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All right, ready?

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I call to order the Tuesday, April 14th,

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2026 meeting of the City of Port Washington

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Board of Public Works.

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We have two members are away and excused,

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but we do have a quorum.

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So we will move on to item two,

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approve minutes of previous meeting.

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Does anybody have any questions or comments?

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Otherwise, I will entertain a motion to approve.

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Motion to approve.

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We have a motion to approve by Mr. Haley.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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And we have a second by Mr. Polly.

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Any questions on the motion?

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Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed?

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Motion carries.

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That brings us to item three, public comments

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and appearances.

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Do we have any public comments or appearances tonight?

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It does not look it.

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All right, we'll move on then to item four.

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Consideration and possible recommendation

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on the Port Moves Bicycle and Pedestrian Plan.

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Rob?

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Okay, yep, this is the first of four presentations tonight,

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but we have leading an office there at school

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from tool design who will come up to the microphone

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and make a presentation on the bicycle and ped plan

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that we've been working on, which is called Port Moves.

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This process started nearly two years ago.

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It's been extended out a bit longer than we wanted,

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but we're happy to finally be crossing the finish line.

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She'll go into the public outreach that occurred

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as part of developing this plan.

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And again, I think it's been much anticipated.

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We will take this plan tonight

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and bring it to the council meeting on May 5th

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for adoption.

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So if there are any questions that the board

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or any of the council members have

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from this presentation, if they could bring those,

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or if they could give those to me

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in the next two to three weeks

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prior to our May 5th presentation that you're appreciated.

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So other than that, Sarah's ready to go.

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I'm ready.

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Okay, well, good evening, everybody.

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As Rob said, my name is Sarah Schooley.

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I'm a principal planner at Tool Design.

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And Tool Design is a planning, engineering and design group

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that focuses specifically on active transportation,

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so walking, biking, and rolling.

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Exactly what this plan is about.

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We were fortunate enough to be hired

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by the city of Port Washington about two years ago

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to do their bicycle and pedestrian plan.

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So today I'm going to give a broad overview of the plan.

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And like Rob said, we would appreciate your comments

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and questions.

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And I also delivered some draft plans to Rob.

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So if you don't want to look on your screen

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and would rather actually look at paper,

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we have that available as well.

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So the presentation today is going to be very brief

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and pretty high level.

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So I'll go over the project purpose, vision and goals,

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public engagement, plan recommendations, next steps,

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and then the plan adoption as part of that next steps.

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But before I dig in, I want to talk about the plan purpose.

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So as we said, this is the bike and pedestrian plan.

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Port Washington is actually a relatively amazing place

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in many ways for people to walk and bike.

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You have a pretty small area.

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Destinations are within walking and biking distance.

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The city is nearly completely covered with sidewalks

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in the 90s for the percentile of coverage.

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You have the inner urban trail that goes through

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that forms a nice backbone of our bicycle network.

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So there's a lot of opportunity here.

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But even with that opportunity,

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there are a lot of people that either don't walk

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bike or roll or because they don't feel safe

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or comfortable or just feel that driving

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is the easier option.

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All of those concerns and experiences are completely valid,

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but as part of port moves, we're really looking

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for the projects, programs, and policies

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that can make it easier, safer, and more fun

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for people of all ages and abilities

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to walk, bike, and roll around port.

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But before you think this was a plan just devised

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by Rob, Roger, and me in our cubicles,

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I want you to realize that we did do quite a bit

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of community engagement as part of this plan.

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So this slide shows the variety of engagement that we did.

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We have a steering committee that we've met with regularly

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throughout the plan.

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We started the planning effort with some city staff interviews

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to talk with the police chief, Parks and Rec,

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and other and maintenance staff to figure out

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kind of what their concerns are about walking

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and biking and port.

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We hosted a group walk where we talked about infrastructure

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here in port and what might be done in the future.

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and then also an online map and survey.

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The online map and survey and the pop-up events

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were where we received most of the comments.

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We talked to about 350 port Washington residents

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through those two options.

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So a really good swath of folks for this.

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So working with the existing conditions here in port,

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what we got from the community

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and also best practices from across the country,

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we created a vision for the plan that's up here on the slide.

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So the vision is that port Washington is a place

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where residents and visitors of all ages,

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abilities and backgrounds choose to walk, bike or roll

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because it is safe, comfortable,

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or safe, convenient, accessible and enjoyable.

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that as we go through the plan,

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we try to tie back all of our recommendations

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in order to meet this vision.

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Dissecting the vision a little bit more,

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we created six goals.

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And while these goals are unique to port Washington,

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I also want to let you know that a lot of these goals

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are pretty typical of active transportation plans

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across the country.

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And really in the narrative for all these goals

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is where we tied it specifically to the port experience.

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So the goals are around safety, health and environment,

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network connectivity, mode shift, economic development,

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and equity and accessibility.

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All things that we know a better developed bike

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and pedestrian network can bring to a city.

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Once we had our vision and goals,

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we started putting together our recommendations.

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The first set of recommendations was around a network.

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And we have three networks in our recommendations.

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The first which is shown here to the left are the sidewalks.

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As I said before, port has a pretty solid network

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of sidewalks already happening.

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are places where we're either filling in gaps

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or in many cases it's where sidewalks are only

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on one side of the street.

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it's putting on the plan that we want to sidewalk

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eventually on the other side of the street,

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probably when redevelopment happens.

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The middle network there is the bicycle network.

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This is probably the most involved network

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and has many sorts of facilities on it.

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So it has bike lanes, it has multi-use trails,

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it has side paths, it has shared markings.

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There's a whole variety of bicycle facilities.

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And within the plan, port moves,

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there's a description of each facility type

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and why we chose that for the specific roadways.

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based on the amount of vehicles that are on a road,

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the speed of vehicles, the width of the road,

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the current on or off street parking nearby.

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into selecting the bicycle facility.

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And then the third network is the pedestrian improvement areas.

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And pedestrian improvement areas are quarter mile circles

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around what we would call pedestrian generators.

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of pedestrians to them for various reasons.

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the library and parks are the main areas,

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just places that we would expect more people

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to be walking and biking.

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And what these pedestrian improvements areas are,

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FYI to staff that if projects happen around these areas,

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they should be bringing it up to another level

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for pedestrian connectivity and safety,

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knowing that hopefully more pedestrians

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will be in these spaces.

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we created the near term network.

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So in the plan, you'll see that we have timeframes

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for our networks to help kind of prioritize

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and help target the city team on what should come first.

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So here we have the near term network.

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So these are the projects we want to happen first.

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There are a variety of reasons for these.

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The main ones are that either A,

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they popped up a lot in community conversations.

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And so these are kind of high need,

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high interest projects.

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And then the other two are more around opportunity.

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So some of these projects are on roads

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that are already on the capital improvement plan

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that we know that these roads are going to be repaved,

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resurfaced or reconstructed in the near future.

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And so we want to take those opportunities

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to put in infrastructure while there's action happening

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on the street versus having to go back

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and do something later.

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The other reason why something might pop up on this network

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is that it's kind of low hanging fruit.

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So this would happen mostly with the bike boulevard system.

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And bike boulevards are a system of streets

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that we direct bicyclists and pedestrians to.

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And we use various traffic calming to kind of tell drivers

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that they should expect bicyclists.

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for folks of all ages and abilities.

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This usually just consists of some signing

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and maybe some share of painting on the ground.

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So once again, a pretty low lift,

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which is why it's on that near term network.

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Along with the projects,

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we also have policy and program recommendations.

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These are actions and different kind of systemic things

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that the city could be doing in order to encourage

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bicycling and walking around the city more.

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With each of these policy and program recommendations,

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we do also identify partners.

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There's very little that the city can do without partners.

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And so we want to make sure that those partners

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are identified and involved as these policies

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and programs move forward.

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And as you can see,

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we also have these put into the three terms short,

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medium and long to help city staff

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and partners focus their energy.

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So that was a very high level overview of the plan.

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And I would encourage you to look into it more

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and definitely feel free to follow up with Rob,

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Roger or myself if you have any further questions.

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But the main next steps here of this plan is today,

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we're here at the Board of Public Works

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for you all to review

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and hopefully gain approval to move forward.

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We will be at the Common Council on May 5th.

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And then after that is really when the action starts,

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when implementation starts

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with those near term projects

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and those short term policy and program recommendations.

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So with that, I'd just like to thank the city

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for allowing us to work on this project.

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It truly has been a delight to work with these guys

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for the last couple of years

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and a really fun project,

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especially seeing the potential that's here in port.

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So I'm excited to see this stuff start to hit the ground.

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So with that, I will open it up to any questions.

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I'm ready.

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So among the groups that you speak with B3?

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With B3, yes.

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Is that the business?

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That is a local group that bikes.

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They're a bike group and they exercise

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and they run around town and...

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Rob, do you know if anybody?

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So on the first page of this, we have our steering committee.

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I don't know if anybody on that steering committee

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was Adam on that committee?

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I thought Adam would be in that group?

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I'd have to double.

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I guess now that the plan is coming out,

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I mean, I did post it on Facebook.

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I did get some response.

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I mean, I've talked to people who bike,

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I ride any bike.

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Some of the things I've seen in the plan,

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I didn't know this was even happening.

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Okay.

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And so, I mean, that's probably my bad.

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I wasn't paying attention.

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But I do think we should open it up for more comments

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because I do feel like while 350 people

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may sound like a lot,

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I don't think that is a lot for our community.

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And I really dislike the idea of any path

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being on Highway 32 or Highway 33.

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And many of our paths are like that here.

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So I don't think it's ready for prime time just yet.

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I know you put a lot of work in it.

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I'm not trying to dismiss that.

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But I do think we need more community input on this.

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And I think it would behoove us not to,

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I know you feel done

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and you've probably beaten this thing with it

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as long as you can.

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But I don't know if everyone's really done with it,

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including myself.

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Yeah, I think that's fair.

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And one thing to note about kind of our schedule on this

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is actually the plan has been pretty much in this forum

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for about the last nine to 10 months.

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So our engagement really happened over a year ago.

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So if you've been kind of looking for engagement opportunities

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for the last year, it hasn't really happened.

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I hear there's been other exciting stuff happening

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in Port Washington that's taken up much of the public attention.

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And so there hasn't, you're right,

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there hasn't been much engagement recently.

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One thing that we do have is you'll see on the inside

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of the board, actually we can get you a copy.

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We have our steering committee members.

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And so we try to get a wide variety of people

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that represent different interests

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and have different knowledge throughout the town,

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including the businesses, the school districts,

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a good variety of folks.

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And the plan has gone back out to them in this forum

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for comment.

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And so that's in their hands now.

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And Rob, I think you gave them a couple of weeks.

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So we would get comments from them

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before we went to council.

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Yeah, right.

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I think one of the things that I'm proud of

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and we're unique to this project.

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So we, public engagement on this project

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has probably been a larger part of this project

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than probably any other project I've worked on.

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And so as Sarah suggested, when we started this project,

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she said, we can add public information meetings,

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which we have for most of our projects.

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And you're going to get a specific genre coming

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to these meetings.

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So let's go out and let's meet the people where they are.

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So we had our public engagement where we had these pop-ups,

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like at the beer garden and down at the farmers market.

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And then we had yard signs.

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And I think, well, it's in the book.

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I don't know if it's made it into your plan.

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And here's one of our committee members here, Hi, Kit.

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So we did, we had yard signs everywhere,

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trying to engage people.

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We had, of course, on our websites,

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trying to get people to give us feedback.

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So other than going door to door,

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I'm not sure what more we could have done

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to bring out city engagement.

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And not everyone's going to see the signs.

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Right, right.

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So I'm not like, I'm sad that some people missed it.

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But we did.

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It's just it's going to be in the newspaper now.

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And I don't want it coming back to us

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that we did not engage with our constituents.

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So that's what I'm saying,

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because that's what I've been hearing.

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I definitely think that delay is challenging the delay

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from when the engagement was to city council.

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And so it does seem a little frickish

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for the last year.

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Because we've narrowed all of our streets now

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to try and slow down traffic,

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which we need to do in our city.

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But where the streets were wider,

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that would have been an opportunity

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to put in a dedicated bike lane.

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So now I feel like we might have to undo what we've done

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just to connect.

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And it's important.

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I mean, you don't see kids riding their bikes to school

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like they used to, because it's not safe

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because they run up and down Northport

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and all of the other, hold in,

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and all of the other major streets.

