WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:08.240 Item 13 review 26-1 and 26-2 utility extension projects to provide sewer and water service 00:08.240 --> 00:11.560 to Canellsville in the town of Port Washington. 00:11.560 --> 00:12.560 Roger. 00:12.560 --> 00:20.480 All right, well, I'll turn this over to Aaron from Kapoor, but essentially he's going to 00:20.480 --> 00:28.200 give us an overview of our next sewer and water project that we have coming in and sort 00:28.200 --> 00:33.480 of our impacts that's going to create with the area. 00:33.480 --> 00:36.320 Good evening, everybody. 00:36.320 --> 00:44.560 We'll bring this up there. 00:44.560 --> 00:52.320 Thanks, Roger. 00:52.320 --> 00:54.320 Again, I'm Aaron Groh with Kapoor and Associates. 00:54.320 --> 00:58.840 We've been here a few times talking in front of the group here tonight, so thanks for 00:58.840 --> 01:00.560 having me. 01:00.560 --> 01:07.680 So right now we are complete with our design plans for the next phase to extend utilities 01:07.680 --> 01:14.680 to the north for Canellsville and also to serve the vantage site. 01:14.680 --> 01:19.600 Those two projects are 26-1 and 26-2. 01:19.600 --> 01:28.360 Two of the key parts of this are that we still are in discussions with PSC for approval. 01:28.360 --> 01:34.560 Water main PSC governs water main and specifically if there is water main that is at least three 01:34.560 --> 01:39.440 miles of length or longer, which this project has. 01:39.440 --> 01:44.680 So we are still in the process of we've had a couple of meetings with PSC. 01:44.680 --> 01:49.960 We've had several clarifications, questions and answers going back and forth with them. 01:49.960 --> 01:55.360 And we have not gotten all the answers that we need to verify that we can move forward 01:55.360 --> 01:59.840 with this project and submit to PSC accordingly. 01:59.840 --> 02:08.560 So that is one item that is going to drive the schedule for these projects. 02:08.560 --> 02:17.240 So that being said, this is a very similar presentation to what I provided before a month 02:17.240 --> 02:18.400 or two ago. 02:18.400 --> 02:23.480 So this first project is 26-1, there is 10,000 feet of water main and 5,000 feet of sanitary 02:23.480 --> 02:24.480 sewer. 02:24.480 --> 02:31.120 It's a long, highland drive, main branch road, and then on Conantrunk Highway KW up to where 02:31.120 --> 02:35.480 the boat storage facility is. 02:35.480 --> 02:39.960 Also will provide sanitary and water laterals to Canalesville per the agreement between 02:39.960 --> 02:43.000 the city and the town. 02:43.000 --> 02:49.120 And we are estimating at just under $8 million for the construction costs and you add 20% 02:49.120 --> 02:52.800 engineering contingencies in there, it brings it up to about 9.4. 02:52.800 --> 03:00.200 Our schedule still is hoping to shoot for late June or early July with construction considering 03:00.200 --> 03:04.520 in late July or early August. 03:04.520 --> 03:10.520 As I just mentioned before with these projects, PSC permitting is still an item that is driving 03:10.520 --> 03:17.400 the schedule and until we can identify the permit process with PSC, we are in a holding 03:17.400 --> 03:21.240 pattern until we get that approval. 03:21.240 --> 03:27.520 Travel control detours routes is another item as far as how we broke this project into 03:27.520 --> 03:29.000 different phases. 03:29.000 --> 03:39.960 And then we also want to identify attractive sized projects to bring a lot of bidders to 03:39.960 --> 03:44.360 these two jobs, 26.1 and 26.2. 03:44.360 --> 03:48.320 We don't want to put out such a large project that you only have two or three bidders. 03:48.320 --> 03:53.800 We want to have normal size contracts that we think we can attract 10 or 15 different 03:53.800 --> 03:57.720 contractors that can put out really competitive prices. 03:57.720 --> 04:00.920 So 26.2, very similar. 04:00.920 --> 04:03.240 So this is 11,000 feet of water main. 04:03.240 --> 04:09.520 It's only water main and it's on KW Lake Drive from the storage facility north to Lake 04:09.520 --> 04:17.000 Drive and then east to the main entrance to the vantage project. 04:17.000 --> 04:26.040 Also add water main services along KW and to other other parcels that are within the town. 04:26.040 --> 04:29.200 This will provide secondary fee to redundancy. 