1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,760 for Washington Planning Commission meeting for September 7th, 2026. 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:11,040 Roll call, all commissioners are present. Mr. Ehrlich is excused if he doesn't come, 3 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:18,160 and if he's late, he's late. So with that, I need a motion or conversation around the previous 4 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:25,280 meetings minutes. There's a motion to approve. Is there a second? Seconded. Any questions or 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,560 concerns on the motion? Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? 6 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,360 Okay, motion carries. The next item on the agenda is public comments and appearances. 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,200 Please remember, as community members, you have the three minutes to speak and a maximum of 30 8 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:45,440 minutes and comments need to be relevant to agendas on the Planning Commission. Any public 9 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:52,640 comments? Any public comments? Any public comments? All right, seeing none, that moves us into 10 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:57,600 agenda item number four, which is use interpretation, consideration, and possible action on a use 11 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:05,600 determination for a proposed intergenerational daycare facility located at 104 West Main Street. 12 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,080 Zeal Investment Partners is the applicant. The subject for this evening is that the 13 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:16,080 Planning Commission is being asked to reconsider the original proposal and motions from the last 14 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,480 meeting together and potentially take action on that. The Planning Commission is being asked to 15 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:25,040 reconsider a previous determination that a proposed intergenerational daycare facility is 16 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,280 permissible in the B4 zoning district as a community service use and private club. 17 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,920 And the recommendation is that the Planning Commission move to reconsider the original motion 18 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:38,720 and then deny the original motion to classify the proposed use, a community service establishment 19 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:44,960 as a private larger club. Mr. Harris. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So from at the last meeting, 20 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:51,600 the Planning Commission took up this matter of a intergenerational daycare facility. 21 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:57,680 And the specific issue was that under the zoning code, there is an ability by the Planning Commission 22 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:04,240 in the case of a question as a classification of a use. It shall be submitted to the Planning 23 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:12,080 Commission for determination. In this case, it was determined that a community service use 24 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:20,000 private lodge or club is a for-profit motive. And therefore, it did not explicitly meet the 25 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:29,600 definition of a community service or a public private lodge or club. And therefore, the August 26 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:36,640 interpretation went beyond the parameters of this interpretation. So we are here tonight to 27 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:47,680 take up this consideration again. So this is kind of a two-part step here. So to reconsider that 28 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:55,360 August motion, the Planning Commission shall make a motion to reconsider that motion 29 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:02,800 and classify the, and that motion was to classify the proposed use as a private club. 30 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:10,000 So this is to reconsider that motion. This is an action item, and there should be a motion to 31 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:16,560 reconsider and then seconded and then a vote by the Commission. And so if that vote moves forward, 32 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:24,800 then we go back to that original question of, is this a community service use or private club? 33 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:33,280 And the action is taken again, repeating that August step. So I hope I clarify that for you. 34 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:37,440 We do have the City Attorney, if you have any specific or detailed questions. 35 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:41,760 But with that, I will hand it over to the Commission. 36 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:46,800 Yeah. So with that then, following parliamentary procedures, the first vote would be, 37 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,480 so imagine a piece of paper, we're moving this back onto the table for reconsideration 38 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:58,080 after, if we decide to do that, when it comes back up, the recommendation for Mr. Harris is to 39 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:04,320 make the motion on the original motion and then to ensure that we are following both the law 40 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:10,720 and our own ordinances, then we would need to vote that down. Okay. So I can't tell you how to 41 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:17,760 vote, but the recommendation is we approve the reconsideration, we then remake the motion, 42 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:22,240 and then that we vote down that motion. So I'm going to start the this off with, 43 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,680 I'm going to move to reconsider the August 26, 2026 action to classify the use of a community 44 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:32,240 service establishment as a private, larger club. So someone willing to second that motion. 45 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:40,400 Seconded, Mr. Reyer or Nate. Okay. Mr. Herlank. Any questions or concerns on that motion? 46 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:45,200 All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? 47 00:04:45,840 --> 00:04:50,160 Okay. That brings back to the floor of the original motion and the original motion is to 48 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:56,080 classify the proposed use of a community service establishment as a private, larger club and that 49 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:03,600 original motion then to be brought back to the floor for consideration and the recommendation 50 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:10,560 again from staff is to vote down that motion. So I'm going to make the motion to bring back 51 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:15,280 to the floor the classification of the proposed use as a community service establishment as a 52 00:05:15,280 --> 00:05:20,320 private club or lodge and the original motion is now on the floor. Is there a second? 53 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:26,160 Second. There's a second on that motion. All right. Any questions or concerns on the motion? 