1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 You 2 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Okay, the meeting will come to order secretary will take the role we have a quorum barely and first order of business is election of the chairman vice chairman we do that by Robert rules of order I asked for nominations and 3 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:11,000 We'll see what happens. So, excuse me, the election chairman of the harbor commission is now open for nomination. 4 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:28,000 No, last year, but it seems like last week, doesn't it? Yeah, I nominate Harold Grun. 5 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:34,000 And I have to say three times. Are there any other nominations? 6 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations? Hearing none, nominations are closed. 7 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,000 And we have a chairman again. 8 00:01:49,000 --> 00:02:03,000 I am now going to open the nomination for vice chairman. 9 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:11,000 Somebody wants it. 10 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:15,000 I'll second. 11 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Are there any other nominations? Are there any other nominations or vice chairman? 12 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:25,000 Any other nominations hearing none. 13 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:33,000 Nominations are closed and Tim, congratulations. 14 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,000 They're all hard. Okay. 15 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,000 Minutes of the previous meeting. 16 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:51,000 Any additions or corrections. 17 00:02:51,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Hearing none, I would entertain a motion they be approved. 18 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,000 Second. All in favor say aye. 19 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,000 Aye. Opposed. Motion carried. 20 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Any public comments? I don't see anyone here. 21 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:16,000 The financial report. Dennis. 22 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:22,000 Lisa. Lisa does. Yes. All right. 23 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:29,000 So you had your financial report sent to you. 24 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:34,000 This year was definitely a slow start. April and May were. 25 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:43,000 Pretty slow for us. We finally picked up about the middle of May and Labor Day weekend, or excuse me, Memorial Day weekend was. 26 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:50,000 A great weekend for us. We were very busy that weekend, but coho fishing sadly didn't pick up until the middle of May. 27 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:57,000 Where last year it picked up the middle of April. So we kind of lost a month and a half of some really strong business this year. 28 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:03,000 But beyond that, fishing picked up and we are starting to. 29 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:08,000 To make up some of that revenue if the weather would cooperate, that would be great. 30 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Beyond that slip fees are pretty much in. It doesn't show all the slip fees for the North slip because those were due on June 1st and this goes through the 31st of May. 31 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,000 So all of the slip fees are in. 32 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,000 And we are continuing to rent out the North side of Pier five. 33 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:37,000 As people go back there and try it out and see if they're ready to take a slip on the North side of Pier five. So we have a couple more slips that will be rented, but beyond that all the slips are full. 34 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:45,000 And just waiting for business to pick up and fuel sales to pick up and everything to pick up hopefully. 35 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 What about the daily launches? 36 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Daily launches are down. 37 00:04:49,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Yep, season launches are doing well, but the daily launches were weighed down in compared to last year, over the last two years when the fishing started really early for us. 38 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,000 Hopefully we'll pick that up as the season goes on, but season launches are selling very well. 39 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:13,000 We're about three-fourths of the way to budget. I think we're at 23 grand right now and budget is 26. 40 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:17,000 Very good. 41 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,000 Does anyone have any questions or concerns on the financial report? 42 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:36,000 No. 43 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:58,000 No, not really. 44 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:07,000 So the updates are all there and read for you. So that's kind of where we stand as of where we are currently. So. 45 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,000 Beyond our. 46 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,000 Next. 47 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:46,000 You still have a tenant relations person. 48 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:57,000 That is still Stacy to my knowledge. I think she was going to maybe hand that off to Bob Miller potentially. 49 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 But I think that's all in the works right now. 50 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:33,000 And. 51 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,000 Yeah, I think everybody got in their packet. Oh, I didn't get that one. 52 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:45,000 Oh, that's kind of like a breakdown of what we've got for the next few years. 53 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:49,000 It's planned. Okay. 54 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:55,000 And if there's any comments on to. 55 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,000 The redevelopment of the. 56 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,000 North building. 57 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Some suggestions. 58 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,000 Feel free to make them. 59 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:14,000 So we're. 60 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Saying that kind of $91,000 to. 61 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 Design. 62 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 The building. 63 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Yes. 64 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,000 And what. 65 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,000 About a million to do it, right? 66 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,000 Yeah. 67 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Did you get bids or how does that work? 68 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,000 That'll be. 69 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,000 That'll be either later this year or. 70 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:52,000 The first part of next year. That's what we had started kind of doing in January. 71 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,000 And then they wanted us to kind of revisit this. 72 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:05,000 So these will, if we can do it later part of this year, that's when it will start and or the early part of next year. 73 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,000 Is what we're hoping. 74 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:11,000 Now these. 75 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,000 Perking lot lights. Are they not functioning? Are they. 76 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:18,000 Just old. 77 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,000 They're talking about some new designs. 78 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,000 They're functional, but they need to be repainted. 79 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:29,000 And if we were to redo them, that was the, that was the price that was estimated. 80 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,000 Okay. 81 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 So it'll have to get new ones then. 82 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,000 Right. 83 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:37,000 Well, I'm getting sticker shock here with the. 84 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,000 These. 85 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Oh, these are all estimates, of course, that we're giving. 86 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,000 And all of these projects are. 87 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 You know, like they say, these are just projects that we put in the capital improvement plan. 88 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:55,000 It doesn't mean that these will happen next year or the year after that. This is kind of like just our schedule of them. We're hoping these things will get accomplished. 89 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 Well, we need to discuss these. 