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committee only move to approve second so we have motion and seconded to approve

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the minutes any additions or corrections to the minutes as presented

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seeing none youth in governance all those in favor

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by signify by saying aye aye committee members all those in favor

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signify by saying aye aye opposed all right

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minutes are approved item number five is moving over to

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the transfer department uh letter a is human services department

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director otter will authorize an acceptance of a wi department of health

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services grant in the amount of a hundred and sixty six thousand seven

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hundred and twenty four dollars and transfer of funds within human

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services department twenty twenty six budget

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twenty twenty six resolution action requested for first and second reading

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at the august 25th 2026 county board meeting

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and director auto is out of town tonight but we have y'all in the

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joins here to bring us up to date on both of these

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resolutions so we'll start with a thank you all right hello

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so the first um grant that we have is the um

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substance abuse prevention treatment and recovery services black grant

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this is a grant that the receding county already receives um this was

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supplemental funds that came became available at the end of the month of

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july um totaling the hundred sixty six thousand seven hundred and twenty four

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dollars raseen county applied and was awarded this

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um these funds are intended to be used for the new

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residential facility um to properly equip them with the curriculum

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equipment and supplies to get um the program up and operational

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um we're happy to hear that um these funds have been offered to us and are

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hoping that we are able to help um support the services there and um

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cover the cost for um beginning operations at the residential

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does the committee have any questions for y'all or not unless

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supervisor milan thank you mr chairman i assume there's a state deadline and

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that's why you're asking for first and second reading yes

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and i should add that in my apologies um these funds need to be spent by

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september 30th so we are quite on a time crunch here

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um the supplemental funds end then and then we just continue with our normal

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amount of funds that are already allocated for substance abuse treatment

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and prevention within the county um so we are hoping that all of our

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expenses can be covered to get the residential up and running

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thank you it's chairman i would move to send this to the county board for

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first and second reading thank you so we have a motion

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second to send this to county board for person second reading this evening is

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there any other discussion on this super pleasure thank you mr chairman um i

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want to thank um the grant writers that obtained

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this supplemental grant and reading through the details

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what struck me is it states the project will eliminate a

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long-standing gap in the county's continuum of care

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improve access to residential treatment reduce barriers to recovery and provide

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individuals with the tools environment and support

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necessary to achieve lasting recovery i love that

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and this is great that we can use the money in this fashion

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thank you yelena and your team thank you and i also want to just kind of add

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too with the way that this is written yelena i've had some conversation too

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it's very very broad on what we can use the money for and how we can spend it

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so it's one of those things where it's it gives us a lot of flexibility

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with everything from something as is bedding and pillows to hygiene products

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to curriculum and and you know workbooks and stuff like that so

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thank you any further discussion on the motion

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seeing none youth in governance all those in favor signify by saying aye

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aye all right committee all those in favor signify by saying aye

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aye opposed all right motion carried thank you

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so while you're up there yet we'll move on to the letter b

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human services department director otter the authorized an acceptance of a

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wi department health services grant in the amount of

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two hundred thousand nine hundred and seventy six dollars

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and the transfer of funds within the human services 2026 budget

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2026 resolution action requested for first and second reading for the

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august 25th county board meeting we only need to bring us up to date on

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this one please i sure will this grant is a grant

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opportunity for the community mental health services black grant this is a

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grant that we're seeing county already receives an additional supplemental

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fund became available same time frame as the last grant discussed at the end of

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july to be used for the months of august and

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september all funds need to be expended by the end of

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september 30th the total award is the two hundred thousand nine hundred and seventy

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six dollars we were able to apply for this loan what we

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intend to utilize loans excuse me this grant as you can see it's late in the

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evening so this grant's intentions are to

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continue to expand the programs and initiatives

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surrounding housing focused behavioral health services for individuals living

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with serious and mental serious mental illness

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anybody dealing with serious and persistent mental health issues obviously

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already has a barrier against them when their basic needs aren't being met such

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as being homeless this creates another divide in them

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trying to find some stabilization with that being said

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we have proposed that we will use existing

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initiatives such as our sale crisis hostel

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and ensuring that any individual that comes to sale that is looking for

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connection to housing supports or promoting

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long-term stability and recovery we will link them with a non-profit

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provider that deals with housing navigation and stabilization services

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to help find some housing services that are available to them this fund

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cannot be utilized for paying payments mortgage payment

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landlord payments this is strictly for housing

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navigation supports coordination with landlords

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these will have to be these dollars will have to be utilized to work with

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non-profit providers within Racine County loving kindness is one

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provider here in Racine County that is a non-profit

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that often struggles with funding we have had conversations with them we also

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intend to have some conversations with halo to ensure that we are

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trying to capture anybody that is dealing with some

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housing homelessness issues or at risk of becoming homeless

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to make sure that we could try to sustain them with long-term

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stabilization and that arena of getting their basic needs met

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since the grant is two hundred thousand nine hundred seventy six dollars we have

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proposed that a hundred a thousand of this goes

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to the non-profits and we will obviously keep hold of

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all the grant reporting all the requirements of the grant

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the other hundred thousand nine hundred seventy six dollars will go for

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advertising this is a big ordeal that um behavioral health often struggles

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with is to get the word out of the resources that are

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available within Racine County crisis such as the crisis hotline

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our crew initiative making sure that people are aware of wellness connect

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and where to turn for mental health services within the county

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so we're looking for a motion to accept the grant

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Mr. Chairman I would move to send this to the county board for first and second

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reading tonight second Mr. Chairman so we have a motion and

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seconded to accept this grant move it forward to

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county board for first and second reading any further discussion

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any questions

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all right I've seen none we'll call the question youth and governance all those

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in favor signify by saying aye

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aye committee all those in favor signify by saying aye

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aye opposed all right thank you most carry thank you

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let's send us the county board for first and second reading this evening

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next up item number six is the staff report there's no action items listed

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under staff report our next finance and human resources

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committee meeting will be on september second at five o'clock

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if there's any other questions or anything that's for the betterment of

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this committee if not looking for a motion to

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adjourn so I'll move all right we are adjourned thank you

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and they were having a little technical difficulty with the video but we do have the audio

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so I'm going to be calling the notice of the meeting of tonight for the

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executive committee first thing on the agenda is approval of the previous minutes

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second

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motion has been dained seconded

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all in favor say aye

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motion is carried

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item number two

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closed session it's approximately 20 minutes it's anticipated that the executive

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committee will meet in a closed session pursuant to section 19.85

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parents one parent Z of the Wisconsin statutes to deliberate and negotiate the sale of public land and investment of public funds for development at

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209 north main street in the city of Burlington where competitive or bargaining reasons require a closed session. I would so move.

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Roll call vote.

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Supervisor Meyer.

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Supervisor Miller.

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We are in closed session.

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We're going to go in the back.

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Good evening.

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01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:13,400
My name is Tom Kramer and I'm going to be calling the county board meeting for August 25th, 2026th order.

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order could click, call the role, supervisors, Kelly,

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Horrith and Pritzker are excused supervisors Coleman and

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Trattier are attending virtually and everyone else is in the

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chambers.

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Okay, why don't we stand for opening prayer.

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A moment of silence.

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Thank you.

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And now the pledge I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the Republic for which it

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stands, one nation under God, individual with liberty

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and justice for all.

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So item, item number four is public comments.

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Pursuant to section two to 71 of the Racine County Code of

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Ordinance, each speaker shall be allotted a maximum of three

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minutes.

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Vice chairman Meyer here will be the timekeeper.

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He'll give you a 15 second lead up to the end.

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First to speak tonight is Jean Jacobson.

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Jean, why don't you come up and give us your address?

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Somebody broke the air.

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Hey, Jean.

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Good evening.

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I'm Jean Jacobson.

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I'm the chairman of the town of Norway.

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Nor that is.

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01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:07,960
It's at the beginning of Racine County.

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And I'm here tonight in support of Ordinance 2026-4-1 and

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2026-4-2 and I want to thank the Racine County Planning and

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Development Committee, Economic Development Committee for their

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support, our town board and our planning committee appeared

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before them a couple of weeks ago.

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And I am here tonight on behalf of the Norway Town Board,

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01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:43,880
the town of Norway Planning Committee and the audiences

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01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:48,880
that sat before us in total support of the rezoning

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request that has came before us.

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This evening we have with us the Jasper sins, the Gundersons,

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the Johnsons, the Jacobsons, all our regions that came along

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01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:04,680
this evening to support this resolution.

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01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,840
This rezoning in this ordinance is for our business

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located in an agricultural area that is extremely important to

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serve those people in agriculture and people in

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municipalities.

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This business also serves Racine County snowplows and

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machinery and it does a fine service to the area.

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01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:33,560
I want to thank those supervisors who took time out of

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their day to come out to the town of Norway.

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They found us and to take a look at the property and to

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realize how well it fits into the area.

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In fact, right next door, there's a sod farm that has maybe 16

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semis a day.

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This business is very quiet.

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01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,880
This business has been there for over 15 years and has served

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01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:57,720
our community extremely well.

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01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,800
I learned as the public official many years ago that

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sometimes decisions come before you that are very difficult.

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But I knew that I could always sleep at night if I made a

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common sense decision.

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Sometimes you have to make a little change in your thought

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to make it happen.

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So I appreciate your support and I appreciate all that you've

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done to make this happen and I look forward to your positive

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01:24:23,600 --> 01:24:24,520
vote. Thank you.

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01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,520
And now we have Jeff Ehrhard.

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01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,520
And just step up and give us your address, Jeff.

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Jeff Ehrhard, 225 South Griton Road, Union Grove, Wisconsin.

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01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,520
I am also here tonight.

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01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:45,520
I'll echo what Jean said.

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01:24:46,520 --> 01:24:47,520
So I won't repeat what that said.

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01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:52,520
But we spoke at the last meeting to try to get a little bit of

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training to try to iterate the importance of the all-star

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business to our communities.

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But more so than that, I think it needs to be noted that all-star

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is actually a service company.

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01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:09,520
They're a service to all of us who are in business out there.

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01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:15,520
And they make anything we want, anything we need, and they

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literally will stock parts that we can't get anywhere else.

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And they just do a great job on that.

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01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,520
But more so than that, I think it's imperative that the county

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board understands the importance of a business like them or any

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01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,520
other business for Western Racine County.

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01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,520
The tax base is small out by us.

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01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:43,520
We need good businesses such as all-star.

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01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:47,520
And I hope that when you make your decision that you keep that

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01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,520
in mind because the tax base is small.

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01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,520
This is a company that pays business or pays taxes into the

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01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,520
town, the county and the state.

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01:25:57,520 --> 01:25:58,520
And they are well run.

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01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,520
There was absolutely zero opposition to them.

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01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,520
And I think it'd be a travesty that if we were to,

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01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,520
if you were to turn them down.

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And so I look forward as Jean said to a positive vote. Thank you.

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,520
And now we have Justin Earhart.

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01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:26,520
You give us your address, Justin too.

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01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:31,520
Good evening, Justin Earhart, 26997 Plank Road, Burlington,

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01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:36,520
Wisconsin. I'm also here on behalf of the all-star company.

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01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:41,520
I think it's very important to echo what my,

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01:26:41,520 --> 01:26:46,520
my dad Jeff just said about the hard set all-star stocks.

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01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,520
And their ability to do that and willingness to do that.

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01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,520
It allows us as farmers to keep equipment running.

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01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,520
We have a very short window to do our jobs.

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01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:03,520
And what they provide as a service to the farm community.

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01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:06,520
Allows us to do our job.

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01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:09,520
On a different note.

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01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:13,520
I think it's important to keep in mind the type of people

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01:27:14,520 --> 01:27:15,520
that you're working with here.

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01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,520
I'm obviously one of probably the youngest person in this room.

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01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:25,520
Jeff and John and all the other guys to all-star have taken the time

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to educate me and to work with us as farmers,

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01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,520
even when I come in there with a very oddball request.

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01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,520
They take the time to work with us.

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01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,520
They take the time to help me understand how to do it right.

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01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:40,520
And then sometimes how to make the equipment run.

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01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,520
If we can't get an exact part we need, they help us work through that.

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01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:53,520
I would hope that the business style and the personalities

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01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:58,520
and the positive community impact are reflected in your positive vote tonight.

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01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:00,520
Thank you.

520
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:04,520
Are there any other further comments?

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01:28:06,520 --> 01:28:07,520
Any other public comments?

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01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:12,520
Seeing none will move on.

523
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:18,520
So do we have a UW presentation?

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01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:19,520
I see.

525
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:21,520
Do you receive anything or?

526
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:23,520
Mr. Green is online.

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01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:24,520
Mr. Green is online.

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01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:25,520
There he is.

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01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:26,520
Thank you, Mr. Green.

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01:28:28,520 --> 01:28:29,520
Go ahead.

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01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:32,520
Here.

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01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:33,520
I think you're muted.

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01:28:34,520 --> 01:28:35,520
There we go.

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01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:36,520
Sorry.

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01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,520
I'm not terribly familiar with WebEx.

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01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:43,520
So I'm going to share my presentation real quick.

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01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:48,520
I was asked to give this presentation to a group of municipal officials.

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01:28:48,520 --> 01:28:51,520
I believe last month.

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01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:56,520
And then I was asked to give the presentation to the full county board.

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01:28:56,520 --> 01:29:01,520
So my name is Carl Green and I'm with the local government education program

541
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,520
with UW Extension.

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01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,520
We are part of the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

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01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:09,520
And we are really here to help.

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01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:14,520
Both elected officials and just the general public better understand.

545
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:19,520
A variety of issues in the state that the University of Wisconsin-Madison.

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01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:25,520
And so our job is to help local elected officials understand a variety of issues

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01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:27,520
regarding elected government.

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01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:31,520
And one of those being the Wisconsin property system.

549
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,520
So I'm going to go into this.

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01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:36,520
I know that I cannot see everybody there.

551
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:40,520
And I certainly don't mean to insult anybody if I explain to them.

552
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,520
I'm going to go into this.

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01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,520
I think sometimes understanding some of the basics of our property tax system

554
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,520
makes us better able to explain it to the general public as well.

555
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:56,520
And they really look to us to understand how the system works as well as

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01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:59,520
where our property tax property taxes go.

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01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,520
So we have a two-value system.

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01:30:02,520 --> 01:30:05,520
We have both the essential property taxes.

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01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,520
So we have a two-value system.

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01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:13,520
We have both the assessed value that your municipal assessor determines

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01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,520
or your municipal assessing department.

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01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:20,520
And then we have a what's called full or equalized value

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01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:25,520
that the Department of Revenue statistically determines from municipal

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01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:30,520
sales supply to them from your municipal assessing department

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01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:33,520
and other assessors around the state.

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01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:38,520
So not all taxing jurisdictions use the same value.

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01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:44,520
The county uses equalized value to divide its levy buy to get its mill rate.

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01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:51,520
The municipality uses the assessed value to divide its levy buy to get its mill rate.

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01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:55,520
And so sometimes when we compare mill rates between municipalities,

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01:30:55,520 --> 01:30:59,520
we're actually making a little bit of an error because we're using the each

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01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:03,520
municipality's assessed value rather than the equalized value,

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01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:10,520
which would cause the numbers to become more equal and equalized

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01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:14,520
according to the state of the Department of Revenue.

574
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:20,520
We also need to understand that not all properties are assessed at full value

575
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:25,520
in more rural areas where we have ag land that's assessed at what's called

576
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:31,520
use valuation based on the crop that's being grown and then depending on the forest

577
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:35,520
land and how it's being used and whether public access is offered or not,

578
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:42,520
there's a variety of managed forest land programs that that owners can receive.

579
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:47,520
In other words, just not every single type of property is assessed the same.

580
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,520
And so that can be confusing.

581
01:31:50,520 --> 01:31:54,520
And this confusion really starts to lead to mistrust.

582
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:58,520
And that mistrust gets echoed in a lot of different ways.

583
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:06,520
One of that is to the TIFF debate and whether TIFF is a way to really incentivize economic development.

584
01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:14,520
Again, better understanding of the property tax system helps people to better understand some of these more complicated subjects such as TIFF.

585
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:22,520
And as I mentioned, your understanding of the property tax system to be very helpful in reducing that misperception.