54 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:33,520 All right. So all in favor to classify the proposed use of a community service 55 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:41,040 attachment or private lodge signify by saying aye. Opposed? Nay. The motion fails. 56 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:48,320 Okay. Thank you very much and we'll start over and you have a new pathway. Okay. All right. 57 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,440 That brings us to the second agenda item. Thank you for everyone for following that 58 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:56,240 parliamentary procedure piece. Those of us model United Nations veterans. No, that was fun. 59 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Consideration and possible action on a proposed piano retail store to be located at 700 North 60 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,440 Wisconsin Street. Ross line Weber is the applicant. The consideration and possible action on this 61 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:13,040 is to ask the is asking for the plan commission to review and approve the proposed use for the 62 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:21,200 subject property. The staff recommendation on this is to approve is to approve the recommendation 63 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:28,880 as is Mr Harris. Okay. So I know all of you are familiar with the Kissinger building at 700 64 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:35,840 North Wisconsin. And as you know, that was recently purchased by a local property owner. 65 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:43,520 And he has been doing some upgrades to the building, both internal and external prior to 66 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:50,720 seeking commercial space tenants for that ground floor. The building is a bit of an oddity zoning 67 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:57,920 wise. It is a base zoning of residential, but it has a there aren't many properties with this 68 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:03,760 overlay, but it's an office and special service district commercial overlay allowing for 69 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:15,200 retail and other commercial uses in this property. And specifically, it is a specialized retail 70 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:20,960 is specifically in the zoning code, which this would fall under. And it is, you know, it gives 71 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:27,920 examples such as appliances, obviously, flowers, gift shops. And I think as also we would be 72 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:35,840 approving this retail shop for Heartland pianos. There has been there's no changes to the 73 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:44,320 exterior as part of this application. And there is no other changes to the building or site. 74 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:51,680 The brief blurb on the hours of operation are in your packet, but the applicant is here. 75 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:59,120 If you have any specific questions or curious questions for their business, otherwise staff 76 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:07,760 recommends to approve. Any questions or wonderings? Roger? I think it's a great use of the site. 77 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:13,520 I move to approve. There's a motion to approve. Is there a second? There's a second. Any questions 78 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:19,440 or concerns on the motion? All right, seeing none. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. 79 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:28,320 Opposed? Okay. All right. How awesome for us? This will be very cool. Look forward to having a 80 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:34,240 piano man out on the corner there every day taking requests. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's your job. 81 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:38,320 Yeah, excellent. Well, we'll get you a cabaret license. You can serve beer. It'll be awesome. 82 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:45,520 All right. So that takes us to the last gen item, a pre-concept plan presentation and discussion 83 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:51,440 under proposed single-family subdivision containing approximately 107 lots located on 61 acres of land 84 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:57,280 on the south side of East Soc Road, east of I-43 and west of the Ozaki Inner Urban Trail in the 85 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:03,840 town of Grafton. Troy Harchas, R.A. Smith, is the applicant. The project is being done by the local 86 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:10,080 developer Bob Tillman. And the staff recommendation is none at this time. This is a discussion item 87 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:16,560 only, Mr. Harris. So as the commission knows, when we do have a proposed subdivision, we always start 88 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:22,480 off with a what we call a pre-concept plan. And that is an old action item, a discussion item only, 89 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:29,440 and it allows adjacent residents or residents in the area just kind of a heads up of a proposed 90 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:34,640 subdivision and offers just an opportunity to discuss the project, to ask questions, 91 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:41,520 without it having an action item immediately following. So up on the screen, you see the 92 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:48,720 location of the proposed subdivision. So it is kind of on our, what I call our western growth area 93 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,560 as of late because it is just southwest of the recently, or the newest subdivision of Highland 94 00:09:54,640 --> 00:10:01,280 Point North. It's on the south side of Esoc Road. And then it kind of has a border with the I-43 95 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:08,720 right away and the interurban trail. And then this is a close up of the, just a conceptual 96 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:19,760 layout of the lots. It is about 107 lots in this iteration. And then just showing just kind of 97 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:27,920 layout. And I noted a couple of features of the subdivision. It'll have, as at least in this 98 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:33,520 concept plan, some double-fronted lots with some birming and landscaping if it goes through in 99 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:42,000 this format along Esoc Road and along Ridgewood Road as well. Has three or four cul-de-sacs. 100 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:47,840 And then it has an abutting to the Ozaki Trail. And I anticipate a connection to that. 101 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:54,000 That's the overall summary of the subdivision and the applicant and the engineering team are 102 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:01,440 here if you have any questions. Any questions or wonderings? Mr. Ehrlich. 103 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:07,520 So my only question would be is we should review it with the fire chief just to make sure as far as 104 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:14,000 because there are so many cul-de-sacs. And there's only one main road in, correct, 105 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,880 from what I can tell. There's two egresses. Okay. 106 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,120 Okay. Ridgewood. Okay. Okay. I would just make sure that we talk, 107 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:30,080 talk to the fire chief and that they can get in and out easily. And so. Otherwise, I think it's, 108 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:35,920 I think it's great that we're, we're expanding to our west and utilizing some of that space. 