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And getting out onto 32,

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when they leave the high school,

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you're putting your life in your hands,

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especially if you're walking.

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I've been almost hit there.

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So I don't want to talk about it forever.

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I want to get stuff done.

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But I do think we should entertain

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a little bit more time with it.

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And I definitely encourage you to grab a copy of the plan.

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I don't know, Rob, were you able to send out a link?

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Yeah.

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I read it.

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I read it.

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Okay, yeah.

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And the plan is available on the website.

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Because one of the other things

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that I think is important to note about the designs

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is that this is a planning level document, right?

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Exactly.

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And so really what this plan is most about

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is identifying the locations that need improvements.

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And then once we move forward on those locations,

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that's when we really nail down with the engineering,

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like what actually makes sense here?

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That's when we're doing the traffic counts,

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the turning counts and all of that.

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So with this plan, I think it definitely is more of a,

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what are those hotspot locations?

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And the ones that you mentioned are all on there as

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Exactly.

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On locations.

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Exactly.

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So I think that's a good first step.

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Yes, definitely.

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I think we have a lot more work to do.

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So thank you.

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Thank you.

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Do you want to speak to that?

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Well, to having first seen this late last week,

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I kind of agree with all the room in Miller

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that we should have some more time.

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I have some comments on this too

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that I'd like to at least have considered

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before we vote to approve it.

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I don't want to vote to approve it

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and then start sticking comments onto it later.

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So coming tonight that really we've only seen this

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for a few days and then voting on it seems to me

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to be a little bit premature.

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But to address some of older woman Miller's comments

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about narrowing the roads and the opportunities

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for bike lanes, those streets that we've been narrowing

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by and large do not have a traffic volume

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that would make it that you'd even want to put

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a bike lane on it.

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But I want them off the main streets.

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I don't want to argue, you know,

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and we want to do the parallels as opposed to the mains.

436
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Yeah, but if you have a parallel street,

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you could do this a share or something like that.

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If it's a street that only has 700 vehicles a day on it

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or 500 vehicles a day or less,

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putting a bike lane on it is kind of pointless.

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It doesn't have enough traffic

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to really warrant any benefit out of it.

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And plus you're going to lose parking

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and I'm sure your constituents will be really happy

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to lose the parking pass their houses too.

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Many have alleys, they can use their alley.

447
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Yes, that actually is one of my comments that I have

448
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on here on the proposed network too.

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First, real quick, there's a couple of colors

450
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that are so close to each other

451
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that you really can't tell what they are

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when you print it yourself.

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Like a bike lane and a buffered bike lane

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or a, was it a, to a shared use path versus a side path

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are also very difficult to tell.

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But in some areas like where we show putting a bike lane

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on Grand Avenue West of Spring Street,

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that's going through a few blocks of areas with alleys.

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And if we lose the parking in order to put in a bike lane,

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people there because they have an alley in the back

461
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don't really have any additional parking

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unless they start parking down the side road

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and that is not going to be a popular,

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or a popular choice to close their parking

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in front of their homes.

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They may not use it a lot,

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but they will be upset when it's gone,

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saying like a restricted lane is,

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I think would probably be better in that area.

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But anyway, like I said, I have some other comments too

471
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on it and I don't think we want to hash through

472
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every one of my comments tonight.

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I'd like to just address two of those things.

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One is the parking discussion.

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This is always, this is always a hot topic, right?

476
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And I think that this is kind of a fundamental decision

477
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that cities have to make of where they value

478
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or how they value the right of way

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if they want to use it for metal storage

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or if they want to prioritize it

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for various type of metal movement.

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And those are challenging conversations.

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What I have found in the past is that

484
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the fear of change is much worse

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than once something happens.

486
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And so when we thought about that near term network,

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there are some parts of that near term network

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that might need some parking removal.

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And I'd like to encourage you to think of those

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as kind of test case scenarios and pilot projects

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to see if they work.

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Because I think if a couple of projects are successful,

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people see them, people get used to them,

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there will be a lot more benefit in the future

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and people will just kind of come around

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if those work correctly.

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And so really thinking of these near term projects,

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more pilot projects, might be a more digestible way

499
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to think of it.

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The other thing I want to talk about

501
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is just the street narrowing and or not narrowing

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and then having space for the bike lane.

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One thing that is often challenging for us

504
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in communities like Port Washington

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is when you have that bike lane space on the road

506
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and you may not have a ton of bicyclists,

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the visual it gives drivers is that it's just a wider road

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and they're going to go faster.

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And so decreasing that roadway,

510
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even if that means that the bicyclist may be

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in the lane with vehicles is often safer for bicyclists

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because that wider space just implies that you can go fast.

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And on roadways that are wider or have larger traffic,

514
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those are really streets where biking in a bike lane

515
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is probably not comfortable for most folks.

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And so I have two kids in elementary school.

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There are many streets around our home

518
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that I will not bike with them on,

519
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even though it does have a bike lane.

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And there's many streets with no bike lanes

521
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that I feel perfectly fine with them

522
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in the middle of the street.

523
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So many of those kind of bike lane

524
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or, you know, share-o experiences

525
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are much more tied to the vehicles on that street per day

526
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in the speeds versus actually the width.

527
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So another thing to addressing a comment

528
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from Alderman Miller about kids not riding the bike

529
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so much these days.

530
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I would argue some of that comes out

531
00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:20,940
of our local school districts policies

532
00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:24,060
which discourage kids from riding bikes.

533
00:23:24,060 --> 00:23:26,660
They will not allow third graders or younger

534
00:23:26,660 --> 00:23:29,860
to ride their bike to school because I don't know,

535
00:23:29,860 --> 00:23:32,340
they might accidentally bike in twist rangers house

536
00:23:32,340 --> 00:23:33,180
or something.

537
00:23:33,860 --> 00:23:36,500
It's a weird policy to me.

538
00:23:36,500 --> 00:23:40,700
When I was in first grade, I could bike to school

539
00:23:40,700 --> 00:23:43,140
and it was fine, but today it's scarier

540
00:23:43,140 --> 00:23:45,060
even though crime is lower.

541
00:23:45,060 --> 00:23:49,780
So I think some of that's coming off of other policies

542
00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:51,020
too that are not good.

543
00:23:51,020 --> 00:23:52,860
There's also the argument, you know,

544
00:23:52,860 --> 00:23:55,620
Port Washington was famously the first city in the state

545
00:23:55,620 --> 00:23:58,060
to have a helmet requirement.

546
00:23:58,060 --> 00:24:00,260
There are some studies that indicate

547
00:24:00,260 --> 00:24:03,740
that on an overall societal health perspective

548
00:24:03,740 --> 00:24:06,380
that might actually be counterproductive

549
00:24:06,380 --> 00:24:10,340
because there are kids who just won't bike

550
00:24:10,340 --> 00:24:11,980
if they have to wear a helmet.

551
00:24:11,980 --> 00:24:14,020
And if you don't get them into the habit of biking,

552
00:24:14,020 --> 00:24:15,380
they never really get into it.

553
00:24:15,380 --> 00:24:18,580
And overall, a society health results are worse

554
00:24:18,580 --> 00:24:23,020
even considering the unfortunate somebody bashes their head in

555
00:24:24,580 --> 00:24:25,740
because they don't have a helmet.

556
00:24:25,740 --> 00:24:29,860
But it's one of those things that kind

557
00:24:29,860 --> 00:24:34,100
of counterintuitively might be discouraging biking.

558
00:24:35,500 --> 00:24:36,980
Or I don't know if it's counterintuitive,

559
00:24:36,980 --> 00:24:38,340
but some studies have indicated

560
00:24:38,340 --> 00:24:40,100
that it may be discouraging biking.

561
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:42,980
So that's something that I really didn't see much in here too

562
00:24:42,980 --> 00:24:45,780
was other policies like that locally

563
00:24:45,780 --> 00:24:47,580
that we should be, you know,

564
00:24:47,580 --> 00:24:49,380
I'm not gonna say that we should encourage

565
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:50,980
just get rid of our helmet law,

566
00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:54,300
but should we be doing more to encourage the schools

567
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:56,500
to encourage kids to bike?

568
00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:59,300
Because that's part of the thing that we run into

569
00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:01,180
that makes more traffic particularly

570
00:25:01,180 --> 00:25:03,180
on those morning and afternoon peaks

571
00:25:03,180 --> 00:25:06,780
is if everybody, and bus service is not what it used to be

572
00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:08,660
either and you see a lot more parents

573
00:25:08,660 --> 00:25:10,900
individually driving their kids to school

574
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:12,940
rather than kids that walk or bike.

575
00:25:12,940 --> 00:25:15,900
And are those policies that we really need to work

576
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:20,420
with the school district on in order to try to better

577
00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:22,700
the bike ability of the city

578
00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:25,900
because it would also, if more kids bike to school,

579
00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:28,740
it lowers the traffic on our streets at the same time.

580
00:25:29,380 --> 00:25:31,860
So yes, yes, yes, yes.

581
00:25:31,860 --> 00:25:33,780
And a couple of those things.

582
00:25:33,780 --> 00:25:36,340
So in the programs and policy recommendations

583
00:25:36,340 --> 00:25:40,180
in this plan, there is one that's around doing

584
00:25:40,180 --> 00:25:42,420
a safe routes to school plan.

585
00:25:42,420 --> 00:25:45,580
So that would involve doing education, encouragement,

586
00:25:45,580 --> 00:25:47,820
kind of culture change programs around schools.

587
00:25:47,820 --> 00:25:49,420
Cause like I said before, you know,

588
00:25:49,420 --> 00:25:53,020
most kids in Port Washington live within two miles

589
00:25:53,020 --> 00:25:53,980
of their school.

590
00:25:53,980 --> 00:25:56,140
And in many cases that's considered bikeable.

591
00:25:56,140 --> 00:25:58,940
But when the culture is that we drive our kids to school

592
00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:02,460
then everybody just keeps doing that culture.

593
00:26:02,460 --> 00:26:05,940
And so really a safe routes to school program,

594
00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:09,140
I think could help change the conversation and expectations

595
00:26:09,140 --> 00:26:11,540
about what's the normal way to get to school in Port.

596
00:26:11,540 --> 00:26:13,980
And so that is one of the recommendations.

597
00:26:13,980 --> 00:26:18,220
We also have some reviews of kind of city bike policies.

598
00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:20,220
One of the other ones besides,

599
00:26:20,220 --> 00:26:22,180
we didn't touch the helmet one,

600
00:26:22,180 --> 00:26:25,100
but another one that's on there is that all bikes

601
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:27,740
are supposed to be registered with the police department,

602
00:26:27,740 --> 00:26:29,740
her Port Washington code.

603
00:26:29,740 --> 00:26:33,020
The police chief didn't know about that.

604
00:26:33,020 --> 00:26:35,580
So like it's not one that's being enforced.

605
00:26:35,580 --> 00:26:37,420
And many communities in Wisconsin

606
00:26:37,420 --> 00:26:39,700
and throughout the country have that same,

607
00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:41,500
like you must register your bike,

608
00:26:41,500 --> 00:26:43,020
but nobody's doing it.

609
00:26:43,020 --> 00:26:43,860
It's not useful.

610
00:26:43,860 --> 00:26:47,580
And if it was something that was really going to be enforced,

611
00:26:47,580 --> 00:26:51,420
it could restrict people who want to be biking

612
00:26:51,420 --> 00:26:53,100
and should be biking from biking

613
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:54,900
because of fear of enforcement.

614
00:26:55,260 --> 00:26:57,780
And so we do have a couple of recommendations

615
00:26:57,780 --> 00:26:59,820
about kind of greater bike policies

616
00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:02,660
that might be restricting or discouraging folks

617
00:27:02,660 --> 00:27:03,540
from biking now.

618
00:27:05,460 --> 00:27:06,300
One final comment.

619
00:27:06,300 --> 00:27:10,380
I do want to thank you for putting in the multi-mobility

620
00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:12,060
for those who are in wheelchairs

621
00:27:12,060 --> 00:27:17,060
and are other ways of getting places in their own devices.

622
00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:20,260
I think that's good that we should keep that in the back

623
00:27:20,260 --> 00:27:22,460
of our head because we do have a lot of people

624
00:27:22,460 --> 00:27:24,740
in our community that are in wheelchairs.

625
00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:26,340
I need that.

626
00:27:26,340 --> 00:27:27,180
Thank you.

627
00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:28,020
You're welcome.

628
00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:31,220
I just have one comment.

