WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:15.000 Okay, let's call our meeting to order for Wednesday, August 12th, 2026, police and fire commission roll call members present except for Dan Becker who's absent and excused. 00:15.000 --> 00:20.000 Are there any public appearances comments or correspondence. 00:20.000 --> 00:25.000 Okay, you're in none. 00:26.000 --> 00:28.000 As far as my comments. 00:28.000 --> 00:49.000 Just one thing I had a long conversation today with a resident Mike Keller who's concerned about the bikes in the city and thinks we maybe want to look at some more either regulations or ordinances or education. 00:49.000 --> 01:06.000 I have to admit I'm more a fan of education than enforcement, but he seems to be a proud. He seems to think there's a problem with e bikes motor scooters hoverboards those type of things. And I think it's something we may want to address. 01:06.000 --> 01:22.000 So I just like to challenge the police department to come perhaps in September with some ideas how we can move forward on that or suggestions other communities have found to be helpful. 01:22.000 --> 01:26.000 Okay, that's it for my comments. 01:27.000 --> 01:28.000 Yes, sir. 01:28.000 --> 01:30.000 Yes, go ahead. 01:30.000 --> 01:37.000 I just want to be sure our current bike helmet law applies to any of these bike classifications true. 01:37.000 --> 01:46.000 Yes, thank you. 01:46.000 --> 01:47.000 Right. 01:47.000 --> 01:51.000 Okay, thank you. 01:52.000 --> 01:57.000 Okay, we can move on then to a review of the minutes from our June 17th meeting. 01:57.000 --> 02:02.000 Is there any corrections or. 02:02.000 --> 02:11.000 Or comments to be made on that. 02:11.000 --> 02:18.000 Hearing none, is there a motion to accept those minutes from the June 17th meeting. 02:19.000 --> 02:21.000 Motion and second, all in favor. 02:21.000 --> 02:23.000 Hi, posed. 02:23.000 --> 02:26.000 Okay, those pass. 02:26.000 --> 02:38.000 Okay, then it's always the fun part here recognition of service anniversaries and quite a few this month in the police department. We have Taylor Russell with 10 years of service. 02:39.000 --> 02:41.000 Jason Bergen, 25 years of service. 02:41.000 --> 02:44.000 Jordan Cook, nine years. 02:44.000 --> 02:47.000 Gatelyn Volm, four years. 02:47.000 --> 02:50.000 Jacob Zagowski, four years. 02:50.000 --> 02:53.000 And then over at the fire department, we have. 02:53.000 --> 02:55.000 Jacob. 02:55.000 --> 02:59.000 Oh, dwarf with five years of service. 02:59.000 --> 03:02.000 Eric IBS, 27 years. 03:02.000 --> 03:05.000 Nick Gilbank with three years. 03:05.000 --> 03:07.000 Rick Colchen, 20 years. 03:08.000 --> 03:12.000 Olsen, Melinda with four years. 03:12.000 --> 03:16.000 And Jeff teaching with 40 years of service. 03:16.000 --> 03:18.000 As always, the PFC. 03:18.000 --> 03:24.000 Thanks them and wants them to understand the community appreciates their efforts. 03:24.000 --> 03:27.000 And chief, did you want to say something. 03:27.000 --> 03:36.000 So tonight, one of our officers. 03:37.000 --> 03:44.000 Jason Bergen, who has reached the 25 year milestone with our department is here tonight with some family. 03:44.000 --> 03:52.000 Because he reached the 25 years, we have a little gift for him in a very nice gift bag. And I didn't wrap it. 03:52.000 --> 03:57.000 Because first of all, I'm not good at it. And all I had was Christmas paper. So. 03:57.000 --> 04:01.000 We got a little something for you, but before we give that to him. 04:01.000 --> 04:06.000 Let's say a couple of things about Jason. First off, I still remember field training. 04:06.000 --> 04:11.000 Jason 25 years ago, we were both a lot younger and had a lot less gray hair. 04:11.000 --> 04:14.000 But he's done a great job for us ever since. 04:14.000 --> 04:19.000 Some of the things that he's done has been as a bike patrol officer. 04:19.000 --> 04:21.000 He's currently our SRO. 04:21.000 --> 04:28.000 He's been on the honor guard for the department and he's gotten special training in clan lab cleanup. 04:28.000 --> 04:37.000 So sometimes assist other agencies, if they have like a meth lab, things like that, which is a little bit more complicated than your normal call. 04:37.000 --> 04:42.000 So if Jason would come up, I'll present him with his gift. 04:42.000 --> 04:46.000 And your gift bag. 04:46.000 --> 04:51.000 Yes, congratulations. Thank you for your 25 years. Do you want to. 04:52.000 --> 05:00.000 Yeah, with me tonight, I'm very lucky I have my wife Liz. Go to the microphone, please. 05:00.000 --> 05:06.000 I have my wife Liz sitting over here with us. And then our children JJ. 05:06.000 --> 05:11.000 From right to the left, we have Bella and Grant way on the end. 05:11.000 --> 05:15.000 So, yeah. And I have a daughter who's at Creighton University. So. 05:15.000 --> 05:18.000 She's starting her junior year. So. 05:18.000 --> 05:25.000 Thank you very much for your service. Thank you. Just one question. What has changed in 25 years at the police department. 05:25.000 --> 05:30.000 The easy one. We're getting a new building. Hey, no. 05:30.000 --> 05:33.000 Starting out with no computers in the squad car. 05:33.000 --> 05:36.000 To now we're like to the point where where do I sit. 05:36.000 --> 05:41.000 It's almost like a cockpit where we're getting there tight. We got everything that we need. 05:41.000 --> 05:48.000 Police has changed. Yeah. In the 25 years. It has gone fast and. 05:48.000 --> 05:55.000 Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't change the path at all. So I'm proud. It's great city to work for. So thank you. 05:55.000 --> 06:00.000 Thank you. And thanks for being here. You guys. 06:00.000 --> 06:07.000 Mr Chairman, only 25 more years to go. 06:07.000 --> 06:13.000 I'd like to make a comment. Yeah, I just wanted to add my thanks to Officer Bergen. Thank you so much for your service to our community. 06:13.000 --> 06:18.000 And as you know, better than anybody, no one serves alone. So thank you to the family as well. 06:18.000 --> 06:25.000 I know it's difficult to say goodbye to your husband and your father each morning and pray that they come home safely. 06:25.000 --> 06:34.000 But Jason's done a phenomenal job for us and we appreciate your service and that of your families. Thank you. 06:35.000 --> 06:40.000 Okay. Any other comments? Okay, then we can move on. 06:40.000 --> 06:49.000 So we'll start with the police department tonight and let's review and discuss June and July bills. 06:49.000 --> 06:53.000 Any commissioners have questions about the. 06:53.000 --> 06:57.000 The bills for June and July. 06:58.000 --> 07:02.000 Yes, I had a question. I did address it. 07:02.000 --> 07:12.000 Through the city a little earlier today, but I had a question on the July invoices for the we energies, 07:12.000 --> 07:22.000 specifically to the public safety building, because I believe it is still considered under project and that should be going to the project coordinator. 07:23.000 --> 07:31.000 In reaching out to Rob VanderNova, I did get an email back. 07:31.000 --> 07:39.000 The we energies charges should have been made to the project, not to PD. He will get that reclassified. 07:39.000 --> 07:47.000 And then moving forward, we energies charges will be split between PD and FD. 07:47.000 --> 07:53.000 And we'd question the parking lot lights, which again, they'll they're working on. 07:53.000 --> 08:04.000 We hope they are because they have been on 24 seven since they installed them. So that's where that's where my question started originally when I sent it to Rob. 08:04.000 --> 08:12.000 And as I explained earlier, that's a building automation issue and they're still working the kinks out of that. 08:12.000 --> 08:15.000 Thank you. 08:15.000 --> 08:23.000 Any other questions or comments about the invoices at the police department? 08:23.000 --> 08:24.000 Okay. 08:24.000 --> 08:30.000 Hearing none, let's move along to the budget. 08:30.000 --> 08:40.000 And. 08:40.000 --> 08:44.000 This is the second quarter budget. Any questions on that? 08:44.000 --> 08:46.000 Yes, Mr. Chairman. Yes. 08:46.000 --> 08:52.000 So if I'm reading this correctly, we're at 77% of overtime wages. 08:52.000 --> 08:58.000 Probably. Yes. So a couple of questions on that chief. 08:58.000 --> 09:07.000 If I just want to be sure I'm reading this correctly, if that were to continue, we'd be at 140 154% here. 09:07.000 --> 09:10.000 Yes, this isn't like a pro rated door. Okay. 09:11.000 --> 09:13.000 And. 09:13.000 --> 09:18.000 This seems like, and I know it's not your issue, but it just seems like. 09:18.000 --> 09:21.000 Every year we're over on overtime wages. 09:21.000 --> 09:28.000 Is as we approach budget time and including our meeting this Friday, is this something we go to the city with and say, where are we kidding? 