Planning Commission meeting for August 26th, 2026, roll call, all commissioners are present,
appointees are all present, and the superintendent is, he has every right not to be here as school
starts next week. All right, so with that, is there anyone willing to make a motion to approve
the previous meeting's minutes? There's a motion, is there a second?
Moved and seconded. Any questions or concerns in the minutes?
All right, seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye. Opposed? All right, that motion carries. That takes us into agenda item number three,
public comments and appearances. If individuals wish to speak during public comments, they have
up to three minutes to speak, and I'll be holding it at 30 minutes. Just a reminder that it must
be relevant to our agenda. Are there any public comments this evening? Any public comments?
Any public comments? All right, that moves us into agenda item item number four. Special
exemption, consideration and possible action on a request for a residential driveway to exceed
the maximum width standards located at 311, La Brissa Court, Brian Barber and Andrea Barber,
are the applicants? The project is that the commission is being asked to approve a special
exemption to allow for a residential driveway to exceed the required maximum width, and the
staff is recommending approval subject to the driveway taper beginning behind the sidewalk line.
Mr. Harris. All right, this is the first of two driveway special exceptions we have tonight.
We do not get very many if you add them up through the years, but they tend to come in
waves that are a little bunches. And so we have Mr. Barber is here tonight, and he is requesting
a side driveway of approximately, it is about 12 feet by 28 feet, just tapering behind the sidewalk
and going partially to the side of the side of the drive side of the house.
Purpose for the driveway is very similar to previous approvals, additional kids that are now
young adults and driving, and then, you know, street parking requirements and whatnot. So
Mr. Barber is here if the council has any questions, otherwise the staff commission.
The commission, if you have any questions from the commission, otherwise the approval is to
approve with the taper starting just behind the sidewalk.
Any wonders or worries, questions? Mr. Ehrlich.
So I want to make sure that we're clear it is going on to the side of the garage.
Yes.
Okay, okay.
And the detective.
And I think there is a set of the bays in the packet, yeah.
And then the distance, it looks like the distance to the property line is about 12 feet
ish plus or minus from what I can tell.
I did significantly more than that.
Yeah.
I had the LAPA construction look at it. They are out of city growth and do a lot of work on the
concrete side. And it's probably 20 to 23, I think, feet that's remaining. So he's like,
you could actually go to here. Oh, he's like, you got another three, four feet that we could
easily go, but he's like, we only need this 12 is 12 is it off. Yeah.
So we didn't send it to the edge. Okay.
And I'll move for approval.
So the suggested motion is based upon the criteria stated under section 485 dash 95 b
of the zoning code, I move to approve the special exemption with the staff recommendation.
Is that your motion? What he said. Okay. I need a second then.
Moved and seconded. Any questions or concerns on the motion?
All right. Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed? All right. Motion carries.
Thank you. Enjoyed living on the Breeze court. All right. The next agenda item,
number five is special exemption consideration and possible action on a request for a residential
driveway to exceed the maximum width standards located at 133 South Ava Street.
Dean Kleis and Pat Kleis are the applicants, commissions being asked to approve a special
exemption and the recommended staff recommendation is to approve. Mr Harris.
Okay. So as you can see from the images and then from your packet, the existing driveway,
kind of a long single car driveway and the applicants are requesting a similar side driveway parking
pad just to accommodate one car is the other car can pull out without doing the, you know,
the circus of moving cars in and out. So there you see where it is.
It would be 1.5 feet also from the side property line where as three is required
and hence that is part of the special exception. The applicants are here if you have any questions.
Any questions for Mr Harris or the applicants? Yeah. Yeah.
So am I okay with your neighbors are fine with this? Yes, they are.
Okay. Thank you.
Can I ask? There's shrubs right on the side there. Is the intent to keep the shrubs?
The shrubs will probably be taken down because with the shrubs in that in that position,
you couldn't really open the car door on the passenger side to get in and the neighbors are
fine with that. Okay. Okay.
The recommended motion then is based upon the criteria stated under section 485-95B of the
zoning code. I move to approve the special exemption as presented. Oh, okay. I'll make that motion.
That is my motion. That motion is now seconded. Thank you. Is there any questions or concerns on
the motion? All right. Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? All right,
motion carries. That brings us to agenda item. Yes. Good luck.
You, Mr. Barber, should work together with a mason. Get a two for a deal or something.
Yeah. All right. Well, good luck. Have fun. I don't have fun. Okay. So
minor, Edgen, item number six, minor review, a proposed residential addition in the
neighborhood preservation overlay district for 70 North Power Street. Charles and Julie Frank
are the applicants. The commission is being asked to approve a residential addition to an
existing single family residence located in a neighborhood preservation zoning overlay.
