WEBVTT 00:00.000 --> 00:04.800 All right, it is six o'clock. 00:04.800 --> 00:09.160 We will call the meeting to order roll call. 00:09.160 --> 00:11.640 We have a list of who's here. 00:11.640 --> 00:13.680 We are missing two, I believe. 00:16.240 --> 00:18.300 No one here for public comment. 00:19.720 --> 00:21.560 No correspondence that I'm aware of. 00:23.120 --> 00:27.000 So we'll straight on to minutes from the February meeting. 00:27.000 --> 00:30.920 By the way, we skipped the March meeting because of weather. 00:33.000 --> 00:36.640 And I apologize for the sun coming out at five o'clock. 00:36.640 --> 00:37.640 The day. 00:40.360 --> 00:42.200 Move to approve the minutes. 00:42.200 --> 00:43.040 Okay. 00:43.040 --> 00:44.280 All those in favor? 00:44.280 --> 00:45.120 Aye. 00:46.640 --> 00:49.800 Invoices for February and March. 00:49.800 --> 00:54.800 So, as you can tell, they're much more detailed. 00:55.680 --> 00:58.560 So this is the new way you're going to see the invoices, 00:58.560 --> 01:04.880 which I actually really like too, because they're listed as well as from what accounts they're coming from. 01:07.040 --> 01:12.160 As you can tell, most of the money being spent is for library materials. 01:13.680 --> 01:14.960 Anyone have any questions? 01:21.600 --> 01:22.960 I'll move to approve the invoices. 01:23.960 --> 01:24.960 One second. 01:24.960 --> 01:25.960 Thank you. 01:25.960 --> 01:26.960 All those in favor? 01:26.960 --> 01:27.960 Aye. 01:30.960 --> 01:32.960 Revenue and expense report. 01:32.960 --> 01:36.960 So these are now being released quarterly. 01:37.960 --> 01:43.960 So this is for the first quarter, so the end of March 31st. 01:43.960 --> 01:47.960 We are right on schedule. 01:48.960 --> 01:53.960 I don't see any major issues. 01:57.960 --> 01:58.960 Move to approve. 02:02.960 --> 02:03.960 All second. 02:03.960 --> 02:04.960 Thank you. 02:04.960 --> 02:05.960 All those in favor? 02:05.960 --> 02:06.960 Aye. 02:06.960 --> 02:07.960 All right. 02:07.960 --> 02:09.960 Directors report. 02:09.960 --> 02:11.960 Library staff update. 02:11.960 --> 02:14.960 We're still fully staffed. 02:15.960 --> 02:18.960 So I just, we're really happy with that. 02:18.960 --> 02:21.960 And we have a great crew of people. 02:21.960 --> 02:28.960 And I want to wish them a Happy National Library workers' day, which is tomorrow. 02:28.960 --> 02:30.960 Is that right? 02:30.960 --> 02:31.960 Tomorrow? 02:31.960 --> 02:34.960 I'm just letting you know I'm buying them food. 02:34.960 --> 02:37.960 So everyone is happy when they get food. 02:37.960 --> 02:40.960 But they have been doing a terrific job. 02:40.960 --> 02:42.960 We've had a great year. 02:42.960 --> 02:46.960 And they have dealt with a lot with the remodeling. 02:46.960 --> 02:50.960 And so you should be very proud of the staff. 02:50.960 --> 02:58.960 They've worked really hard and they dedicated to providing service to our users. 02:58.960 --> 03:04.960 Next item is the library statistics. 03:04.960 --> 03:06.960 We have a huge jump in outreach. 03:06.960 --> 03:10.960 Oh, yeah. 03:11.960 --> 03:13.960 And adult programming attendance. 03:13.960 --> 03:18.960 What was the program that brought so many people in in March? 03:18.960 --> 03:20.960 42. 03:20.960 --> 03:32.960 And we have so many now. 03:32.960 --> 03:37.960 The family programs have been really phenomenal. 03:38.960 --> 03:42.960 We won the last one for. 03:42.960 --> 03:44.960 Yeah, spring craft. 03:44.960 --> 03:48.960 And then this week we have a whole range of programs all week for National Library Week. 03:48.960 --> 03:50.960 Our first one today. 03:50.960 --> 03:55.960 I didn't know how many people showed up, but it was a silent book club in the community room. 03:55.960 --> 03:58.960 And it's really kind of cool how let's just set it up. 03:58.960 --> 04:01.960 She brought in beanbags and blankets to people just chill. 04:01.960 --> 04:06.960 And I'm sorry, I can get back to you to the program. 04:06.960 --> 04:10.960 I actually think I just would be the ribbon cutting now that I'm thinking about it. 04:10.960 --> 04:13.960 It could be the ribbon cutting. 04:13.960 --> 04:17.960 But the family programs have all been well attended. 04:17.960 --> 04:24.960 And so that's one thing that I did talk to Kate when she started is like, let's really boost family programming. 04:24.960 --> 04:29.960 Because I think that would prove people coming in. 04:30.960 --> 04:37.960 And it is clear that families are looking for something to do on a Tuesday or Thursday night. 04:37.960 --> 04:39.960 And they've been very sick. 04:39.960 --> 04:45.960 A lot of it's art related and putting things together as a family. 