09:28.000 --> 09:32.000 Every year, every year we go over when they like to know the real number or. 09:32.000 --> 09:37.000 I don't want to get into the weeds on the political process here, but is it just. 09:38.000 --> 09:42.000 I mean, are we in denial? It's over every year. We know it's going to be over. Why don't we just budget it? 09:42.000 --> 09:47.000 They, they are aware of that also based on the meetings I've had with the city. 09:47.000 --> 09:49.000 Yeah. So plenty of smart people. They know. 09:49.000 --> 09:52.000 They're aware that we're going to go over now. Some of that. 09:52.000 --> 09:57.000 I mean, the overtime budget fluctuates from your dear based on number of things. 09:57.000 --> 10:05.000 Last year, the year before was particularly bad. I wasn't a chief then, but I can make an educated guess based on my position and what I know. 10:05.000 --> 10:11.000 Because we were three officers short, you know, for a good portion of that, that year. 10:11.000 --> 10:23.000 This year, I'm not sure exactly why we're over as much as we are, but typically the beginning of the year tends to be and particularly the summer tends to be a little bit worse. 10:23.000 --> 10:24.000 A lot of festivals. 10:24.000 --> 10:32.000 Yeah, festivals, vacation time. And when we're at minimum staffing, it only takes one person then to call in sick or have some other issue. 10:33.000 --> 10:46.000 Paternity leave, whatever it happens to be. And then we're back filling shifts and that's where you get a lot of the overtime. And, you know, some of this, for instance, I don't remember exactly how many hours we had. 10:46.000 --> 10:54.000 Because of fish day, but that'll be reimbursed by fish day. So, I mean, some of those, some of those hours aren't necessarily. 10:55.000 --> 10:58.000 Are overtime costs. It's somebody else's. 10:58.000 --> 11:04.000 Is there a number you can attribute to the vantage data center? 11:04.000 --> 11:08.000 Vantage really hasn't aside from. 11:08.000 --> 11:09.000 Issues. 11:09.000 --> 11:17.000 And now that you mentioned that that's probably where a lot of this came from, you know, having extra security for council meetings. 11:18.000 --> 11:22.000 If you want to attribute that to them, that's, I guess that's fair, but vantage. 11:22.000 --> 11:25.000 The data center itself has not caused us. 11:25.000 --> 11:29.000 A lot of overtime issues are main calls up there. 11:29.000 --> 11:38.000 Because you've got a couple thousand people all who have cell phones that are moving around. Our main calls up there are cell phone 911. 11:39.000 --> 11:45.000 There have been some traffic issues and they're kind of getting split between us and the sheriff's department. 11:45.000 --> 11:50.000 And mostly that's, you know, sloppy roads because of mud and stuff like that. 11:50.000 --> 11:58.000 And when there's a request for additional traffic support there, I know that I'm pretty sure that the sheriff gets reimbursed by vantage. 11:58.000 --> 12:02.000 Is that something we get reimbursed for? Do we just not do it? 12:02.000 --> 12:09.000 We have not been doing it because, frankly, we don't have the personnel that are interested in coming in on a concert. 12:09.000 --> 12:15.000 I can't, I can't staff somebody there on a consistent basis to help out with the traffic direction. 12:15.000 --> 12:23.000 Now that traffic direction is going to change a little bit in the near future because, as you may have noticed, the traffic lights that were approved. 12:23.000 --> 12:28.000 Well, earlier in the year, they have finally been getting put up by DOT. 12:28.000 --> 12:31.000 So those traffic lights are going to kind of take the place of some of that traffic direction. 12:31.000 --> 12:37.000 Okay. And is that kind of, if we were to do it, do you see it as kind of a break-even as opposed to a revenue generator? 12:37.000 --> 12:38.000 It would be a break-even. 12:38.000 --> 12:42.000 It was a break-even. So more work for you, but break-even for the budget. 12:42.000 --> 12:45.000 Yeah, we can't really charge them for profit. 12:45.000 --> 12:46.000 Okay. 12:46.000 --> 12:47.000 Take your profits. 12:47.000 --> 12:49.000 Thank you. 12:49.000 --> 12:53.000 Okay. Any other questions about the budget? 12:53.000 --> 12:57.000 Do you contemplate more training happening during the year? 12:57.000 --> 13:02.000 Because I see we're already hit a percent of half of the year. 13:02.000 --> 13:07.000 Any specialized training probably will get turned down for the rest of the year because of that. 13:07.000 --> 13:11.000 However, there is mandatory training that we still have to do this fall. 13:11.000 --> 13:19.000 And that consists of our in-service training, which really, 13:19.000 --> 13:27.000 we try to schedule on officers' regular days on so we don't incur overtime from that. 13:27.000 --> 13:34.000 And currently we're using WCTC, which is a pretty good bargain deal for us because they provide a day's worth of training. 13:34.000 --> 13:37.000 I think it's like $35 an officer. 13:37.000 --> 13:42.000 So that really isn't a huge hit to the training budget, but that's, 13:42.000 --> 13:46.000 that training will be necessary for the rest of the year. 13:46.000 --> 13:53.000 Does that number of $35 an officer get attributed to the training budget? 13:53.000 --> 13:55.000 Do you know? 13:55.000 --> 13:56.000 It does. All right. 13:56.000 --> 13:59.000 I got to look to my, my budget person. 13:59.000 --> 14:03.000 Yes. Yes. That's where it goes. 14:03.000 --> 14:05.000 Thank you. 14:05.000 --> 14:11.000 And just again, following up with the percentages. 14:11.000 --> 14:15.000 Question with the maintenance contracts. 14:15.000 --> 14:18.000 So those obviously are on the old facility. 14:18.000 --> 14:23.000 Yes. 14:23.000 --> 14:29.000 And we continue, you know, they stay coming out of your budget even when you're moved into the new place. 14:29.000 --> 14:34.000 We have to look at what the maintenance contracts will be for the new place and, 14:34.000 --> 14:38.000 and work that into the 27 budget. 14:39.000 --> 14:46.000 Okay. 14:46.000 --> 14:48.000 That's good to know. 14:48.000 --> 14:49.000 Okay. 14:49.000 --> 14:52.000 And obviously the vehicle maintenance we can't do much about. 14:52.000 --> 14:56.000 No, we can't. And it's, um, yeah, that's, I mean, that's up there too. 14:56.000 --> 14:58.000 Yeah, that's at 91. 14:58.000 --> 15:05.000 And I've discussed this already with the finance director and essentially we didn't get to new cars this year. 15:06.000 --> 15:11.000 And so our primary cars are that much older and needing that much more maintenance. 15:11.000 --> 15:14.000 And I told him, I don't really expect that that's going to change. 15:14.000 --> 15:18.000 Anytime this year, because they just continue to accumulate miles. 15:18.000 --> 15:24.000 So I anticipate that'll get better next year when we can replace those cars and then have some newer. 15:24.000 --> 15:28.000 Pressure of vehicles in the fleet. So. 15:28.000 --> 15:31.000 Thank you. 15:31.000 --> 15:33.000 Any other questions? 15:34.000 --> 15:35.000 Okay. 15:35.000 --> 15:36.000 Okay. 15:36.000 --> 15:40.000 Hearing none, then we'll move on to municipal court statements. 15:40.000 --> 15:43.000 Calls for service. I'm sorry. 15:43.000 --> 15:46.000 Oh, my bad. Okay. I'm just looking at the flow here. 15:46.000 --> 15:50.000 Yep. Municipal court statements and. 15:50.000 --> 15:56.000 Any questions there? 15:56.000 --> 15:58.000 Hearing none. 15:59.000 --> 16:02.000 Then we can move on to calls for service. 16:02.000 --> 16:06.000 And we have both June and July's calls for service. 16:06.000 --> 16:08.000 Any questions there? 16:08.000 --> 16:11.000 Mr. Chairman, quick question for the chief chief. 16:11.000 --> 16:15.000 I don't mean to put you on the spot. So feel free to answer this when we meet on Friday or whatever. 16:15.000 --> 16:20.000 But wastewater treatment plant calls. What are those? 16:21.000 --> 16:29.000 So ever since I've started wastewater has got somebody in the building 24 7 365. 16:29.000 --> 16:36.000 Dispatch makes a call about every hour after about 10 p.m. till about 6 a.m. 16:36.000 --> 16:41.000 To check on that person to make sure that they're okay. 16:41.000 --> 16:43.000 That's important. Yeah. 16:43.000 --> 16:47.000 So they must be creating some calls for that. 16:47.000 --> 16:50.000 So they're not incidents per se. They're just businesses. 16:50.000 --> 16:52.000 They're basically a well fair check. 16:52.000 --> 16:57.000 And we've done ever since we had our own dispatches. We call every hour to make sure that that person is answering, 16:57.000 --> 17:02.000 not that they've fallen into something or have some other move or some other problem. 17:02.000 --> 17:06.000 So beautiful. Thank you. 17:06.000 --> 17:12.000 Any other questions on calls for service? 17:12.000 --> 17:14.000 Hearing none. 17:14.000 --> 17:21.000 And one last thing is the Wisconsin information based reporting. 17:21.000 --> 17:32.000 And any questions there. 17:32.000 --> 17:33.000 Okay. 17:33.000 --> 17:36.000 Quiet group tonight. 17:36.000 --> 17:38.000 Okay. Hearing none. 17:38.000 --> 17:42.000 Then we can move on to the chief's report. 17:42.000 --> 17:48.000 Okay. So I've got two items, even though only a is on her, but. 17:48.000 --> 17:51.000 For the update for the public safety building. 