WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.040 Tuesday, May 19th, here at City Hall, 630. 00:04.040 --> 00:06.200 All council members are present. 00:06.200 --> 00:08.240 Please join with me for the Pledge of Allegiance. 00:11.520 --> 00:13.720 I pledge allegiance to the flag 00:13.720 --> 00:15.780 of the United States of America 00:15.780 --> 00:18.240 and to the Republic for which it stands, 00:18.240 --> 00:21.000 one nation under God, indivisible, 00:21.000 --> 00:23.000 with liberty and justice for all. 00:26.640 --> 00:27.540 Thank you, everyone. 00:27.540 --> 00:29.800 All right, so that brings us into the agenda this evening. 00:29.800 --> 00:32.120 The first agenda item is public comments and appearances. 00:32.120 --> 00:34.020 Please remember that if you have public comments 00:34.020 --> 00:37.040 or comments this evening, you have up to three minutes. 00:37.040 --> 00:40.120 And we maintain the right to close out public comments 00:40.120 --> 00:41.160 after 30 minutes. 00:41.160 --> 00:42.960 Is there anyone with public comments? 00:46.440 --> 00:49.360 Could you please sign that clipboard as well? 00:49.360 --> 00:50.200 Thank you. 00:52.640 --> 00:53.640 Name and address. 00:55.200 --> 00:56.280 My name is Dean Wiegert. 00:56.280 --> 01:01.360 I'm at 3708 East Northport Drive in the town of Port. 01:01.360 --> 01:04.200 I'm here because I would like to encourage all city residents 01:04.200 --> 01:09.520 to drive north on KW because LL is closed again to Lake Road. 01:09.520 --> 01:11.760 Take Lake Road while you still can, 01:11.760 --> 01:13.920 through the middle of the data center property, 01:13.920 --> 01:16.840 see the wondrous sites, see the amazing equipment, 01:16.840 --> 01:18.600 see the land transformed. 01:18.600 --> 01:22.120 Look to the north of Lake Road, just west of LL, 01:22.120 --> 01:25.240 see the rows of what look like barracks or house trailers. 01:25.240 --> 01:27.600 We were told there'd be no worker camps on the site, 01:27.600 --> 01:31.400 no living quarters, ask yourself what those trailers are. 01:31.400 --> 01:34.320 Take this drive on a hot day, maybe when it's 75 or 80, 01:34.320 --> 01:36.960 when there's been no rain for a while, 01:36.960 --> 01:40.080 when a good stiff 15 to 25 mile per hour wind 01:40.080 --> 01:42.000 is coming from the south or west. 01:42.000 --> 01:44.400 Don't open your car windows and maybe turn off 01:44.400 --> 01:46.280 the air conditioning and fan. 01:46.280 --> 01:48.560 The dust may not be good for your car. 01:48.560 --> 01:50.480 The dust isn't really good for anything. 01:50.480 --> 01:52.200 It must be okay though because I don't see 01:52.200 --> 01:53.560 the workers wearing respirators 01:53.600 --> 01:56.080 and I don't know why OSHA doesn't require that. 01:56.080 --> 01:57.480 The dust is pretty thick. 01:57.480 --> 01:59.440 From a mile away, it looks like fog. 01:59.440 --> 02:00.960 But it is coming from the data center, 02:00.960 --> 02:03.200 from all that open disturbed soil, 02:03.200 --> 02:05.960 causing air quality issues that are not being addressed. 02:05.960 --> 02:07.400 Timing is important. 02:07.400 --> 02:10.640 Had heading back home, you'll have to take KW again. 02:10.640 --> 02:12.440 Go about 430 or five. 02:12.440 --> 02:15.080 You'll get to experience an actual rush hour traffic jam 02:15.080 --> 02:18.600 right here on Country County Roads. 02:18.600 --> 02:20.640 First, you'll see the Hardworking Sheriff's Department 02:20.640 --> 02:22.920 Office are standing there directing traffic. 02:22.960 --> 02:24.840 As if the Sheriff's Department had nothing better 02:24.840 --> 02:27.880 to do than facilitate data center construction. 02:27.880 --> 02:29.600 You may even get to experience sitting 02:29.600 --> 02:32.040 in a three quarter mile line of cars and trucks, 02:32.040 --> 02:35.400 not moving, just sitting there waiting for traffic to move. 02:35.400 --> 02:38.200 Imagine living on that road, people do. 02:38.200 --> 02:40.520 And then when you finally get on to H to go back 02:40.520 --> 02:42.520 over the freeway, you'll probably get lucky again 02:42.520 --> 02:44.520 and the state patrol will stop you 02:44.520 --> 02:47.080 so that the long line of cars waiting at the southbound, 02:47.080 --> 02:49.360 43 exit can get off the ramp. 02:49.360 --> 02:50.440 Glance across the freeway, 02:50.440 --> 02:53.000 you'll see the long line of dump trucks, cement trucks, 02:53.000 --> 02:55.720 and other cars and trucks backed up all the way down 02:55.720 --> 02:57.880 the I-43 northbound exit ramp, 02:57.880 --> 03:00.080 trying to get back to the data center. 03:00.080 --> 03:02.040 Ask yourself how those state patrol officers 03:02.040 --> 03:03.680 could make better use of their time. 03:03.680 --> 03:06.440 What's not getting done because they're directing traffic? 03:06.440 --> 03:09.840 Ask yourself why Vantage wasn't required to have a plan 03:09.840 --> 03:12.920 for getting hundreds of trucks and thousands of workers 03:12.920 --> 03:14.720 in and out of the data center site 03:14.720 --> 03:17.040 without putting a strain on our County Roads, 03:17.040 --> 03:20.560 our County Sheriff's Officers, our state patrol. 03:20.560 --> 03:21.920 It's almost like no one thought 03:21.920 --> 03:23.640 about how much traffic there would be. 03:23.640 --> 03:26.200 Ask yourself why the city officials didn't think 03:26.200 --> 03:29.240 of demanding that Vantage have a plan. 03:29.240 --> 03:31.240 Since they took over Highland Road, 03:31.240 --> 03:34.440 why wasn't their first action to make a south entrance 03:34.440 --> 03:36.720 onto the site to facilitate that traffic 03:36.720 --> 03:39.120 without impacting all the rest of us? 03:39.120 --> 03:41.520 It's easy to say that they wanna be a trusted neighbor 03:41.520 --> 03:43.200 and partner, it's a little bit harder 03:43.200 --> 03:44.880 to actually demonstrate that. 03:44.880 --> 03:46.040 Thank you for your time. 03:48.040 --> 03:50.040 I just wanna make one clarifying point, 03:50.040 --> 03:51.120 sir, from your comments, 03:51.120 --> 03:54.080 is there is no housing on that site at all. 03:54.080 --> 03:56.680 We were out there yesterday and that is office space 03:56.680 --> 03:59.360 that was brought in to support the construction project. 03:59.360 --> 04:00.640 So thank you for bringing that to our attention. 04:00.640 --> 04:02.120 All of those trailers. 04:02.120 --> 04:03.560 Yes, sir, all of them. 04:03.560 --> 04:05.320 They're still coming. 04:05.320 --> 04:07.720 So any other public comments or appearances? 04:09.280 --> 04:11.520 Any other public comments or appearances? 04:11.520 --> 04:13.160 Okay, we're gonna move into the agenda. 04:13.160 --> 04:16.000 The next agenda item is the consent agenda. 04:16.080 --> 04:17.440 Is there anyone willing to make a motion 04:17.440 --> 04:18.360 on the consent agenda? 04:18.360 --> 04:19.200 So moved. 04:19.200 --> 04:20.040 Second. 04:20.040 --> 04:20.880 There's a motion and a second. 04:20.880 --> 04:22.800 Any questions or concerns on the motion? 04:23.760 --> 04:24.600 All right, seeing none, 04:24.600 --> 04:26.040 all in favor, signify by saying aye. 04:26.040 --> 04:26.880 Aye. 04:26.880 --> 04:27.800 Opposed? 04:27.800 --> 04:29.000 All right, motion carries. 04:29.000 --> 04:30.520 That brings us into Mayor's business. 