586
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:29,520
So it's such an important issue because we rarely pay property taxes, unlike sales tax,

587
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:41,520
where we're paying it with every purchase property taxes are billed on anywhere from one to four installments and you're paying them annually.

588
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:45,520
And so people really, it really, you know, emotionally affects people.

589
01:32:45,520 --> 01:32:52,520
It's a big, large sum of money, some of money that's being sent out in pretty big installments.

590
01:32:52,520 --> 01:32:57,520
Revaluations, which I'll talk about a little bit and the impacts that they can have,

591
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:02,520
it'll create a fluctuation in that property owner's valuation.

592
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:10,520
And the perception is, is that however much that fluctuation goes up, my taxes are going to similarly go up and that's just not always the case.

593
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:16,520
So to very quickly get us to understand how the system works.

594
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:22,520
When we budget, we have more expenditures and we have revenues.

595
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,520
We have a lot of revenues coming in as a municipality or as a county,

596
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:31,520
but we typically have more expenditures and revenues and we have to make that up.

597
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:35,520
We have to balance our budget every year. So we balance it with the levy.

598
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:43,520
The levy used to be our ability to balance our budget, but since the mid 2000s,

599
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:49,520
levies have been held to a certain amount that we can increase them by based on that new construction.

600
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:52,520
I'll talk about that in a minute.

601
01:33:52,520 --> 01:33:58,520
When we do a revaluation and we get more in the bottom of the equation.

602
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,520
We aren't getting more money.

603
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:07,520
We are getting, we are only getting more money by levying more dollars.

604
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:13,520
So by levying more dollars, we get more money, but unless we are not doing that,

605
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:21,520
we aren't getting more money. And just by changing people's valuation doesn't mean we have more money to spend.

606
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:30,520
And so people need to realize that the bigger that the bottom of the equation gets the mill rate actually will go down.

607
01:34:30,520 --> 01:34:42,520
And so while yes, as the housing market has really escalated in the past few years and values have really escalated as well.

608
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:50,520
Those appreciations in the market can sort of fluctuate out through a lower mill rate.

609
01:34:51,520 --> 01:35:01,520
So, unfortunately, when the property tax bill comes, what it is looking at and what it represents is the percent change from the year before.

610
01:35:01,520 --> 01:35:15,520
And so when a revaluation does occur and somebody that was under assessed is now being paid or excuse me is now over assessed adequately closer to what the average is,

611
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,520
it's going to show up significant change from the year before.

612
01:35:19,520 --> 01:35:25,520
That is not the amount that the municipality or the county or the school district is levying.

613
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:32,520
It's simply the difference between last year's tax bill for this property and this year's tax bill.

614
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:37,520
I don't believe that the general public gets that and I don't blame them.

615
01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:42,520
These tax bills have a lot of numbers on them and they can be very confusing.

616
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:52,520
And that percent tax change at first glance looks like that's how much of a difference it is that the city or the taxing jurisdiction is spending between years.

617
01:35:52,520 --> 01:35:58,520
What really causes property taxes to increase is increasing the tax levy.

618
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:15,520
If we don't change the municipal or any assessed values or when we have changes to individual assessed values, while the municipal assessed value has either reduced or stayed the same or increased at a lower rate than your individual increase.

619
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,520
So, this is getting at that reassessment.

620
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:35,520
Just real quick, this is an example tax bill that can be sent in the mail with the property taxes so that people at least have the ability to understand what they're looking at in the middle of the screen towards the top.

621
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:38,520
You see what is called the average assessment ratio.

622
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:40,520
That's a very important number.

623
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:49,520
This example gives us an illustration of what happens between years during a reassessment year.

624
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:57,520
And again, I sincerely apologize. I cannot see anybody. I don't know if anyone is falling asleep at this point.

625
01:36:57,520 --> 01:37:06,520
I'm sorry to continue to go on, but this is is really the nuts and bolts of how the property tax system works.

626
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:11,520
So this community, let's say, is a community of six people.

627
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:21,520
They are assessed at a very different amounts. And so their assessment ratios are anywhere from 77% to 95%.

628
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:28,520
And that's in comparison to the full value, which is what should be the market value of the property.

629
01:37:28,520 --> 01:37:33,520
The assessor, however, has deemed them at very different amounts.

630
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:40,520
And so on average, their average assessment ratio was 84.6%.

631
01:37:40,520 --> 01:37:50,520
But you can see that's an average and they range anywhere from March, who's at 77% to Mike, who is at 95%.

632
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:57,520
So they levy $12,500 for the year. They spread that over that $1.1 million.

633
01:37:57,520 --> 01:38:05,520
And they have $10.96 as a mill rate that they need to spread over everyone's value.

634
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:17,520
So in this beige in the bottom of the left side of the graphic, you can see how much each individual property pays for property taxes in that community.

635
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:25,520
So the next year, which is represented by this black line, they have a revaluation.

636
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:33,520
And so new values are determined. And so the red represents what those new values are for each property tax owner.

637
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,520
Again, there's only six property owners in this community.

638
01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:43,520
Each one goes up a certain amount in comparison to the market value. The market value hasn't changed at all.

639
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:50,520
But the valuations, when comparison to each other have changed, the assessor went through and reassessed.

640
01:38:50,520 --> 01:39:05,520
The average assessment ratio is now 97%, which is this, you're supposed to be within that 90% range once in a four year period. So, department of revenue doesn't require you to do a reassessment.

641
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:14,520
Okay, in the blue, the net new construction allows this community to increase their levy by 6.4%. They do that.

642
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:27,520
They get the total assess value of 1.3 million that they divide that new levy by and their tax rate becomes $10.07 per thousand.

643
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:37,520
Put that in the tan books, and you can see how it plays out. They are able to raise the full amount that they need to raise.

644
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:47,520
And look at the difference that different taxpayers have paid. The person that was under assessed the year before saw $243 increase in their property taxes.

645
01:39:47,520 --> 01:40:00,520
But Mike, the gentleman that was over assessed in relation to everyone else, even though his property tax assessment did go up between the year before and the new year.

646
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:16,520
His property taxes went down and that's because everybody else is accommodated for that raise because he was paying such a higher average rate, such a higher assessment in comparison to his, his neighbors.

647
01:40:16,520 --> 01:40:36,520
So the takeaway here is that having your average assessment ratio, which is again on your property tax bill, as close to 100% as you can, creates a lot more equity between the property taxpayers so that they're paying a reasonable amount in relation to each other.

648
01:40:36,520 --> 01:40:50,520
That gets communicated, not just for the municipality, but for the county. And so in this example, where I take it out a step further and say what would happen in 2025.

649
01:40:50,520 --> 01:41:03,520
The county had a three and a half dollar per thousand mill rate. And this would be how much the each property would end up paying.

650
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:08,520
And then the county changes their mill rate they actually drop their mill rate.

651
01:41:08,520 --> 01:41:24,520
So that's where the tax less. And yet, many of these properties see this 11% change, which is what I was getting at the beginning on your property tax bill when it starts to show that change of 11% from the year before.

652
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:39,520
The interplay between how everybody is being assessed if there's been a revaluation year, it's not necessarily that the municipality or county has increased their levy by that significant of an amount.

653
01:41:39,520 --> 01:41:51,520
Here's just another example of a good way to communicate that when a resident is paying the property tax bill they're paying not just to the municipality that's collecting it but they're paying for the technical college.

654
01:41:51,520 --> 01:42:08,520
They're paying for the municipal services, the county services, and the school district services so being able to represent that in a manner like this helps to communicate that so people can understand that it's not just their dollar is going to the municipality that's

655
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:26,520
getting it but these other taxing jurisdictions as well. This real quickly, and I'll then very quickly go into an open questions, but this is the net new construction, which is really the lifeblood for municipalities and how they can raise their levy.

656
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:39,520
This is the net new construction for every municipality in Racine County study that I had put together a while back but I was trying to look at how is net new construction keeping up with inflation.

657
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:54,520
Unfortunately except for Mount Pleasant and the village of Sturavant, Sturavant, every municipality is well below the inflation rate meaning their costs have gone up more than their ability to raise their levy to catch up to that.

658
01:42:55,520 --> 01:43:05,520
Departments are competing with each other for that precious levy dollar because they're not able to raise enough to keep up with inflation.

659
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:12,520
So I guess who has questions anybody have any questions I would be happy to take those.

660
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:23,520
Here's my contact information and again, thank you for your time and willingness to have me and give me the opportunity to come and speak.

661
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:28,520
Any questions for Carl.

662
01:43:28,520 --> 01:43:34,520
Seeing none I thought it was very interesting but then I'm a municipal treasure to so.

663
01:43:34,520 --> 01:43:36,520
You did a really good job.

664
01:43:36,520 --> 01:43:40,520
They did it here in the headlights.

665
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:45,520
Could you put your contact was yeah, if you could do that again.

666
01:43:45,520 --> 01:43:47,520
I put the contact.

667
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:51,520
Oh, could you put your contact information up again, Carl.

668
01:43:51,520 --> 01:44:01,520
Let me bring it up real quick.

669
01:44:01,520 --> 01:44:03,520
You see it.

670
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:17,520
Yes.

671
01:44:18,520 --> 01:44:23,520
Okay, thank you.

672
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:27,520
Thank you everybody.

673
01:44:27,520 --> 01:44:29,520
All right.

674
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:32,520
Item number six.

675
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:43,520
Reading of the minutes of the previous meeting, which is automatically waived unless requested by the majority of the members presence.

676
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:48,520
Item number seven resolutions and ordinance ordinances referred to committee.

677
01:44:48,520 --> 01:44:51,520
There are none.

678
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:56,520
Item number eight introduction of resolutions and ordinances for first reading and referral.

679
01:44:56,520 --> 01:44:59,520
We have resolution number 2026 dash 49.

680
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:04,520
My public works parks and facilities committee authorizing and improving a memorandum of understanding.

681
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:08,520
Between receiving county public works and water for youth football.

682
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:10,520
Please chairman.

683
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:21,520
Thank you, Mr. Chairman, your finance and human resources committee about earlier this evening and unanimously passed two resolutions 202650 and 202651.

684
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:30,520
These would be for some supplemental grants. We typically don't ask for first and second reading, but if there's no objection, I'd like to ask for first and second reading tonight.

685
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:36,520
Do the amount of money and the time that it needs to be spent.

686
01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,520
I see no objections.

687
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:41,520
See there.

688
01:45:41,520 --> 01:45:42,520
Okay.

689
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:45,520
Liz is passing out copies to everyone.

690
01:45:45,520 --> 01:46:01,520
The first one would be resolution number 2026 dash 50 by the finance and human resources committee authorizing the acceptance of a Wisconsin department of health services grant and the amount of 166,724 and transfer funds within the human services department.

691
01:46:02,520 --> 01:46:03,520
26 budget.

692
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:19,520
And then resolution number 2026 dash 51 by the finance and human resources committee authorizing the acceptance of a Wisconsin department of health services grant the amount of 200,976 dollars and transfer funds within the human service department 2026 budget.

693
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:33,520
All right.

694
01:46:33,520 --> 01:46:37,520
Item number nine, communications and claims.

695
01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:48,520
Number one, a resolution requesting the Wisconsin counties association provide equal and equitable, equitable voting to all counties on WCA steering committees from Polk County.

696
01:46:48,520 --> 01:46:52,520
Item number one is referred to the end file, then the county clerk's office.

697
01:46:53,520 --> 01:47:01,520
Number two resolutions regarding sustainable state funding for local public health departments from tremolo green lacrosse and Sawyer counties.

698
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:16,520
And number three resolution requesting the state to provide GPR funding to cover the full non federal share of M a CSP and crisis services from Sawyer County items number two and three refer to the health and human development committee.

699
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:31,520
The public knows this of an air pollution control permit application review for EPSI Frank's bill located at 4220 Courtney Road, Frank's bill we're seeing county Wisconsin FID 252 179180 from the Wisconsin department of natural resources.

700
01:47:31,520 --> 01:47:35,520
Item number four is refer to the economic development and land use planning committee.

701
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:42,520
Number five we're seeing county facilities management notable project status report for the month of July, 2026.

702
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,520
Item number five is referred to the public works parks and facilities committee.

703
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:58,520
And then items number six is a foreclosure of mortgage item number seven as a claim and items number eight through 24 are notifications for the United States bankruptcy court.

704
01:47:58,520 --> 01:48:05,520
Items number six through 24 refer to finance and human resources committee and corporation council.

705
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:11,520
Supervisor Caprillion.

706
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:16,520
Supervisor wish I thank you chair copies of four and seven please.

707
01:48:16,520 --> 01:48:18,520
Supervisor McRennell.

708
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:21,520
Thank you Mr Chairman also copies of four and seven.

709
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,520
Supervisor Osterman.

710
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,520
Four please thank you.

711
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:27,520
Supervisor Hoffman.

712
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:31,520
Thank you chairman I'd like copies of four and seven please.

713
01:48:32,520 --> 01:48:33,520
Supervisor Lorentz.

714
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,520
Thank you Mr Chairman copies of number four please.

715
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:40,520
Vice Chairman.

716
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,520
Thank you Mr Chairman.

717
01:48:42,520 --> 01:48:44,520
Two and seven please.

718
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:46,520
And I would like one and.

719
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:48,520
Seven please.

720
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:51,520
Any further requests for copies.

721
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,520
Seeing none.

722
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,520
Proceed.

723
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:58,520
Communications from the county executive.

724
01:48:59,520 --> 01:49:02,520
There are none in tonight's agenda.

725
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:07,520
Item number 11 standing committee reports containing recommendations and items preferred.

726
01:49:07,520 --> 01:49:09,520
There are no reports.

727
01:49:09,520 --> 01:49:11,520
And number 12.

728
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:14,520
Second reading of resolutions and ordinances.

729
01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:27,520
Under majority vote we have ordinance number 2026 dash 41 by economic development and mind use planning committee to rezone from a to general farming and residential district to to be three commercial service district section 22 town for north.

730
01:49:27,520 --> 01:49:29,520
Range 20 east town of Norway owners.

731
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,520
Ingersoll development LLC.

732
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:42,520
Ordinance number 2026 dash 42 by economic development and land use planning committee to amend the town of Norway land use map of the multi jurisdictional comprehensive plan for Racine County 2035.

733
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:49,520
As it pertains to personal ID number 010042 022 004030.

734
01:49:50,520 --> 01:50:13,520
Resolution number 2026 dash 48 by financing human resources committee authorizing and adopting a financial policy manual motions been made in a second did Mr Chairman like separate consideration of 41 and 42 separate consideration as a group as a group.

735
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:17,520
Okay, I guess.

736
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:24,520
Supervisor asked, why don't you lead us into ordinance 2026 41 42. Thank you, Mr Chairman.

737
01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:26,520
These need to be considered separately.

738
01:50:26,520 --> 01:50:27,520
These two.

739
01:50:27,520 --> 01:50:30,520
Okay, you're asking for separate consideration on both.

740
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:31,520
Right.

741
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:32,520
Okay.

742
01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:38,520
And with your indulgence, we need to do 42 first. I think these were numbered out of order.

743
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:40,520
42 is the.

744
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:41,520
That's okay.

745
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:42,520
We'll do that first.

746
01:50:42,520 --> 01:50:43,520
Okay.

747
01:50:44,520 --> 01:50:53,520
So 42 is what we're talking about. This is the land use plan amendment for the town of Norway.

748
01:50:53,520 --> 01:51:03,520
The change in the ordinance from what you had in your packet versus what is on your desk now is the third page line seven.

749
01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:12,520
There was a, there was a typo that proposed amendment to the Burlington plan and it was supposed to read town of Norway.

750
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:20,520
That changes have been made. It does not require a separate S ordinance, just a correction. So.

751
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:25,520
And the other is 2026 41 as a rezone.

752
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:32,520
Normally these things, this land use plan with a rezone is a very routine type.

753
01:51:32,520 --> 01:51:35,520
If I could issue, should we take.

754
01:51:35,520 --> 01:51:40,520
2026 42 first or you want to explain 40 doing that.

755
01:51:40,520 --> 01:51:42,520
Yeah, 42. Okay.

756
01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:44,520
For 42. Right.

757
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:45,520
But.

758
01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:48,520
A, this land use.

759
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,520
Amendment is not routine.