The background on this is that the applicants are the owners of the subject property and are
proposing to construct a two-story addition on the south side of their existing residence due to
the uniqueness of the St. Mary's Hills neighborhood. A neighborhood preservation zone was established
to maintain neighborhood character. Mr. Harris is recommending to approve as presented subject to
board of zoning appeals variance approval. Mr. Harris. Okay. So you are all familiar with North
Power Street. The subject property for 70 is almost directly behind the former St. Mary's school
and park and playground. And it is in that neighborhood preservation overlay zone. So what that means
is if there's a significant exterior change addition or new house, design review board
recommendation and plan commission approval is required. So I'm just going to review the
designs real quick and then recap where we are. So here is the subject property.
It is the former sisters of Notre Dame convent. If I think I have that right.
And then we're just looking east. That's the original home and then the addition that you
see that mid-century addition just to the south. So here is the site plan showing the existing
and then along with the two-story addition. As noted in the report, this did go to board
of zoning appeals last night. They did receive their variance reflecting the approximate seven
foot offset from the front property line. Again, here are the elevations of both the existing home,
the original portion of the home and then the addition and then just some renderings showing
the tan, the brick tan is the original. There's the addition. Again, just a little more detail on
that addition to the south of the original and then showing the back. Again, just real quick,
this was granted the variance. So staff would recommend approval as presented. This also reflects
the recommendation by the design review board. They approved as presented as well.
I'm going to start, Mr. Harris. I have a couple of questions. Well, my first question is,
do you have any indication on the timeline for the development on what is currently the
St. Mary school property? No timeline. And then is there the ability in the approval of this
variance to put in their condition that they cannot discharge water from their property to the east
of their property? I would think that that is required. Anyways, many of those homes, many of
the homes on Power Street have they discharged the water all the way down to the bike trail
and it creates a pretty significant hazard. Oh, I'm sorry to the east. I'm sorry. Yes. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. Right now. I mean, that's that's a wondering of mine as these homes have additions
like as they do their design features for roofing and water discharge because it leads to erosion
a bunch of other stuff. And this is a pretty significant shift in that property. And there's
a lot of roof. You mean like the drain tiles that run down the hill? Yeah. Well, they don't
have yeah, they don't have drain tiles that run down the hill. Many of them take their gutters and
they just run plastic. Yeah, that's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Black. Yep. That runs all the way
down. They'll run that 100 feet down right to the bike trail. And it becomes a little waterfall.
The applicant is here if you have if you want to address that too. I'm wondering if there's some
roger if there's something we could be with an ordinance or
because I also see there's a shift in the retaining wall that looks like it's a steel
retaining wall. It's going to be poured versus the. You think about Roger? Mm-hmm. You don't
have to answer right now, but Eric, did you have Mr. Ryder? Did you have a question? No, just to
go back to, you know, your request, Mr. Mayor, you know, it doesn't, you know, we can make that
notation in the motion to approve as something like explore or adhere to or, you know, something
some similar verbiage like that. Yeah, I just I don't want to put an undue burden on the property
owner. I don't know if architecturally that's something that can be done because, you know,
they're not allowed no one's allowed to discharge directly into storm sewer anymore either. So
up there, these are unique properties where all that water comes off that roof line and down into
a gutter and then over the side of the hill. And you're going to have gutters on that side. So
maybe we can drain them into that proposed hot tub. We could just,
yeah, Mr. Fringing, and you were walking in. There was a question about I can reframe it for him.
The gutter is or just the discharge in the back.
Yeah, we could try. Can you step up to the podium there?
So before we walked in, what I was I was outlining my concern that many of the homes along your
street discharge water down the hill onto the bike trail, creating hazards and then other
pieces. So my wondering was in the addition and the shift here if there's something that the city
can do to prohibit water being discharged to the east of your property towards the bike trail
or down the hill because everybody runs down drains and what we do. I believe a swale was created
at the bottom of that for this purpose as well as for the runoff on the on the bike path. You're
right. It will become saturated every now and then, but for the most part, it seems to be doing a
very good job. All right, Mr. Reyer, did you have something to add?
I was just going to say the addition looks really, really nice in terms of a design.
Thank you. Thank you very much. It looks Mark Myshevsky. I was going to, and I was going to ask
with the retaining wall, there's no concerns about the weight and everything that that
will be structurally sound. No, it's been banded and has held up since the early 60s,
stood its ground through the 100-year flood of what it was at 96. And so we feel good about that.
The the southern portion of it, we had that reinforced, we dug up and put in a concrete
barrier in our lawn. We then welded metal rope binders, if you will, to it. And we feel very good
about that. It was also put together by an engineer out of Schublagen, Frank Myers, I think it is.
So we had that all taken care of. We feel strongly. We feel good about it.
Because it's a considerable amount of money to go ahead and invest.
Is your new, Mark?
I walk that quite a bit in winter, and I don't think the soil is very effective.
