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All right, ready?

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I call to order the Tuesday, April 14th,

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2026 meeting of the City of Port Washington

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Board of Public Works.

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We have two members are away and excused,

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but we do have a quorum.

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So we will move on to item two,

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approve minutes of previous meeting.

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Does anybody have any questions or comments?

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Otherwise, I will entertain a motion to approve.

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Motion to approve.

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We have a motion to approve by Mr. Haley.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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And we have a second by Mr. Polly.

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Any questions on the motion?

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Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Motion carries.

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That brings us to item three, public comments

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and appearances.

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Do we have any public comments or appearances tonight?

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It does not look it.

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All right, we'll move on then to item four.

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Consideration and possible recommendation

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on the Port Moves Bicycle and Pedestrian Plan.

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Rob?

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Okay, yep, this is the first of four presentations tonight,

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but we have leading an office there at school

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from tool design who will come up to the microphone

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and make a presentation on the bicycle and ped plan

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that we've been working on, which is called Port Moves.

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This process started nearly two years ago.

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It's been extended out a bit longer than we wanted,

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but we're happy to finally be crossing the finish line.

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She'll go into the public outreach that occurred

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as part of developing this plan.

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And again, I think it's been much anticipated.

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We will take this plan tonight

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and bring it to the council meeting on May 5th

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for adoption.

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So if there are any questions that the board

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or any of the council members have

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from this presentation, if they could bring those,

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or if they could give those to me

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in the next two to three weeks

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prior to our May 5th presentation that you're appreciated.

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So other than that, Sarah's ready to go.

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I'm ready.

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Okay, well, good evening, everybody.

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As Rob said, my name is Sarah Schooley.

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I'm a principal planner at Tool Design.

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And Tool Design is a planning, engineering and design group

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that focuses specifically on active transportation,

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so walking, biking, and rolling.

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Exactly what this plan is about.

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We were fortunate enough to be hired

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by the city of Port Washington about two years ago

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to do their bicycle and pedestrian plan.

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So today I'm going to give a broad overview of the plan.

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And like Rob said, we would appreciate your comments

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and questions.

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And I also delivered some draft plans to Rob.

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So if you don't want to look on your screen

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and would rather actually look at paper,

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we have that available as well.

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So the presentation today is going to be very brief

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and pretty high level.

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So I'll go over the project purpose, vision and goals,

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public engagement, plan recommendations, next steps,

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and then the plan adoption as part of that next steps.

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But before I dig in, I want to talk about the plan purpose.

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So as we said, this is the bike and pedestrian plan.

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Port Washington is actually a relatively amazing place

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in many ways for people to walk and bike.

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You have a pretty small area.

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Destinations are within walking and biking distance.

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The city is nearly completely covered with sidewalks

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in the 90s for the percentile of coverage.

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You have the inner urban trail that goes through

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that forms a nice backbone of our bicycle network.

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So there's a lot of opportunity here.

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But even with that opportunity,

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there are a lot of people that either don't walk

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bike or roll or because they don't feel safe

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or comfortable or just feel that driving

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is the easier option.

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All of those concerns and experiences are completely valid,

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but as part of port moves, we're really looking

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for the projects, programs, and policies

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that can make it easier, safer, and more fun

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for people of all ages and abilities

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to walk, bike, and roll around port.

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But before you think this was a plan just devised

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by Rob, Roger, and me in our cubicles,

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I want you to realize that we did do quite a bit

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of community engagement as part of this plan.

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So this slide shows the variety of engagement that we did.

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We have a steering committee that we've met with regularly

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throughout the plan.

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We started the planning effort with some city staff interviews

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to talk with the police chief, Parks and Rec,

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and other and maintenance staff to figure out

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kind of what their concerns are about walking

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and biking and port.

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We hosted a group walk where we talked about infrastructure

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here in port and what might be done in the future.

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We did pop-up events, stakeholder focus group

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with the business district,

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and then also an online map and survey.

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The online map and survey and the pop-up events

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were where we received most of the comments.

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We talked to about 350 port Washington residents

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through those two options.

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So a really good swath of folks for this.

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So working with the existing conditions here in port,

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what we got from the community

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and also best practices from across the country,

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we created a vision for the plan that's up here on the slide.

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So the vision is that port Washington is a place

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where residents and visitors of all ages,

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abilities and backgrounds choose to walk, bike or roll

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because it is safe, comfortable,

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or safe, convenient, accessible and enjoyable.

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And so this is the vision statement

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that as we go through the plan,

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we try to tie back all of our recommendations

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in order to meet this vision.

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Dissecting the vision a little bit more,

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we created six goals.

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And while these goals are unique to port Washington,

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I also want to let you know that a lot of these goals

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are pretty typical of active transportation plans

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across the country.

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And really in the narrative for all these goals

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is where we tied it specifically to the port experience.

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So the goals are around safety, health and environment,

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network connectivity, mode shift, economic development,

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and equity and accessibility.

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All things that we know a better developed bike

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and pedestrian network can bring to a city.

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Once we had our vision and goals,

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we started putting together our recommendations.

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The first set of recommendations was around a network.

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And we have three networks in our recommendations.

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The first which is shown here to the left are the sidewalks.

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As I said before, port has a pretty solid network

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of sidewalks already happening.

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And so really where the red marks on this map are,

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are places where we're either filling in gaps

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or in many cases it's where sidewalks are only

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on one side of the street.

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And so in a lot of these situations,

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it's putting on the plan that we want to sidewalk

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eventually on the other side of the street,

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probably when redevelopment happens.

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The middle network there is the bicycle network.

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This is probably the most involved network

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and has many sorts of facilities on it.

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So it has bike lanes, it has multi-use trails,

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it has side paths, it has shared markings.

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There's a whole variety of bicycle facilities.

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And within the plan, port moves,

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there's a description of each facility type

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and why we chose that for the specific roadways.

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And so different facilities are selected

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based on the amount of vehicles that are on a road,

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the speed of vehicles, the width of the road,

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the current on or off street parking nearby.

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So there's a variety of factors that went

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into selecting the bicycle facility.

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And then the third network is the pedestrian improvement areas.

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And pedestrian improvement areas are quarter mile circles

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around what we would call pedestrian generators.

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And so these are places that bring a large amount

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of pedestrians to them for various reasons.

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So for port, that includes the schools,

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the library and parks are the main areas,

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just places that we would expect more people

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to be walking and biking.

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And what these pedestrian improvements areas are,

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FYI to staff that if projects happen around these areas,

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they should be bringing it up to another level

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for pedestrian connectivity and safety,

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knowing that hopefully more pedestrians

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will be in these spaces.

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Now using these three networks,

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we created the near term network.

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So in the plan, you'll see that we have timeframes

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for our networks to help kind of prioritize

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and help target the city team on what should come first.

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So here we have the near term network.

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So these are the projects we want to happen first.

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There are a variety of reasons for these.

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The main ones are that either A,

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they popped up a lot in community conversations.

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And so these are kind of high need,

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high interest projects.

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And then the other two are more around opportunity.

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So some of these projects are on roads

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that are already on the capital improvement plan

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that we know that these roads are going to be repaved,

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resurfaced or reconstructed in the near future.

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And so we want to take those opportunities

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to put in infrastructure while there's action happening

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on the street versus having to go back

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and do something later.

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The other reason why something might pop up on this network

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is that it's kind of low hanging fruit.

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So this would happen mostly with the bike boulevard system.

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And bike boulevards are a system of streets

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that we direct bicyclists and pedestrians to.

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And we use various traffic calming to kind of tell drivers

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that they should expect bicyclists.

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And then also just make it more comfortable

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for folks of all ages and abilities.

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This usually just consists of some signing

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and maybe some share of painting on the ground.

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So once again, a pretty low lift,

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which is why it's on that near term network.

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Along with the projects,

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we also have policy and program recommendations.

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These are actions and different kind of systemic things

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that the city could be doing in order to encourage

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bicycling and walking around the city more.

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With each of these policy and program recommendations,

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we do also identify partners.

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There's very little that the city can do without partners.

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And so we want to make sure that those partners

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are identified and involved as these policies

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and programs move forward.

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And as you can see,

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we also have these put into the three terms short,

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medium and long to help city staff

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and partners focus their energy.

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So that was a very high level overview of the plan.

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And I would encourage you to look into it more

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and definitely feel free to follow up with Rob,

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Roger or myself if you have any further questions.

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But the main next steps here of this plan is today,

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we're here at the Board of Public Works

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for you all to review

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and hopefully gain approval to move forward.

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We will be at the Common Council on May 5th.

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And then after that is really when the action starts,

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when implementation starts

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with those near term projects

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and those short term policy and program recommendations.

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So with that, I'd just like to thank the city

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for allowing us to work on this project.

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It truly has been a delight to work with these guys

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for the last couple of years

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and a really fun project,

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especially seeing the potential that's here in port.

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So I'm excited to see this stuff start to hit the ground.

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So with that, I will open it up to any questions.

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I'm ready.

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Okay.

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So among the groups that you speak with B3?

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With B3, yes.

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Is that the business?

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No.

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That is a local group that bikes.

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They're a bike group and they exercise

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and they run around town and...

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Rob, do you know if anybody?

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So on the first page of this, we have our steering committee.

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I don't know if anybody on that steering committee

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was Adam on that committee?

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I thought Adam would be in that group?

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I'd have to double.

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I guess now that the plan is coming out,

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I mean, I did post it on Facebook.

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I did get some response.

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I mean, I've talked to people who bike,

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I ride any bike.

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Some of the things I've seen in the plan,

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I didn't know this was even happening.

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Okay.

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And so, I mean, that's probably my bad.

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I wasn't paying attention.

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But I do think we should open it up for more comments

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because I do feel like while 350 people

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may sound like a lot,

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I don't think that is a lot for our community.

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And I really dislike the idea of any path

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being on Highway 32 or Highway 33.

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And many of our paths are like that here.

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So I don't think it's ready for prime time just yet.

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I know you put a lot of work in it.

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I'm not trying to dismiss that.

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But I do think we need more community input on this.

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And I think it would behoove us not to,

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I know you feel done

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and you've probably beaten this thing with it

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as long as you can.

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But I don't know if everyone's really done with it,

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including myself.

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Yeah, I think that's fair.

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And one thing to note about kind of our schedule on this

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is actually the plan has been pretty much in this forum

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for about the last nine to 10 months.

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So our engagement really happened over a year ago.

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So if you've been kind of looking for engagement opportunities

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for the last year, it hasn't really happened.

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I hear there's been other exciting stuff happening

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in Port Washington that's taken up much of the public attention.

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And so there hasn't, you're right,

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there hasn't been much engagement recently.

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One thing that we do have is you'll see on the inside

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of the board, actually we can get you a copy.

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We have our steering committee members.

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And so we try to get a wide variety of people

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that represent different interests

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and have different knowledge throughout the town,

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including the businesses, the school districts,

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a good variety of folks.

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And the plan has gone back out to them in this forum

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for comment.

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And so that's in their hands now.

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And Rob, I think you gave them a couple of weeks.

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So we would get comments from them

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before we went to council.

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Yeah, right.

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I think one of the things that I'm proud of

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and we're unique to this project.

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So we, public engagement on this project

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has probably been a larger part of this project

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than probably any other project I've worked on.

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And so as Sarah suggested, when we started this project,

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she said, we can add public information meetings,

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which we have for most of our projects.

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And you're going to get a specific genre coming

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to these meetings.

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So let's go out and let's meet the people where they are.

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So we had our public engagement where we had these pop-ups,

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like at the beer garden and down at the farmers market.

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And then we had yard signs.

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And I think, well, it's in the book.

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I don't know if it's made it into your plan.

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And here's one of our committee members here, Hi, Kit.

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So we did, we had yard signs everywhere,

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trying to engage people.

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We had, of course, on our websites,

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trying to get people to give us feedback.

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So other than going door to door,

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I'm not sure what more we could have done

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to bring out city engagement.

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And not everyone's going to see the signs.

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Right, right.

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So I'm not like, I'm sad that some people missed it.

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But we did.

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It's just it's going to be in the newspaper now.

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And I don't want it coming back to us

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that we did not engage with our constituents.

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So that's what I'm saying,

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because that's what I've been hearing.

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I definitely think that delay is challenging the delay

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from when the engagement was to city council.

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And so it does seem a little frickish

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for the last year.

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Because we've narrowed all of our streets now

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to try and slow down traffic,

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which we need to do in our city.

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But where the streets were wider,

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that would have been an opportunity

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to put in a dedicated bike lane.

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So now I feel like we might have to undo what we've done

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just to connect.

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And it's important.

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I mean, you don't see kids riding their bikes to school

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like they used to, because it's not safe

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because they run up and down Northport

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and all of the other, hold in,

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and all of the other major streets.

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And getting out onto 32,

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when they leave the high school,

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you're putting your life in your hands,

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especially if you're walking.

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I've been almost hit there.

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So I don't want to talk about it forever.

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I want to get stuff done.

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But I do think we should entertain

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a little bit more time with it.

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And I definitely encourage you to grab a copy of the plan.

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I don't know, Rob, were you able to send out a link?

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Yeah.

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I read it.

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I read it.

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Okay, yeah.

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And the plan is available on the website.

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Because one of the other things

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that I think is important to note about the designs

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is that this is a planning level document, right?

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Exactly.

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And so really what this plan is most about

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is identifying the locations that need improvements.

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And then once we move forward on those locations,

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that's when we really nail down with the engineering,

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like what actually makes sense here?

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That's when we're doing the traffic counts,

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the turning counts and all of that.

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So with this plan, I think it definitely is more of a,

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what are those hotspot locations?

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And the ones that you mentioned are all on there as

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Exactly.

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On locations.

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Exactly.

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So I think that's a good first step.

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Yes, definitely.

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I think we have a lot more work to do.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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Do you want to speak to that?

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Well, to having first seen this late last week,

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I kind of agree with all the room in Miller

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that we should have some more time.

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I have some comments on this too

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that I'd like to at least have considered

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before we vote to approve it.

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I don't want to vote to approve it

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and then start sticking comments onto it later.

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So coming tonight that really we've only seen this

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for a few days and then voting on it seems to me

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to be a little bit premature.

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But to address some of older woman Miller's comments

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about narrowing the roads and the opportunities

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for bike lanes, those streets that we've been narrowing

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by and large do not have a traffic volume

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that would make it that you'd even want to put

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a bike lane on it.

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But I want them off the main streets.

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I don't want to argue, you know,

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and we want to do the parallels as opposed to the mains.

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Yeah, but if you have a parallel street,

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you could do this a share or something like that.

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If it's a street that only has 700 vehicles a day on it

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or 500 vehicles a day or less,

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putting a bike lane on it is kind of pointless.

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It doesn't have enough traffic

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to really warrant any benefit out of it.

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And plus you're going to lose parking

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and I'm sure your constituents will be really happy

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to lose the parking pass their houses too.

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Many have alleys, they can use their alley.

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Yes, that actually is one of my comments that I have

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on here on the proposed network too.

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First, real quick, there's a couple of colors

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that are so close to each other

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that you really can't tell what they are

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when you print it yourself.

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Like a bike lane and a buffered bike lane

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or a, was it a, to a shared use path versus a side path

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are also very difficult to tell.

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But in some areas like where we show putting a bike lane

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on Grand Avenue West of Spring Street,

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that's going through a few blocks of areas with alleys.

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And if we lose the parking in order to put in a bike lane,

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people there because they have an alley in the back

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don't really have any additional parking

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unless they start parking down the side road

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and that is not going to be a popular,

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or a popular choice to close their parking

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in front of their homes.

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They may not use it a lot,

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but they will be upset when it's gone,

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saying like a restricted lane is,

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I think would probably be better in that area.

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But anyway, like I said, I have some other comments too

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on it and I don't think we want to hash through

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every one of my comments tonight.

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I'd like to just address two of those things.

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One is the parking discussion.

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This is always, this is always a hot topic, right?

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And I think that this is kind of a fundamental decision

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that cities have to make of where they value

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or how they value the right of way

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if they want to use it for metal storage

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or if they want to prioritize it

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for various type of metal movement.

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And those are challenging conversations.

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What I have found in the past is that

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the fear of change is much worse

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than once something happens.

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And so when we thought about that near term network,

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there are some parts of that near term network

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that might need some parking removal.

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And I'd like to encourage you to think of those

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as kind of test case scenarios and pilot projects

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to see if they work.

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Because I think if a couple of projects are successful,

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people see them, people get used to them,

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there will be a lot more benefit in the future

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and people will just kind of come around

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if those work correctly.

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And so really thinking of these near term projects,

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more pilot projects, might be a more digestible way

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to think of it.

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The other thing I want to talk about

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is just the street narrowing and or not narrowing

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and then having space for the bike lane.

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One thing that is often challenging for us

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in communities like Port Washington

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is when you have that bike lane space on the road

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and you may not have a ton of bicyclists,

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the visual it gives drivers is that it's just a wider road

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and they're going to go faster.

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And so decreasing that roadway,

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even if that means that the bicyclist may be

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in the lane with vehicles is often safer for bicyclists

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because that wider space just implies that you can go fast.

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And on roadways that are wider or have larger traffic,

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those are really streets where biking in a bike lane

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is probably not comfortable for most folks.

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And so I have two kids in elementary school.

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There are many streets around our home

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that I will not bike with them on,

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even though it does have a bike lane.

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And there's many streets with no bike lanes

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that I feel perfectly fine with them

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in the middle of the street.

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So many of those kind of bike lane

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or, you know, share-o experiences

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are much more tied to the vehicles on that street per day

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in the speeds versus actually the width.

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So another thing to addressing a comment

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from Alderman Miller about kids not riding the bike

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so much these days.

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I would argue some of that comes out

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of our local school districts policies

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which discourage kids from riding bikes.

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They will not allow third graders or younger

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to ride their bike to school because I don't know,

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they might accidentally bike in twist rangers house

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or something.

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It's a weird policy to me.

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When I was in first grade, I could bike to school

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and it was fine, but today it's scarier

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even though crime is lower.

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So I think some of that's coming off of other policies

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too that are not good.

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There's also the argument, you know,

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Port Washington was famously the first city in the state

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to have a helmet requirement.

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There are some studies that indicate

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that on an overall societal health perspective

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that might actually be counterproductive

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because there are kids who just won't bike

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if they have to wear a helmet.

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And if you don't get them into the habit of biking,

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they never really get into it.

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And overall, a society health results are worse

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even considering the unfortunate somebody bashes their head in

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because they don't have a helmet.

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But it's one of those things that kind

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of counterintuitively might be discouraging biking.

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Or I don't know if it's counterintuitive,

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but some studies have indicated

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that it may be discouraging biking.

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So that's something that I really didn't see much in here too

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was other policies like that locally

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that we should be, you know,

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I'm not gonna say that we should encourage

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just get rid of our helmet law,

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but should we be doing more to encourage the schools

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to encourage kids to bike?

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Because that's part of the thing that we run into

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that makes more traffic particularly

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on those morning and afternoon peaks

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is if everybody, and bus service is not what it used to be

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either and you see a lot more parents

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individually driving their kids to school

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rather than kids that walk or bike.