760
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:56,520
Neither is the, the ordinance, the zoning ordinance.

761
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:59,520
The.

762
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:08,520
Just right up front, we need to get out of the way that the, the business that was, has been operating there has been operating for 13 years and an on conforming use.

763
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,520
I believe that.

764
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:15,520
That is due to the fact that that Mr. Ingersoll was misinformed.

765
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:23,520
Either through research or information that he had as to the requirement to have an operating permit.

766
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:27,520
It very well could have qualified under our H barb ordinance.

767
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:31,520
But he was operating under the.

768
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,520
Use that you could.

769
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:42,520
You could operate with a small business within the confines of an A to within a building with limited number of employees.

770
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:45,520
During the meeting, I was only on.

771
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:50,520
The phone. I was not in person. I did not have the opportunity to me, Mr. Ingersoll.

772
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:55,520
I'd like to thank supervisor wish off for facilitating that introduction.

773
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:59,520
I went out and spent two hours talking to Mr. Ingersoll.

774
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:07,520
I made a friend and we, we exchanged our, our dilemmas.

775
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:16,520
I am initially and still against the land use plan change for several reasons.

776
01:53:16,520 --> 01:53:23,520
The, the reduction in agriculture land philosophically. I always want to preserve ag land.

777
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:27,520
There was also nothing else around it permitted.

778
01:53:27,520 --> 01:53:32,520
And potential negative uses down the road and putting the county at risk for others.

779
01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:36,520
Saying, well, you had, you created spot zoning here.

780
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:42,520
In fact, the, the staff recommendation was to deny this.

781
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,520
That it was spot zoning.

782
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:51,520
There were no other uses around it and that the use was inconsistent with the.

783
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:56,520
The, the, the district in the land use plan.

784
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:06,520
Now, out of the other side of my mouth, I'm going to tell you the reasons why a land use amendment would be good.

785
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:11,520
First of all, as you've heard from the public, it's good for agriculture. It's good for the farmers.

786
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:21,520
There's overwhelming public support. There was not one person at the, at loop meeting or tonight that spoke against allowing this to happen.

787
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:25,520
That business paying sales tax state sales tax and county sales tax.

788
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:30,520
One of the most important things when you're trying to argue against spot zoning.

789
01:54:30,520 --> 01:54:36,520
Is to understand that a business serves the greater good. It serves the municipalities.

790
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:37,520
This business.

791
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:46,520
There is OEM equipment from every manufacturer, which is what the farmers need and especially our municipalities.

792
01:54:46,520 --> 01:54:51,520
They are committed to 24 hour availability.

793
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:57,520
On an emergency basis that can be very important during the snowstorm for our municipal governments.

794
01:54:57,520 --> 01:55:02,520
So there, there's, there's a very good, there's very compelling arguments to.

795
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:08,520
Change the land use plan, even though it may seem as though it's spot zoning, which I still.

796
01:55:08,520 --> 01:55:10,520
Think it's spot zoning.

797
01:55:10,520 --> 01:55:14,520
But I want to present a balanced.

798
01:55:14,520 --> 01:55:18,520
Explanation here as to why this is not routine.

799
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,520
So.

800
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:26,520
There are, we have a potential substitute ordinance for the rezoning.

801
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:29,520
Should this land use amendment pass.

802
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:33,520
We spent an hour.

803
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:38,520
Mr. Ingersoll and myself with Michael Lanzorff and john circuits.

804
01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:40,520
Going through.

805
01:55:40,520 --> 01:55:43,520
Some of the issues that we have here and we think that.

806
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:50,520
With the following ordinance for rezoning, we have a good answer to many of these issues. So.

807
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:55,520
It came out of committee, this land use amendment came out of committee at six to one.

808
01:55:55,520 --> 01:56:02,520
Six members voted to allow it. I was the lone vote against it. Again, because.

809
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:10,520
I think it's important to preserve agriculture land. Now, admittedly, we're, we're talking about affecting less than 10 acres.

810
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:18,520
And I'm arguing against myself here, but I want to be able to present to you guys all the reasons for and against this.

811
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:26,520
So my vote is against the land use plan amendment, but please make your own decision as you will.

812
01:56:26,520 --> 01:56:33,520
On the, you know, the importance of moving this, this business forward. It does.

813
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:43,520
But the land use plan amendment does benefit the county and municipalities, it benefits local farmers. And again, there is, there's overwhelming public support without any dissent.

814
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:47,520
So there's much more to talk about.

815
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:54,520
On the further ordinance, but that is pretty much the land use plan amendment to.

816
01:56:54,520 --> 01:57:00,520
Allow a zoning change so that their business can expand.

817
01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:08,520
Any other further comments supervisor Miller. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

818
01:57:08,520 --> 01:57:16,520
So I wanted to, we're consideration to, to speak as I'm going to speak, but I did not know the back corner.

819
01:57:16,520 --> 01:57:19,520
That supervisor, I'm just raised, but.

820
01:57:19,520 --> 01:57:23,520
I will proceed with my previous thoughts on that was.

821
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:45,520
It is not often that we get any public input on a land use plan or a rezone. So I'm very grateful that both the town of Norway and citizens were here to speak to those concerns and very much over my history on the board.

822
01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:51,520
Inclined to trust the local people and their decisions.

823
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,520
But I also wanted to say that.

824
01:57:54,520 --> 01:58:05,520
Not only is Jean Jacobson chair of the town of Norway, but she served on this county board for many years.

825
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:17,520
In fact, as the unofficial county board historian, I will note that my first vote on this board was to elect Jean Jacobson county board chair.

826
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,520
After all these years.

827
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:28,520
I publicly reveal my private vote, but I also wanted to note that.

828
01:58:29,520 --> 01:58:38,520
Jean Jacobson was the first female county executive, not only a very seen county, but I'm in the state of Wisconsin. So.

829
01:58:38,520 --> 01:58:55,520
I just think it's important for us, especially those who might be listening online to, to note that we have distinguished citizens with a lot of service here this evening.

830
01:58:56,520 --> 01:59:00,520
Thank you.

831
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,520
Supervisor Miller, supervisor, try to your head to hand up.

832
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:08,520
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman for allowing me to speak.

833
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:21,520
And then thank you, Mr. Chairman for giving me the tour of the town of Norway and the property in question and the surrounding community that supports it.

834
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:24,520
It was very educational.

835
01:59:24,520 --> 01:59:41,520
I want to let everyone know that I have been a banker for the last 35 years and I understand development and business for all communities, especially the community of Racine County.

836
01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:47,520
But I am not in support of amending the town of Norway land use map.

837
01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:56,520
Of the multi jurisdictional comprehensive plan for Racine County in 2020, 2035.

838
01:59:56,520 --> 02:00:05,520
Why that recommendation from our development service division was to not adopt this change.

839
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:14,520
The change may could be considered spot zoning, according to our development service department.

840
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:24,520
This change of approved may or could set a precedent for future request of landowners in the county.

841
02:00:24,520 --> 02:00:34,520
This may and could.

842
02:00:34,520 --> 02:01:03,520
Be a potential liability for the county with this, Mr. Chairman, I see the floor and I am not in support of this ordinance.

843
02:01:04,520 --> 02:01:09,520
Thank you, supervisor. Are there any other comments.

844
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:18,520
Supervisor wish I thank you, chair. I'm in support of this. I spoke to Mr. Ingersoll for probably close to 45 minutes.

845
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:27,520
Late last week, it was a great conversation. It's clearly it. They have done a lot for down at Norway. They've done a lot for Racine County.

846
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:38,520
And they're going to continue to do that as they move forward. I'm not in favor of doing anything that would hinder their ability to be a successful business and a good patron for their community.

847
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:44,520
So I'm in favor of supporting this moving forward.

848
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:48,520
Supervisor McRennell. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

849
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:55,520
I am in support of this. It's not too often. I think it's been said that.

850
02:01:55,520 --> 02:02:09,520
There are a lot of people that will show up at an economic development land use meeting and I am out from out that in that area and have heard nothing but great things about the business owner.

851
02:02:09,520 --> 02:02:15,520
And to have several neighbors come in and support this just.

852
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:19,520
Echoes what a great business and and what.

853
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:25,520
This gentleman does not only for the businesses, but also for the community.

854
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:29,520
So I am in total support of this. Thank you.

855
02:02:29,520 --> 02:02:34,520
Supervisor Hopkins. Yeah, I just want to make sure I understand.

856
02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:40,520
What's an issue is it that allows this business to exist.

857
02:02:41,520 --> 02:02:46,520
And or allows it to expand if he just got to clarify.

858
02:02:46,520 --> 02:02:49,520
Both. Is there a day.

859
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:51,520
May I go ahead.

860
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:59,520
So what's before you right now is the land use plan change with that.

861
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:06,520
So Mr. Ingresall was found to be operating without a permit due to information that he had.

862
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:15,520
He thought he didn't have to have an operators permit, but he does. So he's in the process of fixing that with the developmental services.

863
02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:17,520
But he has two choices now.

864
02:03:17,520 --> 02:03:21,520
He has to find a new place, a new building.

865
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:28,520
Because where he's at right now operating when which I toured the place.

866
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:35,520
It's very clean. It's a well run operation. Everything's being done really, really right. And there are a lot of precautions being taken.

867
02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:39,520
So I appreciate the good business that that he's running.

868
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:45,520
And Mr. Ingresall, if I, if while I'm talking if I mischaracterize anything, please step up.

869
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:50,520
The, so he has to either move to a new building somewhere.

870
02:03:50,520 --> 02:04:03,520
Or he has to seek a land use plan change and follow that up with the zoning to get the right zoning. So his business is permitted.

871
02:04:03,520 --> 02:04:13,520
Right now he's running a technically an unpermitted business. And it's, it's not been objectionable to the neighborhood or anybody or anything.

872
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:21,520
So having gone through the exercise for a long period of time to find a new building.

873
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:36,520
And that, that he could use to serve his, his, his market, the way that he is now and the way that farmers and especially the municipalities are relying on right now.

874
02:04:36,520 --> 02:04:39,520
He could not find anywhere. There was nothing available.

875
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:52,520
So the, the next step then would be to build a new building. Additional on that property. So he has to have the land use plan with the rezoning.

876
02:04:52,520 --> 02:04:58,520
Okay, so I understood to extent that he needs this rezoning.

877
02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:08,520
So that that building can exist where it currently is. Right. So, so he can continue to operate where he's at and build the new building.

878
02:05:09,520 --> 02:05:16,520
And the rezoning is the next thing to talk about. If I could just a little bit on the history of the property.

879
02:05:16,520 --> 02:05:20,520
The property was and it was a, it was a farm.

880
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:29,520
And these warehouses were warehouses that they stored vegetables and machinery and what have you.

881
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:40,520
Mr. Ingersoll came in, bought a parcel that actually, well, multiple parcels. Actually, this is just the one.

882
02:05:40,520 --> 02:05:48,520
And that had some migrant labor camps on from the 70s and early 80s and also had.

883
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:58,520
A worn down wore down buildings that have been used over quite a few years. He upgraded those, started a small business.

884
02:05:58,520 --> 02:06:02,520
And that brings us here today were the businesses.

885
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:12,520
Working with the community members, municipalities, agricultural community and special projects.

886
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:20,520
And he needs more room. So on an a two parcel.

887
02:06:20,520 --> 02:06:25,520
That you don't have that you can't expand your business building.

888
02:06:25,520 --> 02:06:30,520
So that's one of the reasons why we need to change the land use plan.

889
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:36,520
That's that we have on file here. So we can go to the next step and get the rezoning.

890
02:06:36,520 --> 02:06:43,520
So Mr. First of all, Mr. Ingersoll will be operating on the correct zoning.

891
02:06:43,520 --> 02:06:47,520
And also he can build an additional building.

892
02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:53,520
Now the building is his area there has got a couple three or four acres of gravel.

893
02:06:53,520 --> 02:06:57,520
Parking lot and parking lot. The rest is all.

894
02:06:57,520 --> 02:06:59,520
Farm land.

895
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:08,520
And the farmland has last time the town of Norway does sounding out there a soil sample out there. There was 16 feet of muck.

896
02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:12,520
So you have to be on the high ground to be able to build this building.

897
02:07:12,520 --> 02:07:22,520
So the impact on the farmland probably isn't going to be very much to losing itself.

898
02:07:22,520 --> 02:07:26,520
The current resolution or resolution is so that.

899
02:07:26,520 --> 02:07:33,520
That business can exist and expand and without it, he has to move.

900
02:07:33,520 --> 02:07:34,520
Yes.

901
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:43,520
If I may go ahead in regards to the spot zoning question.

902
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:49,520
This is from the Wisconsin Court of Appeals.

903
02:07:50,520 --> 02:07:54,520
Various cases, Cushman v. City of Racine.

904
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:56,520
Howard versus on Grove.

905
02:07:56,520 --> 02:07:58,520
Well, versus Alcorn.

906
02:07:58,520 --> 02:08:04,520
Spot zoning is not necessarily illegal, but must be judged on individual circumstances.

907
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:08,520
The courts look at the purpose for which that zoning was granted.

908
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:17,520
Should be for a public purpose and result in public benefit and not solely for the personal benefit of the property owner requesting the rezoning.

909
02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:23,520
As I stated, I'm in opposition because of the, the, the ag use value.

910
02:08:23,520 --> 02:08:31,520
And, but an argument on the other side is that this certainly could be looked at as a public benefit,

911
02:08:31,520 --> 02:08:45,520
especially when you're looking at 24 hour availability that the business commits to the only business that has all of the inventory and stock 24 hour availability for municipal services to use in the event of snow,

912
02:08:45,520 --> 02:08:51,520
and other emergencies, flood emergencies, what have you, they can get their equipment and prepared and back on the road right away.

913
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:54,520
And so that's, that's a consideration.

914
02:08:54,520 --> 02:09:01,520
Another, you know, according to a trial court, the business provided a public service to both the neighbors and to the entire town.

915
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:10,520
So I, as, even though I, I stand in opposition to it, I acknowledge there are very compelling arguments the other direction.

916
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:19,520
I was reading as well. And it seems to me, some of the stipulations about a public good and where who and what it benefits.

917
02:09:19,520 --> 02:09:24,520
It seems to satisfy those.

918
02:09:24,520 --> 02:09:28,520
Depulations, at least when I understand.

919
02:09:28,520 --> 02:09:31,520
Supervisor Rossi.

920
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:34,520
Thank you chairman.

921
02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:49,520
I would say typically that I would not support something like a spot zoning situation, which I do feel this has a little bit of, but I will say the amount of people have showed up and then having the town chair.

922
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:54,520
And then having to move over and find another facility.

923
02:09:54,520 --> 02:10:16,520
I don't have an issue with this one and on committee, I've made exceptions for certain issues that are in conflict with county ordinances and I do feel that this is very similar to some of the ones that we have made exceptions for so I'll be voting in favor of this one.

924
02:10:16,520 --> 02:10:18,520
Thank you.

925
02:10:18,520 --> 02:10:20,520
Any further.

926
02:10:20,520 --> 02:10:22,520
Supervisor variance.

927
02:10:22,520 --> 02:10:29,520
Thank you, Mr chair. I'd also like to go on record. This can be front in front of the economic development lane.

928
02:10:29,520 --> 02:10:41,520
You're explaining on July 20th at that time, there was, I don't remember this exact number, but there was at least five to maybe as many as seven neighboring properties that spoke in support of this.

929
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:47,520
So it's not only the support you're in tonight, but support at that time.

930
02:10:47,520 --> 02:10:54,520
This business is already has a history of is operating in good standing without any issues.

931
02:10:54,520 --> 02:11:04,520
And it provides a very needed service for a lot of the different businesses and people within the area, you know, not moving this forward.

932
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:19,520
Not only affects the business that we're talking about, but the people that support that business and need products in generally when they need those products, they need them in an emergency, you know, during planting harvesting season.

933
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:29,520
And snow snow situations. So I'm going to vote in support of this. And I would ask that we think in terms of those things to us as we move forward.

934
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:39,520
Supervisor Caprillion. Thank you so much. I don't want to repeat anything that's been said, but I do want to bring some attention to what supervisor.

935
02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:51,520
Trottier was talking about about it studying a precedence being that I am one that supports it, but I have to think about as I've said here for 15 years and I've been hearing things like that.