90 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,000 Thank all of them. 91 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,000 Gaspard brought that up at the last meeting that we got to. 92 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:08,000 At least discuss these issues there. They're going to get to us, especially like this. 93 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,000 North slip. 94 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:11,000 Yeah. 95 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,000 Walkway. 96 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 Well, they tell us to put in a five and 10 year plan and. 97 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,000 As we look ahead to what we want to do. That's why we put in this stuff. 98 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Right. 99 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:22,000 And. 100 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:23,000 Right. 101 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,000 The North slip is going to be like building a new marina. 102 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,000 Yeah. 103 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Did we ever get an answer as to whether that could be floated. 104 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,000 Floating desk. 105 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Yes. 106 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,000 And we can do it. 107 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,000 Yes. 108 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:40,000 Well, then what that price ends up to be almost cheaper than going the other route. 109 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Well, the price for the floating decks is. 110 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:53,000 Anywhere from like 1.3 to 1.5 million depending on what the decking is that you get. 111 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Yeah. 112 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,000 And then we did get. 113 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:05,000 A number which was when we had talked to Rob and put in the 2.5 when we talked to Robin Roger last week. 114 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:11,000 That was based on the floating docks plus what it would cost for demolition and. 115 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:18,000 Them to install the floating docks. However, that cost, we just got that back late Friday. 116 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:24,000 And then it ended up being a little bit more than anticipated, but I think he's planning on pulling out all the pilings. 117 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,000 So we have to go back and revisit that with him. 118 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,000 Because. 119 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:35,000 Dennis, you know, would want it to go over the existing pilings like he had asked them to do with the main marina. 120 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Yeah. 121 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,000 Which worked out well. 122 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 But what did they have to make sure that the measurements were. 123 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,000 Right. 124 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Well, Atlantic Miko, which is now the company that built the main marina. 125 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,000 They are the company that looked at this. 126 00:11:53,000 --> 00:12:01,000 And they were able to do the entire marina without pulling out all the pilings, which was recommended by the designer. 127 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:02,000 Yeah. 128 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,000 And that saved us probably. 129 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:05,000 I don't know. 130 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,000 They couldn't pull them out anyway. They had to send divers down. 131 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:15,000 So it can't be done. And that's what you decide to do. 132 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,000 It might be more expensive, but in the long run, it solves a lot of problems. 133 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:23,000 And we would not lose any slips or any. 134 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,000 Any. 135 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:28,000 Area for travel. 136 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:34,000 That was the main travel area would remain the same. 137 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:38,000 But they would have to pull out all of those, all that walkway. 138 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,000 Yeah. 139 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:46,000 The present walkway would have to be demolished and removed along with all the steel. 140 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:56,000 And then put in a floating walkway with, I believe it's a ramp on each end for access. 141 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:04,000 And the high water, low water would be no longer an issue. 142 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,000 Or at least shouldn't be. 143 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,000 Chad, you're in the charter area. What was your, what's your group's opinion about that? 144 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:18,000 I don't mind the floating peers. I mean, the existing peers the way they are. 145 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,000 I also have bigger boats that are taller. 146 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,000 So I'd have to put steps up going into my boat. 147 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,000 So that'd be a pain for me. And probably most of the boats would be like that. 148 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,000 And then how do you get wheelchairs in there and stuff like that? 149 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 I'm perfectly happy with what they are now. 150 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,000 Well, that's what we need to know. 151 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,000 Yeah. 152 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Well, we want to go with the pilings. Aren't they in the middle of the finger peers? 153 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Well, one is you have to take that out. Okay. 154 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,000 There's one at the end too. One at the end could be used. 155 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,000 Okay. 156 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:56,000 Yeah, I would, I mean, I can talk to everybody in there, but I would, I like it the way it is. 157 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Well, when we get to that point, which is not yet, it's a ways off. 158 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:05,000 I hope it's five years off, but when they start to rot, they go quick. 159 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 Well, there's a lot of boards that are popping up. 160 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 It's some now that we have to replace. 161 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,000 So. 162 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:17,000 But when it's so dry, when we don't have the rain, then those boards pop up because they dry out and start moving. 163 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,000 And we've replaced just the other day we did. 164 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:29,000 We must have put at least 40 screws in different boards that have released themselves. 165 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,000 Yeah, there were a lot of bad ones. 166 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:38,000 So you think that most of the charter captains would want to keep the fixed tiers? 167 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,000 I would think so. 168 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:45,000 Really? Well, when we, like Dennis said, when we get closer to that, we need to hear from them. 169 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:50,000 Well, that's an important issue because it's probably cheaper to go. 170 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,000 It is cheaper at this point. 171 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,000 Well, the, the cost for. 172 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,000 Demolition. 173 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Well, no, the cost for them to just simply redecat. 174 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:05,000 Yeah. 175 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Was. 176 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,000 A minimum of 2.1 million. 177 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,000 And just to redecat. 178 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,000 That including the labor and materials. 179 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,000 That's including the labor and materials. 180 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,000 And then demolish everything and redo it was 2.5. 181 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Yeah. 182 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,000 So. 183 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:20,000 So. 184 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:25,000 He almost like the McMullen and Pitts almost thought like floating docks was your better bet. 185 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Yeah. 186 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 For longevity and for. 187 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 Would all the finger peers be. 188 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,000 As wide as mine or as wide as the skinny ones down the way. 189 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,000 That stuff, if you look, if you look at the picture. 