17:51.000 --> 17:55.000 We continue to move things over there today. I got. 17:55.000 --> 17:59.000 I had our evidence tech team move everything from our evidence room. 17:59.000 --> 18:03.000 As far as collecting the evidence over the new PD. They did a fantastic job. 18:03.000 --> 18:06.000 They got it all done in a couple hours. 18:07.000 --> 18:12.000 They are putting everything away, labeling the new locations for these things. 18:12.000 --> 18:18.000 The only staff who we ran into is, like I said, in that room, there was a lack of shelving in the cupboard. 18:18.000 --> 18:24.000 So I have arranged to get some more shelving brought over to us for that tomorrow. 18:24.000 --> 18:27.000 We'll be bringing it was in today. 18:27.000 --> 18:33.000 They started working on our computers and I identified our priority computers. 18:34.000 --> 18:36.000 Two of which are in the property room. 18:36.000 --> 18:40.000 So that now the property room can be secured. 18:40.000 --> 18:45.000 And we can start getting our evidence over there, our actual. 18:45.000 --> 18:52.000 Taken evidence over there, which myself and one of the property officers will be doing tomorrow morning. 18:52.000 --> 18:55.000 Trying to transfer as much of that as we can. 18:55.000 --> 18:59.000 Phone system for the whole city is up and operational. 19:00.000 --> 19:04.000 The phones that I could plug in that were extra at the new PD have been plugged in. 19:04.000 --> 19:07.000 They are working. 19:07.000 --> 19:11.000 On a side note, I didn't know how this would work, but I was at the new PD. 19:11.000 --> 19:18.000 I dialed the extension for the old PD, one of the phones and somebody answered and I said, Hey, I'm at the new PD and this is actually working. 19:18.000 --> 19:21.000 We can talk back and forth. 19:21.000 --> 19:26.000 It is the little, it's the little victories that mean a lot. 19:26.000 --> 19:28.000 What we're going to be looking at. 19:28.000 --> 19:37.000 Now coming up in the short term is really working on trying to get some of the computers over there and monitors and get no setup. 19:37.000 --> 19:46.000 The plan is to try and get a clerk over at the new location so that we can start operating out of there and then once we can do that. 19:46.000 --> 19:55.000 We can start moving other stuff over officers have already started moving things for their lockers and their personal like their workspace stuff. 19:56.000 --> 20:01.000 Today I got all their entry fobs programmed. 20:01.000 --> 20:08.000 So today they receive their fobs and their keys so they can have access to the building now. 20:08.000 --> 20:15.000 So like I said, we're really going to start trying to move stuff over as much as possible shortly. 20:15.000 --> 20:18.000 They all seem to be pretty excited about it. 20:18.000 --> 20:29.000 The only one big thing that's left to do is we were going to use movers to move some of our stuff, but as we've looked through the list of things that we're going to have the movers do. 20:29.000 --> 20:40.000 We found that a lot of the things are already either there or we don't need to take because they were covered by the things that were purchased with the building. 20:40.000 --> 20:44.000 So we kind of for went that night. I've convinced a group to work for pizza. 20:44.000 --> 20:53.000 And we're going to rent a U hall and get a couple of decent alleys and and all that stuff over ourselves one evening. 20:53.000 --> 20:56.000 So that's kind of where we're at. 20:56.000 --> 20:59.000 Just don't forget to move the PFC's file cabinet over. 20:59.000 --> 21:02.000 Yeah, I got to talk to you guys about that. 21:03.000 --> 21:08.000 Don't forget about that because that you guys still have have to do that. So, yeah. 21:12.000 --> 21:17.000 Is there a date that you hope to have everything transferred over and be in there? 21:17.000 --> 21:20.000 I September 15th. 21:20.000 --> 21:25.000 I hope we're operational out of there. I mean, probably next week, I'm hoping. 21:25.000 --> 21:34.000 But I know I have a month that I just my main concentration is getting everything over there that we need. We can fine tune it later. 21:34.000 --> 21:40.000 But then I know I have a couple weeks to be able to still go back and access things because there are. 21:40.000 --> 21:49.000 I mean, you think about all the stuff you accumulate over 30 years and trying to figure out what can stay and what should go or what we don't need. 21:50.000 --> 21:56.000 Exactly. Yeah. And just one other question I had also involves chief to bore is. 21:56.000 --> 21:59.000 Have you come to an agreement on. 21:59.000 --> 22:05.000 You know, things within the building who's responsible for certain things or have you had the opportunity to talk about that yet. 22:05.000 --> 22:09.000 We talk about it on almost daily basis. Yeah, we've been. 22:09.000 --> 22:14.000 Yeah, we see each other more than I think we probably see our families right now. 22:15.000 --> 22:22.000 Yeah, we've been working through that as things come up. In fact, we just finalized like we're doing the fire alarm system. 22:22.000 --> 22:28.000 They're doing the sprinkler system stuff. So trying to keep it as equitable as possible in areas that makes sense. 22:28.000 --> 22:34.000 We still have some things to work on as far as interior maintenance that kind of stuff, but anything that we can share. 22:34.000 --> 22:39.000 We will work on doing great. 22:40.000 --> 22:43.000 Any other questions on that subject. 22:43.000 --> 22:45.000 Just a comment. 22:45.000 --> 22:54.000 Chief, you've been doing a lot of work on this project and the moving right down to going over and vacuuming. 22:54.000 --> 22:55.000 So thank you. 22:55.000 --> 22:58.000 I even had my wife over there working. 22:58.000 --> 23:03.000 That's about the only way we get to see each other is she's outcome over and help us. 23:04.000 --> 23:06.000 We have a lot of work to do with this project. 23:06.000 --> 23:09.000 So thank you for all of the hard work. Just a fantastic. 23:09.000 --> 23:11.000 Great job. Thank you. 23:11.000 --> 23:12.000 All right, moving along. 23:12.000 --> 23:15.000 Item B is a last minute entry. We have a. 23:15.000 --> 23:18.000 If it's okay, we have a request for secondary employment from Tammy Shepard. 23:18.000 --> 23:22.000 She will be working part time at the Fredonia Police Department. 23:22.000 --> 23:30.000 I think basically doing what she does for us, which is entering records and maybe typing reports and things like that. 23:30.000 --> 23:33.000 I don't believe that this will interfere with her position at all. 23:33.000 --> 23:39.000 It's very part time and the hours basically are whenever she wants to go up there. 23:39.000 --> 23:41.000 Having had the experience of working up in Fredonia. 23:41.000 --> 23:43.000 I know how that place is run. 23:43.000 --> 23:48.000 And essentially, it's when I have some free time, I'll go up and take care of this kind of thing. So. 23:48.000 --> 23:49.000 Okay, good. 23:50.000 --> 23:54.000 Yeah, I see a request dates back to June since we didn't have a July meeting. It's. 23:54.000 --> 23:56.000 On the on the shelf for a while. Yeah. 23:56.000 --> 24:00.000 But if you have no problem with that, I don't see any problem here. 24:00.000 --> 24:01.000 Commissioner, is any comments on that? 24:05.000 --> 24:10.000 Since it's not an item on here, I don't think we can. 24:11.000 --> 24:20.000 Take any action other than getting giving blessing on this. 24:20.000 --> 24:22.000 Correct. 24:22.000 --> 24:24.000 Any problems? 24:24.000 --> 24:26.000 No, okay. 24:26.000 --> 24:29.000 Consider it done then. Thank you. 24:29.000 --> 24:30.000 All good done. 24:33.000 --> 24:36.000 Okay, let's then move on to. 24:36.000 --> 24:38.000 Fire department. 24:39.000 --> 24:41.000 Good evening, everybody. 24:41.000 --> 24:43.000 Good evening, chief. 24:43.000 --> 24:49.000 I figured we would just go through June and then go through July as we do normally. 24:49.000 --> 24:52.000 So yes, we will start with the MSM voices for June. 24:56.000 --> 24:58.000 Any concerns there, chief? Nope. 24:58.000 --> 25:02.000 Aim balances are starting to show signs of their ages, just, you know, 25:03.000 --> 25:05.000 similar to what chief Sarnaki was saying. 25:05.000 --> 25:09.000 Air conditioning and both ambulances went out within a month of each other. 25:09.000 --> 25:12.000 So you'll see an invoice for a runner. 25:12.000 --> 25:17.000 It's fire equipment and doing four 52s and then an invoice in July for four 51. 25:17.000 --> 25:19.000 Other than that, 25:19.000 --> 25:21.000 everything's pretty standard. 25:24.000 --> 25:27.000 As far as fire department invoices go. 25:27.000 --> 25:30.000 Not much to report there. 25:31.000 --> 25:33.000 Host testing is the big ticket item. 25:33.000 --> 25:39.000 We contract with a company called fire cat that comes in and does our annual host testing for us. 25:39.000 --> 25:44.000 It's nice because they have the correct equipment to do host testing. 