04:29.200 --> 04:34.960 So what Roger was just speaking about before redundancy is a key component to engineering. 04:34.960 --> 04:38.840 And this is one of the main reasons why we want to provide the water to the north side 04:38.840 --> 04:44.440 of the project site for redundancy reasons. 04:44.440 --> 04:48.320 This estimated cost is $5 billion for construction. 04:48.320 --> 04:55.000 But if you add engineering contingencies, about 20% brings us up to just over $6 million. 04:55.000 --> 05:02.120 This schedule similar June or early July to bid out and advertise with construction. 05:02.120 --> 05:10.640 This section is just water main and this is completely driven by the schedule of PSC. 05:10.640 --> 05:15.440 So instead of maybe starting this in July or August, we don't expect this project to 05:15.440 --> 05:19.800 start until at least October. 05:19.800 --> 05:22.560 Water main we would expect to be installed by directional drilling. 05:22.560 --> 05:26.800 The PSC permits as I mentioned before. 05:26.800 --> 05:30.800 The reason why we want to add directional drilling as a construction method is because 05:30.800 --> 05:36.800 it's quicker and it will also reduce the impacts to traffic in the businesses and the properties 05:36.800 --> 05:38.720 that are along KW. 05:38.720 --> 05:44.720 It's smaller work zones and just be easier for traffic to get around while they're working 05:44.720 --> 05:49.320 within KW. 05:49.320 --> 05:59.280 So this is a layout of proposed detours and work zones in the first phase of 26-1. 05:59.280 --> 06:05.880 So this is when we start up, we expect to start up in the intersection of H and Minker 06:05.880 --> 06:06.880 Anch Road. 06:06.880 --> 06:14.200 We'll have to shift traffic onto counter-chunk highway H and just southbound lanes only. 06:14.200 --> 06:15.800 So only in one direction. 06:15.800 --> 06:22.200 A detour will also go on to counter-chunk B to H and also on A to LL. 06:22.200 --> 06:25.720 We've met with the county city staff and Kapoor. 06:25.720 --> 06:29.520 We met with the county to make sure that they were in agreement with these routes and these 06:29.520 --> 06:33.440 routes they concurred with us to do this. 06:33.440 --> 06:39.160 One of the things that we discussed as well, could we maybe have a detour route on B up 06:39.160 --> 06:45.600 to A on the left side instead of having the yellow route that we show which is on 06:45.600 --> 06:48.640 LL and counter-chunk highway A. 06:48.640 --> 06:54.000 We have to have the detour on LL and A for numerous phases and therefore we felt just 06:54.000 --> 06:59.160 from a consistency standpoint for those that are driving out here, if we change the detours 06:59.160 --> 07:02.720 back and forth and back and forth, it's going to get confusing. 07:02.720 --> 07:06.560 So even though maybe it'll be a little bit longer detour route, we just feel it's better 07:06.560 --> 07:14.720 for those that live in the area so it's a consistent detour route. 07:14.720 --> 07:19.480 The roads that are under construction will remain open to local traffic only, so that's 07:19.480 --> 07:20.480 key. 07:20.480 --> 07:27.120 So we still can get on the construction routes when we're working on Highland or Mink Ranch 07:27.120 --> 07:29.600 or KW. 07:29.600 --> 07:35.400 And then on this first little section here on Mink Ranch and I-43 crossing, we'll also 07:35.400 --> 07:44.520 be working on extending our concrete and asphalt pavement that's going to be coordinated with 07:44.520 --> 07:45.520 the next phase. 07:45.520 --> 07:49.720 You can go to the next sheet, please, thank you. 07:49.720 --> 07:56.760 So this is on Highland Drive, so we will be connecting to where we ended the current construction 07:56.760 --> 08:02.360 project that just finished, which is just on Highland Drive, just on the north side 08:02.360 --> 08:05.320 of the bridge on Highland Lane. 08:05.320 --> 08:11.320 So we'll connect to that point and then extend to Kinda Trunk Highway H and the intersection 08:11.320 --> 08:14.320 of KW. 08:14.320 --> 08:22.040 We'll stop just short of KW and H to allow that section of road to remain open to traffic. 08:22.040 --> 08:28.360 We also want to make sure with the phasing of this that we are cognizant of the garbage 08:28.360 --> 08:34.960 drop-off for the town and then also for the local restaurant that's right at this intersection. 