To order the August 25th, 2026 meeting of the City of Port Washington Board of Public Works.
Roll call, Mr. Polly is absent tonight, but we will welcome our new member,
Ross Brooks, who is here for his first meeting. So congratulations on joining our board.
They'll bring us on to item two, approve the minutes of the previous meetings.
We have two sets of minutes and we will be approving them separately.
So are there any questions or changes to the first set of minutes which would be for Wednesday,
July 22nd meeting? Seeing none, is there a motion to approve?
A motion to approve.
We have a motion by Alderman Miller. Is there a second?
Second.
Second by Mr. Sundorff. All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carries.
That brings us to the second set of minutes, which is for the Tuesday, July 27th, 2026 meeting.
Are there any questions or comments on those minutes?
If not, I will entertain a motion to approve them.
Make a motion to approve.
So we have the motion by Alderman Miller. Is there a second?
Second.
Second by Mr. Sundorff.
All those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed? Motion carries.
That brings us to item three, public comments and appearances.
Please make sure if you're going to make a public comment or appearance that you state your name
and address and that you sign in with your name and address.
We will have 30 minutes for public comments and you will have three minutes.
Are there anyone who has a public comment or appearance?
My name is Dean Wigert. I'm at 3708 East Norport Drive in the town of Port.
The fact sheet from the city dated August 7th states anticipated well usage for the construction
trailer office area. I assume this is the same trailer area that was referred to as housing at
the last public works meeting is 12,000 gallons per day, roughly what 35 residential homes use.
What are they doing in the trailers to use that much water?
The same fact sheet starts by explaining that nobody is or will be living in the construction
trailer area. So if no one lives there, what is all the water for?
I don't think it's unreasonable to ask since that we were told there wasn't going to be use of
groundwater. The timeline specified on the well utilization plan from vantage says
only for the duration of the construction or until the city gets water to Lake Drive.
That timeframe is expected before the end of summer 2027. That seems pretty wide open.
Who thought this was a good idea? A 15 billion dollar development that comes in starts construction.
The land is now unrecognizable. The buildings are huge already visible from miles away and yet
they still don't have the water that they need from the city and no one can say for certain
when that will happen. They say the wells are for the construction phase, but what are they
going to do when they need water for their cooling system? Who's going to guarantee that
they have municipal water by then? As we all know, they don't have the electricity to run the place.
The ATC was told to go back to the drawing board for the power lines needed. One of the
planned routes was going north to Kelly McCounty where there isn't even a power plant yet.
Who plans on powering this mammoth data center by running lines to a non-existent, yet to be
built power plant? Why was none of this necessary infrastructure of water and electricity nailed
down before now? This isn't somebody's bait shop on Lake Drive setting up a tent and running
on an extension cord and a hose from the house. Are we expected to believe that this is the
planning that goes into a 15 billion dollar data center? I guess the same person planned out the
use of the roads, closing Highland, closing LL for a while, closing Lake Drive and then expecting
all of us to put up with the dump trucks, the cement trucks, the workers vehicles in and out
of the site while not creating complete havoc for local residents and our roads.
What's really going on here? It seems so poorly conceived and realized I have no faith in anything
vantage says or the city reports. The August 7 fact sheet states water meters on the wells
will measure actual water usage and quote, vantage must provide monthly water usage totals to the
city. How is that going to be reported, verified, documented? If someone doesn't nail that down,
I'm afraid it's going to be like all the other planning from vantage except that they'll already
have permission to use the wells. Thank you. Thank you. Any other public comments or appearances?
Tracy Finch, 1142 West Porphy Drive. I'm here to urge you to deny vantage data center requests
for access to the wells. Because the people living around this project already carry more
than their share of burden. For months, residents in the town have lived through relentless noise,
shaking, dust, disruption. Families have watched their daily routines break apart. Parents have
to comfort their children by the construction vibration. People who were left safe in their
homes now feel like they're living in a construction zone. Granting vantage access to these wells
would add yet another layer of instability to the neighborhood already pushed to its limits.
Environmentally, the decision matters. When this land became part of the city of Fort Washington,
those wells should have been sealed right away to protect the groundwater, integrity, and nearby
wells that this close to residential foundations can influence groundwater pressure, soil movement,
and long-term stability. These are not theoretical risks. They are real environmental impacts that
fall directly on the families who live just outside from the site. Inventage has alternatives. They
can route through water from the south end of their property to the north end without touching
the wells near homes. This is a design challenge that they can solve internally. Residents should
not be asked to absorb environmental risks simply because vantage wants the easiest option.
But accountability issues just says important. Vantage has already used these wells without a
permit, acting first and expecting forgiveness later. That is not how responsible partners behave.
When a company repeatedly ignores process, the consequences land on the people living next to
them. The board has a duty to protect the residents from the pattern. Tonight you have a choice. You
can add to the strain of residents already living under. Or you can draw a clear line that
their well-being comes first. Denying this permit is only the decision that protects families,
protects groundwater, and protects stability of this neighborhood.
All right. Thank you. Any additional public comments or appearances?
Good evening. My name is Catherine Gardner. I live at 3689 East Northport Drive in the town
of Fort Washington. My comments are related to the Vantage well permit application.
I do not know whether the water use requested on this application will damage the water supply.
My town neighbors and I depend on. What I do know is Vantage has a consistent pattern
of stretching the limits of starting with a reasonable sounding request and then returning
with greater demands and offering token donations when the natural consequences of a hyperscale
construction project play out. Throughout this discussion I well usage we hear much the same
language as we've heard in the past referring to plans and intentions, not commitments.
Vantage's town neighbors already bear a disproportionate share of the burden
from this city project. So tonight I'm asking you board members to be good neighbors.
Please view the decisions you make as if what's at stake were your investment in your household
well, your property values, and the availability and the quality of the water your family drinks.
Because that's what's at stake for those of us in the town who are the unwilling and unhappy
neighbors of this city business. I urge you to put responsible and enforceable limits on the
amount and length of water use to establish frequent and effective monitoring reporting and
inspection requirements to define meaningful penalties for violations and to hold firm
when Vantage comes back to you for more. Thank you.
Thank you. Any additional?
Kim Tydrick, town of Port Washington. Please give your address.
Town of Port Washington. I'm not a resident. You guys tell me that all the time.
The requirement is that you have to give your street address.
You guys all have it already. It's 4, 4, 6, 5, Wilder's Way.
Thank you.
I've been here before. I've been to the Common Council meetings. I keep harping on the same things.
Today is about the wells. So let's start with the fact that the mayor, the city, and the DNR
have no credibility anymore. After skipping the environmental impact statement that was
required by state law and waived by whomever at Ted Nitsky's request and Vantage's behest,
there is no credibility here. So when you people speak to us, we have no reason to believe you
anymore. When the mayor speaks to us, there's absolutely no reason to believe them. When Vantage
says that they're going to be good neighbors, there's been not one iota of good neighbor.
So I just want to remind each and every one of you here
that we as town of Port residents will be holding the city liable
when something happens to our wells. Water is a basic building block. It is the most basic thing
that you need to survive. So you're actually affecting the basic building blocks of our lives
by playing with the water here. As some of these other people have said, you have already given them
water. They just have to run a bigger hose. If I need water at the back of my property,
I run a hose. They could be using the trucks from the fountains or the, excuse me, the
hydrants in the city like they've been doing in the past. Why all of a sudden
is groundwater in play when it never was at the beginning. We were promised that it would never
be a part of this whole situation. There is nothing that they have said that they have stuck to as far
as our neighbors. They are not good neighbors. They don't listen to us. They don't respond to our
questions. Neither does the city. The specialized website hasn't, I've never gotten an answer to any
questions or complaints that I've sent there. We still don't have answers as far as we know
what chemicals are going to be used in this closed loop system. What happens when there's a leak?
What kind of containment is there? What happens for recycling when they have to recharge the
closed loop? Still so many unanswered questions. And I honestly don't think that any of you are
prepared to answer those questions or take steps to approve anything until you have these answers.
So we're asking you once again to pay attention, to think for yourselves,
don't just be vantiges, shills, and to do some research and do what's right for people.
Okay. Thank you. Anyone else have a public comment or appearance?
Hi. I just, Barb Wooten, 4876 Upper Forest Beach Road, town of Port. I just have a question
about the roads, and I don't know if this is the right form, but when
vantiges acquired the property of the roads and they have shut down Highland Road, which is, I guess,
part of their property now, I don't understand why all the trucks have to go all the way around
up Lake Drive or up LL and KW and go across into the various little inlets. Why can't they just use
their Highland Road, which would cut down on the dust, the rocks, the broken windshields, the rocks.
I mean, to me, you know, that's their road. They could route all of those gigantic trucks
through there, and it would make it a lot better for the residents. And that is just the comment
I wanted to make for people to think about. So thank you very much.
Great. Thank you. Are there any other public comments?
Hi, Chris Karnish. Make sure you sign in on it. Okay, thanks.
878 Weiler's Way, Port Washington. I also wanted to address the water situation.
So they put in, you're calling it trailer city, like it's really a cute thing.
Why they put it in when they didn't have any water.
If they weren't going to get water for a year, why would they build their trailer city
in a place where there's no water for them to access? Now they want to tap into the wells,
which is going to affect my wells. I guess I would have encouraged the city to have them,
if they need water, truck it in like they're going to truck out their sewage.
There's absolutely no reason for them to use our aquifer for their trailer city.
And if you approve them doing this, okay, now you get up to Lake Drive and their next phase
is to go up to Dixie Road in east of Highway LL. Are you going to continue to allow them to
just keep tapping into more and more and more wells? Because they won't have water
up to Dixie Road, and they won't have water east of Highway LL, unless they use wells or
truck their water in. So please keep that under consideration. It makes no sense for them to tap
into our aquifer for their poor planning of where they were going to put their trailers.