25:44.000 --> 25:47.000 You know, it's a little bit more complicated than, 25:47.000 --> 25:53.000 you know, at 20 years ago and just hooked it up to the truck and pumped it as hard as we could and made sure nothing broke. 25:54.000 --> 25:56.000 There's an FPA standards that we have to follow. 25:56.000 --> 26:02.000 It also gives us a lot of time back because we're using three or at least three or four trainings a year to do host testing. 26:02.000 --> 26:08.000 And now that company comes in and does it for us. So we get those nights back for training. 26:08.000 --> 26:10.000 Yes, sir. 26:10.000 --> 26:13.000 Just curious, will that be an easier process in the new facility? 26:13.000 --> 26:17.000 Most testing. No, we actually. 26:18.000 --> 26:22.000 Use the Hollander chocolate lot. They're gracious enough to let us use that lot. 26:22.000 --> 26:30.000 So they can lay out 300 feet at a time and test all of those sections so they get through our entire fleet in a day and a half or so. 26:30.000 --> 26:35.000 Yeah, they have been super gracious about doing that the entire time that they've had the building. 26:35.000 --> 26:43.000 We try to schedule it on Monday when they're closed, but even then they more than gracious enough to work around us if we needed to bleed over. 26:44.000 --> 26:48.000 Great. Yeah. Yeah, we did. Send them a nice. Thank you. 26:48.000 --> 26:50.000 Thank you. 26:50.000 --> 26:54.000 You mess calls in June. 26:54.000 --> 26:59.000 It continues to be busy. 26:59.000 --> 27:02.000 140 calls in June. 27:02.000 --> 27:07.000 We actually ended up in with 140 in July as well. 27:07.000 --> 27:16.000 You're seeing that these are all largely our calls. We haven't been doing many intercepts. One or two Z here in there. 27:16.000 --> 27:24.000 But. 27:24.000 --> 27:30.000 We did have three mutual aid requests for second emails calls. 27:30.000 --> 27:43.000 As we'll talk about in our later agenda items, staffing has been a little bit challenging as of late. So that leaves us when we're at minimum unable to staff a second. 27:43.000 --> 27:51.000 So we had a couple of calls where somebody was not available and you'll see those are typically later at nighttime calls. 27:52.000 --> 28:07.000 That said, you know, looking back a few years ago and we're still, you know, farming out 50% of our calls, having essentially nine total throughout the course of the year is a significant improvement, but something that we're trying to work on internally. 28:07.000 --> 28:11.000 And response times are still looking good at a little over six minutes. Yes. 28:11.000 --> 28:15.000 Very good. Thank you. 28:16.000 --> 28:18.000 Tell us about fire calls for June. 28:18.000 --> 28:24.000 June fire calls are kind of all starting to run together in my head a little bit. 28:24.000 --> 28:32.000 I don't think there is anything too exciting there except for a cat from a tree rescue. Yes, it does happen. 28:32.000 --> 28:40.000 I think we have significantly razz the firefighter who got his picture on social media doing it. So. 28:40.000 --> 28:42.000 Yeah, that's. 28:42.000 --> 28:46.000 But otherwise nothing super exciting there. 28:46.000 --> 28:51.000 And then moving into July. 28:51.000 --> 28:56.000 EMS invoices. 28:56.000 --> 29:01.000 Significant things there. Again, we already talked about the air conditioning repair for 451. 29:01.000 --> 29:07.000 Our billing collection numbers were up significantly, which is good because that's a percentage of our reimbursement. 29:07.000 --> 29:18.000 The higher we see the ambulance billing collection fee means we're doing better from that standpoint, and then we have a pre employment physical there for a new member that we'll talk about shortly. 29:18.000 --> 29:25.000 And chief photos, a little more about the ambulances. How old are those and how many miles, when are they going to be replaced? 29:25.000 --> 29:30.000 All of them are due for replacement in 2020. 29:30.000 --> 29:35.000 Well, one is due in 28 and one is due in 29. 29:35.000 --> 29:40.000 If we can get them by them. So that's something that I've been talking with a finance director about. 29:40.000 --> 29:48.000 We're likely going to have to kind of go through a process similar to the ambulances or the engine about lead time issues. 29:48.000 --> 29:58.000 We have been working with a vendor to help put together a spec so we can send it out for proposals from multiple vendors so we can cross all of those things off the list, but. 29:58.000 --> 30:05.000 The ambulance 451 has about 90 between 90 and a hundred thousand miles on it right now. 30:05.000 --> 30:08.000 These are gas motors. 30:08.000 --> 30:12.000 When these two were purchased, they were. 30:12.000 --> 30:17.000 Specked as gas motors, so it's not the old diesel that'll run forever and ever and ever anymore. 30:17.000 --> 30:25.000 And it's not just the chassis, the box shows, you know, age with it. And as we change, you know, operationally, that's the biggest thing. 30:25.000 --> 30:31.000 You know, when these things were built, if you would have told me they would have been staffed by full time firefighter paramedics out of lap data. 30:31.000 --> 30:42.000 But obviously, you know, needing storage for their turn out gear, breathing apparatus, those type of things are going to be included in the new ambulance because that stuff just doesn't fit in the currently out. 30:42.000 --> 30:48.000 So we're also trying to plan for the future as we're working on the designs for these. Hopefully they can be remounted. 30:48.000 --> 30:56.000 Once we get the body style, how we want them with the next iteration of ambulances, hopefully we can get two chassis out of each of them. 30:56.000 --> 31:00.000 So. 31:00.000 --> 31:02.000 Mr Chairman. Yes, sir. 31:02.000 --> 31:06.000 Chief question on the ambulance billing collections. Yes. 31:06.000 --> 31:13.000 If I'm remembering correctly, we approve this as kind of a new process, like in the first quarter of this year. 31:13.000 --> 31:24.000 And I'm just wondering if you could say more about it. You think it's going well. I know we were spending enormous amounts of staff time and it wasn't really efficient and we weren't collecting and. 31:24.000 --> 31:30.000 As far as I, I don't think we made any significant changes to what we're doing. 31:30.000 --> 31:38.000 We had, we did have some meetings with our ambulance billing provider to make sure that some of the issues that we were having are ironed out. 31:38.000 --> 31:44.000 Since that time, I think communication with them has been significantly better. 31:44.000 --> 31:51.000 We have a new customer success representative, I think is their specific title. 31:51.000 --> 32:00.000 Who has been significantly more responsive than our previous, but there's always issues with, you know, 32:00.000 --> 32:06.000 people getting bills for work comp things that, you know, it didn't get entered as work comp. 32:06.000 --> 32:13.000 You know, either on the hospital side or, you know, vice versa. So we always have little things here and there. 32:13.000 --> 32:20.000 You know, and as these billing companies become larger and larger and larger, it's just like any other corporation as they get bigger and bigger or bigger. 32:20.000 --> 32:29.000 Sometimes customer service wins, but when we get those concerns, we take them seriously and we have pretty quick follow up with our rep to make sure those things get. 32:29.000 --> 32:35.000 Corrected pretty quick. Okay. And you're happy with the, I mean, they have a percentage right, but it's. 32:35.000 --> 32:47.000 Yes, if you look at, you know, when we went, you know, when we stayed with ems, emc, ems, emc purchased, Andre's medical billing, who was our previous provider. 32:47.000 --> 32:58.000 And their collection rates, you know, are significantly higher, or at least somewhat higher than, you know, what the national averages or if we went with a smaller firm. 32:58.000 --> 33:10.000 So that's part of the puzzle to, you know, ambulance, EMS billing, medical billing, all of those things involve insurance are and are exceedingly complicated. So it requires them to kind of be persistent. 33:10.000 --> 33:26.000 And that's why, you know, their, their fees are what they are because it takes a lot of time. In fact, I just talked with them on Monday to make sure all of our Medicare and Medicaid stuff was buttoned up because there had been some stuff that fell through the cracks 33:26.000 --> 33:33.000 a couple of years ago that needed to get buttoned up. Okay, so great. Thank you. Yep. 33:33.000 --> 33:42.000 Okay, any other questions about July billing invoices. 33:42.000 --> 33:53.000 Fire invoices pretty low for the month of July probably because we've been spending most of our time getting stuff ready for the transition to the new facility. 33:53.000 --> 34:06.000 You'll see fire alarm inspection and monitoring that kind of goes back to your question before about, you know, working together with the police department. So this is our half of the fire alarm system. 