04:30.520 --> 04:32.720 I've just got a couple of quick things here. 04:32.720 --> 04:36.600 First, Council, I had sent you over the weekend 04:36.600 --> 04:39.760 the Board's Commissions and Committee structure 04:39.760 --> 04:41.560 for my recommendations for this year 04:41.560 --> 04:42.880 and appointments for this year. 04:42.880 --> 04:45.840 Many people willing to continue to serve 04:45.840 --> 04:48.120 and many new people on the commissions. 04:48.120 --> 04:51.080 Again, working hard to have a nice diverse balance 04:51.080 --> 04:53.400 of both men and women and diversity 04:53.400 --> 04:55.320 on those boards and commissions. 04:55.320 --> 04:59.480 And I'm still holding open the one appointment 04:59.480 --> 05:01.280 which is the Police and Fire Commission 05:01.280 --> 05:04.480 until I have finished interviewing a couple of people. 05:04.480 --> 05:07.200 But otherwise, any other questions for me on that? 05:07.200 --> 05:09.960 Otherwise looking for your approval for those appointments. 05:09.960 --> 05:11.160 I'll move to approve. 05:11.160 --> 05:12.000 Second. 05:12.000 --> 05:13.240 There's a motion to approve in a second. 05:13.280 --> 05:16.040 Any questions or concerns on that motion? 05:16.040 --> 05:16.880 All right, seeing none. 05:16.880 --> 05:18.400 All in favor, signify by saying aye. 05:18.400 --> 05:19.240 Aye. 05:19.240 --> 05:20.160 Opposed? 05:20.160 --> 05:21.400 All right, the motion carries. 05:21.400 --> 05:23.080 Again, members of the community 05:23.080 --> 05:24.320 who serve on these boards, commissions, 05:24.320 --> 05:25.520 and committees will be contacted. 05:25.520 --> 05:27.720 We do a training, but we also wanna just thank them 05:27.720 --> 05:31.160 for their commitment to serving in Port Washington. 05:31.160 --> 05:32.880 All right, that brings me to my next agenda item 05:32.880 --> 05:35.720 which is an EMS Fire Week proclamation. 05:35.720 --> 05:38.640 You heard three minutes ago the ambulance 05:38.640 --> 05:40.840 and support vehicles take off. 05:40.840 --> 05:42.400 There was a car accident and they called me 05:42.400 --> 05:44.000 so they would not be here tonight. 05:44.000 --> 05:49.000 So this week is the fire and EMS week. 05:49.360 --> 05:51.040 I have a proclamation and what I'm gonna do 05:51.040 --> 05:53.720 is I'm gonna take it to the fire station myself 05:53.720 --> 05:54.560 and deliver it to them. 05:54.560 --> 05:57.400 But I would ask all community members to recognize 05:57.400 --> 06:00.120 that this week is EMS week in the city 06:00.120 --> 06:02.320 of Port Washington and across the country 06:02.320 --> 06:05.360 and that we now have a full-time fire service 06:05.360 --> 06:08.120 and EMS service thanks to the community passing 06:08.120 --> 06:10.920 the referendum and the vision of our current fire chief, 06:10.920 --> 06:13.240 Joe DeBore, and just if you have the opportunity 06:13.240 --> 06:14.920 to see the men, women, and people who serve 06:14.920 --> 06:17.880 and support our city to thank them for doing so. 06:17.880 --> 06:19.840 That then leaves me into the mayor updates, 06:19.840 --> 06:20.960 just a couple of quick things. 06:20.960 --> 06:23.920 One is I just wanted to extend a gratitude 06:23.920 --> 06:28.920 to Susan, Melissa, Dan also, and Mary Lou. 06:28.920 --> 06:31.120 Yesterday I had my mayors for the day. 06:31.120 --> 06:34.600 So we had six fourth graders who had a really, 06:34.600 --> 06:36.560 I think pretty cool day. 06:36.560 --> 06:38.320 They started out their morning here, 06:38.320 --> 06:40.040 they got sworn in by Susan 06:40.040 --> 06:43.120 and their parents and grandparents were here. 06:43.120 --> 06:45.480 Very interesting how it all comes full circle. 06:45.480 --> 06:47.720 Our former city administrator's granddaughter was here, 06:47.720 --> 06:49.200 so he got to experience coming in 06:49.200 --> 06:52.080 and seeing his granddaughter potentially having the authority 06:52.080 --> 06:54.320 over her grandpa, so that was pretty fun. 06:55.880 --> 06:58.040 And then we also had, for the first time ever, 06:58.040 --> 07:00.680 second family member who was a mayor for the day. 07:00.680 --> 07:03.160 So the three brothers in the family 07:03.160 --> 07:05.600 and the school voted the middle brother in. 07:05.600 --> 07:06.440 So we had a good day, 07:06.440 --> 07:09.000 went from here to the police fire safety center, 07:09.000 --> 07:12.480 where they got a tour of the new police and fire safety center. 07:12.480 --> 07:14.120 One of the things I think is most remarkable 07:14.120 --> 07:15.720 about young people, and I'm gonna invite them 07:15.720 --> 07:17.680 to come in July or August, 07:17.680 --> 07:21.240 is their questions are the exact same questions 07:21.240 --> 07:22.800 that you find anywhere else. 07:22.800 --> 07:23.640 So they wanted to know, 07:23.640 --> 07:24.840 like, why are we building a house 07:24.840 --> 07:26.320 for the fire chief in the back? 07:26.320 --> 07:28.080 And it's like, that's not a house 07:28.080 --> 07:30.960 for the fire chief, it's a burn center. 07:30.960 --> 07:32.000 You know, they asked a lot of questions 07:32.000 --> 07:35.280 of law enforcement and the fire chief as well. 07:35.280 --> 07:37.840 The fire chief and Lieutenant Kenoski 07:37.840 --> 07:40.360 did something pretty deep for the young. 07:40.360 --> 07:41.800 People who were with me yesterday, 07:41.800 --> 07:44.600 they were allowed, they signed the floor. 07:44.600 --> 07:48.760 So in what will be the training area in the community room, 07:48.760 --> 07:52.040 they took a Sharpie marker and they rode on there on this day, 07:52.040 --> 07:54.560 the mayors all signed the floor. 07:54.560 --> 07:55.400 So they all signed the floor, 07:55.400 --> 07:56.240 and that was pretty cool. 07:56.240 --> 07:57.200 They'll be carpeted over, 07:57.200 --> 07:59.960 but that carpet will be replaced in 30 years. 07:59.960 --> 08:01.320 Chris's replacement will be like, 08:01.320 --> 08:03.720 hey, we found a bunch of old mayor signatures on the floor, 08:03.720 --> 08:06.240 and they'll run a fun little story in the press for them. 08:06.240 --> 08:08.200 From there, it goes along with the beam up. 08:08.200 --> 08:09.520 It goes along with the beam, yeah. 08:09.520 --> 08:10.360 Which is really cool. 08:10.360 --> 08:12.480 Which they also signed, I found out. 08:12.480 --> 08:15.200 So then from there, we went up to the Vantage data center site 08:15.200 --> 08:18.440 and the Vantage team, the Michaels team and the Turner team, 08:18.440 --> 08:21.640 treated the kids to a really cool tour of the site. 08:21.640 --> 08:23.320 They had all their PPE gear on. 08:23.320 --> 08:25.600 I don't know why, but they also got sunglass safety gear. 08:25.600 --> 08:27.480 So they thought they all looked like a little bunch 08:27.480 --> 08:29.600 of superheroes in their safety gear. 08:29.600 --> 08:32.000 And again, asking amazing questions. 08:32.000 --> 08:34.800 So very proud of our school system in Port Washington. 08:34.800 --> 08:36.000 Had a nice, dignitary lunch. 08:36.000 --> 08:37.920 They got to meet their state representative, 08:37.920 --> 08:41.320 the sheriff and a candidate who's running for governor. 08:41.320 --> 08:42.280 Missy Hughes joined us, 08:42.280 --> 08:45.000 because she was at the tour for the site. 08:45.000 --> 08:46.680 And then they went and renamed the streets. 