190 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,000 And in the capital projects. 191 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:45,000 Those finger peers that you guys have that are wider would stay wider. 192 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:46,000 And then they would be skinny. 193 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 The rest of them would be skinny like they, they were. 194 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000 So you can kind of tell that your finger peers. 195 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,000 They're the, the NS one through seven or whatever it is. 196 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,000 Eight. 197 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Those are wider in the picture. 198 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:00,000 So that picture is actually from Atlantic Nico. 199 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,000 And that's there like them putting the floating docks over what we have now. 200 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,000 That's their, their picture. 201 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:12,000 And then all the slips down the way would not have pelican pulls in them. 202 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Is there a way to add pelican pulls down the way that was part of, of Ted's. 203 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:22,000 Um, proposal was the 2.5 is adding pelican pulls with the floating peers. 204 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:23,000 Yeah. 205 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:28,000 What are their thoughts on stability of inner peers. 206 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:33,000 Well, there's our extra wide. 207 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,000 Yeah, their finger peers are extra wide where the other ones are like normal. 208 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:38,000 Okay. 209 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:44,000 Yeah, there's originally the, those docs were made wider due to the. 210 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Oh, we didn't have this many charter boats in the beginning. 211 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,000 That's why that's why they're. 212 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,000 They're cut down in some areas. 213 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:51,000 Yeah. 214 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,000 All of a sudden we got. 215 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,000 And. 216 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,000 You know, over, over. 217 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,000 Yes. 218 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:01,000 With charter boats and. 219 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,000 They were already there and we weren't going to change them. 220 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,000 But yeah, I think that was the thought back in. 221 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:12,000 You know, the late nineties was these were the charters we had. 222 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:16,000 Nobody thought we would be that there would be that many coming. 223 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:23,000 And so all those slips that had current charters at the time were made for the charters. 224 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:28,000 And then the other ones were just transient slips at that time with the narrower. 225 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:35,000 Finger peers to step up, make steps into boats would be pretty hard because you wouldn't be able to get in between. 226 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,000 So. 227 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,000 When the water was really high a couple of years ago, we all made steps. 228 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:47,000 And railings in the whole bit, but on a narrower finger peers, you wouldn't be able to even walk out to the end of the finger. 229 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,000 So. 230 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,000 Once once we get closer, whatever else they're talking to guys and. 231 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,000 See what their thoughts are, but. 232 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:01,000 Yeah, I get an opinion from your, your whole group and see what they say. 233 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:11,000 I'm going to make an assumption that traveling is going to continue to flourish as it has. 234 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,000 In the future. 235 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,000 Well, I mean. 236 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 I got my opinion on that. 237 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,000 Yes, it will. 238 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,000 It won't go anywhere. 239 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,000 You think it's going to stay strong? 240 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Yeah, they give away captain's licenses now. 241 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,000 So anyone can get one and you just pay to get it. 242 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,000 Oh, really? 243 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,000 Oh, yeah. 244 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:30,000 Oh, easily. 245 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,000 All it takes is money now. 246 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,000 So you don't have to get training or anything. 247 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:35,000 No, you just take a class. 248 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,000 If you fail, you go another weekend, they give it to you. 249 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:40,000 You pay $300 more to give it to you. 250 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 It's all privatized now. 251 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,000 That's why there's so many. 252 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:52,000 Well, I think we do need to get that information at the right time. 253 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,000 So I go ahead. 254 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 I like the floating peers would. 255 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Would we consider extending the permanent peers past the blue bridge at all where we always. 256 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,000 Set out. 257 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:11,000 Floating peers every year anyway, or is the current too much that it wouldn't hold up there. 258 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,000 Yeah, I mean, Dennis is, he's come down with those things smashed to pieces. 259 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,000 Okay. 260 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,000 Yeah. 261 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,000 You wouldn't want to, you wouldn't want to change what we've got. 262 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,000 Okay. 263 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,000 I'll put anything fancy. 264 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:27,000 There's kind of like putting something over in the West. 265 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Well, yeah, a couple of times they got blown out. 266 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,000 I remember moving out of the way. 267 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Oh, yeah. 268 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:38,000 We had a storm down there that if you can believe it, I came down because it was so, so windy and stormy. 269 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:51,000 That a 35 foot pier was broken apart and stood up above the blue bridge straight up and down. 270 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:56,000 And when it crashed down, I remember what they said about a hurricane. 271 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,000 Tie up your boat and go home because there's nothing you can do. 272 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:04,000 So I turned around and went home because there was nothing I could do. 273 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:13,000 So at that point, we started moving those piers away for the winter because when one of those storms come in you, there's no control. 274 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:14,000 Okay. 275 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,000 Would we want to consider more finger piers at all in the North Slipper? 276 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Are we limited by DNR? 277 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,000 We're limited by the DNR. 278 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,000 Okay. 279 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:29,000 In fact, you know, when that when that was built, there were no cleats, no electric, nothing out there. 