to the council. All right. I call to order the city of Port Washington, Wisconsin Board of Public Works meeting for Tuesday, June 9th, 2026. First item is the roll call. All members are present except for Jim Pauli who is excused. That brings us to item two, a motion to approve the minutes by second and we have a second. Any question on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor? Say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. That brings us to public comments and appearances. Are there any public comments and appearances? We don't need to fill a buster to, so the computer works. Okay. Then we'll move on to item four, election of board chair and vice chair. So every year we elect a new chairman and a vice chairman for the Board of Public Works. And with that in mind, I will open the floor to nominations. Does anybody want to make a nomination for board chair? I move for my gasper to be board chair. All right. So we have a nomination for my gasper to be board chair. Is there a second? Second. Second. All right. Are there any other nominations? Any more nominations? I'll ask a third time. Are there any more nominations? All right. Seeing none, we have a nomination for my gasper being myself to be board chair. All those in favor? Say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. So we have a board chair. Now we need a vice chair. So I will open the floor for nominations to be the vice chair. Any nomination? We'll sit and nominate Jim because he's not here. Sure. I'll nominate. I will nominate Mr. Schudendorf to be the vice chair if he's willing to accept. I'll accept. All right. I'll second. All right. Are there any additional nominations for vice chair? All right. Seeing none, all those in favor? Say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. Congratulations to our new chair and vice chair. That will move us on to item five, a presentation on ecological restoration in Valley Creek. Rob. Thank you. So we have with us tonight, Melissa Kern, who I think is no stranger to our committee and Ryan Crump, who is a biologist, I'm sorry. Biologist both with Stantec. And so they've been working, of course, as you know, in Valley Creek for the last more than three years. Working under grants that we've received from the American Bird Conservancy, U.S. Fish and Wildlife, which is different than National Fish and Wildlife Foundation, U.S. Forest Service. And so they've done a lot of work both in Upper Lake Park and Burtwood Hills Nature Preserve, removing invasive species, planting native species. And of course, we're working towards the much larger project, which is creating the resilient and sustainable Valley Creek, which will have numerous stormwater or water quality benefits as well, fish passage, et cetera. And so a lot of this has been going on over the last three years, kind of under the radar. And we haven't really talked about it a ton here. So I asked Melissa and Ryan to come now that much of that work that first phase is completed to report on some of the measurable benefits that we're achieving and hope to achieve in the upcoming years with our Valley Creek project. All right. Thank you. Thanks, everyone, for your patience while we work through the PowerPoint. This would not be the same without you guys seeing some pictures of before and after. So again, Melissa Kern was Dan Tack. I've been working with the city for really well over five, seven years, you know, working to develop this project. And you can fast forward, Roger. So what we're going to talk about is give you a snapshot of the ecological restoration of some of the upland parks that we've been doing over the last several years. And then I will give you a funding update. So Roger, I don't know if you can advance it. Just to show you guys a quick agenda of what we're going to talk about. There we go. And so I list just a few of the grants and those. I'll go over each in detail, but those are ones that are either recently awarded or are still pending. So I want to make sure you guys have a good sense of kind of, you know, we're constantly working on grant funds. And so just a quick update on that. But I'm going to turn over to Ryan to give you a presentation of the upland ecological restoration work that we've been doing at several of your parks. Yeah. So Ryan Chrome, I've been with Stan Tack for like 10 years. I worked with our ecosystem restoration team doing the implementation work. So I'm the project manager for these different projects I'll present on today. We'll see some of the metrics, some of the dollars that have been contributed to the Valley Creek corridor, the agencies and kind of partners involved in just kind of what's been going on. So the first one, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, that was funding from 2023 to 2025. The city was the sole applicant on that one for $135,000 and that funded work for the city. Birchwood Hills and Upper Lake Park. I'll show some maps and stuff here kind of showing where the funding areas are in a second. The next one with the American Burke Conservancy National Fish and Wildlife Foundation to stay in our Great Lakes program 2023 through 2026, approximately $45,000 within the Valley Creek corridor. And then the next one also with the American Burke Conservancy U.S. Department of Agriculture for service 2024 to 2027. This one's still ongoing. That's about $45,000 as well within that Valley Creek corridor. So main thing to take away here, obviously the funding partners and agencies that we're working with, obviously the city and the city's been doing work directly adjacent to a lot of these project areas as well. So you go to the next slide. So on metric specific to these funding sources. So the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service funding was funding restoration across approximately 20.9 acres. That's that Birchwood Hills area and Upper Lake Park. As part of that, we did a large tree planting requirement was 15 or more native tree and shrub species planted. And as part of that grant, we planted over 400 trees and shrubs within Birchwood and cage them and protected them from browse pressure and stuff like that. And then in addition to that, we installed the pollinator planting in Upper Lake Park and had at least 25 native form and grass species throughout that planting as well. As far as the SOGO funding goes, that's part of a much larger project. So that's actually funding work at eight different project sites along Lake Michigan, Valley Creek corridor being one of them. So as part of that, you know, restoration of 238 acres of near shore habitat, stop over habitat, American bird conservancy, six acres of floodplain restoration, 51 acres of wetland restoration. A lot of these common theme is going to be volunteer and public outreach and engagement. So there's always metrics involved there. We've held various volunteer plantings as part of the SOGO funding and then moving on to the Forest Service funding. You're going to see a lot of overlap in those, but again, large tree planting being funded through that. Again, that's funding three different project sites in Ozaki and Washington County total. So those trees are being split, but we just as bring planting here in 2026, where we installed 845 trees in the Valley Creek corridor. There's a volunteer opportunity as well. So got some of that volunteer engagement. 18 acres of invasive species management. Again, this is spread across three project sites, 10 acres of native seed insulation and then $250,000 of stormwater intercepted through that tree planting. So if you scroll down just a little bit, you can see the rest of it. So this is the funding areas. It's kind of hard to see, but the red that you're seeing there in Burtwood Hills and that small sliver on Upper Lake Park. That's the US Fish and Wildlife Service funding areas. Moving down to the yellow is the ABC SOGO bluff. And then moving down from there is the ABC Forest Service funding that we just talked about. So you can see how they're connected along that corridor. Real quick, just talking about the projects, the goals and what's been done there so far. So trying to create sustainable restoration within these ecosystems. So US Fish and Wildlife Service wanted to invest and focus on habitat improvements or things like even the northern long-eared bat. Rusty Patch Bumblebee Monarchs. So that's where you're seeing those requirements of native trees, native shrub species and the high requirements of native species within that pollinator planting. Diversification, you know, the goal is just trying to create more sustainable ecosystems and trees and species that can thrive in changing climates and more adaptable, obviously invasive species management. So there was tons of woody invasives in there that we controlled and I'll show some pictures of that. It was pretty nasty in there. So we were controlling that, limiting the competition. And then obviously planting those native species. And a big thing, you know, just within this valley creek corridor is the watershed impact. So trying to limit the amount of erosion, plant species and just plants that are better at up taking that sort of water native to this region and just limiting overall erosion. And then again, I mentioned the public education outreach. So in Birchwood, we did a lot of invasive species management. We left some wildlife habitat in there. You're still going to see snags in there that are good for roost habitat for, like I said, birds, bats. There's habitat piles, stuff like that. And then the tree planting. And then upper lake park, we did site preparation, native seeding, and then some pollinator prairie management. So here's Birchwood before we went in there. So you can see it's pretty nasty. So in that picture on the right, you can just barely see the edge of our forestry mower before it went through there. That's a lot of barberry in the background and then honeysuckle on that left picture, but you keep going. Here is just some progress photos. So that picture on the left, you can see we've mowed through a lot of it. There's still some chips there, but that's kind of in the process. And then that picture on the right is a more final product. We really opened that place up. I know there's trails being planned in there and stuff like that. And then we planted trees all throughout this area and did woody resprout control. And then here, you can just see some pictures from the tree planting. So this is the pond that's in Birchwood Hills there right near the parking area. And then as you can see, we're getting ready for the tree planting and the tree delivery and stuff right there by the Birchwood sign. Upper Lake Park here. A couple of different stages here. So this is left pictures right after site prep. And we're getting ready for native seeding. The picture on the right there is after the native seeing the first growing season. It doesn't look like much, but what you see in there, those are all native seedlings that we planted. And that's just kind of what it looks like the first growing season. But then if you go one more, this is what it looked like growing season three. So lots of natives, lots of flowers. It was looking great. You can keep going. So again, very similar project goals and site work that happened here. So a lot of this was invasive species management, woodies in particular with a focus on wildlife habitat. Again, American bird conservancy did a lot of this funding. And again, a lot of this is involving, you know, improving the watershed planting native species and just kind of creating areas that are less prone to erosion. More stormwater capacity and that wildlife habitat. So we can keep going on that as well. Here's another before and after. So this is on that bluff. Portions of this bluff are actually in pretty good shape. So in the areas that we're in good shape, we didn't have to do a whole lot. We didn't actually have to do a lot of tree planting on this. The candy piece pretty good, but the honor store is full of woodies. So we moved the honey, socco, barberry, multiple rows. You can kind of see it before and after. And you can line up some trees in there and just kind of see some of that change. But I know the crew had a hard time out there, but it looks a lot better. And then the ABC Forest Service bluff that we are still kind of working on. A big one of this is the emerald ash borer mitigation. There's a lot of dead ash on that slope there. We've done a lot of tree planting in there, a lot of woody removal. Lots of overlap on these, but you can see, you know, forest service is really focused on the tree tree planting aspect of it. Increasing those habitat corridors and connectivity. So this one funds three projects across Ozaki in Washington County. And again, obviously we're doing all sorts of connecting habitats within the valley creek corridor as well. Just trying to make it more sustainable. Diversify the species that are there. They are again, same thing, like able to adapt to the climate changes and different things that we're seeing out there. We had the public out for volunteer planting in spring. So far we've done invasive species management, the woody removal, the woody resprouts. There's some wildlife habitat piles out there as well. And then the tree planting, like I said, so. This slope was really rough as well, but that area in particular, seeing there's lots of downed dead ash trees. So we opened up the canopy a lot. If you go look at that bluff there, you're going to see a lot of trees focused in those canopy gaps that were created with those dead ash trees in there. A big part of it's also the stormwater capture that I've mentioned. And here it's still just this is the planting the spring. So that's our crew out there. And some of the trees that were being installed. So my primarily primary role on this project is connect funding to the project. And so sometimes that means the city is directly the applicant on a grant application. Sometimes it's a nonprofit partner. So as Ryan mentioned, American Burke Conservancy has been a long time partner of mine and I end up bringing a lot of municipal project sites to ABC for them to apply for grants on behalf. So it's a collaborative effort that works out really well for the city because you guys are just a recipient of this really great work and you really don't have any administrative burden. There's no staff time that goes into it. It's all just kind of a win-win for you guys. So I'll keep doing that to really kind of invest in this Valley Creek corridor with, you know, supporting this bigger vision that we have. So what I wanted to do was just go through some of the more recent grants that we're working on. Some that have been awarded, some that are still pending. So starting at the top, we, the city did secure a National Fish and Wildlife Foundation sustainer Great Lakes to implement some green infrastructure projects on Upper Lake Park. And I do have an image of that later. So that grant has been awarded, but we're going through the federal compliance process right now. It's just a complicated process where we review the project for impacts to cultural resources and rare species. Once that's all done, the city will get a grant contract. So you guys at some point will be accepting that grant award. That'll come probably pretty soon. Then a complimentary to that, we applied for a state urban non-point grant, which will provide the necessary match for the federal grant from the sustainer Great Lakes program. So those two are kind of match each other. And that's another really great benefit of sort of stacking these grants as they get to match each other. So if we're awarded both those grants, then there's really no cash contribution that the city is on the hook for. So, and I do list the grant that you were awarded, you did offer $100,000 this match. Again, the intent was always that we would find other funding to make up that match. It wasn't, you know, that you guys were expecting to outlay that $100,000. And that's why we submitted that DNR grant, the one that's just down. So if you get $150,000 from DNR, then you've met your match requirement for the sustainer Great Lakes grant. Third one down is another sustainer Great Lakes grant that we are submitting for a different green infrastructure project for a Walter Street ravine project. I'll show a picture of that. And then the big one, the fourth one down is also through National Fish and Wildlife Foundation, but it's a different grant program called National Coastal Resilience Fund. So