04:45.960 --> 04:47.960 And it's worked out really well. 04:47.960 --> 04:54.960 And then, you know, we've had extra attendance too for the last month with the district wide art show. 04:55.960 --> 05:00.960 And there was incredibly talented kids in this community. 05:00.960 --> 05:05.960 I'm not surprised the talent that you see. 05:05.960 --> 05:07.960 It's pretty incredible. 05:07.960 --> 05:11.960 Next year, it will be in Stockville. 05:11.960 --> 05:13.960 And then we get it back in. 05:13.960 --> 05:14.960 It's every other year. 05:14.960 --> 05:18.960 But it's very impressive. 05:18.960 --> 05:22.960 There were some people that really liked the jewelry and they wanted to buy the jewelry. 05:22.960 --> 05:29.960 And I'm like, well, you can contact the student after the show is over. 05:29.960 --> 05:35.960 Something else I had to add to that, I just remembered our community room, of course, wasn't open during renovations. 05:35.960 --> 05:39.960 And now that it's open again, some of our programs that were on pause have resumed. 05:39.960 --> 05:42.960 So that would explain some of the increase as well. 05:42.960 --> 05:43.960 And you were correct. 05:43.960 --> 05:45.960 I think, yeah, the ribbon cutting was in March. 05:45.960 --> 05:49.960 So, yeah, that probably added quite a bit. 05:49.960 --> 05:51.960 Yeah, it was a great turnout. 05:52.960 --> 05:56.960 Okay, moving on to new business renovation update. 05:56.960 --> 05:59.960 So, we're almost done. 05:59.960 --> 06:04.960 There's a couple of things that still need to be complete. 06:04.960 --> 06:11.960 One is the installation of the outdoor book locker. 06:11.960 --> 06:15.960 That's hopefully will happen in the next couple of weeks. 06:15.960 --> 06:20.960 We got it gets a electrical outlet installed. 06:20.960 --> 06:24.960 We actually, it has been moved where it's going to be. 06:24.960 --> 06:26.960 It's going to be further east. 06:26.960 --> 06:31.960 So it won't cover the WJ unicorn sign. 06:31.960 --> 06:35.960 We'll go down a little further, but we'll have to get electric. 06:35.960 --> 06:41.960 And then we, and we still have money over from the grant to do that and then get a port. 06:41.960 --> 06:43.960 So an internet connection. 06:44.960 --> 06:53.960 And I'm waiting for a proposal from a graphic artist for a way finding in the library with, you know, with signage. 06:53.960 --> 07:02.960 It's all going to be a really well thought out plan to look, well, I'll be the same. 07:02.960 --> 07:06.960 We'll be adding a lot more signage than what's there. 07:06.960 --> 07:08.960 Of course, that's all based on cost. 07:09.960 --> 07:12.960 They're the same group who did the van. 07:12.960 --> 07:14.960 And they're very excited. 07:14.960 --> 07:16.960 They're library users. 07:16.960 --> 07:20.960 And they have a really good eye. 07:20.960 --> 07:25.960 So hopefully we'll get something this week with the plan. 07:25.960 --> 07:30.960 And we still have to get the smart board. 07:30.960 --> 07:38.960 But the majority, there's a little bit, a few things that needed to be done with HVAC, HVAC system. 07:38.960 --> 07:43.960 One issue was even before the renovation started. 07:43.960 --> 07:45.960 And that needs to get fixed. 07:45.960 --> 07:47.960 It makes the community room too hot. 07:47.960 --> 07:49.960 They have to replace the valve. 07:49.960 --> 07:53.960 And it has been ordered. 07:53.960 --> 07:56.960 They're just waiting for it to come in. 07:56.960 --> 08:00.960 But nothing but positives about the renovation. 08:00.960 --> 08:03.960 Study rooms are being used. 08:03.960 --> 08:10.960 We have to work on clarifying some of our procedures with the study rooms. 08:10.960 --> 08:16.960 Like I expected, there are people that type to take advantage of using them. 08:16.960 --> 08:24.960 And so we're probably going to have to crack down a little bit. 08:24.960 --> 08:33.960 So, for example, we had an issue which led to a bad interaction with staff. 08:33.960 --> 08:37.960 A lady left the study room. 08:37.960 --> 08:41.960 She didn't tell anyone. 08:41.960 --> 08:44.960 And then her husband was using it. 08:44.960 --> 08:46.960 But the room wasn't signed up under him. 08:46.960 --> 08:49.960 It was signed up under her. 08:49.960 --> 08:51.960 And you may say, oh, what's the big deal? 08:51.960 --> 09:00.960 It's very important that the person who signs up to use the room checks out of the room 09:00.960 --> 09:04.960 and use the right ID because her husband didn't have a library card. 09:04.960 --> 09:10.960 Because we will expect some type of vandalism, that type of stuff. 