Thank you.
Great. Thank you. Are there any other public comments or appearances?
I'm Anna Mueller for 488 Lilac Lane, town of Fort Washington.
I live in the town of Fort Washington. My house is a half mile from the data center.
I live in a subdivision of over 30 houses located on the east side of the data center.
Every single house relies on well water from the aquifer.
Since construction started, we have been forgotten, ignored, and abused,
having to deal with the brunt of your decisions on a daily basis.
The very lack of planning and practical logistics in every stage of this construction process is
an every day reminder of your incompetence and lack of control over vantage.
Regarding our water, we have been advised over and over by experts in the industry to get baseline
water testing now. They started $1,000 for comprehensive and accurate testing, and that
can be over $2,500. This is entirely status shot as we have no idea what chemicals will be
introduced into the aquifer by vast land displacement and construction chemicals
leaching. This is concerning and alarming as mercury will be leached from all the cement,
not only in the aquifer, but the runoff in our tributaries and beloved lake.
Where was the impact study? Oh, yeah. It was waived for van itself reporting.
We have been told repeatedly that the data center would use municipal water
which is why you have millions of dollars at 7% interest
so that we would be it would be metered and charged on a daily basis. We thought we were
potentially free from fear of having lowered water pressure that will effectively kill our
appliances and plumbing or lose water completely due to a lowered aquifer deaths. 17 home use wells
were supposed to have been permanently capped on the job site. Water is now being brought in by
service water trucks that hold 4,000 gallons to tamper dust clean equipment and fill the holding
tanks you dug in February for office use. Why are you allowing advantage to jeopardize
another facet of the quality of our lives by allowing them free unmetered access to our aquifer
that we rely on? They said they need 12,000 gallons a day. That's three trucks crossing over
43 to latch on to one of their immediate hydrants and then the city makes some money.
To allow advantage to access any well unmetered is a total betrayal and beyond acceptable.
We will not stop with public comments. Everything you do since I'm only a half mile away from the
data center is monitored and I will amplify it all over the state everywhere I can to tell
them what we are being abused and neglected and ignored and I will use my voice as much as I can
to make sure that everything they do is recorded. Okay thank you. Are there any other public comments
appearances? No seeing none then we will move on to item 4. Consideration and possible action
on well permits for the data center. Okay I will kick it off and then we also of course have Roger
Stromer, city engineer can answer any technical questions and our city attorney is here to answer
any legal questions regarding the permitted needs wells and so in your packet you have the
permits that have been granted by the DNR for the private wells that we're speaking of on
the vantage property this evening and so what staff did in analyzing the well applications that we
received are or to essentially review them in line with our city code which is guided by chapter
4.15 of the municipal code so in paragraph B so that's the I guess the last attachment to
this information packet talking about private wells. The first requirement is that a private
well existed and was in operation before May 19th 2023 and the three wells for which we have
permit applications all were in operation before that date. Prior to the expiration of the then
current permit property owner shall file a written application on a form supplied and filed by
that with the director of public works that was received. The common counsel upon the recommendation
of the Board of Public Works may grant such private well operation permit and so that's
what we're discussing here tonight and such permit shall be for a term of five years throughout
which period the private well and pump shall comply with following conditions.
Well and pump shall meet all requirements for well construction and pump installation under NR 812
Wisconsin administrative code and you'll see on Roger's cover memo the the answer to that is
yes they have that requirement. A well constructors report relating to the private well
and pump shall be on file with the Department of Natural Resources or certification of approval
of the private well and pump has been issued by the Department of Natural Resources so
that is also a yes the Department of Natural Resources has
has the well constructors report. The existing private well shall have a history of producing
safe water and presently produces bacteriologically safe water is evidence by water sample analyzed
by a certified laboratory so those those analyses were conducted by our own water utility lab
and have passed their bacteriological tests. No physical connection shall exist between the
piping of the public water system and the existing private well that is also true.
Fees for the treatment of water from an existing private well that is are likely to be discharged
to a public sewer shall be determined based upon the fees established by this ordinance and so
that again is is true the the discharge of sewage after usage of the water is is being
hauled down to the wastewater plant and they are are to the applicable fees
that are established by other chapters in our municipal code.
And then lastly section F now with standard provisions of this subsection B the owner of
a property which includes any building use for human habitation and served by an existing private
well shall comply with the requirement. Chapter 342-1 of this code relating to compulsory
connection to public water mains use of public water services penalties for failure to comply
after notice and post connection compliance and so what that is saying is once city water is
is constructed to this property that they are required by our city code to make that connection.
There are currently plans out forbid that will be opened on Thursday for construction of that
water main serving that property which is anticipated to be completed sometime next summer and so at
that time when the waters brought constructed out to Lake Drive they would be required to connect
to that water and they would be required to disconnect the well. So they would they would
still have the permit is still good for five years so if they wanted to use it for watering
the lawn or something like that they could but they would not be allowed to use it for any
service for a building of human habitation once water was brought to that property they have
vantage has told us that their intent is to cap the wells upon receiving the water next year.
So if there are any questions the staff recommendation is to
approve is to recommend approval of the permits to the common council.
I guess so we do have meters on them on these wells now right they just the
in our or do we have our own well they are required to to report their usage based on the
meters that are on the wells that they and they installed they reported to the city or just the
in our they are required to they're recorded they are required by the permit to sorry by the DNR
permit to report it to the state annually. The city's permit is not does not have that stipulation.
Sorry go ahead I'm just going to ask do we have any data past metering data as far as how much
water they've been using or currently using right now.
All right we do have some representatives from Vantage here with us tonight I don't know if you
do have the answer to that question you can step up to the microphone.
Good evening the two wells that are in question one at one three seven four lake drive well
since November of 2025 that well has been used for six thousand gallons
the second well which is located at one two three four lake drive has used two thousand four hundred
and twenty one gallons since November 25th 2025 and that is through six thirty of twenty six
so that is the current usage of those two wells which will be connected together serving
the system that will be feeding trailer city.
And do you anticipate that going up to 12,000 gallons a day or is that's that's like the max.
That is a permit code requirement and when you look at the code as far as an office facility that is
engineered for 20 gallons per person per day we are currently well under the allowed it a
lot of amount of people in the trailer. Complex so we are well shy of 12,000 gallons a day
to fill the system we have transported in through pool water tank systems through
brinkman and prairie transportation 29,000 gallons to partially fill the system the other
half came from the city of Port Washington through the hydrant south at 24,000 gallons
so the system is now complete and and hydro statically tested so we are ready to turn it on
when granted permission. Do you know how many wells have been abandoned south of lake drive
just in the general instruction area or footprint of the site from my understanding an approximation
of about 20 wells have been kept.
So I'd like to offer an amendment if that's okay. There's no motion on the board to offer an
amendment to so okay you you could make a motion if you if you so desired.
Question so this is more for our city attorney so we have an agreement with
vantage that we would supply them water should we fail to deny their well grant which may be
moot because they really don't need our permission they have the DNR's permission or am I wrong
about that? The the wells really fall under the DNR's authority and the DNR has granted them
authority to use those wells you're correct in that in the development agreement we have agreed
to provide water to the site if the city were to deny the permits at this point it's arguable
whether or not vantage would still be permitted to use those wells given that the DNR's already
granted them permission. So it's an open-ended question but I think that certainly it's
I think that it's likely that they would already have essentially they're already
granted permission to use those wells. And therefore we would be in default of our
agreement that we develop an agreement. That's correct because essentially we would be denying
something that the DNR has authority over it which we really don't have the authority to do.
Thank you and they then could sue us. Correct we would be liable for any any damages.
For city taxpayers that's not yay.
Can you clarify so my understanding is the DNR issues the well permits this permit is
mostly to avoid cross-contamination from a residence or a property that's tied into a well
and city sewer and water. Right cross-connections yeah and we don't have to worry about that
because there's no city water there.
As far as the monitoring goes somebody had a question about the city
so a vantage will report to the DNR annually but the city can request that we get metering data on
a monthly basis. And how is that going to be handled and what if it is over?
To answer the I guess can we question legally yes we are able to require additional
requirements by vantage such as requiring monthly updates on the meter any requirements would have
to be not arbitrary and reasonably related to the purpose of it which is the permit.
So you'd have to keep that in mind that any requirements would be but that is
legally possible and that Rob handled logistical questions.
Excuse me sir. Excuse me sir. You are not member of the board. Thank you.
So yes if that were if that were a recommendation from the Board of Public Works to the Common
Council it would be legal and reasonable to do so and we have spoken with the advantage and they
are willing of course to provide that information on a monthly basis and if we need to go out there
and check the meters themselves we have the ability to do that as well.
I have one final question so should the vantage fail to be under the minimums as
required by DNR. They would be the official agency that would be the one that would
issue a citation or any other financial or liability they would be the one not the city.
The city would have no ability to in essence punish them for violating the terms of the well.
That's more or less correct since the DNR is the permitting agency they would be the
enforcement authority here theoretically are the city's code requires that all well is permitted
abide by the DNR's administrative code so theoretically they would be in violation of the city code
by violating the DNR's rules and procedures as far as the well goes but the DNR's enforcement
mechanism would be much more stringent than the cities would be on this on this particular topic.
Any other questions or discussion?
So I think this might be for you. So of the 20 or so wells that you've already abandoned in the
area do you have any idea how many gallons per day on average those wells were pumping?
I do not have that data in front of me as far as what the usage were
through those wells at the time that they were active.
