WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:02.000 You 00:30.000 --> 00:32.000 You 01:00.000 --> 01:02.000 You 01:30.000 --> 01:32.000 You 02:00.000 --> 02:02.000 You 02:30.000 --> 02:32.000 You 02:32.000 --> 02:35.000 I am 02:35.000 --> 02:39.000 Mike 02:39.000 --> 02:43.000 Five 02:43.000 --> 02:45.000 Five 02:45.000 --> 02:52.000 I am 02:52.000 --> 02:55.000 This 02:55.000 --> 03:21.340 roll call 03:21.340 --> 03:42.260 There are 22 supervisors present, supervisor Carol is absent. 03:42.260 --> 03:48.540 Okay, I think for the first time we're going to have the youth in governance introduce 03:48.540 --> 03:49.540 themselves here. 03:50.540 --> 03:51.540 Start right on the end. 03:51.540 --> 03:52.540 Thank you. 03:52.540 --> 03:53.540 It's on here. 03:53.540 --> 03:54.540 There's a camera. 03:54.540 --> 03:55.540 Which one is it? 03:55.540 --> 03:56.540 Kyle Prince. 03:56.540 --> 03:57.540 Sam Sheen. 03:57.540 --> 03:58.540 Bruno Gonzalez. 03:58.540 --> 03:59.540 Sweetie. 03:59.540 --> 04:00.540 Smirmy. 04:00.540 --> 04:01.540 Kenchakoda. 04:01.540 --> 04:02.540 Sean Hawkins. 04:02.540 --> 04:03.540 Thank you. 04:03.540 --> 04:04.540 And then we'll move on to. 04:05.540 --> 04:11.540 And then we'll move on to citizens comments. 04:11.540 --> 04:12.540 Okay. 04:12.540 --> 04:18.540 Any citizens comments, please state your name and address. 04:18.540 --> 04:19.540 Eric. 04:19.540 --> 04:20.540 Thank you. 04:20.540 --> 04:25.540 And then we'll move on to citizens comments. 04:25.540 --> 04:26.540 Okay. 04:26.540 --> 04:31.540 Any citizens comments, please state your name and address. 04:31.540 --> 04:40.820 Eric Meadows, 8320, 82nd Street, Pleasant Prairie. 04:40.820 --> 04:46.380 In 1774, the first Continental Congress, the delegates of the first Continental Congress 04:46.380 --> 04:52.060 began their first meeting by inviting Reverend Jacob Douche, an Anglican clergyman to give 04:52.060 --> 04:53.900 an opening prayer. 04:53.900 --> 04:57.780 Some delegates initially objected over denominational differences. 04:57.780 --> 05:01.620 Graham Adams, however, supported it saying he could hear a prayer from any pious and 05:01.620 --> 05:05.700 virtuous man who was a friend to the country. 05:05.700 --> 05:09.140 It was ultimately approved and the prayer was given. 05:09.140 --> 05:12.780 After the first meeting, John Adams wrote a letter to his wife Abigail, telling her it 05:12.780 --> 05:16.300 was a highly moving and unifying experience. 05:16.300 --> 05:20.100 That started a tradition of beginning each session with a prayer. 05:20.100 --> 05:25.820 When the first Congress under the current constitution convened in 1789, the practice 05:25.820 --> 05:32.300 was retained and has continued ever since under both Democrat and Republican majorities. 05:32.300 --> 05:37.500 When the territory of Wisconsin was formed in 1836, the Wisconsin Territory of Legislature 05:37.500 --> 05:40.580 followed suit and began all of their meetings with the prayer. 05:40.580 --> 05:45.780 When we became a state in 1848, the state legislator again continued this practice even 05:45.780 --> 05:49.980 though representatives differed in their religious beliefs. 05:49.980 --> 05:53.820 Every one of you on this county board are here because you share the same goal. 05:53.820 --> 05:59.180 To make Kenosha County the best possible place to live, a safe and a prosperous place. 05:59.180 --> 06:02.900 If you did not have that goal, you would not be sitting here today. 06:02.900 --> 06:07.140 Each of us should seek every possible avenue to achieve that goal. 06:07.140 --> 06:11.820 That is why I submitted a proposed amendment to the Municipal Code of Kenosha County to 06:11.820 --> 06:18.060 follow the 250-year long-standing tradition of seeking divine guidance to help us achieve 06:18.060 --> 06:19.820 our shared goal. 06:19.820 --> 06:26.140 That proposal was presented to the Legislative Committee last month where it was voted down 06:26.140 --> 06:28.180 though not unanimously. 06:28.180 --> 06:32.420 The reasons given for voting against it were a little outrageous to me. 06:32.420 --> 06:36.740 I was told that there needs to be a separation of church and state, a statement that does 06:36.740 --> 06:39.940 not reside in either federal law nor state law. 06:39.940 --> 06:44.100 The very fact that prayer has been given before every legislative session on both the federal 06:44.100 --> 06:47.460 and state levels proved that notion incorrect. 