried about the budget but I spoke to um HR and our CLC 02:30:40.620 --> 02:30:49.980 staff they said the number three hundred thousand don't quote me on that just talk to them when 02:30:49.980 --> 02:30:59.260 we will name that and they assured me that based on the three staff numbers I wasted on here 02:30:59.260 --> 02:31:07.820 but that would be a comfortable area to be able to do it um what about staff training 02:31:09.340 --> 02:31:16.780 curriculum issues I mean um hi you know why I'm not sure that we want to put them in an 02:31:16.780 --> 02:31:22.300 environment where we're using the same curriculum that we use that is in the regular environment 02:31:22.300 --> 02:31:27.420 and you know we you know the teachers would need to be able to have some other types of things so 02:31:27.420 --> 02:31:33.100 I'm going about the budget um I will uh last time we had those conversations among my other 02:31:33.100 --> 02:31:41.580 concerns is a sort of safety plan um we need some kind of uh I mean we're taking if they're at a 02:31:41.580 --> 02:31:47.580 pre-explosion level or they had a behavior level where they've gone through the analysis process 02:31:47.580 --> 02:31:54.140 and nothing's working and the behavior is that severe then we're going to move to a separate 02:31:54.140 --> 02:32:01.980 class so now we have five six ten kids all with severe behavior issues all together in the same class 02:32:02.780 --> 02:32:10.540 so I think we need some sort of plans or how we deal with that um and make sure that there are 02:32:10.540 --> 02:32:18.940 safety issues that they require in place um so this is kind of an environment um I think there's 02:32:18.940 --> 02:32:24.220 attendance and there's engagement stuff kind of works only really because we are at that 02:32:24.220 --> 02:32:29.340 pre-explosions I mean the parents need no because we don't turn it to the schools right that's why 02:32:29.340 --> 02:32:37.180 it works for them actually let's talk about it in the middle school um because um you know if 02:32:37.180 --> 02:32:42.780 if we don't have I guess one of those things is we don't have that six all over I mean what's 02:32:42.860 --> 02:32:50.060 been most of they've done to transport their kids over there for this um and I also you know 02:32:50.060 --> 02:32:54.300 how do we deal with the reality of the fact that we're putting these kids on the half day of casual 02:32:54.300 --> 02:33:03.980 house especially the best led um you know it's what is the reality of that um that I said I don't 02:33:03.980 --> 02:33:12.540 know um they have like a budget and I have a whole bunch of um staff training um and I mean 02:33:12.540 --> 02:33:17.900 this is much better than um the little bit we have the first act which is much more blessed 02:33:17.900 --> 02:33:23.180 out I commend you for all the work that you've done so far who all have been involved in putting 02:33:23.180 --> 02:33:31.820 this together? A lot of people so I wanted to say that Mr. Sanders has been involved in the last 02:33:31.900 --> 02:33:40.140 spring when this discussion started special education uh obviously and you know have contributed 02:33:40.140 --> 02:33:49.020 with the special entities of it of course back in the morning um we've consulted with um you know 02:33:49.020 --> 02:33:55.180 Joel at the middle school and you can see out of this train of the late streets we've spoken 02:33:55.740 --> 02:34:03.500 with other uh administrators at the elementary level here and have this on their radar and get 02:34:03.500 --> 02:34:11.740 prepared um you know what they think how does it work best with little kids versus middle school 02:34:11.740 --> 02:34:18.700 kids um you're probably forgetting so today are they you know the process is is completely 02:34:18.700 --> 02:34:25.020 enough they you know um and we've had some discussions about those to analyze this process 02:34:25.020 --> 02:34:33.340 and um being done as good as we wanted to be um I think we need to have clear criteria for these 02:34:33.340 --> 02:34:41.820 these communities and groups of you know what it will take to get a child into