09:10.960 --> 09:15.960 And that's the only way we can really kind of track who was using it. 09:15.960 --> 09:25.960 The staff do not have time to go around all the time and checking to make sure everything's okay. 09:25.960 --> 09:29.960 So we do put a lot of responsibility on the user. 09:29.960 --> 09:41.960 And so we have a staff meeting on Wednesday and we're just going to talk about some of the issues that have come up so far. 09:41.960 --> 09:47.960 But it's a good time for us to kind of like readjust. 09:47.960 --> 09:49.960 And it will never be perfect. 09:49.960 --> 09:52.960 There always will be some things that will come up. 09:52.960 --> 10:03.960 But the staff have been doing a great job dealing with all the change. 10:03.960 --> 10:05.960 Team Cafe. 10:05.960 --> 10:16.960 So included in your packet is this was written by Alyssa, who's coordinating the team cafe. 10:16.960 --> 10:23.960 She is trying to get some teens to join a teen advisory board. 10:23.960 --> 10:30.960 It's been some of a struggle, but she's not given up. 10:31.960 --> 10:39.960 If we're still going to have some programming, but we would rather have a lot of the programming come out from the teens. 10:39.960 --> 10:44.960 So every community. 10:44.960 --> 10:51.960 They're all trying to do the same thing. We are reach out to teens and get them into the library. 10:52.960 --> 11:01.960 It's amazing how some communities can create a great program for teens, but others can't get any teens come in. 11:01.960 --> 11:10.960 So it's a struggle, but we do know as we give out free food, they will come. 11:10.960 --> 11:15.960 So we will continue to do that. 11:15.960 --> 11:20.960 How was this? I know I saw a signage around the library, but was it marketed in any other way? 11:20.960 --> 11:24.960 She contacted the schools. 11:24.960 --> 11:29.960 They have a, I always forget the librarians name. 11:29.960 --> 11:33.960 I think so. Yeah. 11:33.960 --> 11:39.960 So, yeah, it's, it's, you know, we can, it's tough. 11:39.960 --> 11:44.960 Kids are so, they have so much going on. 11:44.960 --> 11:51.960 So it's hard to, you know, find them, but. 11:51.960 --> 11:57.960 And when can they start signing up for next year's board, the 26, 27? 11:57.960 --> 12:05.960 That's a good question. I'll have to double check with Alyssa. I mean, if you know anyone who's interested, please have them contact Alyssa. 12:06.960 --> 12:11.960 Anytime of the year. And. 12:11.960 --> 12:18.960 Hopefully we can get some really good candidates. It'd be great. We get some of the 10th graders just because they. 12:18.960 --> 12:25.960 They could stay on for a couple of years or, you know. 12:25.960 --> 12:31.960 You know, we can try to get from sockville as well because that's part of the school district. 12:31.960 --> 12:40.960 But I know they're trying to do the same thing in sockville as well to get teens in. So we're not giving up. 12:40.960 --> 12:46.960 Time. I wonder if reaching out to the communication teachers, what we used to call English teachers. 12:46.960 --> 12:50.960 Would help as well. Sure. Maybe spread the word word in their classrooms. 12:50.960 --> 12:51.960 Yeah. 12:51.960 --> 12:57.960 We are going to be talking, sending them information regarding the summer reading program. 12:58.960 --> 13:03.960 Because there will be a teen component to it and. 13:03.960 --> 13:10.960 Children's staff already have a date at the schools to go and do their show. 13:10.960 --> 13:16.960 I'm not sure what they're doing this year because the theme is the dinosaurs. 13:16.960 --> 13:20.960 And so I'm sure they will come up with something creative. 13:21.960 --> 13:24.960 Anyone's interested in. 13:24.960 --> 13:29.960 Going as a dinosaur and I cost him, we can rent one for you. 13:29.960 --> 13:32.960 They're out there. 13:32.960 --> 13:35.960 I did check with getting. 13:35.960 --> 13:37.960 Like a 30 foot. 13:37.960 --> 13:39.960 Dinosaur. 13:39.960 --> 13:43.960 You can rent them and from California, but. 13:43.960 --> 13:46.960 It was like $1,000 a day. 13:47.960 --> 13:52.960 Well, there's that, but I did find out there's a guy in. 13:52.960 --> 13:55.960 St. Francis who has an animatronic. 13:55.960 --> 13:57.960 T Rex. 13:57.960 --> 13:59.960 It's like eight feet high. 13:59.960 --> 14:01.960 So. 14:01.960 --> 14:07.960 It's been hard to get ahold of him, but I'll still double check because maybe we'll get lucky. 14:07.960 --> 14:13.960 Any other questions regarding team programming. 14:14.960 --> 14:18.960 Okay. 14:18.960 --> 14:22.960 Also in your packet is the library's charter. 