I'll just add on to that those those wells are rated 10 to 20 gallons per minute each I
doubt any of them was running 24 7 but um so like that might give you an estimate of how much.
As stated earlier I would guess somewhere on each of them is probably three to 500 gallons a day.
Yeah for domestic use assuming that they're not using them for
there's irrigation of the lawn or anything else. Yeah if they had farming operations with those
wells then that would be all right any other questions or discussion?
If not I will entertain a motion on this matter.
I'd like to make a motion to amend the permit term to 18 months.
So while you're free to make any motion you so choose under city code the city the Board of
Public Works and Common Council does not have authority to issue a permit well or well permit
excuse me for any period other than five years. We can't issue it for 10 years we can't issue it
for one year. City's code strictly limits that the issuance of a well permit is for a period of
precisely five years. All right so we have a motion on the floor unless you want to amend that.
I guess I won't make that motion then.
I withdraw my motion. All right so if there's any other questions or comments otherwise I will
entertain a motion on this matter.
Well I will make I move to recommend the come to the Common Council approval of the well operating
permits. Is there a second? I'll second it. Second by Mr. Brooks. Is there any discussion on the
motion? Seeing none all those in favor say aye aye opposed. We have one no motion carries.
All right that moves us to item five consideration and possible action on awarding
twenty twenty six dash two sidewalk maintenance project.
Roger.
All right we have we bid out our our sidewalk project for this year if you'll recall we had
one earlier this year which was really carry over from twenty five.
Anyway we received two bids on this project both of them are under our budget they they pretty
much straddled our our estimate for the work. The little bidder is somebody we have not worked
with before. I called several the references they two of them responded back to me with very good
references. The remainder I did not the other two did not I did not hear back from.
Anyways with with that in mind as as
little bidder they they are able to provide a bid bond they'll be required to provide
performance and payment bonds with with contract execution with insurance
and their recommendations I recommend awarding the project.
All right your question no I just you you feel good about this.
I guess maybe I shouldn't ask it that way.
It's a little bit and we that's what we should do.
Yes I am.
There's no reason.
There are no bidder to our our our city here too and have not worked otherwise in
Ozarki County to my knowledge but I see no reason to reject them that one
exposes to a liability.
Okay.
Yeah this won't be the first time we've had someone who's not worked in Port Washington or even Ozarki
County before and with okay not kind of wood we've never had a problem.
Okay thank you.
You have you have spoken with other communities who have used them in the past and gotten their
recommendation correct.
Yes like yeah I'm actually very very high praise.
Okay all right any other questions or discussion.
Otherwise we'll entertain a motion on this item.
I'll move to approve the staff recommendation.
We have a motion by Mr.
Sudendorf is there a second?
I'll second.
Second by Alderman Miller.
Any questions on the motion?
Seeing none all those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
That brings us to item six consideration and possible action to install bollards around the
water treatment plant.
Dan.
I'm in a picture quick kick it off before Dan speaks so so some of you on the board I know
we have some new members may recall and honestly I don't know if it was a full two years ago
between a year and two ago we had approved at this board an agreement with the essentially
the paint on port people to to use their services for painting murals and creating
sculptures at the water utility.
We did this essentially before the building was designed so I guess it's more than two years
ago because at the time of design I think our objective was to make sure that we had an attractive
building that was worthy of its location on Lake Michigan.
In my opinion for building a building that has no windows because it's a tank.
I would say that it has turned out to be a fairly attractive building and so we are no longer
pursuing murals on the building at this time.
That's not to say there couldn't be something in the future but we are not pursuing that.
And we are not pursuing sculpture artwork around the building rather than is recommending the use
of essentially what are our planters that he will that he will maintain year round and try to keep
the grounds attractive and his intention is to essentially beautify the area and but also
and the intended end result of protecting our investment from a vehicle either
errantly or intentionally driving up over the curb.
So with that I think I've stalled enough.
It's all set up for you but yep thanks Rob.
These are photos of existing planters that we're looking to purchase that have been purchased and
placed in other scenarios although the color would be different but this is the 4x4
square planter that we would like to put on the terrace ways on the west side of the building
in the south side by the public parking spaces and then the rectangular planters would go against
the west and south portions of the building.
Here's kind of an overview of where each would go.
The purpose of the larger planters on the south side would be to block any potential car from
going over the curb and straight into the tank.
So just for reference this giant rectangular structure is the new Clearwell.
So this entire structure is our finished water tank and then obviously this is
North Lake Street and then the public parking in Newport Shores.
So because we have had vehicles before this was all built we have had vehicles skip the curb and
end up in this property before. We really would like to protect this corner and this tank.
So putting some large concrete planters and being able to beautify the area
throughout the seasons to us would be the best best way forward.
So what we would like to do is purchase the actual concrete planters and they would be delivered.
Staff would unload the planters with our machinery and then staff would be responsible for
installing the planters just similar to the flower planters downtown.
We would have like a four foot concrete base that we would attach each planter to.
So if something did hit the impact wouldn't let the vehicle go through it.
So staff would take care of all the installation hopefully by winter this year.
We are in the process of filling our tank right now for testing and hopefully within the next
month or so we will be using this tank. So it really is important to us to have this protected
as soon as possible.
So would we be working with park and rec to have it planted?
As far as like planting flowers or are you thinking large trees in there or what was your
thought about what objects would be in those? I would say in the short term we would go with
talking with park and rec and they seem to have very lovely flowers put together so we'd work
with them and then it'd be open for you know whatever we thought down the road to change.
And during the winter they would just be empty or would you leave again up to them to think
it's similar to yeah similar to downtown how they kind of change with the seasons is what we would
want to go to. It is considered really windier down there by us so we'd have to keep that in mind.
And they don't the way you have them situated on the photo though they do seem like a car could
get through the middle of them. They'll be measured out so they're exactly yeah so
this is just a rough picture just to show you guys kind of what we're looking at yep okay
and what's the thing on the corner is that a down here yeah that green thing that's a small
electrical box there is a light pole over right here too that X that will act as a a block too
a hindrance yep okay thank you.
So for the planters by the street they're 48 by 48 inch planters how wide is the
distance between the back of curb and the sidewalk roughly there.
I'd be about 12 to 18 inches.
Sorry say that again.
In feet how wide how wide is it currently from the back of
or from the face or whichever this year I'm on lake they're this wider.
This.
Roger says nine feet.
Oh right here this yeah this is about six feet.
Okay so we're yeah okay yeah because I was just considering lateral clearance concerns
in the F 48 by 48 fits in.
Okay I just I figured it would be tight yep yep I just want to point at this out and I've
said this many times we are one of the only water plants around that is not fenced.
So protection is needed.
And like in the pictures you'd be putting trees in the 48 by 48 ones.
That's open for discussion but no not right away we would potentially look at
planting trees between each planter on the south side and potentially on the west side down the road.
Any other questions comments?
Otherwise oh go ahead I guess you guys can figure it out but 48 by 48 without a tree or
something substantial and it seems like a a a big bed to fill with flowers or other stuff but
I trust you guys will do a nice job.
John yeah John and we'll be a great lead.
All right any other questions comments on this item?
If not I will entertain a motion on this item.
I move to approve this staff recommendation.
We have a motion by Alderman Beaster is there a second?
I'll second.
I can buy Alderman Miller.
Any questions on the motion?
Seeing none all those in favor say aye.
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
That brings us to
that brings us to item 7 presentation on Aqua Hawk software to enable customer login to track
and or receive alerts of water usage.
This is a discussion only item.
Okay so this has been a long time coming.
Back in November of 2025 we received approval from GGF and then this board to purchase the
Aqua Hawk system for our customer customer portal to monitor water usage.
The website is now live and we have the link on our web page so this is kind of our kickoff
just to get it out to the public that we are able to sign up.
My intent here is just to go over some basics.
I plan on taking this presentation as well to the council and then we will have other
information on the website as far as how to's and potentially a video that could be
linked to our website is also available on potentially YouTube.
So as of right now the best probably easiest way to get to the customer portal is to go
to the city website and then there's two ways but this is the way I'm going to show you right
now is going to the water utility page and then going to the top left tab monitor water usage
Aqua Hawk and then you can click on the Aqua Hawk for Cityport Washington water utility link
once you do that that takes you to the actual customer facing portal.
So this portal has just the basic information what Aqua Hawk offers to each customer.
Obviously in the top left we want to show that this is free so this doesn't cost
well this doesn't cost customers anything to sign up for we are paying for the service.
And then this is also the same portal you're going to want to go to if you do register and
then you want to sign in otherwise some people can bookmark this so they can go right to this
actual webpage. So if you're going to register you're going to click on the green register tab
on the right here and that's going to take you to this page. To register you're going to need
a valid email address password your first and last name phone number your mailing address and then
you can click how you want to be contacted if you set up any alerts with this system so you can
get an email text message or cell phone or home phone. Once you register you'll see that the
registration was successful then it will prompt you back to the beginning main page that's where
you'll sign in with your email username and then the password you created. Once you do that then
add account is going to pop up so this is where it's specific to you as a customer.
Every customer has their own account number that account number can be found on your utility bill
on the top right corner of the bill the same with your account name.