08:46.680 --> 08:47.880 So they unveiled the streets. 08:47.880 --> 08:50.800 Rob, please make sure to share our gratitude with JD. 08:50.800 --> 08:52.120 He did a really nice job. 08:52.120 --> 08:54.640 Lincoln Elementary brought out their entire student body. 08:54.640 --> 08:58.600 So the kids did a 3-2-1 and it was very, very cool piece. 08:58.600 --> 09:00.960 And then from there, we went and visited some local businesses 09:00.960 --> 09:02.280 to say thank you to them. 09:02.280 --> 09:05.200 And of course, ended our day with some ice cream, 09:05.200 --> 09:07.920 which two cans donated to the young kids. 09:07.920 --> 09:09.440 And then when they realized that it was free, 09:09.440 --> 09:10.520 they wanted more. 09:10.520 --> 09:14.280 So, but it was a very good day of learning. 09:14.280 --> 09:16.120 And I also just wanted to thank, again, 09:16.120 --> 09:17.920 we did the same thing on Friday for seniors. 09:17.920 --> 09:19.320 So it was a very cool opportunity for me 09:19.320 --> 09:22.520 to work with our seasoned citizens and our newest citizens. 09:22.520 --> 09:24.320 And they did the same tour as well. 09:24.320 --> 09:25.680 So very, very good day. 09:25.680 --> 09:27.320 So I just wanted to thank everybody for that, 09:27.320 --> 09:29.880 especially Joe and Kevin and Lieutenant Kenoski 09:29.880 --> 09:31.680 for the extra time they gave. 09:31.680 --> 09:33.560 That's all I have for mayors, updates. 09:33.560 --> 09:35.160 Any questions for me about anything? 09:36.200 --> 09:39.400 Deb, again, thank you for co-hosting with me on Friday 09:39.400 --> 09:40.520 with the seniors. 09:40.520 --> 09:42.120 It's a good day. 09:42.120 --> 09:43.960 It was certainly my pleasure. 09:43.960 --> 09:46.200 And I've said this to multiple people. 09:46.200 --> 09:48.760 When I graduated from high school, 09:48.760 --> 09:51.720 females were not allowed to do many things. 09:51.720 --> 09:55.640 I was blown away by the number of women 09:55.640 --> 09:59.240 operating huge equipment and dump trucks on that site. 09:59.240 --> 10:01.320 So very happy to see that. 10:01.320 --> 10:02.160 And thank you. 10:02.160 --> 10:03.000 Great opportunity. 10:03.000 --> 10:03.680 Yeah. 10:04.000 --> 10:06.040 And the lead of the project, Victoria, 10:06.040 --> 10:07.040 was on our tour with us. 10:07.040 --> 10:09.400 So it was a very cool day. 10:09.400 --> 10:13.280 OK, that brings us into officer and staff reports. 10:13.280 --> 10:15.880 I'll never miss an opportunity to share our department head 10:15.880 --> 10:18.240 updates that are on the administration page each month. 10:18.240 --> 10:20.400 They're usually 20 pages or more. 10:20.400 --> 10:23.040 So all the updates are there each month. 10:23.040 --> 10:25.320 I encourage you all to take a look at those. 10:25.320 --> 10:27.240 Two things for next meeting. 10:27.240 --> 10:30.200 I believe we have the bike plan coming to the next meeting. 10:30.200 --> 10:31.600 Is that right, Rob? 10:31.600 --> 10:32.880 And that should be exciting. 10:32.880 --> 10:35.320 And then we also have the audit next month, 10:35.320 --> 10:37.000 or the next meeting too, so those 10:37.000 --> 10:42.360 who will be exciting for the June second meeting. 10:42.360 --> 10:43.720 And then I just wanted to announce 10:43.720 --> 10:47.960 we are hiring over 80 people for summer health temporary. 10:47.960 --> 10:49.600 We get the summer kids in. 10:49.600 --> 10:51.880 They'll start mowing, and we'll get things going. 10:51.880 --> 10:53.880 You may see a little extra long grass right now, 10:53.880 --> 10:56.680 but we will get to it because we wait until summer when 10:56.680 --> 10:59.160 they're back from school that we can have them help the city out 10:59.160 --> 11:01.440 instead of having awful time employees. 11:01.440 --> 11:03.000 And we had two retirements. 11:03.000 --> 11:05.040 One will be June 15th. 11:05.040 --> 11:07.440 The chief of police is retiring. 11:07.440 --> 11:11.240 And July 3rd, our building inspector, 11:11.240 --> 11:13.680 is retiring after many years here. 11:13.680 --> 11:15.960 And then our receptionist out front here, 11:15.960 --> 11:19.760 she took a position in her career path. 11:19.760 --> 11:21.960 So we're very proud of her, too. 11:21.960 --> 11:23.120 She's looking at accounting. 11:23.120 --> 11:26.000 So we're sad to see her goal, but we 11:26.000 --> 11:28.320 are recruiting for that position in a few summer positions. 11:28.320 --> 11:30.600 So check those out online if you have any kids, 11:30.600 --> 11:33.840 or grandkids that are interested, Mattel? 11:33.840 --> 11:36.600 I just had one addition. 11:36.600 --> 11:39.160 Rob, and I know I'm not trying to throw you out here. 11:39.160 --> 11:41.280 But in the staffing report, it said 11:41.280 --> 11:43.320 that North Beach access, the street crews 11:43.320 --> 11:45.920 are scheduled to perform the Earthwork on May 22nd 11:45.920 --> 11:49.040 are still on schedule for that for Memorial Day weekend. 11:49.040 --> 11:51.160 They are going to be out there tomorrow, 11:51.160 --> 11:55.240 and we are committed to getting it open for Memorial Day weekend. 11:55.240 --> 11:56.080 Awesome. 11:56.080 --> 11:58.480 Greatly appreciate that. 11:58.480 --> 12:00.360 Any other questions or additions? 12:00.360 --> 12:01.920 This is where we're calling you out, Rob. 12:01.920 --> 12:04.480 Can we talk about Highway 33 resurfacing 12:04.480 --> 12:06.360 and the timeline for that? 12:06.360 --> 12:07.360 Yep, that is. 12:07.360 --> 12:09.000 So we haven't had a pre-con meeting. 12:09.000 --> 12:12.120 We do have the schedule from the contractor, however. 12:12.120 --> 12:17.360 And it'll be mobilizing in mid-June, so just a few weeks away. 12:17.360 --> 12:21.200 And they have it scheduled for completion in mid-September. 12:21.200 --> 12:24.600 So the road will be open at all times to through traffic, 12:24.600 --> 12:27.680 other than nighttime work for about five days 12:27.680 --> 12:30.480 when they paved the roundabout. 12:30.480 --> 12:33.920 And also, congratulations on your the Lighthouse Award. 12:33.920 --> 12:35.240 You went up to Sturgeon Bay for? 12:35.240 --> 12:36.720 Yes, it was fun. 12:36.720 --> 12:39.400 Did this end at, I mean, did you guys 12:39.400 --> 12:41.240 get some pancakes up there or something fun? 12:41.240 --> 12:44.280 I mean, did you go up to Al Johnson's? 12:44.280 --> 12:46.480 Didn't go to those in Sturgeon Bay, that's his debate. 12:46.480 --> 12:49.880 Wow, 25 minutes for the greatest pancakes in America. 12:49.880 --> 12:51.280 Well, that's true. 12:51.280 --> 12:52.400 Well, congratulations for that. 12:52.400 --> 12:53.920 I'd love to see that posted online, 12:53.920 --> 12:57.160 so people can see that because that was great work. 12:57.680 --> 13:01.640 OK, any other questions for most of our team? 13:01.640 --> 13:03.880 OK, then that takes us into our first agenda item 13:03.880 --> 13:05.680 for the evening, the council committees. 13:05.680 --> 13:07.440 Consideration and possible action 13:07.440 --> 13:10.280 on the approval of renewed alcohol licenses 13:10.280 --> 13:14.400 and annual cabaret licenses for 26-27 license year. 13:14.400 --> 13:17.000 The common council is being asked to review and approve 13:17.000 --> 13:20.960 the alcohol and annual cabaret licenses to include class A, 13:20.960 --> 13:23.560 beer, class A liquor, class B, beer, class B liquor, 13:23.560 --> 13:26.000 and class C wine, also being approved 13:26.000 --> 13:27.520 our annual cabaret licenses. 