that is a multi-step grant. You guys have already received one grant and that's supporting the planning that we're doing right now for the Big Stream Restoration Project. This will support the implementation. We've already submitted a pre-proposal and you guys have been invited for a full proposal. So that's a really good sign that you guys are invited and they really like funding these pipeline projects and they gave us really good feedback on the pre-proposal. So we will likely ask about $5 million for that grant. I'm very hopeful that we will get it. We may end up funding the value, the bigger Valley Creek project in phases. So we may end up going back to the same funding source twice to get kind of roughly the same amount of money to construct the project in phases. That's always an option. But that one will go in at the end of this month in June here. And then we submitted another grant from the DNR under their targeted runoff management program. And that is to fund some of the regenerative stormwater conveyance systems that so it's really stabilizing the outfalls along Valley Creek. So it's a very green infrastructure stormwater focus grant and I'm going to show you pictures of those. So if you want to go ahead. Roger, I'm just going to kind of go through all of these except the big $5 million stream one. So Upper Lake Park, this project will connect directly with the pollinator garden that Ryan was talking about in the northwest corner of Upper Lake Park. There are stormwater outfalls that are discharging right at the top of some eroding gullies. They're causing massive erosion. And that's really contributing to the destabilization of Valley Creek and why we're doing this big project is to try and keep the sediment and slow the water down. So the intent here and here is put together this conceptual design is that we'll essentially build some rain gardens and some detention basins that will capture and store potentially and filtrate some of that storm water. So we'll have less water going down into the ravine. We'll still have to have water going down there, but the thought is we'll stabilize that outfall. And then this project and you know, the thought is that will be in the upland areas will be planting prairies. So eventually this will blend seamlessly into the prairie that you guys have already started restoring up there. And again, the two different grants, the federal grant from Solville for 375 that you have already been awarded will be matched by the hopefully by the pending DNR grant. We'll hear back sometime this late summer fall on that one. Go ahead, Roger. So this other urban stormwater grant is for regenerative stormwater conveyance. They're essentially, I think I do have some pictures after this, but they're meant to stabilize some of the outfalls that are discharging directly to the creek. And under this grant for roughly about $219,000, we are planning to fund at least six outfall locations. Erin, I don't know if you remember there are like 20 RSCs that you're envisioning along the valley creek corridor. Oh, so there's roughly about like 20 RSC locations. This grant will fund at six of them so we can go back next year for the same grant to fund more of them. So this isn't a one and done. This could be an annual thing where we have this, you know, roughly $200,000 to fund multiple stormwater. And I presented it to DNR as a multi phase approach. Go ahead. So this is just an image showing what the current condition is on the left. I would say most of your outfalls look like that where they're just perched in hanging and, you know, they're not constructed that way. That's just how much the creek has eroded over the years. So we definitely want to fix that. Do whatever we can to infiltrate, slow the water and treat it a little bit right at the outfall location and then, you know, have some intense stabilization when the water intersects the creek. So that's on the right is what, you know, an image of what that could look like. And then the other big regenerative stormwater is to focus on the Walter street ravine. So this is a big ravine where you have an outfall at the top of the ravine. It's discharging stormwater that's eroding that whole gully there. And so the thought is to have a series of regenerative stormwater, you know, conveyance that whole way through. So it's going to be like a step pool conveyance where, you know, the water kind of slows down at a pool and then it goes over like a rock outfall and then it goes into another pool and we do that the whole way down the ravine. So we did submit most recently for a solo grant and the amount of 365, I think it was. And we will and we just submitted the pre proposal. So we'll find out in probably a couple weeks if we're invited for the full proposal for that one, but this is current condition of Walter street ravine. And then I think the next image is a kind of rough. You can kind of barely see the the rough concept of what that would look like, but we're essentially looking at stabilizing that whole ravine. So that'll be a big project. We are offering a one to one match. So that match will come in the form of maybe other grants or some of the TID money that you guys have to fund work along the larger stream project. So I think that was the last slide. Any questions from us? I have a few. And talk to me like I'm a five year old because this is all new to me. So how is the storm water intercepted by tree plantings explain that concept? So there's a lot of water circulating through trees. So they do a really good job bringing water down into their root system and supporting groundwater recharge. So like a sponge kind of. And so there is a metric of tree of like one inch DBH will over the course of a year capture and infiltrate about 100,000 gallons of water. So trees do a good job at making. And then the native seedling in Upper Lake Park. So along with water retention, what else is that going to do rather than just natural grass and that we cut? So the question is the. What was the purpose of the native? Yes. Yes. So the grant that funded that was very focused on wildlife habitat enhancements. So establishing native plants is good for pollinators, birds, bats. So the intent was to, you know, when we get rid of the invasives, there's can sometimes be like a bear area that you want to then replant with natives to help out compete additional invasives that may want to come in, but also provides great habitats for wildlife. Okay. And then also deep. Yeah, I mean, so I would say a poll on air planting does act a little bit more like a sponge, you know, like a native prairie and grass, you know, going to filter water a lot better. But also with the US Fish Wildlife Service folks in a wildlife and stuff. I mentioned the rusty patch bumble bee in monarchs. So all those species that were picked for that planting were focused on benefiting, you know, with those species in mind, you know, there's preferred. Natives out there for those species and those are all in that mix and stuff like that as well. Okay. And then. And then the. So we're looking for more stormwater capacity, which will take it away from runoff into the bluff, which goes into that. Sand seam that that's causing all of that. Bluff to fall. So that's the purpose of all of this upstream and downstream. Yeah, we want to slow the water down as much as we can and infiltrate as much as we can. Okay, thank you. You use the term woody, re spout, re sprout control. I assume that's just to keep those invasive species from growing back. How do you do that? Yeah. So we spray an herbicide over the foliar application. So on the on the leaves once they leaf out, we did treat stumps as well with low volume, just like a sponge on the end of a mop stick. Basically, and just treat the stump as we cut it. And some, some of them re sprout some don't. And then you're still just going to have seedlings popping up from the seed bank and stuff like that. So we just prevent that from coming back and let the Natives take over. And then eventually a lot of these areas will even get shaded out with just trees that we planted and stuff like that. So, and you did re sprout control for two years, two years on all of them, at least. And more re sprout control is needed. So when we think of this big project, you know, always be thinking about bringing more money to the project to continue that effort. Sure. So, for, because you have it up, the Walter Street ravine design concept, is that going to allow for a trail to continue with that? And would that be funded under this as well? Or would that have to be a separate grant or funded through city funds elsewhere? Yeah, this project, the bigger project keeps growing and scope and scale, which is great. You know, I want us to think big about this project and include everything that we want to do. So yes, ideally the stabilization would be would have a corresponding trail system. And we're internally thinking about what that would look like, whether or not we can fund it all at the same time. I don't know, that's where I introduced the concept of there's going to have to maybe be some phases to how we construct this project. But at least if we have a vision that the community and the city have bought into, then I can, you know, fund the project over time. Okay, thank you. Yeah, it kind of ties into my question. Have we thought about the long-term plan for the mountain bike trails that are already down there? Yeah, we met with the mountain bike trail crew a couple weeks ago to talk about all the different trails. There is going to be some impacts to their trail system from the grading. Also, some of the reamyandering of the stream is going to intersect some of their trails. They are thrilled, by the way, that we engage them and we spent time walking through the corridor and discussing what the trail system could look like. And they're really hopeful about kind of a new and improved trail system. And they're super jazzed about helping with this project. Thank you. Those bike trails are really cool down there in the middle of the city. Yeah. Right, are there any other comments or questions? All right, you have anything else? No, thank you. All right, that will move us in to item six. Consideration and possible action on a national fish and wildlife foundations sustain our Great Lakes grant application for a regenerative stormwater conveyance system in the Valley Creek watershed. Rob? Okay. All right. Yeah, Melissa and Ryan just touched on on this. This is part, this is an application that we have submitted. We haven't heard back yet whether we'll be invited to submit a full proposal, but we would like to apply what if we are invited for again for a grant to support the regenerative stormwater conveyance system. And again, that is for, oops, I want to make sure I got my right. $365,000 and again, that match. So we are, you can choose the match that you wish to submit as part of your application. We would use matching funds from both the advantage donation and the TID 5 budget. And so we are recommending that we do submit a full proposal if invited to do so. And again, this is for the Walter Street ravine that was just shown. Okay. Any comments or questions on the item? Just one small one. Is stand tech, not that it matters, but do they serve Ozaki County? Are they one of their clients or any other adjoining municipalities? Only a lot. Yeah, they work with, well, they'll tell you. Yeah, we've, is this on? We've done work with Ozaki County in the past. I'm not aware that we have any active projects with them, but I'm not 100% sure on that. We are the town engineer for the town of Grafton. We have, you know, over the years worked with numerous other municipalities in Ozaki County. Yeah. I was just looking to see about, you know, the whole picture, you know, farther upstream than our region below to the west. Yeah. Obviously to the Easters. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean, we did a Valley Creek watershed plan and, you know, looking at entire watersheds is definitely important. Yeah. Let's note the, the TIFF V property with the data center is the, is the headwaters of Valley Creek. So we do essentially have projects and control of the entire watershed of Valley Creek right now, which is, I think, pretty unique almost anywhere to have that control. Yeah. Any other comments or questions? Seeing none, I will entertain a motion on this item. I'll move to approve the staff recommendation. All right. We have a motion by Alderman Miller. Is there a second? I'll second that. Second by committee member Polly. Any comments, questions on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. That moves us to item seven consideration and possible action on a national fish and wildlife foundation national coastal resiliency fund grant application for the Valley Creek corridor project. Okay. So, yes, these, these, so the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation, they have different. Grant opportunities. I just want to just talk about sustain our great lakes. This is the National Coastal Resiliency Fund. As Melissa said, we already have one grant from them and we're using that as our planning and engineering funding. So our major planning and funding. Funding for engineering. So this is, yes, this is for construction and we've been invited to submit a proposal, a full proposal. For up to $5 million. And so we're very excited about the opportunity to submit that proposal and the recommendation is that we. Do submit that proposal for $5 million towards construction. Love to see this come to fruition. So there is that we are going to submit it with a match. And we can use the, the vantage grant as part of that match in addition to the money that has been set aside and did five for this work. All right. Any questions or comments on this item? If not, it'll entertain a motion. I'll, I'll make the motion to approve. All right. We have a motion by committee member. Is there a second? Second by committee member Polly. Any questions or discussion on the motion? Seeing none. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. That moves us to item eight. Presentation on stormwater management plan updates and the Northeast Lakeshore total maximum daily limits requirements and impacts to Port Washington. This is a discussion only item. Hi, I'm Aaron Volkening. I'm a water resources engineer with a stand tech have been working on this project with city staff. This is an update to the city wide stormwater management plan that was originally prepared around 2008 has not been updated since then. The city obtained a DNR grant to help fund this update. If you want to go to the next slide, Roger. This is sort of introducing this project tonight. My understanding is we will likely be back to talk about a couple of specific details of the project. There are some ordinance changes that are recommended. There is a full report 100 plus page report that's being finalized that I think you will get for review at some point. But I think you've been provided the executive summary in the meeting packet and just sort of want to introduce the project to you today. We start talking about this. I like to have everyone keep in mind the reasons for municipal stormwater management plan and why do we talk about stormwater management? I think it's important to remember that there's general reasons we do this and then there's specific regulations that the city has to follow. Most of you are probably familiar with the negative impacts of stormwater. Things like reduced water quality erosion, which you've certainly seen in some of the streams in the city. Flooding impacts on infrastructure and property and stuff like that. All good reasons to effectively manage stormwater. There's also regulatory requirements. The city has a discharge permit from the DNR, what's called an MS4 discharge permit that has certain requirements. That sort of flows down from the Clean Water Act, which is a federal law and then there's state administrative code. There's also some more recent sort of water quality regulations or water quality requirements called TMDLs or total maximum daily loads. I'll talk a little bit about tonight. Kind of keep that in mind. We're sort of doing this for two different broad reasons. We've got just sort of general good ideas and good practices. And then we've also got specific regulatory requirements that the city has to meet. Next slide. And the plan is sort of organized around two different frameworks. One of them is what we call minimum control