I'll do respect to your opinion, but I'd like the city engineer's opinion on that
destroyed because you can put your gutters into the storm sewer. I paid for an addition to that.
The storm sewer so people can look in. But I think that is a problem in winter down there.
You know, I can understand your consideration having lived there now for 40 years,
and also with our family being there since 58, and the home being there since 1850s.
I don't think the storm sewers are adequate with what they currently have,
but that's my opinion, to handle large storms.
You have a huge runoff from the church, and that's kind of a peak, and it comes and centers
on our property and goes left or right. At the bottom of both of those,
you know, egresses, if you will, there's two 10-inch pipes to handle it all.
And so I don't feel that's adequate streetwise.
So I think that would put more burden on what's actually there now.
So, okay, Roger?
Just to kind of general weigh in, there is no storm sewer in front of his house on Power Street.
There's none in the rear of his house either. General rule of thumb is, you know, with drainage,
just, you know, do no harm to your neighbor, but no downhill is downhill.
So it's a lot of gray area, basically.
What? So my answer is there is no answer.
Okay, Mr. Ehrlich.
A couple questions. The Design Review Board approved as is, okay, and colors wise,
is it going to be all white, white trim, white siding, everything?
I knew my wife should have come.
I got selected.
I believe it's going to be slightly different than that.
I think it's going to be more of a top or a light coffee, if you will.
Okay, okay. And then the brick wains coat that you have around that,
that's, are you using the creme city that the house, the original house is,
something similar to that, or are you?
I believe it's something similar to that, but I believe it is a darker shade.
Okay. Okay. Just be real careful with how you do it, so it doesn't.
Absolutely.
It doesn't look like you're trying to match it with, you know, and not coming close.
You know what I mean?
Totally understanding.
Oh, that, oh, that good. Thank you.
So it's, the, the creme, or the brick is all painted here.
Correct.
Okay. That, that changes things.
Okay. Then I feel a little bit, I, I feel a little better with it.
Okay.
That's all I had.
Sure.
So the staff recommended motion is to approve as presented subject,
and it has already been approved by the zoning appeals board, right?
Correct.
So approve the variance approved, to approve the variance.
Approve the minor review.
Minor review.
Yes.
Thank you.
That is moved. Is there a second?
Moved and second.
Any questions or concerns on the motion?
All right. Seeing none.
All in favor signify by saying aye.
Aye.
Opposed?
All right. Motion carries.
All right. That brings us to agenda item number seven, planned development overlay
consideration possible action on a request for conditional plan development overlay
for a proposed multifamily development consisting of five 35 unit apartment buildings
located at 2326, 232332 Sunset Road.
Blinsky Holmes is the applicant.
The background on the subject property is in the town of Port Washington,
but surrounded by the city of Port Washington on three sides,
only abutting the property to the north is not within the city limits.
As such numerous residential developments for the property have been proposed in recent years,
including two projects reviewed by the Planning Commission.
Both projects did not advance beyond the conceptual level as a result.
Mr. Harris is recommending that the staff recommendation is conditional approval
of the plan development overlay subject to the following.
Number one, annexation number two, land use map amendment.
And number three, RM4 zoning and number four, and approved developers agreement.
Mr. Harris.
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
So the commission has seen this item a year ago.
This is just east of Greystone subdivision at the Northwest Quadrant of Sunset and LL.
This is a concept plan that the commission approved last year.
This was before a fairly large, fairly good group of residents from the Greystone subdivision.
And it is what you, it is the five 35 unit buildings.
And right now, so here's what we're doing here tonight.
As part of this project, there was a, the council recently approved a pre-development
agreement. And what that agreement does is allows the developer to submit the number
of needed applications on a contingent approval basis, just because this is not yet
in the city. There is a, there was just, to a lot of it is to alleviate concern by the
property owner that it, if the project gets annexed into the city, you know, the project
would be substantially altered or not approved. And combined with a special assessment that's
attached to this property, there was just, the, the, there was the, the, Belinsky and the
property owner requested this pre-development agreement to allow them to kind of put these,
these approvals kind of in place. So when they do annex and there's a developer agreement,
they can back into what is the, both kind of adhering to the concept plan and this overlay plan
development on a contingent basis. So real quick, I'm just going to summarize what's being
proposed. Here is the concept plan. And then there was some feedback from residents. And most
notably, the change is really two items that I would say is moving this center building from
the closest to the residence on Garnet Lane and then pushing that forward to LL. The other item
is this is more of what the city is asking for is the continuation of shale stone to LL and also
allow for a future road connection to the property to the north. As shown in the concept plan, there
is no, there is no continuation of Galena drive into this development. This will have its own
dedicated ingress, egress onto a sunset road. And so what I'm asking is for contingent approval
subject to those other approval items. That's what I'm asking for tonight. John Donovan from
Belinsky is here. And if you have any more questions about the contingent process or the
reasons for, I'll let John add some details. But other than that, I'm asking for contingent
approval of this overlay plan development, which will eventually lead into the annexation in the
final building and site plan approvals after the contingent approvals. Excellent. Any questions?