936
02:11:51,520 --> 02:12:07,520
And I've often said the same thing. And I wonder what would show up for this to be different, because I think we are all thoughtful people making a judgment call here. And so what another body that would come with another issue that might look similar.

937
02:12:08,520 --> 02:12:19,520
So I do think it's a fair concern that supervisor Trottier has, but I'm wondering if maybe in the motion, now I'm just kind of thinking out loud.

938
02:12:19,520 --> 02:12:30,520
Or if it be written as be in what we have before us that it doesn't say that it's just approved because it could be because we like the guy.

939
02:12:30,520 --> 02:12:46,520
But maybe that because the surrounding area is constrained from development is what I've heard. Chairman Kramer said, and because the farmers of those who testify established with established businesses need it as something.

940
02:12:47,520 --> 02:12:59,520
Supervisor Osterman had said was something that justifies spot zoning to go against it. So something more so in the motion that it could be.

941
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:06,520
I think we're going to address that in the next ordinance. Perfect.

942
02:13:06,520 --> 02:13:13,520
Is there any other further comments or questions? Okay. Supervisor wish.

943
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:25,520
Thank you. I think this is a perfect exam example of extenuating circumstances and benefit to the community more than is anything else.

944
02:13:25,520 --> 02:13:34,520
You know, mistakes were made. We're correcting mistake. And we're also supporting the community that he represents.

945
02:13:34,520 --> 02:13:42,520
So, I don't, you know, let's cut through the red tape. I mean, just, it's just something that makes common sense.

946
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:45,520
I mean, and I don't know anything about the business.

947
02:13:45,520 --> 02:13:48,520
But I think it deserves that. Thank you.

948
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:59,520
Thank you. Any further comments. Supervisor Miller asked for roll call vote. So if you could power us up there, we're going to roll a vote.

949
02:14:00,520 --> 02:14:09,520
And first you have to check in.

950
02:14:09,520 --> 02:14:32,520
Okay.

951
02:14:32,520 --> 02:14:36,520
Supervisor Coleman, how do you vote? Yes.

952
02:14:37,520 --> 02:14:43,520
Supervisor, try to hear how do you vote? No.

953
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:53,520
Motion carries. Give us a moment to record this.

954
02:14:53,520 --> 02:15:01,520
Thank you.

955
02:15:02,520 --> 02:15:08,520
All right. Supervisor, instrument ordinance number 202641.

956
02:15:08,520 --> 02:15:10,520
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

957
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:26,520
So now that we have a change in the land use plan, myself, I see no reason except for one to not support the rezoning request.

958
02:15:27,520 --> 02:15:35,520
One of the things that happened during all of this discovery was that, again, Mr. Ingersoll and I sat down.

959
02:15:35,520 --> 02:15:47,520
We kind of traded places of putting ourselves in each other's shoes and have a long discussion about what would you do if you had the issues that I had and vice versa.

960
02:15:48,520 --> 02:15:55,520
So we, we talked for a long time and that led to a meeting with county attorney, Landstorff and circuit.

961
02:15:55,520 --> 02:16:07,520
So some of those concerns were related to protecting the county from future potential litigation or even questioning.

962
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:14,520
You know, when somebody else comes along now and they want to do something that we find very egregious.

963
02:16:14,520 --> 02:16:19,520
How do we say no, you know, so a lot of things need to be on the record.

964
02:16:19,520 --> 02:16:23,520
I'm very thankful that we had so many people at the ed loop meeting.

965
02:16:23,520 --> 02:16:30,520
And tonight speaking in favor of this, that helps bolster the case of it being good for the community.

966
02:16:30,520 --> 02:16:35,520
We need to provide the opportunity for all start to grow their business.

967
02:16:35,520 --> 02:16:40,520
We need to protect the intent of future use.

968
02:16:40,520 --> 02:16:43,520
And so.

969
02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:49,520
When one of the things that that Mr. Ingersoll was very worried about was down the road.

970
02:16:49,520 --> 02:16:51,520
If he sold his business.

971
02:16:51,520 --> 02:17:02,520
If somebody would change it dramatically and it would not meet the, the intent and the character of what we're trying to do here with this land use plan amendment.

972
02:17:03,520 --> 02:17:11,520
So through discussions with county attorney, they drafted at S ordinance that you have in front of you now.

973
02:17:11,520 --> 02:17:20,520
And there is a single paragraph, the whereas paragraph, which talks about what would happen in the future.

974
02:17:20,520 --> 02:17:31,520
Should this property be reverted or something would change in the, in the, the material use of it, not generally,

975
02:17:31,520 --> 02:17:36,520
in the material use of the property and how that business would operate.

976
02:17:36,520 --> 02:17:55,520
Basically trying to keep it from becoming a gas station or a high volume, you know, traffic area or something like that, all things that are allowable in B three. So this is the language that came from the county attorney.

977
02:17:55,520 --> 02:18:00,520
And I am very comfortable with the fact that, that it protects the county.

978
02:18:00,520 --> 02:18:15,520
And it also stays true to the intent of what Mr. Ingersoll was trying to, to do on his property, expand his business, keep it running as is and transfer that down the road to a similar like or exactly like type owner.

979
02:18:15,520 --> 02:18:20,520
So that's what the, the S resolution is.

980
02:18:20,520 --> 02:18:31,520
Um, I would move to approve the 202641 S ordinance in place of 2026 dash 41.

981
02:18:31,520 --> 02:18:35,520
So we have, we have a motion.

982
02:18:35,520 --> 02:18:40,520
It's been made in a second to amend the 202641.

983
02:18:40,520 --> 02:18:45,520
To 202641 S.

984
02:18:45,520 --> 02:18:53,520
Now, Mr. Chairman, if I may, just real quickly, prior to this coming here, this was all vetted with Mr. Ingersoll.

985
02:18:53,520 --> 02:19:09,520
And he is fine with the way that it's worded has no, no issues at all and feels very comfortable with the fact that this will help secure his, secure his, his property for the purposes that he's trying to make happen.

986
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:19,520
It also puts this whole thing, it puts the reasoning on record also, you know, this fixes a lot of issues this S ordinance. So.

987
02:19:19,520 --> 02:19:20,520
Mr. Chairman.

988
02:19:21,520 --> 02:19:24,520
Supervisor Miller. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

989
02:19:24,520 --> 02:19:29,520
I think I would like to know and I would assume the rest of the board might.

990
02:19:29,520 --> 02:19:45,520
If the town of Norway has any comment on this S resolution with the, with the additional paragraph on the rezoning.

991
02:19:45,520 --> 02:19:51,520
I've not seen it or we have not read it, but I have all the confidence in Mr. Ingersoll.

992
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:54,520
He's committed to make this work.

993
02:19:54,520 --> 02:20:00,520
He's happy or happy.

994
02:20:00,520 --> 02:20:04,520
And I would say, Mr. Chairman, to that point.

995
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:15,520
Mr. Ingersoll did not have to do this. And the things that he was offering was talking about doing something with the deed he was trying to figure out how to, how to keep, make the county stronger in with this.

996
02:20:15,520 --> 02:20:26,520
And I really commend him for stepping up and volunteering to, to put something like this in place so that the future use is protected.

997
02:20:26,520 --> 02:20:33,520
Yes, and I can, I can attest to Mr. Ingersoll's willingness to help and compromise because.

998
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:39,520
I believe the town has been working on this solution for almost a year.

999
02:20:39,520 --> 02:20:43,520
Now, before.

1000
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:47,520
Yeah, Mr. Chairman, I just don't follow a question for Corp console.

1001
02:20:47,520 --> 02:20:54,520
What does this paragraph mean? I've never seen this in all my years on the county board that we would add something like this.

1002
02:20:54,520 --> 02:20:58,520
It's quite unique.

1003
02:20:58,520 --> 02:21:03,520
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So, in the wake of our meeting that we had yesterday.

1004
02:21:03,520 --> 02:21:08,520
John search ditch and I have spent some considerable time just researching applicable case law.

1005
02:21:08,520 --> 02:21:23,520
Ultimately, I am comfortable from a legal standpoint that while I would caution against some of those alternative approaches that were mentioned conditioning county approval of a rezone on restrictive deed, something like that.

1006
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:29,520
There's a good chance that would be unlawful. And so I don't recommend going down that path.

1007
02:21:29,520 --> 02:21:41,520
The alternative was codifying through the ordinance that there's a formal reversionary interest. That is not what's drafted here.

1008
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:56,520
The courts have, you know, weighed in on some of those formal reversionary interests. And it's just something that in that abbreviated time, I wasn't comfortable recommending or as your risk manager, you know, recommending approving.

1009
02:21:56,520 --> 02:22:09,520
But what we've drafted is an attempt to supervisor Osterman indicated document the intent, document some of the justification for this.

1010
02:22:09,520 --> 02:22:22,520
You'll notice that it's aware as it's essentially a preamble to the actual substantive ordinance change and documenting that it's been determined by the county that this is in the public interest.

1011
02:22:22,520 --> 02:22:28,520
It's, it's in the interest of public health, safety and welfare to rezone the lands.

1012
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:41,520
But if you continue on it notes that the property may not be appropriate generally for expansion material expansion of the business beyond what was in the petition.

1013
02:22:41,520 --> 02:22:51,520
It may not be appropriate for other uses that are otherwise permitted or permissible in the B three commercial service district.

1014
02:22:51,520 --> 02:23:10,520
But it doesn't specifically state that in the event, whether through Mr. Ingersoll or through a future owner that if they did either propose or take action to materially expand or to alter that use that it would automatically revert back to.

1015
02:23:10,520 --> 02:23:28,520
In agricultural use, it says that it may with the necessary governmental approvals and in this instance, that would be the town of Norway and Racine County to take action to change back the zoning designation for this particular parcel.

1016
02:23:28,520 --> 02:23:39,520
And that's the intent. And so playing it out in real world if 10 years down the road, either through Mr. Ingersoll, through a future owner of the parcel.

1017
02:23:39,520 --> 02:23:50,520
If they took action to materially expand or to turn it into some other authorized use in the B three, but something materially different than what was in the petition.

1018
02:23:50,520 --> 02:24:05,520
In that instance, I could envision the economic development land use planning committee, I could envision the town of Norway inviting that owner before them to explain how this fits within that original rezone.

1019
02:24:05,520 --> 02:24:23,520
This is deemed to be in the public interest. And that could not saying that it would, but it could lead to a rezone to go back to an agricultural designation, or it could lead somewhere else, but minimally would force the discussion.

1020
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:40,520
So that was our intent in drafting this language as a sort of preamble is to one document the intent document that determination that it's in the public interest, but also set forth that in the event it ran a file of that original designation that there's

1021
02:24:40,520 --> 02:24:49,520
the means for the appropriate governmental bodies to review whether that continues to be most appropriate for the community.

1022
02:24:54,520 --> 02:24:56,520
Supervisor crowd here.

1023
02:24:56,520 --> 02:24:58,520
Thank you, Mr Chairman.

1024
02:24:58,520 --> 02:24:59,520
Thank you.

1025
02:24:59,520 --> 02:25:03,520
Supervisor Austin and for all the work you've done with this.

1026
02:25:03,520 --> 02:25:12,520
Ordinance and everything that you have done with the contact with Mr. Ingersoll and our legal counsel.

1027
02:25:12,520 --> 02:25:18,520
I am very supportive of resolution 2026 41s.

1028
02:25:19,520 --> 02:25:24,520
For the number one purpose, if the text the public for future use.

1029
02:25:24,520 --> 02:25:29,520
Yes, I am not fond of spot zoning, which this could be.

1030
02:25:29,520 --> 02:25:37,520
I was nervous about the liability that it could create with the county.

1031
02:25:37,520 --> 02:25:47,520
Also, if this resolution s wasn't added, as Osterman said, this could be a gas station down the road.

1032
02:25:48,520 --> 02:26:00,520
Possibly. Therefore, I am in support of resolution 2026 dash 41s because it does protect the public from future use.

1033
02:26:00,520 --> 02:26:02,520
It also.

1034
02:26:03,520 --> 02:26:07,520
This is the general public for the support in Western Racine County.

1035
02:26:07,520 --> 02:26:12,520
The business adds value to the community and.

1036
02:26:12,520 --> 02:26:14,520
Good luck, Mr Ingersoll.

1037
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:16,520
Should this be approved.

1038
02:26:19,520 --> 02:26:21,520
Any further comments.

1039
02:26:21,520 --> 02:26:27,520
Okay, so we're going to be voting on the ordinance substitution, the amendment.

1040
02:26:27,520 --> 02:26:29,520
It's the majority vote.

1041
02:26:30,520 --> 02:26:32,520
Be a voice majority vote.

1042
02:26:32,520 --> 02:26:42,520
Mr. If I could just interject, I just want to make clear that my understanding of the motion that's before the body is first the motion to amend or substitute.

1043
02:26:42,520 --> 02:26:45,520
And so this would not be to authorize.

1044
02:26:46,520 --> 02:26:52,520
The S ordinance, rather, it would be to replace or substitute the original drafted.

1045
02:26:52,520 --> 02:26:56,520
202641 with 202641.

1046
02:26:56,520 --> 02:27:03,520
Upon that approval, if approved by majority vote, then it would go for another vote on the adoption.

1047
02:27:03,520 --> 02:27:09,520
Right, this is replacing it like an amendment. Okay.

1048
02:27:10,520 --> 02:27:18,520
So we do all do all know who we're voting for a yes vote would replace the S ordinance with the original resolution.

1049
02:27:18,520 --> 02:27:23,520
Does the voice majority vote all in favor say aye.

1050
02:27:23,520 --> 02:27:24,520
Aye.

1051
02:27:24,520 --> 02:27:25,520
Opposed.

1052
02:27:25,520 --> 02:27:27,520
Motion carried.

1053
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:32,520
Mr. Chairman, I would move to adopt 202641s.

1054
02:27:32,520 --> 02:27:37,520
We don't need to have a motion in a second on now.

1055
02:27:38,520 --> 02:27:39,520
We don't know.

1056
02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:41,520
We've already had a motion to do.

1057
02:27:41,520 --> 02:27:44,520
You don't have to re motion, though, at the S got it.

1058
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:49,520
We just now we're going to vote on the resolution 202641s.

1059
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:55,520
Ordinance, excuse me, ordinance 202641s.

1060
02:27:55,520 --> 02:27:57,520
For final approval.

1061
02:27:57,520 --> 02:28:00,520
All in favor say aye.

1062
02:28:00,520 --> 02:28:01,520
Aye.

1063
02:28:01,520 --> 02:28:02,520
Opposed.

1064
02:28:02,520 --> 02:28:04,520
Motion carried.

1065
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:08,520
Thank you.

1066
02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:11,520
Supervisor vice chair.

1067
02:28:11,520 --> 02:28:19,520
Mr. Chairman, just to note, if I may, so at look committee, we have to resign the forms.

1068
02:28:19,520 --> 02:28:21,520
So let's do that before we leave.

1069
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:22,520
Okay, thank you.

1070
02:28:23,520 --> 02:28:26,520
Mr. Chairman, resolution 202648.

1071
02:28:26,520 --> 02:28:28,520
Yes, thank you.

1072
02:28:28,520 --> 02:28:35,520
Mr. Chairman, the resolution 202648 before you is from our finance director, Gwen Zimmer.

1073
02:28:35,520 --> 02:28:51,520
This is a new manual that she's been working out of a project for our finance department to help consolidate modernized clarify and our financial policies and to be happy to have directors in here to expand on this manual that she's worked so hard on.

1074
02:28:52,520 --> 02:29:01,520
Director.

1075
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:03,520
Thank you, Chairman.

1076
02:29:03,520 --> 02:29:19,520
I'm happy to answer any questions specifically about this. The purpose of it is that with the new budget software that will be released with the budget address in September, we're looking over the documents that currently reside in the budget.

1077
02:29:19,520 --> 02:29:26,520
So that the financial policies are in there, decided to take them out so that they can live in their own document.

1078
02:29:26,520 --> 02:29:34,520
This will live on the finance department page. It'll be looked over annually, providing to our auditors and to our bank console.

1079
02:29:34,520 --> 02:29:40,520
It adds a lot of depth to the policies that have already existed.