08:34.960 --> 08:40.600 So that's one of the reasons why we wanted to stay short of KW and H to be able to allow 08:40.600 --> 08:45.000 traffic to get in and out of those areas during construction. 08:45.000 --> 08:51.160 And then this detour would be route through County Trunk Highway LL and A. 08:51.160 --> 08:55.400 Next phase, so this is the third and final phase for 26-1. 08:55.400 --> 09:02.520 So this is extending up KW and also a little bit of an extension on County Trunk Highway 09:02.520 --> 09:09.240 H. So we're completing everything else that's within that, within the project scope, extending 09:09.240 --> 09:12.160 up to the boat storage facility. 09:12.160 --> 09:18.840 And then we also will extend several hundred feet up County Trunk Highway H this season. 09:18.840 --> 09:24.040 So then the following season, if you remember our five-year outlook, County Trunk Highway 09:24.040 --> 09:30.920 H, H is anticipated to be constructed in 2028 and we want to be completely out of that busy 09:30.920 --> 09:35.920 intersection with County Trunk H and County Trunk KW. 09:35.920 --> 09:38.400 We don't want to be in that intersection two years in a row. 09:38.400 --> 09:44.720 So we plan extending about two or three hundred feet north into H, get outside of the concrete 09:44.720 --> 09:49.600 pavement, the concrete pavement where that ends is where we end our project. 09:49.600 --> 09:54.320 The northbound lanes of County Trunk Highway H would be closed during this process. 09:54.320 --> 10:00.560 And so anybody that's coming from the city proper, running up, will be asked to detour 10:00.560 --> 10:07.360 on County Trunk Highway LL to A. Again, the roads under construction remain open to local 10:07.360 --> 10:12.720 traffic and then we also want to make sure that we're cognizant of the restaurant that's 10:12.720 --> 10:18.560 on the intersection for this third phase of 26-1. 10:18.560 --> 10:21.920 Lastly, it's 26-2. 10:21.920 --> 10:27.880 So this is just the water main only in County Trunk Highway KW and on Lake Drive. 10:27.880 --> 10:34.320 The detour is on LL and A to the right and the yellow that you see. 10:34.320 --> 10:41.600 As I noted before, we expect to have this directionally drilled and then wherever there's hydrants, 10:41.600 --> 10:45.640 which is about every 600 feet, there'll be an open cut within the road. 10:45.640 --> 10:50.920 So we expect to have the majority of the road to remain as is. 10:50.920 --> 10:55.520 As they install the water main, they'll cut open a location for where the hydrant is and 10:55.520 --> 10:56.960 then continue on. 10:56.960 --> 11:03.040 So we're trying to make sure that we minimize the amount of impacts to the residents and 11:03.040 --> 11:07.640 the business owners along KW. 11:07.640 --> 11:16.360 We're also specifying that when one project is going on 26-1, we can't be working in 11:16.360 --> 11:18.440 KW in 26-2. 11:18.440 --> 11:23.680 So our specifications are written in such a way that one job needs to finish before the 11:23.680 --> 11:24.680 other one starts. 11:24.680 --> 11:28.400 So we don't have two contractors working on KW at the same time. 11:28.400 --> 11:32.840 Again, we're trying to be as cognizant as we can to the business owners and the residents 11:32.840 --> 11:33.840 along KW. 11:34.840 --> 11:36.080 Just a question. 11:36.080 --> 11:39.640 Wouldn't it be preferable, though, to have them both working simultaneously so we can 11:39.640 --> 11:44.040 have a shorter closure on KW? 11:44.040 --> 11:52.040 Well, part of that also is driven by the PSC approval, which we expect that we won't 11:52.040 --> 11:58.480 get on this leg on 26-2, and therefore, this section likely won't start up until October. 11:58.480 --> 12:02.280 So part of that has to do with that plays a role into this, too. 12:02.360 --> 12:07.960 Yeah, I hate to see us close it, open it for a week, and then close it again. 12:07.960 --> 12:08.960 Understood. 12:08.960 --> 12:09.960 Yes. 12:09.960 --> 12:12.800 We'll be very cognizant of working with both continents, assuming that we have two different 12:12.800 --> 12:15.240 contractors that win these awards. 12:15.240 --> 12:20.120 We'll work with them to try and make sure that we minimize those changes. 12:20.120 --> 12:26.800 There's some things that you can't avoid, but point taken. 