measures. There's six different areas that the city program has to have according to its discharge permit relating to things like construction erosion control, management of runoff, after development, pollution prevention, which relates a lot to municipal operations and public works practices. Two different categories related to like public education and public outreach and involvement. And then also illicit discharge, which is when non storm water stuff is being dumped or discharged into the system. The other part of the project is a storm water quality analysis on different pollutant loads that are being generated by the storm storm water system. Next slide. We reviewed the current city plan in line with these minimum control measures that the permit requires that the city does. And there's a lot of positive things that the city has accomplished and can point to. The city has a lot of development going on right now as we all know. And several of these permit requirements relate to managing that development. I think in general that the city is doing a good job at that. As Rob has talked to you about, the city has made a big effort in reducing chloride use, salt use during the winter for snow and ice control. That chloride has some pretty significant water quality impacts. And I know that Rob is presented on the great progress that the city has made in that area. And that comes under the pollution prevention aspect of the permit, something that the city can point to as like a quantifiable change. You participate in a regional storm water education program led by what's called Sweet or the Southeastern Wisconsin Watershed Trust. I think they do a pretty good job at leading that. Public education and outreach is required by your permit. And a lot of communities choose to participate in that regional effort. You know, it's a lot more effective than you guys like developing a whole program on your own. You guys supplement it I think with some nice city specific things and then also participate in that regional program. You've recently purchased a couple new street sweepers. They are vacuum type sweepers. They're noticeably more efficient at removing material, picking it up compared to the older mechanical broom type sweepers. And you're able to get some numeric pollutant reduction credit because of that change in street super equipment. And then finally, as we've heard tonight, the city has some really comprehensive multi-benefit programs and investments. They're making in different areas in the city, different watersheds and different water bodies like the Valley Creek Project. And there's a lot of different benefits as you've heard tonight. One of those is storm water management. Next slide. We do have some recommendations related to these minimum control measures. There's some ordinance changes are recommended to sort of bring parts of the ordinance in line with current state and federal regulations. And also sort of reflect how the existing ordinances have worked and what could be improved. So I think that's something my understanding is we'll probably be bringing forward in more detail at a future date. The DNR is placing an increased emphasis on inspection and maintenance of privately owned storm water BMPs. Not that the city has to fully do that, but private owners are supposed to be doing that. And over time that the DNR is going to look for more record keeping on that. We definitely recommend continuing to participate in this regional public education and outreach program. There's potentially some changes that could be made to municipal leaf management. Related to meeting these TMDL requirements that I'll talk a little bit about. And then just some administrative procedures related to how permits are handled and stuff like that. Next slide. The other part was a storm water quality analysis. We use computer models, computer software to estimate the runoff that's being generated in the city system. Certain pollutants, things like what we call total suspended salads, phosphorus, which is a, you know, some phosphorus is essential of a life. But in general, urban storm water has too much phosphorus that causes things like algae blooms, you know, decreased water clarity, stuff like that. We compare those pollutant loads to regulatory requirements. And then we look at some strategies or some projects to reduce those pollutant loads. So next slide. I mentioned this idea of a TMDL or a total maximum daily load. And that's a water quality plan or a water quality, you know, sort of a regulatory requirement that is done by the state and it's approved by the EPA. And the idea is that they look at water bodies that are said to be polluted or they're not fully meeting their water quality standards. And they figure out, okay, you know, what's the maximum amount of pollutant loads that water body that we could allow and still meet those water quality requirements. They compare that to, you know, what we think the current loads going to that water body actually are that's based on monitoring field measurements as well as modeling. And often what we find is that the allowable or the target pollutant loads are generally lower than the current discharges. So, you know, too much pollution is being discharged and oftentimes they're much lower. The idea behind a TMDL is that it's supposed to be water body specifics. You're supposed to look at actual conditions in that water body. There are some older regulations that are sort of more blanket. Like, if you know anything about stormwater regulations, there's a statewide requirement for 20% suspended salvage reduction. New development has like, you know, sort of blanket statewide reduction requirements. And, you know, there was a thought that, you know, those don't really necessarily always reflect what's really going on in an individual water body. So, the TMDLs are more water body focused. If we do see this gap, then permit holders like the city has its MS4 permit. You know, wastewater treatment plants have permits, certain, you know, industrial plants have permits. They have to make reductions in the future. The city is in two TMDLs right now, the Milwaukee River TMDL and the Northeast Lakeshore TMDL. And if you want to go to the next slide, Roger. The Milwaukee River TMDL is a little bit earlier or a little bit older. It was became effective in 2018. It requires total suspended salads or TSS and phosphorus reductions from two different drainage basins in the city. Might be able to see them and purple there. So, these are the areas of the city that drain towards the Milwaukee River rather than more directly to Lake Michigan. You know, it's, you know, not a real large part of the city. You know, more of the city drains more directly to Lake Michigan. But there were pollutant reduction requirements that are needed to meet this TMDL. The good news is that the city is currently meeting these requirements now. That's partly a result of how past development in these areas were managed. You know, these are some of the newer, you know, developed areas of the city where you were putting in stormwater ponds and stormwater treatment practices as they were developing. And then the city has also done a couple of recent projects to boost that pollutant removal even more. You did a retrofit at a stormwater pond in the Misty Ridge area. There was some infiltration testing that was done. And so the good news is that it has all helped these TMDL requirements to come to be met for the Milwaukee River TMDL. If you want to go to the next slide. The Northeast Lakeshore TMDL covers most of the city there. And it became effective in October of 2023. And, you know, sort of the not so good news is that there's a long ways to go to meet some of these pollutant reduction requirements for TSS and phosphorus. It's divided up into a couple different drainage areas. There's Salt Creek and Mineral Spring Creek are kind of lumped together there. Valley Creek and some areas that drain directly to Lake Michigan or hand a little bit separately. But, you know, the exact numbers aren't super important at this point. But what's important is that there's a big gap between what the TMDL says is ultimately allowable and what's that right now. If you want to flip to the next slide. You know, a challenge, I guess one of my key messages for tonight is we want to start thinking about how to meet this because it's going to be a long process and that's okay. But it's going to be a challenge. One of the challenges is that the TMDL requires you to figure out how to reduce pollutant loads from already developed areas. So, you know, new development has its stormwater management requirements. So like when the data center came in, they have to do very stringent stormwater management. When a residential subdivision comes in, they have to meet stringent stormwater management and stormwater treatment requirements. But the TMDL requires you to go back to areas that are already developed and figure out how to do stormwater in those areas. And if you have a dense area like downtown Port Washington or even some of the older residential areas, how do you fit stormwater treatment? So on the left, I've got a picture of downtown. On the right, I guess you can't see it very well. But it's a picture, an aerial photo of the Hidden Hills area, which is in the Milwaukee TMDL, which meets that TMDL requirement. Hidden Hills has a lot of green space that's devoted to stormwater management. So it's got ponds, it's got infiltration swales, it's got infiltration basins and constructed wetlands. So, you know, when you do new development or when you have low density residential development, you can do something like that. You know, how do you treat stormwater in a more densely developed area? That's a big challenge. Next slide. This slide talks about some different options for different practices and the types of pollutant removals you can see. I think I'm going to skip over this for now. We can come back to this if we need to. The good news is that, you know, the regulators like the DNR and the EPA recognize that this is going to be a hard thing to do. And, you know, honestly, fully meeting these TMDL requirements is probably going to take decades. You know, that's the sort of timeframe we're talking about. So, you know, the city is not required to immediately comply with these requirements or comply with them in the short term. You know, so that's, you know, how often do you have a regulatory requirement, you know, but you're told you have decades to meet this. I mean, that's a little unusual and that's good because it's going to be challenging. But what the regulators are going to want to see is they're going to want to see regular progress. You know, they're going to want to see quantifiable actions, you know, that are definitive things you're doing. What happens is that these TMDL requirements get written into your discharge permit and the DNR sets like interim goals for you. We're still waiting on a reissue of the sort of general stormwater statewide permit that the city falls under. That was supposed to have been out by now. I have not seen a draft of it. I think it's supposed to come at some point this year and that might have some more specifics on, you know, more details of the implementation. But in that permit is going to be, you know, some specific milestones for interim progress. Next slide. Last slide here. You know, so we've started to look at and, you know, in the future, what we want to discuss is different ways to start achieving these pollutant reductions. And these are some broad categories. So one is green infrastructure. We talked about the regenerative stormwater conveyance systems that falls into that. A pretty common thing is what we call bioretension areas or bioswales. Very similar to rain gardens, you know, often built along streets now, you know, on the terrorist area, perhaps in medians, stuff like that. There's other kinds of green infrastructure too that can be effective. Underground treatment, you see a couple of pictures here, you know, sometimes if land is, you know, in short supply, people might build underground stormwater treatment. Something that we could look at. We've had some discussions with city staff is, you know, looking at parcels of land that, you know, maybe you're vacant right now, you know, or have a spot in them that's not being used, you know, could have used for stormwater treatment. The DNR gives you some credit for phosphorus reduction. If you have certain things you do with your municipal leaf management program. So that would be a future possibility. A big one of the big requirements is that when residents, you know, put out their leaves, they don't put them in the street. They have to put them on the terrace, you know, so in the grass behind the curb, and then the city crews have to come up and take them off the terrace when they collect them. So that would be a change, you know, people, you know, not everyone would like that change, I guess. You know, but the idea is that you're not having all those leaves, those dead leaves, which generate a lot of phosphorus. Some research has shown that, you know, up more than 50% of the annual phosphorus load comes during that fall, you know, sort of leaf off period. The idea is that all those leaves are not sitting in the street, you know, just being rained on whenever it rains in the fall and immediately washing downstream. There's also certain requirements for like the frequency that you would collect those leaves and, you know, street the suite. And the report is going to have some more discussion of that. You could do retrofits of your existing stormwater facilities. That's something we did at Misty Ridge Pond to meet the Milwaukee River TMDL requirements. There's something called water quality trading, which is where you would work with someone else, like a lot of times this is done with an agricultural landowner. And you would, you would pay them or you would cooperate with them in some fashion to do something where they would reduce phosphorus on their land. And you would get some credit for it. The idea behind water quality trading is that sometimes fast reproduction and agricultural land is kind of a low hanging fruit. You know, and it's often like if you look at a cost per pound of phosphorus removed, oftentimes the least costly way to do that is to do some changes in agricultural, you know, farming areas. But, you know, the city does not, you know, you're not, you don't own a farm. So you can't directly say, you know, you're going to make a change, but the water quality trading program allows allows for that. So I think that's it. Is that the last slide? Yep. So, you know, happy to talk about it tonight. I mean, I could talk for this about an hour. I think we'll be back to talk about more details, but, you know, wanted to introduce this to you tonight and get everyone thinking about it and introduce to the plan update and the TMDL concept and so forth. All right. Thank you. Any comments? Yes. What is the, what is the monitoring program for ensuring you're within specs and your TMDL? Is it that you just take a sample of water every so often? Or how do we know that we're actually compliant? Yeah. The, the DNR does a lot of monitoring and, you know, other groups like the city or volunteer groups can also monitor. There's actually a DNR database called the, I think it's called the swims database where all this monitor monitoring data gets looked up. So, so they did monitoring when they developed the TMDLs and then they, they continue to do it. And I'm glad you asked the question because the way that a, the way that a TMDL ultimately ends is if monitoring shows that the water quality has improved enough. So like, you know, what, what occasionally happens is that, you know, the, the, the water quality monitoring trends gets better. And, you know, you may not have done all the BMPs that you said you're going to do, but maybe you've made some progress. And if, if there are other things happening in the watershed and the monitoring shows that the quality has gotten better than that TMDL will ultimately end. On the other hand, if you are, you know, doing BMPs, changing practices, but the monitoring data just isn't showing a change, then, you know, that TMDL is not going to end. I mean, you know, you're not going to be in trouble necessarily, but everyone's going to have to come together and say, you know, we thought we were doing some stuff that was going to help the monitoring data is not reflecting it. You know, what do we do next? Okay. And then also, do the, do the things they're looking for ever evolved, like, mainly fast for us, but would they ever come and say, like, we want to look at PFAS now or something or is it pretty well set? I potentially, but, but from what we've seen so far in Wisconsin, once they publish a TMDL, the, the pollutants that are covered in it stay pretty fixed. I mean, you know, they're, they're working on regulations related to, like, new chemicals and stuff like that, PFAS, microplastics, stuff like that. That, that will probably happen outside of the TMDL framework, though. You know, what, what they try for, you know, total suspended salads is one of the pollutants that, that are regulated and that you're supposed to reduce. And because they found that a lot of pollutants get attached to those salads. And so, you know, salads by themselves are not necessarily a bad thing. Like, you know, if you've got clean sand or clean silt or whatever, you know, a moderate amount of it is, is okay. But what they found is that pollutants attached to those salads. And the idea is that by managing those salads, you're managing a lot of other pollutants too. Like metals is another one that, you know, we know that, that certain kinds of metals in storm water are a problem. There's usually not TMDLs for metals because we assume that by managing that TSS, we're also, you know, sort of attacking that metal source. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. One of the other ones that we see is bacteria that, that we have to monitor for. Yep. So in a rain event, if you look at saw Creek, you'll often notice that there's a, I presume a lot of suspended salads, silty suspended salads coming from outside the city coming through is. Will you be including recommendations at all for dealing besides, you know, the trading TMDLs stuff for waterways like that coming into the city? Because we do have some people to their concerned that live along the creek are concerned about erosion from it and anything that would also mitigate flooding on saw Creek coming into the city probably as beneficial to other property owners in the city. Yeah. You know, areas outside of the outside of the city. I know that. You know, Ozaki County does some work in various watersheds. The, in a TMDL, every discharger of pollutants is supposed to make similar reductions. You know, the idea is they try to treat people fairly. So the, there is also like an agricultural load reduction requirement. The, the issue is that the mechanism for actually making people reduce those agricultural loads, there's just, there's not as much leverage there, to be honest, like, you know, most, unless they're a CAFO, you know, most agricultural land does not have a discharge permit. A lot of them do have nutrient management plans, you know, which a lot of farmers have been good about developing and following. But there, TMDLs do say that this, this sediment and phosphorus load from agricultural land is supposed to happen. To be honest, you know, right now there's not as much regulatory leverage to try to force that to happen. That's one reason for the water quality trading requirement is that, you know, maybe as a watershed, you know, the most cost effective way to do it might be to try to, try to change management and some of that. Yeah, about 25 years ago, Zaki County tried to implement an ordinance that would have forced farmers to keep grass drips along waterways. And there was a very strong pushback against that and the county abandoned it. Yeah, it, it, it honestly goes back to the Clean Water Act, which, you know, I think originally is from like 1970 or something like that. There was a political decision not to treat agricultural land that the same as urban land. And, and there's, you know, probably like both sides of this year to that. But, you know, that's sort of the, the political and legal reality. Okay. Any other comments, questions? All right. Mike, can I just run there a little bit on water quality? If I'm wrong, Aaron, but so one of the issues with water quality training could be the most paying for your buck, but you're taking city taxpayer dollars training it on the town. The other thing is if the stream is not so improvement, then you're still on the hook for doing improvements in your own city. Am I correct that? Yeah. Yeah. So, so we lose either way. It's not a panacea, but it is, it is a tool. On the other hand, if, if they're like, let's say there's a big area of erosion upstream that, that truly is the biggest problem. If you were to tackle that, you know, the monitoring data might show that, that, you know, might make a noticeable difference like you were asking about. So, as far as the monitoring goes, do you, like the specific sites for monitoring? Do you monitor the stream before it enters the city of Port Washington? The city of Port Washington to see what's coming into the city prior to leaving the city? Like, how do you? Yeah, the, the DNR does the monitoring and they kind of decide, you know, where, where they think the appropriate monitoring points are. You, you could do additional monitoring. I mean, I've heard of communities doing that to try to make the case that, hey, the, the pollutant load is not coming from us or whatever. You know, it, it is a possibility, perhaps, you know, getting, getting more data to show that the watershed is behaving in a certain way. Any other questions? All right. Thank you. All right. They'll bring us then to item nine, consideration and possible action on a utility service agreement with the village of Sockville. Roger. Roger. So, we're working on our sanitary sewer service area, which, let me zoom out a little bit on this map. You know, which is largely depicted here. It's a sanitary sewer service area. What that, what that basically is, is that, that's areas where the city's thinking it's going to grow into it. It's provide sanitary services to it. Sewer pack looks at that area and they look at environmental issues and, and whatnot to make sure. So then, so then when you do actually develop a piece of this land, you'll, you submit your sanitary sewer extension permits, the sewer pack for what's called a 208 letter. They say, yes, it's in the sanitary sewer service area. We've, we've checked it out. We've, we've, we know it's not going to create an environmental impact and they for that, the DNR. So, so that's, that's the purpose behind it is just to make sure that, that you're growing in a kind of responsible manner. So, obviously, the stuff on the snore side that that's triggered by, by the data center development. And, and so we're looking at like, hey, these blue areas are canalsville. So we agreed to provide sanitary sewer. And that was already in our sanitary sewer service area. But as we, we've talked in here as what we're going to need to serve canalsville. We're going to have to put some lift stations in because of some sort of line areas. And when we do that, it's just logical then to include the next uphill area to come into that lift station. And that kind of expands our sanitary sewer service area. And we kind of look at what, what might, what might see development in 20 years. That's kind of working out. We're not thinking that this whole area is going to grow in 20 years. But, but there might be a something that happens up here. There might be something that happens over here. We need to get it incorporated. But we're not just growing on the north end. We're also growing. Well, I guess this is, this would also be considered north. But over here, this is the simplicity proven grounds area. You know, we can anticipate growth in there. And then what this presentation or agreement is here is. In this area, we also have developers calling us about developing land. And we're fighting up against sockville. So as some of you may be aware, maybe all of you are aware. A while back ago that the Shannon farm area, which is along highway 33. That's in the city's corporate limits. That was in sockville sanitary sewer service area. And result as, as for the city to develop that property. They get it into our sanitary sewer service area. We essentially paid sockville $100,000 to make it happen. So what this agreement is doing is saying, hey, here's where the city thing is. It's going to grow. Men here. I mean, so sockville's got their growth in mind. And so it's basically we're button up. And if you ladies two together, they would fit like a puzzle pieces. We've coordinated with them that we're not overlapping any lands. But what the agreement is going to say is, hey, if somebody over in this corner wants to be in poor Washington, for whatever reason, most likely is because it can be less expensive for them to get sewer for poor Washington. The exchange is just going to happen. We will do it cooperatively. We're not going to fight each other on who gets that development. So that's the purpose of this agreement. So this is the village of sockville, not the town of sockville we're talking about. Correct. All right, so the agreement basically leaves it then that it would both municipalities, it would be up to them to if a request is made to determine that it is not economically viable for them to service this area and thus agree to the swap. What teeth does that have that it has to actually be economically viable? And one side or the other couldn't just drag their feet on it and just say, no, we're absolutely not giving that up. No matter what does it, I'm just asking, does this, it's a nice, it's a nice idea that this has a cooperative agreement. Does it really do anything if one side or the other just decides that the other is not going to pay attention to it anymore? Chris Smith from VONBRIZEN will be presenting the council on the subject next week. He probably can answer that one better than I can, but essentially what I've been told a lot of municipal agreements are relatively easy to break. Yeah. But we just figured it's a first step. It puts it in writing, hopefully future councils and everybody say, yeah, this just makes sense. Development in the region benefits both communities. No. No, I agree that the agreements are a good idea to have. I'm just skeptical that when push comes to shove, it's going to hold up. But I hope to be proven wrong. Any other questions or comments? Seeing none, I will entertain a motion on this item. I'll make the motion to approve. So we got a motion by Alderman Miller. Is there a second? Second. Second by Alderman Beaster. Any discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. That moves us to item 10, consideration and possible action on a proposal from hydrocorp to continue to complete cross connection control services. All right. A cross connection control program is required by the DNR for all water, municipal or water utilities. Hydrocorp has been contracted by the city for almost 15 years now to basically manage the industrial commercial aspect of our cross connection program. So this is basically a proposal to renew our contract with them. Our previous contract was for two years. We're looking at extending this into four years. Just so we don't have to come back every two years to do this. Basically, right now they manage over 450 connections, if you will. That's 450 businesses. The city of Port has quite a few facilities that meet this requirement. So basically everybody in the city that has a potential cross connection. Hydrocorp handles the scheduling of the inspections and then they do the inspection all along the way. We're getting notified about everything. We get disconnection notices if the compliance isn't meant by these requirements. And then it's basically on us to enforce any kind of action on that. But most people are businesses comply. So we haven't had to do anything in my time here. As far as hydrocorp as a partner goes, they work very well with us. We've had no issues with what they do for us. They work with other communities around here. So they're a very known source of information for connections, cross connection inspections. We also are looking at pursuing some meter testing with them in the future for our industrial and commercial meters. We're kind of in the process of replacing a lot of older meters in the industrial and commercial world. So once those come up for testing, we're going to look at potentially hiring them for that service too. So, yeah, it's pretty, pretty cut and dry. Any questions? I have a question. Is it something that's typically subbed out in most municipalities? Yeah, actually, I should have talked about that. Yeah. Yes. The reason is most communities like our size are even smaller. They just don't have the capability of hiring a full-time inspector, if you will, or sending one of their crew members to class to be certified to do this. And if they did, it would basically be almost a full-time kind of position throughout the year. Is there a threshold where a community would consider hiring full-time, just considering the growth over the next? I would say it would have to be a larger community. And then, to be honest, with what's coming to the north, that's going to be probably out of our realm, where we're going to need a professional service to make sure that everything is up to date. I would say at paying $74,000 for it for four years. If it was twice that much a year, that's probably closer to the threshold of where we need to consider having our own guy. Yeah. So eight times the size of Port Washington, roughly. Yeah. I mean, there are communities to the north that they will have somebody do it, but then they share. They'll do multiple communities or a whole county. Any other comments or questions? If none, I will entertain a motion for this. I'll move to prove the staff recommendation. All right. We have a motion by committee member Pauli. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Alderman Beaster. Any questions or discussion on the motion? Seeing none, all those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. Thank you. That brings us to item 11, Consideration and Possible Action on Bluff Stabilization Drain Line Bed. Roger. All right. If you recall, we bid this job earlier in the year. We had nine plan holders. None of them put a bit in. Every figure to scope a work a little bit. Mostly it gave them a little bit more time to get the work done. We had two interested. One submitted a little bit. The bid was $450,000. Our budget's $100,000. So again, I think we're in a position where I recommend that we reject the bid and look at the project again. See what we can do to get more bidders and get it more in line with what we have budgeted. What was the scope of the project again? Essentially, to put horizontal drill, three drain lines from the top of the bluff roughly, behind the road, down to the toe of slope. The challenge seems to be that there's a perforated section of pipe in there to hit the sand seam, silt seam that Mary Lou mentioned earlier tonight. The water, get it off, collect it, drain it down to the toe of slope without coming out of the face of the slope. It seems like some of the contractors we've talked to have a little bit concern about whether they can do it and deliver a project that would hold up the warranty. That'll function. My plan now is to go back to our engineer and essentially talk it over and say, okay, what changes do we need to make? They talk to some contractors when they put their design together, can they shake them? People lose the bid to project? With only the one bid, is there any way? I mean, do we have an idea of what this should cost? Right now, I wish. We had a couple of projects that we couldn't. Yes, we were given engineering estimates when the project was designed, that this project would be under $100,000. So that's why we're recommending to reject the bid. And so we've, yeah, we need to have more conversations. We have had conversations with Miller. But I think we need to have more and do more outreach to contractors. So we normally, I need a given project. We don't spend a lot of time recruiting contractors. So after receiving zero bids and nine plan holders, Roger did reach out to more contractors. But contractors don't often give you honest feedback until after the, well, they may never give it to you. But in any case, so we don't know until the bid day who's going to submit a bid. And so now, so twice we've had, I'll just say, disappointing results. And so I think we're going to have to get more aggressive in determining what is keeping contractors from bidding this work. I mean, some of it is there is just a