06:47.460 --> 06:50.540 The first amendment of the United States Constitution prohibits the government from 06:50.540 --> 06:54.580 establishing a religion and it prohibits the federal government from interfering with 06:54.580 --> 06:59.180 its free exercise of religion, even in public spaces. 06:59.180 --> 07:02.980 I was told that there are a lot of legal cases that prove that prayer at a board meeting 07:02.980 --> 07:08.300 would not be a good idea, but the committee failed to actually produce was any legal case 07:08.300 --> 07:13.900 that stopped prayer from happening either on the federal level or the state level. 07:13.900 --> 07:16.580 That prayer continues to this day. 07:16.580 --> 07:20.460 I was told that the logistics of managing the process of inviting people to pray would 07:20.460 --> 07:22.340 be difficult. 07:22.340 --> 07:26.500 Just because it is hard does not mean that it is not worth doing, nothing worth doing 07:26.500 --> 07:28.020 is easy. 07:28.020 --> 07:32.220 Lastly, I was told that giving prayers would be seen as a divisive experience and a cause 07:32.220 --> 07:34.420 for people to offend others. 07:34.420 --> 07:37.660 I have far more faith in our community than that. 07:37.660 --> 07:42.060 Like the early delegates to the first continent of Congress, such a practice of seeking divine 07:42.060 --> 07:45.540 help would be seen as a unifying experience by the community. 07:45.540 --> 07:49.500 That would recognize what we are trying to achieve and they would thank us for it. 07:49.500 --> 07:54.220 It would be an amazing opportunity for us as board members to lead by example of showing 07:54.220 --> 08:00.180 unity despite differences in faith traditions and respecting each other's beliefs. 08:00.180 --> 08:04.100 Hearing others pray differently than I do or listening for prayer when you yourself don't 08:04.100 --> 08:08.140 pray is only offensive to you if you choose to let it be offensive. 08:08.140 --> 08:10.820 That is the choice we all make. 08:10.820 --> 08:15.420 Are we one nation under God, indivisible, as we pledge before every one of our meetings 08:15.420 --> 08:16.820 or are we not? 08:16.820 --> 08:21.220 Are we one county under God, indivisible, or are we not? 08:21.220 --> 08:24.500 Should this come before the board again in the future as I expect it will, I hope you 08:24.500 --> 08:28.860 will recognize that while it may be hard, it would be a net positive for our community 08:28.860 --> 08:33.820 as we use every avenue at our disposal to make Kenosha County the best possible place 08:33.820 --> 08:34.820 to live. 08:34.820 --> 08:36.820 Thank you. 08:37.820 --> 08:40.820 Are there any other citizens comments? 08:45.820 --> 08:51.820 Justine Hamlev-Jones, 8456 Eastridge Drive Pleasant Prairie. 08:51.820 --> 08:55.820 Our freedom to vote and to have our votes counted is under threat. 08:55.820 --> 09:01.420 The federal government is moving to interfere in how elections are run, even though states 09:01.420 --> 09:04.820 have administered their own elections since the founding. 09:04.820 --> 09:11.020 In April 27th, Reuters investigation, how Trump is moving to control U.S. elections, 09:11.020 --> 09:16.700 one stated at a time, documented federal authorities, the Department of Justice and the Department 09:16.700 --> 09:21.540 of Homeland Security, fanning out across the country. 09:21.540 --> 09:27.180 Seeking confidential records, pressing for access to voting equipment and re-examining 09:27.180 --> 09:34.420 voter fraud cases, the courts and bipartisan reviews have already rejected. 09:34.420 --> 09:39.780 Examples of federal interference already this year, baseless claims of stolen elections 09:39.780 --> 09:46.620 and investigations without charges into organizations that run voter registration drives, especially 09:46.620 --> 09:50.060 in black and immigrant communities. 09:50.060 --> 09:56.140 Justice Department officials seeking access to Dominion voting machines in Missouri demands 09:56.140 --> 10:00.540 for voter rolls and lists of voters flagged as likely non-citizens. 10:00.540 --> 10:07.540 The non-review by county clerks, the flag names were all eligible citizens. 10:07.540 --> 10:14.540 In March 31st, executive order directing the Postal Service to manage access to mail-in 10:14.540 --> 10:21.540 ballots and directing DHS to build a list of who may receive them, excluding others. 