280 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,000 Yet they had the rules that you, you couldn't have any more slips than what we had. 281 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000 And the other area had to remain open. 282 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:41,000 But if you think common sense, how do you tie up a boat with no cleats? 283 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,000 How do you furnish electricity with no pencils? 284 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,000 So we had to put that all in ourselves. 285 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,000 And I would like to add regarding that. 286 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,000 I mean, that's where we raft our sailboats when they come in with races. 287 00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:05,000 I mean, it's, it's a very well utilized space for our larger vessels and for our sailboat races when they come in to have that open space there. 288 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,000 Oh, we have to have it. 289 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,000 With the floating piers to them, the walkways, he said there's a walkway down on each end. 290 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,000 Is there any in the middle? I mean, one on each. 291 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:23,000 They have talked about working that in where they are now. They would try to figure something out. 292 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:28,000 In order to get those walkways in the middle where they are currently. 293 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:33,000 Yeah, I would wonder too, if you had some charter boats that would rather have the fixed piers the way we have them, 294 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:41,000 somewhat it would rather a floating could we maybe preserve a section of the fixed piers like say on the west side or something where the bigger boats are. 295 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,000 And do floating piers on the rest of it. 296 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:51,000 There's something, something like that that could kind of, you know, split the baby. 297 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:56,000 Certainly something to be discussed. We can find out how many. 298 00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,000 Yeah, I think it would take over some seniority though. People are in areas that they like to be in. 299 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,000 If we change it. 300 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:07,000 You know, those were needed that have to go here. Yeah. 301 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,000 It would be it would be. 302 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Yeah. Yeah. 303 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:19,000 It's overall the larger boats are on the west side though. And those are those are the larger slips to start with. 304 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,000 Yeah, but that's why they're not any bigger. 305 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,000 Any bigger boats on any bigger slips just slips are bigger. Yeah. 306 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,000 All right. 307 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:33,000 If we jumping back to the north building. 308 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:43,000 Are we going to put together a list of essentially what we're looking for and put out a request for proposals and to get architects to. 309 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,000 Yes. Okay. Yes, that's the next phase. 310 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,000 Once we get into that year when we're going to think about it. 311 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:54,000 There's another 100,000 just for designing. 312 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,000 Yeah. 313 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:02,000 Yeah, we would probably we had discussed about like getting like our tenant input. 314 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:10,000 Having some sort of a meeting with our tenants to come to a Harvard commission meeting or something to get their input as to what they would like to see in that building. 315 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,000 So that would be something that would be coming up probably sometime later this year. 316 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:23,000 So looking at for 27 for design, I would presume, yeah, either later this year or getting into mid next year to put together. 317 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:34,000 Yeah, because I think we would want to probably get like we were hoping to this year get the RFP put together like the early part of of 2027. 318 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:40,000 So that hopefully this project can go to bids and then start in the fall of next year. 319 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,000 Okay. 320 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,000 Ideally. 321 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,000 Yeah. 322 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,000 As long as the money's still there. 323 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:56,000 I presume that that would that would come out of Marina funds and to it wouldn't be requested of the city for anything. 324 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:00,000 And at this point, it sounds like to come out of the Marina funds. Okay. 325 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,000 Yeah, and currently our debt service is paid off in 2029 or 2030. 326 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:10,000 2029. Okay. 327 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,000 All right. 328 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:18,000 And that the current slip replacement project was 2010. Yes, right. 329 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:24,000 And what was the total cost on that at the time. 330 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,000 Two. 331 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,000 Two million. 332 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,000 Yeah. 333 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,000 What was what was the, no, what was the main Marina. 334 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,000 Cost. 335 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,000 It was 15 years ago. 336 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,000 When we redid the main arena in 2010, what was that? 337 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:49,000 We got a very good deal on that because it was a recession country was in a recession. I think it was 2.5 million or something like that. 338 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 When we redid the main Marina, it'll probably could have cost four. 339 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,000 Two point something. 340 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Two point one. 341 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,000 Two point one. 342 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,000 I think because yeah, you're right. 343 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:04,000 There was there was some slow down and construction and they got a good deal on it. Yeah. 344 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,000 And they weren't working. They weren't putting in any marminas. Right. 345 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,000 They wanted to get that deal. So we did well on that one. 346 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:24,000 And at that time, we basically, because we still were paying on the North slip project, I believe, did we just extend the debt service on that or did we, and combine them or think we could get paid. 347 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Okay. 348 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,000 So that was so that was partially there yet. 349 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:36,000 I'm just trying to think as far as in lines of what type of debt service we're taking on from from these projects compared to what we've done in the past. Right. 350 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:48,000 And that's that's why I'm asking just just for some consideration of what of what that cost is going to be annually to have to pay off the debt service. 351 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,000 Okay. Thank you. 352 00:25:51,000 --> 00:26:00,000 We're going to jump around a little if you if you want to talk about any other project, let me know. I was just going to inquire here about the dredging on. 353 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:07,000 Pier five, the water being so low. What's the issues with. 354 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,000 People are there. No, the problem is that. 355 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:19,000 The shoreline of that at the North or Pier five. 356 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,000 Filled in a little, but oh, maybe 10 feet. 357 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,000 So that could be dredged with our with the city's equipment from shoreline. 358 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:37,000 So this this is just an estimate that was put in by our finance director in the event it had to be dredged. 359 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:42,000 But at at the area where you actually put the boat, there's plenty of water. 360 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,000 Oh, okay. 361 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,000 And the channel is is is wide enough to navigate. 