629
00:27:31,220 --> 00:27:33,540
Is there, what's the downside to tabling this

630
00:27:33,540 --> 00:27:35,380
and voting at the next meeting?

631
00:27:35,380 --> 00:27:36,940
Is there anything that's going to be implemented

632
00:27:36,940 --> 00:27:37,780
in the near future?

633
00:27:37,780 --> 00:27:40,020
Just like, I know Nick was looking forward to seeing this.

634
00:27:40,020 --> 00:27:41,740
And I think a few of us have voiced

635
00:27:41,740 --> 00:27:44,340
just concern of wanting a bit more time to review.

636
00:27:44,340 --> 00:27:45,860
And that obviously don't want to hold things up

637
00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:47,260
but just want to understand,

638
00:27:47,260 --> 00:27:49,340
are there any items that are planned

639
00:27:49,340 --> 00:27:51,540
and being implemented in the very near future?

640
00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:53,740
And what the downside would be to tabling this

641
00:27:53,820 --> 00:27:54,940
for the next session?

642
00:27:56,020 --> 00:27:58,100
So we can table this to the next meeting

643
00:27:58,100 --> 00:27:59,020
and that would be fine.

644
00:27:59,020 --> 00:28:03,620
I guess I would just ask that everyone submit their comments

645
00:28:03,620 --> 00:28:05,860
to me in the next couple of weeks

646
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:08,420
and then we can address those

647
00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:10,900
and then bring that to our next meeting

648
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:14,340
if there's any discussion that needs to be had on any of those.

649
00:28:14,340 --> 00:28:17,260
So hopefully we can just address everyone's comments

650
00:28:17,260 --> 00:28:19,580
individually and we'll report on that.

651
00:28:19,580 --> 00:28:20,580
But yeah, we can bring it back

652
00:28:20,580 --> 00:28:21,820
to the next Board of Public Works,

653
00:28:21,820 --> 00:28:24,980
each will be May 12th, I think.

654
00:28:24,980 --> 00:28:28,420
And then hopefully we'd be able to take it

655
00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:31,700
to the council meeting immediately

656
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:33,860
after Board of Public Works.

657
00:28:33,860 --> 00:28:36,980
So we could still get it approved in May.

658
00:28:37,820 --> 00:28:41,540
Our deadline for the grant, I think is the end of June.

659
00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:44,700
Yep, so yeah, our grant ends June 30th.

660
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:48,260
So we'd like to finish it before June 30th.

661
00:28:48,260 --> 00:28:53,260
All right, any other questions or comments?

662
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:56,500
If not, I will entertain a motion.

663
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:01,540
I'll motion to table this until our meeting.

664
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:03,940
Microphone.

665
00:29:05,460 --> 00:29:08,900
I motion to table this matter until our May meeting, May 12th.

666
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:11,380
All right, we have a motion on the floor to table this

667
00:29:11,380 --> 00:29:13,780
till the May 12th meeting, is there a second?

668
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:16,700
I'll second that.

669
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:18,340
Now we have a second.

670
00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:20,740
Any discussion on the motion?

671
00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:23,060
Seeing none, all those in favor, say aye.

672
00:29:23,060 --> 00:29:23,900
Aye.

673
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:24,740
Opposed?

674
00:29:24,740 --> 00:29:25,580
Motion carries.

675
00:29:26,980 --> 00:29:28,340
All right, thank you.

676
00:29:28,340 --> 00:29:29,180
Thank you.

677
00:29:30,220 --> 00:29:33,460
That moves us on to item five.

678
00:29:33,460 --> 00:29:37,940
Presentation on 60% design plans for Valley Creek.

679
00:29:37,940 --> 00:29:38,780
Okay.

680
00:29:44,780 --> 00:29:46,980
I think you guys have been spending about a day a week here

681
00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:48,460
for last month or two.

682
00:29:48,460 --> 00:29:50,300
I feel like I was just here.

683
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:52,620
In fact, I look to see if I had notes still here.

684
00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:53,460
Yeah.

685
00:29:57,060 --> 00:29:59,220
Let's see if I can do presentation here.

686
00:30:00,820 --> 00:30:01,660
Did you wanna say something?

687
00:30:01,660 --> 00:30:03,980
Yeah, I don't know if I need to introduce these guys anymore,

688
00:30:03,980 --> 00:30:06,260
but yeah, this is Melissa Kern and Heather Swar

689
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:07,420
from Stantech.

690
00:30:07,420 --> 00:30:10,980
They are part of the team that is working

691
00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:14,340
on the Valley Creek design.

692
00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:20,980
In October, they appeared before Board of Public Works

693
00:30:20,980 --> 00:30:22,780
to present the 30% plan.

694
00:30:22,780 --> 00:30:27,780
So we completed the 60% plans at the end of March.

695
00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:30,380
And so they're here to present that to you.

696
00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:34,980
And we are on the road to full complete 90% completion,

697
00:30:34,980 --> 00:30:36,900
excuse me, by the end of May.

698
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:41,900
And so if after watching the presentation today,

699
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:44,820
you have any questions, certainly get those to me

700
00:30:44,820 --> 00:30:46,500
and we'll make sure that they get answered

701
00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:50,460
so that we can address any questions you have

702
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:52,980
before the next time that they present.

703
00:30:53,860 --> 00:30:54,700
Thank you, Rob.

704
00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:55,660
So just again, I'm Melissa.

705
00:30:55,660 --> 00:30:57,780
I've been here many times presenting on this project.

706
00:30:57,780 --> 00:31:00,340
I've actually been with Rob since the beginning.

707
00:31:00,340 --> 00:31:02,340
My role is really working on the visioning

708
00:31:02,340 --> 00:31:04,060
and the funding side of this project.

709
00:31:04,060 --> 00:31:05,580
Heather's gonna do most of the talking.

710
00:31:05,580 --> 00:31:07,380
She's the engineer on the project.

711
00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:09,700
But first, I'd like to just talk a little bit

712
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:11,700
about updates on funding.

713
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:15,460
So you guys know that we did secure the two large grants

714
00:31:15,460 --> 00:31:18,140
to fund the design work up to the 90% design.

715
00:31:18,140 --> 00:31:20,620
So that's what's funding our current scope of work.

716
00:31:20,620 --> 00:31:23,740
In addition to that, we do actually have some grant funds

717
00:31:23,740 --> 00:31:25,540
to do some ecological restoration

718
00:31:25,540 --> 00:31:28,580
in the parks along Valley Creek.

719
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:31,220
So we're planting trees next week at Birchwood

720
00:31:31,220 --> 00:31:33,260
and upper Lake Park.

721
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:34,460
So I just wanna let you guys know

722
00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:36,340
that there is kind of work happening

723
00:31:36,340 --> 00:31:38,980
sort of in prep for this much larger project.

724
00:31:38,980 --> 00:31:40,540
But then I'd like to fast forward a little bit

725
00:31:40,540 --> 00:31:41,940
and give you an update on where we're at

726
00:31:41,940 --> 00:31:44,180
with the construction funding.

727
00:31:44,180 --> 00:31:49,180
So I list them here at the top is the TID number five funding

728
00:31:49,580 --> 00:31:53,140
which had been approved as part of that package.

729
00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:57,540
So that's roughly $10 million of which has been allocated

730
00:31:57,540 --> 00:31:59,820
to the stream restoration project.

731
00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:04,260
Then there is the private contribution from vantage

732
00:32:04,260 --> 00:32:06,940
and the amount of about 2.4 million.

733
00:32:06,940 --> 00:32:10,380
And that's been earmarked solely for construction.

734
00:32:10,380 --> 00:32:15,380
And then we did apply for a DNR recreational trails grant

735
00:32:15,860 --> 00:32:20,020
for around $100,000 to replace

736
00:32:20,020 --> 00:32:23,420
or to actually construct a bridge at the mouth

737
00:32:23,420 --> 00:32:24,540
with Lake Michigan.

738
00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:25,900
You guys have an existing trail

739
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,740
that obviously goes over the culverts that is there.

740
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:31,220
But once the culvert is gone,

741
00:32:31,220 --> 00:32:32,900
we will need to put a bridge there.

742
00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,140
So there's a small amount of money

743
00:32:35,140 --> 00:32:37,860
that could fund just that project alone.

744
00:32:37,860 --> 00:32:42,500
And we did apply for discretionary congressional funding

745
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:44,700
in the amount of about $4 million.

746
00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:47,460
I don't know the process I'm hearing back from that, Rob.

747
00:32:47,460 --> 00:32:49,460
Do you know, is that several months out?

748
00:32:55,380 --> 00:32:56,220
Yeah.

749
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:58,700
Okay.

750
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:00,980
So they did ask for a requested amount

751
00:33:00,980 --> 00:33:02,980
and then a minimum amount.

752
00:33:02,980 --> 00:33:05,020
So I did put $4 million as the requested amount

753
00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:07,700
but said we would accept up to $1.5 million.

754
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:10,020
So I let them know that certainly,

755
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:12,620
you know, just about any amount we would take.

756
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:16,540
We did submit a National Fish and Wildlife Foundation grant

757
00:33:16,540 --> 00:33:19,180
through the National Coastal Resiliency Fund

758
00:33:19,180 --> 00:33:22,500
in the amount of $6.35 million.

759
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,060
That is a pre-proposal we should find out

760
00:33:25,060 --> 00:33:28,180
in a couple weeks if we're invited for a full proposal.

761
00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:29,860
That would get submitted in July.

762
00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:30,980
So it'll be a really good sign

763
00:33:30,980 --> 00:33:33,020
if we do get invited for the full proposal.

764
00:33:33,020 --> 00:33:35,940
And that same amount of money or that same program

765
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:38,220
is what's funding the current design.

766
00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:40,740
And they do like to fund these pipeline projects.

767
00:33:40,740 --> 00:33:43,300
So this particular program invests in the planning.

768
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:44,460
The thought is that they invest

769
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:46,100
in the implementation as well.

770
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:49,580
So it's, they call it their pipeline projects.

771
00:33:49,580 --> 00:33:52,660
And then tomorrow we are submitting AD and our grant

772
00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:55,980
under their targeted runoff management grant program

773
00:33:55,980 --> 00:33:58,540
for a little over $200,000.

774
00:33:58,540 --> 00:34:01,340
That's going to fund some of the stormwater improvements

775
00:34:01,340 --> 00:34:04,380
that are associated with the stream restoration.

776
00:34:04,380 --> 00:34:06,300
So if we were to get all of this money

777
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:07,460
and the amounts requested,

778
00:34:07,460 --> 00:34:09,780
I think we would have a really healthy amount

779
00:34:09,780 --> 00:34:12,580
to fund a large portion of the construction phase

780
00:34:12,580 --> 00:34:13,420
of this project.

781
00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:14,980
It is quite possible that some of them

782
00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:16,740
come back with lower amounts

783
00:34:16,740 --> 00:34:18,940
or we don't get funded for some of them.

784
00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:19,780
That's okay.

785
00:34:19,780 --> 00:34:22,020
We can always reapply many of these opportunities

786
00:34:22,020 --> 00:34:23,780
come around every year.

787
00:34:23,780 --> 00:34:26,220
If we don't get it, we always learn really valuable lessons

788
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:29,380
and we adjust and hopefully put a stronger application forward.

789
00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:31,540
There's always the chance that,

790
00:34:31,540 --> 00:34:33,020
or always the opportunity rather

791
00:34:33,020 --> 00:34:36,140
that we can construct this project in phases.

792
00:34:36,140 --> 00:34:40,060
So, once we're done with the design or this between now

793
00:34:40,060 --> 00:34:41,940
and when we get to the 90% design,

794
00:34:41,940 --> 00:34:43,900
those are going to be discussions we have

795
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:46,780
with the city about what phase of this project

796
00:34:46,780 --> 00:34:48,820
is really important to move forward now

797
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:50,500
and what portion of the project

798
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:51,980
could we build at a later time.

799
00:34:51,980 --> 00:34:55,100
So, I'm not too worried about getting all the money

800
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:57,740
at one time, if need be, we'll just work in phases

801
00:34:57,740 --> 00:34:59,700
and we'll work really closely with you guys

802
00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:01,460
and what you want to prioritize.

803
00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:04,580
And I think with that,

804
00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:06,300
I'm going to turn it over to Heather

805
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:09,300
to give you an update on the 60% design.

806
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:13,860
Hi everybody.

807
00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:17,940
As Rob said in October, we presented the 30% design.