1080
02:29:40,520 --> 02:29:47,520
We've modernized them. We've looked at other municipalities and best practices by the government finance officers association.

1081
02:29:47,520 --> 02:29:57,520
And it provides continuity of operations for my staff, if I were to leave or others in my department to leave.

1082
02:29:57,520 --> 02:30:00,520
Any questions on the document.

1083
02:30:00,520 --> 02:30:03,520
I read parts of it.

1084
02:30:03,520 --> 02:30:06,520
And it's very, very well done.

1085
02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:08,520
You don't read all 50 pages.

1086
02:30:08,520 --> 02:30:12,520
I read the ones that were interesting.

1087
02:30:12,520 --> 02:30:14,520
Supervisor Miller, you have a question.

1088
02:30:14,520 --> 02:30:19,520
No, I just wanted to thank the finance director for other work. I think this will help.

1089
02:30:19,520 --> 02:30:23,520
It's been mentioned sometimes in the past, but.

1090
02:30:23,520 --> 02:30:29,520
When we are going out for bonding, this type of documentation will be helpful.

1091
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:32,520
Yes, and then bond agencies.

1092
02:30:32,520 --> 02:30:37,520
Care that it exists, but they care that we're in compliance with it regularly.

1093
02:30:37,520 --> 02:30:47,520
So I will provide it to the agencies, but then also we'll have extensive conversation with them about how we're actually doing on it.

1094
02:30:47,520 --> 02:30:49,520
And Mr. Chairman, I just like to add to that.

1095
02:30:49,520 --> 02:30:54,520
Glenn heard staff, but a lot of time and effort into this. She's been working on this for, it's been well over a year.

1096
02:30:54,520 --> 02:30:57,520
Yeah.

1097
02:30:57,520 --> 02:31:00,520
Any further questions or comments.

1098
02:31:00,520 --> 02:31:02,520
So voice majority vote.

1099
02:31:02,520 --> 02:31:04,520
All in favor say aye.

1100
02:31:04,520 --> 02:31:05,520
Opposed.

1101
02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:06,520
Aye.

1102
02:31:06,520 --> 02:31:13,520
Motion carried.

1103
02:31:13,520 --> 02:31:29,520
Next, we have the items for two thirds majority vote. That would be resolution number 2026 dash 44 by finance and human resources committee authorizing the appropriation and use of opioid settlement funds to pay 25% of debt service annually for the series 2026 eight.

1104
02:31:29,520 --> 02:31:35,520
General application promissory notes for the behavioral health building in years 2027 through 2046.

1105
02:31:35,520 --> 02:31:41,520
Not to exceed 8,467,517 dollars.

1106
02:31:41,520 --> 02:31:54,520
Resolution number 2026 dash 45 by finance and human resources committee authorizing the implementation of the mental health symposium and transfer of $3,000 from the opioid settlement fund 2026 budget.

1107
02:31:55,520 --> 02:32:04,520
Resolution number 2026 dash 46 by finance and human resources committee authorizing the creation of one FTE contracted peer support specialist.

1108
02:32:04,520 --> 02:32:09,520
Effective September 30th 2026 through December 31st 2027.

1109
02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:15,520
And transfer of 95,065 dollars from the opioid settlement fund 2026 budget.

1110
02:32:15,520 --> 02:32:23,520
And resolution number 2026 dash 47 by finance and human resources committee authorizing the acceptance of the donation from the watershed protection committee.

1111
02:32:23,520 --> 02:32:35,520
And transfer of 42,270 dollars within the capital 2026 budget for the Kruger finally site improvements.

1112
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:36,520
Chairman.

1113
02:32:36,520 --> 02:32:37,520
Yes.

1114
02:32:37,520 --> 02:32:45,520
Thank you chairman requesting separate consideration for 2026 dash 46 46. Okay.

1115
02:32:46,520 --> 02:32:48,520
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1116
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:51,520
We'll start off with resolution 2026 44.

1117
02:32:51,520 --> 02:33:05,520
This is the clerk would say we're authorized use of opioid settlement funds to pay approximately 12% of the portion of the new behavior health building and the amount of 8,467,517.

1118
02:33:06,520 --> 02:33:20,520
By using the settlement funds for this purpose is compliant with our opioid settlement guidance and it's fiscally responsible strategy to reduce property tax levy impact for debt service and direct resemblance here if you have any other questions in regards to that.

1119
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:23,520
Are there any questions or comments on that.

1120
02:33:24,520 --> 02:33:28,520
Mr. Chairman supervisor Miller. I think just to echo what the.

1121
02:33:28,520 --> 02:33:44,520
Supervisor Myers said this is direct property tax relief because that anticipated $8 million would have had to be on the levy if we didn't use these funds for this purpose.

1122
02:33:44,520 --> 02:33:47,520
Any further questions or comments.

1123
02:33:47,520 --> 02:33:49,520
2026 45 resolution.

1124
02:33:50,520 --> 02:33:57,520
All right. This resolution is for a mental health symposium. This resolution would be the implementation of a mental health symposium.

1125
02:33:57,520 --> 02:34:05,520
This would be the first symposium that would cultivate a peer network among local behavior health providers and sustain ongoing regional collaboration.

1126
02:34:05,520 --> 02:34:15,520
This event is slated for October 7th at Romelage gel and zone Jones is here if you have any questions for her.

1127
02:34:15,520 --> 02:34:17,520
Are there any questions.

1128
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:18,520
Comments.

1129
02:34:19,520 --> 02:34:22,520
Why don't we skip down to 2026 47.

1130
02:34:22,520 --> 02:34:36,520
All right. Resolution 2026 47. This would be an acceptance of a donation from the watershed protection committee ever seen in the amount of $21,135 for a part of a shortfall in a Kruger farm site.

1131
02:34:37,520 --> 02:34:38,520
Improvement.

1132
02:34:38,520 --> 02:34:47,520
The county's balance would come for the transfer of $21,135 from the parks capital P even account for a toll of $42,270.

1133
02:34:47,520 --> 02:34:55,520
And I believe Chad is here from land and water. Chad Sampson is here if there's any questions on that transfer.

1134
02:34:55,520 --> 02:34:58,520
Are there any questions comments on that.

1135
02:34:58,520 --> 02:35:04,520
Okay, so this is a two thirds majority vote on those three resolutions.

1136
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,520
They should fire us up.

1137
02:35:27,520 --> 02:35:30,520
Supervisor Coleman, how do you vote.

1138
02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:36,520
Yes.

1139
02:35:36,520 --> 02:35:38,520
Thank you.

1140
02:35:38,520 --> 02:35:42,520
Supervisor, try to your how do you vote.

1141
02:35:42,520 --> 02:35:43,520
Yes.

1142
02:35:50,520 --> 02:35:52,520
Confirm.

1143
02:35:52,520 --> 02:35:59,520
Superviser, you're a yes as well. Okay. Motion carries unanimously.

1144
02:36:00,520 --> 02:36:01,520
Okay, then.

1145
02:36:01,520 --> 02:36:04,520
Vice chairman, how about 2026 46.

1146
02:36:04,520 --> 02:36:18,520
All right. Thank you chairman. This resolution is for creation of a peer support specialist to create a one FTE contracted position, which would help ensure individuals receive links to treatments and peer support services.

1147
02:36:18,520 --> 02:36:24,520
This position has been an estimated cost of $76,053 and 64 cents per year.

1148
02:36:24,520 --> 02:36:35,520
And it would be a contracted position for September 30, 2026 through December 31, 2027 for total cost of $95,068.

1149
02:36:35,520 --> 02:36:40,520
This position would be reevaluated for 2028 for continued use.

1150
02:36:41,520 --> 02:36:53,520
And needs, or if there's additional funding that would be available. If approved, this position would be used the opioid settlement funds and yelling us here for any questions on this topic.

1151
02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:57,520
Any comments or questions.

1152
02:36:57,520 --> 02:37:00,520
Supervisor Rossi.

1153
02:37:00,520 --> 02:37:01,520
Thank you chairman.

1154
02:37:01,520 --> 02:37:05,520
A situation like this came up when I was still on the.

1155
02:37:06,520 --> 02:37:15,520
Yeah, I'm being a health committee. The name escapes me right now. Sorry. I'm all health and human development. Thank you. Supervisor Miller. You're always right there for it.

1156
02:37:15,520 --> 02:37:18,520
And my concern was.

1157
02:37:18,520 --> 02:37:23,520
And I can't stress the concern I have with this enough.

1158
02:37:23,520 --> 02:37:27,520
We just got done with a one time funding.

1159
02:37:28,520 --> 02:37:36,520
Disaster. We slowly crept up funding and built up our spending. So we were supplementing operations with our funding.

1160
02:37:36,520 --> 02:37:46,520
This is exactly the same thing using opioid funds with our situation of give, give, give this to the budget and I'll feel better about it.

1161
02:37:46,520 --> 02:37:48,520
We are on the eve of the budget.

1162
02:37:49,520 --> 02:38:00,520
We are looking at a situation which so many people that I talked to said, and, you know, nobody really understood the gravity of what we were doing at the time is we were approving our allocations to operations.

1163
02:38:00,520 --> 02:38:04,520
We're, we're starting it again with this.

1164
02:38:04,520 --> 02:38:11,520
If, if this is going to be taken seriously by me, I would at least wait to the budget. We are so close to the budget.

1165
02:38:11,520 --> 02:38:13,520
We're trying to tie this to that.

1166
02:38:13,520 --> 02:38:16,520
We keep adding positions. We added positions previously and they work.

1167
02:38:16,520 --> 02:38:22,520
You know, this, this is one time funds always were grant funded, but it's still stress on our operations.

1168
02:38:22,520 --> 02:38:25,520
When you hire someone or you bring someone in from one department.

1169
02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:30,520
It's, you know, I said at the last meeting, you know, like human services.

1170
02:38:30,520 --> 02:38:32,520
It's more work for them to do.

1171
02:38:32,520 --> 02:38:37,520
So I would like to see this tied to the budget. I'm going to be voting no on this one.

1172
02:38:37,520 --> 02:38:47,520
And I cannot support something that's going to bring us back to a situation that to this day, we really don't even have a good answer about how we got to the ARPA cliff.

1173
02:38:47,520 --> 02:38:51,520
So this is a big red flag for me.

1174
02:38:51,520 --> 02:38:54,520
If I may make one comment.

1175
02:38:55,520 --> 02:39:05,520
When we first received the opiate element dollars, we spoke with board leadership yourself and vice chairman Meyer about how to handle requests for the use of those funds.

1176
02:39:05,520 --> 02:39:15,520
And you both emphatically said that the recommendation needed to come from the task force, which the county executive appointed him at for 18 months and created this recommendation.

1177
02:39:15,520 --> 02:39:26,520
And then your second request is that every single request for use of appropriation of these dollars happen through separate resolution and not to be included in the annual budget.

1178
02:39:26,520 --> 02:39:29,520
That's why you don't see this included in the budget.

1179
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:35,520
You see it as a request outside of the budget so that the resolutions can be tracked individually.

1180
02:39:35,520 --> 02:39:43,520
And we always know what the proving body said for the spend of the dollars.

1181
02:39:44,520 --> 02:39:51,520
I have a question on when this does get printed somewhere in the.

1182
02:39:51,520 --> 02:39:55,520
In the budget or next.

1183
02:39:55,520 --> 02:39:58,520
You know, subsequent budgets.

1184
02:39:58,520 --> 02:40:01,520
Will this be a sunset position?

1185
02:40:01,520 --> 02:40:07,520
It is. Yes, it'll be a sunset position with an expiration of December 31st, 27.

1186
02:40:08,520 --> 02:40:17,520
It'll be handled. It'll be handled just like the sheriff's department with sort of in the sheriff's department with truck inspectors and that.

1187
02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:27,520
Yes. Yeah, with the new budget software for every position, we were able to add a filterable field that says sunset sure false.

1188
02:40:27,520 --> 02:40:39,520
So that will be presented for every position county and contracted so that the board and residents can clearly see which ones are funded with money that will inspire.

1189
02:40:39,520 --> 02:40:42,520
Supervisor, thank you chairman.

1190
02:40:42,520 --> 02:40:47,520
And thank you directors, but I don't think that my request is at odds with what.

1191
02:40:47,520 --> 02:40:51,520
No, I'm just asking. I was just asking the sunset question.

1192
02:40:52,520 --> 02:40:59,520
That my point being is that, you know, like similar to what the axon contract was, it was something that's in the budget, but also needed separate resolution for full authorization.

1193
02:40:59,520 --> 02:41:02,520
So this is the same situation where there's going to be a separate resolution.

1194
02:41:02,520 --> 02:41:06,520
It can be included in the budget. This resolution then times out with the budget.

1195
02:41:06,520 --> 02:41:07,520
No issue.

1196
02:41:07,520 --> 02:41:09,520
Just saying.

1197
02:41:09,520 --> 02:41:11,520
I may just make one comment.

1198
02:41:11,520 --> 02:41:18,520
Unfortunately, the only thing that I hear was being said, the only problem is with the peer support. They are very scarce around the state.

1199
02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:27,520
We were able to obtain one. And obviously it was the perfect timing because we had the additional grant dollars that came through the supplemental dollars.

1200
02:41:27,520 --> 02:41:33,520
We were able to obtain this person in order for us to continue to keep them through September.

1201
02:41:33,520 --> 02:41:36,520
After September 30th, we would need some type of funding.

1202
02:41:36,520 --> 02:41:44,520
Otherwise, obviously they would move on to another opportunity. I will know some of our peer support positions have stayed vacant for close to a year.

1203
02:41:45,520 --> 02:41:59,520
It's a real struggle. And the other initiative that is written in here was our crew overdose response services that also was came out of the opioid advisory committee of figuring out how we can better meet the residents of Racine County.

1204
02:41:59,520 --> 02:42:09,520
Following every overdose that occurs within the county within 24 to 72 hours were to respond. So we already have our crew initiative team that's there and covers the mental health crisis response.

1205
02:42:09,520 --> 02:42:16,520
This would be an additional factor covered, which would require a peer support in order to carry that initiative out.

1206
02:42:19,520 --> 02:42:22,520
Supervisor wish. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1207
02:42:25,520 --> 02:42:30,520
Back a few years ago, I had spoken to.

1208
02:42:31,520 --> 02:42:45,520
County executive delegate about the use of funds from our phone. I was concerned about where that money was going and it wouldn't be replaced in those persons that were hired or was the funding going to come to pay for them down the road.

1209
02:42:45,520 --> 02:42:48,520
That point, you know, not concerned about it.

1210
02:42:48,520 --> 02:42:54,520
He's going to come up with it or he had a plan. Well, unfortunately, he never came around to.

1211
02:42:55,520 --> 02:43:00,520
Conveying what that plan would be or had time to implement a plan.

1212
02:43:00,520 --> 02:43:14,520
I feel the same way as supervisor Rossi and there are other questions I have. It's a sunset position, but if I didn't read that correctly, it also says you're going to reevaluate it down the road.

1213
02:43:14,520 --> 02:43:21,520
And then you're either going to let that person go. If I was that person, I wouldn't feel very happy about it.

1214
02:43:22,520 --> 02:43:29,520
You know, I'm going to come work for you for $95,000 or whatever that is, whatever that amount is, and then I'm gone.

1215
02:43:29,520 --> 02:43:36,520
I don't think that's right. Right. Right. We're on a business and I know this isn't the business, but.

1216
02:43:36,520 --> 02:43:40,520
You have to think about the people involved too that you're hiring.

1217
02:43:40,520 --> 02:43:45,520
Don't dispute that maybe this person is needed, but I.

1218
02:43:46,520 --> 02:43:53,520
I can't vote for something that I don't believe in, and I don't believe in using funds that were designated for something else.

1219
02:43:53,520 --> 02:43:57,520
And we're going down that road that I don't want to go down again.

1220
02:43:57,520 --> 02:44:04,520
Because I warned people about it. And those of you that were on the board have been here long know that.

1221
02:44:04,520 --> 02:44:10,520
So I can't and good and good and good faith or good conscience.

1222
02:44:11,520 --> 02:44:18,520
I agree to it. And again, not disputing the needs, you know, but I am disputing the method.

1223
02:44:18,520 --> 02:44:31,520
I can just make one comment on that. So unfortunately, it's the reality of the world and the population that we serve our state opioid response dollars that come through fund to other peer support positions that are both contract positions.