So the account number and account name and the street and the sorry the service address has to
be entered in here exactly it is appears in the billing system because that's how it's been entered
into the program. So there could possibly be questions of can I login and try to see somebody
else's home usage you definitely would not be able to do that because you don't have their account
number. Once you do that you'll be logged in this is what the basically the customer page looks like
in the top left you'll see that we're using the senior center as an example
but this would be specific to your address or account. In the middle you're going to see a date
says July 1st 2026 to August 31st that is the billing period and then today is bill
today is day 56 of 62 for this billing period. You'll see that the current balance is zero
the bill has been paid if this was after a billing period and bills have been issued you would see
a dollar amount for the bill for the actual bill issued right below it is an estimated bill amount
and what that does it takes the water usage from July 1st to August 31st and estimates what the
bill would be off of the usage for the first 56 days so tomorrow might be something different
if you use more or less water. This is a 30 day snapshot you can zoom in if you want to do 24
hours 48 72 or if you want to zoom out you can go 45 or a full year. This is what a 24 hour day
would look like on the bottom of the the graph is times on the right side of the graph would be
gallons so if you were to look at four o'clock which is a very right bar it's estimated that 15
gallons were used at four o'clock so we read and see CF cubic feet so one cubic foot is 7.48 gallons
so that's how the meters turn over so every seven gallons and 48 7.48 gallons the meter reads
one so two CFs would be 15 gallons so that's why you're seeing 15 intervals 7 15
as I said this estimates the bill so you can click on the estimate bill and then this little graph
pops up it shows you the base charges for say water public fire protection sewer and then
your usage so how many gallons you use then is what determines what the water use and sewer use
so that's how you get your total bill. So a threshold an alert right you can see it says my
thresholds if you click that this is where you have the opportunity to get alerted set your
custom alerts on either a dollar amount for your bill if you want to be alerted say you're a larger
user and you want to be alerted when your bill potentially could reach $500 you could type in
$500 and it would then send you however you clicked get preferenced notified it would send you an
email or a text that your bill is approaching the $500 limit if you want to be notified about
gallons used per hour or per day or per month the the specific amount you would then be alerted so
underwater use thresholds say you wanted to you wanted to know if you used 500 gallons in a day
so you type in 500 and hit apply and then if your household went over 500 gallons you would
receive a text or an email if you wanted to use it to determine if you left like a hose on outside
and do a duration you could do one gallon for eight hours straight at the bottom here that would
give you an alert after eight hours if water had been flowing through the meter so that kind of
helps you determine if something was left on I foresee that one being used the most by people
but again it's up to you however you want to use this to be alerted or if you just want to log in
to see where your water is at for the billing period it's the water you said when you sign in
historical data or is it only going forward from the moment you sign in it is current to your
actual login so the meter is read four times a day every six hours so if you log in just past
the six one of the reads you'll get that exact usage up to that time
but it won't give me last month's billing cycle you can
search as my next slide you can you can search specific dates so for instance it's I don't know
it's hard to read on here but I entered July 1st 2026 and then today because we can't go in the
future I can specifically search those dates so if I wanted to search from January to February
I would type in here and then it could then it would export a file showing you your hourly usage
for that two month period if you wanted so yeah so if you can export through excel into a nice
spreadsheet where it breaks it down hour by hour if wanted for landlords or people who own multiple
houses you can register more than one accounts that you have on your singular login so if you
manage multiple properties you would click the register accounts button and then this just like
how you started it you would add your account count name and service address exactly how
it's on the bill and then you can toggle between each account at your login so this
will be beneficial to the people who own multiple properties in the city to check in on multiple
accounts without having to log in multiple times
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also on the main page there is a link if you click the pay online it takes you to the bsna
home page to pay water bills online if you so choose
and that's it so the very top is the actual link port w i dot aqua hawk dot us slash login
and like I said you can save that specific link as a browser as a favorite on your browser or
just continue to go through the city website to to get into it
does the payment page have a feature where you can set up auto pay um
through bsna you would have to do auto pay so the aqua hawk is just linking you to the bsna site
good say i use auto pay so it works um just note that if you use credit card it does charge you
an extra fee with it so it prefers you a bank link to it
just curious it says 95 percent of the residential meters have been changed out
what are the remaining five percent that just places that are difficult to get to and
in the nicest way yes so we've had multiple attempts to
enter these homes the remaining homes some are empty some have been sold and abandoned
not abandoned but are have been empty and then some just don't answer our letters or door hangers
but we are relentless and we are going to get everyone
so um since the system is now live what percentage of customers do we expect to register
and how we measure whether or not aqua hawk is providing enough benefit to justify fourteen
thousand dollars annually yes so it's going to be hard to tell at first how many customers will sign
up um there's going to be a large portion of the customers who don't know this exists so
it's really on us to get this out there to everybody so that's why i'm going to do my best to
promote this for the next year um and really push it we're going to get some great tools on the
website so people can sign up as easy as possible once they realize how easy and good it is um
if they choose to use it past then that'll be on them um the percentage uh we will work with
aqua hawk they do provide numbers so we can get into the account data to see you know
what percent has actually signed up and is using it
and then um do we have an estimate of how much water loss or property damage could potentially
be prevented because of the system i can't give an actual gallon amount right but i can tell you that
um we have a a weekly um spreadsheet that gets delivered to kim that shows potential leaks and
high usage amounts um through our census system and we've had multiple multiple people not know
that they had a toilet running or left the hose open and we catch that usage in in a seven-day period
sometimes they catch it you know and you get five days of high usage and we contact them and
they're like oh i left a hose on we we know okay but this gives the customer almost you know real
time abilities to catch their own usage sure sure lastly will you be very reporting back to the board
your success rate i guess that wasn't really my last question yeah go ahead um yeah no the plan
is to to come back after six months okay to give a number and then obviously we'll do a year just
to show you know where we're at um but that also will give us the opportunity to promote it more
are you going to go to the library like and one of the other that is a very good uh suggestion
yeah because lots of people are computer illiterate and this would benefit for them yep and the
goal would be to work with tom and reach out to him and see you know what methods work best thank you
any other questions no all right thank you then we'll move on to item eight consideration and
possible action on the proposed valley creek street crossings and bridge treatments
and
oh
that we're trying to get a
little bit of guidance on
of course there's three stream
crossings for Valley Creek.
They go across Northport and
Hales Trail and Lake Street.
And we touched on briefly in
the last six months what those
bridges would look like.
So there's two things we want to
talk about today what the bridges
will look like and what the
and what the street over the top
of the bridges will look like.
So these are essentially bottomless
box culverts.
They're arch culverts I should say.
But they serve as bridges we're
going to build the roadway back
over the top.
The crossing at Northport we are
recommending to keep that crossing
as it is today.
So let me quickly bring that one up.
So here's a crossing at Northport.
The roadway is I believe 40 feet wide.
So I don't have that off the top of my
head 39 feet wide.
So our recommendation is to keep
that with the sidewalk we're
recommending to keep in the location
that it's in now we're recommending
the sidewalk to be on the south side
of Northport going through Antoine
Park.
But that's the recommendation to
simply there was there was no
advantage to narrowing the street.
And so we recommended keeping it
the width that it's at.
Is there any objection to that
recommendation or any need for further
discussion.
We can go back to it if you'd like.
And hails trail.
So this the street crossing is at a
much higher elevation than at
Northport.
And so if we look at the sorry this
is a little bit of a technical
drawing.
So if we look at the street up here
and I'll blow it up a little bit.
So this is a this is an earlier
drawing.
So it has a 15 foot roadway.
But if 15 foot half roadway.
So 30 30 foot roadway from flange
to flange.
So it's if we construct that road
way.
The current roadway is 36 feet wide.
With the recommended.
Colvert.
It's a three to one.
Slope which is pretty steep.
We would consider that the maximum
and we would need a railings here
on the sidewalk to protect people
from tumbling down over the top of
the culvert.
So the recommendation that we're
making as staff is to narrow this
a bit more so that we can have
something a little flatter than
three to one.
And let me go back to the drawing
here.
So here's the way the roadway
exists now.
The recommendation.
Let me go back.
So you can see so we've we've
already narrowed this section of
hills trail to 24 feet wide.
There's of course no parking here.
And so the recommendation to continue
that cross section to the east would
be contingent on continuing to
restrict parking so there'd be no
parking in that area.
So that would allow us again by
tightening up the roadway.
We could have flatter slopes down
to the top of the culvert.
So the only other way to alleviate
from that is to build up the height
of the wall on the end wall.
And so then it would be a lesser
slope as well.
But it's a more expensive bridge.
So shown here are a couple of the
options essentially kicking the
sidewalk in and then back out or
keeping it where it is on both sides.
Our recommendation is just to keep
the sidewalk where it is we would
lower it in elevation.
And so it wouldn't have an impact
on the slope so we could still pull
it away from the curb so the
pedestrian has a feeling of that
separation from the roadway.
And again the reason we had
narrowed the section of roadway to
begin with is we had gotten
complaints because cars in both
directions they're going down
hill.
And so they tend to speed and
pedestrians crossing at the inner
urban felt that it was unsafe
there.
And so that's why we narrowed it
to begin with.
And so that's why we're
recommending to continue to
continue that.
The reports I'm getting that is
not and by my observation not a
heavily parked area and so losing
the parking would not have a big
impact on people who want to
park their cars.
Are there any questions or
comments about the choices that
we have for the roadway?
Sure.
Lowering the road there because
we are going uphill and
up hill to the northeast there
I guess east there or south
depending on how you're
considering this road.
Is there any problem with
keeping under 5% grade to match
the existing sidewalk elevation
or is this still flat enough
that it really doesn't extend
that long of a distance to have
the sidewalk lower than the road
through there?
Oh.
You know, good question.
Yeah, I don't think just from
being out there and extending
the sidewalk as we did on
Hills trail and the work we've
done.
I don't think it's going to have
a big impact on the sag for the
sidewalk.
Okay.
Yeah.
That was your question.
Okay.
I think my question is kind of
the same and I'm just not
understanding it fully.
So rather than kicking the
sidewalk in, like the one sort
of path shows you're going to
keep the sidewalk where it is
but you're lowering the sidewalk
to.