ton of work out there. There aren't a ton of directional drillers out there. And so I think that's part of the problem. They can be very choosy these days. This is a little bit of a higher, I think they see this as a little bit of a higher risk project. It's also not a very common project. And so, and if we can't, if we can't accomplish getting this design work, I think we just have to go back to Miller and say, what can we do to achieve our goals with a different design. I mean, so I think we have to have some serious conversations with Miller. They didn't work with a car. I know they worked with a contractor who we have reached out to, and they've not submitted a bid. And I think we need to, again, have more conversations. So is there a better time of year maybe to be putting this out? Is this the seasonal work? Is this something urgent that we should be doing right away and not putting off? Or do you have a better feel what maybe what we're missing here? Well, the sooner we get it in that, you know, the sooner we install it, the better as far as dewatering the bluff. But Roger put it out for bids. We put it out for bids in early spring and gave the contractor pretty much the whole year to do it. And that hasn't. Yeah. It's something like November a better time because that's often when contractors are setting their schedules. But this is a small project. Right. You mean in terms of bidding? In terms of bidding? Yeah. I guess I don't. Or can it be combined with a different project to make it more attractive? I'm not sure what the recommendation we received from Miller is that this should be a standalone project like a year prior to doing any bluff work. But again, I just think contractors are very busy. This is a relatively small project for a directional drill. I guess I don't know all the answers. Roger's had more of the conversations. Yeah. I mean, I think that I guess my mind that that's I'm looking for is kind of. Let's work our scope and our design a little bit here. Get it off the street because everyone's seen this project now for. Six months. And then bring back out because this work could be done in the winter. I mean, there's there's nothing that's requiring. In fact, we prefer that not be done now when people want to be using the beach. I mean, we don't want to close off the beach for construction jobs. So maybe that that's the thing. Part of it is it's grand funded, you know, the grant expires at the end of the year. So we'll have to look at that extensions. Yeah, it can be extended. Okay. All right. Any other questions? All right. Seeing none, we'll be entertaining a motion on this item. I'll move to approve the staff recommendation. All right. We have a motion to approve the staff recommendation by Alderman Miller, which is to reject the bid. Is there a second? I'll second. Any questions on the motion? Seeing none. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. That brings us to item 12 consideration and possible action on construction change order five at the wastewater treatment plan. All right. So last board meeting, we approve this change order. And then after the meeting, he essentially got it, got informed about four days later that the manufacturer of this role said, hey, by the way, there's, there's a tariff on this. And currently it's 50% of the materials, which comes out there on like $35,000. So that was not improved in the scope of the change order. So I guess what I want to do. So basically, I wanted to bring the hope out. We never executed a change order done with the contractor. So I thought, you know, bring it back here to discuss that a little bit. We are pursuing now and we know two fabricators per se. We'll give us proposals for this. We had talked to some other fabricators rather than original previously. But the original fabricator gave us what we thought was a reasonable price for this type of work. And then sticking with, you know, like OEM parts, you know, like on a car. But now with the price and then with additional with the tariffs, it's like, yeah, there might be another fabricator out there like that can beat that price and give us almost a good quality or almost a good fit for the product that would be acceptable for the process. So we want to pursue that. But one of the things I'm running into is timing on this. And I know if we stick with the original person that accompanied it, it was like a 16 week lead, I think, or something is pushing it out in October and getting into the time of year where it might not be feasible to install it. You know, if it drags out into December, January. So what I guess I'm asking the board for approval is we get these other proposals from these fabricators. We essentially kind of do a risk analysis, you know, between us and our consultant and our contractor. If we think it's worthwhile, you know, so look at time. We look at costs. We look at, you know, how well this will this newly fabricated structure by not the original manufacturer, how well will that work with our current system. But if all that works out, I'd like to move ahead and then come back at the next board meeting. Or official change order approval just just on the timing basis. So I would say it's the original approval was 131,000. So we're, you know, if you want to cap it like 170, that's kind of worst case. That's where we'd be at with the current manufacturer. All right. So will other manufacturers be able to meet a tighter schedule to get it or they have just as long of a lead time as the preferred original manufacturer? I don't know. We haven't heard that from. We haven't. Two of them have said, yes, we'll get your proposal. And that that's two main questions. What is the cost? How soon can you get it done? But they seem to think that they could meet the schedule. Otherwise, it's not worth third time or our time. Okay. If we have to hold over till spring to put it in, is there any extraordinary measures that we have to take to protect the facility in that time or? Well, it's shut down now in a real structure already damaged. So the part that's going to get damaged. So I wouldn't think so. I mean, we're just at the, it's 50% of our processes. If the, if the other process would go down, there's no redundancy. So, I mean, that's our risk. We don't have any redundancy and, and, and if those kick up for a certain period of time, you look at hydraulic capacity issues, but the biggest issue is lack of redundancy. Okay. All right. Any other questions? Comments? So what, what you're asking is basically just to take more time to keep evaluating. Essentially, but if, if I get a good, if I get a good proposal, I want to move ahead with it right away and not wait a month to come back here. So I, so what I, what I can do is I can talk to Mike. I could talk to people individually. I think, can I? I'm not sure. I have to make sure I'm avoiding a walking quorum issue here. But, you know, certainly not doing things in, in the dark. I let, let people know what's going on, but, but to be able to move ahead. If I, if, if somebody says, hey, we can do this in six weeks, then I can wait. So you're, you're basically asking for the, for the cost of what the, of what the tariff would be. But then you have the flexibility to change to someone else to save that money if you can find them. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I, I like the approach. I think. That's great. We can all have our mic side. Is there, was there any effort made to negotiate? I mean, we got this approved and this individual came to us after the fact with the tariff, additional tariff costs. And if there was, you know, if it is a matter of avoiding any redundancy issues, is there been any negotiations made to try to net cost down? Yeah. We, we spent, like, I know the contractor himself. Good. Cause they're, they're once doing most of the dealing spent the same amount of time and it kind of, like. Essentially run them the riot act, but, but hey, yeah. Why wasn't this on it? That this was nor on original quote you gave us. Why is it coming now? I got to go to my client and tell them cause. You know, it's a big chunk of money. They're not going to eat it. Oh. They're the ones who made the quote. We're the ones who agreed. Don't we have a contract for that? Well, they never got executed because of this. The other thing with the current administration. Teriffs could get, could go away in two weeks. I think, I think what you're proposing is fine. I'm just. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so, so efforts were made to try to get them to reduce the tariff, share the cost. I think if, I think if the manufacturer would have been willing to share some of the cost, we could have talked to the contractor and share, you know, and it could have been, you know, somewhat of a three way split, but the manufacturer is essentially telling us no deal. This is, I think they think that. They have the product. Nobody else has the product. They, they got us. All right. Less than anyone has additional comments or questions. I will entertain a motion on this change on this change that change order. I'll move to approach that recommendation. All right. We have a motion by committee member Polly. Is there a second? I will second it. All right. Is there any question or discussion on this on the motion? Seeing none. All those in favor say aye. Aye. Opposed? Motion carries. All right. That brings us to item 13 review 26-1 and 26-2 utility extension projects to provide sewer and water service to Canellsville in the town of Port Washington. Roger. All right. All right. Well, I'll turn this over to Aaron from Kapoor, but essentially he's going to give us an overview of our of our of our next sewer and water project that we have coming and sort of our impacts that's going to create with the area. Good evening, everybody. Are you able to bring us up there? Yeah. Thanks, Roger. Again, I'm Aaron Groh with Kapoor and Associates. It's been here a few times talking in front of your group here tonight. So thanks for having me. So right now we are complete with our design plans for the next phase to extend utilities to the north for Canellsville and also to serve the vantage site. Those two projects are 26-1 and 26-2 to the key parts of this are that we still are in discussions with PSC for approval. So we are still in the process of we've had a couple of meetings with PSC. We've had several clarifications questions and answers going back and forth with them, and we have not gotten all the answers that we need to verify that we can move forward with this project and submit to PSC. Accordingly, so that is one item that is going to drive the schedule for these projects. With that being said, this is basically a very similar presentation to what I provided before a month or two ago. So this first project is 26-1. There's 10,000 feet of water main and 5,000 feet of sanitary sewer. It's a long Highland Drive main branch road and then on County Trunk Highway KW up to where the boat storage facility is. Also, we'll provide sanitary and water laterals to Canellsville per the agreement between the city and the town. And we're estimating at just under $8 million for the construction costs and you add 20% engineering contingencies in there, it brings it up to about 9.4. The schedule still is hoping to shoot for late June or early July with construction considering in late July or early August. As I just mentioned before with these projects, PSC permitting is still an item that is driving the schedule, and until we can identify the permit process with PSC, we're in a holding pattern until we get that approval. Drive control detours routes is another item as far as how we broke this project into different phases. And then we also wanted to identify attractive sized projects to bring a lot of bidders to these two jobs, 26-1 and 26-2. We don't want to put out such a large project that you only have two or three bidders. We want to have normal size contracts that we think we can attract 10 or 15 different contractors that can put out really competitive prices. So 26-2, very similar. So this is 11,000 feet of water main. It's only water main and it's on KW Lake Drive from the storage facility north to Lake Drive and then east to the main entrance to the vantage project. Also add water main services along KW and to other other parcels that are within the town. This will provide secondary fee to redundancy. So what Roger was just speaking about before redundancy is a key component to engineering. And this is one of the main reasons why we want to provide the water to the north side of the project site for redundancy reasons. This estimated cost is $5 billion for construction, but if you add engineering contingencies at about 20%, it brings us up to just over $6 million. This schedule is similar June or early July to bid out and advertise with construction. This section is just water main and this is completely driven by the schedule of PSC. So instead of maybe starting this in July or August, we don't expect this project to start until at least October. Water main, we would expect to be installed by directional drilling. The PSC permits, as I mentioned before. The reason why we want to add directional drilling as a construction method is because it's quicker and it will also reduce the impacts to traffic in the businesses and the properties that are along KW. It's smaller work zones and just be easier for traffic to get around while they're working within KW. So this is a layout of proposed detours and work zones in the first phase of 26-1. So this is when we start up, we expect to start up in the intersection of H and Mink Ranch Road. We'll have to shift traffic onto County Trunk Highway H, just southbound lanes only, so only in one direction. The detour will also go on to County Trunk B to H and also on A to LL. We've met with the County City staff and Kapoor, we met with the County to make sure that they were in agreement with these routes and these routes they concurred with us to do this. One of the things that we discussed as well, could we maybe have a detour route on B up to A on the left side instead of having the yellow route that we show, which is on LL and County Trunk Highway A. We have to have the detour on LL and A for numerous phases and therefore we felt just from a consistency standpoint for those that are driving out here. If we change the detours back and forth and back and forth, it's going to get confusing. So even though maybe it'll be a little bit longer detour route, we just feel it's better for those that live in the area, so it's a consistent detour routes. All right. The roads that are under construction will remain open to local traffic only, so that's key. So we'll still can get on the construction routes when we're working on Highland or Mink Ranch or KW. And then on this first little section here on Mink Ranch and I-43 crossing will also be working on extending our concrete and asphalt pavement that's going to be coordinated with the next phase. You can go to the next sheet, please. Thank you. So this is on Highland Drive, so we will be connecting to where we ended the current construction project that just finished, which is just on Highland Drive just on the north side of the bridge on Highland Lane. So we'll connect to that point and then extend to kind of Trunk Highway H and the intersection of KW. We'll stop just short of KW and H to allow that section of road to remain open to traffic. We also want to make sure with the phasing of this that we are cognizant of the garbage drop off for the town and then also for the local restaurant that's right at this intersection. So that's one of the reasons why we wanted to stay short of KW and H to be able to allow traffic to get in and out of those areas during construction. And then this detour would be route through County Trunk Highway LL and A. Next phase, so this is the third and final phase for 26-1. So this is extending up KW and also a little bit of an extension on County Trunk Highway H. So we're completing everything else that's within that within the project scope, extending up to the boat storage facility. And then we also will extend several hundred feet up, County Trunk Highway H this season. So then the following season, if you remember our five-year outlook, County Trunk Highway H is anticipated to be constructed in 2028. And we want to be completely out of that busy intersection with County Trunk H and County Trunk KW. We don't want to be in that intersection two years in a row. So we plan extending about two or