Mr. Ehrlich. So, the reason for the flip of the common building and the other apartment
building, that was because of the neighbors felt to the, what is that, to the west? To the west.
Yeah, that was too close to the property line. Yeah, that was actually requests by
one or two of these residents on Garnet Lane. So they didn't have the two, three story apartment,
you know, kind of parallel with their backyard and their homes. And they just asked if it could
be pushed up just so to avoid, you know, a little more elbow room or breathing space from the apartment.
They had quite a bit. Yeah, it was 100 feet. Yeah. The other reason is the height of the building.
They didn't want the building looking into their windows as well because there's a
elevation change there, but this building's three stories high. So we were, you know,
it's a concept plan. We certainly made it work and probably even for the better. So, yeah.
Appreciate that thoughtfulness. Yeah, it's nice that you listen to people and I appreciate that.
I think it's a nice development. It's, is there any questions in regards to the process
that we're rework, we basically have reversed it from getting annexation is usually the first
thing you do. We're doing it because the seller doesn't want, be honest with you, the seller doesn't
want the property in the city if there's not a project approved. Right. So, simple as that.
I don't have any questions. No, I just the only the only questions I have is can you give me an
idea of what you expect in there for a population? Like when you guys run like, you know, how many
single family, how many couple like when you when you run those on what you know about
Washington, what's going to be the educational impact how many kids will be living in there?
Yeah, I'd have to come back with that. I don't have that information. I can certainly probably use
our two buildings that we already have in Fort Washington as an example. Yeah. And I can certainly
bring that back at the final review of the. So when you run your pro forma that's based upon the
same sort of rent. Same sort of rent. The buildings are going to be very similar.
That's already been built. The colors may be different on the exteriors. We do not do three
bedrooms. We do one bedrooms and two bedrooms and some studios, but that is it. That criteria in
itself eliminates challenges with parking to many people living in a unit, things of that nature.
And what will your range? Do you have an estimated range of what those rents will be?
I do not. Same as those. Okay. But I'll have that for you. That I am all about
site development. I don't do vertical, but I will have those numbers to you. I'll shoot them
the Bob so you can get them by the end of the week. Excellent. I just we have a pretty nice
opportunity here to do some significant development. And we also have a significant demand for entry
level and affordable opportunities in Port Washington. So thank you for doing this. So with that,
I'm actually going to make the motion to move to approve the plan development overlay contingent
on approval of the annexation, land use map amendment, the RM4 zoning and an approved
developers agreement. So anyone willing to make a second? Second. Any questions or concerns on
the motion? Seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Aye. All right,
motion carries. All right, that brings us to agenda item number eight. Consideration
and possible action on a use of determination for proposed intergenerational daycare facility
located at 104 West Main Street. Zeal investment partners is the applicant. The planning commission
is being asked to determine the use to determine the use of a proposed intergenerational daycare
facility and if such use is permissible within the B4 zoning district. Staff recommends the use
of as a community center use slash private lodge or clubs subject to an approved building site
and operations plan. Mr. Harris. Okay, so I've come to the commission once or twice in the past
asking for there is a proposal for a business or some type of use. It doesn't that set use is not
really specified in the zoning code for the district in which it's located. And so what the zoning
code tells me is that when when such an occasion occurs, I take it to the plan commission and ask
for their guidance and determination on the use. So in this case, as you know, the former pool
funeral home next door is up for sale. There is an interest by the applicant to acquire purchase
the property and use the ground floor as a intergenerational daycare facility. It's it's not a
licensed daycare. I've kind of asked that I've kind of asked that of both the brokers and the
applicant about how is this not a day or child daycare. And so and I'll let them explain the
use in more detail in just a moment. And so looking at the downtown zoning, the B4 zoning,
you have we're looking at a community service establishment such as a social club that is
permitted subject to the site and building plan. It could be categorized by the commission as a
daycare center. Again, like a child state licensed daycare center. In this case, the applicants are
stating this is not a traditional state licensed daycare center. And that is not permitted in before
or they can the commission can simply say it's not a listed use and therefore it is not permitted.
So after meeting with the applicants and getting kind of some details on their business or operating
plan, I recommend my recommendation is to categorize this as a community service establishment. That's
how it's listed in the zoning code. And then there is examples elsewhere in the code.
In this case, a social club, since it's you know, it's members paying a fee or dues. And it is
adults, you know, having doing social and programming with infants and toddlers. That's my recommendation.