362 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,000 It's just a shoreline shrunk. 363 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,000 Okay. 364 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,000 So it's not going to happen. 365 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,000 It's not going to happen until that solve, which I don't know how they're going to solve it. 366 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,000 That little park area needs to be. 367 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Yeah. 368 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,000 We talked about how protected. 369 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,000 Yeah. 370 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,000 So when. 371 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Is that something that couldn't be evaluated as to whether it needs to be done? 372 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,000 Well, the city's you're actually going to go ahead. 373 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000 The department of public works is looking into that. 374 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000 Okay. 375 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,000 So that would be. 376 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,000 Maybe park and wreck and not the marina. 377 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,000 That's what he decides what it is. 378 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,000 Yeah. 379 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:29,000 There also had been long term plans to put some kayak launch in there too. 380 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:35,000 But I think when that all washed out shortly after it was redone, it was kind of put aside some opinions. 381 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,000 Yeah. 382 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Okay. 383 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,000 Let's see. 384 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,000 The resurfacing of the. 385 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Parking lot. 386 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Did you get bids on that or how was that done? 387 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:54,000 Well, I don't know. 388 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,000 Yeah, that was just an estimate based on. 389 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:03,000 What we heard from, you know, somebody who does resurfacing. 390 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,000 We had a. 391 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,000 There was a. 392 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:11,000 A company that came in and did that whole study and. 393 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,000 Yeah, redoing the whole parking lot and changing things around and. 394 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,000 And none of it was acceptable to. 395 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,000 To the marina's idea. 396 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,000 And. 397 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,000 It never went to any place. 398 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,000 They're trying to get bids to do it. 399 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,000 It was extremely expensive. 400 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,000 But they would have been extend the. 401 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:33,000 The whole parking lot and. 402 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,000 And. 403 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,000 Rule out one of the walkways on around the entire Marina, which. 404 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,000 Got a kind of bizarre. 405 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,000 So that's not at this point. 406 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,000 It's not happening. 407 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,000 Are we getting any. 408 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,000 Grants for that pavers around the. 409 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,000 Cleaning station that issue. 410 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,000 Not at this time. 411 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 That's going to come out of the Marina money. 412 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Yeah, that was there was a budget for that. 413 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,000 If we get grant money. 414 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 From C grant or. 415 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Wisconsin coastal management or anything like that, then that would come off, but it is a budgeted item. 416 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,000 Okay. 417 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000 It should start in fall. 418 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Oh, okay. 419 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:28,000 If we covered everything here. 420 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 I think so. 421 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:37,000 And then if there's any ideas that you get anybody has down the line that we could. 422 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000 You know, incorporate in the future feel free to. 423 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,000 If anybody has any ideas of something that they would. 424 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Would like to see at the Marina. 425 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,000 I mean, I know that. 426 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:55,000 There's always the pool and hot tub idea, but that would be something that people would understand that they'd have to give up parking for such. 427 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,000 Things. 428 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:05,000 So it's just based on if there's anything that anybody would potentially like to see that they would like us to research in the future. 429 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,000 To add something into like that 20. 430 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,000 32 33 34 35 capital plan. 431 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Yeah, so if anybody's got any ideas, feel free to. 432 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Discuss those. 433 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,000 The addition of that. 434 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,000 Just me closing that section or. 435 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,000 A complete remodel of that. 436 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,000 Of that building. 437 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,000 And then Dennis and I had discussed. 438 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,000 The. 439 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,000 If it's possible with the building to be able to. 440 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:44,000 Change the public bathrooms to have the public restrooms, the entrances to be on the north side of the building and shrink them kind of like the west side. 441 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:51,000 Seen as we don't have festivals in our parking lots anymore and the need for that many stalls is really not necessary. 442 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:58,000 So shrink that down because we no longer have on site storage like we used to have and then take like the men's public. 443 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:03,000 Take half of that is storage and then the rest of it would be made into like the restrooms. 444 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,000 To the north. 445 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Yeah, we have like 13 stalls in the. 446 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Women's. 447 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,000 Public restrooms when you need maybe two. 448 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,000 We could use half of that for storage or actually half of that for the men's room. 449 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,000 And then the other area which would be empty. 450 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000 Use it for storage. 451 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,000 And enter from the north. 452 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,000 You'd enter from the north. 453 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000 You can picture that building. 454 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,000 The garage has to stay because that's all the. 455 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,000 The heating and air conditioning and. 456 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,000 Water. 457 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:45,000 It's all in that garage. You can't you can't eliminate that. 458 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,000 Or you can do anything but you're not. 459 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:52,000 It's not advisable to do that. 460 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,000 If you're going to revamp a bit. 461 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,000 It's not topic, but should we. 462 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:05,000 If we're revamping that. 463 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:11,000 Instead of going with the men's and women's room, what if we did. 464 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:17,000 Three or four unisex have four doors on the north end and. 465 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000 It's either open or it's not. 466 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,000 And that way it's not. 467 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:29,000 The lady's not waiting because there's only two stalls now instead of 16, but. 468 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,000 Also, there's no men. 469 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:35,000 That extra stalls available. 