this program so that 02:34:42.460 --> 02:34:47.900 um you know we're not lining up with kids from one school a lot of kids from one school and that 02:34:47.900 --> 02:34:54.060 I mean from another school um because they think out even if they show that it's very clear um you 02:34:54.060 --> 02:34:59.820 know what it takes to be to get in there that's why I'm wondering if maybe we ought to just 02:34:59.820 --> 02:35:07.900 stick with the propulsion process again it provides the stick um uh yeah 02:35:10.620 --> 02:35:17.260 I think I think those are some of my biggest concerns um you know moving forward I think 02:35:17.260 --> 02:35:23.740 there needs to be a project timeline and a responsibility to career that's what um we need a communication 02:35:23.740 --> 02:35:31.420 plan or how we communicate it out with staff how we communicate it with parents um thank you 02:35:31.420 --> 02:35:38.860 for putting in um objectives and goals I think I think they're looking for noise and I do them 02:35:38.860 --> 02:35:47.180 now so thank you for that um so yeah it's only quite a bit of blushing out but yeah we're we're 02:35:47.180 --> 02:35:52.460 way better than we were before you know we're at the starting point here and there's a lot of 02:35:52.460 --> 02:35:57.420 work that needs to be done and we have to find the right people yeah because they might have a big 02:35:57.420 --> 02:36:02.220 concern of staffing it and we know these you know we we can't get special in teachers and 02:36:02.220 --> 02:36:09.500 special affairs and we're looking for one of each of this program I'm also wondering how um if we 02:36:09.500 --> 02:36:17.020 get the behavior folks that we are tired um I would think those people would need to be 02:36:17.020 --> 02:36:31.020 told into the problem as well um in terms of helping with the behavior plans and all kinds of things 02:36:31.900 --> 02:36:37.900 thanks uh well yeah thanks for this rig neural look forward to the senior school board um 02:36:37.900 --> 02:36:45.580 just to get out today um I have a one um so the big picture I just want to make sure I'm on the 02:36:45.580 --> 02:36:50.300 right page because you guys have been talked about this for a while so the goal here is we're 02:36:52.300 --> 02:36:58.620 at the early ages um keeping kids engaged keeping them in the district um yeah improving their 02:36:58.620 --> 02:37:05.500 behaviors with intensive action privacy also improving the classroom that they're leaving and 02:37:05.500 --> 02:37:10.300 that we're taking that disruptive force out of there which we've heard from the community and 02:37:10.300 --> 02:37:14.620 from you all the professionals so during that time where we're getting there but we're not 02:37:14.620 --> 02:37:19.020 giving up on the kid we're we're trying to get them back in and hopefully they have you know 02:37:19.020 --> 02:37:24.700 end up walking the stage um as a purple light of you know a decade down the road so I like all 02:37:24.780 --> 02:37:30.700 that I like that the board has been talking about this and administration um so all this looks 02:37:30.700 --> 02:37:35.820 really good um look as Carol said we'll see more details as they come together hopefully we give 02:37:35.820 --> 02:37:42.140 a you guys give a recommendation we endorse at the full board level um so all that's just a comment 02:37:42.140 --> 02:37:47.260 so thank you for all that I had the same technical question for maybe when it comes to the full 02:37:47.260 --> 02:37:52.460 board on this half day thing I just want to make sure one of the ways you fund this is that these 02:37:52.460 --> 02:37:56.780 kids are in the district and where they're aided um as the full-time students 02:37:57.340 --> 02:38:04.060 would they be only aided as a half-time student during the time or is it is it um kind of fuzzy 02:38:04.060 --> 02:38:10.940 in their regard so that's uh a concern of a lot of us on the board so is that something you can 02:38:10.940 --> 02:38:16.140 speak to tonight especially like I know with our special ed students too might be like it's 02:38:16.140 --> 02:38:21.900 important how many