13:27.520 --> 13:29.960 The staff recommended is the full listing 13:29.960 --> 13:32.640 by license category of the establishments 13:32.640 --> 13:34.360 have been submitted and the city clerk has reviewed 13:34.360 --> 13:36.600 and approved the backgrounds and applications 13:36.600 --> 13:38.280 and all required fees have been paid 13:38.280 --> 13:40.240 and the background record checks completed 13:40.240 --> 13:42.520 and approved by the police chief. 13:42.520 --> 13:43.520 Susan. 13:45.480 --> 13:46.280 Thank you. 13:46.280 --> 13:49.280 And there are not many changes this year 13:49.280 --> 13:51.400 to the establishment licenses. 13:51.400 --> 13:55.640 They've all renewed and including the cabarets as well. 13:55.640 --> 13:59.160 All of their paperwork is in order, fees paid. 13:59.160 --> 14:03.640 There were no significant changes to alcohol agents. 14:03.640 --> 14:05.000 You've already approved some of those 14:05.000 --> 14:08.040 over the course of the last four or five months. 14:08.040 --> 14:11.440 The, as the mayor said, the police background checks 14:11.440 --> 14:13.160 have been completed. 14:13.160 --> 14:16.080 The only thing I would ask that if you choose to approve, 14:16.080 --> 14:19.600 it would be subject to any delinquent fees 14:19.600 --> 14:23.600 to the city be paid prior to me issuing their license. 14:23.600 --> 14:26.320 We just have a few that have outstanding, 14:26.320 --> 14:28.880 not greatly outstanding, but outstanding fees 14:28.880 --> 14:30.840 to the city that need to be taken care of. 14:30.840 --> 14:31.680 So. 14:33.360 --> 14:34.200 Thank you. 14:34.200 --> 14:35.840 Any questions or concerns for Susan? 14:35.840 --> 14:36.680 Mr. Benning? 14:36.680 --> 14:37.520 No. 14:38.680 --> 14:41.720 GGF reviewed this and recommends approval. 14:41.720 --> 14:45.000 So with that, I'll make the motion per what Susan stated 14:45.000 --> 14:47.640 that we approve it contingent on the payment 14:47.640 --> 14:50.160 of any outstanding fees. 14:50.160 --> 14:51.000 All right. 14:51.000 --> 14:52.080 So the motion is to approve a contingent 14:52.080 --> 14:53.120 upon outstanding fees. 14:53.120 --> 14:53.960 Is there a second? 14:53.960 --> 14:54.800 Second. 14:54.800 --> 14:55.640 There is a second. 14:55.640 --> 14:58.080 Any questions or concerns on the motion? 14:58.080 --> 14:58.920 All right. 14:58.920 --> 14:59.760 Seeing none. 14:59.760 --> 15:00.600 All in favor signify by saying aye. 15:00.600 --> 15:01.440 Aye. 15:01.440 --> 15:02.280 Opposed? 15:02.280 --> 15:03.640 Motion carries. 15:03.640 --> 15:06.240 I do get a nervous about what class C wine is, 15:06.240 --> 15:10.800 but you know, that's a dumb dad inside joke. 15:10.800 --> 15:13.600 I make every year and it falls flat every year. 15:13.600 --> 15:14.440 Okay. 15:14.440 --> 15:15.280 So public here. 15:15.280 --> 15:17.280 The next is a public hearing on proposed text 15:17.280 --> 15:20.960 to section 48 or 485-170 15:20.960 --> 15:22.840 of the city of Port Washington zoning code 15:22.840 --> 15:24.320 to allow indoor storage uses 15:24.320 --> 15:26.640 in existing industrial plan developments. 15:26.640 --> 15:28.520 I'm going to call that hearing to order. 15:28.520 --> 15:31.000 Notice this here by giving that this is a public hearing 15:31.000 --> 15:34.080 of the common council on Tuesday, May 19th at 630 here 15:34.080 --> 15:35.200 at City Hall. 15:35.200 --> 15:37.240 Notice is further given that the subject of the hearing 15:37.240 --> 15:41.680 is a proposed text amendment to section 485-170 15:41.680 --> 15:43.320 of the city of Port Washington zoning code 15:43.320 --> 15:45.720 to allow indoor storage uses in existing 15:45.720 --> 15:47.640 industrial plan developments. 15:47.640 --> 15:49.960 And at this time, is there anyone willing 15:50.000 --> 15:52.840 to speak in favor of this agenda 15:52.840 --> 15:55.200 or this proposed text amendment? 15:56.120 --> 15:58.080 Any speakers in favor? 15:58.080 --> 15:59.880 Any speakers against? 15:59.880 --> 16:02.040 Are there any speakers against? 16:02.040 --> 16:04.720 Okay, seeing none, I'm going to close this hearing 16:04.720 --> 16:06.480 and move us into the agenda item, 16:06.480 --> 16:08.800 which is consideration of possible action 16:08.800 --> 16:12.800 on ordinance 2026-02, amending the zoning ordinance 16:12.800 --> 16:15.560 relating to permitted uses by right in the one 16:15.560 --> 16:17.840 or the I-1 existing industrial 16:17.840 --> 16:21.280 and I-2 industrial park zone districts. 16:21.280 --> 16:22.760 City of Port Washington is the applicant. 16:22.760 --> 16:25.560 This is the second reading, meaning we can take action. 16:25.560 --> 16:30.560 The issue is should the council amend section 485-170 16:31.400 --> 16:33.320 of the city of Port Washington zoning code 16:33.320 --> 16:36.080 to add indoor storage to the list of permitted uses 16:36.080 --> 16:38.240 for existing industrial plan developments. 16:38.240 --> 16:39.080 Mr. Harris. 16:40.400 --> 16:42.520 Okay, so this ordinance change 16:42.520 --> 16:43.920 or this proposed ordinance change 16:43.920 --> 16:45.320 is pretty self-explanatory. 16:45.920 --> 16:49.880 What it would do is formally codify indoor storage 16:49.880 --> 16:54.880 as a permitted use in our industrial plan developments. 16:56.280 --> 16:59.400 Those are generally, those are all, in this case, 16:59.400 --> 17:01.840 kind of those business bar and formats 17:01.840 --> 17:06.840 and of various mixed uses of light industrial uses. 17:07.400 --> 17:10.680 And just as we've gotten to approved, 17:10.680 --> 17:14.880 once been approved for about seven years now, maybe six, 17:14.880 --> 17:16.680 one is under construction now. 17:16.680 --> 17:20.640 And just meeting with police and fire, 17:20.640 --> 17:22.720 discussing some of the issues they've gone 17:22.720 --> 17:24.000 on in their inspections. 17:25.040 --> 17:27.640 I think we just kind of made a determination 17:27.640 --> 17:30.320 and concurrence by the plan commission 17:30.320 --> 17:33.600 that indoor storage would be a passive use 17:33.600 --> 17:38.600 and kind of an acceptable use in terms of both the use 17:38.600 --> 17:42.400 and the layout of these types of plan developments. 17:42.400 --> 17:44.000 This went to plan commission. 17:44.000 --> 17:46.360 This was unanimously recommended 17:46.360 --> 17:47.840 for the council to approve. 17:49.080 --> 17:50.720 Yeah, and again, having chaired planning commission, 17:50.720 --> 17:52.120 we had had the discussion on this. 17:52.120 --> 17:54.280 And frankly, with our industrial park 17:54.280 --> 17:57.200 and the lack of any interest in bringing light 17:57.200 --> 17:59.240 or any other types of manufacturing, 17:59.240 --> 18:03.160 we believe this to be a good use of that property. 18:03.160 --> 18:07.280 So any other questions for Bob or concerns or comments? 18:09.120 --> 18:10.520 I'll move to approve. 18:10.520 --> 18:11.760 Mr. Bering, there's a motion to approve. 18:11.760 --> 18:12.600 Is there a second? 18:12.600 --> 18:13.440 I'll second. 18:13.440 --> 18:14.280 The motion is seconded. 18:14.280 --> 18:17.000 Any questions or concerns on the motion? 