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And are those policies that we really need to work

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with the school district on in order to try to better

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the bike ability of the city

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because it would also, if more kids bike to school,

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it lowers the traffic on our streets at the same time.

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So yes, yes, yes, yes.

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And a couple of those things.

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So in the programs and policy recommendations

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in this plan, there is one that's around doing

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a safe routes to school plan.

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So that would involve doing education, encouragement,

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kind of culture change programs around schools.

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Cause like I said before, you know,

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most kids in Port Washington live within two miles

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of their school.

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And in many cases that's considered bikeable.

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But when the culture is that we drive our kids to school

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then everybody just keeps doing that culture.

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And so really a safe routes to school program,

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I think could help change the conversation and expectations

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about what's the normal way to get to school in Port.

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And so that is one of the recommendations.

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We also have some reviews of kind of city bike policies.

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One of the other ones besides,

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we didn't touch the helmet one,

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but another one that's on there is that all bikes

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are supposed to be registered with the police department,

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her Port Washington code.

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The police chief didn't know about that.

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So like it's not one that's being enforced.

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And many communities in Wisconsin

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and throughout the country have that same,

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like you must register your bike,

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but nobody's doing it.

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It's not useful.

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And if it was something that was really going to be enforced,

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it could restrict people who want to be biking

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and should be biking from biking

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because of fear of enforcement.

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And so we do have a couple of recommendations

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about kind of greater bike policies

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that might be restricting or discouraging folks

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from biking now.

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One final comment.

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I do want to thank you for putting in the multi-mobility

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for those who are in wheelchairs

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and are other ways of getting places in their own devices.

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I think that's good that we should keep that in the back

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of our head because we do have a lot of people

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in our community that are in wheelchairs.

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I need that.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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I just have one comment.

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Is there, what's the downside to tabling this

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and voting at the next meeting?

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Is there anything that's going to be implemented

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in the near future?

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Just like, I know Nick was looking forward to seeing this.

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And I think a few of us have voiced

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just concern of wanting a bit more time to review.

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And that obviously don't want to hold things up

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but just want to understand,

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are there any items that are planned

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and being implemented in the very near future?

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And what the downside would be to tabling this

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for the next session?

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So we can table this to the next meeting

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and that would be fine.

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I guess I would just ask that everyone submit their comments

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to me in the next couple of weeks

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and then we can address those

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and then bring that to our next meeting

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if there's any discussion that needs to be had on any of those.

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So hopefully we can just address everyone's comments

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individually and we'll report on that.

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But yeah, we can bring it back

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to the next Board of Public Works,

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each will be May 12th, I think.

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And then hopefully we'd be able to take it

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to the council meeting immediately

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after Board of Public Works.

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So we could still get it approved in May.

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Our deadline for the grant, I think is the end of June.

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Yep, so yeah, our grant ends June 30th.

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So we'd like to finish it before June 30th.

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All right, any other questions or comments?

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If not, I will entertain a motion.

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I'll motion to table this until our meeting.

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Microphone.

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I motion to table this matter until our May meeting, May 12th.

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All right, we have a motion on the floor to table this

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till the May 12th meeting, is there a second?

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I'll second that.

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Now we have a second.

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Any discussion on the motion?

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Seeing none, all those in favor, say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Motion carries.

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All right, thank you.

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Thank you.

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That moves us on to item five.

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Presentation on 60% design plans for Valley Creek.

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Okay.

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I think you guys have been spending about a day a week here

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for last month or two.

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I feel like I was just here.

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In fact, I look to see if I had notes still here.

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Yeah.

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Let's see if I can do presentation here.

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Did you wanna say something?

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Yeah, I don't know if I need to introduce these guys anymore,

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but yeah, this is Melissa Kern and Heather Swar

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from Stantech.

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They are part of the team that is working

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on the Valley Creek design.

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In October, they appeared before Board of Public Works

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to present the 30% plan.

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So we completed the 60% plans at the end of March.

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And so they're here to present that to you.

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And we are on the road to full complete 90% completion,

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excuse me, by the end of May.

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And so if after watching the presentation today,

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you have any questions, certainly get those to me

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and we'll make sure that they get answered

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so that we can address any questions you have

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before the next time that they present.

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Thank you, Rob.

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So just again, I'm Melissa.

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I've been here many times presenting on this project.

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I've actually been with Rob since the beginning.

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My role is really working on the visioning

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and the funding side of this project.

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Heather's gonna do most of the talking.

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She's the engineer on the project.

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But first, I'd like to just talk a little bit

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about updates on funding.

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So you guys know that we did secure the two large grants

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to fund the design work up to the 90% design.

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So that's what's funding our current scope of work.

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In addition to that, we do actually have some grant funds

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to do some ecological restoration

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in the parks along Valley Creek.

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So we're planting trees next week at Birchwood

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and upper Lake Park.

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So I just wanna let you guys know

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that there is kind of work happening

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sort of in prep for this much larger project.

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But then I'd like to fast forward a little bit

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and give you an update on where we're at

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with the construction funding.

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So I list them here at the top is the TID number five funding

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which had been approved as part of that package.

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So that's roughly $10 million of which has been allocated

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to the stream restoration project.

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Then there is the private contribution from vantage

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and the amount of about 2.4 million.

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And that's been earmarked solely for construction.

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And then we did apply for a DNR recreational trails grant

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for around $100,000 to replace

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or to actually construct a bridge at the mouth

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with Lake Michigan.

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You guys have an existing trail

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that obviously goes over the culverts that is there.

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But once the culvert is gone,

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we will need to put a bridge there.

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So there's a small amount of money

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that could fund just that project alone.

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And we did apply for discretionary congressional funding

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in the amount of about $4 million.

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I don't know the process I'm hearing back from that, Rob.

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Do you know, is that several months out?

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So they did ask for a requested amount

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and then a minimum amount.

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So I did put $4 million as the requested amount

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but said we would accept up to $1.5 million.

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So I let them know that certainly,

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you know, just about any amount we would take.

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We did submit a National Fish and Wildlife Foundation grant

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through the National Coastal Resiliency Fund

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in the amount of $6.35 million.

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That is a pre-proposal we should find out

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in a couple weeks if we're invited for a full proposal.

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That would get submitted in July.

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So it'll be a really good sign

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if we do get invited for the full proposal.

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And that same amount of money or that same program

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is what's funding the current design.

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And they do like to fund these pipeline projects.

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So this particular program invests in the planning.

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The thought is that they invest

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in the implementation as well.

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So it's, they call it their pipeline projects.

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And then tomorrow we are submitting AD and our grant

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under their targeted runoff management grant program

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for a little over $200,000.

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That's going to fund some of the stormwater improvements

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that are associated with the stream restoration.

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So if we were to get all of this money

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and the amounts requested,

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I think we would have a really healthy amount

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to fund a large portion of the construction phase

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of this project.

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It is quite possible that some of them

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come back with lower amounts

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or we don't get funded for some of them.

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That's okay.

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We can always reapply many of these opportunities

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come around every year.

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If we don't get it, we always learn really valuable lessons

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and we adjust and hopefully put a stronger application forward.

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There's always the chance that,

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or always the opportunity rather

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that we can construct this project in phases.

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So, once we're done with the design or this between now

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and when we get to the 90% design,

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those are going to be discussions we have

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with the city about what phase of this project

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is really important to move forward now

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and what portion of the project

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could we build at a later time.

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So, I'm not too worried about getting all the money

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at one time, if need be, we'll just work in phases

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and we'll work really closely with you guys

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and what you want to prioritize.

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And I think with that,

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I'm going to turn it over to Heather

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to give you an update on the 60% design.

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Hi everybody.

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As Rob said in October, we presented the 30% design.

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My coworker, Pat Philbin, was here to do that presentation.

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So, if you think back to October,

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lots of figures that showed more conceptual design,

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ideas was presented, right?

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They had more pretty pictures.

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Well, since then, the engineers have taken over

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and we like to put together our plan sets.

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And so, I'm not going to go through page by page.

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It's over 60 pages long.

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Rob has a link to it.

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If you want to share that with them,

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let me know, I know we're going to go through the comments.

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But today, I wanted to be kind of a higher level here

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and emphasize this is the upper reach of the project.

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When we presented the 30%,

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we didn't show anything upstream of Norport Drive.

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We concentrated on Norport down to Lake Street.

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And today, I'm going to highlight a little bit of the work

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for stream bank stabilization upstream in Norport Drive.

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That's one of the changes that you'll see in the plan set

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from 30 to 60%.

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All the things that we have done

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is we've added in more details regarding the stream structures,

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the Norport and hails trail bridge refinements,

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some grading details, seating and planting plans.

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Those are things that I'll show you

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a couple pictures of them.

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And we've also added or significantly changed

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some elements of the design since the 30%.

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And you guys are well aware of the one

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that I'm going to highlight today, of course, is Lake Street.

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So when we met a month ago,

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we asked you guys about putting something forward

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as far as a bigger daylighting.

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And you'll see an image in a little while here

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that's an update to that since we last talked.

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So this is the downstream reach, just remind everybody.

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And this is where that Lake Street change has happened.

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But the overall stream alignment

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of what you saw for 30% to 60% really hasn't changed much,

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just been a little bit more refined.

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So let's just talk about some overall stream cross sections.

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And then I'm going to go into the stream bank's north

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of Norport and then I'll go into the regenerative stormwater

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conveyances, like I said, the bridges,

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including Lake Street.

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And then I'll show you the vegetation plans.

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So as you know, we're proposing a series of pools

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and riffles throughout the Valley Creek corridor.

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Here's an example of the refinements

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that we've made to the typical riffle cross sections.

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We've added in just more details on the side slopes.

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The amount of floodplain we're going to have.

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We've been refining it back and forth

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with our hydraulic modeling for conveyance purposes.

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And just the sizing of riffle material

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has just been adjusted.

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So the cross section shouldn't look too different

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from what you saw, but it just has more of the numbers

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have been figured out that you'd see in the plans

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if you look on the detail of each and every cross section.

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And same thing with the typical pool section, right?

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We've updated the depths and the elevations

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that actually these would be done.

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And so I'm just going to show you one page from the plan set.

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I just cut a section out so you could see one of the pages.

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So for example, in this bend of the river,

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the refinements are to the dimensions of the pools

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and riffles, and then we updated the channel profile.

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So I don't think those profiles look like that

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when you saw 30%.

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So since then we've added in the elevations,

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each and every riffle, we figured out

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what the proper elevation should be,

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what the slope on each one should be,

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from a hydraulic standpoint, from fishery standpoint,

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from just the overall grade of the channel.

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So that has really been refined.

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But overall, there really hasn't been any,

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what I would call significant changes

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to completing of the stream design.

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It's just been more refined.

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But what is new in the 60% is the inclusion of that area

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north of Northport Drive.

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So in February, and I remember it's February

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because there was still quite a bit of ice out there,

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we completed a stream walk to examine the stream banks

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and the erosional areas to the northern portion of the extent.

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Like what would line up with the extent of terrace drive, right?

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We went all the way up to that reach of the river.

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We noted the root depths, their density,

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any existing surface protection.

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So like if somebody had placed rock,

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or if there was some logs,

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or anything protecting the surface of a stream bank,

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we noted the bank angle and the bank height,

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and the overall length of a stream bank

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that was actually eroding.

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And so most banks were about four to five feet.

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There was a couple that were, I think,

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were 10 and 11 feet high,

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but most of them were four to five feet high.

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Bank angles were about 60 to 90 degrees,

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so very vertical banks were in there.

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And lots of just shallow root depths and low root density.

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So less than six to 12 inches,

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it really didn't have a whole lot of depth to the root.

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So we categorized then each one of those stream banks,

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we went back and grabbed all that data,

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and we categorized things into low, moderate,

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high and very high erosion rates for all the stream banks

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up in that northern reach.

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And we're suggesting stabilizing the areas

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with high and very high erosion rates.

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It equates to approximately 1,700 feet.

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It's gonna be a little bit more than that,

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because you're gonna have to do some tie-in.

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So I'm just gonna use the round number

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of about 2,000 linear feet is what we're right now suggesting.

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And we're gonna continue to evaluate those areas

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as we progress this, the stream banks design here.

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And what you can see here is just a typical area

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on the left figure where you can see the little purple lines.

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That is the place that we're talking about

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putting in some of the soil lifts.

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So you can see on the outside of bends

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is we're talking about putting some soil lifts in.

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The figure to the right in the lower right-hand corner there

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shows you where the soil lift would look like.

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It's some people call them soil burritos.

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That's where you take a piece of erosion control fabric

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and you put soil in them and you basically wrap it back

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like a burrito and you can see them, you can plant them,

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you can put live stakes in between them

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and it helps stabilize that stream bank.

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And there's a picture of one up on the top.

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This was one that was built with forms

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meaning they use wood forms.

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So that's why it's got a very straight edge to it.

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If you don't use a form, they don't have

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that straight edge look to them.

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So we can talk about what you'd actually want it

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to look like as far as using forms.

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But let's see here.

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The other thing I wanted to point out on the figure

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on the left there is the things that you see

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with the purple boxes there

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and then the little stippling between them.

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That is one of the regenerative stormwater

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conveyance systems.

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And so that's the area that is the drainage path

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that's feeding from Britwood Hills, the pond that's there.

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And so this is one of the places

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that we would want to do one of those

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regenerative stormwater conveyance.

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It's where we would have a series of step pools

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and infiltration areas as a drain of transitions

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into the main channel.

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So we have some designs for each one

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of the regenerative stormwater conveyance systems

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throughout the plan set.

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There's, I think it's 13.

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I should know the number.

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I think it's 13 of them throughout Valley Creek.

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And this is just a zoom in of what one

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of those regenerative stormwater conveyance systems

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would actually look like.

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You can see up at the top end

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where you start with a riffle

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and you transition into some of these more rocky areas

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and then there's some larger rocks and it cascades down.

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So they're designed to slow down, filter,

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and treat the stormwater.

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That is what reduces the pollutants

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and before it reaches the waterway.

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That's what those are doing.

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So in the proposed Valley Creek plans,

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there are two different types

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of these regenerative stormwater conveyance.

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There's one that's included

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is more step pools leading into a riffle wear

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and there's the step pools leading into a cascade wear.

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They're very similar, has more to do

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with what type of rock and the grade

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that you're changing them on there.

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But you'll see in the plans, two different kinds.

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And that is what they're typically gonna look like

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and the length of them will vary depending on where you are.

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Norport drive crossing.

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Last time we talked to it 30%,

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we didn't have sizing done for the bridge at Norport.

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We now have figured out what we need

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for hydraulic capacity, what the size is going to be.

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It's 83 feet long.

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So an 83 foot wide on the roadway.

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It's 28 by seven precast three set of culvert

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is what the one at Norport is that we're proposing.

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And then it hails trail the same thing.

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We didn't have sizes done that

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and we do now it's about 106 feet long,

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42 by 10 three sided culvert again.

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And here you can see at hails trail

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too there's another storm water conveyance system

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that we're proposing that's coming in right there

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on the left bank.

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I'm sorry, right bank, right bank.

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Got a quick question for you on there.

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Why do we have the length so much more

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than what it is from back to sidewalk to back to sidewalk?

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Because this is one that we're,

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I don't think it's that much longer.

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Are you saying, oh, oh, that's just

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because of the side slopes coming down over the top.

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Oh, okay.

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That's I see what you're talking about.

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The projection on the two sides.

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Yeah, it's the side slopes coming down.

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Okay, so that's, it's more effective either cost wise

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or whatever to go longer that way

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than to have a larger head wall.

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Yes.

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And also for safety purposes too, right?

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We didn't want to have a steep sided.

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We want some four to one slopes,

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I think it is going down to the sides.

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Okay.

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So that is something I can bring up

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with our transportation engineers too.

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So you'll see later when I talk about Lake Street,

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we're having our transportation traffic engineers

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look at all three of the bridge crossings

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from a traffic efficiency, from a safety point of view.

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That's something that's happening right now.

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Yeah, because on a local road like this,

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you really, you have a clear zone

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except you don't have a clear zone

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like you do on a highway.

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So you really wouldn't need to have

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any vehicle safe barrier on the outside.

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That just a railing would be enough to keep bikes

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or pedestrians from going over would be adequate

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in that perspective.

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But saying that, this is safer

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if a car were to go off of the edge.

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And I think with the sidewalks being there too,

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I think that's something that we were looking at,

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but I can talk to them specifically about it.

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Melissa, do you remember any other reason why?

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I think we talked about it from a safety standpoint.

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Was our main concern.

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Oh, one of the other things I wanted to point out,

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the cross section of the bridge there,

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and you can see where the channel is,

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it's pushed over to one side.

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That's because first of all,

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the channel itself is meandering through here,

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but we are looking at the possibility

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of aligning the stream to one side of the culvert

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so we can actually have a bike path going through

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the culvert itself.

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So we're working on that right now

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of how much head clearance do we need,

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and can we get it if we shift the stream over

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to one side and have the bike path going through there.

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So that's something that we're looking at now.

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But perhaps the largest change,

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and this won't come to surprise to any of you,

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but since the 30% in October that we're proposing

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these changes at Lake Street,

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which the Board of Public Works,

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you guys saw a presentation on it in March,

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the alternative is shared with City Council last week,

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and we're progressing the design towards 60% right now.

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You can see a few updates have been made

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since you've last seen it,

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but I don't think it's anything

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starkly different than what you've seen.

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We just refined a few things.

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It's really more about colors on here,

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I think than anything.

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Same thing with the parking spaces.

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They're the same that we are showing you then.

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It's the increased green space

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that improved fish passage that we talked about.

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I can tell you guys, we've gotten further

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with the hydraulic modeling,

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and we are showing a significant flood risk benefits.

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I will say it's preliminary,

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but it's about a three foot drop of water surface.

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That's significant by opening up Lake Street.

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Three feet is, that's a lot.

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And the world of hydraulics,

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when they tell you a no rise,

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you're going down to 0.001 inches is what we're feet

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is what we're usually looking at,

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and for me to say three feet,

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it's one of the largest drops I've seen.

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I'll say I'm like in an urban area of modeling

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that we've done for a reduction.

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So significant.

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And like I said, we're having our transportation

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and traffic engineers look at this

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because I know there were some concerns

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about when you're coming down the hill,

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there's a parking space there,

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the turn radius going over to the wastewater treatment plant,

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things like that,

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we're having them look specifically at the safety elements

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and just the efficiency elements of that.

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And the other thing that's new in the 60% design

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that wasn't in the 30% is,

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I just want to highlight is,

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we've now added in the native seeds,

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the shrub and the tree planting plants.

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We're going to be planting throughout

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the whole Valley Creek corridor,

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preliminary seed mixes and woody plant lists

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are included in the 60% plant set.

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And we're going to be refining those plant lists,

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working with our stakeholder group

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that consists of partners such as

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Wisconsin Coastal Management,

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Surpac, Wisconsin Bird and Bat Conservancy,

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the city of course in Stantec.

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So those are the biggest changes.

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I thought now would be a good time to,

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of course, thank the project team,

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the city for all that you've helped us with over the last,

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between the 30% to 60%.

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And I would love to hear what questions you guys have.

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And I can page through something

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if you want me to go back.

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Sure, I have one real quick.

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You had mentioned funding for the bridge

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at the mouth of the creek at the lake.