But what I want to do now is have the applicants or the party with the applicants to come up and
perhaps explain in a little more detail for the commission, you know, the business, the use and how
it will operate. I see approaches to my phone. Any questions for Bob on the proposal or the
zoning shift or if we can do this?
I use your interpretation. Just one question. Is this building
on historic register or anything? It is not. It is not. Okay.
Well, questions you have for the applicant?
I'm not sure I understand the the concept. The concept. Yeah, I'm
Lillian Williamson. And what we want to do is I've had a passion about seniors and people who
are older flourishing. And I've been involved with that for about 30 some years. So my goal here is
for seniors and, you know, well, people of all ages to interact with young people because a lot
of our community has been isolated as seniors and there are people that are not around children,
maybe their grandkids are far away or family members. But I've seen just with my own eyes and
multiple places that have been that they would really benefit from having intergenerational
interaction with people. And the reason it's not like a typical daycare is because people will
come in and say mothers with their children interacting with the seniors, maybe it's story
time, maybe it's art classes, maybe it's learning manners. And one of the things we want to do is
like, you know, have children learn how to respect adults and even people who have disabilities so
that they can treat them as all people need to be treated. I think we really need that in our society.
And the great thing about the pool property, it's a historic building. One of our main
purposes is to to retain the historic nature of the building and to make it very inviting to the
community and also to the people that come there to participate in activities. And we see having
different classes and cultural events, art shows, there are many purposes that could be
it could be used for here. So but the first critical thing is to make sure that the building is
is the historical value of the building is retained and inviting for everyone.
Are you operating as a nonprofit? No, we are a for-profit. I mean, in order to
to be able to offer the services that we want, we need to be a profitable business so we can keep
in business and perpetuity when I'm long gone. I mean, that place has been in the same family
for three generations. So we would like to have it continue in the same way. It's it really is a
beautiful building, a beautiful part of the downtown area.
Agreed. Mr. Trump? Yeah, so can you turn your microphones off if you're using it?
So parents come and they stay with their children here then or they're not.
It's like a family interaction. Yeah, there are different things, but like a daycare center,
there's there's certain stipulations. I mean, I put it in my plan is it could operate that way,
but our goal really is intergenerational interaction with families,
you know, and seniors. So they would come like, you know, there are parents that are home with
their kids. I know there are families that have maybe special needs family members at home and
this is a place where they could also go and participate with the community and feel like
they're really a part of it. Okay, and I mean, so that helps our parents are there. Are you doing
background checks on adults or? Well, I think because it's by membership, people will
will be applicants to be members of this community. And I'm very strong on presence.
I'm very strong on on certain criteria that I want for people who are there and and
you know, if they meet my criteria, then they're certainly welcome.
Is there staff? Pardon me. Is there staff? I have proposed staff. Yeah, but we don't need. I mean,
it's different. It's not like you have people, you know, it's not childcare where you have to have
the child to adult ratio. It's not like that because you would have parents involved. You have
seniors involved. It is like Mr. Harris said, a socialization of flourishing community where
people can really have a great time and enjoy each other's presence.
Where can we go and see an example of this? Well, I've been all over the country seeing things.
I mean, this is really cutting edge. This is really cutting edge. It's more like a family
environment. I visited places in Minneapolis and out east and they aren't doing quite what I'm
doing. You know, this is, like I said, socialization and a chance to really benefit all age groups.
It'll be fun. Okay. Any other questions? I can't call on you.
Well, wait. No, I can't call on you at all. Oh, sorry. It's just the commission and her.
Unless you're an investor.
Any other wonderings? I guess I'm still a nod. So
I will you be programming activities for adults and children? I guess I heard Bob say that.
Yes. Yeah. There are programs. In fact, I also have people, you know, I've had people who have
activities. They have actually approached me about, I would like to do this for your group. Like I have
just an example, a gentleman that runs programs for exercise programs for seniors, you know,
for longevity and, you know, and he would like he said he thinks he could come in and, you know,
come in as independent contractors, work with adults. I have someone that enjoys teaching
and teaching language and she would like to come in and maybe have participants learn different
learn a particular language, say adults and seniors and then, you know, having seniors
read to children, you know, would be really would be good for both of them. So things like that,
a lot of different programs. Are you alcohol under premises? For me, no. No alcohol, no cell
phones. No, no cell phones on the premises when you're working with the people. It's a very,
it's a very face to face thing. And type of operational hours? Well, we have, it would be
daytime hours. And then because of the type of building that it is, we also could be open for,
like for instance, art shows. We could have speakers come in like for the community on the weekends
or use it as an event space. The building such where you could have breakouts, like if you had
people coming to speak that they could have breakout groups on the weekends. You know,
I haven't looked at that that far ahead. Our main goal is getting the building, you know,
in perfect condition so that we can invite people to see it. How soon are you looking to start?