three hundred feet north into H. Get outside of the concrete pavement, the concrete pavement where that ends is where we end our project. The northbound lanes of County Trunk Highway H would be closed during this process. And so anybody that's coming from the city proper running up will be asked a detour on County Trunk Highway LL to A. Again, the roads under construction are made open to local traffic. And then we also want to make sure that we're cognizant of the restaurant that's on the intersection for this third phase of 26-1. Lastly is 26-2. So this is just the water main only in County Trunk Highway KW and on Lake Drive. The detour is on LL and A to the right and the yellow that you see. As I noted before, we expect to have this directionally drilled and then wherever there's hydrants, which is about every 600 feet, there'll be an open cut within the road. So we expect to have the majority of the road to remain as is. As they install the water main, they'll cut open a location for where the hydrants is and then continue on. So we're trying to make sure that we minimize the amount of impacts to the residents and the business owners along KW. We're also specifying that when one project is going on, 26-1, we can't be working in KW in 26-2. So our specifications are written in such a way that one job needs to finish before the other one starts. So we don't have two contractors working on KW at the same time. Again, we're trying to be as cognizant as we can to the business owners and the residents along KW. Just a question. Wouldn't it be preferable, though, to have them both working simultaneously so we can have a shorter closure on KW? Well, part of that also is driven by the PSC approval, which we expect that we won't get on this leg on 26-2, and therefore, this section likely won't start up until October. So part of that has to do with that plays a role into this, too. Yeah, I hate to see us close it, open it for a week, and then close it again. Understood, yes. We'll be very cognizant of working with both contractors, assuming that we have two different contractors that win these awards. We'll work with them to try and make sure that we minimize those changes. There's some things that you can't avoid, but point taken. Yes. Also, we identified that during warm weather, we'll use asphalt patching, and if it gets to cold weather, we're going to require them to use concrete patching. One other thing is that we're specifying to minimize potential risk or overruns to the city. We're anticipating that all this work would occur. 26-1 would occur yet all in the 26, year of 26. 26-2 may trickle into the year 2027. If that's the case, what our specifications are saying is that contractor, we don't expect for them to work from the timeframe of December 15th to March 15th. And if they so choose, they can do so at their own risk and at no additional cost to the city. Therefore, no change orders for cold weather applications or things of that nature. So we expect them no work from December to March. However, we would allow them if they wanted to do it, again, at no additional cost to the city. And I think that is the final sheet. Any questions? Yeah. On the detour route running on LL as opposed to B. Do we have any concern about, especially when Lake and LL will be closed for that project that all of the construction traffic is going to also be accessing this project? Accessing the site from East off of LL. Yes. Would it in that case be better to have that detour on B so that it is not sharing the roads with all the construction traffic? Other than, of course, when you get up to A, you're going to have an intersection with construction traffic. There are multiple reasons why we chose that. We also were looking at the tight angle on B and H as well. And if you if you ran or ran the detour with some of these tight angles. We also consideration of when the county part of this work is county work where the detours need to be done through county roads, right? So will a road might be a good application to have a detour, but we really can't if we have some of the county projects going on. Will the counties going to be paving on some of this? So those all played into it. We also coordinated these with the vantage design team specifically. GRAFE and they're the ones that I looked at improving all the intersections and coordinating the traffic signals, the temporary traffic signals that are planned for the intersection with I 43. And we bounced all these off of them and made sure that it worked with their plans and there were they felt that this would work as well. So we don't need to take any extraordinary measures at lake in L.L. just by having all the traffic piling up there during construction. Other than right now where we have sheriff's deputies out directing traffic twice a day. Well, part of the soul. Yes. So the the there will be traffic alleviated because right now Highland Drive does not have any access to construction traffic as we're completing that work. We're about a week to two weeks from that all being complete. And at that point in time, the vantage team will open the southern entrance off of Highland Drive. So about half the trucks and equipment that are coming now to lake half of them now will be coming up the south side on Highland Drive. So we'll alleviate a lot of the pressure that you have at both KW and L.L. at Lake Drive. So that's probably going to be the biggest impact of being able to open up the access point off of Highland Drive. All right. Any other questions? Yes. Have you spoken to Johnson bus company? Are we concerned about school kids and? Yes. So we've spoken with them and we also have it written on to our specifications that we will be coordinating with them. And we will discuss the contractor will be required to meet with Johnson bus once we have a preliminary schedule put together and we can talk with them as far as what the best routes are is that they need to go north or if they need to go south. So yes, that is written into our contract specifically that the contractor has to meet with Johnson bus to make sure that they are able to proceed business wise as they should. Yeah, because we don't want to hear stories about how they're an hour late for school. Yes, we understood. Thank you. Who is primarily responsible for sharing us out to the community? Because most people aren't going to watch public works meetings. So if it's because like there's this construction updates website on the vantage D.C. lighthouse campus. Do you guys have anything to do with that or is that vantage themselves? Because the last update on here was from April. So vantage has their own updates. I don't know Roger if you have any more to add to that. They're doing their own updates. We are planning on doing a P.I.M. meeting with the town public information meeting specifically Johnson bus. Piers restaurant. Great Lakes bolt. And it's got an operation in there just so that we could. Kind of have the same meeting discussion that we're having here. And I do apologize that was one of the key points I wanted to mention today and I forgot. Yeah, we are planning on scheduling of P.I.M. prior to any sort of road work construction. I just think if they could keep this construction updates website a little bit more updated with so people know what to expect ahead of time would be. So we can share I can certainly share this information with vantage and ask for them to add it to their site. That would be I would assume that they would be fine with doing that. Thank you. This is probably more of a question for Robin Roger. But since the project is going to be putting in curb stops for future water connections, are we doing any marketing at all to those property owners that they are going to be aware that they can connect to city water? Because we probably don't want it happening simultaneously with the project, but the curb stop will be there be easy for them to continue. Just want to make sure that they're all aware so that they can start making those connections and we can produce a little bit of water revenue off of those areas. We haven't done it, but I know the town chairman has gone door door to court to inform everyone. All right. Good. All right. Any other comments or questions? All right. Thank you. Thank you. All right. That brings us to item 14. Review proposed projects under consideration for inclusion in the 10 year capital improvement plan. Rob. Sure. Okay. So I will present. I can do it versus air media. I just need the number. So if you go to that. The disconnect is in the middle right in the middle of that little box to the right to the right to the right to the right a little more right. There you go. Okay. So I do not apologize. I do not have a handout and I want to preface this by saying, you know, the finance director. Essentially directed me to bring this to the Board of Public Works in July. I wanted to bring it in June and July so that we got. Information out in some conversation with the board about what priority projects are for the city. So I have a list that we have our 10 year CIP. This is very rough. This is a very this is a rough cut. The first take at it. This is the 10 again, 10 year capital improvement project schedule. And again, the purpose is I just want to make you aware of what is on our list for those 10 years. We have a number of the projects that you'll see tonight. Scheduled for 2027. That doesn't mean that's where they're going to land. All right. So, but it's easier to push a project back then to move it forward. And so I'm going to go through this. Feel free to interrupt me and ask questions. But otherwise at the end, we can have more conversation about again. It's good to hear feedback about we, you know, we of course knows about projects that are priority projects for the city in terms of providing essential services. You know, we need to hear back from you about, you know, some of the other some projects and what. You know, what are the projects that excite, excite the board, right? So that and the council. So the schedule for this is so we'll talk about it tonight. We'll talk about it at our July meeting and we'll vote on it at the July meeting and then it'll go to council on August 4th for approval by council. And so with that, I will just launch into it again. You know, it's been a long meeting, so I'm not going to spend a ton of time on this. I've been working on it to try and make it a better presentation. But in any case, felt felt short of the time. So again, this is a this is a rough cut. I'll include a touch on a little bit while we're doing in 26. Sometimes they do relate to 27 like our first project. But when you see this in July, it'll just be from 2027 to 2036. So starting with our road projects. All right. Everything everyone can see that. Okay. I apologize. They don't normally wear a little bigger. Yeah, there's no problem. Normally don't wear glasses. So these. Had a little eye problems lately. So, yeah. Okay. All right, super. All right. So starting with Holden Street and. Yeah. So these are sexually the sections of Holden Street that are currently in the design phase from orchard lane up to Walters. We are we are going to wind up. Surfacing the second resurfacing the section here, but this is getting rebuilt in what's blue resurfacing this section in front of the middle school and then all the way up to Barry. That is under design and that is scheduled for construction next year. That we're pretty much locked into, but then we do have a DOT grant paying about 25% of that $400,000 is noted there and will be happy to complete that arterial Washington Street. This is the this is the section between Franklin Street and Lake Lake Street. This in front of inventors and so some of the things that will be coming to the board with later this year is. Some ideas for streetscaping. So this isn't this isn't Franklin Street, but it is part of our downtown and we want to not only make it functional, but make it attractive place for. Our residents and visitors is Holden, including water main replacement and sanitary sewer lining. Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Isn't the southern half of Holden's already PVC. Yes. Yes. So, so that that we're not replacing. Yeah. What's PVC where not. We're not. Okay. Yeah. All right. Just. Yes. Just the cast iron or duct. Whatever is not PVC will be replaced. All the. PVC will stay in place. And so we'll be lining the mains and we are looking at either replacing. Sewer laterals up to the property line or possibly. Doing a grounding of them because we're finding that we're getting. Too much inflow from our. I should say infiltration from the. From the sewer laterals. All right. The same thing for Washington will replace the block that has. One block has. Duck line pipe. The other block has. Is PVC. So we're. Be replacing the iron pipe. And not to be difficult with it. But for next month. Could you have the breakdown as to what my other costs then is. For water and sewer utility also with it. Those are in different. Well, those are different. Okay. Okay. This is just the road. Okay. So you didn't think that was enough money is what you're. Is what you're driving at. I know it was enough for not. I know that wouldn't be enough. Okay. Yeah. Yes. Downtown streetlight replacement. This is under design. We're doing some budget refinement on this. But let's see. This too. So all these. All these squares. These are. Street lights that'll be replaced, but ignore what's in the. Marina parking lot. This does not include the marina parking lot. That would be a separate project for another day. Alley projects. We've identified. Oops. So we have this little map. This will be included in the budget, which has an alley condition rating. You know, overall are. You know, our overall. Alley condition. Pretty. There's a pretty good. Distribution between rebuild. Poor. Okay. Good new. We are focusing on these. Two southern ones. Right. Roger. And. Possibly one more or two more. Up in the north. This one here. Yes. Okay. So the. Oh, yeah. That's right. Behind Millen Street. By Woodland. Right. And possibly who we hope to do one up near Cleveland street. If there's favorable bidding, but I'm not holding my breath. Did we ever come up with a solution for the Laraby street? Alley considering that it's very much outside of the right away. Or significant portions of it. I should see her outside the right way. It's right. We're. That one's going to take a little bit more work. Okay. Yeah. So we're very unlikely that we'll be doing anything with it this year. All right. General sidewalk projects were in the. We're just beginning our. What is actually money from 2025. That was pushed over to 2026. And in the process of doing survey work for our 26 project. But again, this isn't every every year project sidewalk. Of course needs to be replaced every year to keep up with. Eliminating trip hazards. Future street projects. I'm not going to take the time to go through all of them, but this is. See if I can. And I'll have to shrink this down here for a moment. To be able to see it, but this is where we. Have projected right now these various street improvements. But these are subject to change based on experiences we have with replacing water mains. Street deterioration sometimes accelerates. These are in really, I think. Maybe it's no coincidence, but they do correlate really well to. The street condition in the presence of lead laterals coincide. So. So every street that's going to have to be torn up for. Lead service lateral replacement. Is it is a street that's. In poor condition anyway, so we're not tearing up any. Newer streets for for our lead lateral replacement. And conversely, they just bought. Well, I shouldn't say that we do have. We do have streets in our poor condition that don't have lead laterals, but. We're prioritizing those first. Okay, and they'll get us bigger again. Okay. Okay. This is off. So, and because this is expanded, you can't see this D column is is the current year 2026. He is 2027. He's 2028 and so on. So just. This is a section of sock road that's. Essentially West of. Yeah, West of Newport Vista on the sock road. There's three or four. Jurisdictions. Four. Yes, I thought. So there's four. There's four taxing jurisdictions. So we're dividing the cost. That's why that $150,000 is ended for our portion of it. That highway 33 grand Avenue. That's not the project that's that's happening. That's beginning next week. That's currently scheduled for 2034. That's a complete reconstruction of grand Avenue