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What type of bridge are we looking at there?

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Is it just a pedestrian bridge

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or something that an emergency vehicle

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can drive across also?

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Yeah, I think we really haven't designed those elements.

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So the one thing I think you were going to mention

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is that some of the,

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we are going to get to 90% for the stream project,

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but some elements like maybe some of the bridge designs

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and the recreational trail

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are going to maybe linger a little bit.

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And that's okay.

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Like the biggest goal was the stream

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because we wanted to meet some funding timelines.

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So we can design it however you guys need it to be.

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And if safety vehicles are a priority,

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then that's what we will do.

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Okay, thank you.

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Yes, just a quick comment.

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I do appreciate all the time and energy

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you have spent on that

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and all the time and energy you have shared with us here.

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Because not only do we get to hear it,

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but our constituents get to hear it on YouTube

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at their leisure.

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So thank you.

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It's a, and thank the staff too.

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I appreciate all your work listening to us ramble on.

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All right, any other questions or comments?

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Look forward to seeing it start to get built

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hopefully in a year or so.

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And I don't think I'm here next week.

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So I won't see you then.

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Okay, we'll wait till next month.

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All right.

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Then we'll move on to item six presentation

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of tit number five, project planning.

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All right, I'll use the dead air space

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to introduce these guys.

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So we have with us Ben Wood from Strand

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and Aaron Grohl from Kapoor,

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who are going to make a presentation

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on what the next five years

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may look like as far as project planning

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and implementation related to TID-5,

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which of course involves everything

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from extending water up into Canalesville

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to increasing the size of the sewer interceptor

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running from down Terrace Drive

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and all the way down to the wastewater plant.

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So there is some synergy between this project

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and the Valley Creek project

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because the sanitary interceptor runs

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through the Valley Creek corridor.

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And if, yeah, Ben is, so as you know, Strand

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is the city's consultant for most of our water

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or water and wastewater projects.

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And so they are essentially providing that direction

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to the Kapoor team

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who are designing many of these projects.

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And so they are working in tandem on this

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and we meet every week to discuss these things.

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Yeah, I apologize, give me one more minute

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to give this another shot.

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Well, as we wait to let everyone know

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that the radar looks pretty exciting to our west.

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Thanks.

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Valley Creek is, we're going to be

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honestly, it'll help us with a story like a kid or something.

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Yeah.

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Hopefully they're in the basement right now.

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Now, the nastiest part looks like it's heading

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for a theme spell in that one, so.

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You know, it's not a city break, look at it.

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Computer is not happy with me right now.

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I'm happy with the cake.

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Yeah.

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Oh, we don't get softball size hail.

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We're good, but it looks like

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we're just going to get a little water.

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Okay, I apologize, the screen will be slightly reduced,

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but I think we will be able to work through it this way.

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You want to just going to get back to here first.

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You want me to project it?

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Do you have the ability to bring it up?

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Otherwise, I'm fine to roll with this.

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This will just not be as smooth as as hoped,

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but we will still get through this.

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Yes, thank you very much for bringing us out here tonight.

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The intent of the presentation tonight is to give everyone

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a little insight into what Kapoor and Strand

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and the city staff have been collaborating on

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to develop the TID project plan

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and how the planning for those projects is coming together

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and what the next five years of those projects will look like.

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So we'll start with a brief overview of the TID project plan.

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We'll go over some of the key planning issues

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and the impetus for those projects,

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the upcoming planned projects categorized by city coordination,

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vantage and adjacent areas, offsite projects,

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other city capital improvements.

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There's a project index and project summary at the end.

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So first off, the TID project plan overview.

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This is a developer finance TID,

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which is important to note,

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the developer is at risk for the financing of these projects

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and that is all established

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in the recorded development agreement.

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The TID project plan,

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the cover page of which is shown here

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and developed by ELLERS,

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identified approximately $180 million of total city-led

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public infrastructure projects.

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The basis for that project need was categorized

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into expanded service area, redundancy and resiliency

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and capacity needs.

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Approximately $100 million of those city-led projects

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are described in this presentation tonight

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as slated for the next 100 years.

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And Erin and I together have collaborated

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in helping to plan those projects.

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This map shows the project site overview.

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You may recognize this from many past presentations.

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The vantage lands are shown in yellow and pink.

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The yellow is the southern portion of the site

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that's currently being developed, the pink.

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There are no site-specific plans proposed for that,

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but that's also part of the vantage lands.

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The Canalsville obligation area is shown in blue.

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And then the logical adjacent lands are shown in green.

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The city may not have like an overt intent

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to serve the green lands with municipal utilities.

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However, the Southeastern Wisconsin Regional Planning

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Commission or sewer pack asked the city to plan

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for what adjacent lands might logically want

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municipal utilities or be connected to municipal utilities

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once they're run up to this portion of the city as shown.

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This map shows all of the upcoming planned city-led projects.

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This is just an overview map.

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We're gonna spend a lot of time in tonight's presentation

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kind of getting into these in more details.

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The project categories include developer-led TID projects.

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I understand Graf made a presentation

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to city council last week on some of those.

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This map, which shows the city-led TID projects.

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And I just wanna point out that when you see zoomed

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in portions of this map, you'll be able to see

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that each project is labeled with a project ID

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such as 26-1.

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That represents the intended construction start year.

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So obviously 26 is intended to start yet this year.

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And then we're aware of other city capital improvements

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that need to be coordinated.

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The scheduled drivers for these city-led projects

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have to do with occupancy on the vantage site

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and the Canalesville Obligation area dictated

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by an inter municipal agreement.

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Citywide coordination is a major impetus

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for making this presentation tonight.

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And it's something that our staffs and city staff

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have been working on together

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through ongoing meetings over the last several months.

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These projects touch every corner

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of the city of Port Washington.

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And the success depends on strong coordination

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across public partners, community organizations,

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businesses and internal operations.

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The approach is multi-faceted to coordinate early,

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communicate clearly and keep the community

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moving forward together.

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This graphic just demonstrates the community

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and inter-agency coordination efforts

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which range from education partners,

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regional partners, utility and infrastructure partners,

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known tourism and events, businesses,

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waterfront and city operations stakeholders.

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The strategy here is to roll this out

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to Public Works Committee,

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this whole TID project planning

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to Public Works Committee tonight.

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And next week again to City Council,

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get your input and feedback on that

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and city staff intends to have outreach

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with these entities forthcoming and ongoing.

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This is the first slide that's going to dive in

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to some of the specific projects.

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The presentation or our thought process

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in presenting these is to group the projects together

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by need.

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So 2026 construction start-year projects

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are primarily focused on what is necessary

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and essential to serve the vantage lands

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being developed right now.

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And you'll see as we roll through the presentation

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that other project needs

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kind of drive the coordination

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of various other groups of projects.

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What this map shows,

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and I'm going to attempt to use the laser pointer here

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behind us at least,

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there's these two blue stars

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that represents the point of connection

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from Vantage's on-site private utilities

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to the city's public utilities.

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Vantage has requested that looping

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or service extensions, I should say,

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to these points of connection be completed by 2027.

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And those projects are shown here, there's three of them.

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First is County Highway LL Water and Sewer.

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This project is nearly substantially complete.

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And we're talking about within weeks,

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but that is shown in the black line work here.

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Next up is Project 26-1,

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which would loop water main from the Thomas Water Tower

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along Main Ranch Road

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to loop toward that southern point of connection

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and include some water main

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going up through a portion of Canalesville.

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26-2, the main driver is water main

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and that project is water main only to loop

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to that northern point of connection.

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One of the strategies overall

01:00:46.060 --> 01:00:50.460
in trying to coordinate these is to minimize disruptions

01:00:50.460 --> 01:00:53.020
and detour routes to the extent that we can

01:00:53.020 --> 01:00:55.300
or the duration of detour routes.

01:00:55.300 --> 01:00:58.020
So with Project 26-1,

01:00:58.020 --> 01:01:00.020
because we know that the city is obligated

01:01:00.020 --> 01:01:03.060
to also provide Canalesville with sewer utilities

01:01:03.060 --> 01:01:05.220
while the main driver is water means,

01:01:05.220 --> 01:01:07.300
while that road is opened up,

01:01:07.300 --> 01:01:10.500
the intent is to accomplish the sewer infrastructure there

01:01:10.500 --> 01:01:11.340
as well.

01:01:13.260 --> 01:01:15.260
I'm gonna turn it over to Aaron to talk about

01:01:15.260 --> 01:01:17.380
a couple project specifics

01:01:17.380 --> 01:01:21.020
and Aaron just hit the over key to advance.

01:01:21.020 --> 01:01:23.020
All right, thanks Ben.

01:01:23.020 --> 01:01:23.940
Good evening everybody.

01:01:23.940 --> 01:01:24.900
Hopefully we can get through here

01:01:24.900 --> 01:01:26.820
before these big storms come through.

01:01:26.820 --> 01:01:30.660
So just real quick to add on to what Ben was just talking

01:01:30.660 --> 01:01:34.340
about, 26-1 is the first of two projects

01:01:34.340 --> 01:01:36.100
that we're planning on completing

01:01:36.100 --> 01:01:41.100
and constructing this year and into early 2027.

01:01:41.660 --> 01:01:45.020
This project would connect a water

01:01:46.380 --> 01:01:49.860
near the water tower across I-43 up to Mink Ranch Road

01:01:49.860 --> 01:01:52.300
and from Mink Ranch Road all the way up to

01:01:52.300 --> 01:01:55.180
where we finished this winter on Highland Drive

01:01:55.180 --> 01:01:57.820
near the bridge that goes underneath I-43.

01:01:57.820 --> 01:02:00.140
And then also as Ben just did,

01:02:00.140 --> 01:02:03.100
extending also up north on KW

01:02:03.100 --> 01:02:06.140
to approximately where the boat storage facility is.

01:02:06.140 --> 01:02:06.980
If you know where that is,

01:02:06.980 --> 01:02:09.980
that's the north limits of this 26-1.

01:02:09.980 --> 01:02:13.180
So there's about 8,000 feet of water main,

01:02:13.180 --> 01:02:14.900
3,000 feet of sanitary sewer.

01:02:14.900 --> 01:02:17.860
And then also the ability for the residents

01:02:17.860 --> 01:02:21.300
and property owners in Canalsville to connect

01:02:21.300 --> 01:02:25.940
with sanitary sewer laterals and water services as well.

01:02:25.940 --> 01:02:28.780
The purpose is to add an additional loop

01:02:28.780 --> 01:02:32.100
across I-43 for redundancy.

01:02:32.100 --> 01:02:35.100
So that's the second line where we would cross I-43

01:02:35.100 --> 01:02:37.060
near the water tower.

01:02:37.060 --> 01:02:40.860
And then also to serve the Canalsville obligation,

01:02:40.860 --> 01:02:42.860
which is part of the agreement

01:02:42.860 --> 01:02:45.180
for annexation of this area.

01:02:46.220 --> 01:02:51.140
When you say near the bridge by 43 by the creek,

01:02:51.140 --> 01:02:54.540
are we, is this going to go down under the bridge

01:02:54.540 --> 01:02:55.900
along the railroad?

01:02:55.900 --> 01:02:58.700
Or are we going to bore under 43 just for a pipe?

01:02:58.700 --> 01:03:02.620
We'll bore underneath within a casing pipe

01:03:02.620 --> 01:03:05.820
on the east side of the railroad tracks.

01:03:05.820 --> 01:03:06.660
Okay.

01:03:06.660 --> 01:03:07.500
All right.

01:03:07.500 --> 01:03:08.340
Thank you.

01:03:09.180 --> 01:03:11.100
So the project schedule,

01:03:11.100 --> 01:03:12.900
and I'll discuss this a little bit later

01:03:12.900 --> 01:03:16.380
in a couple of slides down as far as subject permitting,

01:03:16.380 --> 01:03:19.060
but our plans are at about 90%.

01:03:19.060 --> 01:03:23.500
We, and the intent is to go out to bid in April or May.

01:03:23.500 --> 01:03:26.780
And the construction timeline is about three and a half

01:03:26.780 --> 01:03:29.260
months to complete this work.

01:03:29.260 --> 01:03:30.100
Okay.

01:03:31.580 --> 01:03:35.460
26-2 is an extension of 26-1.

01:03:35.500 --> 01:03:38.860
It starts from the boat storage facility again

01:03:38.860 --> 01:03:41.260
on KW heads north to Lake Drive,

01:03:41.260 --> 01:03:43.300
and then heads east on Lake Drive to connect

01:03:43.300 --> 01:03:46.860
to that northern star, the blue star

01:03:46.860 --> 01:03:48.300
that Ben was referencing before.

01:03:48.300 --> 01:03:52.620
So that's the secondary access point to the vantage site.

01:03:52.620 --> 01:03:54.780
This is again, just water main,

01:03:54.780 --> 01:03:57.300
about 11,000 feet of water main.

01:03:57.300 --> 01:03:59.100
The intent is to provide looping

01:03:59.100 --> 01:04:01.300
for the vantage project site itself,

01:04:01.300 --> 01:04:04.220
and also to serve the obligation for Canalsville.

01:04:05.660 --> 01:04:08.340
Next slide, we'll talk about the permitting.

01:04:08.340 --> 01:04:10.580
The timeline is subject to permitting,

01:04:10.580 --> 01:04:12.940
but our plans are 90% complete.

01:04:12.940 --> 01:04:15.980
Again, intent is bidding out in April or May,

01:04:15.980 --> 01:04:18.820
and this project will last about four months.

01:04:21.660 --> 01:04:23.900
So key considerations.

01:04:23.900 --> 01:04:28.900
We, first of all, are coordinating with PSC and DNR already.

01:04:29.740 --> 01:04:32.220
We've had several meetings with both.

01:04:32.220 --> 01:04:34.860
Because there's over three miles worth of water main

01:04:34.860 --> 01:04:37.500
that triggers us to require

01:04:37.500 --> 01:04:40.620
for a construction authorization permit from PSC.

01:04:40.620 --> 01:04:45.300
So they'll be reviewing, we expect to apply to PSC

01:04:45.300 --> 01:04:47.620
and DNR for the water sewer,

01:04:47.620 --> 01:04:50.740
notice of intent all within the next couple of weeks.

01:04:50.740 --> 01:04:54.340
Upon approval from PSC, we'll start construction,

01:04:54.340 --> 01:04:56.700
and as Ben mentioned earlier,

01:04:56.700 --> 01:04:59.660
the intent is to try and have the water

01:04:59.660 --> 01:05:02.780
up to the northern connection point on Lake Drive

01:05:02.820 --> 01:05:05.020
by January of 27.

01:05:05.980 --> 01:05:09.340
One other item to note is just the phasing.

01:05:09.340 --> 01:05:11.660
We're completely aware that these two projects

01:05:11.660 --> 01:05:14.180
will likely have to be constructed concurrently,

01:05:14.180 --> 01:05:18.780
but we will specify in each project

01:05:18.780 --> 01:05:21.420
that 26-1, which is basically

01:05:21.420 --> 01:05:23.860
from the boat storage facility to the south,

01:05:23.860 --> 01:05:25.580
needs to be completed first

01:05:25.580 --> 01:05:29.460
before the work on 26-2 starts to the north of that.

01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:32.140
That way the contractors aren't tripping over each other,

01:05:32.140 --> 01:05:34.020
and it's a little bit easier for the residents

01:05:34.020 --> 01:05:37.740
that are along KW for those two projects.

01:05:37.740 --> 01:05:38.660
And then on the right side,

01:05:38.660 --> 01:05:41.220
you can see we have a draft detour map.

01:05:41.220 --> 01:05:42.420
This will be refined a little bit

01:05:42.420 --> 01:05:44.900
as we finalize our plans in the next couple of weeks,

01:05:44.900 --> 01:05:46.740
but this, it is key to make sure

01:05:46.740 --> 01:05:49.300
that we are addressing how the residents

01:05:49.300 --> 01:05:51.060
could get around these projects

01:05:51.060 --> 01:05:52.420
in conjunction with all the other work

01:05:52.420 --> 01:05:55.900
that's occurring out on this project area.

01:05:56.820 --> 01:05:58.580
All right, from that, I'll turn it back over to Ben.

01:05:58.580 --> 01:05:59.420
Thank you.

01:06:02.260 --> 01:06:03.100
Thank you.

01:06:03.100 --> 01:06:05.700
The next category of projects still has to do

01:06:05.700 --> 01:06:09.420
with the vantage site and completing the utility loops

01:06:09.420 --> 01:06:13.740
along the east side and back to the north point.

01:06:13.740 --> 01:06:18.740
So we can see, let's see, let's start with project 29-1.

01:06:19.420 --> 01:06:24.380
It kind of takes off from Highland Drive

01:06:24.380 --> 01:06:27.060
and follows County Highway LL,

01:06:27.060 --> 01:06:28.420
kind of all the way up to a point

01:06:28.420 --> 01:06:31.740
where we've identified the need for a sewer lift station,

01:06:31.740 --> 01:06:34.180
which is project 28-3.

01:06:34.180 --> 01:06:39.180
But again, you can see on 29-1, water, sewer, gravity sewer

01:06:39.620 --> 01:06:43.220
and the force main are all slated

01:06:43.220 --> 01:06:45.540
for the same construction year

01:06:45.540 --> 01:06:50.100
to just try to limit that road's disruption to one year.

01:06:50.940 --> 01:06:54.620
The sewer lift station is slated to happen

01:06:54.620 --> 01:06:57.180
in a different year for a couple of reasons.

01:06:57.180 --> 01:07:01.460
One is the lift stations just take a longer duration

01:07:01.460 --> 01:07:04.860
to construct, they have more equipment,

01:07:04.860 --> 01:07:06.700
especially electrical components,

01:07:06.700 --> 01:07:09.500
generators, control panels, et cetera,

01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:11.740
that have longer lead times.

01:07:11.740 --> 01:07:14.940
So it's not going to start in the same year

01:07:14.940 --> 01:07:17.340
that the utility extensions do,

01:07:17.340 --> 01:07:21.940
but they will be coordinated to complete at the same time.

01:07:23.100 --> 01:07:26.620
Projects 30-1 is kind of outlined in Brown here

01:07:26.620 --> 01:07:28.300
and it just kind of turns the corner

01:07:28.300 --> 01:07:30.700
from that plan lift station location

01:07:30.740 --> 01:07:33.420
back to that northern point of connection

01:07:33.420 --> 01:07:35.660
to the vantage site.

01:07:35.660 --> 01:07:37.980
The primary driver for that, again,

01:07:37.980 --> 01:07:39.460
is to complete a water main loop,

01:07:39.460 --> 01:07:42.980
but while the roadway is being worked on

01:07:42.980 --> 01:07:46.460
to put in gravity, sewer in those areas as well.

01:07:49.820 --> 01:07:53.420
The Canalesville obligation area is demonstrated here

01:07:53.420 --> 01:07:56.660
in the map, which is actually a comprehensive land use

01:07:56.660 --> 01:07:59.460
plan map for Canalesville.

01:07:59.460 --> 01:08:00.820
Just at a real high level,

01:08:00.820 --> 01:08:03.620
Canalesville is an unincorporated area

01:08:03.620 --> 01:08:06.260
within the town of Port Washington.