Yeah, the sidewalk would be
lower, would be lower than the
curb.
I see what you're getting at.
You're saying having to walk
downhill and then uphill versus
having to walk in and out?
Yeah, and it also seems kind of
awkward to be lower than the
curb.
Usually your sidewalk is higher
than the curb but it's not
always that way.
It doesn't have to be.
The reason sidewalk is usually
above the curb is because of
snow melt.
I don't know if there's any
other reason.
I guess traffic safety, but I
mean depending on the speed of
that vehicles but otherwise
mostly just for run-off purposes.
Yeah, you just would have to
change the slope of the sidewalk
so it slopes.
Right.
It would slope downward.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How much lower are we talking?
Yeah.
How much lower are we talking?
I don't think we're talking more
than a couple of feet.
Probably not even that much.
Yeah.
If the sidewalk...
I would say pretty minimal.
Yeah, you're right.
It's probably more like a foot.
Lower.
Yeah.
So I don't think you're going to
feel like you're going down
into a major dip.
They haven't...
The design's not that far
advanced but we're not going to
design anything that is
unusual.
If we move the sidewalk in, is
there any potential savings in
the length of the culvert or
because it comes in standard-sized
segments, would it be the same
length?
I think there may be...
Well, if we lower the sidewalk
so that it's on the grade
down from the curb head to the
end wall or to the head wall,
I don't think it should make
much difference in the length
of the culvert.
I mean, that's something
certainly during their final
design process, which is going
to be over the next three weeks.
And they know that we want the
culvert as minimal as possible
because, yeah, it's several
thousand dollars a foot.
And taller head walls are more
costly than the extra length on
the...
Right.
Yeah.
So if there are no
strong opinions, and I'm not
trying to wrap it up.
We're just...
I'm trying to get, yeah,
opinions so that we can make
this so we know that if there's
something that is not liked,
then we won't go that route.
Sorry to cut you off.
No, it's okay.
Are you done, Mike?
Yeah, I'm done.
Yeah, you can.
So, and we talked to police
and fire and they have no
concerns about the past
narrowing of the bridge at...
No, I can't think of hails trails.
They're okay with that.
That's not been an impediment
previously.
No, you know, I only spoke to
Chief Hinges.
I'm sorry.
Chief...
Is there an F key?
And mostly about the parking.
So this is 24 feet wide.
There would be no...
with no parking.
You know, it would actually be
wider than a typical...
Right.
Then a wider street if there were
cars parked on both sides of
the street.
And if you're asking what flavor
we like, I would vote for a field
stone.
Okay.
Yeah, of course.
It's the most expensive,
which would probably be true.
No, they're all about the same.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm done, then.
I really don't mind the
narrowing of the road.
And, you know, I walked by
there two times a day.
And most people park on...
What's the street?
Yeah.
I mean, for the community garden
and people park over there,
it's...
I can't remember the last time
somebody was parked on Hill's
trail on that curving area.
I kind of like that.
I guess my only concern would be
the sidewalks and how that feels.
You know, being lower,
but it sounds like you've got it
handled.
Yeah.
You know, honestly,
and the only thing that I want to
make sure that I bring to your
attention is so, of course,
the inner urban bike trail goes
through here.
And so I'm sure some people use
Hales trails as an access to the
bike.
So, so in our bike bed plan,
this is recommended as what they
call a bike boulevard,
so it's not a dedicated lane,
but it's just an area that people
can feel comfortable riding
their bicycles.
I think there's a trade-off.
A wider street means faster cars,
which means less safe for bikes,
but not, you know, not having a
dedicated area, the presumption is
that is going...
That is going to cause a driver to
slow down if he has to share a
lane with a bicyclist.
So, I mean, that's something to
consider as well, but they have
to go through that narrow section
anyway.
It's just longer.
So, that would probably be...
That would be something to take
into consideration as well.
So, currently there's inlets that
are not...
They don't look like they're over
the culvert, but they come on
either side.
Are we regrading the profile
through there to move them to one
side or the other then?
That's probably more detailed
than what you're concerned with
right now.
That's more of a final design
type detail.
But...
Yeah, we talked about that.
I mean, we've talked about it.
Yeah, the plan was not to have
the on top of the culvert.
Okay.
It's kind of a sag there now,
but would the new profile
tend to be a little bit, I would
guess, the same or higher slightly
than the current road?
Or would we try to come down
a little bit to make the
grading a little bit easier,
which might make more of a weird
low spot.
But right now, are we just
assuming basically the existing
profile?
We're assuming...
Yeah, I think we're assuming the
existing profile.
Because...
I know report it will change a
little bit because right now
I know report the inlets are
over the top of culvert.
So they'll slide off and I think
the little...
the sag will end up being on the
east side of the culvert.
Okay.
Yeah, I...
I guess on here at Hales,
I have no problem with if it
would make sense to bring the
sidewalk in, that's fine with me
or to keep it out and lower it
as long as it works grading-wise
and isn't a problem.
Anyone else?
No?
No.
I think having the sidewalks
further from the street actually
kind of gives it more of a
park-like feel.
I know it's not going to be that
big of a difference anyways,
but it kind of ties it with the
inner urban trail there.
Okay.
And if we're narrowing it
anyways, I mean you're just going
to slow traffic down sooner.
My only concern with having the
narrower road there anyways is
that you are putting bikes and
pedestrians closer to traffic,
but if it's narrowed anyways,
it's irrelevant.
Okay.
I can move on to...
if everyone's okay to move on to
Lake Street.
Yeah.
And then we'll talk about the
treatments.
And so this is
schematic of,
which is in your packet.
So essentially the
current box culvert
ends about here,
and of course goes all the way out
to Lake Michigan.
This would be a much reduced
box culvert we've talked about
in March is when the board
recommended daylighting the
culvert on both ends and
essentially eliminating the
off street parking on the
on the west side of Lake Street
and then replacing it with
parking all along the
street and then in
Veterans Park.
I know there's some concern
coming down the hill.
By my observation being out
there, it looked like there should
be stopping distance for
for a car coming down the hill.
If someone's coming out,
they'd naturally would have to
for any of these,
a car would need to stop if
somebody were pulling out and
taking their time making that
maneuver.
But
floor traffic in this areas,
I would say not a bad thing.
It's a fairly confined area.
And the number of parking spaces
now that are would be on the
street would match the number of
parking spaces that are out there
now.
So this is the recommended
layout and you can see the
sidewalk comes in quite a bit,
but there's really no
preventing that unless you're
to extend the culvert substantially
longer.
My opinion here is this is the one
that I think we probably would
want to feel most bridge like
just because of the park
environment there.
Because having the having a
great slope graded over top of
it with grass that really isn't
cuttable.
I'm not sure how well that
really fits into that park,
which is all, especially on the
east side of the road, all
manicured grass.
So I also don't know.
I didn't have a profile in here
showing how or I should say
profile works.
A profile view showing just how
high the road is compared to
the culvert here.
I'm just saying this might be
the spot where if we were going
to do the extra expensive
having a larger head wall and
the skew, it might make the most
sense here.
It would fit the park a little
better, particularly on the
east side.
I think that's the intention.
Are there any questions about
this?
This is the drawing we've
essentially been looking at each
time we've looked at this.
Then we can go back to it if
you'd like.
So as far as treatments go,
this is a very interesting
scenario.
This is a very generic
schematic of the crossing up at
Hales trail.
So this is the proposed bike
path as you can see.
This one provide the necessary
clearance.
So again, this is just a
schematic.
And I think what this is trying
to represent in terms of stone
and you can do just about anything.
But I had
I should have
it here.
Let me see if I can
see if I can
see it.
Hold on.
Well, the other option that I
was sent is the
here.
Let me pull out of here for a
second.
Find it.
I can.
And download.
This was.
Oh, I did have it on there.
All right.
Oops.
Sorry here.
I'm back up.
Okay.
So this is this is the
treatment that we put on the
on the end wall at
on layer B.
I like the way it turned out
a lot.
So this isn't really anything
under the sun is the option.
So.
But yeah, this is
we can do anything.
So we're not limited to either
this option or even the other three
options that are.
Kind of laid out for us here.
I mean, this one, I guess,
might be the most similar to
to layer B street.
And then there's a field stone.
And.
And.
Kind of a rough sandstone.
It looks like to me.
But.
You can vote for one.
None.
All.
I guess I can't I have an
opinion for the one by down at
Lake Street.
And that is the structures down
there, which are include the
young club building.
The the ban shell, the.
The Legion Hall are all the
Gunther cream city brick.
And something that replicates
that down there, I think, would
fit in with the rest of this of
the environment and would more
give that appearance that it is
that, you know, built, you know,
120 years ago or, you know, I
guess the ban shell is only
one by two years ago.
And so I figured years ago.
Type structure.
Although you could argue a
contrasting type thing might work
better too, but that's just my
opinion would be the consider
like a cream city style looking
brick down there just that it
matches everything.
Not to get into it, but we have
a cream city brick home.
And without any other trim
city brick.
So I think it'll look washed if
we and I love cream city brick
don't get me wrong.
But without something else, it
really is just beige.
Even with the arches.
It's just beige.
All right.
Beige on beige.
Oh, excuse me.
Beige on gray.
Rob, would it be possible to get
photos of these actual
samples?
Yeah.
Ask to weigh in.
I mean, the renderings give us
an idea, but that's a little
different than the actual samples.
Sure.
And then I think we should be
mindful, isn't there going to be
a small pedestrian bridge on the
east side of the water treatment
facility?
Yes.
That should all.
That should be similar.
And we should keep in mind of the
water treatment building that is
there.
Because, you know, you have your
blue, which is lovely with the
cream trim.
It only pops because of the
contrast between the two.