12:26.840 --> 12:35.280 Also, we identified that during warm weather, we'll use asphalt patching, and if it gets 12:35.280 --> 12:40.200 to cold weather, we're going to require them to use concrete patching. 12:40.200 --> 12:47.840 One other thing is that we're specifying to minimize potential risk or overruns to the 12:47.840 --> 12:48.840 city. 12:48.840 --> 12:52.320 We're anticipating that all this work would occur. 12:52.800 --> 13:02.640 26-1 would occur yet all in the 26, year of 26, 26-2 may trickle into the year 2027. 13:02.640 --> 13:09.160 If that's the case, what our specifications are saying is that contractor, we don't expect 13:09.160 --> 13:15.640 for them to work from the timeframe of December 15th to March 15th. 13:15.640 --> 13:19.880 And if they so choose, they can do so at their own risk and at no additional cost to 13:19.880 --> 13:20.880 the city. 13:20.880 --> 13:24.720 Therefore, no change orders for cold weather applications or things of that nature. 13:24.720 --> 13:30.880 So we expect them no work from December to March, however, we would allow them if they 13:30.880 --> 13:36.520 wanted to do it, again, at no additional cost to the city. 13:36.520 --> 13:38.600 And I think that is the final sheet. 13:38.600 --> 13:39.600 Any questions? 13:39.600 --> 13:47.480 Yeah, on the detour running on LL as opposed to B. Do we have any concern about, especially 13:47.480 --> 13:51.880 when Lake and LL will be closed for that project, that all of the construction traffic 13:51.880 --> 13:56.680 is going to also be accessing the site from East off of LL? 13:56.680 --> 13:57.680 Yes. 13:57.680 --> 14:03.640 Would it in that case be better to have that detour on B so that it is not sharing the 14:03.640 --> 14:06.200 roads with all the construction traffic? 14:06.200 --> 14:09.920 Other than, of course, when you get up to A, you're going to have an intersection with 14:09.920 --> 14:10.920 construction traffic. 14:10.920 --> 14:13.520 There are multiple reasons why we chose that. 14:13.520 --> 14:19.840 We also were looking at, you know, there's a tight angle on B and H as well. 14:19.840 --> 14:25.800 And if you if you ran a ran the detour with some of these tight angles, we also a consideration 14:25.800 --> 14:33.600 of when the county part of this work is county work where the detours need to be done through 14:33.600 --> 14:34.840 county roads, right? 14:34.840 --> 14:39.640 So you will a road might be a good application to have a detour, but we really can't if we 14:39.640 --> 14:43.240 have some of the county projects going on where the county is going to be paving on 14:43.240 --> 14:44.240 some of this. 14:44.240 --> 14:47.040 So those all played into it. 14:47.040 --> 14:55.200 We also coordinated these with the vantage design team, specifically Graf and they're 14:55.200 --> 15:00.320 the ones that I looked at improving all the intersections and coordinating the traffic 15:00.320 --> 15:04.920 signals, the temporary traffic signals that are planned for the intersection with I-43. 15:04.920 --> 15:10.040 And we bounced all these off of them and made sure that it worked with their plans. 15:10.040 --> 15:13.360 And there were they felt that this would work as well. 15:13.360 --> 15:18.160 So we don't need to take any extraordinary measures at lake in L.L. just by having all 15:18.160 --> 15:21.280 the traffic piling up there during construction. 15:21.280 --> 15:25.960 Other than right now where we have sheriff's deputies out directing traffic twice a day. 15:25.960 --> 15:33.640 Well part of the so, yes, so the there will be traffic alleviated because right now Highland 15:33.640 --> 15:40.320 Drive does not have any access to construction traffic as we're completing that work. 15:40.320 --> 15:43.280 We're about a week to two weeks from that all being complete. 15:43.280 --> 15:48.600 And at that point in time, the vantage team will open the southern entrance off of Highland 15:48.600 --> 15:50.400 Drive. 15:50.400 --> 15:55.160 So about half the trucks and equipment that are coming now to lake. 15:55.160 --> 15:58.600 Half of them now will be coming up the south side on Highland Drive. 15:58.600 --> 16:04.840 So we'll alleviate a lot of the pressure that you have at both K.W. and L.L. at Lake 16:04.840 --> 16:05.840 Drive. 