01:08:06.260 --> 01:08:09.900
There's an existing city town annexation agreement

01:08:09.900 --> 01:08:13.140
that identified that the city will provide water

01:08:13.140 --> 01:08:15.380
and sewer to Canalesville.

01:08:15.380 --> 01:08:17.700
And the current version of that agreement says

01:08:17.700 --> 01:08:21.860
that will be completed by the end of 2027.

01:08:21.860 --> 01:08:24.620
We'll talk a little bit more on the next slide here,

01:08:24.620 --> 01:08:27.300
how some of that might be adjusted.

01:08:28.300 --> 01:08:32.660
This map shows the Canalesville obligation projects.

01:08:32.660 --> 01:08:35.060
Some of these are repeat from a past slide.

01:08:35.060 --> 01:08:38.820
So 26-1 is needed to loop

01:08:39.820 --> 01:08:41.300
to the southern point of connection,

01:08:41.300 --> 01:08:46.020
but it also covers a lot of the Canalesville obligation area.

01:08:46.020 --> 01:08:49.860
We've delineated these by gravity sewer area projects

01:08:49.860 --> 01:08:52.260
and lift station area projects.

01:08:52.260 --> 01:08:54.500
And hopefully what you can distinguish

01:08:54.500 --> 01:08:57.740
is within Canalesville, which is shown in blue,

01:08:57.740 --> 01:08:59.420
there's the solid blue areas.

01:08:59.420 --> 01:09:01.700
And then there's a little bit of area here

01:09:01.700 --> 01:09:05.060
that's shown with the blue hatched overlay.

01:09:05.060 --> 01:09:08.020
And over here on this eastern wing,

01:09:08.020 --> 01:09:12.380
all of Canalesville is shown in that blue hatched overlay.

01:09:12.380 --> 01:09:14.820
What we've identified is that those are areas

01:09:14.820 --> 01:09:18.540
of the within the Canalesville obligation area

01:09:18.540 --> 01:09:20.940
that cannot be served by gravity sewer

01:09:20.940 --> 01:09:23.860
because the topography doesn't work out for it.

01:09:23.900 --> 01:09:26.100
They need to be served by a lift station.

01:09:26.100 --> 01:09:29.460
And in each case, that lift station needs to be located

01:09:29.460 --> 01:09:31.860
outside of Canalesville.

01:09:31.860 --> 01:09:35.980
So to accomplish the Canalesville projects,

01:09:35.980 --> 01:09:39.140
we have gravity sewer area planned projects.

01:09:39.140 --> 01:09:44.140
We can accomplish those within the 2027 timeframe.

01:09:44.580 --> 01:09:48.800
So again, that includes 26-1, water and sewer,

01:09:49.780 --> 01:09:53.220
26-2, which starts at that break point

01:09:53.220 --> 01:09:55.740
between gravity and lift station area.

01:09:55.740 --> 01:09:57.780
That'll be water main only.

01:09:57.780 --> 01:10:01.900
And then 27-2 is County Highway H

01:10:01.900 --> 01:10:05.020
that'll include water and sewer.

01:10:05.020 --> 01:10:07.900
The lift station projects are scheduled

01:10:07.900 --> 01:10:12.860
for construction start beyond 2027.

01:10:13.860 --> 01:10:15.340
That's strategic.

01:10:15.340 --> 01:10:17.900
And Rob has already been in conversation

01:10:17.900 --> 01:10:19.740
with the town chair about this.

01:10:19.780 --> 01:10:23.740
And so far, they're agreeable to granting an extension

01:10:23.740 --> 01:10:28.740
for that timeframe for these lift station area projects,

01:10:28.860 --> 01:10:30.660
just recognizing two things.

01:10:30.660 --> 01:10:34.180
One, lift stations take longer to construct.

01:10:34.180 --> 01:10:38.180
And two, we want to make sure that connections

01:10:38.180 --> 01:10:39.940
to that sewer are imminent

01:10:39.940 --> 01:10:42.140
before we go ahead and build that infrastructure.

01:10:42.140 --> 01:10:45.500
So we know that that'll be put into use right away.

01:10:46.500 --> 01:10:50.340
The next category of projects are the offsite

01:10:50.340 --> 01:10:51.740
TID improvements.

01:10:52.780 --> 01:10:55.860
These are categorized into sewer conveyance,

01:10:55.860 --> 01:10:59.860
to convey flows up here from the vantage project site

01:10:59.860 --> 01:11:02.340
all the way down to the wastewater treatment plant

01:11:02.340 --> 01:11:06.020
and will increase pipe capacity along the way.

01:11:06.020 --> 01:11:08.020
There are water distribution projects

01:11:08.020 --> 01:11:11.460
that will pump water from the low zone to the high zone

01:11:11.500 --> 01:11:16.500
and provide increased space for new equipment.

01:11:16.740 --> 01:11:18.900
Wastewater treatment plant planning

01:11:18.900 --> 01:11:20.940
and treatment plant site resiliency

01:11:20.940 --> 01:11:23.660
will get into each of these categories a little further.

01:11:24.660 --> 01:11:27.820
Sewer conveyance shown in this pink project

01:11:27.820 --> 01:11:31.220
are interceptor upsizing projects from Terrace Drive

01:11:31.220 --> 01:11:34.140
all the way down to the wastewater treatment plant.

01:11:34.140 --> 01:11:38.460
This is shown in three different bid packages, if you will.

01:11:38.460 --> 01:11:40.780
The delineation between the extents

01:11:40.780 --> 01:11:42.980
for each of those bid packages

01:11:42.980 --> 01:11:47.140
is being coordinated relative to detour routes

01:11:47.140 --> 01:11:49.420
and trying to, again, keep disruptions

01:11:49.420 --> 01:11:54.420
to one construction season for each kind of category of user

01:11:55.580 --> 01:11:58.580
that might be impacted, for example.

01:11:58.580 --> 01:12:01.020
Part of this will run through the inner urban trail.

01:12:01.020 --> 01:12:02.980
We want that portion to be completed

01:12:02.980 --> 01:12:05.340
all within one year.

01:12:05.340 --> 01:12:07.220
Same with Terrace Drive, we want to make sure

01:12:07.220 --> 01:12:09.020
that if that's going to be disturbed,

01:12:09.020 --> 01:12:10.900
it happens all within one year.

01:12:12.380 --> 01:12:15.820
Another capacity increase project is 28-1,

01:12:15.820 --> 01:12:20.460
which is to upsize the Jackson Street gravity sewer.

01:12:20.460 --> 01:12:22.460
Both of these projects help to convey

01:12:22.460 --> 01:12:25.260
what weather flows that the city experiences

01:12:25.260 --> 01:12:27.700
due to inflow and infiltration.

01:12:30.340 --> 01:12:32.220
Water distribution upgrades.

01:12:32.220 --> 01:12:35.460
This is a map of your existing distribution system,

01:12:35.460 --> 01:12:37.180
which has two pressure zones.

01:12:37.180 --> 01:12:40.820
The low zone shown in purple and the high zone shown in green.

01:12:42.180 --> 01:12:46.100
Most of the vantage and canalsville land

01:12:46.100 --> 01:12:51.100
is needed to be served by the high zone or the green area.

01:12:51.220 --> 01:12:55.020
Therefore, one of the recommended projects, 27-1,

01:12:55.020 --> 01:12:58.780
is a new consolidated booster station facility.

01:12:58.780 --> 01:13:01.140
We've talked about this at a past presentation,

01:13:01.140 --> 01:13:03.700
but this is a critical need project

01:13:03.700 --> 01:13:06.780
because currently here water gets from the low zone

01:13:06.780 --> 01:13:09.060
to the high zone in part through the Oakland

01:13:09.060 --> 01:13:11.420
and Sunset Booster stations.

01:13:11.420 --> 01:13:13.980
Those are both aged stations that are at the end

01:13:13.980 --> 01:13:18.100
of their useful life, and one of them has experienced a failure.

01:13:21.780 --> 01:13:24.260
Next, we have treatment plant planning.

01:13:24.260 --> 01:13:27.740
The map here shows the extent of the entire

01:13:29.420 --> 01:13:33.940
sewer conveyance and treatment plant planning area.

01:13:33.940 --> 01:13:37.420
The service area considered includes the vantage area,

01:13:37.420 --> 01:13:41.180
the canalsville area, and other growth that is planned

01:13:41.180 --> 01:13:42.020
by the city.

01:13:42.020 --> 01:13:45.100
You can see kind of some lighter hatched blue areas

01:13:45.100 --> 01:13:47.340
in the green and yellow areas

01:13:47.340 --> 01:13:50.180
kind of on the western border of the city.

01:13:50.180 --> 01:13:54.300
The facility plan will proactively forecast project needs,

01:13:54.300 --> 01:13:57.860
specifically at the wastewater treatment plant

01:13:57.860 --> 01:14:01.180
that will be associated with the service area.

01:14:01.220 --> 01:14:04.100
The sanitary sewer service area plan

01:14:04.100 --> 01:14:06.700
is actually a plan conducted by sewer pack,

01:14:06.700 --> 01:14:08.860
the planning agency themselves,

01:14:08.860 --> 01:14:11.380
and it establishes the service area relative

01:14:11.380 --> 01:14:13.100
to neighboring utilities.

01:14:13.100 --> 01:14:15.620
For example, there have already been meetings

01:14:15.620 --> 01:14:18.380
coordinating these lands and the delineation

01:14:18.380 --> 01:14:21.100
of what lands go to which communities

01:14:22.180 --> 01:14:24.620
wastewater treatment plant between sewer pack,

01:14:24.620 --> 01:14:26.660
Port Washington and Sockville.

01:14:27.580 --> 01:14:30.140
Related to the water treatment plant,

01:14:30.140 --> 01:14:32.100
as we've talked about at a past meeting,

01:14:32.100 --> 01:14:36.100
the existing capacity is adequate for existing usage,

01:14:36.100 --> 01:14:40.580
which is much less than their planning request so far.

01:14:42.140 --> 01:14:45.580
The next category is treatment plant site resiliency.

01:14:45.580 --> 01:14:48.180
Both the water treatment plant and wastewater treatment plant

01:14:48.180 --> 01:14:52.020
are on a common site at the lakefront.

01:14:52.020 --> 01:14:55.060
Just heard the presentation about Valley Creek restoration,

01:14:55.060 --> 01:14:59.060
and we're hoping that project starts in 2027.

01:14:59.060 --> 01:15:01.340
That helps to mitigate flooding risks

01:15:01.340 --> 01:15:03.260
at the water treatment plant site.

01:15:04.140 --> 01:15:08.460
Bluff stabilization is slated to start in 2028.

01:15:08.460 --> 01:15:11.380
The reasoning behind that is that

01:15:11.380 --> 01:15:14.140
the wastewater treatment plant facility plan,

01:15:14.140 --> 01:15:16.500
which is ongoing and expected to be completed

01:15:16.500 --> 01:15:18.820
by the end of this year,

01:15:18.820 --> 01:15:22.300
is expected to show a need to expand the footprint

01:15:22.300 --> 01:15:24.220
of the wastewater treatment plant.

01:15:24.220 --> 01:15:27.060
One of those options could impact the bluff,

01:15:27.060 --> 01:15:30.660
therefore we're kind of holding that off

01:15:30.660 --> 01:15:34.460
at least in the planning until after that facility plan.

01:15:34.460 --> 01:15:36.380
We understand there was a recent event there,

01:15:36.380 --> 01:15:37.900
and that might need to be coordinated

01:15:37.900 --> 01:15:40.140
or thought about a little bit differently,

01:15:40.140 --> 01:15:43.380
but that's how that project is phased at the present time.

01:15:45.900 --> 01:15:48.100
I'm not going to go through this line by line,

01:15:48.100 --> 01:15:50.940
but just wanna point out that in addition to the maps

01:15:50.940 --> 01:15:52.220
that we just went through,

01:15:52.220 --> 01:15:55.100
these projects are listed here in this index.

01:15:55.100 --> 01:15:57.380
They're color-coded according to the colors

01:15:57.380 --> 01:15:59.380
that were on the previous maps,

01:15:59.380 --> 01:16:02.540
and they're organized by construction start year,

01:16:02.540 --> 01:16:04.580
and then they're also broken down

01:16:04.580 --> 01:16:08.380
to a little bit more granular level, for example,

01:16:08.380 --> 01:16:13.300
kind of this ochre yellow or pumpkin yellow, if you will,

01:16:13.300 --> 01:16:16.580
is all 26-1, that's all one bid package,

01:16:16.580 --> 01:16:19.060
but these four different lines just kind of list

01:16:19.060 --> 01:16:21.340
the various areas and components

01:16:21.340 --> 01:16:23.220
that are involved in that project.

01:16:26.100 --> 01:16:30.700
Coordination with other city projects continues to be ongoing

01:16:30.700 --> 01:16:33.740
between the Kapoor strand and city staff team.

01:16:33.740 --> 01:16:36.780
We actually have a standing weekly meeting

01:16:36.780 --> 01:16:40.220
to talk about the coordination of these projects.

01:16:40.220 --> 01:16:45.060
We understand, like this plan may show you have an existing

01:16:45.060 --> 01:16:48.420
or proposed 10-year capital improvement plan,

01:16:48.420 --> 01:16:50.300
and we will continue to work to coordinate

01:16:50.300 --> 01:16:51.760
those projects together.

01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:56.360
In summary, this presentation provides background

01:16:56.360 --> 01:16:59.840
for specific forthcoming project plans and decisions.

01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:02.240
It represents approximately $100 million

01:17:02.240 --> 01:17:07.120
of city-led TID projects that are planned in the next five years.

01:17:07.120 --> 01:17:09.800
Financing is by the developer.

01:17:09.800 --> 01:17:13.240
Extensive coordination is ongoing between projects,

01:17:13.240 --> 01:17:15.000
governments and departments,

01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:19.560
and forthcoming with the community and organizations.

01:17:19.800 --> 01:17:23.200
This overall plan will be revised as projects progress,

01:17:23.200 --> 01:17:26.840
but we hope that this gives you some background

01:17:26.840 --> 01:17:30.400
when future items are brought before Public Works Committee

01:17:30.400 --> 01:17:32.440
or Council for specific action.

01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:36.800
With that, we'll open it up for any questions.

01:17:41.040 --> 01:17:41.880
Any questions?

01:17:43.280 --> 01:17:44.560
This one small one.

01:17:44.560 --> 01:17:47.760
So we don't anticipate people in Canalesville

01:17:47.760 --> 01:17:51.680
to be able to have water until 2030.

01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:55.960
That's a great clarifying question.

01:17:55.960 --> 01:17:58.360
Let me just get back there.

01:17:58.360 --> 01:18:00.800
So this map shows those projects.

01:18:03.480 --> 01:18:06.680
I call this the Western Canalesville area,

01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:12.680
and they will, water main will be installed

01:18:13.120 --> 01:18:16.960
by the end of next year in all of the Western portion.

01:18:17.840 --> 01:18:21.880
Water mains over here are likely to not be installed

01:18:21.880 --> 01:18:24.920
until 2028 or 2029.

01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:28.240
So when you say water, does that also include the sewer?

01:18:28.240 --> 01:18:30.880
Gravity sewer over here,

01:18:30.880 --> 01:18:33.880
kind of from this point south,

01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:36.400
will be available to all of these properties

01:18:36.400 --> 01:18:38.800
by the end of 2027.

01:18:38.800 --> 01:18:41.480
And we hope, you know, construction

01:18:41.480 --> 01:18:44.480
on those projects start in this year.

01:18:45.480 --> 01:18:49.480
Over here, water and sewer will likely not be,

01:18:49.480 --> 01:18:51.840
water may be available sooner,

01:18:51.840 --> 01:18:55.960
but sewer won't be available until 2029 or 2030.

01:18:55.960 --> 01:18:56.800
Thank you.

01:18:58.080 --> 01:19:01.200
So with the area of water,

01:19:01.200 --> 01:19:06.200
it's gonna be constructed up KW and then Easton Lake.

01:19:06.200 --> 01:19:08.080
That's, I presume it's gonna connect

01:19:08.080 --> 01:19:10.920
into Vantage's line through their parcel,

01:19:10.920 --> 01:19:13.880
effectively creating a loop there.

01:19:15.480 --> 01:19:19.120
I'm using with a mile of private.

01:19:19.120 --> 01:19:23.640
Okay, so we are providing them these two points

01:19:23.640 --> 01:19:26.680
of connections and they will have a water main,

01:19:26.680 --> 01:19:29.920
I'm gonna call it a backbone that goes through their site

01:19:29.920 --> 01:19:32.320
and loops around each of their buildings.

01:19:32.320 --> 01:19:34.560
However, that water main will be private

01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:38.160
and DNR code dictates that once water

01:19:38.160 --> 01:19:40.320
leaves the public utility system

01:19:40.320 --> 01:19:42.480
and goes into a private system,

01:19:42.520 --> 01:19:44.920
it cannot come back into a public system.

01:19:44.920 --> 01:19:47.000
You kind of lose gene acoustity,

01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.640
control over the water quality and what happens to that.

01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:54.240
So from the standpoint of the Vantage system,

01:19:54.240 --> 01:19:56.040
the water will be looped,

01:19:56.040 --> 01:19:57.840
meaning it can flow into their site

01:19:57.840 --> 01:19:59.560
from multiple directions,

01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:01.840
but each of these points of connections

01:20:01.840 --> 01:20:03.760
will have check valves

01:20:03.760 --> 01:20:06.000
or essentially backflow preventers

01:20:06.000 --> 01:20:07.920
that won't let that water come back.

01:20:08.840 --> 01:20:11.800
So I know that answers your question, hopefully,

01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.800
but it also sets the table for the need

01:20:14.800 --> 01:20:17.320
to go ahead and complete the public loop

01:20:17.320 --> 01:20:19.040
kind of around the eastern side

01:20:19.040 --> 01:20:20.560
and come back here to the north.

01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:24.360
Okay, are we meter, you might not notice on it,

01:20:24.360 --> 01:20:26.360
are we metering their water usage

01:20:26.360 --> 01:20:28.280
then right at those points?

01:20:28.280 --> 01:20:29.640
Yes, great question.

01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.360
And the answer is yes, yes we are.

01:20:32.360 --> 01:20:36.680
We have kind of been working through a design

01:20:36.680 --> 01:20:41.680
that has a smaller meter for their normal or typical use

01:20:41.680 --> 01:20:44.520
and a large meter so that as they flush

01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:46.520
their hydrants on site, et cetera,

01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:50.680
that will all be metered, sold revenue water

01:20:50.680 --> 01:20:51.760
for the utility.

01:20:51.760 --> 01:20:52.760
Okay, thank you.

01:20:54.200 --> 01:20:55.040
Any other?

01:20:55.040 --> 01:20:56.280
I just follow up.

01:20:56.280 --> 01:20:59.240
So, and because I'm not a plumber.

01:20:59.240 --> 01:21:03.480
So, okay, so the water is being metered at those two sites,

01:21:03.480 --> 01:21:07.960
but when the sewer that's coming back out of there,

01:21:07.960 --> 01:21:09.960
that's part of a different plan

01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.640
that are not part of the loop.