18:17.000 --> 18:19.280 Okay, seeing none, all in favor signify by saying aye. 18:19.280 --> 18:20.100 Aye. 18:20.100 --> 18:20.940 Opposed? 18:20.940 --> 18:21.780 All right, motion carries. 18:21.780 --> 18:23.680 That takes us to Board of Public Works. 18:23.680 --> 18:25.680 Consideration and possible action on a proposal 18:25.680 --> 18:28.240 to submit a grant application for the design 18:28.240 --> 18:30.240 and construction of a railroad underpass 18:30.240 --> 18:33.200 on the interurban trail located between Oakland Avenue 18:33.200 --> 18:34.320 and Park Street. 18:34.320 --> 18:35.960 The issue is should the city of Port Washington 18:35.960 --> 18:39.920 approve a proposal from TKDA to submit an application 18:39.920 --> 18:42.320 for a US Department of Transportation, 18:42.320 --> 18:43.720 Federal Railroad Administration, 18:43.720 --> 18:45.720 Railroad Crossing Elimination Grant. 18:47.880 --> 18:48.720 Seriously? 18:49.960 --> 18:52.200 For the purposes of taking the interurban trail 18:52.200 --> 18:53.760 off of Oakland Avenue and Park Street 18:53.760 --> 18:56.080 and constructing an off-street connection 18:56.080 --> 19:00.520 under the railroad tracks with the we energies right of way. 19:00.520 --> 19:02.800 Staff is recommending approving the proposal 19:02.800 --> 19:06.440 from TKDA to submit an application 19:06.440 --> 19:09.480 to the United States Department of Transportation, 19:09.480 --> 19:10.680 Federal Railroad Administration, 19:10.680 --> 19:13.040 Railroad Crossing Elimination Grant Program 19:13.040 --> 19:15.120 for the purposes of taking the interurban trail off 19:15.120 --> 19:16.640 of Oakland Avenue and Park Street 19:16.640 --> 19:18.880 and constructing an off-street connection 19:18.880 --> 19:22.400 under the railroad tracks with the we energies right away. 19:22.400 --> 19:24.280 Rob, I appreciate the creativity of this. 19:24.280 --> 19:25.120 You have the floor. 19:26.960 --> 19:27.720 Thank you very much. 19:27.720 --> 19:30.920 So this is listed under Board of Public Works. 19:30.920 --> 19:34.160 It's now been to Board of Public Works last week, 19:34.160 --> 19:35.800 which approved it unanimously 19:35.800 --> 19:40.800 and then went to GGF before this meeting, 19:41.240 --> 19:45.400 which did received a two to one vote against. 19:45.400 --> 19:49.400 So that's the background on the support 19:49.400 --> 19:51.600 or lack of support for it so far. 19:51.600 --> 19:54.800 But this project is something we've been working on 19:54.800 --> 19:56.720 and what came up in GGF. 19:56.720 --> 19:58.560 And I have to apologize for it. 19:58.560 --> 20:02.080 This project is new to some people on the council. 20:02.080 --> 20:04.680 I think the only person that hopefully it's familiar to 20:04.680 --> 20:09.000 is Alderman Neumeier because we applied for a grant 20:09.000 --> 20:11.280 in 2005, which we received, 20:11.280 --> 20:14.440 but ultimately transferred the funds 20:14.440 --> 20:16.400 to complete a section of the bike trail 20:16.400 --> 20:18.320 on the north side of the city 20:18.320 --> 20:21.660 where the bike trail used to spill out on LL. 20:21.660 --> 20:24.560 We use that money for the county to pave 20:24.560 --> 20:26.400 an off-street trail on the north end 20:26.400 --> 20:31.400 from the hotel on LL to the bike trail 20:31.800 --> 20:35.160 just north of the town hall. 20:35.160 --> 20:39.120 So that was done with the funding we received back again 20:39.120 --> 20:40.440 in 2005. 20:42.200 --> 20:45.760 Since then, the counties continued to work on 20:45.760 --> 20:49.120 making this dream a reality of taking this, 20:50.200 --> 20:53.240 this section of road section of path, 20:53.240 --> 20:57.480 which is the outside of downtown, 20:57.480 --> 21:01.320 the only on-street portion of the bike path 21:01.320 --> 21:03.680 and unfortunately, this portion is also 21:03.680 --> 21:04.920 without a sidewalk either. 21:04.920 --> 21:07.560 So pedestrians have to walk on the road 21:07.560 --> 21:08.720 for at least a portion of it. 21:08.720 --> 21:11.920 But in any case, it's something that we've always had 21:11.920 --> 21:12.920 in the back of our minds, 21:12.920 --> 21:14.800 but have not put in the 10-year plan 21:14.800 --> 21:17.720 because it does come with a large price tag 21:17.720 --> 21:19.760 anytime you work at the railroad 21:19.760 --> 21:23.840 that has a strong impact on the cost. 21:23.840 --> 21:27.880 And so it's something that, again, we've had in mind 21:27.960 --> 21:31.920 as we are currently putting in our sanitary sewer relay 21:31.920 --> 21:34.840 in that area, we have been kind of preparing the grade 21:34.840 --> 21:37.040 for a potential crossing at some point. 21:38.560 --> 21:42.760 And we had communicated the TKDA, 21:42.760 --> 21:47.760 our desire to put in a railroad crossing there someday 21:47.800 --> 21:51.360 and started having initial conversations with them. 21:51.360 --> 21:54.240 And during these conversations, 21:54.240 --> 21:57.040 they approached us with this grant opportunity, 21:57.040 --> 21:59.600 which is part of a five-year grant program. 21:59.600 --> 22:02.240 Unfortunately, this is the fifth year of the program. 22:02.240 --> 22:03.640 We were not aware of it. 22:04.800 --> 22:08.360 And so that's why we have a timeline 22:08.360 --> 22:11.880 that I know some of the members of GGF were uncomfortable 22:11.880 --> 22:15.400 with it, again, we only became aware of the grant 22:15.400 --> 22:17.920 at the end of April and it's due June 8th. 22:17.920 --> 22:21.680 So this is, the reason staff is recommending it 22:21.680 --> 22:24.760 and Board of Public Works is recommending it 22:24.760 --> 22:29.480 is because it takes a nearly half mile on-street portion 22:29.480 --> 22:34.480 of the trail which crosses railroad tracks at grade 22:34.480 --> 22:37.600 and puts it below grade, creating a safer crossing 22:37.600 --> 22:42.200 for bikes and pedestrians and also cuts that section 22:42.200 --> 22:44.600 of the trail almost in half. 22:44.600 --> 22:48.200 And so we feel that this is a good amenity. 22:49.160 --> 22:52.920 It comes with a 20% local share. 22:52.920 --> 22:56.920 Again, there was concern by GGF, 22:56.920 --> 23:01.920 regarding the commitment to that local share 23:02.480 --> 23:04.480 that could be anywhere we estimate 23:04.480 --> 23:09.480 between $260,000 and $400,000. 23:10.880 --> 23:12.960 The grant, I did get confirmation, 23:12.960 --> 23:15.960 the one-point, they're currently estimating it 23:15.960 --> 23:19.120 at $1.3 million without contingency. 23:19.120 --> 23:21.360 That's in 2020, $26. 23:21.360 --> 23:23.480 So when we would apply for the grant, 23:23.480 --> 23:26.280 we would apply for it for a dollar figure 23:26.280 --> 23:28.360 that fit what we would think would be 23:28.360 --> 23:31.080 the construction schedule, whether that's three years 23:31.080 --> 23:32.720 or four years or five years. 23:32.720 --> 23:35.280 We would tack that onto the contingency 23:35.280 --> 23:36.640 if we were to apply. 23:42.120 --> 23:44.920 I guess I've said a lot about it already now at two meetings, 23:44.920 --> 23:47.680 so I won't say much more, but if there's any questions, 23:47.680 --> 23:51.200 I can certainly do my best to answer them. 23:52.360 --> 23:56.560 Oh, okay, any questions for Rob or comments? 