Yeah.
The one at the outfall is going to
won't be a cover like this.
It'll be a bridge that's more
similar to like in Coldock
Park.
Not with the high walls on it,
but a stream bridge that's more
similar to that.
Rest down abutments.
Yeah.
And that one, if it has exposed
abutments, we probably should
keep stylistically that it matches
the other one, too.
Okay.
Okay.
Have we taken this at all to
Park and Rec for to ask their
opinion, particularly down at
Veterans Park since it is in a
park?
Good.
The chair.
The chair would like that.
Okay.
Sure.
I was just going to say
do you remember how we picked
the facade for that wall in
Laribbean?
Was it a public works preference?
Well, it wasn't Parks department.
You weren't here.
I don't remember if we picked it
as a committee or I just picked
it quite honestly.
So.
It was all I can tell you.
I think it looks a lot nicer
back there than they used to.
Yeah.
I don't remember it.
Coming to committee.
So it might have been that you
just picked it, but you made a
good choice there.
Thank you.
I thought it turned off nice.
If we, I mean, if we try to ask
for additional opinions on this,
is this just going to hold this up
too?
And we are kind of on a tight
timetable with the season
anyways?
You know, we're, um, it's
getting a little tighter.
But.
You know.
Are there any want to rule out?
I mean, personally, they're all.
I mean, there's an argument for
all of them, and I don't feel
like holding it up and debating
it is really a valuable use of
our time.
Sure.
You know, because I think they're
all there.
They're all appealing to one
degree or the other and the rest
of it's going to be personal
opinion that everybody that
drives through the city and
everybody that's in the city is
going to have an opinion on.
And we're not going to please
everybody.
You know, so I would rather make
a decision sooner than later on
it personally.
What's your preference?
I'm fine with any of them.
I just personally think the
fieldstone that I have concerns
about it looking a little bit
different.
Just because it looks a little
overdone, maybe.
I like the rectangular cutstone.
I agree with this one here.
Option number three.
That was the first one I
gravitated towards as well.
Yeah.
So we have no consensus for you.
Yeah.
I wouldn't even I'm not sure if
we want to say that we want to
do them all the same or not either
or if like what's we do in the
park is different than what we
do up by Northport and hails.
I think the third one is kind of
an in-between.
I think the third one is kind
of an in-between though of the
first and second one.
And I think it's a compromise
either way.
But again, we can sit here and
talk about it for God knows how
long.
I'm satisfied with either one
honestly, but.
Could we do a prize?
Vote online.
Well, make the boys happy.
We can.
It'll be ready to be installed in
twenty twenty nine.
Yeah.
Right.
Let me.
Let me talk to Stantec and
John Crane and see what our time
table is for their next meeting
and see if if you'd like us to
get an opinion from Parks and
Rec.
We can certainly do.
It's not until October.
Okay.
That might be late.
I'll have to.
I still want Parks and Rec thinking
that we're making a decision for
what their park looks like for
them because we kind of are when
we said this is we're opening up
the culvert and everything.
And we don't get to make
decisions on anything.
So.
But if time if time doesn't allow
it, then yeah, time doesn't allow
it.
So there's none of these that
are so objectionable that you
would want to throw them out if
we.
It doesn't sound like.
Maybe not for the chair, but
for me, there is, but that's
fine.
I guess as long as you know,
it doesn't sound like.
Maybe not for the chair, but
for me, there is, but that's
fine.
I guess as long as the field
stone doesn't look fake when
it's built, and it's really hard
to tell from a rendering, but I've
seen them where they've done them
and they usually look pretty
good when you when you see those.
Especially if you're not if you're
not two inches from it, it looks
better than if you're right up
against them, obviously, but
usually they look pretty good.
Rob, you can kick me under the
table if I'm talking too much.
But just a thought.
We'll choose one so we can get
the design finished.
We can get BID docs out.
I don't believe we have a
bidding schedule for this project
yet.
We're still looking for some
funding.
We'll get we can get things
finished up.
That'll give us time.
We can go to park and rack and if
if they if they have a
recommendation of something
different, I don't think it'll
we can swap it out then in the
final specs.
I agree.
I think it should be easy to
kick the can a little bit on
this decision.
I think the specifications will
be such that you can swap them
out like Rogers
indicating.
If Rogers wrong,
we'll play Roger.
Were you looking for a vote from
us or just a sense of the board?
I think I have an off unless
someone wants to.
I'll make a motion that we
accept the parameters of the
dimensions of the bridge and
specifications with the
exception of perhaps maybe just
the final
beautification of the process.
No, I appreciate that.
Is that appropriate motion?
Sure.
You got it.
Sorry, Madam Secretary.
Is there a second on the motion?
I'll second.
All right.
We have a motion by all the
Roman Miller and a second by
Mr.
Sundorf.
Any discussion on the motion?
Seeing none, all those in favor
say aye.
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
Thank you.
All right.
That should bring us to item
nine consideration and possible
action on a task order from
Strand Associates to improve the
sanitary sewer crossings of
Mineral Springs Creek.
All right.
I'll kick this off and then we
have Phil here from Strand.
He can answer some more
detailed questions for you.
But we have two sewer crossings
on Mineral Springs Creek that
have been exposed by previous
flooding events and we want to
get those crossings protected
before they get completely
undermined.
And then the pipe essentially
acts like a bridge and it's
not structurally designed for
that.
Or a rock or some other large
object gets rolled down the
creek bed into these
sanitary sewers and we end up
with spills in the creek.
We looked at three options.
Armoring the pipe.
Maybe a simple as putting a
larger size pipe over the top of
it or concrete in case it.
And then play it in that
in combination with some work in
the stream bed to create some
riffles and pools to keep the
energy at those locations low
enough that we're not going to
get undercutting or scouring.
We looked at relocating the
sewer line and we looked at
just installing siphons at both
these locations.
You don't know basically a
siphon is just a pipe that
will seg underneath the creek and
then come back up.
Just our preliminary thoughts
is really that we feel that
armoring the pipe and
adjusting the creek bed is going
to be the least cost.
First cost and least cost
long term.
With the caveat is probably the
more expensive one to design
because you have to do some
flood study work which is now
would be typical for any of the
other options.
So I guess our recommendation
here is that we hire Strand to
proceed with armoring the pipe
and I'll kick it over to Phil
here if he's got anything else to
add.
If you have any other additional
questions in the proposal?
I guess I would have to ask
how does this fit in with the
projects the county has been doing
on the creek in recent years and
what they have done here?
We did do a site visit with the
county to talk through what would
be provable to them.
So it fits in fine I guess with
what they're doing.
They have a Hack Ross model
which is a model used for the
evaluating the stream flow
that they will provide to us
that we can essentially build on
for these more upstream
portions of the channel.
So all their work has been
downstream and they have also
have some details and things
that they said they'd share with
us to kind of incorporate into
this design to make it more
uniform.
So we'll continue to coordinate
with them as part of the design
to make sure everything's
done.
Okay.
Any other comments, questions?
Just curious, does the city own
that old railroad bridge that's
east of Park Street?
Is that like where this pipe
crosses?
I don't know the answer.
Do you know that one right off
hand though?
Yes.
It doesn't really matter.
I think it's we energy's right
away.
I don't believe it is.
All right.
How old are the pipes, sewer
pipes?
They've got to be on the
order of 50 years old I would
think.
More like 70.
If we armor it, is there a risk
that we could still have
after a place in the 10 or 15
years?
It'll maybe maybe feel can add
into that, but generally at that
point, if we had it armored and
protected, our next step, if we
felt the pipeline was deteriorating
would be to line it and
essentially that converts it to a
plastic pipe and we'd expect to
get 100-year life out of it.
That's a good idea.
That's a good idea.
I'm sorry.
This includes the area where we
had armored with concrete in the
past.
Correct?
Or has that already been
resolved?
We had essentially poured what
almost made a dam in the
creek there.
That has been resolved with the
county's project.
That's why we're bringing
Strand on to figure it out.
I would want to know if we
didn't do anything for another
year or two, what's the worst that
could happen?
The worst that could happen is
they could continue to lose
material around the pipe and
then the pipe would be
more likely to be able to do it
or not.
That's why we're bringing
Strand on to figure it out.
That's why we're bringing
material around the pipe and
then the pipe would either
break and you'd have sewage
spilling into the creek and
then you'd have to get in there
and repair it in an emergency
situation.
That's probably the worst case
scenario.
If we end up doing something
there as an emergency repair,
the DNR does tend to charge a
price.
That would have to do to
a tone for having done
something it didn't like in the
creek.
And then your pipe's still
going to be exposed because
the stream bed is not going to
raise up during that period.
That was the transfer of
Oakland Avenue Green to the
county and making that in the
prairie was part of what the
DNR demanded as some of the
price for what we had done when
we were able to get into the
stream from there.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we experienced this in
2019, I believe.
So we've had experience with
this type of project before
and the results of ignoring it.
Well, we didn't ignore it.
We didn't know it existed until
the 2018 storm undermined
one of our crossings and we
discovered it, you know,
a year later, essentially.
And so, when we
took action to
protect the pipe, it became a
dam on the creek.
And so, this is, yeah, again,
this is more proactive than
reactive.
So, when that happened, it
called our attention to other
creek crossings that we needed to
examine.
And so, these are deep in the
way that they had been
eroded.
All right.
Any other questions or comments?
Otherwise, so entertain a
motion on this item?
I guess it just feels like a
relatively small investment to
prevent all the really large
much bigger problem in the future.
So, I moved out to city except
the proposal from Strand Associates
to design protection of the
sanitary sewer within the
city.
All right.
We have a motion by
Alderman Beaster.
Is there a second?