470 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Well, you can bring, you know, there's there's a suggestion. 471 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,000 That's. 472 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,000 That's what the. 473 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:45,000 All are men want us to do is have the future. 474 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:50,000 Some suggestions of what we want to do in the future or what. 475 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:57,000 You know. 476 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,000 We do have, you know, all these projects facing us. 477 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,000 And, you know, it's a lot, a lot of money. 478 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,000 So. 479 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:12,000 Each one is going to require a certain amount of that adaptation based on our customers. 480 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000 And just like the charter captains. 481 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,000 Talked about the inner. 482 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,000 North slip decking or. 483 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,000 Docs. 484 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,000 Anybody else have any. 485 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:36,000 Concerns or suggestions on these issues on these issues or are there any other ones that anyone. 486 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:58,000 wants to bring up. 487 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:16,000 We've done everything, Mike, that you think. 488 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,000 We need to do. 489 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,000 Can I. 490 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Well, as far as for the five year plan, probably. 491 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,000 But yeah, we just have to carry these are concepts. 492 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,000 So we have to, you know, get into the more of the details on it too. 493 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:41,000 And also, like I said, we should be considering what else. 494 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,000 Do we need down there? 495 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,000 What do we need to be competitive now? 496 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:50,000 I don't go for Marina to Marina the way some of you guys do so you have a better idea of. 497 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:56,000 What other marinas have, you know, that is an amenity that we should have or are missing. 498 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,000 And, you know, that that's the type of thing that I think we want to consider too. 499 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:06,000 So yeah, it's we need those ideas coming in as what exactly we want to do. 500 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,000 And, you know, like here we, we have. 501 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:14,000 Almost $5 million in capital improvements up through 2031. 502 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:19,000 And, you know, there's, there's always things that need to get fixed beyond that too. 503 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000 So it's, you know, it's not just going to end there. 504 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:26,000 It can be things that, you know, this is what we want to be our ultimate goal, 505 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,000 but it might be 10, 15 years or more before we get to it. 506 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:36,000 But if, you know, to start considering that stuff now gives us a target to look for in the future. 507 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,000 And to start preparing for the financial shock of whatever it's going to cost. 508 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,000 Right. Well, we know it's going to be expensive. 509 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:56,000 I guess my travel to different marinas ended, you know, about 10 years ago. 510 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:05,000 So some of the new people, maybe Alex and others that travel to these marinas might have some more. 511 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000 Suggestions. 512 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:13,000 Of course, Dennis, you and Lisa are tuned into what's going on in other marinas. 513 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:18,000 So right with that's what we got to do. 514 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:25,000 We got to look at these and then what else we see and what else we need. 515 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:32,000 Anything else on these, these long term projects. 516 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:41,000 Hearing nothing. I do have a couple of things. 517 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,000 Before we go to. 518 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,000 Well, I guess I can put that under item nine. So. 519 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,000 If there's nothing further on the 10 year capital improvement plan. 520 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000 Is that to counsel if everybody's okay with what we've got here though. 521 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000 I'm sorry. 522 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000 Do we have to make a motion? 523 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:08,000 You do. Does it say that in here? 524 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:13,000 Motion to approve. 525 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,000 Second. 526 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000 All in favor say aye. 527 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Aye. 528 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,000 Aye. 529 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,000 Opposed say no. 530 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:23,000 Motion carried. Okay. 531 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:29,000 Fourth coming events. 532 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,000 Dennis or Lisa. 533 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:34,000 Wednesdays. 534 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,000 We had to double. 535 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,000 No, wait a minute. 536 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Fourth coming events. Yeah. 537 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,000 Wednesday is the. 538 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:53,000 No, I want you. 539 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000 We had the disabled. 540 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 That's this Wednesday and Wednesday. 541 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,000 So 24th. 542 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,000 And then we have the Great Lakes sport fishermen on the weekend. 543 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,000 The 26th and the 28th. 544 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:12,000 And then of course. 545 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,000 Fourth of July. 546 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,000 Comes in there. 547 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,000 And believe it or not it's a national marina day. 548 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,000 Follows that. 549 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:27,000 And then fish day on July 16th and the 18th. 550 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,000 And then it's going to be August. 551 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:36,000 Wow. 552 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:41,000 So yes, mark your calendars for July July 11th for national marina day. 553 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:48,000 At the 11th. 554 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:54,000 Any questions about the upcoming events. 555 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,000 Okay. 556 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,000 Okay. 557 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,000 All right. 558 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000 I just want to bring up one thing. 559 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,000 In our charter. 560 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000 We talked about. 561 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,000 WCPA status that's. 562 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:14,000 Commercial voting association reports commercial ports. 563 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,000 Wisconsin. 564 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000 And I think. 