23:56.560 --> 23:57.480 Well, comments. 23:57.480 --> 23:58.320 Mr. Benning. 23:58.320 --> 23:59.960 We'll follow on what Rob talked about. 23:59.960 --> 24:05.040 And the discussion in GGF was because the short timeline 24:05.040 --> 24:09.880 that this came to us, we weren't sure where this fit 24:09.880 --> 24:13.880 with our 10-year plan and capital plan, 24:13.880 --> 24:17.240 what would have to give, what would have to move down 24:17.240 --> 24:20.160 in priority for this project to be funded. 24:21.880 --> 24:24.840 We talked a lot about getting funding 24:24.840 --> 24:29.240 through the county or donations or other things like that. 24:29.240 --> 24:34.240 We don't have those in hand, so we can't count on that one. 24:34.880 --> 24:38.320 But we're struggling with committing future councils 24:38.320 --> 24:43.200 to, I'll say 400, but if the inflated dollars 24:43.200 --> 24:46.720 are more than that, we're just uncomfortable 24:46.720 --> 24:48.680 committing that kind of money at this point 24:48.680 --> 24:49.840 on such short notice. 24:49.840 --> 24:53.360 So, conceptually, I think, and I'll let the others 24:53.360 --> 24:57.400 on GGF speak, but I think we like the idea of the project. 24:57.400 --> 25:00.920 We're just uncomfortable with how it's gonna be funded 25:01.880 --> 25:04.840 for our share of it, which, you know, 25:04.840 --> 25:07.800 we've talked 400,000, but it probably more than that 25:07.800 --> 25:13.040 at this point, so I'll let Deb or Jonathan 25:13.040 --> 25:14.880 cover other questions or concerns. 25:14.880 --> 25:18.760 Yeah, we talked also about shifting priorities. 25:18.760 --> 25:21.240 I'm sure Alderman Numier would not wanna give up 25:21.240 --> 25:25.800 fixing alleys to allow this to happen before. 25:27.080 --> 25:31.640 We have a list of priorities, so in order to evaluate 25:31.640 --> 25:34.200 this project from a financial perspective, 25:34.200 --> 25:37.560 we would need to find out where we would slot this in. 25:37.560 --> 25:40.560 So, we need a little bit more time and more information. 25:43.200 --> 25:45.960 Yeah, Mr. Player, I think all their men bending 25:45.960 --> 25:47.760 kind of said it pretty well that we have to remove 25:47.760 --> 25:49.160 some other things from the priority list. 25:49.160 --> 25:51.840 So, I think as soon as we know, Rob, 25:51.840 --> 25:53.680 when we're awarded the grant, 25:53.680 --> 25:54.880 when we wanna start the project, 25:54.880 --> 25:57.320 we'd have to push those things back or cancel them 25:57.320 --> 25:58.720 or move things down the priority list. 25:58.720 --> 26:01.840 So, I think, for me, having a proactive dialogue this fall 26:01.840 --> 26:03.360 when we do budget and capital planning 26:03.360 --> 26:04.880 for the next five years, 10 years, 26:04.880 --> 26:06.840 when we hone in on that plan, 26:06.840 --> 26:09.680 I wanna make sure that we sort of start to delineate 26:09.680 --> 26:10.720 what those priorities are, 26:10.720 --> 26:12.640 so we can potentially kick some of them down, 26:12.640 --> 26:14.560 because that's what this essentially means for us, 26:14.560 --> 26:17.600 is that we have to move $400,000 project 26:17.600 --> 26:18.880 to later in time. 26:18.880 --> 26:21.480 Well, I guess I would say not necessarily. 26:21.480 --> 26:22.320 Not necessarily. 26:22.320 --> 26:23.880 I mean, we would certainly work, 26:23.880 --> 26:26.800 we feel that we have commitment from the county 26:26.800 --> 26:30.360 that they would work with us to try and raise the local share. 26:32.120 --> 26:35.680 They have a proven success rate with getting grants. 26:35.680 --> 26:37.440 We would continue to pursue grants, 26:37.440 --> 26:40.760 we would continue to pursue donations, 26:42.160 --> 26:45.520 whether they're corporate donations or private donations. 26:45.520 --> 26:48.840 I know that the biking community has donated 26:48.840 --> 26:49.800 to other things in the past, 26:49.800 --> 26:51.440 so we wouldn't give up on that. 26:51.440 --> 26:54.920 And I certainly don't wanna be, 26:57.200 --> 27:00.080 say that $400,000 is a trivial amount. 27:00.080 --> 27:02.400 It doesn't buy as much as it used to buy, 27:02.400 --> 27:07.400 and so that can $400,000 could be the delta on a project, 27:09.040 --> 27:10.080 as I said downstairs. 27:10.080 --> 27:13.920 For instance, we're tracking to come in 27:14.920 --> 27:18.760 much more than $400,000 under on the police and fire building, 27:18.760 --> 27:20.960 other commitments that we have in the future, 27:20.960 --> 27:24.560 whether it's the bluff or the street department 27:24.560 --> 27:28.440 or a road construction project, 27:28.440 --> 27:32.000 those projects could come under it, they could come in over, 27:32.000 --> 27:35.080 but we could bring a grant for another project 27:35.080 --> 27:37.720 that we weren't expecting another grant opportunity 27:37.720 --> 27:39.440 where we have more funding. 27:39.440 --> 27:44.440 And so I guess I feel it's worth the risk 27:44.440 --> 27:49.440 to commit the local share towards getting the money, 27:49.760 --> 27:52.920 so that a future council has the opportunity 27:52.920 --> 27:55.280 to build this project. 27:55.280 --> 27:57.440 And again, I wish it was on the, 27:57.440 --> 27:59.280 it's in the bike and plan. 28:00.640 --> 28:02.600 This is all kind of happening at once. 28:02.600 --> 28:06.360 We certainly didn't anticipate that we would be dropped 28:06.360 --> 28:11.360 into the last year of a $1 billion funding cycle, 28:11.720 --> 28:14.600 but I guess that's where we are. 28:14.600 --> 28:16.320 And so we wanted to bring this grant opportunity 28:16.320 --> 28:20.160 to the council and see if there was interest in doing it. 28:22.360 --> 28:24.120 Other questions, Mr. Beasture? 28:24.120 --> 28:26.480 I just want to, not a question, but a comment. 28:26.480 --> 28:28.400 I just want to reiterate what I said in public works. 28:28.400 --> 28:30.280 This kind of spills out in my neighborhood, 28:30.280 --> 28:33.400 and since I moved here, I've felt like 28:33.400 --> 28:35.560 that's kind of an unsafe section of the bike trail 28:35.560 --> 28:38.280 for families in chain and acres. 28:38.280 --> 28:41.560 So, and having learned a couple of years ago 28:41.560 --> 28:43.760 that the inner urban train actually used to run 28:43.760 --> 28:45.040 under the other train there, 28:45.040 --> 28:46.480 it's, I think it's a cool project. 28:46.480 --> 28:50.160 So to me, there's no issue with pursuing a grant 28:50.160 --> 28:51.200 and seeing where it goes, 28:51.200 --> 28:53.480 and then answer the other questions later. 28:53.480 --> 28:55.520 So thank you for working on it. 28:57.520 --> 28:58.720 Ms. Miller? 28:58.720 --> 29:01.520 I agree with all their Beasture, excuse me. 29:02.840 --> 29:05.280 This is something that we talked about in Port Moves, 29:05.280 --> 29:07.160 and at our public works, 29:07.160 --> 29:11.280 and I think this is an excellent way to go about it. 29:12.680 --> 29:14.320 And we could be denied. 29:14.320 --> 29:18.480 So it could be, you know, nothing lost, but nothing gained. 29:18.480 --> 29:20.560 So, and also give you the experience 29:20.560 --> 29:22.840 when the next time it comes around to write a grant. 29:22.840 --> 29:26.920 So I think this is a worthwhile effort to proceed, 29:26.920 --> 29:30.360 and that's where I would like to see us go. 29:31.240 --> 29:32.080 Mr. Gasper? 