I'll second that.
Second by Mr. Brooks.
Any questions on the motion?
Seeing none, all those in favor
say aye.
Aye.
Opposed?
Motion carries.
That brings us to
item 10,
consideration and possible
motion.
All right.
All right.
People have been on the board
for a while.
The spring street interceptor,
that's a project to enlarge
that interceptor to help
alleviate some
basement backups that we
know are occurring now and
also then to facilitate future
growth that will have pipe
capacity.
So, we've attempted this
railroad crossing two times.
The first time we hit what we
believe is the abutment for
the old inner urban railroad
tracks.
This time we hit
some other unknown
obstruction,
despite the fact that we had
gone through and
did some vertical soil
crossings.
We've moved the alignment
as far north as we can.
And we're going to go
horizontal, essentially
through the full road of the
alignment to see if there's
anything in there.
Test drill.
Test drill.
Yeah.
And if that works, then we'll
come back with a full design
of the sewer.
I'm curious, what is this
sentence, this new alignment
as far north as we can push
the sanitary sewer
if an obstruction is found
what exactly is it?
So, we're going to go back
with this new alignment as
far north as we can push
the sanitary sewer if an
obstruction is found.
What exactly does that mean?
What do we get into if we go
further north?
The biggest thing if we go
more north than what we're
proposing is we're off
land that we have reasonable
access to.
That we get in the land
acquisition.
So, we're going to go back
to the
$10,000 change order.
How many test drills does that
get us?
Phil, you have an answer?
That gets us two-thirty
inches apart, which is the
diameter of our casing pipe.
You know,
it's working with the railroad
we thought because we asked
if we hit this, can we slide
over a little bit and do
another one for verification?
And if you do that, they say
no, we need to submit a whole new
plan, a whole new permission.
You know, they don't just let
you go out there and work for
a day and get a ton.
Yeah, and
Union Pacific is not the
most cooperative railroad
to work with.
All right.
Any other questions?
I would move to approve the
staff recommendation.
All right.
We have a motion by
Alderman Beaster. Is there a
second?
Second by Alderman Miller.
Any questions on the motion?
Seeing none, all those in favor
say aye.
Aye. Opposed? Motion carries.
That brings us to item
11,
Consideration and
Aye.
He's the next item.
All right, so we're nearing
completion of the wastewater
treatment plan.
A lot of these change orders
here are clean up.
We have a lot of allowance
items on our contract that
we're now returning back to
us.
And really to kind of just
kind of go through the line
item, everything in the change
order.
I'll have Phil do that as
our construction engineer
and owner's rep.
Okay.
Just step through the
memo here.
So the first item
is electrical conduit
and wiring.
So there's an
electrical conduit and
wiring.
So there's at the treatment
plan.
Does anyone want me to run
through kind of how the
treatment plant works at all
or just run through these
change orders?
Items.
Okay.
So there's the treatment
plant produces digester gas
and that gas is burned in a
waste gas burner.
And as they replaced it,
there was buried electrical
conduit that nobody knew about
right above the pipe.
So that's what the first item
was for is to replace that
conduit because that wasn't
included in the bid itself.
The second items,
there's add spool pieces,
thick and waste-activated
sludge pump piping.
This came up because the
existing, one of the existing
pipes was a through bolt
connection.
So we needed to put on a
spool piece to make that
connection.
And then also the existing
piping was not level or
straight in alignment.
So a stainless steel like
offset fitting was added to
straighten that pipe up.
So with that item was
add supports to elevated
walkway to headworks building.
So some stiffeners were added
to restrict any
sort of swing.
Removal of conduit embedded
in wall, which conflicted with
new door installation.
So a previous change order added
a new door on the second floor.
And when they put the door in
or cut the wall for it,
they found a conduit that
was embedded in the wall.
So that was to replace that
conduit, modify HVC open
enclosure above raw wastewater
pumps.
So there was an existing
openings there that had a exhaust
fan and a loover.
We thought that the loover was
separate from the exhaust fan,
but they were actually attached.
We were planning to use that
loover as kind of a back plate
for a piece of stainless
steel to close that opening up.
But when they demoed it,
they were connected.
They were put in a modified piece
of stainless steel plate
that was more extensive
than what was planned.
That was that cost.
The next one
is a larger one
for the digester.
So the digesters are
these three tanks here
and they have covers on them
that have a coating on them
that wears out over time.
So the part of the project was
to repaint
these covers.
And yeah.
Okay, I have to go in.
Okay.
So the digesters
that required painting
are the larger circle
and then the one to the right of it.
And the contractor
had planned to remove those
with a crane.
But when they brought in
the crane company,
they were concerned
that they were going to crush
some of the sewers that run along
in the entrance road
to the treatment plant,
because they were only two to three feet
deep in spots.
And with the weight of the crane
they were not comfortable doing it.
So they had
to, the contractor
had to sand blast and paint
the two covers in
place.
And that cost was pretty much the same.
The bigger cost was
that they had to do everything
became a confined space now.
So they had to have somebody
on top of those covers
look ready to pull people out
if there was any sort of
space that gas detection
or anything that went off.
So that's what the major cost
for that work
ended up being this
additional 76,000
was for the most part
the confined space
watchdog.
And then there was also
we had an allowance
to do work
inside the attic space.
So these covers are actually a dual deck
and there's an attic space
and then another piece
below that.
So in that attic space
we were unsure of the condition.
So when they opened those up
and inspected them
there were some areas that needed
new painting or
additional steel that was
above and beyond the allowance amount.
So that's also
lumped into this
$76,000
so that makes sense
to everyone.
Next item replaced the
sparking rod and the gas waste
gas burner so that just wore out
and required replacement.
And then the last item
this one already came to you
in a previous change order
is the die store cover
so that's the
bottom of the circular
tanks.
And that cover at some
point
the cover was deflated
so that they could do the work
and when it was deflated
a wind must have caught it and moved
it off, moved the cover
along with
this stairway
and then there's some supports.
It's hard to see but there's a cage
above that cover
and that was damaged in spots.
And that was not planned to be
replaced as part of the project.
It is 35 years old
and it's aluminum so it wasn't
noticeably corroding or anything
like that but because
of the damage to it
it required replacement
and that the previous change order
we had gotten a quote from the
original dome manufacturer
to replace it but
they are out of Canada
and the cost they included
did not include a tariff
and then it also
one of their terms was they wanted
100% payment up front
without any delivery
of any material, any shop drawings
or anything.
So the contractor was uncomfortable
that city staff were uncomfortable
that I was uncomfortable
that so we reached out to other
dome manufacturers
who we've worked with in the past
and the contractors worked with
and we got quotes from them
in higher than
the original manufacturers but
they have the typical payment
terms that were more custom to
so that's what that item is
and then I think it's
also an insurance claim
just due to the nature
of what happened
any questions on that item
and then the last item is just
credits for unused allowances
so these are
most of the remaining changes
there are a couple outstanding
changes on here that the contractors
got pricing for and a couple of
outstanding allowances that they
haven't given us final
invoices for but
those items are all pretty small
so that the final change order
is expected to be under
$10,000 for everything
so
just kind of a financial
and we're with this change
order and
I guess the remaining
outstanding items we expect to be
underneath our five percent
contingency amount that that we
received
on our DNR loan for the project
all right are there any
questions or comments
if not
I will entertain a motion
on this item
I move to approve the staff
recommendation
we have motion by Alderman Beaster
is there a second?
I'll second
second by Mr. Sudendorf
any discussion on the motion
seeing none all those in favor say
aye aye opposed
motion carries
all right thank you
that brings us to item
12 consideration and possible
action on construction change
order six at the water
treatment plant
all right so
just like the waste water
change order we just went through
we have
a project engineer for
from SCH on the phone
he's going to help kind of
go over these change orders and
answer any questions that we can't
Brad are you on?
I am can you folks hear me?
yep we can hear you
all right thanks thanks for having
me tonight
do you want do you have
anything more to say or do you want me to
lead him?