565 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,000 Is there anything going on with that? 566 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,000 I think first of all. 567 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Explain what a commercial port is versus. 568 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,000 A regular port. 569 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000 Well, by keeping that status. 570 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,000 We're considered. 571 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000 Well, being a commercial port. 572 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,000 We're eligible to be. 573 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,000 Repaired by the Corps of Engineers. 574 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,000 For any damage done to the break wall. 575 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,000 And the. 576 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,000 The peers, etc. 577 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:55,000 Whatever is used by the commercial vessels is covered by the Corps of Engineers. 578 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,000 Now we pay the dues every year and I go to the meetings. 579 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,000 So for all general purposes, we're still considered. 580 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000 A commercial port. 581 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Does that date back to when we had cold boats coming in and stuff. 582 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:10,000 And the fishing. 583 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Well, fishing boats don't count. 584 00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Charter boats don't count. 585 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:20,000 I don't know why they don't, but they don't use that as being part of a commercial port, which. 586 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,000 They're rules. 587 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Yeah. 588 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,000 The fact that we had the Dennis Sullivan come in here. 589 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,000 The fact that we had the Milwaukee. 590 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,000 What was the name of that one. 591 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,000 That both that came in here for tours. 592 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000 It always. 593 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000 Otherwise. 594 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000 And then last year we had the tall ships here. 595 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,000 So it's just ongoing things like that. 596 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,000 And I know we've. 597 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:43,000 You know, we've discussed with tourism, which they're still working on stuff. 598 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:47,000 The potential of getting a. 599 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,000 You know, a cruise ship here. 600 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,000 Would this be a. 601 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,000 A spot that they'd want to stop being so close to Milwaukee. 602 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000 So it's just. 603 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,000 All those conversations are happening. 604 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:04,000 We are also talking with the eight of wise to see if we can ever get them to come back up here for a weekend or a week like they did. 605 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,000 A couple years ago. 606 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,000 They were. 607 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,000 They were successful too. 608 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,000 They like. 609 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,000 They like coming here. 610 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000 They made money. 611 00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,000 As far as the cruise ships are concerned being close to Milwaukee that. 612 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:22,000 But my thought was if they would use Port Washington on their way back from their. 613 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,000 Their crews. 614 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:27,000 If they could come into port and then go to Milwaukee. 615 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000 But so far no one's. 616 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,000 No one's committed to that. 617 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000 The commercial port. 618 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:44,000 Designation kind of require that we have a deep harbor that will accommodate a large vessel. 619 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,000 Or is it any commercial vessel. 620 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:52,000 Any any commercial vessel because they don't to my knowledge they don't. 621 00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,000 Prescribe what the depth of the water has to be. 622 00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,000 But we can take boats up to one point. 623 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,000 Thirty feet but. 624 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,000 Thirty feet of depth. 625 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,000 But now we're around nineteen feet because of the. 626 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,000 Crick Floyd's kind of fills that in with sand. 627 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,000 If anything had to be dredged it would be the main main area. 628 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,000 See that was paid for by the electric company when they. 629 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:25,000 When they converted from gas to or from cold to gas. 630 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,000 And that would that didn't cost the city anything. 631 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,000 So being a commercial port. 632 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,000 It wouldn't cost us anything to get it dredged by the Corps of Engineers. 633 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:48,000 And we're and we're trying to do that as Lisa said she gets on. 634 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:54,000 Tourism is trying to do something we we got the fingers out to do it and. 635 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:58,000 City I guess city does some advertising trying to get it. 636 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,000 Yeah we'll see through tourism. 637 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:05,000 Yeah it would be great to find out get some of the cruise ships to stop in. 638 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:09,000 I think our problem is we're too close to Milwaukee though if they want to stop at Milwaukee. 639 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:15,000 They're not going to go and just cruise twenty miles up for the neck for for a whole day to come here. 640 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:19,000 Let's say we're zig zagging across the lake or something. 641 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:25,000 Yeah let's say originate out of Milwaukee and then go on to make their run and when they come back. 642 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,000 Let's stop in Portland tomorrow will be in home. 643 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:35,000 But like the the the big Viking cruise ship that's on the lake I think drafts more than could currently get into our harbor. 644 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:42,000 Because I know yeah like you said it was thirty feet but now it's closer to nineteen and I would be algoma. 645 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:49,000 They had the cruise ship stopping algoma anchor out in the lake and and. 646 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:56,000 Fairy I'm in with smaller boats because the owner of or their CEO or whatever he was. 647 00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:03,000 Was impressed by algoma's nautical theme and he wanted his cruise ship to stop there so they stopped there. 648 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Algoma what 1000 people or whatever. 649 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,000 Well one thing I had heard in the past I don't know how true it is to is that there was concern that. 650 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:19,000 Docking at cold dock park means it's too far away from everything else and I wonder if. 651 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:28,000 To attract stuff like that if we would look to improve the dockage along the south side of Rotary park. 652 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,000 To be able to take larger ships there with that encourage. 653 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:40,000 More but then but then again I I haven't heard that we've had anybody inquire and then and then the side like oh you need to do this first before we're leaving. 654 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:48,000 The cruise ships I've been on a bunch of cruises date. 655 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:56,000 They can go to a dock like that they have a fleet of you know vehicles come and pick everybody up and take them to the town. 656 00:44:56,000 --> 00:45:03,000 And similarly they don't have to actually get into the town they can anchor and they ferry people in. 657 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,000 Depending on the situation so I would think that we could. 