14:22.960 --> 14:26.960 This was something I read up for a city council. 14:26.960 --> 14:30.960 And I did present it at the last city council meeting. 14:30.960 --> 14:31.960 It's. 14:31.960 --> 14:34.960 It's just a rearrangement of. 14:34.960 --> 14:37.960 What's in the business plan? 14:37.960 --> 14:40.960 Nothing in there in here should be new at all. 14:41.960 --> 14:44.960 Is it something they want us to do. 14:44.960 --> 14:46.960 Every year. 14:46.960 --> 14:48.960 Okay, I've been on this board a long time. 14:48.960 --> 14:49.960 I was not aware. 14:49.960 --> 14:51.960 We had a treasure. 14:51.960 --> 14:59.960 What are your duties as. 14:59.960 --> 15:01.960 How. 15:01.960 --> 15:04.960 Up to date, I guess, does the member list have to be? 15:04.960 --> 15:07.960 I know Jane will be leaving us at, you know, in the next couple of months. 15:07.960 --> 15:11.960 And we do have one member who hasn't been in attendance in a while. 15:11.960 --> 15:15.960 I guess how important is the member list. 15:15.960 --> 15:18.960 I don't know. 15:18.960 --> 15:20.960 I was just told to put it in. 15:20.960 --> 15:21.960 So. 15:21.960 --> 15:27.960 I mean, we could, I can see where we could leave it out because it's already in other parts of the. 15:27.960 --> 15:31.960 It's on the council page or just how frequently does it need to be updated, I guess, was. 15:31.960 --> 15:32.960 Yeah. 15:32.960 --> 15:34.960 And this is the updated. 15:34.960 --> 15:36.960 I haven't heard back from the mayor. 15:37.960 --> 15:39.960 I contacted him. 15:39.960 --> 15:42.960 Regarding Kelly. 15:42.960 --> 15:45.960 And Jane and I haven't. 15:45.960 --> 15:50.960 There's no ways putting together recommendations for for applicants for board members. 15:50.960 --> 15:52.960 I haven't seen we haven't seen the list either. 15:52.960 --> 15:56.960 So hopefully he's updating it, you know, in terms of the like the ongoing successes and goals, 15:56.960 --> 16:02.960 other than the finance committee seeing it in the fall in terms of what happened this year and then what the goals are for next year. 16:02.960 --> 16:11.960 So I think the council doesn't really have a crowd visibility to individual departments goals metrics KPIs strategies other than this forum. 16:11.960 --> 16:15.960 So like it's something that we started, I don't know, last year, two years ago, Dan. 16:15.960 --> 16:17.960 To understand what. 16:17.960 --> 16:18.960 Yeah. 16:18.960 --> 16:19.960 Yeah. 16:19.960 --> 16:24.960 Just to have greater visibility to what the boards and and and staff are doing. 16:24.960 --> 16:29.960 And I mean, this is has all been included in our monthly reports. 16:30.960 --> 16:34.960 And we, we do have a strategic plan. 16:34.960 --> 16:40.960 And I'm hopefully in the next few months, I'll have an update because we basically have already we've done everything. 16:40.960 --> 16:47.960 I mean, really the main goal of of the plan was a new space. 16:47.960 --> 16:51.960 And it happened. So. 16:51.960 --> 16:53.960 I'll have a summary. 16:53.960 --> 16:54.960 Hopefully the next few months. 16:54.960 --> 17:02.960 Yeah, I think it just also creates some greater accountability on staff's part to just to kind of give me something to shoot for and something to measure against when we kind of wrap up for the year. 17:02.960 --> 17:03.960 Sure. 17:03.960 --> 17:08.960 It's good. 17:08.960 --> 17:13.960 Are there any questions? 17:13.960 --> 17:14.960 Good. 17:14.960 --> 17:19.960 So. 17:19.960 --> 17:22.960 Rules of conduct. 17:23.960 --> 17:30.960 So it's time to take a look at the rules of conduct. 17:30.960 --> 17:33.960 And we can. 17:33.960 --> 17:37.960 You can take a look at it and then talk about it at the next meeting. 17:37.960 --> 17:41.960 We haven't updated this till since 2016. 17:41.960 --> 17:46.960 We, we, we've had some behavior problems. 17:47.960 --> 17:54.960 Not a lot, but we, you know, we have some people who are struggling in life. 17:54.960 --> 17:58.960 And I've been coming to the library, which is great. 17:58.960 --> 18:00.960 We're a great place, but. 18:00.960 --> 18:03.960 Unfortunately, some of their personal behavior. 18:03.960 --> 18:05.960 Is. 18:05.960 --> 18:08.960 Something that doesn't follow our rules of conduct. 18:08.960 --> 18:13.960 And it's been hard for some of the staff because they're not used to it. 18:14.960 --> 18:17.960 For, I have a lot of experience. 18:17.960 --> 18:19.960 I'm dealing with. 18:19.960 --> 18:21.960 People that are. 18:21.960 --> 18:24.960 Have a difficulties in life. 18:24.960 --> 18:29.960 And so it's just good that we have all this. 18:29.960 --> 18:31.960 Up to date. 18:31.960 --> 18:35.960 We, we, we had a situation which. 