29:32.920 --> 29:34.480 Yeah, I also think it's worthwhile 29:34.480 --> 29:35.840 going after this grant. 29:37.000 --> 29:39.320 This area of the city, because of railroad tracks, 29:39.320 --> 29:41.320 does not have good connectivity through, 29:41.320 --> 29:43.320 and this really offers a chance 29:43.320 --> 29:46.080 to connect neighborhoods back together. 29:47.120 --> 29:49.680 When you build, have this underpass, 29:49.680 --> 29:51.520 you know, you're not just connecting the bike trail 29:51.520 --> 29:53.920 through, you're likely also connecting, say, 29:53.920 --> 29:56.880 from the end of linking and Madison down through to, 29:56.880 --> 29:59.920 making those neighborhoods that much closer to everything 29:59.920 --> 30:03.480 without having to go over to Grand Avenue, 30:03.480 --> 30:05.640 which is a heavily trafficked street, 30:05.640 --> 30:07.720 or over to Oakland, which doesn't have sidewalk, 30:07.720 --> 30:10.960 and is an industrial area, and you have to dodge the semi-trucks. 30:13.040 --> 30:17.440 As far as the planning for it for the spending, 30:18.440 --> 30:21.160 this wouldn't be the first time we went after a grant 30:21.160 --> 30:24.000 without having a definitive funding source 30:24.000 --> 30:27.840 down in the future as to how we were gonna pay for something. 30:27.840 --> 30:30.520 The Valley Creek grants we got for it. 30:30.520 --> 30:33.240 There was some promise of federal funding 30:33.240 --> 30:34.840 that might come thereafter, 30:34.840 --> 30:37.360 but that was before we had any dream of a TIF-5 30:37.360 --> 30:38.760 that was gonna be able to come and pay 30:38.760 --> 30:40.520 for a huge portion of it. 30:40.520 --> 30:43.840 So we've done stuff like this before, 30:43.840 --> 30:46.480 and sometimes when the opportunity comes up, 30:46.480 --> 30:49.280 I think we're best off jumping at the opportunity 30:49.280 --> 30:50.920 and then figuring out, you know, 30:50.920 --> 30:53.840 what funds are we gonna shift around later? 30:53.840 --> 30:55.640 And, you know, saying that, 30:55.640 --> 30:57.200 it's not a foregone conclusion 30:57.200 --> 30:59.240 that we're gonna win the grant, 30:59.240 --> 31:00.920 and if we do win the grant, 31:00.920 --> 31:02.600 we still have to deal with Union Pacific, 31:02.600 --> 31:05.000 who's a good chance Union Pacific comes 31:05.000 --> 31:06.440 and just says absolutely not, 31:06.440 --> 31:08.440 because they're Union Pacific. 31:08.440 --> 31:12.400 So there's a lot of obstacles that have to be overcome 31:12.400 --> 31:16.160 before this actually would come to fruition. 31:16.160 --> 31:18.000 And I think on the off chance 31:18.000 --> 31:19.720 that we can bring it to fruition, 31:19.720 --> 31:22.000 I think it's worth going after the grant now. 31:22.960 --> 31:26.640 And, you know, I'm not convinced it'll actually happen, 31:26.640 --> 31:29.920 but, you know, if we don't try, 31:29.920 --> 31:32.040 it'll be, we won't make it happen. 31:32.040 --> 31:36.600 And, you know, we're likely to be back on this same path 31:36.600 --> 31:39.120 five, 10 years from now trying to achieve it again 31:39.120 --> 31:40.560 when the opportunity comes up, 31:40.560 --> 31:42.440 and it's gonna cost a lot more. 31:42.440 --> 31:45.320 So, I'm in favor of going forward with the grant 31:45.320 --> 31:46.160 at this time. 31:48.520 --> 31:50.360 Rob, I have a couple of questions, 31:50.360 --> 31:52.760 and Matt's kind of prepped for this as well, 31:52.760 --> 31:56.840 but did we look at the potential use of impact fees 31:56.840 --> 31:59.920 through park for this project 32:00.320 --> 32:03.240 and a potential of increasing those impact fees slightly 32:03.240 --> 32:05.960 to offset the costs because of the significant amount 32:05.960 --> 32:08.440 of impact of a certain project in Port Washington 32:08.440 --> 32:11.680 that would offset this by a couple of dollars? 32:11.680 --> 32:13.840 I have not had the opportunity to do that yet, 32:13.840 --> 32:16.280 but that is something that we've considered, 32:16.280 --> 32:19.720 and because this is a recreational amenity, 32:22.160 --> 32:23.480 I would leave this up to Matt 32:23.480 --> 32:26.040 and our people who write these plans, 32:26.040 --> 32:30.080 but it seems like because it is a recreational amenity 32:30.080 --> 32:31.880 that is something that could be eligible 32:31.880 --> 32:36.000 for a recreational impact fee. 32:36.000 --> 32:38.280 And again, I normally would not be a big proponent 32:38.280 --> 32:40.520 of increasing impact fees. 32:40.520 --> 32:44.080 However, because of one project that is maxing out 32:44.080 --> 32:46.440 on the impact fees, and it would not necessarily impact 32:46.440 --> 32:48.600 anyone else building a home or a property, 32:48.600 --> 32:49.640 it's just a wondering. 32:50.640 --> 32:54.080 Yeah, I think certainly, you know, 32:54.080 --> 32:57.320 I don't know about raising impact fees or anything like that, 32:57.320 --> 32:58.880 but certainly this would be a project 32:58.880 --> 33:02.000 that park impact fees would be something 33:02.000 --> 33:05.240 that we could contribute financially to this project. 33:06.560 --> 33:07.880 Melissa? 33:07.880 --> 33:10.680 Just to note, park impact fees are not charged 33:10.680 --> 33:14.120 on development that are not residential, 33:14.120 --> 33:16.360 so keep that in mind. 33:16.360 --> 33:18.520 I don't know if we'd change the ordinance. 33:19.640 --> 33:24.640 Okay, Mr. Neumayer? 33:25.360 --> 33:27.160 Then I have one more question. 33:27.160 --> 33:30.560 I fully support this, I understand the liability 33:30.560 --> 33:32.520 of having to come up with the funds later on, 33:32.520 --> 33:36.400 but when we bypassed this back when I first came on council, 33:36.400 --> 33:37.840 I was very disappointed in it 33:37.840 --> 33:40.800 that the area of the bike path is pathetic. 33:40.800 --> 33:43.680 I have friends that ride it and they bemoaned 33:43.680 --> 33:47.000 what port does, they claim our bike system, 33:47.000 --> 33:49.200 that area isn't very good and it isn't. 33:50.640 --> 33:52.840 But as Altriman Gaspard said, 33:52.840 --> 33:56.960 we've done this before where we've applied for a grant 33:56.960 --> 33:58.720 and looked how we could fund it, 33:58.720 --> 34:00.480 our portion of it later on. 34:00.480 --> 34:04.280 I would put a lot of faith in the county. 34:04.280 --> 34:07.080 They've been very good at writing grants, 34:07.080 --> 34:08.400 phenomenal as a matter of fact, 34:08.400 --> 34:10.640 so I think it would be a big improvement. 34:10.640 --> 34:12.680 I am a big advocate of fixing our alleys, 34:12.680 --> 34:15.360 so I'm stand corrected on that. 34:15.360 --> 34:19.240 So I would support this, so thank you. 34:20.400 --> 34:21.680 One other question I had, 34:21.680 --> 34:23.120 putting on my old hat here, 34:23.120 --> 34:25.760 is did we talk to the school district at all about this? 34:25.760 --> 34:28.000 What the impact is for them? 34:28.000 --> 34:29.640 Because in the state of Wisconsin, 34:29.640 --> 34:32.080 the way the statutes work is if there's a railroad crossing, 34:32.080 --> 34:35.960 it automatically pulls the lever back for busing. 