34:06.000 --> 34:21.000 Monitoring work, like I said before, we're taking care of the fire alarm inspection and monitoring, and then they're taking care of the sprinkler system so their invoice is pretty similar to ours. 34:21.000 --> 34:25.000 So we're going to have a couple of calls. 34:25.000 --> 34:31.000 For Peter's little laggy today, too many pages of things to flip through. 34:31.000 --> 34:35.000 Strangely exact same number of calls as June. 34:35.000 --> 34:45.000 A couple more intercepts again, you know, kind of waxing and waning, whether that's, you know, for don't use on a second call or whatever the case is. 34:46.000 --> 34:52.000 Two to three intercepts a month right now, but as they're staffing fluctuates just like anyone else. 34:52.000 --> 34:56.000 You know, those numbers kind of bounce up and down. 34:56.000 --> 35:04.000 Response times in July, drop below six minutes average in the city of five minutes and 37 seconds, which is great. 35:04.000 --> 35:12.000 And no facility based lift assist. We've been doing pretty well with that since the ordinance passage last year. 35:13.000 --> 35:22.000 A couple of mutual aid requests, both of those were 30 minutes calls, or sorry, two, two thirds of those were 30 minutes calls. 35:22.000 --> 35:29.000 And you guys know, don't have a 30 minutes, but both of those calls got first responders going to them. So at least somebody's coming. 35:29.000 --> 35:38.000 Getting to the patient quickly and at least starting care while we're waiting for our friends for almost a central to show up and help us out. 35:43.000 --> 35:48.000 Fire calls. So this is the first month in. 35:48.000 --> 35:53.000 I think our department's history that we hit 50 fire calls in a month. 35:53.000 --> 36:00.000 40 is quite high. We had 41 the month prior and we eclipse that. 36:00.000 --> 36:07.000 Last year we had two months for the first time ever above 40. We've done that like four months already this year. 36:07.000 --> 36:17.000 We are well on our way to 2000 total calls this year, which will be significantly higher than where we've been in the past. 36:17.000 --> 36:27.000 Looks like you responded to four or five mutual aid calls. Yeah, I believe the 12th was one of those strange days. 36:27.000 --> 36:32.000 We had three fires in one day. One of them being our own on terrace drive. 36:32.000 --> 36:36.000 We responded to a fully involved garage fire at one in the morning. 36:36.000 --> 36:39.000 By the time I got on scene. 36:39.000 --> 36:44.000 Flames were already through the roof of the garage and it had partially already collapsed. 36:44.000 --> 36:53.000 Our crews got on scene very quickly and we're able to knock down the fire as best they could and prevent significant damage to the interior of the house. 36:53.000 --> 37:01.000 There was still some smoke damage and those type of things, but the fire didn't spread maybe 10 feet past the firewall in the garage. 37:01.000 --> 37:16.000 Our friends for the police department also did a great job helping get the neighbors evacuated and doing some force of a entry practice to make sure the people next door were out and safe as well as making sure the residents of that home were out. 37:17.000 --> 37:21.000 Then we ended up going to Newberg for a fire at one in the afternoon. 37:21.000 --> 37:25.000 And as we were on our way back from that one, we went to Cedarburg for another fire. 37:25.000 --> 37:29.000 Is that how we got the 347 response time? Yeah. 37:29.000 --> 37:35.000 Wow. Yeah. In fact, I was coming through Cedarburg as that page went out. 37:35.000 --> 37:41.000 So I was there probably faster than some of the Cedarburg units were getting on scene. 37:41.000 --> 37:42.000 Nice. 37:42.000 --> 37:47.000 So, good work. 37:47.000 --> 37:50.000 Okay. 37:50.000 --> 37:57.000 Mr. Has any questions about June or July fire information. 37:57.000 --> 37:59.000 Okay. 37:59.000 --> 38:00.000 Right. 38:00.000 --> 38:01.000 Okay. 38:01.000 --> 38:04.000 So a couple of things to run through quickly. 38:04.000 --> 38:06.000 Question on the revenue. 38:07.000 --> 38:12.000 Did you want to do go through the cheese report or do you want to do the budget next? Oh, okay. It's in there. 38:12.000 --> 38:15.000 It's up to you. I just want to be sure we didn't miss the revenue. I'm just. 38:15.000 --> 38:23.000 I'll get you this. All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate it. Okay. So just a couple of things from a staffing and personnel perspective. 38:24.000 --> 38:25.000 I'm not sure what it is. 38:25.000 --> 38:27.000 It's just a lot of things that we've been doing. 38:27.000 --> 38:37.000 I'm sure that the National Firefighter Paramedic Brad Walker has resigned and accepted full time employment with the city of Brookfield fire department. 38:37.000 --> 38:41.000 He started there on August 10 we wish him well and good luck. 38:41.000 --> 38:46.000 That means we will be starting a recruiting process to fill that vacancy. 38:46.000 --> 38:49.000 In the short term in the near future. So. 38:49.000 --> 38:53.100 has requested to move back to the rank of engineer. 38:53.100 --> 38:57.540 Engineers are the folks that drive, pump the vehicles 38:57.540 --> 38:59.260 instead of riding in the right front 38:59.260 --> 39:01.060 and kind of being on the line. 39:01.060 --> 39:03.140 Andrew was a engineer for a long time 39:03.140 --> 39:04.500 before becoming a lieutenant 39:04.500 --> 39:06.580 and then has request to move back to that position. 39:06.580 --> 39:09.420 So I will honor that request 39:09.420 --> 39:10.700 unless there's any objection 39:10.700 --> 39:12.540 from the police and fire commission. 39:14.740 --> 39:16.740 Any objections? 39:16.740 --> 39:18.260 Hearing none, 39:18.260 --> 39:19.100 continue on. 39:19.100 --> 39:20.340 Wonderful. 39:20.340 --> 39:21.700 Like to announce the hiring 39:21.700 --> 39:26.060 of a new part-time firefighter, EMT, Isaiah Mullins. 39:26.060 --> 39:30.620 Isaiah has been with us for close to a month or so now, 39:30.620 --> 39:32.460 has been doing well quickly progressing 39:32.460 --> 39:34.260 through his orientation. 39:34.260 --> 39:36.460 Isaiah is a former defensive end 39:36.460 --> 39:37.860 for the Wisconsin Badgers. 39:37.860 --> 39:40.220 So he will not be the hard one to pick out 39:40.220 --> 39:41.540 when you see him on a call. 39:44.540 --> 39:46.380 All right, Commissioner Dean, now's your chance. 39:46.380 --> 39:47.740 Let's go through the budget. 39:49.020 --> 39:54.020 So I've provided the quarter two budget in our packet 39:54.620 --> 39:56.740 for you guys to review. 39:56.740 --> 39:57.660 Just kind of going through, 39:57.660 --> 40:00.580 you'll see our EMS revenue is up a little bit 40:01.460 --> 40:03.580 beyond what we expected. 40:03.580 --> 40:05.820 We forecasted about 800,000 40:05.820 --> 40:09.700 and we're at 430,000 so far this year. 40:09.700 --> 40:12.100 And as our call volume continues to increase, 40:12.100 --> 40:16.500 I would anticipate that continuing to increase. 40:16.500 --> 40:19.740 That does not include our GMAT funding 40:19.740 --> 40:23.980 or there's a program through the state 40:23.980 --> 40:26.780 that essentially helps offset some of the cost 40:26.780 --> 40:31.100 of what we're losing when we bill Medicare 40:31.100 --> 40:32.780 or sorry, Medicaid patients. 40:32.780 --> 40:37.780 So that adds between 12 and $15,000 annually, 40:39.620 --> 40:42.500 sometimes a little bit more, sometimes a little bit less. 40:42.500 --> 40:45.780 But that's a program that started technically last year 40:45.780 --> 40:47.980 but it was retroactive to the year prior. 40:49.100 --> 40:51.540 Amanda, our administrative assistant, 40:51.540 --> 40:54.300 does a great job doing that for us. 40:54.300 --> 40:57.580 It takes a lot of work for her to go through 40:57.580 --> 41:00.660 and catalog all those calls and all of that revenue 41:00.660 --> 41:05.220 and put that into the state portal to collect that. 41:05.220 --> 41:07.300 As I'm sure you can imagine that portal 41:07.300 --> 41:10.780 is way more complex than it probably needs to be, 41:10.780 --> 41:13.340 but she does a great job taking care of that for us. 41:13.980 --> 41:16.260 So that'll be miscellaneous revenue 41:16.260 --> 41:18.060 when that's received as well. 41:21.740 --> 41:23.940 Expenditures, as you can see, 41:23.940 --> 41:28.980 we're kind of creeping up on our overtime as well. 41:28.980 --> 41:30.900 We're at 53%. 41:30.900 --> 41:35.900 But see the previous comments before about staffing issues 41:36.900 --> 41:39.900 with the departure of three full-time personnel this year. 41:39.900 --> 41:42.140 We've had to post a fair bit of overtime 41:42.140 --> 41:45.260 to make sure we're at least at our staffing minimums. 41:45.260 --> 41:48.060 We always do try to fulfill those positions 41:48.060 --> 41:49.260 with part-time personnel, 41:49.260 --> 41:53.100 but those folks obviously only have so much time available 41:53.100 --> 41:55.820 to give and the ones that are working there, 41:55.820 --> 41:59.420 maximum hours can't really help us more than they are. 41:59.420 --> 42:01.780 So typically a lot of those just fall 42:01.780 --> 42:03.580 on full-time staff to pick up. 42:04.700 --> 42:06.700 One thing that I would like to note in here, 42:06.700 --> 42:08.980 both on the fire and the EMS side 42:08.980 --> 42:12.140 is the life insurance is significantly higher 42:12.140 --> 42:13.940 than what is budgeted. 