808
00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:20,580
My coworker, Pat Philbin, was here to do that presentation.

809
00:35:20,580 --> 00:35:22,940
So, if you think back to October,

810
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:27,620
lots of figures that showed more conceptual design,

811
00:35:27,620 --> 00:35:28,860
ideas was presented, right?

812
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:30,380
They had more pretty pictures.

813
00:35:30,380 --> 00:35:33,380
Well, since then, the engineers have taken over

814
00:35:33,380 --> 00:35:35,300
and we like to put together our plan sets.

815
00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,540
And so, I'm not going to go through page by page.

816
00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:39,140
It's over 60 pages long.

817
00:35:40,140 --> 00:35:41,500
Rob has a link to it.

818
00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:43,060
If you want to share that with them,

819
00:35:43,060 --> 00:35:45,180
let me know, I know we're going to go through the comments.

820
00:35:45,180 --> 00:35:47,620
But today, I wanted to be kind of a higher level here

821
00:35:48,980 --> 00:35:52,260
and emphasize this is the upper reach of the project.

822
00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:53,700
When we presented the 30%,

823
00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,980
we didn't show anything upstream of Norport Drive.

824
00:35:56,980 --> 00:36:00,260
We concentrated on Norport down to Lake Street.

825
00:36:00,260 --> 00:36:02,660
And today, I'm going to highlight a little bit of the work

826
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:05,580
for stream bank stabilization upstream in Norport Drive.

827
00:36:05,580 --> 00:36:07,420
That's one of the changes that you'll see in the plan set

828
00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:08,980
from 30 to 60%.

829
00:36:10,020 --> 00:36:11,580
All the things that we have done

830
00:36:11,580 --> 00:36:14,780
is we've added in more details regarding the stream structures,

831
00:36:14,780 --> 00:36:17,580
the Norport and hails trail bridge refinements,

832
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:20,900
some grading details, seating and planting plans.

833
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:22,300
Those are things that I'll show you

834
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:24,140
a couple pictures of them.

835
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:27,740
And we've also added or significantly changed

836
00:36:27,740 --> 00:36:30,300
some elements of the design since the 30%.

837
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:32,060
And you guys are well aware of the one

838
00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:33,980
that I'm going to highlight today, of course, is Lake Street.

839
00:36:33,980 --> 00:36:35,500
So when we met a month ago,

840
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:38,220
we asked you guys about putting something forward

841
00:36:38,220 --> 00:36:39,420
as far as a bigger daylighting.

842
00:36:39,420 --> 00:36:42,500
And you'll see an image in a little while here

843
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:45,980
that's an update to that since we last talked.

844
00:36:45,980 --> 00:36:48,340
So this is the downstream reach, just remind everybody.

845
00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:50,420
And this is where that Lake Street change has happened.

846
00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:52,180
But the overall stream alignment

847
00:36:52,180 --> 00:36:55,940
of what you saw for 30% to 60% really hasn't changed much,

848
00:36:55,940 --> 00:36:57,900
just been a little bit more refined.

849
00:36:58,780 --> 00:37:03,220
So let's just talk about some overall stream cross sections.

850
00:37:03,220 --> 00:37:07,180
And then I'm going to go into the stream bank's north

851
00:37:07,180 --> 00:37:09,940
of Norport and then I'll go into the regenerative stormwater

852
00:37:09,940 --> 00:37:12,020
conveyances, like I said, the bridges,

853
00:37:12,020 --> 00:37:12,940
including Lake Street.

854
00:37:12,940 --> 00:37:15,580
And then I'll show you the vegetation plans.

855
00:37:15,580 --> 00:37:19,220
So as you know, we're proposing a series of pools

856
00:37:19,220 --> 00:37:22,060
and riffles throughout the Valley Creek corridor.

857
00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:23,580
Here's an example of the refinements

858
00:37:23,580 --> 00:37:26,300
that we've made to the typical riffle cross sections.

859
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:29,140
We've added in just more details on the side slopes.

860
00:37:29,140 --> 00:37:31,260
The amount of floodplain we're going to have.

861
00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:32,580
We've been refining it back and forth

862
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:35,300
with our hydraulic modeling for conveyance purposes.

863
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,180
And just the sizing of riffle material

864
00:37:37,180 --> 00:37:38,540
has just been adjusted.

865
00:37:38,540 --> 00:37:40,380
So the cross section shouldn't look too different

866
00:37:40,380 --> 00:37:43,500
from what you saw, but it just has more of the numbers

867
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:45,060
have been figured out that you'd see in the plans

868
00:37:45,060 --> 00:37:47,980
if you look on the detail of each and every cross section.

869
00:37:47,980 --> 00:37:51,300
And same thing with the typical pool section, right?

870
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,780
We've updated the depths and the elevations

871
00:37:53,780 --> 00:37:55,700
that actually these would be done.

872
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:58,380
And so I'm just going to show you one page from the plan set.

873
00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:01,540
I just cut a section out so you could see one of the pages.

874
00:38:01,540 --> 00:38:04,060
So for example, in this bend of the river,

875
00:38:04,060 --> 00:38:06,260
the refinements are to the dimensions of the pools

876
00:38:06,260 --> 00:38:08,620
and riffles, and then we updated the channel profile.

877
00:38:08,620 --> 00:38:10,700
So I don't think those profiles look like that

878
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:11,700
when you saw 30%.

879
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:14,540
So since then we've added in the elevations,

880
00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:16,620
each and every riffle, we figured out

881
00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:18,580
what the proper elevation should be,

882
00:38:18,580 --> 00:38:20,340
what the slope on each one should be,

883
00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:22,980
from a hydraulic standpoint, from fishery standpoint,

884
00:38:22,980 --> 00:38:25,860
from just the overall grade of the channel.

885
00:38:25,860 --> 00:38:28,340
So that has really been refined.

886
00:38:28,340 --> 00:38:30,860
But overall, there really hasn't been any,

887
00:38:30,860 --> 00:38:32,620
what I would call significant changes

888
00:38:32,620 --> 00:38:34,380
to completing of the stream design.

889
00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:35,740
It's just been more refined.

890
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:42,020
But what is new in the 60% is the inclusion of that area

891
00:38:42,020 --> 00:38:43,420
north of Northport Drive.

892
00:38:43,420 --> 00:38:46,740
So in February, and I remember it's February

893
00:38:46,740 --> 00:38:48,700
because there was still quite a bit of ice out there,

894
00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:52,180
we completed a stream walk to examine the stream banks

895
00:38:52,180 --> 00:38:56,460
and the erosional areas to the northern portion of the extent.

896
00:38:56,460 --> 00:39:00,220
Like what would line up with the extent of terrace drive, right?

897
00:39:00,220 --> 00:39:02,900
We went all the way up to that reach of the river.

898
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:06,580
We noted the root depths, their density,

899
00:39:06,580 --> 00:39:08,300
any existing surface protection.

900
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:09,780
So like if somebody had placed rock,

901
00:39:09,780 --> 00:39:12,380
or if there was some logs,

902
00:39:12,380 --> 00:39:15,300
or anything protecting the surface of a stream bank,

903
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:17,660
we noted the bank angle and the bank height,

904
00:39:17,660 --> 00:39:19,500
and the overall length of a stream bank

905
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:20,860
that was actually eroding.

906
00:39:20,860 --> 00:39:23,340
And so most banks were about four to five feet.

907
00:39:23,340 --> 00:39:24,700
There was a couple that were, I think,

908
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:25,820
were 10 and 11 feet high,

909
00:39:25,820 --> 00:39:27,740
but most of them were four to five feet high.

910
00:39:27,740 --> 00:39:30,020
Bank angles were about 60 to 90 degrees,

911
00:39:30,020 --> 00:39:32,900
so very vertical banks were in there.

912
00:39:33,940 --> 00:39:37,060
And lots of just shallow root depths and low root density.

913
00:39:37,060 --> 00:39:40,340
So less than six to 12 inches,

914
00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:42,500
it really didn't have a whole lot of depth to the root.

915
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:46,340
So we categorized then each one of those stream banks,

916
00:39:46,340 --> 00:39:48,020
we went back and grabbed all that data,

917
00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:52,140
and we categorized things into low, moderate,

918
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:56,300
high and very high erosion rates for all the stream banks

919
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:57,460
up in that northern reach.

920
00:39:57,460 --> 00:39:59,700
And we're suggesting stabilizing the areas

921
00:39:59,700 --> 00:40:02,420
with high and very high erosion rates.

922
00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:05,860
It equates to approximately 1,700 feet.

923
00:40:05,860 --> 00:40:06,940
It's gonna be a little bit more than that,

924
00:40:06,940 --> 00:40:08,100
because you're gonna have to do some tie-in.

925
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,500
So I'm just gonna use the round number

926
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:13,100
of about 2,000 linear feet is what we're right now suggesting.

927
00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:15,780
And we're gonna continue to evaluate those areas

928
00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:19,540
as we progress this, the stream banks design here.

929
00:40:19,540 --> 00:40:21,900
And what you can see here is just a typical area

930
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:24,980
on the left figure where you can see the little purple lines.

931
00:40:24,980 --> 00:40:26,580
That is the place that we're talking about

932
00:40:26,580 --> 00:40:30,140
putting in some of the soil lifts.

933
00:40:30,140 --> 00:40:31,780
So you can see on the outside of bends

934
00:40:31,780 --> 00:40:34,580
is we're talking about putting some soil lifts in.

935
00:40:34,580 --> 00:40:36,900
The figure to the right in the lower right-hand corner there

936
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:38,620
shows you where the soil lift would look like.

937
00:40:38,620 --> 00:40:41,500
It's some people call them soil burritos.

938
00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:45,100
That's where you take a piece of erosion control fabric

939
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:47,980
and you put soil in them and you basically wrap it back

940
00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:50,820
like a burrito and you can see them, you can plant them,

941
00:40:50,820 --> 00:40:52,460
you can put live stakes in between them

942
00:40:52,460 --> 00:40:54,420
and it helps stabilize that stream bank.

943
00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:57,060
And there's a picture of one up on the top.

944
00:40:57,060 --> 00:40:58,740
This was one that was built with forms

945
00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:00,220
meaning they use wood forms.

946
00:41:00,220 --> 00:41:02,980
So that's why it's got a very straight edge to it.

947
00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:04,900
If you don't use a form, they don't have

948
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:07,460
that straight edge look to them.

949
00:41:07,460 --> 00:41:09,420
So we can talk about what you'd actually want it

950
00:41:09,420 --> 00:41:11,140
to look like as far as using forms.

951
00:41:11,140 --> 00:41:13,920
But let's see here.

952
00:41:15,460 --> 00:41:17,060
The other thing I wanted to point out on the figure

953
00:41:17,060 --> 00:41:18,900
on the left there is the things that you see

954
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:20,380
with the purple boxes there

955
00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:23,780
and then the little stippling between them.

956
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:25,860
That is one of the regenerative stormwater

957
00:41:25,860 --> 00:41:26,860
conveyance systems.

958
00:41:26,860 --> 00:41:29,940
And so that's the area that is the drainage path

959
00:41:29,940 --> 00:41:32,500
that's feeding from Britwood Hills, the pond that's there.

960
00:41:32,500 --> 00:41:33,820
And so this is one of the places

961
00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:35,740
that we would want to do one of those

962
00:41:35,740 --> 00:41:37,740
regenerative stormwater conveyance.

963
00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:40,180
It's where we would have a series of step pools

964
00:41:40,180 --> 00:41:42,940
and infiltration areas as a drain of transitions

965
00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:44,660
into the main channel.

966
00:41:44,660 --> 00:41:48,980
So we have some designs for each one

967
00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:50,860
of the regenerative stormwater conveyance systems

968
00:41:50,860 --> 00:41:51,860
throughout the plan set.

969
00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:53,540
There's, I think it's 13.

970
00:41:53,540 --> 00:41:54,380
I should know the number.

971
00:41:54,380 --> 00:41:57,140
I think it's 13 of them throughout Valley Creek.

972
00:41:57,140 --> 00:41:59,180
And this is just a zoom in of what one

973
00:41:59,180 --> 00:42:01,100
of those regenerative stormwater conveyance systems

974
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:02,380
would actually look like.

975
00:42:02,380 --> 00:42:04,140
You can see up at the top end

976
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:05,220
where you start with a riffle

977
00:42:05,220 --> 00:42:09,020
and you transition into some of these more rocky areas

978
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:12,460
and then there's some larger rocks and it cascades down.