34:37.040 --> 34:39.040 And then there are radiuses and ranges 34:39.040 --> 34:40.920 of which you can ask walkers 34:40.920 --> 34:44.040 if there's no safe way to cross a railroad track, 34:44.040 --> 34:46.040 that is a thing in the state of Wisconsin. 34:46.040 --> 34:48.640 This would then provide the safe passage 34:48.640 --> 34:49.880 underneath or past that. 34:49.880 --> 34:51.720 So I'm wondering if you wouldn't mind 34:51.720 --> 34:53.680 also checking with the district on that, 34:53.680 --> 34:56.400 because the young people who live in that area 34:56.400 --> 34:59.800 likely go to Dunwoody on the east side. 34:59.800 --> 35:02.120 And on the west side, if they go to the high school 35:02.120 --> 35:03.400 and they're under the age of 16, 35:03.400 --> 35:04.880 they qualify for busing as well 35:04.880 --> 35:07.000 because there's no safe way across the railroad track, 35:07.000 --> 35:08.280 and this would provide that safety. 35:08.280 --> 35:10.160 So there could be some efficiencies 35:10.160 --> 35:13.220 for our other taxing partners. 35:14.200 --> 35:15.040 That's all I had. 35:15.040 --> 35:16.040 So is there anyone, 35:16.040 --> 35:17.800 is there any other discussion on this? 35:17.840 --> 35:19.160 Can I just ask one? 35:19.160 --> 35:20.920 One anecdote following up on 35:20.920 --> 35:22.800 why you said having gone to Dunwoody 35:22.800 --> 35:25.080 and having friends who lived 35:25.080 --> 35:26.320 east of the railroad tracks 35:26.320 --> 35:28.160 and walked to Dunwoody every day, 35:28.160 --> 35:29.480 because at that time at least 35:29.480 --> 35:31.920 I don't think busing was offered for them. 35:31.920 --> 35:34.480 But they, I don't think any of them 35:34.480 --> 35:36.760 that I knew ever actually walked Grand Avenue, 35:36.760 --> 35:38.520 they always either did Oakland 35:38.520 --> 35:40.480 where there wasn't sidewalk 35:40.480 --> 35:43.240 or they just went and cut across the tracks 35:43.240 --> 35:45.240 where it was convenient anyway, 35:45.240 --> 35:46.640 which would be approximately 35:46.640 --> 35:48.680 where we want to put this overpassed in. 35:49.720 --> 35:50.840 Right, yeah. 35:50.840 --> 35:52.120 Can't help the route to school, 35:52.120 --> 35:54.000 you can only make a safe one. 35:54.000 --> 35:56.520 But I appreciate the creativity and the work on this 35:56.520 --> 35:59.160 and with discussion looking to come to a close, 35:59.160 --> 36:00.400 is there anyone willing to make a motion 36:00.400 --> 36:02.640 for the consideration action? 36:02.640 --> 36:04.160 There is a recommended motion 36:04.160 --> 36:06.560 to approve the TKDA proposal 36:06.560 --> 36:07.640 to submit an application 36:07.640 --> 36:09.760 to the US Department of Transportation, 36:09.760 --> 36:11.280 Federal Railroad Administration, 36:11.280 --> 36:13.120 Railroad Crossing Elimination Grant, 36:13.120 --> 36:15.040 that's 12 words in a title, 36:15.040 --> 36:17.600 program for the purposes of taking the Inner Urban Trail 36:17.600 --> 36:19.240 off of Oakland Avenue and Park Street, 36:19.240 --> 36:20.960 constructing an off-street connection 36:20.960 --> 36:22.400 under the railroad tracks 36:22.400 --> 36:24.160 with the Wii Energies right of way. 36:25.920 --> 36:28.480 I would move staff's recommendation for that project. 36:28.480 --> 36:29.320 There's a motion. 36:29.320 --> 36:30.160 Is there a second? 36:30.160 --> 36:31.000 Second. 36:31.000 --> 36:32.000 Is moved and seconded. 36:32.000 --> 36:33.920 Any questions or concerns on the motion? 36:34.960 --> 36:35.800 All right, seeing none, 36:35.800 --> 36:37.320 all in favor signify by saying aye. 36:37.320 --> 36:38.160 Aye. 36:38.160 --> 36:38.980 Opposed? 36:38.980 --> 36:39.820 No. 36:40.920 --> 36:42.360 Motion passes. 36:42.360 --> 36:43.280 Thank you. 36:43.280 --> 36:44.880 This brings us into our last areas 36:44.880 --> 36:46.520 of public comments and appearances 36:46.520 --> 36:48.760 for before we head into potential closed session. 36:48.760 --> 36:51.960 Is there anyone willing to make a public comment or appearance? 36:55.160 --> 36:57.120 Okay, seeing none. 36:57.120 --> 36:58.840 The next agenda item then is the convenient 36:58.840 --> 37:02.640 and closed session per Wisconsin State Statute 19.851E 37:02.640 --> 37:03.880 for the purpose of deliberating 37:03.880 --> 37:06.400 or negotiating the purchase of public properties, 37:06.400 --> 37:07.680 the investing of public funds 37:07.680 --> 37:09.720 or conducting other specified business, 37:09.720 --> 37:10.880 public business, 37:10.920 --> 37:12.800 whenever competitive or bargaining reasons 37:12.800 --> 37:14.280 require a closed session, 37:14.280 --> 37:16.920 to it to discuss and formulate negotiating strategies, 37:16.920 --> 37:18.840 including without limitation, 37:18.840 --> 37:21.160 the terms and conditions for an offer to purchase received 37:21.160 --> 37:24.560 by PFD Development from PFD Development LLC 37:24.560 --> 37:26.360 regarding the city owned property 37:26.360 --> 37:28.360 at 104 West Washington Street 37:28.360 --> 37:31.080 and 365 North Wisconsin Street 37:31.080 --> 37:32.360 in the city of Port Washington, 37:32.360 --> 37:37.360 Ozaki County, Wisconsin tax ID number 16-098-10-101-001. 37:41.040 --> 37:42.520 Is there anyone willing to make that motion? 37:42.520 --> 37:43.800 So moved. 37:43.800 --> 37:45.200 There's a motion and a second. 37:45.200 --> 37:47.240 Any questions or concerns on the motion? 37:49.040 --> 37:50.240 All right. 37:50.240 --> 37:51.160 This is a voice vote. 37:51.160 --> 37:52.520 Ward one, 37:52.520 --> 37:53.520 board two, 37:53.520 --> 37:54.720 board three, 37:54.720 --> 37:55.800 board four, 37:55.800 --> 37:56.880 board five, 37:56.880 --> 37:58.320 board six, 37:58.320 --> 37:59.680 board seven, 37:59.680 --> 38:00.960 board eight. 38:00.960 --> 38:02.360 That motion, 38:02.360 --> 38:03.200 I don't know, 38:03.200 --> 38:04.040 I said eight again. 38:04.040 --> 38:06.520 Mr. Benning, did you want a one eighth vote? 38:07.400 --> 38:08.960 Yeah, district eight. 38:08.960 --> 38:10.200 Convene into closed session 38:10.200 --> 38:14.040 is the next agenda item for Wisconsin State statute 19.851G 38:14.040 --> 38:16.080 for the purpose of conferring with legal counsel 38:16.080 --> 38:17.440 for the governmental body, 38:17.440 --> 38:20.360 who's rendering oral or written advice concerning strategy 38:20.360 --> 38:22.000 to be adopted by the body 38:22.000 --> 38:24.200 with respect to litigation in which it is 38:24.200 --> 38:26.840 or is likely to become involved. 38:26.840 --> 38:28.560 So anyone willing to make a motion to close 38:28.560 --> 38:30.720 for a closed session on agenda item two? 38:30.720 --> 38:31.560 So moved. 38:31.560 --> 38:32.400 Second. 38:32.400 --> 38:33.440 There's a motion and a second. 38:33.440 --> 38:36.240 Any questions or concerns on that motion? 38:36.240 --> 38:37.320 Seeing none, 38:37.320 --> 38:38.960 district one, 38:38.960 --> 38:40.200 district two, 38:40.200 --> 38:41.520 district three, 38:41.520 --> 38:42.840 district four, 38:42.840 --> 38:44.040 district five, 38:44.040 --> 38:45.360 district six, 38:45.360 --> 38:47.440 district seven. 38:47.440 --> 38:49.280 All right, we are now in closed session. 38:49.280 --> 38:50.240 Please chair the, 38:50.240 --> 38:52.040 please clear the chambers council 38:52.040 --> 38:54.740 that's made in two minutes inside chambers.