10:21.540 --> 10:26.540 Demands for 2020 voting records and jurisdictions across the country. 10:27.540 --> 10:32.540 In Wisconsin, the Wisconsin Election Commission oversees the election statewide. 10:32.540 --> 10:37.540 The local elections are overseen by county and municipal clerks. 10:37.540 --> 10:43.540 County Clerk Regi Olegora is ultimately responsible for ensuring the voter registration records 10:43.540 --> 10:45.540 are properly kept. 10:45.540 --> 10:47.540 Polling places are efficient. 10:47.540 --> 10:53.540 Pollits are counted correctly and promptly, and results are properly certified in Kenosha County. 10:53.540 --> 10:57.540 We are a part of the National Faith in Us initiative. 10:57.540 --> 11:02.540 And we would like Ms. Olegora to know that we support her. 11:02.540 --> 11:07.540 But as the people who elected her, we will hold her accountable for protecting the right 11:07.540 --> 11:16.540 of our legal voters to vote without interference or intimidation and to ensure that all votes are counted. 11:16.540 --> 11:22.540 We expect Ms. Olegora to pledge that she and the polling officers of Kenosha County 11:22.540 --> 11:28.540 who answered to her will, one, abide by the U.S. Constitution and state election laws. 11:28.540 --> 11:36.540 Two, refuse to comply with any unlawful executive orders or data requests that seek to restrict voting. 11:36.540 --> 11:43.540 And three, safely play their role to certify and seek the rightfully elected winners this November, 11:43.540 --> 11:45.540 regardless of the party. 11:46.540 --> 11:51.540 The right to vote is fundamental to all other rights. 11:51.540 --> 11:58.540 Our ability to make change at every level depends on the people getting to choose who represents us. 11:58.540 --> 12:04.540 This call to action will be shared widely with the media outlets in Kenosha County and B.N. 12:04.540 --> 12:08.540 Thank you for your time. 12:08.540 --> 12:11.540 Any more citizens comments? 12:11.540 --> 12:15.540 Are there any more citizens comments? 12:15.540 --> 12:17.540 Say no more citizens comments. 12:17.540 --> 12:24.540 Citizens, comments are now closed. 12:24.540 --> 12:26.540 Okay. 12:26.540 --> 12:34.540 No announcement I have would be just for those of you going to the 2026 Annual Conference. 12:34.540 --> 12:37.540 Some information should be on your desk, I believe. 12:37.540 --> 12:47.540 And if you have any questions, concerns or anything like that, I think Reggie is a good resource or contact the Conference Center itself. 12:47.540 --> 12:51.540 I believe that's it for me on that. 12:51.540 --> 12:59.540 Supervisor reports, any supervisors wishing to give a report? 12:59.540 --> 13:02.540 Supervisor Tarzan. 13:02.540 --> 13:04.540 I just want to let everybody know. 13:04.540 --> 13:07.540 Thank you Chairman. 13:07.540 --> 13:13.540 At the Kenosha Lakeshore Veterinary Clinic, there's a mural being painted. 13:13.540 --> 13:17.540 And the community is invited to paint that mural. 13:17.540 --> 13:20.540 This Saturday coming up all day. 13:20.540 --> 13:24.540 So please be nice to support that. 13:24.540 --> 13:25.540 Pass the word on. 13:25.540 --> 13:26.540 Let everybody know. 13:26.540 --> 13:27.540 Thank you. 13:27.540 --> 13:28.540 When is that Saturday? 13:28.540 --> 13:29.540 This Saturday. 13:29.540 --> 13:30.540 Okay. 13:30.540 --> 13:31.540 Thank you. 13:32.540 --> 13:35.540 Supervisor Gray. 13:35.540 --> 13:38.540 Thank you Mr. Chairman. 13:38.540 --> 13:47.540 As the liaison for the Pringle Nature Center, I just want to remind everybody that the fall fun fest is on September 26th, 11 to 3. 13:47.540 --> 13:52.540 And tomorrow afternoon, I believe it's 5.30. 13:52.540 --> 13:53.540 6 o'clock. 13:53.540 --> 13:54.540 6 o'clock. 13:54.540 --> 14:00.540 There was a ceremonial signing of the new agreement between the county and the Pringle Nature Center that extends that relationship 14:00.540 --> 14:04.540 for another 5 years. 14:04.540 --> 14:05.540 Okay. 14:05.540 --> 14:07.540 Thank you Supervisor Gray. 14:07.540 --> 14:09.540 Supervisor Gasky. 14:09.540 --> 14:11.540 Thank you Mr. Chair. 14:11.540 --> 14:19.540 As Chair of the Kenosha Joint Services Board, I just wanted to let the county board know that this coming Tuesday will be our monthly meeting. 14:19.540 --> 14:26.540 It's not our typical week that we meet and we'll also be discussing doing some initial discussions about our upcoming budget. 