1224
02:44:32,520 --> 02:44:41,520
Every year or every six, three to six months. Now, when we see things come down from the feds and it's all over the news articles and, you know, whatever Google searches, all of our staff are constantly nervous.

1225
02:44:41,520 --> 02:44:50,520
So unfortunately, it's not the way that we want to run a business, so to speak. However, it's the harsh reality of the funding streams that we have to fund these positions.

1226
02:44:50,520 --> 02:45:00,520
And then also, I just want to add that in our state opioid meetings, when they discuss the opioid dollars, the one overarching theme is how are we serving the community.

1227
02:45:00,520 --> 02:45:08,520
Which we are receiving the funds for. I understand that majority of the funding can go for prevention dollars, treatment dollars, that sort of thing.

1228
02:45:08,520 --> 02:45:13,520
Your support is a crucial element that's required in any type of substance use recovery.

1229
02:45:13,520 --> 02:45:22,520
They are the individuals that are really helping support the individuals that are going through recovery, making sure that helping them navigate the system, connecting them to services.

1230
02:45:22,520 --> 02:45:29,520
I would go on a limb and say that an individual is less successful without this peer support in place.

1231
02:45:30,520 --> 02:45:39,520
And again, my mic is still on and I guess I wasn't finished. Oh, my apologies. No, that's okay. But you just.

1232
02:45:39,520 --> 02:45:44,520
You went another direction and I'm not willing to go and I don't think we should go in that direction.

1233
02:45:44,520 --> 02:45:50,520
Don't dispute the need for the person, but we need to budget this.

1234
02:45:50,520 --> 02:45:58,520
In my opinion, as opposed to taking money away from something that was supposed to go to something else.

1235
02:45:59,520 --> 02:46:04,520
Okay, we could discuss it during budget hearing and I don't understand the philosophy of.

1236
02:46:04,520 --> 02:46:07,520
What was agreed to in the beginning.

1237
02:46:07,520 --> 02:46:11,520
Why, why is this got to be separate resolution? Why isn't this part of the budget?

1238
02:46:11,520 --> 02:46:15,520
Because somebody explained that thinking about enough.

1239
02:46:15,520 --> 02:46:19,520
Supervisor Pritzker was the one that was on the Opium panel.

1240
02:46:19,520 --> 02:46:21,520
I don't know.

1241
02:46:21,520 --> 02:46:25,520
Anybody else was.

1242
02:46:26,520 --> 02:46:29,520
If you want to explain.

1243
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:38,520
I think the majority of the reasons behind it was just so there was transparent where we were spending the money and where it was going by separate resolutions and this goes back to the open settlement.

1244
02:46:38,520 --> 02:46:43,520
This goes back six, seven years, not just from the, not just from a task force.

1245
02:46:43,520 --> 02:46:49,520
But one of the things that the task force wanted to do is just make sure that when they are spending the money that we all know where it's going and what it's for.

1246
02:46:49,520 --> 02:46:53,520
Why does that have to be under resolution when I can't be part of the budget process.

1247
02:46:54,520 --> 02:47:04,520
That this is what was presented as sort of finance. So that's why I don't we can find out about that. It's moving forward. We can see if there's something that would be a better mechanism for it.

1248
02:47:04,520 --> 02:47:07,520
But this is what came to the finance department.

1249
02:47:07,520 --> 02:47:21,520
I don't know the history of this, but I can address that last point. I mean, regardless of whether it were included and first introduced through the, the annual budget, I would still strongly recommend having a separate resolution.

1250
02:47:21,520 --> 02:47:37,520
And then to document that it's a two thirds member elect vote versus the majority vote that the approval of an annual budget is the documentation is clear. This documentation is necessary for auditing purposes for verifying that we're

1251
02:47:37,520 --> 02:47:43,520
expending it for an eligible purpose. And this is an eligible process. You have to do it through a separate solution.

1252
02:47:44,520 --> 02:47:57,520
I would absolutely recommend regardless of whether it's baked within the budget, having a separate resolution also just to make abundantly clear because the document book, it can get lost in that. And so what you could do it through.

1253
02:47:57,520 --> 02:48:01,520
That you're saying it could be done both could be done at the same time.

1254
02:48:01,520 --> 02:48:07,520
It could. It wouldn't address some of those concerns that were raised by staff about the timeliness of the issue.

1255
02:48:07,520 --> 02:48:10,520
But yeah, you could do it that way.

1256
02:48:10,520 --> 02:48:14,520
I mean, that would be only my concern to be if you have a documented that.

1257
02:48:14,520 --> 02:48:16,520
That's what it's for.

1258
02:48:16,520 --> 02:48:21,520
It could be done through the budgetary process. Doesn't have to be done by special resolution.

1259
02:48:21,520 --> 02:48:29,520
That's what you're saying. It needs to be approved by resolution, I believe. Not simply the resolution authorizing the budget.

1260
02:48:29,520 --> 02:48:30,520
Okay.

1261
02:48:30,520 --> 02:48:36,520
I could debate that online, but you've got my just the work my feelings are, I, I, I am not going to be for this.

1262
02:48:37,520 --> 02:48:42,520
And the other just point that I want to make abundantly clear because there was a suggestion that this is not.

1263
02:48:42,520 --> 02:48:47,520
I don't want to put words in your mouth, but not an appropriate use of the funds.

1264
02:48:47,520 --> 02:48:55,520
The appropriateness is a policy decision, but it absolutely is an eligible expenditure under the parameters of the opiate settlement.

1265
02:48:55,520 --> 02:48:56,520
Okay.

1266
02:48:56,520 --> 02:49:01,520
Let's do it during the budgetary process.

1267
02:49:01,520 --> 02:49:03,520
Supervisor Miller.

1268
02:49:03,520 --> 02:49:05,520
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1269
02:49:05,520 --> 02:49:12,520
I certainly share the concerns that supervisor Rossi and wish raised about using.

1270
02:49:12,520 --> 02:49:18,520
So to speak, one time funds and, you know, how are we going to fund things in the future, but.

1271
02:49:18,520 --> 02:49:25,520
The court counsel and I was wondering what your concern was about the appropriate because this.

1272
02:49:25,520 --> 02:49:34,520
This money is designated for this type of position, but my understanding is that we.

1273
02:49:34,520 --> 02:49:38,520
Through some other grants, we are funding this now.

1274
02:49:38,520 --> 02:49:45,520
And if we don't continue it a little ahead of the budget process, that person who is hard to get.

1275
02:49:45,520 --> 02:49:52,520
Could find employment elsewhere and then we lose a good staff member.

1276
02:49:52,520 --> 02:49:58,520
For the whole effort at helping people with their opioid problems.

1277
02:49:58,520 --> 02:50:00,520
So I will support this.

1278
02:50:01,520 --> 02:50:05,520
Supervisor Osterman.

1279
02:50:05,520 --> 02:50:07,520
Thank you, Mr Chairman.

1280
02:50:07,520 --> 02:50:13,520
Supervisor wish I disagree. I do believe that this is an appropriate, a very appropriate.

1281
02:50:13,520 --> 02:50:18,520
Place to spend these monies that I mean, it's in the description.

1282
02:50:18,520 --> 02:50:22,520
And I'll tell you who else I think probably would.

1283
02:50:22,520 --> 02:50:24,520
Have been.

1284
02:50:25,520 --> 02:50:27,520
In favor and thinking it was appropriate.

1285
02:50:27,520 --> 02:50:32,520
One guy who wanted to leave a legacy of mental health services, Jonathan.

1286
02:50:32,520 --> 02:50:36,520
That was his number one issue.

1287
02:50:36,520 --> 02:50:39,520
And when I think about what.

1288
02:50:39,520 --> 02:50:42,520
How he would have felt about this money.

1289
02:50:42,520 --> 02:50:45,520
It would have in my mind been hands down.

1290
02:50:45,520 --> 02:50:49,520
Absolutely no question. This is a very appropriate expenditure and necessary.

1291
02:50:50,520 --> 02:50:57,520
So necessary in fact, when we look at the per capita spending of health and human services, mental health.

1292
02:50:57,520 --> 02:50:59,520
Treatment in our state.

1293
02:50:59,520 --> 02:51:07,520
We're seeing county sets at 71 of 72 counties near dead last.

1294
02:51:07,520 --> 02:51:10,520
That's right.

1295
02:51:10,520 --> 02:51:15,520
So if there was ever an appropriate moment to use.

1296
02:51:15,520 --> 02:51:17,520
OPM other people's money.

1297
02:51:17,520 --> 02:51:20,520
For the betterment of our citizens in our county.

1298
02:51:20,520 --> 02:51:23,520
This is one of them. I support it.

1299
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:28,520
Supervisor Ross, you have a second comment.

1300
02:51:28,520 --> 02:51:29,520
Yes.

1301
02:51:29,520 --> 02:51:33,520
I believe it will be my final. Let me go through some of my items here.

1302
02:51:33,520 --> 02:51:36,520
I do agree that.

1303
02:51:36,520 --> 02:51:40,520
And I'd like to make the distinction that, you know, there is an appropriate use of funds.

1304
02:51:41,520 --> 02:51:46,520
But no, there was not one ARPA dollar that was inappropriately used.

1305
02:51:46,520 --> 02:51:50,520
Just because it's an appropriate use doesn't mean we should do it.

1306
02:51:50,520 --> 02:51:53,520
That's exactly what created the situation. We got it.

1307
02:51:53,520 --> 02:51:56,520
Exactly the same decision making.

1308
02:51:56,520 --> 02:52:02,520
Supervisor asked me to talk about 71 of 72 counties for just spending.

1309
02:52:02,520 --> 02:52:07,520
Again, you know, obviously I'm chair of the committee, but I look to highway.

1310
02:52:07,520 --> 02:52:12,520
We're 72 of 72 by leaps and bounds from what we were when last year,

1311
02:52:12,520 --> 02:52:16,520
when we were 72 and 72 for BHS, BHS position is improved.

1312
02:52:16,520 --> 02:52:20,520
Highway is horrible. We, we're, we're still like several positions.

1313
02:52:20,520 --> 02:52:24,520
I mean, it's not necessarily a funding point that are a funding issue at this time.

1314
02:52:24,520 --> 02:52:29,520
But it previously was those, these decisions all add up.

1315
02:52:29,520 --> 02:52:33,520
I had the comments about.

1316
02:52:33,520 --> 02:52:38,520
I'm not going to ask executive delegate supporting this and he did through ARPA.

1317
02:52:38,520 --> 02:52:41,520
And that's exactly my point.

1318
02:52:41,520 --> 02:52:45,520
That thinking got us into the ARPA situation.

1319
02:52:45,520 --> 02:52:48,520
I don't agree with any, I disagree with anything that's been said.

1320
02:52:48,520 --> 02:52:51,520
I'm just looking at it a completely different way.

1321
02:52:51,520 --> 02:52:56,520
This, you know, I, I do have a question for you, Chilene, right now.

1322
02:52:56,520 --> 02:52:59,520
This is being funded by grants right now. This position.

1323
02:52:59,520 --> 02:53:00,520
Yes, it is.

1324
02:53:00,520 --> 02:53:04,520
So this would be an example of a position that would sunset when funding runs out,

1325
02:53:04,520 --> 02:53:08,520
but that doesn't happen. We keep funding.

1326
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:12,520
I honestly can't think of a single position that sunset in my two and a half years here.

1327
02:53:12,520 --> 02:53:16,520
No.

1328
02:53:16,520 --> 02:53:20,520
Victim witness plus three positions last summer.

1329
02:53:20,520 --> 02:53:24,520
So three positions and how many that we've had.

1330
02:53:24,520 --> 02:53:28,520
Also, the CMB positions will be expiring in September.

1331
02:53:28,520 --> 02:53:29,520
Okay.

1332
02:53:29,520 --> 02:53:34,520
Will be. I mean, I'd like to see that that we're actually sunsetting positions because of our,

1333
02:53:34,520 --> 02:53:35,520
what I consider.

1334
02:53:35,520 --> 02:53:41,520
And not so stable financial position. And then the next three years, we'll see where we are.

1335
02:53:41,520 --> 02:53:48,520
But we're talking about when we are supporting doing the exact same thing that created our last issue.

1336
02:53:48,520 --> 02:53:50,520
I'm actually, I'm a shock.

1337
02:53:50,520 --> 02:53:52,520
That's it for me.

1338
02:53:52,520 --> 02:53:53,520
Thank you.

1339
02:53:53,520 --> 02:53:54,520
Tony executive.

1340
02:53:54,520 --> 02:53:59,520
So I just want to support what supervisor Miller said and counter what supervisor wish.

1341
02:53:59,520 --> 02:54:02,520
Built up there.

1342
02:54:02,520 --> 02:54:05,520
You want consistency and employment.

1343
02:54:05,520 --> 02:54:11,520
This is going to run out of grant funding. The person currently exists on staff.

1344
02:54:11,520 --> 02:54:14,520
Person goes away in September.

1345
02:54:14,520 --> 02:54:19,520
We agree that this is a acceptable purpose of this money.

1346
02:54:20,520 --> 02:54:24,520
So now you want us to go back out in January after the budgets passed.

1347
02:54:24,520 --> 02:54:26,520
Even though you have the money.

1348
02:54:26,520 --> 02:54:29,520
That is appropriately spent here.

1349
02:54:29,520 --> 02:54:32,520
And rehire that professional position.

1350
02:54:32,520 --> 02:54:34,520
That's.

1351
02:54:34,520 --> 02:54:35,520
Difficult.

1352
02:54:35,520 --> 02:54:38,520
That person's not going to be there in three months.

1353
02:54:38,520 --> 02:54:41,520
And I understand about the longevity.

1354
02:54:41,520 --> 02:54:45,520
That doesn't work today with the funding sources.

1355
02:54:46,520 --> 02:54:48,520
So I just want to reiterate.

1356
02:54:48,520 --> 02:54:50,520
What supervisor Miller said.

1357
02:54:50,520 --> 02:54:52,520
The position already exists.

1358
02:54:52,520 --> 02:54:56,520
And yes, we will hold to sunset position supervisor Rossi.

1359
02:54:56,520 --> 02:54:59,520
If it's sunset, it's sunset.

1360
02:54:59,520 --> 02:55:01,520
Period.

1361
02:55:01,520 --> 02:55:04,520
When we see the three CMV officers go away.

1362
02:55:04,520 --> 02:55:08,520
If there's openings in the sheriff's department, they'll be repositioned.

1363
02:55:08,520 --> 02:55:11,520
That's just a fact.

1364
02:55:11,520 --> 02:55:12,520
There's no hiding.

1365
02:55:12,520 --> 02:55:13,520
There's no shell game.

1366
02:55:14,520 --> 02:55:16,520
Sunset positions are sunset.

1367
02:55:16,520 --> 02:55:18,520
That's all I have to say about that.

1368
02:55:18,520 --> 02:55:23,520
Any further questions supervisor Miller.

1369
02:55:23,520 --> 02:55:24,520
I think.

1370
02:55:24,520 --> 02:55:25,520
Okay.

1371
02:55:25,520 --> 02:55:26,520
Supervisor.

1372
02:55:26,520 --> 02:55:27,520
Okay.

1373
02:55:27,520 --> 02:55:28,520
Supervisor Hopkins.

1374
02:55:28,520 --> 02:55:29,520
And then I'm.

1375
02:55:29,520 --> 02:55:31,520
Supervisor Coleman will be next.

1376
02:55:31,520 --> 02:55:33,520
I do see.

1377
02:55:33,520 --> 02:55:34,520
It's.

1378
02:55:34,520 --> 02:55:36,520
Clearly an appropriate of funds.

1379
02:55:36,520 --> 02:55:39,520
And right when this resolution.

1380
02:55:39,520 --> 02:55:42,520
Was introduced immediately in the back of my head.

1381
02:55:43,520 --> 02:55:47,520
Because of the previous conversation we've had, I thought about the budget.

1382
02:55:47,520 --> 02:55:49,520
And ultimately.

1383
02:55:49,520 --> 02:55:53,520
Chair, you addressed that by simply stating.

1384
02:55:53,520 --> 02:55:55,520
It's sunset.

1385
02:55:55,520 --> 02:55:58,520
It's sunset. So.