As soon as we close, I've got contractors, but you know how difficult it is. Contractors are
really tough to get because everybody's busy, but I do have contracts that can start,
first of all, in the exterior and then going on the interior at the same time. So I'm taking,
I'm thinking it's about a three month process to get the building.
I mean, what about operationally? I mean,
operational could be operational about three months. Probably wouldn't have a grand opening
until spring because that's the better time of year to show it off.
Do you limit the number of people that could be members or I mean?
Well, because it's day and I mean that space is adequate enough that we could have multiple
members, but I have a 30 member full-time member if people wanted to come full-time
during the day for seniors and then children, because it's a staggered thing, you know, I put 16
just as a baseline, but since they're not all day care and then they have also their, you know,
they could come in with their parents by law. Children can be there with supervision for three
hours or less and not be licensed, you know, with our staff.
Bob, what's the statutory definition of a
lodge, private lodge or club? And does this qualify? Because I looked it up before this and...
Yeah, I looked it up and that's why I, it's not so much a lodge as a social club,
or a private, what do I have here? I mean, I looked at the definitions.
Private lodge or club? Yeah, I mean that's, that is in the zoning code is an example of a community
service establishment. So there's in under the use text, community service establishments are
permitted and one example is that they is a private lodge or social club that's like,
it's like saying the zoning code saying
such as, but not specific to or including others as similar uses. So looking up the definitions,
I thought it was more of a social club. I think that came closest to the use and so that informed
my recommendation. And real quick, I just want to just reiterate, we're not approving the
business or the use tonight, we're just trying to find where or if it's in the zoning code under
community service or others or none.
I just, I mean, I'm going to speak for myself. I just feel it's very cloudy as to what you're
doing. I appreciate your enthusiasm and explanation. I just, even when I read through the kind of
the proposed idea, I don't really understand like the business plan of what would go down there for
us to shift that. It's a key property in the city of Port Washington. And like you pointed
out, it's a historic property. It's no risk to the city for your business, but it would be a risk,
you know, for the region for us to redefine and then zone it appropriately and then
have future councils or people try to figure out what to do with it. So
there's kind of cloudy on what it is. You mean, I don't understand what future councils
would future. Well, when we change things and we, if we shift, you know,
permanent uses and different pieces like that in your business, you know, you retire someday and
it shifts to something else, you know, I certainly wouldn't want that to happen. No, I mean, I get
what you say is cloudy, but the important thing for me is that it retains, it retains its historic
value. It's it stays true to what the community would want. And, you know, our goal is to work
with the community and not be have it be something that wouldn't fit with what your city plans are.
Yeah. And as you're describing it, I mean, our senior center does a tremendous amount of the
programming that you're explaining and the intergenerational pieces are there. And that's what I just,
you know, my competition is a good thing. I just, I think that the duplicity of services and the
engagement of seniors, our downtown is growing in new ways with a development just to the west of
your or the north and west of your property and just to the north and east of your property and
it'll be a significant new population in downtown Port Washington. So I'm just articulating I just,
it's not very clear to me what it is. And I'm in the business of working with people. So I just,
I don't have a problem with it. I just, I don't, I'm not very clear. And I think if we move forward,
I'd like to see much greater depth and clarity, business plans, expectation, impact of traffic,
what it's going to do to parking, you know, if we're going to be working on it, if you're going to
be moving on to the exterior parts of the property for recreational pieces, if you'll be removing
the parking there because I know the property also has an adjacent property to it and those
different types of pieces because all the lifers know that, you know, a hearse used to pull in and
out of there and symbolically for it to move to senior care when it had a different purpose
long ago, I just, I don't want you in a position where. Right. And I think there's concern because,
you know, when people look at it as a funeral home, but you know, that funeral home has a,
funeral home has a great reputation. It's been a great part of this community. And we want to
preserve that. We want to really add to the community. And like you said, there are other
senior living type things going around, not only in this area, but around the neighboring
communities. And I think as far as competition, I welcome more things that will do more for our
seniors. It's really important. I agree with you on that. I have a couple questions. Yeah, Mr.
Ryer. So when it says recommending on how to determine if it's a use or not, is this like a
principal use or a conditional use then? It would be a, it'd be a permitted use subject to building
site and operations plan. Okay. What do you mean by building site operations subject to?
Since we're not, we're just trying to find if this use fits into the allowable uses in the B4
zoning district. And right now, if it's under as a permitted use, such as a community service
establishment, it'd be approved subject to a building site and operations plan, which is a closer
look of approving use. So you would have a site plan, you would have a, your business operations
detailed out. You would have, you know, everything ingress ingress wherever people park. So it's a,
essentially a site plan along with a detailed business plan that the commission will approve
before an occupancy can be granted. Right. When what about the fact that it has, it has right now
five rental units for three of them are occupied. I mean, that can, that remains the same, correct?