14:27.540 --> 14:32.540 So I just wanted to make you aware of that, if that's something that you're interested in, that we will be meeting this coming Tuesday. 14:32.540 --> 14:33.540 Thank you. 14:33.540 --> 14:35.540 Thank you Supervisor Gasky. 14:35.540 --> 14:38.540 Are there any more Supervisors reports? 14:38.540 --> 14:39.540 Okay. 14:39.540 --> 14:43.540 So you know more Supervisors reports on we move. 14:43.540 --> 14:48.540 I'd like to announce that Supervisor Carroll is in attendance. 14:49.540 --> 15:03.540 Old business ordinance second reading to required ordinance 11 from the legislative committee in ordinance to amend MCKC 2.13 3c related to standing committee assignments. 15:03.540 --> 15:06.540 This past unanimously at committee. 15:06.540 --> 15:09.540 Okay. 15:09.540 --> 15:12.540 Supervisor Morrissey. 15:12.540 --> 15:13.540 I move by Supervisor Morrissey. 15:13.540 --> 15:15.540 Seconded by Supervisor Decker. 15:15.540 --> 15:17.540 Supervisor Morrissey. 15:18.540 --> 15:19.540 Sorry. 15:19.540 --> 15:20.540 Hold on. 15:20.540 --> 15:21.540 Hold on. 15:21.540 --> 15:22.540 Hold on. 15:22.540 --> 15:23.540 Thank you. 15:23.540 --> 15:24.540 So go ahead. 15:24.540 --> 15:38.540 This ordinance clarifies that the executive committee is not to be considered one of the three standing committees that Supervisors can be appointed to and has stated it past unanimously at the legislative committee. 15:38.540 --> 15:42.540 I'd ask for your support. 15:42.540 --> 15:45.540 Thank you Supervisor Morrissey. 15:45.540 --> 15:47.540 Supervisor Noodle. 15:47.540 --> 15:49.540 Thank you. 15:49.540 --> 16:06.540 I'm a little bit confused why this ordinance even came out to be to take a vote on that to remove it. 16:06.540 --> 16:22.540 So could I ask the reason why this come out as ordinance to correct or to do something with the executive committee. 16:22.540 --> 16:27.540 If somebody can answer me that. 16:27.540 --> 16:31.540 I'm going to have court counsel first to comment on that please. 16:31.540 --> 16:35.540 Jeff. 16:35.540 --> 16:36.540 Yeah. 16:36.540 --> 16:39.540 Well as of right now. 16:39.540 --> 16:41.540 Mr. Chairman. 16:41.540 --> 16:42.540 Mr. Chairman. 16:42.540 --> 17:02.540 As of right now I would just like to know maybe from whoever the sponsor of this ordinance why that was done and then we can ask maybe we can ask the county. 17:03.540 --> 17:09.540 Okay. 17:09.540 --> 17:24.540 Since this resolution or our next was put forth by myself I'm handed a gavel over to Vice Chair Frankl because I will be commenting on this as the, I guess, presenter. 17:24.540 --> 17:35.540 But to answer Supervisor Noodle's questions in the past there have been oversights where there have been more supervisors. 17:35.540 --> 17:37.540 Let me take that back. 17:37.540 --> 17:41.540 We have carved out for the executive committee. 17:41.540 --> 17:51.540 The chairman of finance who's not supposed to sit on any other chairs to be able to sit on the executive committee. 17:51.540 --> 17:56.540 We don't have that carve out for any other chairman for any other committee. 17:56.540 --> 18:02.540 This simply is to put forth the fact that this isn't even a working committee. 18:02.540 --> 18:06.540 It's not even a committee I would consider standing committee. 18:06.540 --> 18:11.540 I think there's less than two or three meetings a year on average. 18:11.540 --> 18:13.540 Haven't even had one yet myself. 18:13.540 --> 18:24.540 But the three committee rule for standing committees that would make a chairman who's on three committees not eligible currently for the executive committee. 18:24.540 --> 18:28.540 And executive committee as I said, it's really a leadership. 18:28.540 --> 18:30.540 It is not a working committee. 18:30.540 --> 18:40.540 Executive committee isn't just composed, I won't say just, of just supervisors that's composed of the chairman. 18:40.540 --> 18:47.540 And therefore it should be considered an extension of their leadership responsibility rather than a fourth committee assignment. 18:47.540 --> 18:54.540 It's kind about equal treatment too because you don't want to make an exception for finance administration and ignore all the other standing committees. 18:54.540 --> 18:56.540 I think that's important as well. 18:56.540 --> 18:59.540 And it strengthens the executive committee. 18:59.540 --> 19:06.540 If we're asking the supervisor to lead committees, we should want the perspective when the chairs collectively discuss county-wide issues. 