42:13.940 --> 42:16.820 I did talk to the finance director about this. 42:16.820 --> 42:21.020 This was an oversight on their part this year 42:21.020 --> 42:23.180 about forecasting for life insurance 42:23.180 --> 42:26.900 and not including full-time personnel into that. 42:26.900 --> 42:29.580 So that'll be corrected in the 2027 budget. 42:29.580 --> 42:32.300 But a lot of those, that's in kind of the section 42:32.300 --> 42:34.180 that's maintained by City Hall 42:34.180 --> 42:36.640 and not really touched by us. 42:39.580 --> 42:42.660 The rest of the GLs seem to be going okay, 42:42.660 --> 42:45.100 computer services, that one, you know, 42:45.100 --> 42:48.780 when you see it, it says 419% over. 42:48.780 --> 42:51.700 That's only because that line item closed this year 42:51.700 --> 42:53.380 and got rolled into something else, 42:53.380 --> 42:57.740 but that was a carryover bill from 2025 42:57.740 --> 42:59.660 that made its way into this year. 42:59.660 --> 43:02.180 So there's nothing to be concerned about 43:02.180 --> 43:03.300 from that standpoint. 43:04.540 --> 43:07.580 And as you can see, our software fees in the line item 43:07.580 --> 43:11.700 below is only at 13% which will cover that significantly. 43:14.540 --> 43:17.940 Otherwise, if anybody has any questions, 43:17.940 --> 43:20.300 I'm more than happy to take them, you know, 43:20.300 --> 43:25.300 similar sentiments about our vehicle maintenance costs 43:25.660 --> 43:29.820 are, you know, as we continue to age our fleet, 43:29.820 --> 43:31.700 those fees keep going up. 43:31.700 --> 43:34.820 And we're trying to stay ahead of that as best as we can. 43:34.820 --> 43:37.300 So we're still trying to do some preventative 43:37.300 --> 43:39.340 maintenance things, replacing tires, 43:39.340 --> 43:41.500 doing those type of things as budget allows, 43:41.500 --> 43:43.740 but we're trying not to get behind on those things 43:43.740 --> 43:46.060 because that's where we see these, you know, 43:46.060 --> 43:49.260 astronomically priced repairs 43:49.260 --> 43:52.300 because we've neglected the preventative maintenance things. 43:56.860 --> 43:57.900 Sure, you have a question. 43:57.900 --> 43:58.740 Just a quick one. 43:58.740 --> 44:00.660 When is the insurance tax from the state? 44:00.660 --> 44:03.820 When do we recognize that revenue or receive it? 44:03.820 --> 44:05.940 Oh, the GMAT stuff. 44:05.940 --> 44:10.180 Usually we get it probably should be relatively soon. 44:10.180 --> 44:12.740 I would say end of quarter two, early quarter three. 44:12.740 --> 44:14.180 Okay, 80,000. 44:14.180 --> 44:16.740 Oh, no, it's significantly less than that. 44:16.740 --> 44:19.780 It's probably, like I said, between 15 and 20,000. 44:21.180 --> 44:22.460 Maybe we're talking about a different thing 44:22.460 --> 44:24.300 than it's forecasted at 80. 44:25.460 --> 44:27.420 Are you talking about the EMS call billing? 44:27.420 --> 44:29.100 I'm talking about fire insurance that from 44:29.100 --> 44:31.980 Oh, that's the 2% dues. 44:31.980 --> 44:34.140 That should be here by now. 44:34.140 --> 44:34.980 Yeah. 44:34.980 --> 44:36.620 So I don't, that should be here. 44:36.620 --> 44:37.660 It'll show up next time. 44:37.660 --> 44:39.260 Yes, that likely will. 44:39.260 --> 44:43.020 Yeah, we received, we did our 2% dues audit. 44:43.020 --> 44:45.060 I think we talked about that a few meetings ago. 44:45.060 --> 44:47.060 So just waiting for that to post, 44:47.060 --> 44:48.340 but that should have been here by now. 44:48.340 --> 44:49.740 So I will follow up with the finance. 44:49.740 --> 44:50.900 And that's a pretty clear line. 44:50.900 --> 44:52.180 You forecast 80 and you get it. 44:52.180 --> 44:53.260 Yeah, it's pretty, yeah. 44:53.260 --> 44:55.500 I mean, it's within a thousand bucks or two. 44:55.500 --> 44:56.900 Okay, thank you. 44:56.900 --> 44:58.380 But that'll be there for sure. 44:58.380 --> 44:59.220 Good. 45:02.020 --> 45:03.380 Any other budget questions? 45:08.020 --> 45:09.340 Carry on. 45:09.340 --> 45:10.180 Okay. 45:12.020 --> 45:13.700 Update on the brush truck 45:14.700 --> 45:17.180 and the progress of the new engine. 45:17.180 --> 45:22.140 So we have finally placed the new brush truck 45:22.140 --> 45:26.140 457 into service after Monday nights 45:26.140 --> 45:28.780 training with our driver operators. 45:28.780 --> 45:32.380 It's replacing the 1992 GMC brush truck 45:33.700 --> 45:37.140 as our primary brushing kind of quick attack vehicle. 45:38.020 --> 45:39.860 It actually does a lot more things 45:39.860 --> 45:42.100 than the previous brush truck did. 45:42.100 --> 45:45.300 It's equipped with a significantly more powerful pump. 45:45.300 --> 45:47.700 The previous brush truck had, I believe, 45:47.700 --> 45:50.620 a seven and a half or a five horsepower motor. 45:50.620 --> 45:53.660 The new one has a 35 horsepower motor on it. 45:53.660 --> 45:56.460 And the reason that we did that is it will allow us 45:56.460 --> 45:59.540 to essentially pump a standard firefighting 45:59.540 --> 46:02.980 hand line for areas, especially in the town 46:02.980 --> 46:05.940 along those residential roads by the lake 46:05.940 --> 46:08.500 that you really can't get a fire truck down. 46:08.500 --> 46:09.980 So at least we can get down there 46:09.980 --> 46:12.460 and use real firefighting equipment 46:12.460 --> 46:15.700 to try to get a knockdown if we have something down there. 46:17.780 --> 46:19.700 It also is something that we would utilize 46:19.700 --> 46:21.340 on the interstate for car accidents 46:21.340 --> 46:23.740 if we need a hose line or something like that 46:23.740 --> 46:26.060 because it's equipped with foam. 46:26.060 --> 46:28.820 It's got a 225 gallon water tank, 46:28.820 --> 46:31.740 which can be fed from our tanker truck. 46:31.740 --> 46:34.220 There's twin hose reels off the side as well. 46:35.460 --> 46:37.500 This brush truck has breathing apparatus. 46:37.500 --> 46:39.860 Again, if we're gonna do interior structural firefighting 46:39.860 --> 46:41.340 whether we need those type of things. 46:41.340 --> 46:45.300 So it's a significantly more advanced vehicle 46:45.300 --> 46:47.460 than its predecessor. 46:50.500 --> 46:55.100 We are about $40,000 between 30 and $40,000 46:55.100 --> 46:57.740 on your budget on this project largely 46:57.740 --> 47:02.740 because we kind of construction managed this vehicle 47:03.140 --> 47:03.980 in house. 47:04.860 --> 47:09.100 In fact, Cedar Grove fire department was down here 47:10.740 --> 47:12.740 last week to take a look at ours. 47:12.740 --> 47:15.140 They had a bid out for something similar 47:15.140 --> 47:19.140 maybe with a few different bells and whistles on it. 47:19.140 --> 47:22.660 They were getting quotes back for about 250,000. 47:22.660 --> 47:27.660 Ours will be done for about 135 to 140. 47:27.820 --> 47:28.660 Good work. 47:28.660 --> 47:32.660 On top of that, we also got a $10,000 grant from the DNR 47:32.660 --> 47:35.300 to partially fund some of the equipment on the vehicle. 47:36.540 --> 47:38.620 Like I said, a lot of that comes back 47:38.620 --> 47:42.700 to our in-station personnel putting in a lot of work. 47:42.700 --> 47:45.860 Deputy Chief Betcher installing all the lighting 47:45.860 --> 47:47.300 so the crews throughout the day 47:47.300 --> 47:50.100 helping them get those type of things done. 47:50.140 --> 47:52.780 We've been putting the lift kits on 47:52.780 --> 47:54.220 and making sure the tires get on 47:54.220 --> 47:56.340 and doing all that kind of stuff. 47:56.340 --> 47:59.020 So a lot of thanks goes out to those guys 47:59.020 --> 48:02.660 and we're getting all of that stuff done in house 48:02.660 --> 48:04.380 to save us on budget side. 48:07.460 --> 48:09.820 Progress report on the engine. 48:09.820 --> 48:13.820 I don't really have a lot of great news to report. 48:13.820 --> 48:17.420 We were initially planning on September 23rd 48:17.420 --> 48:19.140 as a delivery date. 48:19.180 --> 48:24.180 I received a message from Reliant Fire Apparatus 48:24.220 --> 48:27.100 that that will likely be pushed back 48:27.100 --> 48:29.300 until the end of October. 48:29.300 --> 48:31.780 Nothing on our end that we could do about that 48:31.780 --> 48:34.940 or caused by us, just production delays 48:34.940 --> 48:36.540 and manufacturer delays 48:36.540 --> 48:40.580 and them having issues sourcing materials. 