hours they're getting so um if you if you guys could speak to that maybe 02:38:23.420 --> 02:38:27.500 I need to look into that too okay yeah that's a good question 02:38:29.180 --> 02:38:33.820 Matthew did you have like but their INP news would just rewrite the IEP for that or 02:38:33.820 --> 02:38:38.380 I mean if it's a special ed students an IEP team decision okay all right 02:38:39.580 --> 02:38:45.740 Kim yeah there was constant average legislation allows for school districts when they place them 02:38:45.740 --> 02:38:50.940 in the program such as this they have reduced dollars so you're covered by state statute 02:38:51.660 --> 02:38:52.380 94 02:38:53.740 --> 02:39:01.580 285 and that would be as it connects with title because you said you'd fund it in title 1A or D 02:39:01.580 --> 02:39:06.540 you could use D2 so yeah you're covered with reduced dollars by the state law because they're 02:39:06.540 --> 02:39:16.860 identified as that because can I request that we actually get a written plan kind of like a 02:39:16.860 --> 02:39:20.860 you know like a title one plan or something but more than just a PowerPoint the actual 02:39:20.860 --> 02:39:27.660 written plan and things like that can be put in you know a little less summary but 02:39:29.180 --> 02:39:35.980 more of the details actually fleshed out in the written plan and then you know then when we 02:39:36.460 --> 02:39:42.060 have questions that people ask about things like that then then we have that kind of 02:39:42.060 --> 02:39:47.260 discussion at our fingertips because we we've got the plan absolutely 02:39:52.220 --> 02:39:59.340 yes I can say that at middle school level do we ask that same type of documentation going 02:40:00.300 --> 02:40:09.180 for this what Carol is saying like a written plan yeah I'm sorry how do we was dropped the 02:40:09.180 --> 02:40:14.380 board in a long form like that right but we're going back to the funding and things and these 02:40:14.380 --> 02:40:21.420 others that same one follow up type of thing we call that it's not fun it's a title okay 02:40:21.420 --> 02:40:30.380 okay if the funding source is title one you'll have to fill out a whole bunch of forms and 02:40:30.380 --> 02:40:37.420 details and all all of this just by funding will create a lot of all the information that you're 02:40:37.420 --> 02:40:42.700 asking for Carol a lot of that so for them to fund it you'll have to go through all those steps 02:40:42.700 --> 02:40:48.540 and so you'll get by funding it that way you'll get all your answers at least in my previous 02:40:49.420 --> 02:40:57.100 report I haven't seen that yet and again it's like okay please I'd like to know what whether 02:40:57.100 --> 02:41:05.020 we're spending out of title one a and do we really have the money that's in there for that um and you 02:41:05.020 --> 02:41:13.660 know it's like we have plans we have $1,000 out of $1,000 yeah 02:41:17.980 --> 02:41:25.180 anything else Michelle I don't see and this doesn't it doesn't um kind of discussion and 02:41:25.180 --> 02:41:34.620 information so we don't need to do something with this I I added action when I saw his recommendation 02:41:35.100 --> 02:41:41.020 oh yeah you need to ask Dr. Stingle if he needs action on it I mean 02:41:41.900 --> 02:41:49.340 if it's something you want to move forward this I mean this was not to be starting point sharing 02:41:49.340 --> 02:41:52.060 information on the plan over at 02:41:52.060 --> 02:41:56.060 the 02:42:10.060 --> 02:42:14.060 okay 02:42:14.060 --> 02:42:20.060 so then our next item is setting our next date it'll be Tuesday October 6th 02:42:20.460 --> 02:42:30.140 and we're going to say five o'clock to be a half hour after the box meeting and then it was 02:42:30.140 --> 02:42:38.140 four immediately following that meeting whatever is later whatever one is later and then make an 02:42:38.140 --> 02:42:42.380 motion for retirement you have it and I'm going to second it all in favor 02:42:42.380 --> 02:42:46.700 bye thank you very much everyone 02:43:08.140 --> 02:43:10.220 you 02:43:38.140 --> 02:43:40.220 you 02:44:08.140 --> 02:44:10.140 you