109 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:41,600 Yeah. I want to thank Mr. Tillman for bringing this forward with the developer because this is, 110 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,080 if you guys could get this built by December, we could probably sell it out for you pretty 111 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,720 quickly with the growth. When you look at Ozaki County's growth rates and then you look at 112 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:56,320 poor Washington property values and rapidness of sales and property valuations going over 113 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:02,400 112, 120 percent of listing costs, you know, we're a destination community. So it'll be nice to have 114 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,800 this, especially on that side of town. And I had two wonderings for the superintendent. 115 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:10,880 The first one was, what attendance area for elementary schools would this be? 116 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:15,200 Unfortunately, this is Grafton School District as it's zoned. 117 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,720 It's zoned in the Grafton School District. 118 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:21,600 It is literally the corner of Dunwoody and Stockville. So we will heavily recruit for open enrollment, 119 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,720 but this is Grafton School District as it's currently. 120 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:30,400 Okay. I'm going to move to not allow this development. No, I'm kidding. 121 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Okay. Then thank you for that. We probably should give them a heads up that that that's 122 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,080 coming then. Okay. Other other questions? 123 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,120 Just one question. 124 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,560 All the sec to the city engineer. I know in the past, 125 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:48,880 engineering has sort of been opposed to future cul-de-sacs. Are you on board with this? Is 126 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:53,120 engineering on board? For plowing reasons, I realize. 127 00:12:54,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Yeah. I mean, we like to obviously eliminate all the cul-de-sacs as we can. We do at least 128 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:09,440 reduce the number. I don't, like I said, this is a pre-concept plan that kind of shows 129 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:19,520 roughly. I mean, I'm expecting that the engineering team will continue to work on layout. It might 130 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,240 be substantially like this when it's all said and done. 131 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:34,400 Yeah. The point is, and I should say Bob does generally reach out to the 132 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,680 fire chief, but we'll make sure that he's in love with it. 133 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,080 Okay. Thank you. 134 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:47,040 And then my only other request to the developer is if you could please meet with who your 135 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,120 older person would be and just review the plans in depth with them so they can understand it and 136 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,280 approach and support their neighbors. 137 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:59,280 Just one other comment with the subdivision that would be a benefit to the city, actually, 138 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,440 is for them to get a sewer connection, it would run through the park. 139 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:13,360 One park that is off of Highland, which would set up that park to eventually have bathroom. 140 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:18,320 Excellent. Mr. Reyer? 141 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:23,920 I was just going to say, could you just put me down as an abstention from the conversation on this one? 142 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:27,120 Yeah. Thank you. 143 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:33,120 Any other questions or concerns? There's no motion. It's just for review, and then that begins the process. 144 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:42,160 None? Excellent. I just noticed, I really appreciate that we have the time and temperature 145 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,680 over there, like we're running the Port Washington State Bank sign downtown. That's really cool. 146 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:49,600 All right. With that, Mr. Harris, you have a staff update. 147 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:57,200 I do. Real brief zoning code. The draft of the entirety of the code is on our website, 148 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:02,080 which is accessible right from the front page of City of Port Washington website, along with the 149 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:09,920 proposed zoning map. And we are working hard to tee this up and kick it off to Plan Commission in 150 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:16,880 October. And there will be multiple opportunities for the public to engage, review, and come to our 151 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:20,800 meetings as we're having those conversations, correct? Correct. And we would highly encourage 152 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,440 people to do that, because this was a long journey. This was part of our strategic plan to ensure that, 153 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,080 you know, we had an ordinance update and now a zoning code update, and we are officially in the 154 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:36,160 21st century. Mr. Reyer? Is that the public hearing in October or is it, how do you do that with the 155 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:41,520 city's adoption of the code? Is it like multiple? You know, it's a minimum. It's an ordinance. In 156 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:47,600 the end, it's an ordinance. So it's a minimum of one public hearing, but we have discretion to open 157 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:54,240 that up as well. Okay. And I just would remind everyone for context, we went to extraordinary 158 00:15:54,240 --> 00:16:00,720 lengths to engage the community videos, social media opportunities come in. We reviewed, you know, 159 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:07,040 sections at a time every month. So sometimes people pay attention too late and hopefully we can 160 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,760 get them engaged at this point as well. So all right. Thank you, Mr. Harris. Thank you. Any other 161 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:20,640 questions for Mr. Harris or Bob? All right, friends, Mr. Reyer? There's a motion to adjourn. Is there a second? 162 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:24,800 I'll second. Seconded. All right. All in favor signify by saying aye. 163 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,920 Aye. Opposed? All right. Motion carries.