48:41.700 --> 48:43.260 It sounds like there is a chance 48:43.260 --> 48:44.980 that we could still get it in September 48:44.980 --> 48:47.300 but they just wanted to prepare us for that. 48:47.300 --> 48:49.020 I know they are working on it. 48:49.020 --> 48:51.740 I did get graphics proofs sent to me last week 48:51.740 --> 48:53.460 which we sent them back for revision 48:53.460 --> 48:56.780 but it will be here before the end of the year 48:56.780 --> 48:59.340 come Heller High Water is what I'm told. 48:59.340 --> 49:01.540 And we've been working on trying to spec 49:01.540 --> 49:04.940 and order all of the other things that go on at the hose 49:04.940 --> 49:06.220 and all of that kind of stuff. 49:06.220 --> 49:09.020 So when it gets here, hopefully the turnaround time 49:09.020 --> 49:11.300 to get it in service is pretty quick 49:11.300 --> 49:13.420 and we don't drag this project over 49:13.420 --> 49:15.660 into the next budget year unless we have to. 49:16.660 --> 49:20.140 If just a question about how you're disposing 49:20.140 --> 49:24.020 of the old two old trucks, 49:24.020 --> 49:25.780 have you given any thought how you're going to do that? 49:25.780 --> 49:30.780 Yes, the brush truck will go on Wisconsin surplus 49:30.780 --> 49:34.300 and probably the next couple of weeks, 49:34.300 --> 49:36.220 obviously with a move to the new building, 49:36.220 --> 49:38.860 we've kind of trying to prioritize 49:38.860 --> 49:41.500 getting operational out of that place. 49:41.500 --> 49:43.340 But as soon as we are moved over there, 49:43.340 --> 49:46.540 we will be putting that vehicle on Wisconsin surplus. 49:46.540 --> 49:47.980 We've actually reached out to them 49:47.980 --> 49:51.860 to see if that truck is worth more with the skid in it. 49:51.860 --> 49:55.820 So the fire pump in it or if we lift that out 49:55.820 --> 49:57.140 and sell that separately, 49:57.140 --> 49:59.700 if we will get more for the truck that way 49:59.700 --> 50:04.700 because it's a 1992, like 3500 GMC 50:05.740 --> 50:07.100 without a ton of miles on it, 50:07.100 --> 50:08.980 those things actually collect a. 50:08.980 --> 50:10.140 It's a cream trophy. 50:10.140 --> 50:12.980 Yeah, they collect a pretty good value on that. 50:12.980 --> 50:16.860 So sometimes when the firefighting equipment is left 50:16.860 --> 50:19.700 in it, it actually decreases the value in that. 50:19.700 --> 50:22.500 So we've reached out to them to try to see 50:22.500 --> 50:25.100 which option is better because taking the skid out 50:25.100 --> 50:28.020 is a couple hours and a forklift. 50:28.020 --> 50:30.460 So we should be able to handle that. 50:30.460 --> 50:33.180 As far as the engine, we've listed it, 50:33.180 --> 50:38.180 we've listed 464, which is the engine that it's replacing 50:38.180 --> 50:42.580 on a couple of different fire truck broker sites. 50:42.580 --> 50:44.500 We've had a couple of nibbles, I guess, 50:44.500 --> 50:47.180 but no serious takers. 50:47.180 --> 50:52.180 So if we do not have a serious buyer by the time 50:53.220 --> 50:54.700 the new one is set to arrive, 50:54.700 --> 50:58.820 we will also put 464 on Wisconsin surplus. 50:58.820 --> 51:00.260 Okay, thank you. 51:00.260 --> 51:02.460 Yes, any other questions about those? 51:02.460 --> 51:03.300 Yes, sir. 51:04.580 --> 51:09.580 Chief, as we approach near final budget time with the city 51:09.580 --> 51:11.780 and I know we're gonna be reviewing that with you 51:11.780 --> 51:14.020 and previewing it for the council. 51:14.020 --> 51:15.260 It would be really helpful. 51:15.260 --> 51:16.460 You get a humble team over there, 51:16.460 --> 51:19.740 but it would be really helpful if you had a side column 51:19.740 --> 51:21.940 or notes for us or whatever. 51:21.940 --> 51:25.460 For example, coming in under budget on the fire truck, 51:25.460 --> 51:27.100 a little bit of work that you guys did there 51:27.100 --> 51:28.460 to be sure we came in under budget. 51:28.460 --> 51:30.620 You've had some creative revenue proposals this year, 51:30.620 --> 51:32.100 whether they were approved or not. 51:32.100 --> 51:33.340 Could we include all that? 51:33.340 --> 51:35.500 So it's more than a footnote on the budget. 51:35.500 --> 51:36.740 Absolutely, yeah. 51:36.740 --> 51:41.740 Yeah, I think as we continue to try to push for resources 51:41.780 --> 51:44.540 yes, absolutely, I do owe you guys a meeting 51:44.540 --> 51:46.340 about the budget here in the next couple of weeks. 51:46.340 --> 51:47.340 Yeah, no worries. 51:47.340 --> 51:49.140 No worries, we'll add and I will get to you. 51:49.140 --> 51:51.380 But I think that should be a part of our presentation. 51:51.380 --> 51:52.700 Yeah, I agree, 100%. 51:52.700 --> 51:53.540 Thank you. 51:54.700 --> 51:57.420 Lastly on my list is just a quick update 51:57.420 --> 51:59.340 on the public safety building. 51:59.340 --> 52:02.660 Largely echo, Chief Serneki on this. 52:02.660 --> 52:06.340 It's been a fun couple of weeks as we're trying to kind 52:06.340 --> 52:08.380 of get sorted out and sort through the things 52:08.380 --> 52:10.940 that we didn't anticipate a finding. 52:10.940 --> 52:13.580 Honestly, there hasn't been a ton of them on our side. 52:13.580 --> 52:16.620 It's just making sure that things are functioning, 52:16.620 --> 52:20.860 outlets all work and the garage doors aren't causing us 52:20.860 --> 52:22.340 problems and those type of things. 52:22.340 --> 52:27.340 So the plan is to be operational in there 52:28.020 --> 52:30.820 late Monday night, early Tuesday morning. 52:30.820 --> 52:34.060 We'll use this month's fire training for the vehicles 52:34.060 --> 52:36.700 coming over and everybody's turn out gear 52:36.700 --> 52:38.860 coming over that night. 52:38.860 --> 52:41.580 Our last big hold up was building access. 52:41.580 --> 52:44.140 We had permissions and instructions 52:44.140 --> 52:45.500 on how to do that today. 52:45.500 --> 52:48.740 So we couldn't do that because our staff getting 52:48.740 --> 52:50.700 in the building is kind of a barrier to us 52:50.700 --> 52:52.020 working in that building. 52:54.700 --> 52:56.620 Which you used to making force countries? 52:56.620 --> 53:00.060 Yes, it turns out we're not very gentle and it costs a lot 53:00.060 --> 53:01.660 and I don't think we have a force entry 53:01.660 --> 53:03.500 repair line item in the budget. 53:03.500 --> 53:05.340 No, no, okay. 53:05.340 --> 53:06.500 I'm checking. 53:07.340 --> 53:12.340 So, you know, I think we're excited to make the move. 53:13.060 --> 53:15.900 Again, you know, similar to Chief Sarnaki, 53:15.900 --> 53:19.300 we had budgeted in the project having movers come 53:19.300 --> 53:21.300 and do a lot of the work. 53:21.300 --> 53:24.100 But our crews, especially during the day have been, 53:24.100 --> 53:25.340 hey, what can we do to help? 53:25.340 --> 53:26.340 What can we do to help? 53:26.340 --> 53:29.700 And doing 90% of the work to the point 53:29.700 --> 53:32.940 where I don't think we will be hiring movers either. 53:32.940 --> 53:36.540 Yesterday, I, you know, walked out on the apparatus floor. 53:36.540 --> 53:39.660 The dining room table from the current station is there. 53:39.660 --> 53:42.700 The gear dryer and the tool bench is all there, 53:42.700 --> 53:44.020 which are exceedingly heavy. 53:44.020 --> 53:45.620 So I don't know what magic they did 53:45.620 --> 53:47.140 to get them out of the station. 53:47.140 --> 53:49.140 Nor do I probably want to know what they did 53:49.140 --> 53:50.380 to get them out of the station. 53:50.380 --> 53:53.620 But so that is a significant expense. 53:53.620 --> 53:56.220 Again, you know, thanks to our staff coming in, 53:56.220 --> 53:59.140 you know, either off shift or giving up their free time 53:59.140 --> 54:01.780 to just help with these things to make the move 54:01.780 --> 54:03.660 both cost effective and smooth for us. 54:03.660 --> 54:07.380 So IT was there today to start getting our computers 54:07.380 --> 54:08.220 up and running. 54:08.220 --> 54:10.860 It's been a pretty big lift for us. 54:10.860 --> 54:13.820 You know, we're coming from a place where, you know, 54:13.820 --> 54:18.420 we are using a router that once existed in my college dorm 54:18.420 --> 54:22.380 for our internet to having multiple IT closets 54:22.380 --> 54:26.020 and, you know, more computers than probably both 54:26.020 --> 54:29.540 of our current facilities combined, which are needed. 54:29.540 --> 54:32.500 You know, it's 2026 and our current facility, you know, 54:32.500 --> 54:35.820 was built in 1968 or 69. 54:35.820 --> 54:37.620 And not a lot of it has changed in there, 54:37.620 --> 54:39.820 but it's a lot of work getting that infrastructure 54:39.820 --> 54:41.140 up and running today. 54:41.140 --> 54:43.980 In fact, I just was messaging one of the guys 54:43.980 --> 54:46.700 who's working on building an internal television network 54:46.700 --> 54:47.540 for us. 54:47.540 --> 54:50.620 So all of our screens will have up to the minute CADs, 54:50.620 --> 54:53.540 security cameras, our response information, 54:53.540 --> 54:56.260 all of that stuff, just run through the TV 54:56.260 --> 54:58.380 so you can, it's just like a channel. 54:58.380 --> 55:01.980 So again, but also doing that on his own time, 55:01.980 --> 55:03.660 building it for us right now. 55:03.660 --> 55:06.900 So I can't say enough to all the guys that are over there. 