18:36.960 --> 18:49.960 Someone from family promise, you know, left their card and wanted, you know, staff to call them as the person was acting up. 18:49.960 --> 18:51.960 We want to get out of that. 18:51.960 --> 18:55.960 That's not something we're not professionally trained to do. 18:55.960 --> 18:57.960 It hasn't happened again. 18:57.960 --> 19:01.960 I'm just letting you know, so you're aware. 19:02.960 --> 19:04.960 And so. 19:04.960 --> 19:07.960 You know, it has been a challenge to. 19:07.960 --> 19:09.960 Some stuff that. 19:09.960 --> 19:11.960 There's a. 19:11.960 --> 19:13.960 Align that. 19:13.960 --> 19:16.960 You know, we don't want to cross. 19:16.960 --> 19:20.960 And we really, we want. 19:20.960 --> 19:22.960 People that feel welcomed. 19:22.960 --> 19:24.960 In the library. 19:24.960 --> 19:27.960 Unfortunately, some of the behavior scares other. 19:28.960 --> 19:29.960 Users of the library. 19:29.960 --> 19:31.960 So there is a balance. 19:31.960 --> 19:35.960 I think we are very lucky that the police of. 19:35.960 --> 19:37.960 Are very responsive. 19:37.960 --> 19:40.960 And they have great training. 19:40.960 --> 19:42.960 And how to deescalate. 19:42.960 --> 19:46.960 They know where people can get help in the community. 19:46.960 --> 19:52.960 So it's just important that we keep this up to date in the board. 19:53.960 --> 19:57.960 It's made aware, you know, we're, we're not having problems. 19:57.960 --> 20:00.960 As other large urban libraries have. 20:00.960 --> 20:03.960 Mainly, it's the mentally. 20:03.960 --> 20:06.960 People with mental challenges and. 20:06.960 --> 20:10.960 But it does visit Port Washington. 20:10.960 --> 20:14.960 Ever so often and. 20:14.960 --> 20:17.960 We just want the staff to be. 20:17.960 --> 20:19.960 Protected. 20:19.960 --> 20:20.960 Tom. 20:21.960 --> 20:23.960 Is there a list of the community support. 20:23.960 --> 20:26.960 Resources in the library somewhere that. 20:26.960 --> 20:29.960 If perhaps there's a staff person there that's. 20:29.960 --> 20:34.960 That if you don't have to call the police, you could just hand them this sheet of paper and not. 20:34.960 --> 20:35.960 And just say. 20:35.960 --> 20:40.960 Well, there are handouts to local organizations, NAMI, et cetera. 20:40.960 --> 20:41.960 Right. 20:41.960 --> 20:44.960 But it's been my experience. 20:44.960 --> 20:48.960 That people really take offense. 20:49.960 --> 20:51.960 To you for us. 20:51.960 --> 20:53.960 A lay person giving them something. 20:53.960 --> 20:56.960 Whereas it's much easier if the. 20:56.960 --> 20:58.960 Police. 20:58.960 --> 21:01.960 Get involved. 21:01.960 --> 21:04.960 It's mainly. 21:04.960 --> 21:08.960 You know, when the people who are intoxicated, which we haven't. 21:08.960 --> 21:10.960 We haven't seen, but. 21:10.960 --> 21:12.960 But the mentally challenge. 21:12.960 --> 21:14.960 Yes, we know where to tell people to get. 21:15.960 --> 21:17.960 Resources or you know. 21:17.960 --> 21:19.960 I think staff. 21:19.960 --> 21:21.960 There are a couple of hand. 21:21.960 --> 21:24.960 Actually, there's a couple of book or. 21:24.960 --> 21:29.960 Some pamphlets pamphlets on the end of double tech to make sure there's still some there. 21:29.960 --> 21:31.960 But. 21:31.960 --> 21:34.960 I think it's really important that staff. 21:34.960 --> 21:37.960 We don't get to staff to involved. 21:37.960 --> 21:41.960 In the different situations. 21:42.960 --> 21:45.960 Because unfortunately, some of these things. 21:45.960 --> 21:49.960 Can explode like rather quickly. 21:49.960 --> 21:53.960 And so I'm much more comfortable just having the police. 21:53.960 --> 21:55.960 And those situation. 21:55.960 --> 21:58.960 So, for example, on Friday. 21:58.960 --> 22:02.960 Someone left their bag it their backpack and. 22:02.960 --> 22:05.960 An overnight bag in the library. 22:05.960 --> 22:08.960 And it was there for a couple hours. 22:08.960 --> 22:10.960 So I call the police. 22:10.960 --> 22:13.960 I probably let it go on too long. 22:13.960 --> 22:15.960 But you don't let. 22:15.960 --> 22:18.960 Banks just sit there. 22:18.960 --> 22:22.960 It's been ingrained in my head, just like in airports now. 22:22.960 --> 22:23.960 You don't leave it. 22:23.960 --> 22:25.960 And so I actually called the police. 22:25.960 --> 22:28.960 And before they got there, the person came. 22:28.960 --> 22:29.960 And got it. 22:29.960 --> 22:30.960 And I talked to her. 22:30.960 --> 22:31.960 I said, you know, you can't. 22:31.960 --> 22:32.960 She left the building. 