979
00:42:12,460 --> 00:42:14,860
So they're designed to slow down, filter,

980
00:42:14,860 --> 00:42:16,820
and treat the stormwater.

981
00:42:16,820 --> 00:42:18,820
That is what reduces the pollutants

982
00:42:18,820 --> 00:42:20,620
and before it reaches the waterway.

983
00:42:20,620 --> 00:42:21,540
That's what those are doing.

984
00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:24,100
So in the proposed Valley Creek plans,

985
00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:25,180
there are two different types

986
00:42:25,180 --> 00:42:28,580
of these regenerative stormwater conveyance.

987
00:42:28,580 --> 00:42:29,660
There's one that's included

988
00:42:29,660 --> 00:42:32,180
is more step pools leading into a riffle wear

989
00:42:32,180 --> 00:42:34,940
and there's the step pools leading into a cascade wear.

990
00:42:34,940 --> 00:42:37,140
They're very similar, has more to do

991
00:42:37,140 --> 00:42:38,780
with what type of rock and the grade

992
00:42:38,780 --> 00:42:39,900
that you're changing them on there.

993
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:42,420
But you'll see in the plans, two different kinds.

994
00:42:44,660 --> 00:42:47,460
And that is what they're typically gonna look like

995
00:42:47,460 --> 00:42:50,580
and the length of them will vary depending on where you are.

996
00:42:51,860 --> 00:42:53,700
Norport drive crossing.

997
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:56,620
Last time we talked to it 30%,

998
00:42:56,620 --> 00:43:00,060
we didn't have sizing done for the bridge at Norport.

999
00:43:00,060 --> 00:43:01,940
We now have figured out what we need

1000
00:43:01,940 --> 00:43:05,020
for hydraulic capacity, what the size is going to be.

1001
00:43:05,020 --> 00:43:08,620
It's 83 feet long.

1002
00:43:08,620 --> 00:43:12,420
So an 83 foot wide on the roadway.

1003
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:15,420
It's 28 by seven precast three set of culvert

1004
00:43:15,420 --> 00:43:17,980
is what the one at Norport is that we're proposing.

1005
00:43:17,980 --> 00:43:20,100
And then it hails trail the same thing.

1006
00:43:20,100 --> 00:43:21,380
We didn't have sizes done that

1007
00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:24,300
and we do now it's about 106 feet long,

1008
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:27,940
42 by 10 three sided culvert again.

1009
00:43:27,940 --> 00:43:30,020
And here you can see at hails trail

1010
00:43:30,020 --> 00:43:33,340
too there's another storm water conveyance system

1011
00:43:33,340 --> 00:43:35,060
that we're proposing that's coming in right there

1012
00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:37,140
on the left bank.

1013
00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:39,020
I'm sorry, right bank, right bank.

1014
00:43:39,020 --> 00:43:41,460
Got a quick question for you on there.

1015
00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:44,460
Why do we have the length so much more

1016
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:47,620
than what it is from back to sidewalk to back to sidewalk?

1017
00:43:47,620 --> 00:43:52,620
Because this is one that we're,

1018
00:43:53,300 --> 00:43:55,220
I don't think it's that much longer.

1019
00:43:55,220 --> 00:43:56,660
Are you saying, oh, oh, that's just

1020
00:43:56,660 --> 00:43:58,980
because of the side slopes coming down over the top.

1021
00:43:58,980 --> 00:43:59,820
Oh, okay.

1022
00:43:59,820 --> 00:44:00,860
That's I see what you're talking about.

1023
00:44:00,860 --> 00:44:02,540
The projection on the two sides.

1024
00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:04,260
Yeah, it's the side slopes coming down.

1025
00:44:04,260 --> 00:44:08,300
Okay, so that's, it's more effective either cost wise

1026
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:09,980
or whatever to go longer that way

1027
00:44:09,980 --> 00:44:12,140
than to have a larger head wall.

1028
00:44:13,180 --> 00:44:14,380
Yes.

1029
00:44:14,380 --> 00:44:16,780
And also for safety purposes too, right?

1030
00:44:16,780 --> 00:44:18,780
We didn't want to have a steep sided.

1031
00:44:18,780 --> 00:44:21,420
We want some four to one slopes,

1032
00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:23,140
I think it is going down to the sides.

1033
00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:23,980
Okay.

1034
00:44:23,980 --> 00:44:25,420
So that is something I can bring up

1035
00:44:25,420 --> 00:44:27,020
with our transportation engineers too.

1036
00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:28,900
So you'll see later when I talk about Lake Street,

1037
00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:31,540
we're having our transportation traffic engineers

1038
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:33,780
look at all three of the bridge crossings

1039
00:44:33,780 --> 00:44:37,220
from a traffic efficiency, from a safety point of view.

1040
00:44:37,220 --> 00:44:38,500
That's something that's happening right now.

1041
00:44:38,500 --> 00:44:40,780
Yeah, because on a local road like this,

1042
00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:42,900
you really, you have a clear zone

1043
00:44:42,900 --> 00:44:44,900
except you don't have a clear zone

1044
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:46,860
like you do on a highway.

1045
00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:51,140
So you really wouldn't need to have

1046
00:44:51,140 --> 00:44:53,620
any vehicle safe barrier on the outside.

1047
00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:57,100
That just a railing would be enough to keep bikes

1048
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:59,100
or pedestrians from going over would be adequate

1049
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:00,180
in that perspective.

1050
00:45:00,180 --> 00:45:02,900
But saying that, this is safer

1051
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:05,340
if a car were to go off of the edge.

1052
00:45:05,340 --> 00:45:07,380
And I think with the sidewalks being there too,

1053
00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:09,020
I think that's something that we were looking at,

1054
00:45:09,020 --> 00:45:11,140
but I can talk to them specifically about it.

1055
00:45:11,140 --> 00:45:12,620
Melissa, do you remember any other reason why?

1056
00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:14,460
I think we talked about it from a safety standpoint.

1057
00:45:14,460 --> 00:45:16,180
Was our main concern.

1058
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:18,100
Oh, one of the other things I wanted to point out,

1059
00:45:18,100 --> 00:45:20,220
the cross section of the bridge there,

1060
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:21,460
and you can see where the channel is,

1061
00:45:21,460 --> 00:45:23,340
it's pushed over to one side.

1062
00:45:23,340 --> 00:45:24,340
That's because first of all,

1063
00:45:24,340 --> 00:45:26,180
the channel itself is meandering through here,

1064
00:45:26,180 --> 00:45:28,500
but we are looking at the possibility

1065
00:45:28,500 --> 00:45:31,900
of aligning the stream to one side of the culvert

1066
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:34,700
so we can actually have a bike path going through

1067
00:45:36,100 --> 00:45:37,180
the culvert itself.

1068
00:45:37,180 --> 00:45:39,500
So we're working on that right now

1069
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:41,700
of how much head clearance do we need,

1070
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:43,900
and can we get it if we shift the stream over

1071
00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:47,500
to one side and have the bike path going through there.

1072
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:49,700
So that's something that we're looking at now.

1073
00:45:52,980 --> 00:45:54,500
But perhaps the largest change,

1074
00:45:54,500 --> 00:45:56,780
and this won't come to surprise to any of you,

1075
00:45:56,780 --> 00:45:59,940
but since the 30% in October that we're proposing

1076
00:45:59,940 --> 00:46:01,140
these changes at Lake Street,

1077
00:46:01,140 --> 00:46:02,340
which the Board of Public Works,

1078
00:46:02,340 --> 00:46:05,060
you guys saw a presentation on it in March,

1079
00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:07,860
the alternative is shared with City Council last week,

1080
00:46:07,860 --> 00:46:11,180
and we're progressing the design towards 60% right now.

1081
00:46:11,180 --> 00:46:13,180
You can see a few updates have been made

1082
00:46:13,220 --> 00:46:14,220
since you've last seen it,

1083
00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:16,260
but I don't think it's anything

1084
00:46:16,260 --> 00:46:17,940
starkly different than what you've seen.

1085
00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:19,580
We just refined a few things.

1086
00:46:19,580 --> 00:46:21,580
It's really more about colors on here,

1087
00:46:21,580 --> 00:46:23,420
I think than anything.

1088
00:46:23,420 --> 00:46:25,180
Same thing with the parking spaces.

1089
00:46:25,180 --> 00:46:27,420
They're the same that we are showing you then.

1090
00:46:27,420 --> 00:46:28,980
It's the increased green space

1091
00:46:28,980 --> 00:46:31,900
that improved fish passage that we talked about.

1092
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:34,540
I can tell you guys, we've gotten further

1093
00:46:34,540 --> 00:46:35,860
with the hydraulic modeling,

1094
00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:40,540
and we are showing a significant flood risk benefits.

1095
00:46:41,380 --> 00:46:42,820
I will say it's preliminary,

1096
00:46:42,820 --> 00:46:46,100
but it's about a three foot drop of water surface.

1097
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:51,100
That's significant by opening up Lake Street.

1098
00:46:51,780 --> 00:46:54,380
Three feet is, that's a lot.

1099
00:46:54,380 --> 00:46:56,300
And the world of hydraulics,

1100
00:46:56,300 --> 00:46:58,300
when they tell you a no rise,

1101
00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:02,660
you're going down to 0.001 inches is what we're feet

1102
00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:03,820
is what we're usually looking at,

1103
00:47:03,820 --> 00:47:05,380
and for me to say three feet,

1104
00:47:05,380 --> 00:47:06,940
it's one of the largest drops I've seen.

1105
00:47:06,940 --> 00:47:09,100
I'll say I'm like in an urban area of modeling

1106
00:47:09,100 --> 00:47:10,820
that we've done for a reduction.

1107
00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:12,660
So significant.

1108
00:47:14,060 --> 00:47:16,180
And like I said, we're having our transportation

1109
00:47:16,180 --> 00:47:17,460
and traffic engineers look at this

1110
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:18,900
because I know there were some concerns

1111
00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:20,180
about when you're coming down the hill,

1112
00:47:20,180 --> 00:47:22,020
there's a parking space there,

1113
00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:24,660
the turn radius going over to the wastewater treatment plant,

1114
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:25,500
things like that,

1115
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:28,500
we're having them look specifically at the safety elements

1116
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:31,020
and just the efficiency elements of that.

1117
00:47:31,020 --> 00:47:34,220
And the other thing that's new in the 60% design

1118
00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:36,220
that wasn't in the 30% is,

1119
00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:37,420
I just want to highlight is,

1120
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:39,140
we've now added in the native seeds,

1121
00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:41,580
the shrub and the tree planting plants.

1122
00:47:41,580 --> 00:47:42,620
We're going to be planting throughout

1123
00:47:42,620 --> 00:47:44,540
the whole Valley Creek corridor,

1124
00:47:44,540 --> 00:47:46,740
preliminary seed mixes and woody plant lists

1125
00:47:46,740 --> 00:47:48,940
are included in the 60% plant set.

1126
00:47:48,940 --> 00:47:51,260
And we're going to be refining those plant lists,

1127
00:47:51,260 --> 00:47:52,500
working with our stakeholder group

1128
00:47:52,500 --> 00:47:54,500
that consists of partners such as

1129
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:56,540
Wisconsin Coastal Management,

1130
00:47:56,540 --> 00:48:00,060
Surpac, Wisconsin Bird and Bat Conservancy,

1131
00:48:00,060 --> 00:48:01,740
the city of course in Stantec.

1132
00:48:03,460 --> 00:48:05,500
So those are the biggest changes.

1133
00:48:05,860 --> 00:48:07,820
I thought now would be a good time to,

1134
00:48:07,820 --> 00:48:10,140
of course, thank the project team,

1135
00:48:10,140 --> 00:48:13,260
the city for all that you've helped us with over the last,

1136
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:15,660
between the 30% to 60%.

1137
00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:18,940
And I would love to hear what questions you guys have.

1138
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:20,660
And I can page through something

1139
00:48:20,660 --> 00:48:22,940
if you want me to go back.

1140
00:48:22,940 --> 00:48:24,700
Sure, I have one real quick.

1141
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:26,780
You had mentioned funding for the bridge

1142
00:48:26,780 --> 00:48:29,180
at the mouth of the creek at the lake.

1143
00:48:29,180 --> 00:48:31,100
What type of bridge are we looking at there?

1144
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:32,780
Is it just a pedestrian bridge

1145
00:48:32,780 --> 00:48:34,780
or something that an emergency vehicle

1146
00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:36,260
can drive across also?