01:21:12.640 --> 01:21:15.760
So, it can flow back, the wastewater

01:21:15.760 --> 01:21:17.680
can be flow back easily.

01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:19.680
And that's also metered somehow.

01:21:19.680 --> 01:21:22.080
Well, I will explain a little bit further

01:21:22.080 --> 01:21:23.320
how the sewer works.

01:21:23.320 --> 01:21:25.440
That's a great line of questioning.

01:21:25.440 --> 01:21:30.440
So, the sewer will flow generally as the lay of the land does.

01:21:31.000 --> 01:21:33.920
So, while the water, which is pressurized,

01:21:33.920 --> 01:21:35.920
we can push that up to this northern point

01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:38.000
of connection, et cetera.

01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:40.200
The sewer will wanna flow by gravity

01:21:40.200 --> 01:21:42.920
just from north to south through the site.

01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:46.720
And it's all planned to come back to the southern blue star.

01:21:46.720 --> 01:21:49.840
At that point, we actually have a metering manhole

01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:53.320
for the sewer and plans to put in a sewer meter.

01:21:53.320 --> 01:21:57.160
So, just like any other typical customer in the city,

01:21:57.160 --> 01:22:00.120
the sanitary billing will initially be set up

01:22:00.120 --> 01:22:04.800
that whatever drinking water goes through the water meter,

01:22:04.800 --> 01:22:08.440
they'll be set up to be billed the same volume of water

01:22:08.440 --> 01:22:11.400
as sewer getting returned.

01:22:11.400 --> 01:22:15.200
But knowing that this is a very large area

01:22:15.200 --> 01:22:18.560
and they could have inflow and infiltration of their own,

01:22:18.560 --> 01:22:21.400
we have a separate sewer metering manhole

01:22:21.400 --> 01:22:25.400
so that the utility every billing cycle can kind of see

01:22:26.720 --> 01:22:30.320
if there's any excessive flows that need to be billed

01:22:30.320 --> 01:22:32.920
that are beyond that metered water usage.

01:22:33.800 --> 01:22:36.080
And once it's on, the loop is completed

01:22:36.080 --> 01:22:39.680
with those be removed or would they be,

01:22:39.680 --> 01:22:43.040
because they're the only property owner in that area

01:22:43.040 --> 01:22:44.640
or will it remain the same?

01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:48.160
Those meters will stay the same at the point of connection.

01:22:48.160 --> 01:22:51.000
So there'll be two water meters, one at each star

01:22:51.000 --> 01:22:54.200
and then their sewer meter will be just downhill.

01:22:54.200 --> 01:22:55.880
I'm sorry, yes, downhill,

01:22:55.880 --> 01:22:59.560
but just down here at this southern star.

01:23:00.920 --> 01:23:02.800
It's important to keep those meters

01:23:02.800 --> 01:23:05.800
there because as the loop is completed,

01:23:05.800 --> 01:23:08.560
that's a public loop and that gets into some

01:23:08.560 --> 01:23:11.520
of the adjacent Canalsville areas

01:23:11.520 --> 01:23:13.720
and the green areas here where,

01:23:15.240 --> 01:23:18.120
typical best practice for planning

01:23:18.120 --> 01:23:21.880
is to just look at growth over the next 20 years,

01:23:21.880 --> 01:23:25.480
but these pipes will have a useful life of 80 to 100 years

01:23:25.480 --> 01:23:27.200
and potentially even longer.

01:23:27.200 --> 01:23:30.360
So that's why sewer pack wanted to look at

01:23:30.360 --> 01:23:32.160
these green areas to just say,

01:23:32.200 --> 01:23:33.960
okay, but at some point,

01:23:33.960 --> 01:23:35.400
even if it's way in the future,

01:23:35.400 --> 01:23:37.800
there could be other connections there.

01:23:37.800 --> 01:23:41.720
So those would each be metered separately at that time.

01:23:44.760 --> 01:23:47.080
Okay, this is more of a policy question

01:23:47.080 --> 01:23:50.600
that may not have been any discussion on it yet,

01:23:50.600 --> 01:23:53.360
but so we're providing sewer and water

01:23:53.360 --> 01:23:54.440
to the Canalsville area,

01:23:54.440 --> 01:23:57.480
which is forever Canalsville in the town of Port.

01:23:57.480 --> 01:24:01.800
So we're running up KW, further north than Canalsville.

01:24:01.800 --> 01:24:05.040
So as we have utilities available there,

01:24:05.040 --> 01:24:08.560
if somebody in there wants to connect to it,

01:24:08.560 --> 01:24:11.320
typically if someone wants to connect to city of sewer

01:24:11.320 --> 01:24:13.480
and water, we would force them to become annexed

01:24:13.480 --> 01:24:14.800
into the city.

01:24:14.800 --> 01:24:17.400
Have we done any internal discussions

01:24:17.400 --> 01:24:20.680
as to what type of policy we should be considering

01:24:20.680 --> 01:24:24.200
in that area outside of the Canalsville area?

01:24:24.200 --> 01:24:25.520
If somebody wants connection?

01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:27.920
I believe that your very own Rob

01:24:27.920 --> 01:24:30.240
is uniquely suited to answer that question.

01:24:30.240 --> 01:24:34.920
I thought you were going to answer it,

01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:37.000
and I was waiting to see what you said.

01:24:37.000 --> 01:24:42.360
No, yeah, so our policy that we tend to impose

01:24:42.360 --> 01:24:43.680
would be the same as we always do.

01:24:43.680 --> 01:24:46.080
So anyone outside of the Canalsville area

01:24:46.080 --> 01:24:49.280
would need to be annexed into the city

01:24:49.280 --> 01:24:51.600
prior to receiving sewer and water.

01:24:51.600 --> 01:24:53.520
We have made arrangements in the past

01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:55.280
to provide those services,

01:24:55.280 --> 01:24:58.720
but there's always an annexation agreement

01:24:58.760 --> 01:25:02.840
that executed where in those cases

01:25:02.840 --> 01:25:04.520
where they cannot annex,

01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:08.280
that they would annex upon the ability to annex.

01:25:08.280 --> 01:25:13.040
So ultimately, the simple answer to your question is yes,

01:25:13.040 --> 01:25:14.360
they would be required to annex

01:25:14.360 --> 01:25:15.920
in order to receive sewer and water.

01:25:15.920 --> 01:25:18.000
Okay, yeah, my concern's not so much

01:25:18.000 --> 01:25:20.880
with an existing home that wants to connect to it,

01:25:20.880 --> 01:25:23.440
but I don't think outside of Canalsville,

01:25:23.440 --> 01:25:25.720
we want to encourage someone to build a subdivision

01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:27.480
that we're not going to annex.

01:25:27.480 --> 01:25:29.600
All right, no, definitely not.

01:25:29.600 --> 01:25:30.680
Okay, thank you.

01:25:31.680 --> 01:25:33.960
Any other questions, comments?

01:25:35.160 --> 01:25:39.440
All right, there's no action on this, I don't believe so.

01:25:39.440 --> 01:25:40.280
Thank you.

01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:45.040
That'll bring us in onto item seven.

01:25:45.040 --> 01:25:49.280
Presentation on 2025, 26, snow and ice control.

01:25:49.280 --> 01:25:50.120
Yes, thank you.

01:25:50.120 --> 01:25:51.560
Yes, thank you very much.

01:25:57.480 --> 01:25:58.320
Okay.

01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:08.040
I'll quick do an intro of this too.

01:26:08.040 --> 01:26:13.040
Just I asked JD to make this presentation again this year.

01:26:13.040 --> 01:26:14.720
We made it last year,

01:26:14.720 --> 01:26:17.320
and that's where my memory stops.

01:26:17.320 --> 01:26:19.640
I don't know if we've done it prior to that,

01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:22.720
but I'm asked him to do this

01:26:22.720 --> 01:26:26.080
because I'm very proud of where JD has taken

01:26:26.080 --> 01:26:31.080
our snow and ice control over the last five years.

01:26:34.200 --> 01:26:38.000
It's something that has been important to me for many years.

01:26:38.000 --> 01:26:41.400
I think JD has certainly taken us to the next level again

01:26:41.400 --> 01:26:45.040
and snow and ice control and probably the main,

01:26:45.040 --> 01:26:47.440
well, two main takeaways I guess I'd start with

01:26:47.440 --> 01:26:49.720
is one, if you want to see our policy,

01:26:49.720 --> 01:26:54.360
it's on the website under the street department page.

01:26:54.360 --> 01:26:56.720
You can read all about the way we plow

01:26:56.720 --> 01:27:00.400
and apply salt and brine.

01:27:01.840 --> 01:27:04.920
But I think a main takeaway you're going to have out of this

01:27:04.920 --> 01:27:08.720
is just the way we have reduced our salt usage,

01:27:08.720 --> 01:27:13.240
which not only saves money for the city

01:27:13.240 --> 01:27:16.640
and is just as effective as the old way,

01:27:16.640 --> 01:27:19.480
which was applying really more salt

01:27:19.480 --> 01:27:21.800
than I think was necessary to get the job done.

01:27:22.760 --> 01:27:27.760
But I think there's a shift in our street department

01:27:28.360 --> 01:27:31.080
of a real concern for the environment.

01:27:31.080 --> 01:27:36.160
Not that other guys didn't care about the environment.

01:27:36.160 --> 01:27:39.080
I just think there's a greater level of awareness.

01:27:39.080 --> 01:27:43.920
And I also think technology and standard operations

01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:47.160
have changed in the industry.

01:27:47.160 --> 01:27:52.160
And so we've been able to really emphasize the importance

01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:58.040
of reducing the impact on stormwater runoff.

01:27:58.040 --> 01:28:00.560
So water is important to everyone.

01:28:00.560 --> 01:28:02.400
I like to think it's a little more important to us

01:28:02.400 --> 01:28:04.840
in Port Washington because of our connection to the lake

01:28:04.840 --> 01:28:06.000
and our streams.

01:28:06.000 --> 01:28:08.920
And so with that, I'll let JD take it away.

01:28:10.400 --> 01:28:12.080
All right, thank you.

01:28:12.080 --> 01:28:15.560
So just to kind of start off just a quick overview

01:28:15.560 --> 01:28:17.920
and kind of how I want to present this.

01:28:17.920 --> 01:28:19.800
If you had this presentation last year,

01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:22.280
it's a little bit similar, but things do change year to year.

01:28:22.280 --> 01:28:24.240
So there will be some changes.

01:28:24.240 --> 01:28:25.520
So the first thing is we kind of go over

01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:28.240
like the snow and ice policy, which Rob said

01:28:28.240 --> 01:28:29.680
is on the city website.

01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:31.920
And then kind of talk about some of the strategies

01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:33.800
and decision making that we do,

01:28:33.800 --> 01:28:37.080
talk about equipment and new technology that we implement

01:28:37.080 --> 01:28:39.040
and then last kind of go over the results

01:28:39.040 --> 01:28:40.920
of all three of those things.

01:28:40.920 --> 01:28:44.000
So the first thing kind of the backbone of our operation

01:28:44.000 --> 01:28:46.400
is our snow and ice policy.

01:28:46.400 --> 01:28:49.400
Again, if you're interested, it's on the city website.

01:28:49.400 --> 01:28:51.200
It's a really good resource.

01:28:51.200 --> 01:28:53.600
It kind of will answer any question you have

01:28:55.160 --> 01:28:58.080
going from, you know, like what routes we have,

01:28:58.080 --> 01:29:02.240
how many employees we have that get involved

01:29:02.240 --> 01:29:04.920
with snow and ice to, if we hit your mailbox,

01:29:04.920 --> 01:29:06.120
what's the city's policy?

01:29:06.120 --> 01:29:08.040
So there's a lot of good information in there.

01:29:08.040 --> 01:29:10.800
And that's again, the backbone of why we do everything.

01:29:11.800 --> 01:29:14.600
So like the one thing that I want to highlight out of it

01:29:14.600 --> 01:29:17.440
is kind of the executive summary in the background.

01:29:17.440 --> 01:29:18.480
I'm not gonna read the whole thing,

01:29:18.480 --> 01:29:20.520
but the first part's important.

01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:23.320
So the city's poor Washington snow and ice policy

01:29:23.320 --> 01:29:25.680
is focused on delivering a service

01:29:25.680 --> 01:29:27.800
that is designed for safe travel in winter months,

01:29:27.800 --> 01:29:31.240
but is also environmentally friendly and cost effective.

01:29:31.240 --> 01:29:34.080
So those are really our goals when it comes to snow and ice,

01:29:34.080 --> 01:29:36.840
making it safe for pedestrians,

01:29:36.840 --> 01:29:39.560
whether it's on foot or vehicle,

01:29:39.560 --> 01:29:42.920
being environmentally conscious and then cost effective.

01:29:42.920 --> 01:29:46.440
But we're gonna do that through best management practices,

01:29:46.440 --> 01:29:49.800
which we're gonna talk about over the next couple of slides.

01:29:49.800 --> 01:29:52.320
And then again, the environmental impact,

01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:56.000
like Rob stated, water is very important here.

01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:57.400
We live on Lake Michigan.

01:30:00.640 --> 01:30:01.920
You're not gonna shut it off.

01:30:01.920 --> 01:30:04.000
That's okay.

01:30:04.000 --> 01:30:04.840
It's okay.

01:30:04.840 --> 01:30:09.840
So is the environmental impact?

01:30:09.840 --> 01:30:12.440
So salt is a permanent pollutant.

01:30:12.440 --> 01:30:14.320
So anything that we put down eventually

01:30:14.320 --> 01:30:15.960
is gonna make it into our catch basins,

01:30:15.960 --> 01:30:18.520
which is eventually gonna make it into our storm water,

01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:20.360
which is eventually gonna make it into Lake Michigan.

01:30:20.360 --> 01:30:22.080
And that permanent pollutant is something

01:30:22.080 --> 01:30:23.360
we can never take out of it.

01:30:23.360 --> 01:30:24.840
And where do we get our drinking water?

01:30:24.840 --> 01:30:25.720
Lake Michigan.

01:30:28.600 --> 01:30:29.600
So some of the objectives,

01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:32.160
so like why do we go out for snow and ice?

01:30:32.160 --> 01:30:34.400
So the first one is kind of like during the storm,

01:30:34.400 --> 01:30:38.200
we wanna minimize hazards for pedestrians and motorists.

01:30:38.200 --> 01:30:40.480
We wanna do our best while it's snowing

01:30:40.480 --> 01:30:42.880
to make roads passable.

01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:44.280
Depending on intensity to the storm,

01:30:44.280 --> 01:30:47.720
that can be pretty simple or that can be very complex.

01:30:47.720 --> 01:30:51.160
And then the next one is once the storm is over,

01:30:51.160 --> 01:30:53.080
we wanna restore conditions

01:30:54.880 --> 01:30:56.640
to the general public as soon as possible.

01:30:56.640 --> 01:30:58.680
So if it's done snowing at midnight,

01:30:58.680 --> 01:31:00.040
we're coming in at three o'clock.

01:31:00.040 --> 01:31:01.600
And by the time most people get up

01:31:01.600 --> 01:31:03.480
and go to school or go to work,

01:31:03.480 --> 01:31:05.520
the roads are in good order.

01:31:05.520 --> 01:31:08.440
And then last is provide a level of service

01:31:08.440 --> 01:31:11.060
that is fiscally and environmentally responsible.

01:31:13.120 --> 01:31:15.600
So one of the big changes that we made

01:31:15.600 --> 01:31:18.280
is kind of coming up with like a level of service

01:31:18.280 --> 01:31:19.840
and determining classes of roads.

01:31:19.840 --> 01:31:21.280
So like when we go out,

01:31:21.280 --> 01:31:22.680
especially like during a storm,

01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:24.680
like we have our priorities.

01:31:24.680 --> 01:31:27.920
So the main classes of roads are the first one

01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:28.720
are like the mains,

01:31:28.720 --> 01:31:31.520
which is essentially highway 32 and highway 33.

01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:34.200
So Grand Avenue, Spring Street, North Wisconsin,

01:31:34.200 --> 01:31:35.200
those are our mains.

01:31:35.200 --> 01:31:38.800
And we include in that the hills downtown.

01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:40.840
So South Wisconsin,

01:31:40.840 --> 01:31:43.680
Van Buren, Webster, Washington, Milwaukee,

01:31:43.680 --> 01:31:46.120
because of the steep grades that they're on

01:31:46.120 --> 01:31:48.800
and where they are, things can get ugly pretty quick.

01:31:48.800 --> 01:31:51.320
So those are included with the mains.

01:31:51.320 --> 01:31:53.760
The next are collectors.

01:31:53.760 --> 01:31:55.240
So those are like Port View,

01:31:55.240 --> 01:31:58.480
Holden, Northport, Hales Trails,

01:31:58.480 --> 01:32:00.520
kind of like medium sized traffic.

01:32:00.520 --> 01:32:03.080
And then last is like your residential roads,

01:32:03.080 --> 01:32:07.040
which is pretty much, you know, low volume stop signs,

01:32:07.040 --> 01:32:08.440
pretty much the people and your neighbors

01:32:08.440 --> 01:32:11.360
are the ones that are driving on those roads.

01:32:11.360 --> 01:32:13.480
So now what kind of level of service do we give those?

01:32:13.480 --> 01:32:16.080
So the mains and collectors are gonna be our top priority.

01:32:16.080 --> 01:32:18.160
And especially like during a storm,

01:32:18.160 --> 01:32:20.080
that's typically where you're gonna see our trucks.

01:32:20.080 --> 01:32:22.160
We're not really worried about residential streets

01:32:22.160 --> 01:32:24.560
until we get a considerable amount of snow

01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:27.640
or it's done plowing and these roads are taken care of.

01:32:27.640 --> 01:32:30.000
So having that focus on the mains and collectors

01:32:30.000 --> 01:32:32.360
and then residential streets kind of as a secondary,

01:32:32.360 --> 01:32:34.040
but then also the way we treat that.

01:32:34.040 --> 01:32:37.240
So mains and collectors are plowed curb to curb

01:32:37.240 --> 01:32:39.640
and those are salted at their entire length.

01:32:39.640 --> 01:32:42.560
Residential streets are plowed, also plowed curb to curb,

01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:46.280
but those are only salted at Hales, Curves and Intersections.

01:32:46.280 --> 01:32:49.760
So just that simple policy is reducing the amount

01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:51.120
of salt you're putting down.

01:32:51.120 --> 01:32:53.320
We're not salting everything.

01:32:53.320 --> 01:32:56.540
That used to be what we did when I first started.

01:32:56.540 --> 01:32:57.380
Why?

01:32:57.380 --> 01:32:58.220
Cause it's easy.

01:32:58.220 --> 01:32:59.060
You don't have to train people.

01:32:59.360 --> 01:33:01.760
Just tell them after a storm, you salt everything.

01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:02.760
This takes training.

01:33:02.760 --> 01:33:06.240
It gets guys to understand the classifications of roads,

01:33:06.240 --> 01:33:09.440
but just simply not salting every lane mile

01:33:09.440 --> 01:33:11.120
is gonna reduce salt usage.

01:33:13.920 --> 01:33:17.040
So these are some of the snowy ice control procedures

01:33:17.040 --> 01:33:18.360
that we use.