658 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:14,000 Get people if that ever became in something that could be done. 659 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:20,000 We can sort of get passengers from a cruise ship from cold out park into wherever they want to go. 660 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:28,000 And we're one of the rare marinas where we're where our harbor has our downtown right on it. 661 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:35,000 We're a lot of them like like even she boy again at several blocks before you get the downtown from from the marina. 662 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:40,000 Although they're they can go up the river and get pretty close. 663 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:47,000 No you're right that's that's the unique and wonderful thing about poor Washington. 664 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,000 I have one other item I just wanted to. 665 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:57,000 Touch base the and the charter talks about the security plan. 666 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,000 It looks like you've done. 667 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:08,000 Most of that is there supposed to be an actual written plan or what what needs what needs to be done there. 668 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,000 Well we met with. 669 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,000 Emergency management. 670 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:19,000 And we have we put we have signage up there. 671 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,000 Requiring anyone who docks there. 672 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:30,000 Has to report to the marine office and get their name and address and contact so that we can get them 24 hours seven. 673 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,000 Contact. 674 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,000 And that's been done. 675 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,000 But as far as the plan is we're still we're still working on that. 676 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,000 We met with them. 677 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,000 Back in March I want to say. 678 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:55,000 And Scott piece together he was able to reach out to people and he was able to him and John were able to piece together. 679 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:59,000 Excerpts of people's harbor security plans from across the country. 680 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,000 So they did that and then we're going to put in like our stuff from the marina. 681 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:10,000 And then they're meeting with the fire department the police department and then they'll insert their stuff into this plan. 682 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:15,000 So there is to be a plan hopefully by the end of December that will be an actual. 683 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:21,000 An actual plan, a written plan, a written policy. 684 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:31,000 And just plan out to because we're talking about cruise ships if for potential grants for helping to get any improvements we need to for stuff like that. 685 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:41,000 And the security plan is one of those things that is either necessary or at least very helpful towards winning those grants. 686 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:55,000 And also mean when we have a a a barge break loose we should have the contact information of who to call instead of having to track down the CEO first. 687 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,000 Okay, I don't have anything else. 688 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:07,000 No, you will turn if you have any business you want to bring up any member. 689 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:15,000 It's got one. Yeah, I got one thing I think I asked before. There's a couple of boats. 690 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:24,000 That keep their boats in the trailer parking lot like for a week at a time sometimes and they use a fuel pier every morning. 691 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:33,000 That I did not know, but yes, they people that leave their boats do pay a dry stacking fee along with the season launch pass. Okay. Yeah. 692 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:42,000 And they are using the fuel pier. 693 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,000 We'll take a look. 694 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,000 Oh, what are you saying, baby. 695 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:53,000 Go to the field fair early in the morning. 696 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:59,000 Oh, all right. 697 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,000 Cool. 698 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:26,000 So prior to like prior to five o'clock, so that's something we should be looking for. 699 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:32,000 Okay. Okay. So we'll look at our cameras and kind of address that. Right. Right. 700 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:43,000 No, that we did not know them being in the parking lot that we know they paid the season launch V and then they do pay a dry stacking fee in order to do that. 701 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:51,000 Well, they can't let me suggest they can't do that. I mean, we won't let them do that. 702 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:56,000 Well, they're not, they're not paying to tie up on the field doc. That's for sure. 703 00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,000 I mean, there's other areas to tie up temporarily. 704 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:08,000 Even if they left it in the launch ramp. 705 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,000 Yeah. 706 00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:23,000 Well, we'll, we'll look into that. 707 00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:31,000 As far as not supposed to operate out of the main marina, but they can, they can come with a trailer. 708 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:40,000 I don't know how we'd stop them from doing that. 709 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,000 I don't know if that affects us. 710 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,000 If they don't have insurance that. 711 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,000 I mean, they're. 712 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:56,000 That's a question for the city attorney. 713 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,000 I mean, most of them are. 714 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:03,000 Established businesses, which I'm sure they have insurance. So it's an easy ask. 715 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,000 So. 716 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:15,000 Yes. Yeah. And there's also a lot of DNR regulations about what you can and cannot do at the launch ramps that would very much control what we can ask of them. 717 00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,000 Right. So one thing we can't close them. That's for sure. 718 00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,000 But I tried that the first year I was here. 719 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,000 That didn't work. 720 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:31,000 DNR said, you know, we pull the ramp socks to just. 721 00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:46,000 Repair them or whatever needs. And then I put a line across the ramp so he couldn't, you couldn't launch because we have no way to help anybody. No, no rescue, no boats, Coast Guard. 722 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,000 50 miles away, 25 miles away. 723 00:51:50,000 --> 00:52:01,000 DNR, somebody complained that DNR said you can't do that because federal money was used to build that area in the parking lot. So you, you have to leave them open. 724 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:12,000 As far as rest is concerned, they don't care. 725 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:26,000 I can tell you what the. 726 00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,000 What's been going on by us? We got. 727 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,000 Fishing has been good for a while. 728 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:37,000 And. 729 00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:43,000 Mainly we're getting cold at that time and now we're getting everything. I guess getting Lakers and they're getting. 730 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:48,000 Kings are getting everything, but not, not too much. 731 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:53,000 It's okay. Yeah. 732 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,000 It's not like it was last year. I can tell you that. 733 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,000 Yeah. 734 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:12,000 It's excellent. 735 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:23,000 Oh, now it's called the liaison business. 736 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:40,000 Oh, that's it. 737 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:48,000 So moved.