55:07.900 --> 55:09.540 One last thing I wanted to mention about that 55:09.540 --> 55:12.100 is the decommissioning process. 55:12.100 --> 55:15.860 Last week at the GGF, they approved a contract 55:15.860 --> 55:18.220 with Bickler Auction Services who will be doing 55:18.220 --> 55:22.420 a decommissioning auction at both of our sites 55:23.580 --> 55:25.280 the third week of September. 55:26.280 --> 55:28.480 Essentially everything that's not bolted down 55:28.480 --> 55:32.160 and not moved over by then is up for auction. 55:32.160 --> 55:33.960 All the things will be posted online, 55:33.960 --> 55:36.680 then people can go on and bid on them 55:36.680 --> 55:37.880 and then come pick them up. 55:37.880 --> 55:41.080 I think it's the Friday and Saturday of that week. 55:41.080 --> 55:45.520 I think we both agreed that this is the most effective option 55:45.520 --> 55:49.120 for us instead of trying to go and individually list 55:49.120 --> 55:50.880 everything on Wisconsin surplus. 55:50.880 --> 55:53.720 Like imagine listing every office chair and desk 55:53.720 --> 55:55.240 and all that kind of stuff. 55:55.240 --> 55:57.800 And if you've ever listed anything on Wisconsin surplus, 55:57.800 --> 56:00.440 you'll get 40 emails about an office chair 56:00.440 --> 56:02.560 and somebody wants to come see it and sit in it 56:02.560 --> 56:04.600 and do both handles work. 56:04.600 --> 56:05.960 There's just one handle work. 56:05.960 --> 56:08.480 Like can you take four more pictures of it? 56:09.840 --> 56:11.640 Neither of us have the time to do that. 56:11.640 --> 56:16.040 So having a third party come in and do that for us 56:16.040 --> 56:18.720 is a great way for us to still get revenue 56:18.720 --> 56:20.240 from the things that are in the building 56:20.240 --> 56:23.800 but also protect our time and our staff's time 56:23.800 --> 56:25.040 in order to get out of there. 56:25.040 --> 56:28.840 So, bickler auction services. 56:28.840 --> 56:31.480 They are local BICHLER. 56:31.480 --> 56:33.320 They're out of Fredonia and they, 56:33.320 --> 56:34.760 or sorry, out of Belgium. 56:34.760 --> 56:38.120 They're probably gonna come after me if they hear that. 56:38.120 --> 56:41.920 They're out of Belgium and they contract 56:41.920 --> 56:45.960 with a larger auction house that helps them list 56:45.960 --> 56:47.240 and all that kind of stuff. 56:48.680 --> 56:50.800 Is there a contemplated date for us, you mentioned? 56:50.800 --> 56:53.560 It is the third week of September. 56:53.560 --> 56:55.960 I have to look at the contract again for the exact dates. 56:55.960 --> 56:56.960 Okay, thank you. 56:56.960 --> 56:57.800 Yep. 56:58.880 --> 57:00.240 That's all I got. 57:00.240 --> 57:02.440 Here's a question for both chiefs. 57:02.440 --> 57:05.800 He had residents ask about open houses of the new facility. 57:05.800 --> 57:07.160 I can answer that one. 57:07.160 --> 57:11.720 Yes, so October 11th will be our open house. 57:11.720 --> 57:14.000 Time will be posted shortly. 57:14.000 --> 57:17.760 We will be doing a ribbon cutting or a hose on coupling 57:17.760 --> 57:19.800 which is way cooler than a ribbon cutting. 57:20.800 --> 57:25.800 And then open house for both fire and police, correct? 57:27.440 --> 57:28.440 Yes. 57:28.440 --> 57:31.960 So, we've got a lot of cool stuff planned already. 57:31.960 --> 57:36.440 The sprinkler trailer from the National Fire Protection 57:36.440 --> 57:38.600 Sprinkler Association will be here. 57:38.600 --> 57:41.400 The Coast Guard will be bringing one of their boats 57:41.400 --> 57:42.840 on a trailer, obviously. 57:45.200 --> 57:48.280 The Sheriff's Department is going to bring some stuff 57:48.360 --> 57:52.560 from emergency management and likely the SRT folks. 57:52.560 --> 57:57.000 And we have been in conversations with the International Guard 57:57.000 --> 58:00.600 and they seem supportive of actually bringing and landing 58:00.600 --> 58:01.920 a Black Hawk helicopter. 58:03.920 --> 58:05.760 We'll mark my calendar for October 11th. 58:08.760 --> 58:09.680 Anything else, chief? 58:11.640 --> 58:12.480 I'll get a question. 58:12.480 --> 58:14.440 I have a couple, thanks. 58:14.440 --> 58:17.520 So, I know we were, there was, 58:17.520 --> 58:20.920 we lost significant amount of storage due to the HVAC equipment 58:20.920 --> 58:23.880 and a little bit in the, or another significant amount 58:23.880 --> 58:27.640 in the vehicle repair area. 58:27.640 --> 58:31.440 How are you doing on storage as you get closer to moving? 58:31.440 --> 58:32.960 We're working on it. 58:32.960 --> 58:33.800 Working on it? 58:33.800 --> 58:34.880 We're working on it. 58:34.880 --> 58:38.880 Yeah, it's gonna be tight, but we're working on it. 58:38.880 --> 58:39.720 Okay. 58:40.720 --> 58:42.040 And then how did the training, 58:42.040 --> 58:44.840 I noticed the National Guard helicopters, 58:44.840 --> 58:45.960 we had two trainings, right? 58:45.960 --> 58:48.240 One on North Beach and one on at Coldide Park. 58:48.240 --> 58:49.080 How did that go? 58:49.080 --> 58:51.640 Yes, so they were supposed to be within the same month, 58:51.640 --> 58:53.840 but unfortunately we had to reindate the one 58:53.840 --> 58:56.560 on in Upper Lake Park. 58:56.560 --> 58:57.800 Both of them went well. 58:57.800 --> 59:01.600 The first training was essentially a kind of dry run, 59:01.600 --> 59:03.600 getting to work with the helicopter crews, 59:03.600 --> 59:06.360 kind of learning their expectations of things, 59:06.360 --> 59:08.360 approaching the helicopter, those type of things. 59:08.360 --> 59:10.960 The second one, we actually did some victim picks 59:11.000 --> 59:14.720 off of the bluff, 59:14.720 --> 59:17.200 both with our bluff rescue team, 59:17.200 --> 59:19.840 coupled with their crews from the Black Hawk. 59:19.840 --> 59:22.440 So they would drop somebody down from the Black Hawk, 59:22.440 --> 59:23.920 we would package them, 59:23.920 --> 59:27.400 and then they would hoist either one of their guardsmen 59:27.400 --> 59:31.240 or rescue Randy our training victim. 59:31.240 --> 59:33.760 So then they would land the Black Hawk in the park, 59:33.760 --> 59:35.120 and then they would offload them 59:35.120 --> 59:36.440 to our waiting ambulance crews, 59:36.440 --> 59:38.840 and then we had a EMS scenario set up 59:38.840 --> 59:40.720 in the back of the ambulances. 59:40.720 --> 59:42.200 Things went pretty well. 59:42.200 --> 59:43.960 We pruned a few trees. 59:44.880 --> 59:47.320 We did not anticipate the amount of downdraft 59:47.320 --> 59:48.400 from those helicopters, 59:48.400 --> 59:51.120 it's significantly more than the old fish day helicopters. 59:51.120 --> 59:54.120 So quick apology to John Crane, 59:54.120 --> 59:58.160 but we pruned a few trees a little early for them, 59:58.160 --> 59:59.920 but we talked to him that night, 59:59.920 --> 01:00:02.320 and they were fine with it, so. 01:00:02.320 --> 01:00:04.560 But also again, thanks to the police department 01:00:04.560 --> 01:00:07.160 for coming and helping us shut down the park, 01:00:07.160 --> 01:00:09.400 and that was super helpful, 01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:10.720 because that meant more of our people 01:00:10.720 --> 01:00:12.800 could actually participate in the training. 01:00:12.800 --> 01:00:13.800 Cool, thank you. 01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:14.640 Yep. 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:18.800 Okay, any other questions this evening? 01:00:20.440 --> 01:00:21.760 So looking at my calendar, 01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:24.520 it looks like September 14th, 01:00:24.520 --> 01:00:27.080 Monday, September 14th is our next meeting. 01:00:28.240 --> 01:00:29.480 Back to our schedule. 01:00:30.600 --> 01:00:32.240 And the last item on our agenda 01:00:32.240 --> 01:00:34.520 is a motion to convene in closed session, 01:00:34.520 --> 01:00:39.120 pursuant to Wisconsin statute 1985 1C 01:00:39.120 --> 01:00:41.880 for the purpose of considering employment, promotion, 01:00:41.880 --> 01:00:44.960 compensation, or performance evaluation data 01:00:44.960 --> 01:00:47.720 of a public employee over which this 01:00:47.720 --> 01:00:50.320 police and fire commission has jurisdiction 01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:52.760 or exercises responsibility, 01:00:52.760 --> 01:00:56.000 to which review job applications received 01:00:56.000 --> 01:01:00.160 to date for the position of full-time police chief. 01:01:00.160 --> 01:01:02.240 It's a voice, vote, Ed. 01:01:03.400 --> 01:01:05.200 One, so moved. 01:01:05.200 --> 01:01:06.040 Oh, sorry. 01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:08.280 Second. 01:01:09.240 --> 01:01:10.760 And a voice, vote. 01:01:11.760 --> 01:01:12.600 Aye. 01:01:12.600 --> 01:01:13.440 Aye. 01:01:13.440 --> 01:01:14.280 Aye. 01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:15.120 Aye. 01:01:15.120 --> 01:01:16.280 Okay, we're in closed session.