1386
02:55:58,520 --> 02:56:03,520
And I would also add that anyone being hired.

1387
02:56:03,520 --> 02:56:06,520
I'm sure we'd be.

1388
02:56:06,520 --> 02:56:08,520
Completely transparent.

1389
02:56:09,520 --> 02:56:12,520
It's just acknowledging.

1390
02:56:12,520 --> 02:56:14,520
The circumstances where she being hired, and they would know.

1391
02:56:14,520 --> 02:56:17,520
That this position.

1392
02:56:17,520 --> 02:56:20,520
There's look to be a sunset position. So they could make it a decision.

1393
02:56:20,520 --> 02:56:22,520
Agree to it.

1394
02:56:22,520 --> 02:56:23,520
So they would understand.

1395
02:56:23,520 --> 02:56:25,520
It is a sunset position.

1396
02:56:25,520 --> 02:56:27,520
So there wouldn't be any sense of.

1397
02:56:27,520 --> 02:56:29,520
Of.

1398
02:56:29,520 --> 02:56:32,520
Well, I didn't know or something of that nature.

1399
02:56:32,520 --> 02:56:34,120
it is a sunset position.

1400
02:56:34,120 --> 02:56:36,500
So I don't see this being the issue

1401
02:56:36,500 --> 02:56:38,720
was they understand that and they take on the position.

1402
02:56:38,720 --> 02:56:42,640
So for those reasons, I support this resolution.

1403
02:56:45,040 --> 02:56:46,360
Supervisor Coleman.

1404
02:56:50,440 --> 02:56:54,480
Well, I don't support, I'm not in support of this.

1405
02:56:55,280 --> 02:56:58,060
Sitting on the HD committee,

1406
02:56:59,060 --> 02:57:03,660
we should really be worried about using these funds

1407
02:57:03,660 --> 02:57:08,260
with for the opioid crisis

1408
02:57:08,260 --> 02:57:11,260
and important into the community

1409
02:57:11,260 --> 02:57:13,500
and using it for the community,

1410
02:57:13,500 --> 02:57:16,340
not for our positions.

1411
02:57:16,340 --> 02:57:18,100
So I am not in favor of this

1412
02:57:18,100 --> 02:57:20,700
and we really do need to wait until budget time

1413
02:57:20,700 --> 02:57:22,220
and add it in as a position

1414
02:57:22,220 --> 02:57:24,900
and we need to take those funds

1415
02:57:24,940 --> 02:57:28,460
and use it for what they were supposed to be used for

1416
02:57:28,460 --> 02:57:31,540
and that's born and actually into the community.

1417
02:57:31,540 --> 02:57:32,380
Thanks.

1418
02:57:34,620 --> 02:57:35,700
Supervisor Miller.

1419
02:57:35,700 --> 02:57:36,620
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1420
02:57:36,620 --> 02:57:38,420
Now I have two points in full support

1421
02:57:38,420 --> 02:57:41,060
of Supervisor Coleman's point.

1422
02:57:41,060 --> 02:57:41,740
I would just ask,

1423
02:57:41,740 --> 02:57:46,020
Yona, are we not serving the community with this person?

1424
02:57:46,020 --> 02:57:48,180
This position primarily works in the community.

1425
02:57:48,180 --> 02:57:50,060
There's nothing that they're doing in the office.

1426
02:57:50,060 --> 02:57:50,980
If they're in the office,

1427
02:57:50,980 --> 02:57:52,780
they're meeting with the consumer.

1428
02:57:53,660 --> 02:57:57,460
So this is direct citizen contact.

1429
02:57:57,460 --> 02:58:02,460
So I would all do respect with Supervisor Coleman.

1430
02:58:02,460 --> 02:58:05,860
This is exactly what I think both of us are calling for

1431
02:58:05,860 --> 02:58:09,340
and that is direct service to our constituents.

1432
02:58:09,340 --> 02:58:12,380
My second point with indulgence to my colleagues

1433
02:58:12,380 --> 02:58:14,140
because I say this so often,

1434
02:58:15,940 --> 02:58:17,380
I was really disheartened

1435
02:58:17,380 --> 02:58:20,140
and I had respect for Supervisor Ostrman

1436
02:58:20,180 --> 02:58:24,420
but to use that very misleading number from WCA

1437
02:58:24,420 --> 02:58:26,780
about human services spending.

1438
02:58:26,780 --> 02:58:28,300
I will say it again,

1439
02:58:28,300 --> 02:58:33,300
we have lower spending because we focus on prevention

1440
02:58:33,780 --> 02:58:37,300
and we are highly successful at preventing

1441
02:58:37,300 --> 02:58:40,540
all kinds of problems that other counties have to deal with

1442
02:58:40,540 --> 02:58:43,940
because they don't focus on prevention

1443
02:58:43,940 --> 02:58:45,660
as successfully as we do.

1444
02:58:45,660 --> 02:58:50,660
Any further questions or comments?

1445
02:58:51,620 --> 02:58:52,460
Jeremy.

1446
02:58:53,980 --> 02:58:57,100
Okay, and Supervisor Coleman for your second time.

1447
02:58:57,100 --> 02:58:59,860
Okay, I just wanted to come back

1448
02:58:59,860 --> 02:59:03,740
because I heard what you said Supervisor Miller's

1449
02:59:03,740 --> 02:59:05,540
but yeah, it's gonna be-

1450
02:59:05,540 --> 02:59:06,700
Make sure you address-

1451
02:59:06,700 --> 02:59:07,540
Make sure you address-

1452
02:59:07,540 --> 02:59:11,100
I know, the board, the board, I know, I know, I know that

1453
02:59:11,100 --> 02:59:13,980
but all I'm saying is that it's a position

1454
02:59:14,020 --> 02:59:17,420
that's helping us, that's supposed to help the community

1455
02:59:17,420 --> 02:59:21,140
but the funds would better be spent on something

1456
02:59:21,140 --> 02:59:25,100
with the community instead of a position.

1457
02:59:25,100 --> 02:59:28,980
So that's why I stay in my position

1458
02:59:28,980 --> 02:59:30,340
and saying that I'm against it

1459
02:59:30,340 --> 02:59:32,260
and that we should wait until budget time.

1460
02:59:33,540 --> 02:59:36,100
There's a lot of positions that's needed in the world

1461
02:59:36,100 --> 02:59:37,020
and things like that

1462
02:59:37,020 --> 02:59:39,860
but there's a time and place of everything

1463
02:59:39,860 --> 02:59:42,140
and why can't it wait until budget?

1464
02:59:44,980 --> 02:59:47,980
If I may just make one comment.

1465
02:59:47,980 --> 02:59:49,180
Should go ahead.

1466
02:59:49,180 --> 02:59:51,580
The only thing that I want to add to this

1467
02:59:51,580 --> 02:59:53,460
in consideration to be given

1468
02:59:53,460 --> 02:59:56,900
is for as far as the crew overdose response,

1469
02:59:56,900 --> 02:59:59,500
we are responding, this is what we're trying to move for.

1470
02:59:59,500 --> 03:00:01,260
This additional position is to respond

1471
03:00:01,260 --> 03:00:04,260
to all overdoses that take place for us seeing county.

1472
03:00:04,260 --> 03:00:07,780
We're gathering dispatch data, law enforcement,

1473
03:00:07,780 --> 03:00:10,660
ambulance, EMS data to let us know

1474
03:00:10,660 --> 03:00:12,540
where the overdose occurring in this individual

1475
03:00:12,540 --> 03:00:15,940
we'd be responding with our crew initiative team

1476
03:00:15,940 --> 03:00:17,300
to make sure that we're following up.

1477
03:00:17,300 --> 03:00:20,860
So unfortunately, if we're not able to get this position,

1478
03:00:20,860 --> 03:00:22,460
we will have to halt on that.

1479
03:00:22,460 --> 03:00:25,260
We will not have staff to fill that peer support role.

1480
03:00:28,660 --> 03:00:31,180
Any further comments or questions?

1481
03:00:31,180 --> 03:00:32,020
Sure, good.

1482
03:00:32,020 --> 03:00:33,380
I just want to clear up something.

1483
03:00:33,380 --> 03:00:35,620
I'm not against the person and I'm not

1484
03:00:35,620 --> 03:00:45,540
concerned, basically, about my main focus wasn't about

1485
03:00:45,540 --> 03:00:52,540
sun setting the person and being clarified to me

1486
03:00:52,540 --> 03:00:55,140
that that person's going to be gone.

1487
03:00:55,140 --> 03:00:56,700
That's my exact point.

1488
03:00:59,300 --> 03:01:00,660
You know, we need the person,

1489
03:01:00,660 --> 03:01:03,180
we're going to need the person down the road.

1490
03:01:03,180 --> 03:01:07,060
I just don't think this is the way to go about it right now.

1491
03:01:07,060 --> 03:01:12,580
OK, whether it's sunset or whatever, OK?

1492
03:01:12,580 --> 03:01:19,820
So that was my point, you know, not necessarily anything

1493
03:01:19,820 --> 03:01:21,660
other than that.

1494
03:01:21,660 --> 03:01:26,420
And we've gone through this once before.

1495
03:01:26,420 --> 03:01:29,100
And my problem is, you know, the ARPA funds

1496
03:01:29,100 --> 03:01:30,140
were one-time purpose.

1497
03:01:30,140 --> 03:01:30,700
They're gone.

1498
03:01:33,500 --> 03:01:36,580
There was nothing to fall back on for anybody.

1499
03:01:36,580 --> 03:01:39,340
I don't want this situation coming around

1500
03:01:39,340 --> 03:01:42,860
like we went through the last time.

1501
03:01:42,860 --> 03:01:43,380
That's it.

1502
03:01:43,380 --> 03:01:46,380
Thank you.

1503
03:01:46,380 --> 03:01:47,860
Supervisor Spencer.

1504
03:01:47,860 --> 03:01:48,900
Thank you.

1505
03:01:48,900 --> 03:01:52,860
I didn't want to go here as a person who

1506
03:01:52,860 --> 03:01:58,380
lost two people over the last three years to overdoses

1507
03:01:58,380 --> 03:02:00,780
in your not direct family members,

1508
03:02:00,780 --> 03:02:06,100
but close to our family members.

1509
03:02:06,100 --> 03:02:07,660
They probably could have benefited

1510
03:02:07,660 --> 03:02:09,340
from a peer support specialist.

1511
03:02:09,340 --> 03:02:11,300
So I just want to put it out there.

1512
03:02:11,300 --> 03:02:15,860
I am 100% in support of this.

1513
03:02:15,860 --> 03:02:17,140
Supervisor Woodrum.

1514
03:02:17,140 --> 03:02:19,140
Thank you, Chair.

1515
03:02:19,140 --> 03:02:22,780
You know, initially was going to know on this.

1516
03:02:23,420 --> 03:02:28,220
But what turned me on this was the fact

1517
03:02:28,220 --> 03:02:31,140
that this is working directly with folks

1518
03:02:31,140 --> 03:02:35,500
that need this type of assistance

1519
03:02:35,500 --> 03:02:39,420
and to echo a little bit of what Supervisor Spencer just

1520
03:02:39,420 --> 03:02:41,500
mentioned.

1521
03:02:41,500 --> 03:02:43,660
Having folks that I've taken in personally

1522
03:02:43,660 --> 03:02:47,060
to my house that have suffered from this

1523
03:02:47,060 --> 03:02:50,500
and have also benefited from some of the programs

1524
03:02:50,500 --> 03:02:55,540
in Racing County, I'm going to vote yes on this.

1525
03:02:55,540 --> 03:02:58,340
I'm going to support the county executive

1526
03:02:58,340 --> 03:03:00,220
in his comments that this will sunset.

1527
03:03:03,460 --> 03:03:07,500
Normally, I'm not in favor of using one-time funds by any means,

1528
03:03:07,500 --> 03:03:12,460
but this is something that I will make an exception for.

1529
03:03:12,460 --> 03:03:13,420
So I'm going to vote yes.

1530
03:03:16,420 --> 03:03:18,060
Any further comments or questions?

1531
03:03:20,740 --> 03:03:21,540
Go ahead.

1532
03:03:21,540 --> 03:03:22,540
Last time.

1533
03:03:22,540 --> 03:03:25,380
Thank you, Chairman.

1534
03:03:25,380 --> 03:03:28,820
In the sunset situation, if this truly were to sunset

1535
03:03:28,820 --> 03:03:30,820
and you're talking about this position being something

1536
03:03:30,820 --> 03:03:33,260
that you could not move forward with a program

1537
03:03:33,260 --> 03:03:36,220
unless they existed, if they sunset in the future,

1538
03:03:36,220 --> 03:03:39,180
then you'd realize that situation not.

1539
03:03:39,180 --> 03:03:41,820
So that's really not a good reason for me

1540
03:03:41,820 --> 03:03:44,980
to vote yes on something like this.

1541
03:03:44,980 --> 03:03:48,900
And honestly, I think this opioid situation

1542
03:03:48,940 --> 03:03:51,420
is a very real thing for everyone.

1543
03:03:51,420 --> 03:03:54,180
I had someone who's a brother to me,

1544
03:03:54,180 --> 03:03:55,340
a year and a half ago die.

1545
03:03:55,340 --> 03:03:57,220
I don't think that makes me any more or less qualified

1546
03:03:57,220 --> 03:04:00,700
to speak on this issue, so I just wanted to get that out there

1547
03:04:00,700 --> 03:04:02,820
that this does affect everyone.

1548
03:04:02,820 --> 03:04:07,340
But I'm going back to what I said about one-time funds

1549
03:04:07,340 --> 03:04:10,100
were stepping right back into that same situation.

1550
03:04:10,100 --> 03:04:11,980
We're going to use one-time funds.

1551
03:04:11,980 --> 03:04:13,620
We're going to fund positions.

1552
03:04:13,620 --> 03:04:15,420
This is being described as a critical position

1553
03:04:15,420 --> 03:04:17,660
that really can't go unfunded, but at the same time,

1554
03:04:17,660 --> 03:04:19,220
we're talking about, well, when it sunsets,

1555
03:04:19,220 --> 03:04:20,380
then it'll be okay.

1556
03:04:20,380 --> 03:04:24,420
There's something that will change then, very confusing.

1557
03:04:24,420 --> 03:04:25,980
That's it, thank you.

1558
03:04:25,980 --> 03:04:28,620
I have yet just one question for the director.

1559
03:04:29,820 --> 03:04:34,420
So we have a grant currently that sunsets

1560
03:04:34,420 --> 03:04:37,500
must be a federal grant, September 30th.

1561
03:04:37,500 --> 03:04:39,500
So there's nothing that happens October.

1562
03:04:41,460 --> 03:04:44,500
Did we reapply for that grant or was there no grant

1563
03:04:44,500 --> 03:04:47,340
to reapply for it by federal funding cuts?

1564
03:04:47,340 --> 03:04:48,620
These were supplemental funds.

1565
03:04:48,620 --> 03:04:50,620
There were no supplemental funds.

1566
03:04:50,620 --> 03:04:54,460
So that's why.

1567
03:04:54,460 --> 03:04:59,460
So, and I kind of agree with Supervisor Rossi here

1568
03:05:00,020 --> 03:05:03,380
when the sunsets, and one-time funds,

1569
03:05:03,380 --> 03:05:06,180
because I got and Supervisor Wish,

1570
03:05:06,180 --> 03:05:11,180
because of the one-time funding

1571
03:05:11,380 --> 03:05:14,180
and the problem with ARPA money.

1572
03:05:15,180 --> 03:05:16,940
But we didn't see this.

1573
03:05:16,940 --> 03:05:21,940
I mean, I know if we funded another,

1574
03:05:22,820 --> 03:05:26,260
what $25,000, we would've went to the end of the month,

1575
03:05:26,260 --> 03:05:28,520
end of the year for this position.

1576
03:05:29,460 --> 03:05:33,300
You know, I think we maybe have to take a look at that.

1577
03:05:33,300 --> 03:05:36,420
So we kind of get away from this funding.