1147
00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:39,940
Yeah, I think we really haven't designed those elements.

1148
00:48:39,940 --> 00:48:42,500
So the one thing I think you were going to mention

1149
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:44,020
is that some of the,

1150
00:48:44,020 --> 00:48:46,420
we are going to get to 90% for the stream project,

1151
00:48:46,420 --> 00:48:49,660
but some elements like maybe some of the bridge designs

1152
00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:51,020
and the recreational trail

1153
00:48:51,020 --> 00:48:52,980
are going to maybe linger a little bit.

1154
00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:53,820
And that's okay.

1155
00:48:53,820 --> 00:48:55,460
Like the biggest goal was the stream

1156
00:48:55,460 --> 00:48:57,980
because we wanted to meet some funding timelines.

1157
00:48:57,980 --> 00:49:01,220
So we can design it however you guys need it to be.

1158
00:49:01,220 --> 00:49:03,420
And if safety vehicles are a priority,

1159
00:49:03,460 --> 00:49:05,020
then that's what we will do.

1160
00:49:05,020 --> 00:49:06,100
Okay, thank you.

1161
00:49:08,260 --> 00:49:10,100
Yes, just a quick comment.

1162
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,100
I do appreciate all the time and energy

1163
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:13,300
you have spent on that

1164
00:49:13,300 --> 00:49:16,860
and all the time and energy you have shared with us here.

1165
00:49:16,860 --> 00:49:19,420
Because not only do we get to hear it,

1166
00:49:19,420 --> 00:49:22,620
but our constituents get to hear it on YouTube

1167
00:49:22,620 --> 00:49:23,740
at their leisure.

1168
00:49:23,740 --> 00:49:25,740
So thank you.

1169
00:49:25,740 --> 00:49:27,900
It's a, and thank the staff too.

1170
00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:31,940
I appreciate all your work listening to us ramble on.

1171
00:49:34,420 --> 00:49:37,180
All right, any other questions or comments?

1172
00:49:39,060 --> 00:49:40,020
All right.

1173
00:49:40,020 --> 00:49:40,940
Thank you.

1174
00:49:40,940 --> 00:49:41,780
Thank you.

1175
00:49:41,780 --> 00:49:44,140
Look forward to seeing it start to get built

1176
00:49:44,140 --> 00:49:45,900
hopefully in a year or so.

1177
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:47,380
And I don't think I'm here next week.

1178
00:49:47,380 --> 00:49:48,820
So I won't see you then.

1179
00:49:48,820 --> 00:49:52,140
Okay, we'll wait till next month.

1180
00:49:55,220 --> 00:49:56,060
All right.

1181
00:49:57,260 --> 00:50:01,180
Then we'll move on to item six presentation

1182
00:50:01,180 --> 00:50:03,500
of tit number five, project planning.

1183
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:15,820
All right, I'll use the dead air space

1184
00:50:15,820 --> 00:50:18,220
to introduce these guys.

1185
00:50:18,220 --> 00:50:20,820
So we have with us Ben Wood from Strand

1186
00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:25,060
and Aaron Grohl from Kapoor,

1187
00:50:25,060 --> 00:50:27,500
who are going to make a presentation

1188
00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:31,020
on what the next five years

1189
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:35,780
may look like as far as project planning

1190
00:50:35,780 --> 00:50:39,300
and implementation related to TID-5,

1191
00:50:42,060 --> 00:50:44,300
which of course involves everything

1192
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:47,660
from extending water up into Canalesville

1193
00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:52,660
to increasing the size of the sewer interceptor

1194
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:55,460
running from down Terrace Drive

1195
00:50:55,460 --> 00:50:58,460
and all the way down to the wastewater plant.

1196
00:50:58,460 --> 00:51:03,140
So there is some synergy between this project

1197
00:51:03,140 --> 00:51:04,940
and the Valley Creek project

1198
00:51:04,940 --> 00:51:09,140
because the sanitary interceptor runs

1199
00:51:09,140 --> 00:51:10,940
through the Valley Creek corridor.

1200
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:20,540
And if, yeah, Ben is, so as you know, Strand

1201
00:51:20,980 --> 00:51:24,500
is the city's consultant for most of our water

1202
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:27,220
or water and wastewater projects.

1203
00:51:27,220 --> 00:51:32,220
And so they are essentially providing that direction

1204
00:51:32,420 --> 00:51:34,900
to the Kapoor team

1205
00:51:35,900 --> 00:51:38,420
who are designing many of these projects.

1206
00:51:38,420 --> 00:51:41,980
And so they are working in tandem on this

1207
00:51:41,980 --> 00:51:45,980
and we meet every week to discuss these things.

1208
00:51:45,980 --> 00:51:48,300
Yeah, I apologize, give me one more minute

1209
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:49,700
to give this another shot.

1210
00:51:51,980 --> 00:51:53,300
Well, as we wait to let everyone know

1211
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:56,180
that the radar looks pretty exciting to our west.

1212
00:51:57,940 --> 00:51:58,780
Thanks.

1213
00:51:59,980 --> 00:52:01,340
Valley Creek is, we're going to be

1214
00:52:01,340 --> 00:52:03,940
honestly, it'll help us with a story like a kid or something.

1215
00:52:03,940 --> 00:52:04,780
Yeah.

1216
00:52:07,420 --> 00:52:09,380
Hopefully they're in the basement right now.

1217
00:52:10,860 --> 00:52:12,860
Now, the nastiest part looks like it's heading

1218
00:52:12,860 --> 00:52:14,740
for a theme spell in that one, so.

1219
00:52:17,260 --> 00:52:19,260
You know, it's not a city break, look at it.

1220
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:23,980
Computer is not happy with me right now.

1221
00:52:25,220 --> 00:52:26,220
I'm happy with the cake.

1222
00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:28,060
Yeah.

1223
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:46,100
Oh, we don't get softball size hail.

1224
00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:49,140
We're good, but it looks like

1225
00:52:49,140 --> 00:52:51,380
we're just going to get a little water.

1226
00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:56,100
Okay, I apologize, the screen will be slightly reduced,

1227
00:52:56,100 --> 00:53:00,140
but I think we will be able to work through it this way.

1228
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:08,380
You want to just going to get back to here first.

1229
00:53:08,380 --> 00:53:10,460
You want me to project it?

1230
00:53:10,460 --> 00:53:12,380
Do you have the ability to bring it up?

1231
00:53:21,020 --> 00:53:23,060
Otherwise, I'm fine to roll with this.

1232
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:25,900
This will just not be as smooth as as hoped,

1233
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:27,860
but we will still get through this.

1234
00:53:27,860 --> 00:53:31,700
Yes, thank you very much for bringing us out here tonight.

1235
00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:36,700
The intent of the presentation tonight is to give everyone

1236
00:53:39,380 --> 00:53:42,700
a little insight into what Kapoor and Strand

1237
00:53:42,700 --> 00:53:44,820
and the city staff have been collaborating on

1238
00:53:44,820 --> 00:53:47,020
to develop the TID project plan

1239
00:53:47,020 --> 00:53:51,340
and how the planning for those projects is coming together

1240
00:53:51,780 --> 00:53:54,420
and what the next five years of those projects will look like.

1241
00:53:54,420 --> 00:53:58,620
So we'll start with a brief overview of the TID project plan.

1242
00:53:58,620 --> 00:54:03,620
We'll go over some of the key planning issues

1243
00:54:03,860 --> 00:54:05,740
and the impetus for those projects,

1244
00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:10,740
the upcoming planned projects categorized by city coordination,

1245
00:54:12,380 --> 00:54:16,140
vantage and adjacent areas, offsite projects,

1246
00:54:16,140 --> 00:54:18,740
other city capital improvements.

1247
00:54:18,740 --> 00:54:23,300
There's a project index and project summary at the end.

1248
00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:29,220
So first off, the TID project plan overview.

1249
00:54:29,220 --> 00:54:31,180
This is a developer finance TID,

1250
00:54:31,180 --> 00:54:32,380
which is important to note,

1251
00:54:32,380 --> 00:54:36,820
the developer is at risk for the financing of these projects

1252
00:54:36,820 --> 00:54:38,540
and that is all established

1253
00:54:38,540 --> 00:54:40,700
in the recorded development agreement.

1254
00:54:41,580 --> 00:54:42,980
The TID project plan,

1255
00:54:42,980 --> 00:54:44,660
the cover page of which is shown here

1256
00:54:44,660 --> 00:54:46,980
and developed by ELLERS,

1257
00:54:46,980 --> 00:54:51,980
identified approximately $180 million of total city-led

1258
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:54,740
public infrastructure projects.

1259
00:54:54,740 --> 00:54:57,580
The basis for that project need was categorized

1260
00:54:57,580 --> 00:55:02,220
into expanded service area, redundancy and resiliency

1261
00:55:02,220 --> 00:55:04,420
and capacity needs.

1262
00:55:04,420 --> 00:55:07,900
Approximately $100 million of those city-led projects

1263
00:55:07,900 --> 00:55:10,700
are described in this presentation tonight

1264
00:55:10,700 --> 00:55:13,140
as slated for the next 100 years.

1265
00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:15,740
And Erin and I together have collaborated

1266
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:19,140
in helping to plan those projects.

1267
00:55:20,340 --> 00:55:22,980
This map shows the project site overview.

1268
00:55:22,980 --> 00:55:27,740
You may recognize this from many past presentations.

1269
00:55:27,740 --> 00:55:31,260
The vantage lands are shown in yellow and pink.

1270
00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:34,420
The yellow is the southern portion of the site

1271
00:55:34,420 --> 00:55:37,020
that's currently being developed, the pink.

1272
00:55:37,020 --> 00:55:40,500
There are no site-specific plans proposed for that,

1273
00:55:40,500 --> 00:55:43,700
but that's also part of the vantage lands.

1274
00:55:43,700 --> 00:55:48,460
The Canalsville obligation area is shown in blue.

1275
00:55:48,460 --> 00:55:53,300
And then the logical adjacent lands are shown in green.

1276
00:55:54,260 --> 00:55:58,340
The city may not have like an overt intent

1277
00:55:58,340 --> 00:56:02,420
to serve the green lands with municipal utilities.

1278
00:56:02,420 --> 00:56:06,140
However, the Southeastern Wisconsin Regional Planning

1279
00:56:06,140 --> 00:56:09,860
Commission or sewer pack asked the city to plan

1280
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:14,140
for what adjacent lands might logically want

1281
00:56:14,140 --> 00:56:17,780
municipal utilities or be connected to municipal utilities

1282
00:56:17,780 --> 00:56:22,780
once they're run up to this portion of the city as shown.

1283
00:56:25,260 --> 00:56:30,260
This map shows all of the upcoming planned city-led projects.

1284
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:31,740
This is just an overview map.

1285
00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:34,340
We're gonna spend a lot of time in tonight's presentation

1286
00:56:34,340 --> 00:56:37,420
kind of getting into these in more details.

1287
00:56:37,420 --> 00:56:42,420
The project categories include developer-led TID projects.

1288
00:56:42,420 --> 00:56:44,420
I understand Graf made a presentation

1289
00:56:44,420 --> 00:56:47,500
to city council last week on some of those.

1290
00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:50,940
This map, which shows the city-led TID projects.

1291
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:54,260
And I just wanna point out that when you see zoomed

1292
00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:56,340
in portions of this map, you'll be able to see

1293
00:56:56,340 --> 00:56:59,780
that each project is labeled with a project ID

1294
00:56:59,780 --> 00:57:02,540
such as 26-1.

1295
00:57:02,540 --> 00:57:05,660
That represents the intended construction start year.

1296
00:57:05,660 --> 00:57:10,660
So obviously 26 is intended to start yet this year.

1297
00:57:11,340 --> 00:57:13,940
And then we're aware of other city capital improvements

1298
00:57:13,940 --> 00:57:15,900
that need to be coordinated.

1299
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:18,500
The scheduled drivers for these city-led projects

1300
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:22,420
have to do with occupancy on the vantage site

1301
00:57:22,420 --> 00:57:26,020
and the Canalesville Obligation area dictated

1302
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:27,900
by an inter municipal agreement.

1303
00:57:29,660 --> 00:57:32,980
Citywide coordination is a major impetus

1304
00:57:32,980 --> 00:57:35,780
for making this presentation tonight.