01:33:18.360 --> 01:33:19.680
So like anti-icing.

01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:21.960
So that's like before a storm, we go out

01:33:21.960 --> 01:33:23.960
and it's typically on the mains, hills and collectors

01:33:23.960 --> 01:33:26.000
that we focus on, but we'll spray the roads.

01:33:26.000 --> 01:33:27.840
So that's where you see the white lines.

01:33:27.860 --> 01:33:30.100
Really, all that's doing is preventing snow

01:33:30.100 --> 01:33:32.020
and ice from bonding to the pavement.

01:33:32.020 --> 01:33:34.020
So you're gonna melt a little bit of snow,

01:33:34.020 --> 01:33:36.120
but really what that's doing is gonna give you better traction.

01:33:36.120 --> 01:33:38.820
It's not allowing like an ice to form or a hard pack.

01:33:38.820 --> 01:33:40.020
So you're gonna get better traction,

01:33:40.020 --> 01:33:42.780
but more importantly, once we start to scrape,

01:33:42.780 --> 01:33:44.340
you're gonna get a clean scrape,

01:33:44.340 --> 01:33:46.700
which means you're salting less.

01:33:46.700 --> 01:33:48.780
The next one is plowing.

01:33:48.780 --> 01:33:50.740
I think that's probably the easiest one

01:33:50.740 --> 01:33:51.700
and the one you see the most,

01:33:51.700 --> 01:33:54.740
but that's the mechanical removal of snow.

01:33:54.740 --> 01:33:57.580
It's the most efficient way to remove snow

01:33:57.600 --> 01:34:00.640
and it's also the one that's gonna give you

01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:03.000
the greatest reduction in salt.

01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:04.480
And a lot of people will see us

01:34:04.480 --> 01:34:07.800
we're out plowing like an inch of snow.

01:34:07.800 --> 01:34:09.880
Those are our biggest salt savers

01:34:09.880 --> 01:34:12.080
rather than going out and just trying to melt

01:34:12.080 --> 01:34:14.400
that amount of snow by being able to plow it

01:34:14.400 --> 01:34:15.720
and then minimizing your salt.

01:34:15.720 --> 01:34:18.120
That's our greatest reduction in salt usage.

01:34:20.160 --> 01:34:21.560
The next term is just deicing.

01:34:21.560 --> 01:34:24.800
So that's like during a storm, us putting salt down

01:34:24.900 --> 01:34:27.780
on top of snow to try to create a brine,

01:34:27.780 --> 01:34:30.340
which enables us to remove snow more easily.

01:34:30.340 --> 01:34:31.700
And then last is pre-wetting.

01:34:31.700 --> 01:34:36.700
And that's just us applying liquid at the spinner,

01:34:36.700 --> 01:34:38.820
which activates salt, salt needs moisture.

01:34:38.820 --> 01:34:39.980
So by adding a liquid to it,

01:34:39.980 --> 01:34:41.340
you're activating the salt faster

01:34:41.340 --> 01:34:43.540
and it also reduces scatter,

01:34:43.540 --> 01:34:45.220
which means more your salt ends up

01:34:45.220 --> 01:34:46.180
in the middle of the road,

01:34:46.180 --> 01:34:48.940
rather than in the curb line where you don't need it.

01:34:51.700 --> 01:34:53.940
So liquids, that's a big part of what we do.

01:34:53.960 --> 01:34:55.560
This has become really popular,

01:34:55.560 --> 01:34:57.120
I'd say over the last like 10 years,

01:34:57.120 --> 01:34:59.440
but especially the last five years.

01:34:59.440 --> 01:35:01.480
So we use two different types of liquids.

01:35:01.480 --> 01:35:03.440
The first one is salt brine.

01:35:03.440 --> 01:35:04.680
We use that when the road temperatures

01:35:04.680 --> 01:35:06.240
are above 23 degrees.

01:35:07.200 --> 01:35:08.560
Air temperatures are important,

01:35:08.560 --> 01:35:11.880
but to us pavement temperatures are what's most important.

01:35:11.880 --> 01:35:13.080
So that's what we go by.

01:35:13.080 --> 01:35:16.080
We have road temperature sensors in our trucks.

01:35:16.080 --> 01:35:18.120
So salt brine, all it is a salt and water

01:35:18.120 --> 01:35:19.800
mixed at a certain ratio.

01:35:19.800 --> 01:35:21.040
We get it from the County.

01:35:21.900 --> 01:35:25.260
And then the next one is a beat heat mix.

01:35:25.260 --> 01:35:30.100
So we use this one road temps are lower than 23 degrees.

01:35:30.100 --> 01:35:32.580
It's a mixture of a 30% beat heat.

01:35:32.580 --> 01:35:34.420
So we get it at full concentrate.

01:35:34.420 --> 01:35:36.140
So we mix it ourselves.

01:35:36.140 --> 01:35:40.060
So it's a 30% beat heat and 70% salt brine.

01:35:40.060 --> 01:35:42.660
And what this does is it increases the melting capacity,

01:35:42.660 --> 01:35:45.100
but it also can use it in lower temperatures.

01:35:46.100 --> 01:35:47.660
When temperatures get low,

01:35:47.660 --> 01:35:49.460
salt doesn't work nearly as effective.

01:35:49.480 --> 01:35:52.240
So you have to add a deicer to it,

01:35:52.240 --> 01:35:54.000
which is a beat heat mix.

01:35:54.000 --> 01:35:57.120
And really all it is, it's a liquid deicer.

01:35:57.120 --> 01:35:59.080
It uses refined beat molasses.

01:35:59.080 --> 01:36:00.640
That's where it gets its name.

01:36:00.640 --> 01:36:03.760
But it also has carbohydrates and chlorides,

01:36:03.760 --> 01:36:05.400
which help melt ice.

01:36:05.400 --> 01:36:07.080
It's a more environmentally friendly

01:36:07.080 --> 01:36:10.120
due to biodegradability and lower corrosion rate.

01:36:10.120 --> 01:36:13.220
So we tend to use this rather than like a straight

01:36:13.220 --> 01:36:15.040
calcium chloride.

01:36:15.040 --> 01:36:17.840
That's very corrosive, a straight calcium chloride.

01:36:17.860 --> 01:36:19.540
It's cheap, but it's very corrosive

01:36:19.540 --> 01:36:21.260
and it's susceptible to re-freezing.

01:36:21.260 --> 01:36:24.220
So we go with a, it'll be pay a little bit more,

01:36:24.220 --> 01:36:25.940
but we found it's worked very good.

01:36:25.940 --> 01:36:27.500
And it's a lot less corrosive.

01:36:30.660 --> 01:36:32.340
So this is our liquid storage.

01:36:32.340 --> 01:36:34.100
This is at our shed.

01:36:34.100 --> 01:36:36.500
So the two tanks on the left,

01:36:36.500 --> 01:36:38.220
those are both 5,000 gallon tanks.

01:36:38.220 --> 01:36:40.140
Those are salt brine.

01:36:40.140 --> 01:36:42.260
And then the smaller tank, the third tank

01:36:42.260 --> 01:36:45.540
is a 3000 gallon tank that we get delivered straight

01:36:46.080 --> 01:36:49.160
and then the one furthest to the right is the mix.

01:36:49.160 --> 01:36:51.600
So we can use a brine in the straight,

01:36:51.600 --> 01:36:54.160
the short tank to make our mix on the right.

01:36:57.160 --> 01:36:59.880
So this is one of our anti-aging trucks.

01:36:59.880 --> 01:37:01.320
So this is a truck that you'd see all

01:37:01.320 --> 01:37:04.480
kind of before a storm put in the stripes down.

01:37:04.480 --> 01:37:07.280
Our new tandem that we got this year

01:37:07.280 --> 01:37:08.840
also has the capability of that.

01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:11.200
So now we can send out two trucks before a storm.

01:37:11.200 --> 01:37:13.280
So we do a little bit more lane mileage.

01:37:16.540 --> 01:37:18.760
And as far as liquid,

01:37:18.760 --> 01:37:21.240
so you can see the trucks on the left.

01:37:21.240 --> 01:37:24.400
If you look on the back of the truck on the tailgates,

01:37:24.400 --> 01:37:26.880
those are 150 gallon tanks.

01:37:26.880 --> 01:37:30.480
So we bought those in 2021

01:37:30.480 --> 01:37:33.120
and retrofitted trucks that we already had.

01:37:33.120 --> 01:37:36.400
So this kind of got us into the liquid game

01:37:36.400 --> 01:37:39.760
by putting those trucks, those tanks on the trucks.

01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:43.080
And that's used to treat the salt at the spinner.

01:37:43.100 --> 01:37:46.860
Again, kind of activating that salt faster.

01:37:46.860 --> 01:37:49.220
And then the newer trucks that we've built since

01:37:49.220 --> 01:37:52.020
actually have the tanks right behind the cab.

01:37:52.020 --> 01:37:54.140
The benefit of that is you don't have to take them off.

01:37:54.140 --> 01:37:55.860
So if we have the haul snow in winter,

01:37:55.860 --> 01:37:57.620
we're not having to take like the tanks

01:37:57.620 --> 01:37:59.660
off the back of the tailgate to dump.

01:37:59.660 --> 01:38:02.300
So those tanks are staying the trucks all year.

01:38:05.060 --> 01:38:06.540
Plow routes.

01:38:06.540 --> 01:38:11.540
So when we do full-scale plowing, we have 14 employees.

01:38:12.080 --> 01:38:14.520
So myself and then nine full-time guys

01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:18.080
at the street department, three park and rec employees,

01:38:18.080 --> 01:38:21.080
and then one employee at the water utility.

01:38:22.120 --> 01:38:24.280
So on the roads, we have 11 routes.

01:38:24.280 --> 01:38:27.000
We have six five-yard single axle dump trucks,

01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:28.280
two tandems.

01:38:28.280 --> 01:38:33.280
Those are all equipped with front plows, wings,

01:38:33.280 --> 01:38:34.760
salters and liquid.

01:38:36.200 --> 01:38:37.840
Five years ago, we had four salters.

01:38:37.840 --> 01:38:39.360
Now we have eight salters.

01:38:39.380 --> 01:38:41.860
It makes a big difference after a storm,

01:38:41.860 --> 01:38:45.420
getting the salt down quicker and kind of restoring roads.

01:38:45.420 --> 01:38:47.940
And then we also have three loaders.

01:38:47.940 --> 01:38:51.140
Those do a lot of like cul-de-sacs, dead ends.

01:38:51.140 --> 01:38:52.860
And that's the only thing that after a storm,

01:38:52.860 --> 01:38:56.100
now it has to get salted are those loader routes.

01:38:56.100 --> 01:38:57.940
We also have two alley routes.

01:38:57.940 --> 01:38:59.220
We do those with a pickup truck.

01:38:59.220 --> 01:39:02.420
And then we actually have a tractor with a front plow.

01:39:02.420 --> 01:39:04.380
And then we have three sidewalk routes

01:39:04.380 --> 01:39:07.580
that we do with compact equipment and then parking lots.

01:39:07.600 --> 01:39:10.800
So all together, we have 16 routes, 14 guys.

01:39:10.800 --> 01:39:13.720
So after we're done plowing,

01:39:13.720 --> 01:39:16.760
park and rec employees will take care of sidewalks.

01:39:16.760 --> 01:39:19.000
So that's kind of the way till everything is done.

01:39:19.000 --> 01:39:21.400
And then we go out on sidewalks.

01:39:21.400 --> 01:39:23.160
Let's talk a little bit about growth.

01:39:23.160 --> 01:39:25.560
So over the last like six years,

01:39:25.560 --> 01:39:29.560
we've had like 2.6 miles of additional growth.

01:39:32.080 --> 01:39:36.720
So that's actually 5.2 miles of plowing for lane miles.

01:39:36.740 --> 01:39:39.700
So that's Farmview, Sex Engine, Newport, Vista,

01:39:39.700 --> 01:39:42.560
Highland Point, Greystone, Joseph Court,

01:39:42.560 --> 01:39:45.100
Spruce, Hidden Hills.

01:39:45.100 --> 01:39:47.220
And that's all on the west side.

01:39:47.220 --> 01:39:49.900
You know, we are now having growth on the north.

01:39:49.900 --> 01:39:53.260
And I think we're gonna have future expansion to the north.

01:39:53.260 --> 01:39:56.400
So that growth on the west side has been pretty consistent.

01:40:00.180 --> 01:40:01.180
Just some more of our equipment.

01:40:01.180 --> 01:40:02.300
So we have the two tandems.

01:40:02.300 --> 01:40:05.300
So the truck on the left, that's a brand new truck.

01:40:05.300 --> 01:40:08.720
So that has the capacity to haul like 600 gallons of liquid

01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:10.560
and 12 tons of salt.

01:40:10.560 --> 01:40:13.360
And then it also has a spray bar on the back,

01:40:13.360 --> 01:40:15.960
which is a nice option, especially like during a storm.

01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:17.600
If the temperatures are right, a little bit warmer,

01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:19.720
we actually don't apply like any salt on the mains.

01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:22.760
We'll just plow and apply liquid brine.

01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:25.840
So, and then that's one of our three loaders on the right.

01:40:28.480 --> 01:40:32.200
This has probably been the biggest game changer for us.

01:40:32.200 --> 01:40:33.680
You know, I go into like some of these seminars

01:40:33.700 --> 01:40:34.520
and there's a lot of,

01:40:34.520 --> 01:40:36.220
everyone talks about salt reduction

01:40:36.220 --> 01:40:38.380
and being environmentally friendly.

01:40:38.380 --> 01:40:41.260
But at the same time, everybody knows that,

01:40:41.260 --> 01:40:43.060
you know, you have to use salt.

01:40:43.060 --> 01:40:44.980
It's one of our greatest tools.

01:40:44.980 --> 01:40:49.980
But to me, I think the more you can plow and remove the snow,

01:40:49.980 --> 01:40:51.420
the less you have to salt.

01:40:51.420 --> 01:40:54.180
So these metal plus plows, we now have four of them.

01:40:54.180 --> 01:40:55.420
And if you look at the bottom,

01:40:55.420 --> 01:40:57.180
you can kind of see how that plow

01:40:57.180 --> 01:40:59.420
matches the contour of the road perfectly.

01:41:00.200 --> 01:41:03.720
So a traditional plow would be an 11 or a 12 foot

01:41:03.720 --> 01:41:04.960
straight carbide edge.

01:41:04.960 --> 01:41:07.800
So if that plow was sitting on that road,

01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:10.920
half of it would probably be about four inches off the road.

01:41:10.920 --> 01:41:11.920
So you're not scraping anything.

01:41:11.920 --> 01:41:13.820
You're leaving that amount of snow behind

01:41:13.820 --> 01:41:15.800
where these plows will match the contour of the road

01:41:15.800 --> 01:41:17.800
and get pretty much every little bit of snow off.

01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:19.960
So when we're done going through,

01:41:19.960 --> 01:41:21.160
you're almost on a bare of pavement,

01:41:21.160 --> 01:41:23.880
which means you have very minimal salt needed,

01:41:23.880 --> 01:41:26.480
especially like early in the year and late in the year.

01:41:26.480 --> 01:41:27.600
I mean, February and January,

01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:28.760
we need to have super cold temperatures.

01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:30.940
You're going to get that hard pack.

01:41:30.940 --> 01:41:33.460
But these get you down to pretty much the bare pavement.

01:41:33.460 --> 01:41:36.300
And I can tell you, I plow on the north end

01:41:36.300 --> 01:41:41.180
and East Norport, we all know is not that great of a road.

01:41:41.180 --> 01:41:43.380
Traditionally, like especially January and February,

01:41:43.380 --> 01:41:45.740
that road hard packs super bad

01:41:45.740 --> 01:41:48.100
because during a storm, it gets a ton of traffic,

01:41:48.100 --> 01:41:50.100
which means it's packing the snow down

01:41:50.100 --> 01:41:53.340
and then you can't get all the little dips and stuff.

01:41:53.340 --> 01:41:55.620
Well, this year we had this plow on that road.

01:41:55.620 --> 01:41:57.500
And like during the storms,

01:41:57.520 --> 01:41:59.560
it's down to like bare pavement and restored

01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:01.840
to like wide open like the next day.

01:42:01.840 --> 01:42:04.200
So these plows make a huge difference.

01:42:06.320 --> 01:42:07.840
And then just talk a little bit about training

01:42:07.840 --> 01:42:08.760
and calibration.

01:42:08.760 --> 01:42:11.640
It's like every year myself and the guys

01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:12.680
do some sort of training,

01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:17.680
whether it's through APWA or Salt Wise

01:42:17.760 --> 01:42:19.200
and the Milwaukee River Keepers

01:42:19.200 --> 01:42:21.520
down at the Freshwater Science and Milwaukee.

01:42:21.520 --> 01:42:23.920
Just talking about new industry standards,

01:42:23.920 --> 01:42:26.080
salt reduction strategies.

01:42:26.080 --> 01:42:27.360
The other thing is just making sure

01:42:27.380 --> 01:42:29.300
that our equipment isn't good working orders.

01:42:29.300 --> 01:42:33.300
Like when we set our, our Salters to 200 pounds per lane mile,

01:42:33.300 --> 01:42:34.780
we know that's what we're putting down.

01:42:34.780 --> 01:42:36.660
We're not putting down 400.

01:42:36.660 --> 01:42:37.980
So every year we go through equipment

01:42:37.980 --> 01:42:39.620
and make sure that it's dialed in.

01:42:43.780 --> 01:42:46.620
Weather, the biggest, the hardest thing is,

01:42:46.620 --> 01:42:48.140
is knowing what the weather's gonna be.

01:42:48.140 --> 01:42:49.460
I always say, if you can tell me

01:42:49.460 --> 01:42:50.580
when it's gonna start snowing,

01:42:50.580 --> 01:42:51.500
when it's gonna stop snowing,

01:42:51.500 --> 01:42:53.420
how much we're gonna get the decision making process

01:42:53.420 --> 01:42:54.260
is pretty easy.

01:42:54.260 --> 01:42:56.180
It's never that easy.

01:42:56.200 --> 01:42:58.680
Because the weather's always a gamble, you know?

01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:01.200
So yeah, we watch the local weather.

01:43:01.200 --> 01:43:03.640
I do have ties over at Ozaukee County.

01:43:03.640 --> 01:43:05.000
They get weather through the DOT,

01:43:05.000 --> 01:43:07.120
which is pretty accurate, forecasting.

01:43:07.120 --> 01:43:08.680
But then we also have these.

01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:10.080
So it's an R-West.

01:43:10.080 --> 01:43:11.760
It's a road weather information system.

01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:14.400
So we have one of these at Grand Avenue

01:43:14.400 --> 01:43:16.360
and Summit and Tower.

01:43:16.360 --> 01:43:19.080
So it's a camera, which is super nice.

01:43:19.080 --> 01:43:20.320
So I could call the middle of night.

01:43:20.320 --> 01:43:22.560
I don't have to, I can check out what the camera's doing,

01:43:22.560 --> 01:43:24.200
but this also gives me pavement temperature,

01:43:24.200 --> 01:43:25.080
which is huge.