all the way from tower and summit down to Franklin street. And when we do that project, we can incorporate, hopefully, none of the number of the elements from the downtown plan. So we're keeping that on the radar. But. Right now, I think we have a budget number in there of $2.2 million, but we don't have an SMA yet. That's a statement is full agreement with the DOT. So I can't. I don't have. I don't have a lot of information on it. But again, it's we're looking at eight or nine years out. We talked last week about the last month about the inner urban trail railroad underpass. And that has been submitted to the federal highway administration. And so we're keeping our fingers crossed that we do get that grant. And right now we have that in 2028, 2029. Again, that is we are we as staff are looking at that as a grant dependent project so that if the grant goes away, the project goes away unless the board and the council would put it back in the budget. That first item of highway 33 crossover, it's Sweetwater Drive. So when was that resurfaces the highway this year, they will be putting in a left hand turn lane to go north into the future. Extension of Sweetwater south of highway 33 for development of the Shannon farm. Roger alluded to earlier. We're also working on. We have money in the budget this year for improvements to meet our TMDL as Aaron was talking about before. So it all kind of ties in traffic signal upgrades. So we upgraded that. So we only have three traffic signals in the whole city. So we improved the one here at the intersection downtown. And so we're going to improve Spring Street and the intersection at LL on 32 this year with that money. And traffic safety has some budget and amounts for next year for safety improvements at. Interurban trail crossings. I won't get into it. I'm going to be looking at the project expansion and renovation. As many of you know, we have a. We established impact fees this year to fund design and construction of garage expansion renovation for the street department and. The parks. Parks department. And right now I have that plugged in is 2027 and 2028. But again, this is the don't. That that could well shift and it's going to tie into. I'm likely going to be coming back with the proposal to do. A study on how that meshes with our water treatment plant. Field operations because they are looking for a new home after. They're much of their space was taken by. The plant renovations. So we had looked at expanding the footprint of the water utility building. We decided not to do that. So we're going to go in a different location. So whether or not that pairs with the street department garage, we've yet to. Closely study what is in our best interest. But in either case, we are looking at street department improvements. City Hall. City Hall, the library and senior center. I'll need some HVAC improvements. So I've kind of it's a they're all working well, but. Also nearing the end of their life. And so it's a little bit of a. Guessing game is to, you know, how long. We can rely on them, but I have that scheduled out for 2029. Boiler replacements is beyond that. Generated the generator for this building. Really doesn't do a lot other than light a few outlets in the. And the finance director's office. And so we are looking at. Increasing the size of that and its ability to power the building in case there would be a. And a long term outage. Going to the fire alarm panel is this is from our facility condition assessment. That's beyond its useful life. And so we have that programmed in. I skipped over the plumbing and city hall. Some of it is pretty poor and we've had to do some replacements. And so we're we're looking out again in like 2029 to replace all the plumbing. I'm going to take I took this one. I'm going to take that one out. That is going to go in a different section, but. Maybe it's worth noting that it's possible that we might need to make some maybe improvements as we've had some difficulties at the end of the night, but that's again, that is not. Part of the. Public works. Budget. All right, we'll skip over recreation. John will cover that with the park and rec. As well as the senior center, although I'll just I will note since I'm maintaining the facilities. We do have the sandstone. At the front entrance resetting that and windows and tuck pointing. I have that currently in the budget for next year. HVC HVAC out a little further, but again, that can all these things can can move as we go through the budget. Library don't have anything scheduled for for next year, but again, still being evaluated. Valley Creek. Again, I don't know if this project is going to begin in 2027. A lot of it is grand dependent, even though we have funding in the TID. And in terms of. There's there's only certain times we can work in the creek because of. Fish movements and so whether or not this is a project that begins in 2027 or 2028 is still to be determined. But. And. Given that our intent at least at this point is to. We are hopefully going to come back with that $5 million grant from national fish and wildlife coastal resiliency fund. And then apply for presumably another $5 million in the following year. Partly Park the only well, there's two items I want to. Well, I guess more than two. So the items. I'm not going to focus on the bathrooms that parks and rack, but moving the. Moving the road. You know, that's something I guess I want to get a feel from this board on. You know, tell me right now, but on how. We would like to. What urgency we would want to give that project. So we've talked about moving the road. Of course, we moved it on a temporary measure to. In response to the bluff erosion, but we've we've talked about. Realigning that street on the west side of the park so that it's no longer in danger of being eroded and having a. A walkway system so that that pedestrians and bicyclists don't have to be on the road. And the. And the lighting up there is we energies lighting and they've been telling me for years that it's failing. And so anytime a light goes out. It essentially gets taken off the taking off the grid. And so there are some lights out there that are. Not lit and will not be lit. And so they're eventually we're going to have to replace that system either with the new. We energy system or our own system. So I put in a placeholder. For that as well. Again, I'm showing 2027 design 2028 construction, but as you'll see as we go through this, we have a lot of things. And the budget for 2027 and. Really only me and Roger. And so there's a little bit of capacity issue that we have to address to make sure that we give these into these projects, the. The tension that they need. And then lastly here in the yellow is the grant we just talked about the. So go grant that is a grant that we have been awarded and that is the upper lake park. Essentially prayer restoration and stormwater management and that that ties into the current. Court plan. Comprehensive outdoor recreation plan shows shows these improvements in it. And so though. Those things align. I'll just know John has 10. This is from the facility condition assessment recommendations that we do a swimming pool study. So John has that in his budget. He's a number of projects over the next. Well, this year next year for his parks. Pebble House rehabilitation that is budgeted for this year. I'll be honest, we have not gotten started on that. Yet. The judge Eggert House. General repairs is underway and we are working with them also on roof. Replacement. So we had that. With the roof scheduled out of a few years initially, but I believe that's going to be accomplished this year. Late House generator. Actually called me about that today. We have yet to speak. Streets division has a number of. You know, we're on a rotating basis with our. Working with our finance director on equipment and. And vehicles and so this is reflected. On these line items here. All right, so we're televising, we're televising about eight miles every year. We're lining about two miles every year. These the sewer laterals, those align with our street improvement projects where we're going to. I never do improve the private laterals. We haven't done that in the past, but we're again, getting so much infiltration from the laterals that we feel that. Now is the time to address that when we're reconstructing. Our older streets. This is just a street overflow man hall that's. Long held project that we're hopefully finally going to complete this year. And moving on to this is. So on mineral Springs Creek, we have. Two crossings where the pipe was once under the creek and it is now going through the creek. So we want to protect those pipes from from damage of. Bolders or whatnot coming down the creek and. Naturally, we don't want our sanitary sewers on the surface of the. On the on the surface and so we are working with the. County to get those buried and. So we're in the design phase this year and we would like to have the improvements constructed next year again. This is that is a project of some urgency. The remote site septage receiving station. I'm sorry, don't have any pictures, but. But this is where all our haulers come to bring in outside waste, whether it's Port of John or trailer park or. Other ways that are brought in. It's a revenue generator for the wastewater plant, but it's a bit outdated in that much of it is pretty much on the honor system out there. And so this board has already improved the approve the. Design of modifications to the plan to essentially. Modernize it, make it more secure and make it. Unreliant on the honor system and includes a sampling sampling system. So we know the strength of the waste and monitors the amount of waste that they're. Putting into the receiving station. This $1.2 million. Dan assures me that this is. That's just a placeholder seat. I think you're going to anticipate that number coming down quite a bit. Moving forward. We're maintaining the equipment in our lift stations and so Dan has that spread out over the next three years. Waste water treatment plan. Is. The the EFS so that's the EFS that's the coating is kind of like a stucco that's on the on the building. I think is on the it's adhered to the original brick. So that's failing in a number of areas and in the paint. See if I. It's not looking super sharp over there and so we are looking to. Prove the appearance of the plant and improve security down there. And so Dan has a placeholder for. For that work. The gravity belt thickeners need to be rebuilt. And if you're wondering what a gravity belt thickener looks like, there it is. And so this we have to do these thickeners that again. We need that redundancy and we need them need them to be. Operational and so we have money budgeted over the next two years to rebuild those. Some other items maintaining the equipment of the wastewater treatment plant. And then the future replacement of our emergent. Our mobile emergency generator and our mobile emergency trash pump. So if we have a failed sewer, we need to make sure that we can bypass pump quickly. Utility truck and crane, which will assist us in. Maintaining our pumps, which we're currently not. Are not being maintained to the. To the extent that we. Yeah, it's what. No, but they're not. They still are they pulling them every month. Yeah, so it's currently being contracted. But again, we would elevate the level of service that they would get if we would have the equipment that could assist us in that work. Marina projects, North building renovation. This is this is a project that was originally. Included in this year's budget for design of improvements to enclose the breeze way. It sent separates the bathrooms from the lounge area and kind of the picnic area and would. Cover the picnic area with something a little more permanent than a tent. And so that that is currently been moved to 2027 and 2028. The windows and doors need to be replaced at the Marina control building. So again, that does not come out of the general fund. That is all out of Marina reserves, which is fully paid for by the Marina tenants. I resurfaced seeing the parking lot. We have out to 2029, but that's something, you know, I was. Thinking about again, as Aaron was talking, Aaron. I was talking about earlier that ways that we can meet the Northeast TMDL and that's something that we did. That we'll be strongly looking at to see what effect that could have on meeting those. Stormwater quality goals by perhaps. Instituting some green or including some green infrastructure under the Marina parking lot. So that's something again, we have concept plan or schematic engineering. There's command occurs that are we at 60% sorry to put you on the spot. Yeah, it is schematic. So that's 30% design of parking lot improvements that was funded by through a grant. And that work was done by Edgewater, but we have yet to implement that. So we have that we have that kicked out a little bit. Ultimately, the Marina would like to replace their fixed peers and the West. I'm sorry, the North slip with floating docks, but that does have an effect on their. The amount of docs that are available. And so that's something that is. Currently being scheduled for 2030. And dredging is out, I think about 10 years. And then the Marina parking lot lights as we're going through our. That street light project are consultant noted that. That they are. In rough shape down there, and so that may be something we need to address as early as 2029. Water main project. So we have Holden Street and Washington Street that we talked about future water main projects associated with all those other street improvements. Same thing for Grand Grand Avenue. That's programmed out for 2034. In 2026, we'd like to. Implement SCADA and electrical improvements to our Thomas tower so that we have better control from the plant. Of what's going on at the tower so that they essentially communicate better. We also want to install a mixer in the Thomas tower because we have problems with icing and water quality that we'd like that. We feel could be improved by that. And then doing the same thing at the West tower and mineral Springs tower in the future. A PRV is a pressure reducing valve that needs to be replaced on hails trails. So we have that schedule for this year. Yeah, done. I thought it was done. All right. And Woodland Avenue scheduled for next year. Let lateral replacement again. That is something we have a 13 year window to complete. And so we have. This we have that essentially budgeted. Through the next 10 years to replace lead laterals and to special assess. Properties, but that will be going to GGF at the July 7th meeting. I do believe. Water plant roof replacement that was when that was installed about. 