19:06.540 --> 19:08.540 Like I said, I've not had an executive committee yet. 19:08.540 --> 19:09.540 I haven't called one yet. 19:09.540 --> 19:12.540 Don't know if I'm even going to have one at least this year. 19:12.540 --> 19:13.540 I have no idea yet. 19:13.540 --> 19:28.540 But should it come to be that executive committee does get put forth the chairman, which currently is a supervisor decker, it would be a fourth committee. 19:29.540 --> 19:43.540 But she is chairman of judiciary law and therefore should be allowed to sit on an executive committee, which is not a real standing committee, but it's not a work committee for sure. 19:43.540 --> 19:47.540 I don't know if the court counsel has anything more to add to that. 19:47.540 --> 19:48.540 I'll yield. 19:48.540 --> 19:53.540 Mr. Chairman, I'm satisfied with your answer for now. 19:53.540 --> 19:58.540 But I'll have a question for a corporation counsel, maybe a little bit later. 19:58.540 --> 20:04.540 The reason, I don't know if you want to add something else or if I can go on since I have the floor. 20:04.540 --> 20:05.540 No, go ahead. 20:05.540 --> 20:06.540 Okay. 20:06.540 --> 20:10.540 Well, that's the reason why I am so confused. 20:10.540 --> 20:15.540 Because when I was chairman, I had the same problem. 20:15.540 --> 20:22.540 We had to work on this to make sure, in fact, that some of the people on this board were there when I was there. 20:22.540 --> 20:28.540 When I was chairman, then at one point, I made some changes with the chairman of some committees. 20:28.540 --> 20:30.540 And I had to reward that. 20:30.540 --> 20:33.540 And I talked to the attorney. 20:33.540 --> 20:40.540 Actually, my vice chair helped me out and setting up committees at that time and everything. 20:40.540 --> 20:43.540 And this year was a standing committee. 20:43.540 --> 20:50.540 Now, when I saw this, the first time that I saw this when you prepared the committee schedule, 20:50.540 --> 20:55.540 I asked why there is one supervisor for committees. 20:55.540 --> 21:07.540 The answer I got at was, well, the executive committee, it's not a standing committee. 21:07.540 --> 21:08.540 I said, what a minute. 21:08.540 --> 21:10.540 What do you mean it's not a standing committee? 21:10.540 --> 21:14.540 We talked about it before, whatever, it is a standing committee. 21:14.540 --> 21:19.540 We've got the rules and regulation where it shows what the standing committees are. 21:19.540 --> 21:21.540 And I said, so that's what it is. 21:21.540 --> 21:23.540 I said, so why didn't we do that? 21:23.540 --> 21:27.540 And the other answer was, well, that's what the chairman wanted to do it. 21:27.540 --> 21:30.540 So that's why I am. 21:30.540 --> 21:32.540 I don't know who you're talking about. 21:32.540 --> 21:35.540 I'll tell you this. 21:35.540 --> 21:37.540 I'll tell you this. 21:37.540 --> 21:41.540 I talked to Joe Cardamone, our court counsel. 21:41.540 --> 21:44.540 We both missed this when I was planning. 21:44.540 --> 21:46.540 We both missed it. 21:46.540 --> 21:48.540 And this is the only reason I do it. 21:48.540 --> 21:50.540 But if we carve out one. 21:50.540 --> 21:52.540 Okay, I understand. 21:52.540 --> 21:53.540 But let me finish with one. 21:53.540 --> 21:55.540 And then you can make your comments. 21:55.540 --> 21:58.540 You know, I let you make comments before when I hit the floor. 21:58.540 --> 21:59.540 So please. 21:59.540 --> 22:04.540 Now, going back to just on what you say, which I was going to bring it up later on. 22:04.540 --> 22:13.540 Now, at the committee level, that's what I believe you say that, or Joe say that both of you guys missed that. 22:13.540 --> 22:14.540 Okay. 22:14.540 --> 22:15.540 I don't believe it's true. 22:15.540 --> 22:17.540 I think it's a flat out lie. 22:17.540 --> 22:26.540 And the reason I'm saying that is because if you missed it and Joe missed it, when I called, when I called, 22:26.540 --> 22:31.540 then you guys should have revised that and corrected. 22:31.540 --> 22:33.540 Now, waiting for four months. 22:33.540 --> 22:40.540 And the only reason that you guys tried to correct that after that is because I brought in the resolution, 22:40.540 --> 22:45.540 ordinance, whatever, about changing the communities to seven people. 22:45.540 --> 22:48.540 And that's when you guys did it. 22:48.540 --> 22:52.540 Now, also at the committee level, okay, everything. 22:52.540 --> 22:57.540 Just like you tried to say before about the chairman or whatever. 