01:43:26.060 --> 01:43:28.300
Air temperatures, wind speeds,

01:43:28.300 --> 01:43:31.960
it'll give me a local forecast for us specifically.

01:43:32.900 --> 01:43:35.820
So it'll give me projected snowfall totals,

01:43:35.820 --> 01:43:38.860
snowfall intensity, humidity, dewpoint,

01:43:38.860 --> 01:43:42.460
all those little things that try to make my job easier.

01:43:42.460 --> 01:43:43.920
I was making a decision.

01:43:47.020 --> 01:43:50.100
Here's a little history on salt usage.

01:43:50.100 --> 01:43:51.580
So this is the last 12 years.

01:43:51.580 --> 01:43:54.020
So on the left there, you can see

01:43:54.040 --> 01:43:56.440
that was before we got liquid.

01:43:56.440 --> 01:43:57.920
And I'm not saying liquid is the only thing

01:43:57.920 --> 01:43:59.560
a part of this is our strategy.

01:44:00.680 --> 01:44:04.080
But you can see, on the left there, 700 tons,

01:44:04.080 --> 01:44:08.080
1300 tons, 800 tons, 850,000, and 202600.

01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:11.240
And then on the right, you can kind of see

01:44:11.240 --> 01:44:12.640
those numbers tend to get a little bit lower.

01:44:12.640 --> 01:44:17.640
So 594, 60, 350, 475, 550, 320, 321 for this year so far.

01:44:19.480 --> 01:44:20.800
So you can see there's a general trend.

01:44:20.800 --> 01:44:22.800
And again, not every year's apples, the apples,

01:44:22.800 --> 01:44:23.880
but there's a general trend there

01:44:24.020 --> 01:44:26.660
that we are significantly lowering our salt usage.

01:44:28.140 --> 01:44:31.580
This I thought was pretty telling.

01:44:31.580 --> 01:44:34.020
So I was able to get some numbers from Grafton.

01:44:34.020 --> 01:44:37.980
So you can see since 2020, we're using about half

01:44:37.980 --> 01:44:39.700
as much as salt as our neighbor.

01:44:39.700 --> 01:44:42.980
And really pretty close comparison as far as size.

01:44:42.980 --> 01:44:44.740
So they were doing a pretty good job

01:44:44.740 --> 01:44:46.500
as far as reducing salt.

01:44:46.500 --> 01:44:49.080
I said these numbers are almost in half every year.

01:44:49.080 --> 01:44:53.740
You know, and the biggest thing is like, you know,

01:44:53.740 --> 01:44:55.720
it's a fluid process.

01:44:55.720 --> 01:44:58.560
We just had our kind of end of the year review

01:44:58.560 --> 01:45:01.140
with all the guys last week kind of talking about like,

01:45:01.140 --> 01:45:04.460
you know, changes that we made going into this season,

01:45:04.460 --> 01:45:08.020
how those changes worked, kind of tweaking things,

01:45:08.020 --> 01:45:09.140
looking into next year already,

01:45:09.140 --> 01:45:11.180
well, everything's still fresh ahead.

01:45:11.180 --> 01:45:12.680
So every year things change a little bit,

01:45:12.680 --> 01:45:15.920
whether it's how we handle routes,

01:45:15.920 --> 01:45:18.320
getting new technology, new equipment.

01:45:18.320 --> 01:45:20.680
We're always looking to improve the process

01:45:20.680 --> 01:45:23.580
and the procedure and then just kind of do a review

01:45:23.580 --> 01:45:24.540
at the end of the year.

01:45:24.540 --> 01:45:28.480
So I'm glad it's done for the year.

01:45:28.480 --> 01:45:30.680
This time of the year is always good for me.

01:45:30.680 --> 01:45:32.240
I like trying to sleep through the night.

01:45:32.240 --> 01:45:33.520
Yeah, hopefully we're done.

01:45:34.520 --> 01:45:38.560
But yeah, I mean, I give a huge credit to the guys too.

01:45:38.560 --> 01:45:40.560
You know, when we first talked about like, all right guys,

01:45:40.560 --> 01:45:41.680
we're not gonna salt everything.

01:45:41.680 --> 01:45:42.880
Well, it was kind of like, all right.

01:45:42.880 --> 01:45:44.240
But like, you know, it takes years,

01:45:44.240 --> 01:45:46.640
but we've gotten a lot of buy into the guys.

01:45:46.640 --> 01:45:48.520
So a lot of that is a credit to them.

01:45:48.520 --> 01:45:50.200
They do take a lot of pride

01:45:50.200 --> 01:45:53.400
in trying to reduce salt usage.

01:45:53.400 --> 01:45:54.760
Well, still providing, you know,

01:45:54.760 --> 01:45:56.760
safe traveling for the general public.

01:45:58.000 --> 01:45:59.760
You know, I give those guys a lot of credit.

01:45:59.760 --> 01:46:01.800
You know, it's not just me, it's a team effort.

01:46:01.800 --> 01:46:04.840
And the biggest thing is like, is their dedication.

01:46:04.840 --> 01:46:07.800
You know, it's not a fun guys give up weekends up north

01:46:07.800 --> 01:46:09.880
or plans with their family.

01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:11.240
I think they all know like, you know,

01:46:11.240 --> 01:46:12.800
if it's gonna snow on Christmas,

01:46:12.800 --> 01:46:14.360
we're gonna be in working.

01:46:15.360 --> 01:46:17.760
So again, just a huge credit to those guys,

01:46:17.760 --> 01:46:18.760
credit to the team.

01:46:20.360 --> 01:46:21.960
And yeah, I'm glad it's done for the year.

01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:24.620
So with that, I'll take any questions.

01:46:29.160 --> 01:46:30.720
Any questions?

01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:31.800
No?

01:46:31.800 --> 01:46:32.960
Yes, thank you.

01:46:32.960 --> 01:46:33.960
Report.

01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:35.440
Yeah.

01:46:35.440 --> 01:46:39.120
All right, then we'll move on to item eight.

01:46:39.120 --> 01:46:42.440
Consideration and possible action on construction change

01:46:42.440 --> 01:46:44.760
order five at the water treatment plant.

01:46:48.240 --> 01:46:49.360
Roger will take this one.

01:46:49.360 --> 01:46:52.120
Dan was supposed to be here tonight,

01:46:52.120 --> 01:46:55.440
but he was traveling and is being delayed.

01:46:55.440 --> 01:46:59.440
So, Roger's all along.

01:46:59.440 --> 01:47:00.280
All right.

01:47:01.880 --> 01:47:05.560
So remember, last board meeting,

01:47:05.560 --> 01:47:07.720
maybe it was two board meetings ago.

01:47:07.720 --> 01:47:09.360
He says we brought to change or we said,

01:47:09.360 --> 01:47:12.240
hey, our contingencies used up.

01:47:12.240 --> 01:47:15.800
So since then, we've met with the general government

01:47:15.800 --> 01:47:19.440
finance committee, kind of talked to him about

01:47:19.440 --> 01:47:21.200
what we see as change orders coming up,

01:47:21.200 --> 01:47:25.080
what sort of, what we're anticipating and needing

01:47:25.080 --> 01:47:29.040
and money, it's roughly a little bit over a million dollars.

01:47:31.120 --> 01:47:33.560
The water plants in good shape fiscally

01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:35.200
that the money's there in reserve.

01:47:35.200 --> 01:47:38.880
So that's essentially what's funding this change order.

01:47:39.720 --> 01:47:44.720
So you can see this change order is almost 680,000 dollars.

01:47:45.600 --> 01:47:47.160
Again, I'll knock on wood.

01:47:47.160 --> 01:47:49.680
I think this puts us in pretty good shape

01:47:49.680 --> 01:47:51.480
of staying underneath the amount

01:47:52.440 --> 01:47:55.360
that we worked out with the general government

01:47:55.360 --> 01:47:56.520
and finance committee.

01:47:57.520 --> 01:48:01.120
I want to highlight a couple items

01:48:01.120 --> 01:48:03.320
in this change order specifically.

01:48:04.320 --> 01:48:08.280
So item 54, the vacuum prime system.

01:48:10.280 --> 01:48:12.120
Last change order you approved buying it

01:48:12.120 --> 01:48:13.760
because there's a long lead time.

01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:16.400
It's something we need to have to make the pump,

01:48:16.400 --> 01:48:18.080
to make the raw water pumps work,

01:48:18.080 --> 01:48:20.000
which is the very first process

01:48:20.000 --> 01:48:22.640
of making clean water for people to drink.

01:48:26.520 --> 01:48:29.360
For whatever reason was not included in original design,

01:48:29.360 --> 01:48:31.000
so it had to be added.

01:48:34.320 --> 01:48:37.600
So that's almost 88,000 dollars of this.

01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:40.000
Item 55, chemical green changes.

01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:42.760
That's another 122, another big ticket item.

01:48:42.760 --> 01:48:46.480
So that work also is not currently done.

01:48:48.320 --> 01:48:54.320
But in the garage of plant two,

01:48:54.320 --> 01:48:58.320
we have basically is our polyphosphate tank,

01:48:58.320 --> 01:49:02.320
which is a critical chemical I have for our processes.

01:49:03.160 --> 01:49:05.760
It basically provides a corrosion control.

01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:09.400
If that tank were to get damaged or leak,

01:49:09.400 --> 01:49:12.400
or leak because it's damaged or leak anyway,

01:49:12.400 --> 01:49:13.880
I mean, basically we're shut down.

01:49:13.880 --> 01:49:17.840
We need to add this chemical to our process.

01:49:18.960 --> 01:49:20.400
So it's in the garage.

01:49:21.560 --> 01:49:23.760
It is at risk to get hit by vehicle.

01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:25.360
Somebody comes in, whatever,

01:49:25.360 --> 01:49:26.960
looking at their phone in their car.

01:49:26.960 --> 01:49:28.400
So far it hasn't happened,

01:49:28.400 --> 01:49:31.880
but it's a risk that we're there.

01:49:31.880 --> 01:49:33.360
The other thing that happened

01:49:33.360 --> 01:49:38.360
is the electrical component design

01:49:39.040 --> 01:49:43.400
for the water plant was largely specified

01:49:43.400 --> 01:49:47.880
with the intent that it was going to sort of be design built.

01:49:47.880 --> 01:49:52.360
Well, it turns out they needed the back wall of this garage

01:49:52.360 --> 01:49:53.760
where this tank is located

01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:57.200
to put many of their electrical components.

01:49:57.200 --> 01:50:00.080
And in a cold reason state,

01:50:00.080 --> 01:50:02.880
they need four feet of clearance.

01:50:02.880 --> 01:50:04.520
So all of that combined,

01:50:04.520 --> 01:50:07.640
as we just said, it's best to move this tank

01:50:07.640 --> 01:50:10.720
to its own separate facility,

01:50:10.720 --> 01:50:14.080
remove the risk of it getting damage inadvertently,

01:50:14.080 --> 01:50:17.240
put it in cold compliance with the electrical.

01:50:17.240 --> 01:50:20.400
It couldn't go, we have a room available

01:50:20.400 --> 01:50:24.160
with the chlorine storage, but they need to be separated.

01:50:24.160 --> 01:50:25.920
So the room is big enough,

01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:28.720
but essentially we have to build a second room

01:50:29.800 --> 01:50:30.920
for this tank.

01:50:30.920 --> 01:50:32.480
And then this cost also includes

01:50:32.480 --> 01:50:35.120
then all the subsequent plumbing and stuff

01:50:35.120 --> 01:50:37.880
then the rewrote the lines for the chemical.

01:50:41.000 --> 01:50:46.080
Item 57, $15,000.

01:50:46.080 --> 01:50:49.960
This essentially is a mistake on our engineer.

01:50:49.960 --> 01:50:52.320
They'll be reimbursing us for this cost.

01:50:53.320 --> 01:50:56.040
It's included in this change order.

01:50:56.040 --> 01:50:58.160
We have a contract with CD Smith.

01:50:58.160 --> 01:50:59.760
We will pay CD Smith.

01:50:59.760 --> 01:51:02.080
And likely what will happen is we'll just deduct it

01:51:02.080 --> 01:51:04.600
from our engineer's next pay request.

01:51:07.200 --> 01:51:08.760
Unless they want to send a check separately.

01:51:08.760 --> 01:51:09.600
But.

01:51:12.560 --> 01:51:17.040
And then the largest item on here, almost 300,000,

01:51:17.040 --> 01:51:21.080
is we want to change the filter media in plant one.

01:51:21.120 --> 01:51:23.560
And slightly, this also includes plant two,

01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:26.240
but it's largely plant one item.

01:51:26.240 --> 01:51:31.240
So plant one filters were redone in the late 90s,

01:51:33.520 --> 01:51:34.360
I want to say.

01:51:37.120 --> 01:51:41.160
And when they started the design of this project

01:51:41.160 --> 01:51:46.360
in 2018, 2017 and that they tested a filter

01:51:46.360 --> 01:51:48.560
about everything about SPACs.

01:51:48.560 --> 01:51:50.680
But here were 10 years later,

01:51:51.520 --> 01:51:55.080
the material has typically a 30 to 40 year design life.

01:51:55.080 --> 01:51:57.240
So we're getting close to that.

01:51:57.240 --> 01:52:02.240
And we're changing the,

01:52:03.600 --> 01:52:07.760
we have to change the material in plant two.

01:52:07.760 --> 01:52:10.000
Plant two has a water back wash system.

01:52:10.000 --> 01:52:12.520
Plant one has an air wash system.

01:52:12.520 --> 01:52:14.840
So the design was include plant two

01:52:14.840 --> 01:52:18.800
is to change the filter, change it to air, air backwash,

01:52:18.800 --> 01:52:20.640
which is a more efficient process.

01:52:24.520 --> 01:52:25.720
So plant two is covered.

01:52:25.720 --> 01:52:29.480
So then as we're going through this,

01:52:31.760 --> 01:52:34.760
the plant used to for taste and order control

01:52:35.720 --> 01:52:37.920
add a powdered carbon.

01:52:39.040 --> 01:52:41.000
It was a tank on the second floor.

01:52:41.000 --> 01:52:43.800
They had to climb a ladder with a 50 pound bag

01:52:43.960 --> 01:52:47.440
of this powdered carbon, which is charcoal dust

01:52:47.440 --> 01:52:49.640
for lack of a better word.

01:52:49.640 --> 01:52:52.040
And dumping it into this tank makes it up,

01:52:52.040 --> 01:52:56.520
send it, it was very, it would not pass any health

01:52:56.520 --> 01:53:01.200
and safety requirements at this point in time.

01:53:01.200 --> 01:53:02.520
So that's been eliminated.

01:53:02.520 --> 01:53:05.480
So we'd like to change the granular

01:53:05.480 --> 01:53:09.360
or the anthracite carbon that's in the filters

01:53:09.360 --> 01:53:12.160
to what's called granular activated carbon,

01:53:12.600 --> 01:53:17.840
which is more of a powdery substance,

01:53:17.840 --> 01:53:19.720
the acronym for it is GAC.

01:53:19.720 --> 01:53:21.600
So the other thing with the GAC,

01:53:21.600 --> 01:53:23.920
essentially it's got more surface area.

01:53:23.920 --> 01:53:26.080
It'll take out more,

01:53:26.080 --> 01:53:27.200
it'll take out more pollutants,

01:53:27.200 --> 01:53:29.760
it'll function as taste and order

01:53:30.720 --> 01:53:33.520
on an ongoing continuous basis

01:53:33.520 --> 01:53:36.160
rather than when you think you need it.

01:53:38.520 --> 01:53:40.040
It's also gonna be a better material

01:53:40.440 --> 01:53:43.080
for what we call emerging contaminants,

01:53:43.080 --> 01:53:47.000
pesticides, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals,

01:53:47.000 --> 01:53:49.400
things that people tend to flush down their toilet

01:53:49.400 --> 01:53:52.600
that do not get removed at the wastewater plant

01:53:52.600 --> 01:53:54.160
that end up in the lake,

01:53:56.840 --> 01:54:00.760
which then we treat the drink.

01:54:00.760 --> 01:54:02.840
So those are the large items in the change

01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:07.120
or I'm happy to go through any of the other items on here.

01:54:08.120 --> 01:54:12.200
But as I said, I think we're in a good position,

01:54:12.200 --> 01:54:14.280
you know, knock on wood again here

01:54:14.280 --> 01:54:16.600
that we're gonna finish up

01:54:16.600 --> 01:54:19.120
with the money that we have available.

01:54:22.120 --> 01:54:24.120
All right, thank you.

01:54:24.120 --> 01:54:27.120
Yeah, I think this is all reasonable stuff.

01:54:27.120 --> 01:54:29.120
And yeah, it's once again,

01:54:29.120 --> 01:54:32.120
a lot of stuff that should have been caught earlier,

01:54:32.120 --> 01:54:37.080
but it's not an expense that we wouldn't have had

01:54:37.240 --> 01:54:38.400
if we had been caught earlier,

01:54:38.400 --> 01:54:39.600
we'd be paying for this anyway.

01:54:39.600 --> 01:54:42.800
So it's, I don't see it as being, you know,

01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:46.880
something extravagant or unneeded.

01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:51.280
So that said, any questions or comments on the board?

01:54:51.280 --> 01:54:52.120
Yes.

01:54:52.120 --> 01:54:53.280
I just have one small comment.

01:54:53.280 --> 01:54:55.440
I was fortunate enough to be able to have a tour

01:54:55.440 --> 01:54:57.080
with Dan and Roger.

01:54:57.080 --> 01:55:01.600
And it was very evident that the former plant manager

01:55:01.600 --> 01:55:03.080
and the current plant manager

01:55:03.080 --> 01:55:05.800
had different visions for this project

01:55:05.800 --> 01:55:09.720
and due to this change,

01:55:09.720 --> 01:55:13.600
we were very fortunate because our current plant manager

01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:15.760
has a vision that aligns with the future

01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:20.480
and this is our opportunity to make these corrections

01:55:20.480 --> 01:55:24.200
before we have to rip things apart and start over again.

01:55:24.200 --> 01:55:27.400
So I would make a motion

01:55:27.400 --> 01:55:31.040
to approve the staff recommendation.

01:55:31.040 --> 01:55:32.680
All right, we have a motion on the floor

01:55:32.720 --> 01:55:34.880
from older woman Miller.

01:55:34.880 --> 01:55:35.760
Is there a second?

01:55:35.760 --> 01:55:36.760
I'll second.

01:55:36.760 --> 01:55:39.760
Second from Mr. Pauli.

01:55:39.760 --> 01:55:42.400
Any discussion on the motion?

01:55:42.400 --> 01:55:44.920
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

01:55:44.920 --> 01:55:45.840
Aye.

01:55:45.840 --> 01:55:46.680
Opposed?

01:55:46.680 --> 01:55:48.480
Motion carries.

01:55:48.480 --> 01:55:51.120
And I will offer anybody else on the board

01:55:51.120 --> 01:55:52.360
would like to take a tour to plant

01:55:52.360 --> 01:55:54.680
which we're happy to walk you through.

01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:58.280
I'm fascinated by the process, you know.

01:55:59.440 --> 01:56:01.320
It's a good tour to take them up on it.