16:05.840 --> 16:09.760 So that's probably going to be the biggest impact of being able to open up the access 16:09.760 --> 16:11.720 point off of Highland Drive. 16:11.720 --> 16:12.720 All right. 16:12.720 --> 16:13.720 Any other questions? 16:13.720 --> 16:14.720 Yes. 16:14.720 --> 16:17.360 Have you spoken to Johnson Bus Company? 16:17.360 --> 16:20.520 Are we concerned about school kids and? 16:20.520 --> 16:21.520 Yes. 16:21.520 --> 16:26.160 So we've spoken with them and we also have it written on to our specifications that 16:26.160 --> 16:33.280 we will be coordinating with them and we will discuss the contractor will be required 16:33.280 --> 16:38.520 to meet with Johnson Bus once we have a preliminary schedule put together and we can talk with 16:38.520 --> 16:41.960 them as far as what the best routes are is that they need to go north or if they need 16:41.960 --> 16:43.120 to go south. 16:43.120 --> 16:47.480 So yes, that is written into our contract specifically that the contractor has to meet 16:47.480 --> 16:55.360 with Johnson Bus to make sure that they are able to proceed business-wise as they should. 16:55.360 --> 16:56.360 Yes. 16:56.360 --> 16:58.840 So we do want to hear stories about how they are in our late school. 16:58.840 --> 16:59.840 Yes. 16:59.840 --> 17:00.840 We understood. 17:00.840 --> 17:01.840 Thank you. 17:01.840 --> 17:09.720 Who is primarily responsible for sharing us out to the community? 17:09.720 --> 17:12.120 Because you know, most people aren't going to watch public works meetings. 17:12.120 --> 17:16.360 So if it's because like there's this construction updates website on the Vantage D.C. 17:16.360 --> 17:20.640 Lighthouse campus, do you guys have anything to do with that or is that Vantage themselves 17:21.640 --> 17:25.360 because the last update on here was from April. 17:25.360 --> 17:27.520 So Vantage has their own updates. 17:27.520 --> 17:30.800 I don't know Roger if you have any more to add to that. 17:30.800 --> 17:32.800 They're doing their own updates. 17:32.800 --> 17:34.880 Vantage has their own updates. 17:34.880 --> 17:43.400 We are planning on doing a PIM meeting with the town public information meeting specifically 17:43.400 --> 17:52.840 Johnson Bus, Pierce Restaurant, Great Lakes Bolt, Allen Edmond's got an operation in 17:52.840 --> 17:53.840 there. 17:53.840 --> 17:59.920 So we could kind of have the same meeting discussion that we're having here. 17:59.920 --> 18:00.920 Yes. 18:00.920 --> 18:01.920 And I do apologize. 18:01.920 --> 18:05.080 That was one of the key points I wanted to mention today and I forgot. 18:05.080 --> 18:10.760 We are planning on scheduling a PIM prior to any sort of road work construction. 18:11.760 --> 18:15.920 I just think if they could keep this construction updates website a little bit more updated 18:15.920 --> 18:19.000 with so people know what to expect ahead of time would be. 18:19.000 --> 18:20.280 So we can share. 18:20.280 --> 18:24.920 I can certainly share this information with Vantage and ask for them to add it to their 18:24.920 --> 18:25.920 site. 18:25.920 --> 18:30.280 That would be I would assume that they would be fine with doing that. 18:30.280 --> 18:31.280 Thank you. 18:31.280 --> 18:39.280 This is probably more of a question for Robin Roger, but since the project is going to 18:39.280 --> 18:45.520 be putting in curb stops for future water connections, are we doing any marketing at 18:45.520 --> 18:50.800 all to those property owners that they are going to be aware that they can connect to 18:50.800 --> 18:53.040 city water? 18:53.040 --> 18:57.240 Because you know, we probably don't want it happening simultaneously with the project, 18:57.240 --> 18:59.880 but the curb stop will be there be easy for them to continue. 18:59.880 --> 19:05.160 Just want to make sure that they're all aware so that they can start making those connections 19:05.160 --> 19:13.920 and we can produce a little bit of water revenue off of those areas. 19:13.920 --> 19:18.280 Well, Roger can add we haven't done it, but I know the town chairman has gone door to 19:18.280 --> 19:20.920 court to inform everyone. 19:20.920 --> 19:22.480 All right. 19:22.480 --> 19:23.480 Good. 19:23.480 --> 19:25.560 All right. 19:25.560 --> 19:27.600 Any other comments or questions? 19:27.600 --> 19:29.200 All right. 19:29.200 --> 19:30.200 Thank you. 19:30.200 --> 19:30.560 Thank you.