22:32.960 --> 22:33.960 She left. 22:33.960 --> 22:37.960 I go, you can't leave this material here. 22:38.960 --> 22:39.960 And. 22:39.960 --> 22:41.960 The police didn't even talk to her. 22:41.960 --> 22:43.960 I talked to her beforehand. 22:43.960 --> 22:45.960 But the police said, tell me that. 22:45.960 --> 22:46.960 They were known. 22:46.960 --> 22:48.960 The person was known. 22:48.960 --> 22:49.960 So. 22:49.960 --> 22:53.960 It's really case by case basis. 22:53.960 --> 22:57.960 And how comfortable the staff is. 22:57.960 --> 23:01.960 I would think it would escalate more if the police are called. 23:01.960 --> 23:04.960 Sometimes then if you would just have a sheet available. 23:04.960 --> 23:06.960 And if you would just have a sheet. 23:06.960 --> 23:08.960 And if you would just have a sheet. 23:08.960 --> 23:11.960 With all the resources and the tone on it. 23:11.960 --> 23:14.960 That staff person could just hand to them. 23:14.960 --> 23:16.960 Or even have on one of those. 23:16.960 --> 23:18.960 Plastic colder things that they could just grab. 23:18.960 --> 23:19.960 Right. 23:19.960 --> 23:22.960 And that is very true to a certain extent. 23:22.960 --> 23:23.960 However. 23:23.960 --> 23:25.960 The police in this town. 23:25.960 --> 23:27.960 In port are very well trained. 23:27.960 --> 23:29.960 In dealing with the mentally ill. 23:29.960 --> 23:32.960 And that and other people who have challenges. 23:32.960 --> 23:35.960 And that's one of the things that we're very fortunate. 23:35.960 --> 23:37.960 Is that they've been trained. 23:37.960 --> 23:39.960 It's been for a long time. 23:39.960 --> 23:41.960 I mean, they're like one of the. 23:41.960 --> 23:42.960 First communities. 23:42.960 --> 23:46.960 That really have made an effort to get training. 23:46.960 --> 23:47.960 The escalate. 23:47.960 --> 23:48.960 They're very. 23:48.960 --> 23:50.960 I've watched it there. 23:50.960 --> 23:51.960 And. 23:51.960 --> 23:54.960 We just don't have the same training as. 23:54.960 --> 23:56.960 As they do. 23:56.960 --> 23:59.960 And I totally understand what you're saying. 24:00.960 --> 24:01.960 Can I cut in? 24:01.960 --> 24:05.960 We do actually have a link to a big list of community resources. 24:05.960 --> 24:08.960 Back when the city had a diversity and inclusion committee. 24:08.960 --> 24:11.960 I did serve on that committee and that was one of the projects we worked on. 24:11.960 --> 24:17.960 So it hasn't been updated in several years because that committee to my understanding was dissolved. 24:17.960 --> 24:21.960 But it's not something that we of course we could still update it ourselves too. 24:21.960 --> 24:23.960 But when it's a stagnant. 24:24.960 --> 24:25.960 Printed document. 24:25.960 --> 24:27.960 It is harder to keep those things updated too. 24:27.960 --> 24:30.960 So I think in general, you know, we will refer people when they ask. 24:30.960 --> 24:34.960 I'm looking for information on, you know, different baseball leagues. 24:34.960 --> 24:39.960 We'll refer them to the back department or, you know, we'll try and guide people to the right department. 24:39.960 --> 24:40.960 But there is a link on our website. 24:40.960 --> 24:43.960 So I could send that out to you if you'd like to take a look at it. 24:43.960 --> 24:45.960 And I'd be happy to help update that. 24:45.960 --> 24:50.960 I've got it for domestic violence organizations and I guess I'm thinking of. 24:51.960 --> 24:55.960 You know, when someone would come to the domestic violence agency. 24:55.960 --> 25:00.960 We knew they had domestic violence, but so many other issues along with that. 25:00.960 --> 25:03.960 And they didn't always want to tell us about it, but we would have a. 25:03.960 --> 25:05.960 A thick resource packet. 25:05.960 --> 25:09.960 Of available resources in wasa and we could just give that to them. 25:09.960 --> 25:11.960 It wasn't there wasn't any judgment. 25:11.960 --> 25:12.960 There was no escalation. 25:12.960 --> 25:13.960 It was just. 25:13.960 --> 25:14.960 Here you go. 25:14.960 --> 25:15.960 Choose what you want. 25:15.960 --> 25:17.960 You know, if you want it. 25:18.960 --> 25:20.960 I would think at a public library, that would be very helpful. 25:20.960 --> 25:22.960 That's probably where that link comes in, but. 25:22.960 --> 25:23.960 Right. 25:23.960 --> 25:27.960 I guess I'm I'm thinking of two different situations. 25:27.960 --> 25:31.960 I think of people that are already acting up in the library. 