22:57.540 --> 23:01.540 The board chairman, sorry, the committee chairman. 23:01.540 --> 23:03.540 There are three committees. 23:03.540 --> 23:05.540 This is standing committee. 23:05.540 --> 23:09.540 So that should count as standing committee. 23:09.540 --> 23:17.540 And the thing by saying, or while the chairman, the committee chairman should be on the executive committee, 23:17.540 --> 23:26.540 that's what they tried to go around to make believe that the only reason you're doing is otherwise the committee 23:26.540 --> 23:31.540 chairman cannot be on the executive committee. 23:31.540 --> 23:32.540 Well, that's not true. 23:32.540 --> 23:35.540 It can be on everything on the executive committee. 23:35.540 --> 23:45.540 In fact, on the rules, it says that's the only committee that the chairman doesn't have a choice out to set it up. 23:45.540 --> 23:52.540 Because that includes the board chairman, the board vice chair, and the chairman of the other committees. 23:52.540 --> 23:58.540 And in the event, the board vice chair is a chairman of the committee. 23:58.540 --> 24:04.540 Then the chairman of the board can appoint another supervisor to take his place. 24:04.540 --> 24:14.540 And it will be on executive committee and the board chairman cannot appoint somebody else. 24:14.540 --> 24:15.540 So that was not. 24:15.540 --> 24:22.540 I think all the discussion that was done in committee to say we're doing this because the board would need. 24:22.540 --> 24:27.540 We want the board chairman to be or the committee chairman to be there or whatever. 24:27.540 --> 24:35.540 That was just to distract the people to let them believe that this thing was done to keep that. 24:35.540 --> 24:39.540 That's as far as I'm concerned, that's a complete why. 24:39.540 --> 24:40.540 It's not even an excuse. 24:40.540 --> 24:42.540 It's a complete why. 24:43.540 --> 24:48.540 Let the board council speak here to say something and address this issue. 24:48.540 --> 24:51.540 I can ask when I wanted to speak. 24:51.540 --> 24:52.540 Let me finish what I'm saying. 24:52.540 --> 24:54.540 I'm going back and forth quite a bit here. 24:54.540 --> 24:56.540 I'm not going back and forth. 24:56.540 --> 24:58.540 I'm just making my statement now. 24:58.540 --> 25:00.540 I'm not done with my statement. 25:00.540 --> 25:02.540 What else do you need to say? 25:02.540 --> 25:04.540 Well, if you listen, you will hear it. 25:04.540 --> 25:05.540 Okay. 25:05.540 --> 25:06.540 All right, finish it up. 25:06.540 --> 25:07.540 Thank you. 25:08.540 --> 25:10.540 Give me a second. 25:10.540 --> 25:16.540 I got to tell you what I was going to say. 25:16.540 --> 25:24.540 Okay. 25:24.540 --> 25:28.540 I want to still have to. 25:28.540 --> 25:29.540 What are you from? 25:29.540 --> 25:30.540 I was still in the situation. 25:30.540 --> 25:31.540 Thank you. 25:31.540 --> 25:32.540 You have the floor. 25:33.540 --> 25:34.540 Thank you. 25:34.540 --> 25:37.540 As you know, you guys will have to bear with me because I'm not in this chair very often, 25:37.540 --> 25:41.540 but there's been some statements made about any type of dishonesty or falsehood. 25:41.540 --> 25:46.540 I can say with certainty that on behalf of the corporation council's office and the chair 25:46.540 --> 25:48.540 that that is not the case. 25:48.540 --> 25:52.540 I've spoken at length with Attorney Joe Cardamone about this situation and tried to get up 25:52.540 --> 25:53.540 to speed on it. 25:53.540 --> 26:00.540 What my understanding is, is that historically the executive committee has not been treated 26:00.540 --> 26:03.540 as a standing committee by the various chairs. 26:03.540 --> 26:06.540 If you look back at it, some chairs, like Supervisor Noodle, when you were the chair, 26:06.540 --> 26:11.540 you did use it quite frequently, but historically there was very little usage of the executive 26:11.540 --> 26:12.540 committee. 26:12.540 --> 26:20.540 I think in 2006, 2015, it was used four times in 2016, zero times in 2017, once 2018, 26:20.540 --> 26:21.540 zero. 26:21.540 --> 26:25.540 I can go through all the years, but there's very, very little usage with the executive 26:25.540 --> 26:26.540 committee. 26:27.540 --> 26:30.540 So what Attorney Cardamone has explained to me is when we did the rules revision, 26:30.540 --> 26:32.540 it really should have been modified at that time. 26:32.540 --> 26:35.540 We should have made it clear that it is not a standing committee. 