1305
00:57:35,780 --> 00:57:39,260
And it's something that our staffs and city staff

1306
00:57:39,260 --> 00:57:41,340
have been working on together

1307
00:57:41,340 --> 00:57:45,140
through ongoing meetings over the last several months.

1308
00:57:45,140 --> 00:57:47,220
These projects touch every corner

1309
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:49,060
of the city of Port Washington.

1310
00:57:49,060 --> 00:57:52,140
And the success depends on strong coordination

1311
00:57:52,140 --> 00:57:55,500
across public partners, community organizations,

1312
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:59,580
businesses and internal operations.

1313
00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:03,780
The approach is multi-faceted to coordinate early,

1314
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:06,180
communicate clearly and keep the community

1315
00:58:06,180 --> 00:58:07,780
moving forward together.

1316
00:58:09,860 --> 00:58:13,100
This graphic just demonstrates the community

1317
00:58:13,100 --> 00:58:16,620
and inter-agency coordination efforts

1318
00:58:16,620 --> 00:58:19,180
which range from education partners,

1319
00:58:19,180 --> 00:58:23,940
regional partners, utility and infrastructure partners,

1320
00:58:23,940 --> 00:58:26,900
known tourism and events, businesses,

1321
00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:31,340
waterfront and city operations stakeholders.

1322
00:58:31,340 --> 00:58:33,420
The strategy here is to roll this out

1323
00:58:33,420 --> 00:58:34,740
to Public Works Committee,

1324
00:58:34,740 --> 00:58:36,620
this whole TID project planning

1325
00:58:36,620 --> 00:58:38,580
to Public Works Committee tonight.

1326
00:58:38,580 --> 00:58:40,980
And next week again to City Council,

1327
00:58:42,180 --> 00:58:44,420
get your input and feedback on that

1328
00:58:44,420 --> 00:58:48,540
and city staff intends to have outreach

1329
00:58:48,540 --> 00:58:51,460
with these entities forthcoming and ongoing.

1330
00:58:54,460 --> 00:58:56,780
This is the first slide that's going to dive in

1331
00:58:56,780 --> 00:58:59,460
to some of the specific projects.

1332
00:58:59,460 --> 00:59:02,180
The presentation or our thought process

1333
00:59:02,180 --> 00:59:06,460
in presenting these is to group the projects together

1334
00:59:06,460 --> 00:59:08,020
by need.

1335
00:59:08,020 --> 00:59:10,900
So 2026 construction start-year projects

1336
00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:13,980
are primarily focused on what is necessary

1337
00:59:13,980 --> 00:59:17,140
and essential to serve the vantage lands

1338
00:59:17,140 --> 00:59:18,900
being developed right now.

1339
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:21,820
And you'll see as we roll through the presentation

1340
00:59:21,820 --> 00:59:24,820
that other project needs

1341
00:59:25,820 --> 00:59:27,820
kind of drive the coordination

1342
00:59:27,820 --> 00:59:30,820
of various other groups of projects.

1343
00:59:31,980 --> 00:59:33,020
What this map shows,

1344
00:59:33,020 --> 00:59:35,340
and I'm going to attempt to use the laser pointer here

1345
00:59:35,340 --> 00:59:37,020
behind us at least,

1346
00:59:37,020 --> 00:59:39,700
there's these two blue stars

1347
00:59:39,700 --> 00:59:42,620
that represents the point of connection

1348
00:59:42,620 --> 00:59:46,300
from Vantage's on-site private utilities

1349
00:59:46,300 --> 00:59:48,820
to the city's public utilities.

1350
00:59:49,260 --> 00:59:54,260
Vantage has requested that looping

1351
00:59:55,260 --> 00:59:58,060
or service extensions, I should say,

1352
00:59:58,060 --> 01:00:02,180
to these points of connection be completed by 2027.

1353
01:00:02,180 --> 01:00:05,220
And those projects are shown here, there's three of them.

1354
01:00:05,220 --> 01:00:08,580
First is County Highway LL Water and Sewer.

1355
01:00:08,580 --> 01:00:11,820
This project is nearly substantially complete.

1356
01:00:12,820 --> 01:00:14,620
And we're talking about within weeks,

1357
01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:18,180
but that is shown in the black line work here.

1358
01:00:18,820 --> 01:00:21,820
Next up is Project 26-1,

1359
01:00:21,820 --> 01:00:24,660
which would loop water main from the Thomas Water Tower

1360
01:00:24,660 --> 01:00:27,580
along Main Ranch Road

1361
01:00:27,580 --> 01:00:30,460
to loop toward that southern point of connection

1362
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:32,140
and include some water main

1363
01:00:32,140 --> 01:00:35,100
going up through a portion of Canalesville.

1364
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:37,940
26-2, the main driver is water main

1365
01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:40,680
and that project is water main only to loop

1366
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,820
to that northern point of connection.

1367
01:00:43,820 --> 01:00:46,060
One of the strategies overall

1368
01:00:46,060 --> 01:00:50,460
in trying to coordinate these is to minimize disruptions

1369
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:53,020
and detour routes to the extent that we can

1370
01:00:53,020 --> 01:00:55,300
or the duration of detour routes.

1371
01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:58,020
So with Project 26-1,

1372
01:00:58,020 --> 01:01:00,020
because we know that the city is obligated

1373
01:01:00,020 --> 01:01:03,060
to also provide Canalesville with sewer utilities

1374
01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:05,220
while the main driver is water means,

1375
01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:07,300
while that road is opened up,

1376
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:10,500
the intent is to accomplish the sewer infrastructure there

1377
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:11,340
as well.

1378
01:01:13,260 --> 01:01:15,260
I'm gonna turn it over to Aaron to talk about

1379
01:01:15,260 --> 01:01:17,380
a couple project specifics

1380
01:01:17,380 --> 01:01:21,020
and Aaron just hit the over key to advance.

1381
01:01:21,020 --> 01:01:23,020
All right, thanks Ben.

1382
01:01:23,020 --> 01:01:23,940
Good evening everybody.

1383
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:24,900
Hopefully we can get through here

1384
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:26,820
before these big storms come through.

1385
01:01:26,820 --> 01:01:30,660
So just real quick to add on to what Ben was just talking

1386
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:34,340
about, 26-1 is the first of two projects

1387
01:01:34,340 --> 01:01:36,100
that we're planning on completing

1388
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:41,100
and constructing this year and into early 2027.

1389
01:01:41,660 --> 01:01:45,020
This project would connect a water

1390
01:01:46,380 --> 01:01:49,860
near the water tower across I-43 up to Mink Ranch Road

1391
01:01:49,860 --> 01:01:52,300
and from Mink Ranch Road all the way up to

1392
01:01:52,300 --> 01:01:55,180
where we finished this winter on Highland Drive

1393
01:01:55,180 --> 01:01:57,820
near the bridge that goes underneath I-43.

1394
01:01:57,820 --> 01:02:00,140
And then also as Ben just did,

1395
01:02:00,140 --> 01:02:03,100
extending also up north on KW

1396
01:02:03,100 --> 01:02:06,140
to approximately where the boat storage facility is.

1397
01:02:06,140 --> 01:02:06,980
If you know where that is,

1398
01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:09,980
that's the north limits of this 26-1.

1399
01:02:09,980 --> 01:02:13,180
So there's about 8,000 feet of water main,

1400
01:02:13,180 --> 01:02:14,900
3,000 feet of sanitary sewer.

1401
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:17,860
And then also the ability for the residents

1402
01:02:17,860 --> 01:02:21,300
and property owners in Canalsville to connect

1403
01:02:21,300 --> 01:02:25,940
with sanitary sewer laterals and water services as well.

1404
01:02:25,940 --> 01:02:28,780
The purpose is to add an additional loop

1405
01:02:28,780 --> 01:02:32,100
across I-43 for redundancy.

1406
01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:35,100
So that's the second line where we would cross I-43

1407
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:37,060
near the water tower.

1408
01:02:37,060 --> 01:02:40,860
And then also to serve the Canalsville obligation,

1409
01:02:40,860 --> 01:02:42,860
which is part of the agreement

1410
01:02:42,860 --> 01:02:45,180
for annexation of this area.

1411
01:02:46,220 --> 01:02:51,140
When you say near the bridge by 43 by the creek,

1412
01:02:51,140 --> 01:02:54,540
are we, is this going to go down under the bridge

1413
01:02:54,540 --> 01:02:55,900
along the railroad?

1414
01:02:55,900 --> 01:02:58,700
Or are we going to bore under 43 just for a pipe?

1415
01:02:58,700 --> 01:03:02,620
We'll bore underneath within a casing pipe

1416
01:03:02,620 --> 01:03:05,820
on the east side of the railroad tracks.

1417
01:03:05,820 --> 01:03:06,660
Okay.

1418
01:03:06,660 --> 01:03:07,500
All right.

1419
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:08,340
Thank you.

1420
01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:11,100
So the project schedule,

1421
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:12,900
and I'll discuss this a little bit later

1422
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:16,380
in a couple of slides down as far as subject permitting,

1423
01:03:16,380 --> 01:03:19,060
but our plans are at about 90%.

1424
01:03:19,060 --> 01:03:23,500
We, and the intent is to go out to bid in April or May.

1425
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:26,780
And the construction timeline is about three and a half

1426
01:03:26,780 --> 01:03:29,260
months to complete this work.

1427
01:03:29,260 --> 01:03:30,100
Okay.

1428
01:03:31,580 --> 01:03:35,460
26-2 is an extension of 26-1.

1429
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:38,860
It starts from the boat storage facility again

1430
01:03:38,860 --> 01:03:41,260
on KW heads north to Lake Drive,

1431
01:03:41,260 --> 01:03:43,300
and then heads east on Lake Drive to connect

1432
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:46,860
to that northern star, the blue star

1433
01:03:46,860 --> 01:03:48,300
that Ben was referencing before.

1434
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:52,620
So that's the secondary access point to the vantage site.

1435
01:03:52,620 --> 01:03:54,780
This is again, just water main,

1436
01:03:54,780 --> 01:03:57,300
about 11,000 feet of water main.

1437
01:03:57,300 --> 01:03:59,100
The intent is to provide looping

1438
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:01,300
for the vantage project site itself,

1439
01:04:01,300 --> 01:04:04,220
and also to serve the obligation for Canalsville.

1440
01:04:05,660 --> 01:04:08,340
Next slide, we'll talk about the permitting.

1441
01:04:08,340 --> 01:04:10,580
The timeline is subject to permitting,

1442
01:04:10,580 --> 01:04:12,940
but our plans are 90% complete.

1443
01:04:12,940 --> 01:04:15,980
Again, intent is bidding out in April or May,

1444
01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:18,820
and this project will last about four months.

1445
01:04:21,660 --> 01:04:23,900
So key considerations.

1446
01:04:23,900 --> 01:04:28,900
We, first of all, are coordinating with PSC and DNR already.

1447
01:04:29,740 --> 01:04:32,220
We've had several meetings with both.

1448
01:04:32,220 --> 01:04:34,860
Because there's over three miles worth of water main

1449
01:04:34,860 --> 01:04:37,500
that triggers us to require

1450
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:40,620
for a construction authorization permit from PSC.

1451
01:04:40,620 --> 01:04:45,300
So they'll be reviewing, we expect to apply to PSC

1452
01:04:45,300 --> 01:04:47,620
and DNR for the water sewer,

1453
01:04:47,620 --> 01:04:50,740
notice of intent all within the next couple of weeks.

1454
01:04:50,740 --> 01:04:54,340
Upon approval from PSC, we'll start construction,

1455
01:04:54,340 --> 01:04:56,700
and as Ben mentioned earlier,

1456
01:04:56,700 --> 01:04:59,660
the intent is to try and have the water

1457
01:04:59,660 --> 01:05:02,780
up to the northern connection point on Lake Drive

1458
01:05:02,820 --> 01:05:05,020
by January of 27.

1459
01:05:05,980 --> 01:05:09,340
One other item to note is just the phasing.

1460
01:05:09,340 --> 01:05:11,660
We're completely aware that these two projects

1461
01:05:11,660 --> 01:05:14,180
will likely have to be constructed concurrently,

1462
01:05:14,180 --> 01:05:18,780
but we will specify in each project

1463
01:05:18,780 --> 01:05:21,420
that 26-1, which is basically

1464
01:05:21,420 --> 01:05:23,860
from the boat storage facility to the south,

1465
01:05:23,860 --> 01:05:25,580
needs to be completed first

1466
01:05:25,580 --> 01:05:29,460
before the work on 26-2 starts to the north of that.