It remains the same. Residential units above commercial is appropriate for downtown. So that's
not an issue here. I mean, when it changes ownership, that would not change. No, it's, it's, it's,
it's an allowable use in this district. Because I have to sense, I have to be sensitive to the fact
that there are three tenants that are still in the area. I generally had the same bucket of
questions that the mayor did in just looking for more detail. And when you say things like
might be looking at some events, events is like a, a wide open thing. It could be anything that
anybody could come up with would be an event. So I would just be looking for a detail. Yeah.
Because it, that could domino into I don't have enough parking and things like that. So
being real specific in what you were thinking of doing in terms of the operations of it would
help quite a bit. Good to know. Yes.
So, I think it's an interesting concept. There are lots of questions because it is so new and so
kind of cutting edge. The way I'm seeing it is, it's still zoned before. It is now, all we're trying
to do is say, is, is a social club or this type of social club part of the Z before as part of it,
correct? You're saying if social club is, is already defined as a, is already part is considered a
community service establishment. Right. Right. What you're doing here is you're determining whether
this proposal fits under, could fit under a social club use and therefore make it a
permitted subject to me. We're not limiting the fact that it could be anything else in before.
Let's say something happens in five years, 10 years down the road. It changes. And we're not
limiting it to be anything else in the before zoning. Any use other use would have to come
through the same process. Right. Right. So, I don't think, I don't think that that would hinder
the future of that building at all. Anyway, I think it's an interesting concept and
yeah, I really would like to see more information about the business plan, but it's not a, I don't
think it's, I think it would, should be welcomed. Is it a motion? I will move, I move to classify
the proposed use, a community service establishment as a private larger club. Is there a second?
Any questions or concerns on the motion? All right. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.
Opposed? All right. Motion carries. Thank you. Thank you. Look forward to seeing you in the
future. All right. Agenda item number nine. Consideration and possible action on a proposed
amendment to a conditional use grant to expand an existing outdoor eating and drinking area
located at 305 East Washington Street. Adam Drager is the applicant. Plan Commission is being
asked to provide a recommendation to common council to amend a conditional use grant to allow
additional outdoor eating and drinking seating for inventor's brew pub on the east side of the
building fronting Lake Street. The staff recommends approval of the conditional use grant request
subject to the following seven conditions. Mr. Harris, you get to discuss those. I will discuss
this. As the commission may well know, outdoor eating and drinking areas that we see for restaurant
bars, et cetera, are considered conditional uses in the zoning code. Inventors three years
ago, I believe it was, was approved for a conditional use for outside seat drinking and dining along
the south side of the building that is in the orange facing the north slip. Inventors is now
requesting to amend that conditional use and expand that outdoor seating to the east or the
lake street facing portion of the building. And so in the diagram here, we see where that would be
about a 17 by 57 foot area. We have a little bit of a bit more diagramic view of that.
Essentially, all we're doing is amending the conditional use grant that's in place now
and just including this area. We're using the same conditions. Those are those six
conditions that I have listed here. That's in the existing conditional use for
the north slip area. And it's pretty standard verbiage that we use for all outdoor eating and
dining conditional uses. I did add one additional item talking to public works. There may be in
the future a desire or a plan for street trees or a street right-of-way planters. And so the
seventh condition of approval just allows the city to require inventors to accommodate any
future trees or planters and kind of move the beer garden area to meet that accordingly.
I believe, and I think if Wayne can, you know, if I'm wrong, but just for the sake of saying this,
the beer garden area will not be painted yellow and the bike parking area will not be painted
blue. I think that's correct, right? Okay. And so with that, the staff recommendation is to approve
with those seven conditional use criteria that we would take to ham and council for final approval.
So the seven different pieces are pretty standard for what we do and what we've done in the past.
Mr. Ryer, do you have any questions? We'll move to recommend approval of the conditional use
grant request subject to the seven conditions outlined in the report.
There is a motion to approve with the seven conditions. Is there a second?
There's a seconded. All right. Any questions or concerns on the motion? All right. Seeing none,
all in favor signify by saying aye. Opposed? Abstentions. One abstention. Okay.
That takes us into the next agenda item. Agenda item number 10, certified survey map,
consideration and possible action on a certified survey map to divide one lot into two lots located
at 365 North Wisconsin Street and 104 West Washington Street, City of Port Washington is the applicant.
Plan Commission is being asked to approve the subject CSM to facilitate the sale and redevelopment
of the downtown police and fire department block. The background is that the City of Port Washington
has recently built a safety center and both the police and fire department have moved
to the new safety center and it has a desire to have the current lands developed.
The staff recommends approval of the certified survey map. Mr. Harris.
So this agenda item and the two following are all related to the former police and
fire block and the redevelopment into the town homes that we've seen earlier.