25:31.960 --> 25:36.960 And that I'm instead of people who come up and ask. 25:36.960 --> 25:39.960 We definitely can find information for them. 25:39.960 --> 25:41.960 And when people have. 25:41.960 --> 25:45.960 The staff usually will come get me as I'm there during the day. 25:45.960 --> 25:49.960 And, you know, I sit on the United Way board, so I know where all the. 25:49.960 --> 25:51.960 Different organizations are. 25:51.960 --> 25:56.960 But in terms of people that are really acting up. 25:56.960 --> 26:00.960 I'm still going to encourage the staff. 26:00.960 --> 26:05.960 To contact the authorities, because, you know, last week. 26:05.960 --> 26:09.960 You know, we have staff member who took a lot of abuse from a patron. 26:09.960 --> 26:11.960 And. 26:12.960 --> 26:15.960 A lot of times it's just easier to just. 26:15.960 --> 26:17.960 Quietly have the police come. 26:17.960 --> 26:19.960 And. 26:19.960 --> 26:21.960 Deal with the situation. 26:21.960 --> 26:22.960 You know, we're. 26:22.960 --> 26:24.960 And I wouldn't be surprised at this. 26:24.960 --> 26:27.960 You know, it ebbs and flows. 26:27.960 --> 26:30.960 And so. 26:30.960 --> 26:35.960 I'm confident we can rely in the local police department. 26:35.960 --> 26:37.960 They have been there. 26:38.960 --> 26:42.960 You know, I've had colleagues that have worked in really big. 26:42.960 --> 26:45.960 Urban library and the police never even calm. 26:45.960 --> 26:48.960 And so. 26:48.960 --> 26:50.960 We're very fortunate that. 26:50.960 --> 26:54.960 But I totally understand and will just double check our resources. 26:54.960 --> 26:57.960 List and. 26:57.960 --> 26:59.960 Yeah, it's two different situations. 26:59.960 --> 27:02.960 I'm just thinking of something that anybody could grab and. 27:02.960 --> 27:06.960 And find the resources that they would need. 27:06.960 --> 27:10.960 I'm wondering, is it a part of annual training for library staff? 27:10.960 --> 27:14.960 Any sort of obviously not to the level of calling police, but any sort of 27:14.960 --> 27:18.960 de-escalation strategies is that included from the library or the city in any way? 27:18.960 --> 27:23.960 Well, we may have an opportunity. 27:23.960 --> 27:25.960 For some of that training actually. 27:25.960 --> 27:30.960 The city's insurance company is putting on a special program just for libraries. 27:30.960 --> 27:34.960 Directors next week, I believe. 27:35.960 --> 27:40.960 And I will be attending that and I can ask because, you know, they want staff. 27:40.960 --> 27:48.960 To be able to deal with these situations because, you know, it is a liability and things happen. 27:48.960 --> 27:51.960 But I'll definitely take a look. 27:51.960 --> 27:56.960 Look at, I mean, I have personally been to some of the de-escalation training. 27:56.960 --> 28:01.960 And if you don't do it all the time, you kind of. 28:02.960 --> 28:05.960 Lose that skill, you know. 28:05.960 --> 28:09.960 But I want them to just. 28:09.960 --> 28:12.960 Feel comfortable seeking help to staff. 28:12.960 --> 28:13.960 Yeah, absolutely. 28:13.960 --> 28:17.960 And I, having been through some of those, that would absolutely be a part of the training, right? 28:17.960 --> 28:21.960 Is being able to identify when it is beyond your control, but certainly for our patrons, 28:21.960 --> 28:26.960 but also for the confidence of staff to your point to just have a couple of strategies in their back pocket. 28:26.960 --> 28:30.960 So if that's an option, I think that would be a really great opportunity. 28:31.960 --> 28:35.960 Wow, this needs going fast. 28:35.960 --> 28:38.960 So the last item. 28:38.960 --> 28:43.960 So is regarding the garden. 28:43.960 --> 28:47.960 That's west of the library. 28:47.960 --> 28:49.960 The parts are going to be. 28:49.960 --> 28:52.960 They're very busy. 28:52.960 --> 28:55.960 And they have not hired another garden person. 28:56.960 --> 29:00.960 So I would like the board to approve. 29:00.960 --> 29:01.960 Just me hiring. 29:01.960 --> 29:07.960 There's a person I know that can come in and clean up the garden and get it ready for. 29:07.960 --> 29:10.960 This is the second planning year. 29:10.960 --> 29:12.960 For this particular garden. 29:12.960 --> 29:17.960 So next year, it should even be better and shouldn't require as much help. 29:17.960 --> 29:22.960 We can we have donation money left over. 29:22.960 --> 29:26.960 So I'm just looking to spend less than a thousand dollars. 29:26.960 --> 29:30.960 For cleanup and then maybe occasionally have the person come in during the summer. 29:30.960 --> 29:34.960 And I know the parts will try to do the last year they did. 29:34.960 --> 29:36.960 They didn't help. 29:36.960 --> 29:41.960 And it was really hard to keep it maintained. 