you can lead in just so you know I have a
a slide show going so yeah
I can see it it's a
nice looking building it is
so this is
our sixth change order
that we are looking to process
um there are
ten items on it
there are
as far as construction progress
goes we are
in the process of
working to start up plant
one as well as
the new clear well
and equalization basins
on the southern side of the
plant the far the far right side
that addition down there we're in the
process of getting those pieces
online
but as we've been going
you folks are all aware
as we've been going we have been
finding things
in the building
our thoughts
have changed slightly on a couple of
things and we're looking to
bring some of these two folks here tonight
so ten items
here first
some additional some
roof drainage
to drain
additional portions of
the plant to below grade
piping or a blow
grade storm so after the
flood
gotcha
a little while ago now but after
that we have been looking to improve
how the building drains
so this ties some of the roof drains
into
below grade storms
or we've brought pieces of this
to you folks previously
um and
we are of the belief
that this is the last one here
uh second item
the door from the plant operator
space to the
uh plant one
pump room mezzanine
we change how the door
swung
um and the as bid
it was a solid
door no light kit
added a light kit
made it a bit more operator-friendly
in in that
regard if you haven't been over
there that room is
night and day difference from what
it was four years ago a much
better place for staff to work
uh item number three
there are several pieces
uh of this
this is uh the last of
kind of the T&M processes that
we had with august winter
uh the process mechanical
subcontractor to
cd smith um there is a
boiler room drain
an ejector set that uh was
replaced
improved
um the installation of
a new chemical feed system
and some field coordination
of some pipe relocations
uh small
pipe pieces
that need to be relocated
for electrical runs
and things like that
um
item four
um
uh we also see here a
uh bulk sales
flow meter uh some work
to incorporate flow meter
into here this would go towards a bulk
sale uh point of sale
uh type device where
uh customers
could come and
make bulk sale purchases
and have it be metered
uh through an implant
flow meter
um
um on the northern
side of the plant
uh adjacent to the park
there we had a bit of uh
underground utilities
that traveled a bit outside
of the limits of disturbance
a bit of curb restoration
and then here is
a new curb cut
for access to the generator
on the north side of the plant
so if you recall historically
the plant has never had a
generator this generator has been
online for a couple of years
now I want to say it went
online
late 24 early
25 time frame
provides emergency power for the
entire plant this
improves
vehicle access
for maintenance of the generator
for refueling things like that
it keeps fuel trucks off the street
it keeps fuel trucks and maintenance
trucks from having to out the curb
so overall improved site access
there
um oddly enough
when we go in and start up
new systems old systems
keep failing on us
so flow meters
existing raw water flow meters
in plant one
as we went to start up our
new pumps in plant one
the raw water flow meters
that's a fairly key piece of
infrastructure here at the water
plant so we
looked to
replace those flow meters for
accurate flow metering
flow reading capabilities
from our other raw water pump
so this is
item 68 is for raw water flow meters
in plant one and plant two
meter flow to both plants
item seven is some additional
controls for backwash
flow control
so we're at an interim point where we don't have
a new backwash pump online
that pump will live in plant two
there's two of those
but as we're looking to start up
plant one
we need a way to
meter flow in the
in the interim
so this gives some additional controls
to backwash
supply valves in the plant one
and plant two pipe galleries
it helps us out in the short term
allowing plant one to come online
before some of our new pumps
are ready to come online
and it also greatly improves
the redundancy
in the backwashing system
backwashing is
one of the more critical pieces
of water plant operations
if we don't have that our filters
eventually just stop working
so having the improved
reliability and improved redundancy
on there
is an added long-term benefit
in addition to
advancing some of the work now
item nine is
some additional HVAC changes
on the last
change order four or change order five
that we brought to you folks
I might recall which one
but we made some changes
to the garage
in plant two
to the chlorine room there
and what you see here is we split the
the old chlorine room
we split it into two pieces
there were HVAC pieces
a part of that that was sent to the contractor
and
they were missed
in the pricing so it's
being approached
now versus in the last
change orders it was
just generally missed
all around in that pricing
the last item here is item number
ten as we put water back
into the plant one filters
we realized
some leaks in the
concrete wall so we
approached that
via some
chemical crack injection methods
pumping in a chemical
grout that hardens upon
contact with water to seal up
wall leaks in the concrete
historically the pipe galleries
were all the filter face piping
and valves are historically these
have been
much too wet to know
that these were there
I think the prevailing thought is
these have probably been there
for a number of years and
we weren't able to know just because
of the condition of what that room
and space used to be
now that that room is looking a lot nicer
a lot cleaner
we are starting to see some of these
leaks and realize
that they're there
and really just look to address them
as they come up
this is for plant one
address
anything in plant two plan to a
similar point where it's still just a
little bit too wet not quite to the
state that we can really look to realize
or understand if there's anything
there that needs to be addressed
we have spent
a good chunk
of the last
month or two assisting
contractor
staff with
sequencing through the project
in an effort to
well we all want to get out of the
plant and add that plant at
its full functioning capacity there's
certainly ongoing demands
of the water system
that weren't there two years ago
when the project started right so
anything we can do to
bring the plant online faster
is beneficial so
myself
SCH staff and city water
staff along with
Dan and plant staff
had been working with
CD Smith August winter the
electrical sub
J Miller the electrical
subcontractor on this project to see
where
one helped them understand how we can
move through the plant
while maintaining plant operations
what pieces can come online now
what pieces need to come online in a
bit when we can pull things off
and then
really to press them to understand
okay we have a lot of work that will
be happening in plant two
how many people can you have on
site there's a lot of places that
you can work simultaneously
how many places
how many crews can you bring on
site to do that
so this is the
schedule that Dan has here
and I believe was in the board
packet is the latest
through
plant one coming online
plant two coming offline
and the improvements in
plant two pumping
coagulation, flacculation,
some chem feeds
and the real big piece is
the filter rebuilds
those are all fairly
simple
in terms of sequencing the pumping
and piping is where it gets a bit
more complex and that's what we've
been working through with them
any questions on those
I guess on item
68
for the flow meter
I assume the old one was ancient but
do you have a sense of like what the
warranty on the new one is?
we can follow up with
that the project has an overall
in one year
workmanship warranty
typical
warranties are
I'm one year from startup
on these types of devices
the old meter
the meter that we pulled from
plant one was a
very venturi flow meter so everything
that we've been putting in the plant
are you see it on the right that's called
a magnetic flow meter
it's the modern
kind of
larger style meter
now what like you'd see in your home
but what you have
well in process
piping right basically
4-inch and up flow meters are this new
style the old flow meters
worked on like pressure loss
they were accurate if they were
maintained but folks who know how to
maintain and calibrate them are
are running out
and it was just an antiquated system that
failed when we started it up
these meters are tested annually as well
thank you
any other questions
if there are no questions
well versus this
this has all been kind of presented to us
before
at least it was in the common console
packet a few months back
correct as part of the
yes yes so nothing here is on it
really unexpected at this point we've
been made aware of this in the past
all right
so I will entertain a motion
on this item
or I'll make the motion
I move to approve the staff
recommendation
is there a second
second by Alderman Miller
any questions on the motion
seeing none
all those in favor say aye
aye opposed
the motion carries
all right
that should bring us to
item 13
review staff monthly reports
okay
it's been a long meeting so I won't
spend too much time on these
I'll answer questions
if anyone has questions
but some
great work by
our division heads again
putting these in
and
and
and hopefully
you find them
also to be informative
under my report
for public works I've
I've listed out
this this isn't
entirely inclusive but a pretty good
representation
of the the number of projects that
Roger and I are working on
together
and just a couple
of highlights from it
the on the second page
the utility extensions
on KW and Lake Drive
actually
it's the bottom of the first page in the top of the second page but
there'll be two projects
for which we'll have the bid opening
this week on Thursday
and then those will be brought to
Board of Public Works at our next meeting which is September 8th
and then
skipping down a bit
Pear Street landing and I'm guessing most of you have noticed that they've
broke ground and
and
have the foundation
completely dug but they're making great progress
and the sidewalk is closed
and the signage is up but they
anticipate you know completion
around this time next year
and the
police and fireblock redevelopment
the closing on that property
is scheduled for September 30th
the highway
just keeping back up to the
top highway or
on the first page highway 33
that paving is still
scheduled to be completed in September
they're working on
still on on curb and
and the city is
paying for
two turn lanes to be installed
one for the police and fire building
and one for the Shannon farm
across from
Sweetwater Boulevard
and speaking of the police and fire building
that of course is now occupied
by our police and fire departments
and
I expect
close out of that project sometime in
October and it's also when
the
when the grand opening will be
or the I should say that
ribbon cutting and open house
I don't know if there's any questions about any of the projects there's a lot of them there
number of them we touched on tonight
just that the
buildings that the fire and the police are in
are they're hosting a sale of
unused old equipment
and so
those buildings are
not yet cleared out completely
correct correct yeah
do we know when that
is going to happen that sale
or is it completely online
I think it is known but I don't
I don't know I don't have that you know
Joe DeBore is
it's something like
September 18-23
or something and I think it is just
online that you would bid is my
understanding
right so there's the opportunity
for the public to
I left over chairs, tables, desks
so yeah
any other questions about any
of the items under
reports and then Roger
has a quick report
you may have noticed there's
some work going on for traffic
control up by the
exit 100 interchange
yeah so
you can see the lights are all strong
and everything's powered
the new lights are having
an issue communicating with
the old lights
our lights
the lights that we own
so that they're working through
that process and they expect in
about a week so like September
2nd September 3rd that
that all those signals will be
talking to each other and
communicating and operational
I presume we have a fairly old
controller in there at this point
say it again I assume our
controller is fairly old by
the standards of what they're doing
that's the problem it's our
controller and we actually do have
plans to upgrade our
signals but at this point in time
I kind of want to see if we can
fit that in during a little
traffic period that
Vantage has or if they know about
or certainly not during a peak
traffic problem so
and then we'll change from
induction loop detection on our
signals to cameras
not flock cameras just
regular old cameras
Alright any other questions?
The railroad is closing a couple
of the crossings for maintenance
do we know exactly what
they're doing there
or because I saw
maritime drive is closed
this week Oakland is going to be
closed next week
I would assume it's the
both the same for both but they
said they're doing a full
rebuild of the crossing
because I had asked about
bicycle passage on Oakland and
they'll have to set up a detour
route for the inner urban
because of that but
they're also planning
work on the KW crossing
up by Dixie Road
so not in our jurisdiction
but if you're driving KW
that's another
barrier I guess
hard to imagine
being proactive on a
crossing
they must be trying to get
favor for a merger or
something
Alright anyone else have any
questions?
No
then that will move us to
Chairman's business I do not
have any so item 15 members
liaison's business
Any members of any business?
I'll just throw one other item
out that we had a meeting with
some vantage staff this morning
and they plan on having
a community events
open house
open house wasn't the term they
used but on September 10th
that inventors
so unfortunately a lot of people
left but hopefully there's people
still listening online
if you have questions for
them
if you have any questions
you need to talk to them
Alright any other members
business? Seeing none
our next meeting is
September 8th 2026
at 530
I will be out of town
so Nick will have to take
charge and wrangle the meeting
so I'll bring
item 17 adjournment
we have a motion to adjourn
motion by
Alderman Miller as 0-2
2nd
All those in favor say aye
Opposed?
We are adjourned