26:35.540 --> 26:39.540 It's how the chair determines how he wants to use it, and it should have been addressed 26:39.540 --> 26:44.540 at that point when we did the full total rules modification. 26:44.540 --> 26:46.540 There's been no dishonesty or falsehoods. 26:46.540 --> 26:52.540 I believe that Attorney Cardamone has been very clear in his opinions that this amendment 26:52.540 --> 26:59.540 is in accordance with our past practice, and he's supportive of what the chair is trying 26:59.540 --> 27:00.540 to do. 27:00.540 --> 27:01.540 Okay. 27:01.540 --> 27:07.540 I passed the gavel back to him. 27:07.540 --> 27:09.540 Oh, I left the floor then? 27:09.540 --> 27:10.540 I left the him. 27:10.540 --> 27:13.540 Are you ready to finish up, or are you supposed to? 27:13.540 --> 27:15.540 I'm not trying to fill a bus or anything. 27:15.540 --> 27:17.540 I'm just trying to make my point. 27:17.540 --> 27:24.540 I can appreciate what cooperation, Jim, what you said it, but I want to make one thing 27:24.540 --> 27:25.540 clear. 27:25.540 --> 27:29.540 I'll never say that anybody did it in a dishonest way. 27:29.540 --> 27:32.540 I say that I don't believe that's the truth. 27:32.540 --> 27:34.540 Maybe I did not use the right word. 27:34.540 --> 27:40.540 I said to me what the excuse that they said it was the lie, because it was not the reason, 27:40.540 --> 27:45.540 because if he was for something that they missed it, when he was brought up, then they should 27:45.540 --> 27:47.540 have taken care of that time. 27:47.540 --> 27:48.540 Okay. 27:48.540 --> 27:54.540 And what they said it also, I say that at the committee level, the thing that we're doing, 27:54.540 --> 28:01.540 trying to make a believe that the only reason should have this, so all the committee chairs 28:01.540 --> 28:04.540 can be on the committee, which it's a fact. 28:04.540 --> 28:09.540 The committee is set up who's going to be there or not. 28:09.540 --> 28:11.540 So that's the point that was making. 28:11.540 --> 28:16.540 Now, if we don't believe we should not have the committee in there, well, before we changed, 28:16.540 --> 28:22.540 we should have taken vote to take it out and not making a standing committee. 28:22.540 --> 28:23.540 That is my point. 28:23.540 --> 28:30.540 If we want to do that, well, I guess it's fine, but to let it go after four months to bring 28:30.540 --> 28:32.540 it up, I don't think it's right. 28:32.540 --> 28:36.540 And the only thing I did not say, I mean, the saddest way or anything. 28:36.540 --> 28:39.540 I just say that I don't believe. 28:39.540 --> 28:40.540 I think it's a lie. 28:40.540 --> 28:42.540 I don't think it's a mistake. 28:42.540 --> 28:44.540 It's a lie. 28:44.540 --> 28:51.540 And for not having it, well, I'll do. 28:51.540 --> 28:52.540 Okay. 28:52.540 --> 28:56.540 So there's been a motion by Supervisor Robinson. 28:56.540 --> 28:58.540 Call the question. 28:58.540 --> 29:02.540 And seconded by Supervisor Meadows. 29:02.540 --> 29:06.540 It's just a roll call vote. 29:06.540 --> 29:07.540 I believe it is. 29:07.540 --> 29:11.540 It's a roll call vote. 29:11.540 --> 29:12.540 All right. 29:12.540 --> 29:17.540 All those want to call the question and get to the vote, I guess, is what you're looking 29:17.540 --> 29:18.540 to. 29:18.540 --> 29:19.540 No more discussion. 29:19.540 --> 29:20.540 Correct. 29:20.540 --> 29:21.540 Okay. 29:21.540 --> 29:22.540 All those in favor would vote. 29:22.540 --> 29:24.540 Oh, we got a way to get it up. 29:24.540 --> 29:25.540 Yeah. 29:26.540 --> 29:34.540 All those in favor of canceling discussion going to the vote, yes. 29:34.540 --> 29:36.540 And all those want to continue discussion. 29:36.540 --> 29:37.540 No. 29:47.540 --> 29:51.540 Call the question to end discussion. 29:51.540 --> 29:53.540 Yes, 18. 29:53.540 --> 29:56.540 No, five. 29:56.540 --> 29:57.540 Okay. 29:57.540 --> 30:03.540 So the question will be called and do I need to pass this over back to Johnson since. 30:03.540 --> 30:05.540 I think so. 30:05.540 --> 30:07.540 Not if there's no more debate. 30:07.540 --> 30:08.540 Okay. 30:08.540 --> 30:09.540 Okay. 30:09.540 --> 30:10.540 Okay. 30:10.540 --> 30:13.540 Then all those in favor of the ordinance. 30:13.540 --> 30:15.540 Do we need to read those? 30:15.540 --> 30:16.540 No. 30:16.540 --> 30:17.540 Okay. 30:17.540 --> 30:19.540 Two thirds. 30:20.540 --> 30:21.540 Roll call vote has been called. 