29:41.960 --> 29:45.960 So. 29:46.960 --> 29:49.960 The person specializes in these are native guard. 29:49.960 --> 29:53.960 It's all native plants and they specialize in that. 29:53.960 --> 29:56.960 So are there any questions? 29:56.960 --> 30:00.960 So not not to exceed a thousand dollars and then just for this year, Tom, or is any. 30:00.960 --> 30:03.960 Yeah, I'm hoping just for this year. 30:03.960 --> 30:04.960 I'm. 30:04.960 --> 30:09.960 We got to figure out a plan with with parks. 30:09.960 --> 30:12.960 It's been a challenge every year. 30:12.960 --> 30:16.960 And so I just I just want us to get a good start on the year. 30:16.960 --> 30:20.960 The growing season. 30:20.960 --> 30:23.960 I mean, we have plenty of rain. 30:23.960 --> 30:27.960 So I don't think we need any more of that for a while. 30:27.960 --> 30:32.960 But yeah. 30:32.960 --> 30:39.960 So would you like a motion to effect then not make a motion to approve not to exceed a thousand dollars. 30:40.960 --> 30:43.960 In twenty twenty six for garden assistance. 30:43.960 --> 30:47.960 All those in favor. 30:47.960 --> 30:50.960 Any opposed? 30:50.960 --> 30:52.960 All right. 30:52.960 --> 30:53.960 Motion carries. 30:53.960 --> 30:55.960 Great. Thank you. 30:55.960 --> 30:57.960 That's all I have. 30:57.960 --> 30:58.960 Okay. 30:58.960 --> 31:02.960 Somebody else have anything to bring up? 31:02.960 --> 31:06.960 Is there is there any updates on the lighting in the parking lot? 31:06.960 --> 31:08.960 Back parking lot? 31:08.960 --> 31:09.960 No. 31:09.960 --> 31:13.960 Will that be improved with the locker that going in there then or will that be lit? 31:13.960 --> 31:17.960 Yes, there is some lighting on it. 31:17.960 --> 31:23.960 That is the parking lot in the parking lot is public works. 31:23.960 --> 31:27.960 And they have looked at different scenarios. 31:27.960 --> 31:30.960 I will tell you it's. 31:30.960 --> 31:34.960 It's the people who live behind. 31:35.960 --> 31:38.960 The library. 31:38.960 --> 31:42.960 They don't want the light pollution. 31:42.960 --> 31:44.960 But. 31:44.960 --> 31:46.960 We have to we have to do something. 31:46.960 --> 31:52.960 It is really dark in the summer in the winter time. 31:52.960 --> 31:56.960 And with that pathway that I always call it the wall. 31:56.960 --> 32:01.960 Tell the kids go to the wall, you know, but that path between the wall and the parking lot. 32:01.960 --> 32:05.960 That's always just full of leaves, slippery leaves and then it's dark. 32:05.960 --> 32:08.960 I don't even like going there and then in the dark. 32:08.960 --> 32:10.960 That was supposed to be cleaned up by parks. 32:10.960 --> 32:13.960 No, I. 32:13.960 --> 32:15.960 They've been notified. 32:15.960 --> 32:17.960 Okay. 32:17.960 --> 32:20.960 I'm just wondering. 32:20.960 --> 32:23.960 I was just wondering if the lighting would improve with that locker coming. 32:23.960 --> 32:25.960 But maybe not that much. 32:25.960 --> 32:28.960 Probably not that much because it's going to be over the locker. 32:28.960 --> 32:29.960 Right. 32:30.960 --> 32:31.960 Yeah. 32:31.960 --> 32:33.960 So yeah, I mean, it's still issue. 32:33.960 --> 32:35.960 I mean, I can talk to Rob again. 32:35.960 --> 32:38.960 I mean, we have gotten quotes from. 32:38.960 --> 32:40.960 We energies. 32:40.960 --> 32:43.960 Because they can post. 32:43.960 --> 32:46.960 We energy owns the post. 32:46.960 --> 32:49.960 And we can put light on there. 32:49.960 --> 32:51.960 We have to pay a monthly. 32:51.960 --> 32:52.960 A monthly charge. 32:52.960 --> 32:54.960 I think it's like 20 to 30 dollars. 32:54.960 --> 32:57.960 But it would really spread over. 32:58.960 --> 33:00.960 Parking lot. 33:00.960 --> 33:02.960 I would prefer that. 33:02.960 --> 33:07.960 But I don't know if other members of the council will approve it. 33:07.960 --> 33:10.960 But. 33:10.960 --> 33:14.960 I have talked to the city make the insurance. 33:14.960 --> 33:16.960 And there's. 33:16.960 --> 33:18.960 There's really no. 33:18.960 --> 33:21.960 State law or. 33:22.960 --> 33:27.960 Code for parking lot lady. 33:27.960 --> 33:29.960 That I'm aware of. 33:29.960 --> 33:35.960 So, but I can I can check into it again. 33:35.960 --> 33:36.960 Okay. 33:36.960 --> 33:41.960 I can do that. 33:41.960 --> 33:45.960 Have anything else? 33:45.960 --> 33:46.960 Okay. 33:46.960 --> 33:50.960 I just need a motion to adjourn on motion. 33:50.960 --> 33:51.960 Thank you. 33:51.960 --> 33:52.960 All those in favor? 33:52.960 --> 33:53.960 Aye. 33:53.960 --> 33:54.960 I adjourned. 33:54.960 --> 33:55.960 Okay. 33:55.960 --> 33:56.960 Thanks everyone.