1578
03:05:36,420 --> 03:05:39,460
I understand federal funding is gonna always end

1579
03:05:39,460 --> 03:05:43,220
on September 30th, but if we think it's a good enough

1580
03:05:43,220 --> 03:05:46,740
program to have, especially when you get into the opium

1581
03:05:46,740 --> 03:05:50,940
and the drug, you know, that's something that I think

1582
03:05:50,940 --> 03:05:54,420
the county board here would spend the money

1583
03:05:54,420 --> 03:05:56,300
out of taxpayer's funds to do that.

1584
03:05:56,300 --> 03:05:58,380
So it's something.

1585
03:05:58,380 --> 03:06:01,380
And that's all I have to say,

1586
03:06:01,380 --> 03:06:06,380
because it's an opium problem touches every family usually.

1587
03:06:10,100 --> 03:06:12,100
So any other questions?

1588
03:06:12,100 --> 03:06:12,940
Chairman.

1589
03:06:14,340 --> 03:06:16,340
Last time, Supervisor Coleman.

1590
03:06:17,580 --> 03:06:20,620
I was listening to what everybody was saying,

1591
03:06:20,620 --> 03:06:22,500
talking about personal stories.

1592
03:06:22,500 --> 03:06:25,020
My father actually died from overdose, okay?

1593
03:06:25,020 --> 03:06:30,020
So nobody knows this story well, like then I do, okay?

1594
03:06:30,980 --> 03:06:34,380
So what I'm saying is being a person

1595
03:06:34,380 --> 03:06:38,220
that it did touch me, my father,

1596
03:06:38,220 --> 03:06:41,620
I wish that it would've been something to help him,

1597
03:06:42,580 --> 03:06:47,260
before then iron a position to be able

1598
03:06:48,300 --> 03:06:50,580
to try to prevent it.

1599
03:06:50,580 --> 03:06:53,740
So nobody knows this as well as I do.

1600
03:06:53,740 --> 03:06:55,740
There's a lot of things that you guys just don't know

1601
03:06:55,740 --> 03:06:57,860
about my life, but.

1602
03:06:57,860 --> 03:07:00,340
Okay, let's keep it to remain to the position.

1603
03:07:00,340 --> 03:07:02,820
I understand, I understand.

1604
03:07:02,820 --> 03:07:06,060
But the thing about it is when we're throwing out things,

1605
03:07:06,060 --> 03:07:08,580
there's somebody that has direct contact

1606
03:07:08,580 --> 03:07:12,220
with this situation, and it was my father.

1607
03:07:12,220 --> 03:07:13,620
So that's what I'm saying.

1608
03:07:13,620 --> 03:07:15,740
Supervisor Coleman, that to be mean,

1609
03:07:15,740 --> 03:07:17,780
but we need to talk about the position

1610
03:07:17,780 --> 03:07:19,220
and the funding here.

1611
03:07:19,220 --> 03:07:23,500
And that's why the position does not matter right now

1612
03:07:23,500 --> 03:07:25,980
that it could wait until budget time.

1613
03:07:25,980 --> 03:07:29,140
It could wait until budget time.

1614
03:07:29,140 --> 03:07:30,700
It's not important right now.

1615
03:07:31,620 --> 03:07:34,300
Those funds could be used for something better.

1616
03:07:34,300 --> 03:07:35,660
Okay, thank you.

1617
03:07:35,660 --> 03:07:36,500
Thank you.

1618
03:07:37,500 --> 03:07:38,660
Second time.

1619
03:07:39,860 --> 03:07:44,020
Except that we lose a trained and qualified person.

1620
03:07:45,260 --> 03:07:47,100
We're taking that risk.

1621
03:07:52,380 --> 03:07:55,340
Any further questions, comments?

1622
03:07:55,340 --> 03:07:58,940
Mike, sorry, let me ask a very fine question.

1623
03:07:58,940 --> 03:08:00,980
The scenario that you just laid out about,

1624
03:08:02,500 --> 03:08:05,420
if the position were to sunset,

1625
03:08:06,540 --> 03:08:07,940
I'm sorry, if the position were to expire

1626
03:08:07,940 --> 03:08:09,220
at the end of September,

1627
03:08:09,220 --> 03:08:10,900
and then we were to fund that position

1628
03:08:10,900 --> 03:08:12,300
for the end of the year,

1629
03:08:12,300 --> 03:08:13,740
I mean, is that an option?

1630
03:08:13,740 --> 03:08:15,540
Instead of doing this,

1631
03:08:15,540 --> 03:08:18,700
I'm just asking the question since you opened the door.

1632
03:08:18,700 --> 03:08:23,060
Well, I'm saying when we have federal budget,

1633
03:08:23,060 --> 03:08:25,300
it's September, you know.

1634
03:08:25,300 --> 03:08:27,020
So you've got the last quarter.

1635
03:08:27,020 --> 03:08:31,540
I think this was a $80,000 job, $25,000

1636
03:08:31,540 --> 03:08:34,500
with Social Security and taxes.

1637
03:08:35,500 --> 03:08:37,780
And that's a possibility.

1638
03:08:37,780 --> 03:08:40,420
You know, that's more of a finance director

1639
03:08:40,420 --> 03:08:42,020
and county executive.

1640
03:08:42,020 --> 03:08:44,060
Now we do have the Opium funds.

1641
03:08:45,700 --> 03:08:50,700
I, you know, we all agree that this is a correct use of them.

1642
03:08:52,220 --> 03:08:53,180
You know, so,

1643
03:08:56,300 --> 03:08:59,100
horse a piece in my mind.

1644
03:08:59,100 --> 03:09:02,520
I mean, the Opium funds could be used on something else.

1645
03:09:03,520 --> 03:09:08,160
And then we fund this or we use the funds over here.

1646
03:09:08,160 --> 03:09:12,640
And this other thing that we were going to fund with the $90,000,

1647
03:09:12,640 --> 03:09:14,640
you fund with levy.

1648
03:09:14,640 --> 03:09:18,640
I mean, you know, I take my right pocket

1649
03:09:18,640 --> 03:09:21,800
and put it in my left kind of thing.

1650
03:09:21,800 --> 03:09:24,280
So it's one option.

1651
03:09:24,280 --> 03:09:26,520
I think that's really a finance director

1652
03:09:26,520 --> 03:09:29,240
and a county executive and a committee

1653
03:09:29,240 --> 03:09:31,360
how they bring it to us, you know.

1654
03:09:33,520 --> 03:09:37,520
Any further questions?

1655
03:09:37,520 --> 03:09:39,520
This is a two thirds majority vote.

1656
03:09:39,520 --> 03:09:44,520
Okay.

1657
03:10:04,520 --> 03:10:06,760
Supervisor Coleman, how do you vote?

1658
03:10:06,760 --> 03:10:07,600
No.

1659
03:10:10,520 --> 03:10:13,520
Supervisor Trattier, how do you vote?

1660
03:10:21,520 --> 03:10:23,520
Supervisor Trattier.

1661
03:10:25,520 --> 03:10:26,520
Yes.

1662
03:10:26,520 --> 03:10:27,520
Yeah.

1663
03:10:27,520 --> 03:10:28,520
Okay. Thank you.

1664
03:10:29,520 --> 03:10:30,520
Thank you.

1665
03:10:38,520 --> 03:10:39,520
This is by.

1666
03:10:47,520 --> 03:10:49,520
Motion carries.

1667
03:10:50,520 --> 03:10:54,520
Now we have the items that have been requested for.

1668
03:10:55,520 --> 03:11:01,520
Second reading first, excuse me, first and second reading this evening that we read in under first reading.

1669
03:11:01,520 --> 03:11:05,520
They could be taken together. They are both a two thirds majority vote.

1670
03:11:05,520 --> 03:11:10,520
That would be resolution number 2026 dash 50 by the finance and human resources committee.

1671
03:11:10,520 --> 03:11:18,520
Authorizing the acceptance of Wisconsin Department of Health Services grant the amount of $166,724.

1672
03:11:18,520 --> 03:11:22,520
And transfer funds within the human services department 2026 budget.

1673
03:11:22,520 --> 03:11:27,520
And resolution number 2026 dash 51 by finance and human resources committee.

1674
03:11:27,520 --> 03:11:34,520
Authorizing the acceptance of a Wisconsin Department of Health Services grant the amount of $200,976.

1675
03:11:34,520 --> 03:11:40,520
And transfer funds within the human services department 2026 budget.

1676
03:11:40,520 --> 03:11:43,520
Motion has been made and seconded.

1677
03:11:43,520 --> 03:11:45,520
Vice Chairman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1678
03:11:46,520 --> 03:11:47,520
2026 50.

1679
03:11:47,520 --> 03:11:58,520
As the clickest, this is request, except the substance abuse prevention treatment and recovery services block grant supplemental award in the amount of $166,724.

1680
03:11:58,520 --> 03:12:03,520
These funds would help with the purchase of evidence based treatment curriculum and educational materials,

1681
03:12:03,520 --> 03:12:08,520
as well as purchasing a supply such as betting pillows, linens, personal hygiene products, et cetera.

1682
03:12:08,520 --> 03:12:13,520
This supplemental grant does not require a match and we recommend the acceptance of the funds.

1683
03:12:13,520 --> 03:12:21,520
We're asking for first and second reading for these funds because the supplemental grant needs to be spent by September 30.

1684
03:12:21,520 --> 03:12:26,520
And regards to resolution resolution number 2651.

1685
03:12:26,520 --> 03:12:33,520
This is another supplemental grant from the Department of Health Services for a community mental health service block.

1686
03:12:33,520 --> 03:12:47,520
This grant supplemental funds in the amount of $200,976 for programs and it allows us to expand our housing focus for individuals with serious mental illness.

1687
03:12:47,520 --> 03:12:55,520
This will be a partnership with our nonprofits to create a referral pathways for our individuals that need care and face challenges of housing.

1688
03:12:55,520 --> 03:12:58,520
And the supplemental grant does not require a match.

1689
03:12:58,520 --> 03:13:04,520
And we're asking for first and second reading because this grant needs to be spent by September 30 as well.

1690
03:13:04,520 --> 03:13:08,520
And y'all want to see if there's any questions in regards to those grants.

1691
03:13:08,520 --> 03:13:13,520
So you've heard the vice chairman and this typically we don't like to do first second readings.

1692
03:13:13,520 --> 03:13:20,520
However, when the state or federal government has supplemental funds that we need quick action.

1693
03:13:21,520 --> 03:13:24,520
So, are there any questions for Helena?

1694
03:13:30,520 --> 03:13:31,520
We can agree on something.

1695
03:13:34,520 --> 03:13:37,520
I call the question so it's a two thirds majority vote.

1696
03:13:51,520 --> 03:13:56,520
Supervisor Coleman, how do you vote?

1697
03:14:02,520 --> 03:14:03,520
Yes.

1698
03:14:03,520 --> 03:14:05,520
Thank you.

1699
03:14:05,520 --> 03:14:08,520
Oh, shoot. I hit the wrong button.

1700
03:14:08,520 --> 03:14:10,520
Supervisor, how do you vote?

1701
03:14:10,520 --> 03:14:11,520
Yes.

1702
03:14:11,520 --> 03:14:17,520
No.

1703
03:14:18,520 --> 03:14:20,520
Motion carries unanimously.

1704
03:14:27,520 --> 03:14:29,520
Item number 13.

1705
03:14:29,520 --> 03:14:35,520
Reconsiderations of resolutions and ordinance from previous meetings and our action on videos.

1706
03:14:35,520 --> 03:14:38,520
There are no items.

1707
03:14:39,520 --> 03:14:44,520
Reconsideration of and or notice of intent to reconsider resolutions and ordinances.

1708
03:14:44,520 --> 03:14:48,520
There are no items to reconsider informational reports.

1709
03:14:48,520 --> 03:14:49,520
Apparently.

1710
03:14:49,520 --> 03:14:53,520
Information all reports on tonight's agenda.

1711
03:14:53,520 --> 03:14:59,520
And then with that number 16, miscellaneous business announcements and all reports.

1712
03:15:00,520 --> 03:15:09,520
I'd like to remind everybody as a supervisor Weatherston here has got his IT and I see a few other of them out there.

1713
03:15:09,520 --> 03:15:14,520
If you haven't got your IT laptop yet, get with the IT and schedule up a meeting.

1714
03:15:14,520 --> 03:15:18,520
And then also I'd like to thank the nine.

1715
03:15:18,520 --> 03:15:23,520
The nine venues in the water village of water for one of our own.

1716
03:15:23,520 --> 03:15:31,520
And a venue for the water for jam. It's a great celebrations. Well, I think it's probably the biggest music festival in Racine County.

1717
03:15:31,520 --> 03:15:33,520
So thank you.

1718
03:15:33,520 --> 03:15:38,520
And it's profited, profited a, a deer near and dear.

1719
03:15:38,520 --> 03:15:42,520
Thing to me, the FFA and the alumni.

1720
03:15:42,520 --> 03:15:48,520
I can report, Mr Chairman, we had a follow up meeting yesterday with all the venues and.

1721
03:15:48,520 --> 03:15:53,520
The recipient of the FFA water for FFA.

1722
03:15:53,520 --> 03:15:57,520
And this year, water for jam fest raised.

1723
03:15:57,520 --> 03:16:00,520
Just over $50,000 for the organization.

1724
03:16:00,520 --> 03:16:01,520
So.

1725
03:16:01,520 --> 03:16:02,520
Goodness.

1726
03:16:02,520 --> 03:16:06,520
Thanks for mentioning the first one was for the library. And it was like $25,000.

1727
03:16:06,520 --> 03:16:08,520
Correct. Yes.

1728
03:16:08,520 --> 03:16:10,520
Yes.

1729
03:16:10,520 --> 03:16:13,520
Supervisor Coleman, did you have a go to.

1730
03:16:14,520 --> 03:16:15,520
Yes.

1731
03:16:15,520 --> 03:16:19,520
So I just wanted to make everybody aware that.

1732
03:16:19,520 --> 03:16:25,520
Bishop Kirby's funeral service will be this Saturday at grace church.

1733
03:16:25,520 --> 03:16:27,520
At 11 am.

1734
03:16:27,520 --> 03:16:33,520
So if we can just continue to keep the congregation in the community.

1735
03:16:33,520 --> 03:16:40,520
In the prayers and as we get as we prepare to lay Bishop Kirby to rest.

1736
03:16:40,520 --> 03:16:43,520
He was a very, very, very, very.

1737
03:16:43,520 --> 03:16:51,520
Very important pillar in our community and we've really lost a great one. So just wanted to acknowledge that.

1738
03:16:51,520 --> 03:16:53,520
Supervisor Osterman. Thank you, Mr Chairman.

1739
03:16:53,520 --> 03:16:59,520
As you know, the Wisconsin farmer led watershed protection program has become a national model.

1740
03:16:59,520 --> 03:17:03,520
And one of the most successful of those groups are right here in Racine County.

1741
03:17:03,520 --> 03:17:09,520
The scene county watershed protection group represented today by Brian Gunderson and Anthony Beck.

1742
03:17:09,520 --> 03:17:14,520
They were here because a very important thing happened with the.

1743
03:17:14,520 --> 03:17:24,520
Acceptance of the donation and the transfer of capital for the improvements at the Kruger side. And I think the watershed protection committee has a special gift that they would like to present.

1744
03:17:24,520 --> 03:17:28,520
And grab the county executive received that on behalf of the county.

1745
03:17:28,520 --> 03:17:30,520
Go ahead gentlemen.

1746
03:17:39,520 --> 03:17:46,520
So the donation is a $21,000 donation for the Kruger farm improvement site.

1747
03:18:10,520 --> 03:18:12,520
Thank you very much.

1748
03:18:12,520 --> 03:18:16,520
Sure. Any further supervisor wish off. Thank you.

1749
03:18:16,520 --> 03:18:23,520
Just wanted to mention that downtown Burlington is partially open. And if any supervisors would like to come down for a pint.

1750
03:18:23,520 --> 03:18:25,520
To check it out.

1751
03:18:25,520 --> 03:18:28,520
Love the host to you sometimes. So thank you very much.

1752
03:18:28,520 --> 03:18:30,520
Sue.

1753
03:18:30,520 --> 03:18:32,520
Any other.

1754
03:18:32,520 --> 03:18:33,520
Good.

1755
03:18:33,520 --> 03:18:36,520
We are adjourned. Thank you. Thank you.

1756
03:18:36,520 --> 03:18:38,520
Thank you.