01:56:03.560 --> 01:56:06.040
All right, that brings us to item nine,

01:56:06.040 --> 01:56:07.960
consideration and possible action

01:56:07.960 --> 01:56:10.680
on a revised proposal from Gremmer and Associates

01:56:10.680 --> 01:56:14.480
to design the proposed 2027 street improvements.

01:56:14.480 --> 01:56:15.320
Here, can you?

01:56:16.920 --> 01:56:18.720
Well, this is coming up, I'll just lead into it.

01:56:18.720 --> 01:56:23.720
So JD bailed, but essentially January we approved

01:56:24.720 --> 01:56:27.720
the scope of work for Gremmer for 2027.

01:56:27.720 --> 01:56:31.720
And then as pays the results got in,

01:56:31.720 --> 01:56:35.720
we talked to JD, Rob and I talked a little bit more

01:56:35.720 --> 01:56:38.720
to ourselves, we kind of thought, you know,

01:56:38.720 --> 01:56:43.720
Holden running up from James up to Berry

01:56:43.720 --> 01:56:46.720
is even though it's, well, James,

01:56:46.720 --> 01:56:49.720
the North part is not that old.

01:56:49.720 --> 01:56:54.720
And then Jefferson, the Walters, not that old,

01:56:54.720 --> 01:56:57.720
we just thought it would be best to overlay it.

01:56:57.720 --> 01:57:00.720
So not do complete street reconstruction,

01:57:00.720 --> 01:57:03.720
but to include an overlay on that

01:57:03.720 --> 01:57:07.720
and then take the reconstruction up to Berry

01:57:07.720 --> 01:57:09.720
from North part to Berry.

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Okay.

01:57:30.720 --> 01:57:31.720
That it?

01:57:34.720 --> 01:57:36.720
So I don't know if we can get that on screen.

01:57:36.720 --> 01:57:38.720
Well, if we can't get it on screen, that's fine.

01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:39.720
It's in your packet.

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There we go.

01:57:44.720 --> 01:57:45.720
Yeah.

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So you can kind of see this green area.

01:57:51.720 --> 01:57:53.720
Let me zoom a little.

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The green area is what we were planning on doing.

01:57:59.720 --> 01:58:02.720
The blue area we'd like to include

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as what we would call a millen overlay.

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For anyone that's not familiar with that,

01:58:06.720 --> 01:58:10.720
that basically just means we take off the surface of the asphalt

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and put new surface down for the asphalt.

01:58:13.720 --> 01:58:16.720
So everything else stays in place.

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And then the red up top here is,

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we would like to add that as part of our reconstruction.

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We have money in our design budget to do this work.

01:58:34.720 --> 01:58:37.720
I'm just going to say with construction budget,

01:58:38.720 --> 01:58:42.720
with current events in Iran, asphalt's more expensive,

01:58:42.720 --> 01:58:46.720
plastic pipes more expensive, diesel fuels more expensive.

01:58:46.720 --> 01:58:49.720
I don't know if we will be able to construct all this,

01:58:49.720 --> 01:58:51.720
but I would like to get the design done.

01:58:51.720 --> 01:58:53.720
Okay.

01:58:53.720 --> 01:58:57.720
So with the green area being changed to an overlay

01:58:57.720 --> 01:58:59.720
on Holden between Fairview and James,

01:58:59.720 --> 01:59:02.720
there's a lot of water main breaks in there.

01:59:02.720 --> 01:59:03.720
Let me back up.

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The green would still stay as reconstructed.

01:59:05.720 --> 01:59:06.720
Okay.

01:59:06.720 --> 01:59:07.720
Green still reconstruction.

01:59:07.720 --> 01:59:08.720
Okay.

01:59:08.720 --> 01:59:09.720
So green and red is reconstruction.

01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:10.720
Okay.

01:59:10.720 --> 01:59:13.720
So the purple is what is becoming just an overlay.

01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:14.720
Yes.

01:59:14.720 --> 01:59:15.720
Okay.

01:59:15.720 --> 01:59:16.720
All right.

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Then I'm not quite so concerned about that.

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This is to be done in all of 2027.

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Is it going to be one continuous street closure

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or will it be done in sections?

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So design will be done in all of 2027.

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Okay.

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Ideally construction will be all in 2028 as one project.

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But as I said, we may not have construction dollars to do it all.

01:59:45.720 --> 01:59:49.720
So that that'll be something we'll have to work through in a budget process.

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That would be summer.

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Most likely our road projects tend to start in late March,

01:59:56.720 --> 01:59:59.720
early April and run through September.

01:59:59.720 --> 02:00:03.720
So this would be set up because it is between the two schools.

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We would have to set this up as work.

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Work starts.

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And we have a large summer school program there.

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So I'm just, it needs to be done, but that's very busy road.

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I'm sorry.

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26 is design 27 is construction.

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Yeah.

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Sure.

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Yep.

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Seven one.

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Seven one question.

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So I think it makes it's logical to do the design work now.

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I think since it's all relative to each other,

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if for some reason we can't do a portion of the construction due to financial constraints,

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how long are those designs typically good for?

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Like, would there be a chance we have to go back and do design work if we had to push it off a couple of years?

02:01:02.720 --> 02:01:06.720
For a project like this, no, if it's within a couple of years.

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And especially this neighborhood, you know, what would trigger redesign would be if there's like new development or something else.

02:01:13.720 --> 02:01:19.720
And you got a new driveway or something that you're trying to accommodate that wasn't there before.

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But generally, the thing that changes the most that could potentially change most would be like a survey cross section.

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And this is basically built up neighborhood.

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I would not anticipate anything here changing in five years time.

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Yeah.

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Your DNR permits expire after a couple of years.

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But other than that, yeah.

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I don't see anything design wise on this that I would probably be good for 10 years or more without any major change.

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Any other comments or questions?

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No.

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Seeing none, I will entertain a motion on this item.

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I'll make a motion to approve.

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All right.

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We have a motion from older woman Miller.

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Is there a second?

02:02:13.720 --> 02:02:14.720
Second.

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We have a second.

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Any questions on the motion?

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Seeing none.

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All those in favor say aye.

02:02:22.720 --> 02:02:23.720
Aye.

02:02:23.720 --> 02:02:24.720
Opposed?

02:02:24.720 --> 02:02:25.720
Motion carries.

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All right.

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That brings us to item 10 consideration and possible action on the municipal separated storm sewer system.

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MS4 permit annual report.

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The always super exciting MS4 report.

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It's the most exciting thing we do all year.

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All right.

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It's been a long night.

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So, the MS4 reports in there, if anybody wants to reach out to me and ask questions, please do.

02:03:13.720 --> 02:03:15.720
The bottom line.

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So, let me just give you a little background that because the size of what Port Washington

02:03:26.720 --> 02:03:33.720
is, we are required to have a stormwater permit under DNR rule and our 216, which includes

02:03:33.720 --> 02:03:38.720
this MS4, which is municipal separate storm sewer system.

02:03:39.720 --> 02:03:40.720
This is a mall phone.

02:03:40.720 --> 02:03:41.720
I usually forget one of the essence.

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So, MS4 is what we call it.

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You might hear some people call it a 216 per minute community.

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So, we need to report to the DNR on an annual basis what we've done related to stormwater.

02:03:54.720 --> 02:04:03.720
So, we inspect our publicly owned stormwater detention ponds and rain gardens and infiltration

02:04:04.720 --> 02:04:13.720
We, a lot of the subdivisions and stuff will self inspect their detention ponds report that

02:04:13.720 --> 02:04:14.720
to us.

02:04:14.720 --> 02:04:21.720
We'll do some audits of their inspections and some will just go out and inspect.

02:04:21.720 --> 02:04:28.720
We have to check our outfall, our large outfalls to see if there's anything that's connected

02:04:28.720 --> 02:04:35.720
into the storm sewer that shouldn't be connected like a sanitary sewer or some sort of industrial

02:04:35.720 --> 02:04:39.720
runoff.

02:04:39.720 --> 02:04:46.720
We have to do some public education and outreach, which we contract.

02:04:46.720 --> 02:04:51.720
Sweet water, which kind of does that through Southeast Wisconsin.

02:04:51.720 --> 02:04:52.720
And they do it.

02:04:52.720 --> 02:04:54.720
So, they have a lot of communities.

02:04:54.720 --> 02:04:56.720
So, they got a bigger budget.

02:04:56.720 --> 02:05:05.720
They can do some real outreach versus us trying to do it on their own.

02:05:05.720 --> 02:05:07.720
Construction site pollution control, that's a big one.

02:05:07.720 --> 02:05:14.720
So, all of our commercial developments over an acre and this year we have six.

02:05:14.720 --> 02:05:21.720
We have to, as part of our MS4, we need to do monthly inspections.

02:05:22.720 --> 02:05:27.720
Any construction site over an acre is required to do weekly.

02:05:27.720 --> 02:05:35.720
So, if it's our project, like the road project, county highway, all public safety building.

02:05:35.720 --> 02:05:38.720
We inspect those weekly and required.

02:05:38.720 --> 02:05:42.720
So, all that gets reported to DNR.

02:05:42.720 --> 02:05:47.720
So, I guess the kind of bottom line, we're in pretty good shape with our storm water.

02:05:47.720 --> 02:05:49.720
It can always get better.

02:05:49.720 --> 02:05:53.720
It's sort of like what JD said with the salt.

02:05:53.720 --> 02:06:03.720
Anything that anybody throws on the ground, on the road, near the road, near a drain, geologically

02:06:03.720 --> 02:06:10.720
speaking, is a short trip from there to the lake to our drinking water.

02:06:10.720 --> 02:06:16.720
So, we just want people to be conscientious of, don't throw it on the ground unless you

02:06:16.720 --> 02:06:20.720
want to drink it, basically.

02:06:20.720 --> 02:06:28.720
So, I guess I do need a motion for a permit to accept a report.

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If anybody would like, full copy reports in your packet, if anybody would like to sit

02:06:34.720 --> 02:06:39.720
down with me outside this meeting or I can come back at another meeting and go into more

02:06:39.720 --> 02:06:43.720
detail with it, but I guess in the interest of time tonight, I'll keep it.

02:06:43.720 --> 02:06:45.720
I won't say any more.

02:06:45.720 --> 02:06:49.720
I'd move to accept the MS4 annual report.

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Is that line by staff?

02:06:52.720 --> 02:07:00.720
All right, we have a motion by Mr. Pauli or Mr. Haley.

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Is there a second?

02:07:02.720 --> 02:07:03.720
Yes.

02:07:03.720 --> 02:07:06.720
Yes, second by Alderman Miller.

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Any questions on the motion?

02:07:09.720 --> 02:07:12.720
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

02:07:12.720 --> 02:07:13.720
Aye.

02:07:13.720 --> 02:07:14.720
Opposed?

02:07:14.720 --> 02:07:15.720
Motion carries.

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All right, that brings us to item 11, first quarter update on 2026 charter.

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Okay, so, yeah, as Roger stated, it's been a long evening of presentations.

02:07:30.720 --> 02:07:41.720
Hopefully you've had a moment to go through our charter, so we track our progress on each

02:07:41.720 --> 02:07:48.160
of the many items that are covered through our Department of Public Works, which we as

02:07:48.160 --> 02:07:53.400
a team meet monthly and go over this so that everyone knows what, I guess, what everyone

02:07:53.400 --> 02:07:55.640
else is doing.

02:07:55.640 --> 02:08:04.480
Many of these items come up regularly to the board that, so you're tracking the progress

02:08:04.480 --> 02:08:05.960
along with us.

02:08:05.960 --> 02:08:11.960
Are there any questions about any of the projects that we're working on?

02:08:11.960 --> 02:08:16.600
Let's go to that, but if you would like me to go down the list, I can't go down the

02:08:16.600 --> 02:08:17.600
list.

02:08:17.600 --> 02:08:21.200
I think the only question I would have is, is there anything that's off track, like a

02:08:21.200 --> 02:08:30.600
high degree off track at this point, no, nothing, I mean, nothing of great significance.

02:08:30.600 --> 02:08:38.960
We had our directional drilling project for the bluff.

02:08:38.960 --> 02:08:43.080
We had that out for bid last month, and unfortunately, we didn't get any bidders, so we need to

02:08:43.080 --> 02:08:48.040
rebit it, so that's, at least not, it's not off track so that we won't get it done, but

02:08:48.040 --> 02:08:51.160
it's not in the schedule we had hoped for.

02:08:51.160 --> 02:08:53.560
And the bluff says it's not happening fast enough.

02:08:53.560 --> 02:08:59.400
Right, yeah, right, right, so Mother Nature reminds us that she's always in charge, but

02:08:59.400 --> 02:09:04.360
yeah, so we're anxious to get that work done.

02:09:04.360 --> 02:09:10.760
In my staff report, I mentioned we Energies is doing a similar project, and so we should

02:09:10.760 --> 02:09:16.320
probably reach out to them and see who's doing it if they have a contractor.

02:09:16.320 --> 02:09:22.640
So again, we weren't expecting that because we had nine, eight or nine contractors take

02:09:22.640 --> 02:09:32.240
out a bid set, so we certainly expected to have a robust selection of contractors to

02:09:32.240 --> 02:09:36.400
choose from, but that was not the case.

02:09:36.400 --> 02:09:44.800
One of our projects that is in our charter and was budgeted for this year is work on

02:09:44.800 --> 02:09:47.400
the Egerert House.

02:09:47.400 --> 02:09:52.560
They are taking that on themselves with money that they receive from vantage and through

02:09:52.560 --> 02:09:59.960
private donations, so they're doing, I think, about $150,000 of upgrades to that house,

02:09:59.960 --> 02:10:04.760
so that's great, and I guess I would say it had a schedule.

02:10:04.760 --> 02:10:12.320
As far as development goes, if you drive out to Highland Point, you'll see houses going

02:10:12.320 --> 02:10:15.200
up quite rapidly.

02:10:15.200 --> 02:10:22.600
So, and the same thing in Hidden Hills North, there's really rapid development of all these

02:10:22.600 --> 02:10:25.400
housing projects.

02:10:25.400 --> 02:10:32.160
Sidewalk Project, Roger, should begin when?

02:10:32.160 --> 02:10:38.520
Well, by the end of this month, we basically just need to work through insurance on the

02:10:38.520 --> 02:10:39.520
contract.

02:10:39.520 --> 02:10:44.800
Yep, and that's our 2025 Sidewalk Project, so we still have 2026 to take care of.

02:10:44.800 --> 02:10:52.160
Sheet piloting project over on the Division Street Box culvert that is not started yet,

02:10:52.160 --> 02:10:58.360
but that should be complete by June 30th, is the contract deadline for that.

02:10:58.360 --> 02:11:08.840
Public safety building is on schedule to be complete in as early as mid-June, or it could

02:11:08.840 --> 02:11:14.560
be as late as mid-July.

02:11:14.560 --> 02:11:23.800
Yeah, what about what's going on with the Spring Street Santeri sewer project?

02:11:23.800 --> 02:11:33.440
Yeah, so that project is, okay, we'll get restarted at the end of the month, but that

02:11:33.440 --> 02:11:38.680
has been a bit of a challenge, we started it in winter and there's some directional

02:11:38.680 --> 02:11:48.320
drilling underneath the railroad track and unfortunately the directional drill hit part

02:11:48.320 --> 02:11:55.440
of what we think is an old portion of the underpass that was there.

02:11:55.440 --> 02:12:01.320
Even though we did soil borings, the railroad limits where you can do the soil borings and

02:12:01.320 --> 02:12:08.080
unfortunately, once we hit it, they would not allow us to continue drilling.

02:12:08.080 --> 02:12:13.360
We wanted to keep drilling through the abutment, but they would not let us, and so that project

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has been delayed.

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I just have one small question.

02:12:21.440 --> 02:12:26.960
The design, Marina North Building improvements, this project delays remind me why, if you've

02:12:26.960 --> 02:12:27.960
told me before.

02:12:27.960 --> 02:12:34.440
Yeah, that's been discussed, that's something that I believe the Council would like to see

02:12:34.440 --> 02:12:38.440
delayed at least for this year.

02:12:38.440 --> 02:12:42.000
All right, any other comments?

02:12:42.000 --> 02:12:45.800
It's not the construction of it, that was just the design improvements.

02:12:45.800 --> 02:12:49.600
All right, any other comments, questions?

02:12:49.600 --> 02:12:56.760
All right, seeing none, then we will move on to item 12, well, review monthly staff reports.

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Yeah, and again, I'll take any questions.

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You know, I have the Ozaki County Clean Sweep is May 2nd, and coincidentally, they don't

02:13:10.560 --> 02:13:16.700
take electronic items, but I had someone from a company out of Sheboygan that does this

02:13:16.700 --> 02:13:22.360
asking if they could do an electronics collection event in Port Washington, so paired well,

02:13:22.360 --> 02:13:32.600
and they're coordinating with the Ozaki County Food Pantry, or our food, let's see,

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I don't know if it's the poor Washington or the Ozaki, but in any case, our food pantry

02:13:36.920 --> 02:13:40.820
on Grand Avenue, so that's where they're going to have an electronics collection on

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June 13th, so I have the flyer in here.

02:13:44.080 --> 02:13:50.520
There's a volunteer event for tree planting up in Birchwood Hills and in Upper Lake Park,

02:13:50.520 --> 02:13:59.480
so we've removed invasives, and so now we're planting hundreds of trees in both of these

02:13:59.480 --> 02:14:06.880
locations with both Stantec screws and some volunteer forces from Vantage will be on

02:14:06.880 --> 02:14:13.600
site as well as LNRP, so that I'm going to say whether depending is going to take place

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April 22nd.

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Other than that, usually we're getting into tree planting and street sweeping, and we

02:14:27.520 --> 02:14:31.560
have a couple of new employees who started last month, one in water and one in wastewater,

02:14:31.560 --> 02:14:39.600
so we're excited to be back at full staffing for those positions, so especially well for

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both of them.

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In wastewater, we only have three operators, so when you're down one person, you're missing

02:14:44.680 --> 02:14:52.640
33% of your staff, so we're excited to have that new employee on board, Josh Meyer, and

02:14:52.640 --> 02:15:00.960
then in water is our replacement for what's primarily a second shift operator, and again,

02:15:00.960 --> 02:15:06.480
when there's only four operators, well, everyone can operate the plant, but there's four shifts,

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and so when one of your shifts is missing, people are substituting for that in that role,

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and so puts a lot of pressure on the people that are on staff, so grateful to the people

02:15:17.560 --> 02:15:23.920
who stepped in, but I know they're very happy to, again, be at full staff down there.

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All right, yes, and we'll move on to item 13, Chairman's Business.

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I really don't have any, I'm happy to see that Lake Drive Reconstruction, LL, will not

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happen concurrently as the original schedule had it, and good to see that LL gets repaved

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coming up pretty soon.

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Moving on to item 14, is there any members of the liaisons business?

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Nope, seeing none, move to item 15, public comments and appearances, any public comments

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or appearances?

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It doesn't look it.

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All right, our next meeting will be May 12th, 2026, at 5.30pm in this room, as stated before

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in one of our emotions, and with that, we will look for a motion to adjourn.

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So we have a motion to adjourn.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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A motion to second.

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All in favors.

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Say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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We are adjourned.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Aye.