15 years ago at a 20 year life and so right at around year 20 is where we have it. Budgeted for replacement. We've talked at this board before about a service driveway to the generator which we may recall we installed the generator on the north side of the. Water treatment plant rather than putting it on. Then adding what amounted to was a portion of a second story to the. To the where we have the nuclear well building. We felt this was kind of a win win. The neighbors across the street were happy that the building had a lower profile and. And it also opened up more room for us in the new. In the new building so. East path restoration so I have an image of that as well I can share so. Dan has some ideas to improve that the. Appearance and functionality of this important piece of our lakefront walkway. So I have some money budgeted. For that. Replacement of the water utility. The water utility wants to replace its 2002 back loader backhoe. And purchase an aerial lift. Truck and equipment and a floor scrubber for the new building. So these are other pending items that these are essentially. Various projects I guess. And so I've included in here I guess I want to highlight. Cellular tower construction so we are considering taking our antennas off of the. Water towers we only have well we have none the north tower in the west tower. And putting them on stand alone poles because. Of us to eliminate security concerns and also. You know these these antennas can damage the. Water tower and. They create a problem for maintenance of the tower and so. So if we take. Antennas off of the. Water towers we are. Looking at the possibility of constructing a pole onto which those could be. Adhered and then the revenue would. Would come to the city rather than the water utility. But that is that's that project has not been. Brought to. Any committee so far so but that is something where. Anticipating to happen soon because we do need to paint the. Thomas tower was actually originally scheduled for this year and it was put off. Because of concerns with the antennas that are on it. This has been on for a while the county trunk L. Sidewalk. Sunset bike trail so that. That is the section of. Bike trail that's I would say missing between sunset. And. The inner urban trail on the west side of L L. Sorry I don't have a picture but if you can picture clean test. Running alongside L on again on the west side of L L between. Sunset in the inner urban trail I think that's been a segment that's been missing for. Quite some time with. Our development in a west of L. L. so that. Ultimately they can. Go southbound on the trail without having to travel. East down to the bike trail on sunset and then. Backtracking and then having to cross L. L. twice. Wouldn't that. Wouldn't that make sense to include with. As part of the sunset and L. L. intersection. Save a separate project. I think so but. The county is. Just a way to say I want to make sure. Include it with which project. So just down to. Sunset and L. L. intersection. And you have the sunset. The bike trail the sunset. Sidewalk the year prior. And it almost seems like if the intersections going forward it would make sense to. Bump that back a year and include those together. Right so that I mean that's a project that. Really hasn't been talked about beyond traffic safety and so. So some of these are some of these are placeholders for. Projects that may happen but have not been yet approved. And that's part of that I guess that's. Part of the discussion I. That I value coming out of this so that these are some of the ideas that are being talked about and. In other committees like traffic safety and and whether or not this so this is something as we know there's. Well some people may not know. So the intersection in the city that has the most traffic accidents is L. L. and sunset and so. We've been looking at ways to improve that intersection over the years and I think we have improved that intersection over the years. But but accidents continue to happen. And traffic safety has talked about the possibility of constructing around about at that intersection. We have talked with. We've reached out to the DOT for a. His up grant. I weigh safety improvement program and. So far I haven't gotten any way but anywhere with it but have not given up on. I'm trying to get money to. To make some more significant improvements that intersection but. Honestly if you if you ask me the. The sidewalk on L. L. from sunset to the bike trail is long overdue. I would say but right right now we haven't scheduled out for twenty twenty. Eight and again that's something that could move in either direction. And really the same thing to could be said. From an L. L. on both sides of L. L. from Aster Street which is the woods at White Pine intersection down to where the sidewalk terminates the reason. That's the reason that hasn't been built well one is because it's only urbanized. To about halfway between. Grand Avenue and Aster Street but. It's a lot trickier is I'm sure you know Mike. To put sidewalk there because the side slopes of the highway are so so steep. There is adequate room. There's there's plenty of flat area between. Sunset and the bike trail to build that other section so it'd be a lot. And it's only one side of the street on that. Stretch so but these are two I think you know very these would be well appreciated by the people and. Greystone and then woods at White Pine and so it's again been an issue of money and just staff capacity to build these improvements. Robert oh yeah are you able to share this out with the board so we can. Deep deep dive a little bit more. Yeah I can let me clean it up and I'll get it back to. Yeah I can get out to everyone. I'll get it out to everyone well before the next meeting. You know the same thing goes for Spring Street and Garfield box culverts at one. So the Spring Street and Boxfield Garfield box culverts for those of you who have not been on the board for a while or for a long time. This is. Had been part of a recommendation when when Stantec did an evaluation of the watershed that essentially. Carries and what's really an unnamed Creek. I'll call it that we call it the spinnaker the spinnaker layer be Creek that comes through. Spinnaker West and flows along underneath Larry B Street for a portion and then behind the houses that are on the north side of Larry B Street. Underneath Spring Street through clean test and down through the street department garage and out to. And so when we've had and and so we made. Huge improvement to it by improving the stormwater ponds that are in spinnaker West and we did that with a grant from the National Fish and Wildlife Foundation. Just like we're doing with Valley Creek and so. That is something I have not given up on in terms of getting funded so. We're we're our focus right now is on Valley Creek because of course that has even more significant issues and is a little. It's it's a little less complicated than the I'll call the spinnaker layer be Creek because as Michael alluded to we own all the property. That that Creek is in. And so that's a little bit of a lighter lift even though it's a huge project. The Spring Street and Garfield project is a little bit more complicated but I've not given up on. A more holistic approach to that rather than just building large box culverts. That essentially serve will serve to. Reduce the threat of flooding to five or six homes that have exposed basements in that area. So something again that's going. I feel that working with stand tech we can probably. Have a legitimate opportunity to obtain some grant monies for things for green infrastructure for Creek stream day lighting. For. These regenerative stormwater conveyance systems. But we just haven't we haven't got to that point yet so I mean. So the city will have the choice to either you know move ahead and with. So the city will have the choice to do that. So we're installing the box culverts that will convey the water out of these. Out of that area. More quickly or. Take the time necessary in order to make it again part of a bigger project. So these are all things that are ongoing. We've down here beach revetment nourishment bluff stabilization currently that's. Sitting out at the year. Twenty thirty. Nine sorry twenty nine. So again is that something you know that's a big price tag is that something that. Of course it's we. We will know more when we complete our wastewater treatment plant. Facilities evaluation this by the end of this year. We will know more about what we need to stabilize in order to facilitate. Further expansion of the plan but that bluff stabilization would allow the city to. You know essentially create a greater connection between the park and the beach and. And greatly reduce you know the risk of blood slot. Bluff slides like we had earlier this year. And then I'm not going to go through this but these are all the downtown unless you want me to. All the downtown plan items are kind of hanging out in that. Right now again they're at like twenty twenty eight but none of these. Have been approved as standalone projects and then I have. We have not gone deeper on the. TIFF projects. But beyond what you saw tonight and what we had previously presented to the board kind of giving an outline of that. Of the more imminent projects that are included in the TIFF. And that is the 10 year capital plan as. As I said the rough the rough cut. So I'd be happy to take any questions or. Any comments about any of the projects in here again that. Excite you that you want to see. Celerated that you want to see slow walked. I'm just excited about that you presented it to us. So I want to thank you for that update during the CIP. I realize this may be boring to many but I believe this has been an excellent information to consider for this committee. And also for the community as a whole as to what we have down the pipeline what we're looking at why we're looking at it. And the steps that it takes to get us to where we want to be. Sometimes you know we sit back and we wonder what's going on and. At least now we know there is a plan. We know there's other things in the work. So I appreciate that. Thank you. I still like to see us get back to annual street projects because we're falling behind. Every year that we don't do annual street projects but I know budgetarily that's a challenge. I guess I would say yes and no the. The projects were the they are every other they're programmed every other year but they're they're essentially twice as big. So there's positives and negatives to that. So I mean obviously it takes takes longer. It is a larger scale of inconvenience I think but. But even at twice as big were we doing the mile and a half of road a year that we really need to keep up. It varies but it's. Off the top off the top my head I can't answer that question whether or not it's it's. What the mileage comes out for each but it does vary. It's getting the yeah it's it is close. I mean this if we the plan that we have presented will. Accomplish the mission of. Replacing all the lead lateral lines and take care of our. You know we have some areas where we. On. Mike in your district I think on. We had three or four water main breaks this year alone so. You know so I think there's some fatigue out there for water main breaks. And so again but it does accomplish it. It's just it's going to take 10 years and. All right any other question. I just reiterate what Mary Lou said thanks for presenting it. Obviously for me the first time seeing it so. Look forward to going into a little more detail. Just as an example of something that I've heard people talking about is you know on. In my word on port view. People kind of whipped down that street pretty fast. I see people go 30 or 40 miles an hour down there so. There's just one example so like we do something to try to slow traffic down a little bit I don't know if it would be like a four way stop but. I don't know if it would be like a four way stop. I don't know if it would be like a four way stop. Westport and port view. For speed bumps or something but. And I am excited about the grand dev round about wherever that's going to be. I will give one reframe though on the stop signs or that traffic engineer stable stop signs that is stop signs are not. The traffic is not as effective as you would hope the stick extra stop signs in. Yeah I guess I'll have said this before and I'll. Say it again. Whenever I'm the most. I think in my career as an engineer the most common complaint I get is. Traffic is going too fast on our street and we'd like you to do something about it. And so it's it's also it's. It's. Yeah it's frustrating because I want to do something about it but it's it's. We can't solve it with. Stop signs and speed bumps it. It's making the motorist feet. So it's making the motorist feel like the speedy is traveling is the appropriate speed for the way the road is constructed. So a super wide road makes a person feel. Super confident going super fast. You know compare that to like an alley right nobody's going 40 miles an hour down an alley. They sure shouldn't be right. But so you know there's something in between an alley in a freeway right so that's why. I've been persistent in. Every road construction project we do taking a very close look at. If the road is constructed appropriately in Portview when we did that when we reconstructed that we did what we put in all the. Bumpouts to at least reduce the crosswalk. The crosswalk length for school kids and there are some areas where you know we're trying to use traffic calming but. I'm glad you said that because. I think it's important to people and anything we can do to slow traffic down is a good. Good thing other than stop signs in every corner but. I get it. Yeah. I guess you mentioned doing more rows I know. I have also received the comment that people like us to get the alley were. So if that's something the board wants to sleep on also. All right any other questions or comments. All right then we'll move on to item 15 review staff monthly reports. All right. I have it here. I'll just bring it. Bring it up and I'll need to bring it a little bigger here. I'll just touch on a few. Just a few highlights again it's a long meeting but as I mentioned earlier. So yeah highway 33 is scheduled to start next week I tell you when this project first. Was initiated by the DOT I think it was. Four years ago I couldn't believe we were talking about resurfacing highway 33 because we just reconstructed it and 20 completed it in 2013 but the DOT has a more aggressive resurfacing program and they've had in the past. But excited for the improvement and it's it's here. It's a three month project and they have sent out flyers to neighboring residents. And if you've driven down Grand Avenue you've probably seen the big sign that says it's going to be under construction starting next Monday. And then just kind of is an informational thing I put in here that the marine sanctuary people are going to be back in in the city they were here last year doing their survey of people who visit and finding out who comes to Port Washington to visit the marine sanctuary and there's quite a few and that's good news for him and them and good news for the city too because it brings in tourism dollars and I think a certain energy to the city. And then if you've driven down Jackson Street they're well on their way to getting their mural completed and again that's just a great community involvement project. North Beach access has been open for a few weeks now. The seating and straw matting is down. And the beach is open for anyone who was ready to hit the beach supposed to be hot tomorrow. Crack filling is already underway. Our summer help is here I think in all our departments in fact we were told I think there's 79 seasonal employees hired for this summer. So great to have that help. We have a new employee. We lost the employee. We were sad to see Jesse leave us earlier this year but our summer, our summer employee has worked out really well and decided to make a career of it. And so we have hired Taylor Zivolowski. Thank you. Do you know Taylor? Okay. All right. And so we're excited to have, we're excited to have him with us. And so there's also other informative things on our sewer and water page too. So if there's any questions let me know. Just seeing your website about the Spring Street Interceptor. It didn't hit another retaining wall did it. Is that a holdover from a previous month? It seems like. Yes. There's a retaining wall attached to the wing wall. The way I read the abandonment documents thought it was gone but. Okay. Here's to be there and we missed it with our boring soul. We're looking at. At directional drilling and poke and holes on our alignment and then left and right and basically drilling all the way. Through non-set of vertical drilling the final limits. Vertical exploration missed the wall that. That the pipe directional drilling ran into. And so we are going to use other methods in order to. Make certain. At the next alignment is not going to hit another. Buried abutment or wall or. Yeah, it's also where we did the ground penetrating radar. So none of that. Picked it up. So how long is it delayed now. I had a bunch of emails on that today. From what I was tied up with some other stuff I haven't responded but. I think we know what we want to do. How we're going to do it. Now we got to coordinate with the railroad to see when they're available. Watch this work. The joy of union Pacific. All right. Any other comments or questions. No. All right. That then brings us to item 16 chairman's business. I have none. So item 17 members and liaisons business. Anybody have any business for the board? No. All right. That brings us to item 18 public comments and appearances. Do we have any public comments or appearances? Paul, you showed up late. You got anything? No. All right. That will bring us then to item 19. Our next meeting will be July 14th, 2026, which is the week preceding fish days. And including fish days, I guess. So hope to see you all then. And that'll bring us to adjournment. Do we have a motion to adjourn? Move to adjourn. We have a motion by older woman Miller. Is there a second? Second. We have a second and I missed two of us. Okay. Bye. Committee member, Paul. All those in favor say aye. Opposed? We are adjourned.