30:21.540 --> 30:28.540 All those in favor of the resolution would vote yes and all those against would vote no. 30:28.540 --> 30:32.540 And that requires a two thirds vote to pass. 30:32.540 --> 30:40.540 So it is a change of the rules. 30:41.540 --> 30:44.540 All those in favor of the resolution. 30:44.540 --> 30:48.540 As soon as the resolution was stated. 30:48.540 --> 30:49.540 Yeah. 30:49.540 --> 30:50.540 Survise your grade. 30:50.540 --> 30:51.540 Okay. 30:51.540 --> 30:53.540 He wasn't an 11. 30:53.540 --> 31:01.540 An ordinance to amend and see KC chapter two point one three three C related to standing committee assignments. 31:01.540 --> 31:04.540 Do you want me to read the change? 31:04.540 --> 31:05.540 Okay. 31:05.540 --> 31:13.540 The Kenosha County Board of Supervisors does hereby ordain the municipal code of Kenosha County chapter two point one three three C. 31:13.540 --> 31:19.540 The county board rules of procedures hereby amended as follows three committee. 31:19.540 --> 31:27.540 Assignments see no supervisor shall serve on more than three standing committees for the purposes of this subsection. 31:27.540 --> 31:45.540 The executive committee shall not count as one of the three standing committees. 31:45.540 --> 31:53.540 Ordinance passes 22 yes and one no. 31:53.540 --> 32:08.540 Move business resolution when reading resolution 43 from the public works facilities committee a resolution for Kenosha County to adopt the 2026 2030 comprehensive outdoor recreation plan. 32:08.540 --> 32:13.540 This past unanimously at committee supervisor Belsky was excused. 32:13.540 --> 32:24.540 This was moved by supervisor meadow second by supervisor pool supervisor meadows move resolution 43. 32:24.540 --> 32:28.540 I'm sorry supervisor my supervisor my supervisor bowl supervisor metals. 32:28.540 --> 32:29.540 Thank you. 32:29.540 --> 32:30.540 Thank you chairman. 32:30.540 --> 32:35.540 This was a resolution to create a five year comprehensive plan for our parks division. 32:35.540 --> 32:40.540 This gives us some strategic planning to of how we're going to manage our parks over the next five years. 32:40.540 --> 32:46.540 Such a plan is is necessary to receive grant money from the state and other other people. 32:46.540 --> 32:50.540 So this past unanimously in committee and we ask for your support. 32:50.540 --> 32:57.540 If there are any questions we do have the parks director right more here to answer any questions. Thank you. 32:58.540 --> 32:59.540 Okay. 32:59.540 --> 33:03.540 Is there any questions or discussion on this ordinance? 33:03.540 --> 33:04.540 I was resolution. 33:04.540 --> 33:06.540 No, it is an ordinance. 33:06.540 --> 33:08.540 That's a resolution. 33:08.540 --> 33:09.540 I'm looking at the other one. 33:09.540 --> 33:10.540 Sorry. 33:10.540 --> 33:11.540 One month off. 33:15.540 --> 33:16.540 Okay. 33:16.540 --> 33:17.540 Seeing no discussion. 33:17.540 --> 33:19.540 Now those in favor for aye. 33:19.540 --> 33:20.540 Aye. 33:20.540 --> 33:21.540 Opposed. 33:21.540 --> 33:22.540 Motion carries. 33:23.540 --> 33:35.540 Ordinance first reading to required ordinance 12 from supervisor noodle in ordinance to amend mckc 2.13 3c related to standing committee assignments. 33:35.540 --> 33:45.540 Communications 35 communication from the human services committee a resolution to modify commotion counties division of health's budget to purchase new equipment. 33:45.540 --> 33:49.540 Refer to human services and the finance administration committee. 33:50.540 --> 34:03.540 36 a communication from supervisor Colonia and supervisor Geertzen a resolution supporting the funding of UW park side and the universities of Wisconsin workforce and innovation initiatives. 34:03.540 --> 34:06.540 Refer to legislative and human services committee. 34:06.540 --> 34:11.540 The approval of the August 18th 2026 minutes by supervisor Geertzen. 34:12.540 --> 34:14.540 Supervisor Geertzen. 34:14.540 --> 34:15.540 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 34:15.540 --> 34:18.540 I move approval of the August 18th minutes. 34:18.540 --> 34:19.540 So a second. 34:19.540 --> 34:23.540 Second by supervisor Robinson. 34:23.540 --> 34:25.540 Any discussion? 34:25.540 --> 34:27.540 All those in favor vote aye. 34:27.540 --> 34:28.540 Aye. 34:28.540 --> 34:29.540 Opposed. 34:29.540 --> 34:30.540 Motion carries. 34:31.540 --> 34:32.540 Seconded. 34:32.540 --> 34:34.540 Turned by a supervisor.