So here is a here is the copy of the CSM showing lot one is going to remain with the
City of Port Washington. That is that little pocket park area at Jackson and Milwaukee and
then lot two will be divided off. It will be appropriately land use designated in the
comp plan and then it will be zoned and it'll be part of the eventual handoff to
Mr. Suddendorf and his group for the town home approval. So with that staff is
requesting approval of the CSM. Any questions for Mr. Harris? Mr. Strong.
I move to approve the CSM. There's a motion to approve the CSM. Is there a second?
There's a second. Any questions or concerns on the motion? Seeing none all in favor signify
by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right that brings us to agenda item number 11.
Comprehensive plan amendment consideration possible action on the plan commission resolution
2026-01. A resolution to amend the City of Port Washington's comprehensive land use plan for
the purpose to accommodate a proposed residential development located at 365 North Wisconsin Street
and 104 West Washington Street. Plan commission is being asked to provide a recommendation to
Common Council via Plan Commission resolution 2026-01 on amending the city's comprehensive
future land use map to designate approximately 1.4 acres of land from government,
institutional and utilities to mixed use traditional neighborhood to accommodate a proposed
residential town home development. The staff recommends approval of land use amendment with
a land use designation of mixed use traditional neighborhood. Mr. Harris.
Okay since we have approved creating the lot for the redevelopment. Now we need to
put it in the land use plan to set it up for the proper zoning and with that we have to use the
plan commission resolution to provide that land use recommendation to the Common Council.
And so the recommendation is to approve it going from the government institutional utilities that
you see in blue over to the lime green which is mixed use traditional neighborhood in which
these town homes will be permitted. We're doing this via resolution 2026-1 resolution recommending
an amendment to the comprehensive plan for the City of Port Washington.
I just wanted for context to remind the commission of a couple things. Number one is
Mr. Harris a few years back had let out a downtown plan which had reviewed a lot of possibilities
what could happen what could happen. We're executing on that plan for this. Number two I just I love
the fact that this looks like it was drawn by a child and colored with a crayon. It's my favorite
map that we have. There is a back. When I was hired I was asked to do a plan. It wasn't really
specified so it made sense that I should do with the most important part of a comprehensive plan.
I had zero budget. I didn't have any GIS or shape files and so I just had to make do as best I could.
It is. It's my favorite map. I think I think it's like a cool look a map.
And he only had a box of 10 colors per career. Right. Right. And apparently at that time lime
flaming green was his favorite. When I'm right. Just a hat tip to Mr. Kroger for the
yes the colors the graphics. Well I appreciate this and I really appreciate the fact that we're
sticking to that strategy and we're we're executing that strategy. So I'm going to make the motion
to approve. I move to approve the Planning Commission Resolution 2026-01 and recommend
the Common Council approve the proposed amendment to the city of Port Washington's
comprehensive plan with a land use designation of mixed use traditional neighborhoods to the
subject lands. So someone willing to make a second. I'll send a second that motion. Motion.
The motion is moved and seconded. Any questions or concerns on the motion?
All right. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Opposed? All right. Motion carries. That
takes us to number 12 rezoning consideration and possible action to rezone approximately 1.4 acres
of land located at 365 Northwest Wisconsin Street and 104 West Washington Street from PUL public
and utility lands to be for central business district. The city of the port of Port Washington
is the applicant. We've heard the background on this. Mr. Harris.
So with the property carved out it is has a recommendation to
change the land use designation from government to downtown zoning more or less. Here is the
recommendation to the Common Council from the plan commission to rezone said parcel from PUL
to B4 central business district. Staff recommends approval for the council to do so.
Any questions or concerns for Mr. Harris? The recommended motion is I move to recommend
the Common Council rezone the subject property to B4 central business district.
So just don't move. There's a motion. Is there a second?
Moved and seconded. Any questions or concerns on the motion?
Seeing none all in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed? All right that motion carries. Staff update on zoning code rewrite.
This is two minutes will be allotted to this agenda item.
That's quite all right. I will I hit it with under two minutes. So update.
So we're looking at a you know I think I think what we're heading into is I'm talking
I need to we'll be I'll be huddling up with grave and civic tech on the final draft.
We're looking at possibly September possibly October but certainly a November council review
and approval if all goes well. And so that is the only update I have. I think there's a couple
things I I need to be very confident about when this thing goes live.
So I'm just we're talking to grave on some final details. So expect to see a final draft in either
September. Don't be surprised if it's October just given all the little final little details
ago with that. But certainly I think I have I have a debt drop diet drop deadline of November
going to council. Thank you, Mr Harris. Any questions?
Mr. Reyer. There's a motion to adjourn. Is there a second?
Seconded by Mr. Strom. All in favor signify by saying aye.
Opposed? The motion carries. This meeting is adjourned. Go.