1467
01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:32,140
That way the contractors aren't tripping over each other,

1468
01:05:32,140 --> 01:05:34,020
and it's a little bit easier for the residents

1469
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:37,740
that are along KW for those two projects.

1470
01:05:37,740 --> 01:05:38,660
And then on the right side,

1471
01:05:38,660 --> 01:05:41,220
you can see we have a draft detour map.

1472
01:05:41,220 --> 01:05:42,420
This will be refined a little bit

1473
01:05:42,420 --> 01:05:44,900
as we finalize our plans in the next couple of weeks,

1474
01:05:44,900 --> 01:05:46,740
but this, it is key to make sure

1475
01:05:46,740 --> 01:05:49,300
that we are addressing how the residents

1476
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:51,060
could get around these projects

1477
01:05:51,060 --> 01:05:52,420
in conjunction with all the other work

1478
01:05:52,420 --> 01:05:55,900
that's occurring out on this project area.

1479
01:05:56,820 --> 01:05:58,580
All right, from that, I'll turn it back over to Ben.

1480
01:05:58,580 --> 01:05:59,420
Thank you.

1481
01:06:02,260 --> 01:06:03,100
Thank you.

1482
01:06:03,100 --> 01:06:05,700
The next category of projects still has to do

1483
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:09,420
with the vantage site and completing the utility loops

1484
01:06:09,420 --> 01:06:13,740
along the east side and back to the north point.

1485
01:06:13,740 --> 01:06:18,740
So we can see, let's see, let's start with project 29-1.

1486
01:06:19,420 --> 01:06:24,380
It kind of takes off from Highland Drive

1487
01:06:24,380 --> 01:06:27,060
and follows County Highway LL,

1488
01:06:27,060 --> 01:06:28,420
kind of all the way up to a point

1489
01:06:28,420 --> 01:06:31,740
where we've identified the need for a sewer lift station,

1490
01:06:31,740 --> 01:06:34,180
which is project 28-3.

1491
01:06:34,180 --> 01:06:39,180
But again, you can see on 29-1, water, sewer, gravity sewer

1492
01:06:39,620 --> 01:06:43,220
and the force main are all slated

1493
01:06:43,220 --> 01:06:45,540
for the same construction year

1494
01:06:45,540 --> 01:06:50,100
to just try to limit that road's disruption to one year.

1495
01:06:50,940 --> 01:06:54,620
The sewer lift station is slated to happen

1496
01:06:54,620 --> 01:06:57,180
in a different year for a couple of reasons.

1497
01:06:57,180 --> 01:07:01,460
One is the lift stations just take a longer duration

1498
01:07:01,460 --> 01:07:04,860
to construct, they have more equipment,

1499
01:07:04,860 --> 01:07:06,700
especially electrical components,

1500
01:07:06,700 --> 01:07:09,500
generators, control panels, et cetera,

1501
01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:11,740
that have longer lead times.

1502
01:07:11,740 --> 01:07:14,940
So it's not going to start in the same year

1503
01:07:14,940 --> 01:07:17,340
that the utility extensions do,

1504
01:07:17,340 --> 01:07:21,940
but they will be coordinated to complete at the same time.

1505
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:26,620
Projects 30-1 is kind of outlined in Brown here

1506
01:07:26,620 --> 01:07:28,300
and it just kind of turns the corner

1507
01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:30,700
from that plan lift station location

1508
01:07:30,740 --> 01:07:33,420
back to that northern point of connection

1509
01:07:33,420 --> 01:07:35,660
to the vantage site.

1510
01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:37,980
The primary driver for that, again,

1511
01:07:37,980 --> 01:07:39,460
is to complete a water main loop,

1512
01:07:39,460 --> 01:07:42,980
but while the roadway is being worked on

1513
01:07:42,980 --> 01:07:46,460
to put in gravity, sewer in those areas as well.

1514
01:07:49,820 --> 01:07:53,420
The Canalesville obligation area is demonstrated here

1515
01:07:53,420 --> 01:07:56,660
in the map, which is actually a comprehensive land use

1516
01:07:56,660 --> 01:07:59,460
plan map for Canalesville.

1517
01:07:59,460 --> 01:08:00,820
Just at a real high level,

1518
01:08:00,820 --> 01:08:03,620
Canalesville is an unincorporated area

1519
01:08:03,620 --> 01:08:06,260
within the town of Port Washington.

1520
01:08:06,260 --> 01:08:09,900
There's an existing city town annexation agreement

1521
01:08:09,900 --> 01:08:13,140
that identified that the city will provide water

1522
01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:15,380
and sewer to Canalesville.

1523
01:08:15,380 --> 01:08:17,700
And the current version of that agreement says

1524
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:21,860
that will be completed by the end of 2027.

1525
01:08:21,860 --> 01:08:24,620
We'll talk a little bit more on the next slide here,

1526
01:08:24,620 --> 01:08:27,300
how some of that might be adjusted.

1527
01:08:28,300 --> 01:08:32,660
This map shows the Canalesville obligation projects.

1528
01:08:32,660 --> 01:08:35,060
Some of these are repeat from a past slide.

1529
01:08:35,060 --> 01:08:38,820
So 26-1 is needed to loop

1530
01:08:39,820 --> 01:08:41,300
to the southern point of connection,

1531
01:08:41,300 --> 01:08:46,020
but it also covers a lot of the Canalesville obligation area.

1532
01:08:46,020 --> 01:08:49,860
We've delineated these by gravity sewer area projects

1533
01:08:49,860 --> 01:08:52,260
and lift station area projects.

1534
01:08:52,260 --> 01:08:54,500
And hopefully what you can distinguish

1535
01:08:54,500 --> 01:08:57,740
is within Canalesville, which is shown in blue,

1536
01:08:57,740 --> 01:08:59,420
there's the solid blue areas.

1537
01:08:59,420 --> 01:09:01,700
And then there's a little bit of area here

1538
01:09:01,700 --> 01:09:05,060
that's shown with the blue hatched overlay.

1539
01:09:05,060 --> 01:09:08,020
And over here on this eastern wing,

1540
01:09:08,020 --> 01:09:12,380
all of Canalesville is shown in that blue hatched overlay.

1541
01:09:12,380 --> 01:09:14,820
What we've identified is that those are areas

1542
01:09:14,820 --> 01:09:18,540
of the within the Canalesville obligation area

1543
01:09:18,540 --> 01:09:20,940
that cannot be served by gravity sewer

1544
01:09:20,940 --> 01:09:23,860
because the topography doesn't work out for it.

1545
01:09:23,900 --> 01:09:26,100
They need to be served by a lift station.

1546
01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:29,460
And in each case, that lift station needs to be located

1547
01:09:29,460 --> 01:09:31,860
outside of Canalesville.

1548
01:09:31,860 --> 01:09:35,980
So to accomplish the Canalesville projects,

1549
01:09:35,980 --> 01:09:39,140
we have gravity sewer area planned projects.

1550
01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:44,140
We can accomplish those within the 2027 timeframe.

1551
01:09:44,580 --> 01:09:48,800
So again, that includes 26-1, water and sewer,

1552
01:09:49,780 --> 01:09:53,220
26-2, which starts at that break point

1553
01:09:53,220 --> 01:09:55,740
between gravity and lift station area.

1554
01:09:55,740 --> 01:09:57,780
That'll be water main only.

1555
01:09:57,780 --> 01:10:01,900
And then 27-2 is County Highway H

1556
01:10:01,900 --> 01:10:05,020
that'll include water and sewer.

1557
01:10:05,020 --> 01:10:07,900
The lift station projects are scheduled

1558
01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:12,860
for construction start beyond 2027.

1559
01:10:13,860 --> 01:10:15,340
That's strategic.

1560
01:10:15,340 --> 01:10:17,900
And Rob has already been in conversation

1561
01:10:17,900 --> 01:10:19,740
with the town chair about this.

1562
01:10:19,780 --> 01:10:23,740
And so far, they're agreeable to granting an extension

1563
01:10:23,740 --> 01:10:28,740
for that timeframe for these lift station area projects,

1564
01:10:28,860 --> 01:10:30,660
just recognizing two things.

1565
01:10:30,660 --> 01:10:34,180
One, lift stations take longer to construct.

1566
01:10:34,180 --> 01:10:38,180
And two, we want to make sure that connections

1567
01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:39,940
to that sewer are imminent

1568
01:10:39,940 --> 01:10:42,140
before we go ahead and build that infrastructure.

1569
01:10:42,140 --> 01:10:45,500
So we know that that'll be put into use right away.

1570
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:50,340
The next category of projects are the offsite

1571
01:10:50,340 --> 01:10:51,740
TID improvements.

1572
01:10:52,780 --> 01:10:55,860
These are categorized into sewer conveyance,

1573
01:10:55,860 --> 01:10:59,860
to convey flows up here from the vantage project site

1574
01:10:59,860 --> 01:11:02,340
all the way down to the wastewater treatment plant

1575
01:11:02,340 --> 01:11:06,020
and will increase pipe capacity along the way.

1576
01:11:06,020 --> 01:11:08,020
There are water distribution projects

1577
01:11:08,020 --> 01:11:11,460
that will pump water from the low zone to the high zone

1578
01:11:11,500 --> 01:11:16,500
and provide increased space for new equipment.

1579
01:11:16,740 --> 01:11:18,900
Wastewater treatment plant planning

1580
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:20,940
and treatment plant site resiliency

1581
01:11:20,940 --> 01:11:23,660
will get into each of these categories a little further.

1582
01:11:24,660 --> 01:11:27,820
Sewer conveyance shown in this pink project

1583
01:11:27,820 --> 01:11:31,220
are interceptor upsizing projects from Terrace Drive

1584
01:11:31,220 --> 01:11:34,140
all the way down to the wastewater treatment plant.

1585
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:38,460
This is shown in three different bid packages, if you will.

1586
01:11:38,460 --> 01:11:40,780
The delineation between the extents

1587
01:11:40,780 --> 01:11:42,980
for each of those bid packages

1588
01:11:42,980 --> 01:11:47,140
is being coordinated relative to detour routes

1589
01:11:47,140 --> 01:11:49,420
and trying to, again, keep disruptions

1590
01:11:49,420 --> 01:11:54,420
to one construction season for each kind of category of user

1591
01:11:55,580 --> 01:11:58,580
that might be impacted, for example.

1592
01:11:58,580 --> 01:12:01,020
Part of this will run through the inner urban trail.

1593
01:12:01,020 --> 01:12:02,980
We want that portion to be completed

1594
01:12:02,980 --> 01:12:05,340
all within one year.

1595
01:12:05,340 --> 01:12:07,220
Same with Terrace Drive, we want to make sure

1596
01:12:07,220 --> 01:12:09,020
that if that's going to be disturbed,

1597
01:12:09,020 --> 01:12:10,900
it happens all within one year.

1598
01:12:12,380 --> 01:12:15,820
Another capacity increase project is 28-1,

1599
01:12:15,820 --> 01:12:20,460
which is to upsize the Jackson Street gravity sewer.

1600
01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:22,460
Both of these projects help to convey

1601
01:12:22,460 --> 01:12:25,260
what weather flows that the city experiences

1602
01:12:25,260 --> 01:12:27,700
due to inflow and infiltration.

1603
01:12:30,340 --> 01:12:32,220
Water distribution upgrades.

1604
01:12:32,220 --> 01:12:35,460
This is a map of your existing distribution system,

1605
01:12:35,460 --> 01:12:37,180
which has two pressure zones.

1606
01:12:37,180 --> 01:12:40,820
The low zone shown in purple and the high zone shown in green.

1607
01:12:42,180 --> 01:12:46,100
Most of the vantage and canalsville land

1608
01:12:46,100 --> 01:12:51,100
is needed to be served by the high zone or the green area.

1609
01:12:51,220 --> 01:12:55,020
Therefore, one of the recommended projects, 27-1,

1610
01:12:55,020 --> 01:12:58,780
is a new consolidated booster station facility.

1611
01:12:58,780 --> 01:13:01,140
We've talked about this at a past presentation,

1612
01:13:01,140 --> 01:13:03,700
but this is a critical need project

1613
01:13:03,700 --> 01:13:06,780
because currently here water gets from the low zone

1614
01:13:06,780 --> 01:13:09,060
to the high zone in part through the Oakland

1615
01:13:09,060 --> 01:13:11,420
and Sunset Booster stations.

1616
01:13:11,420 --> 01:13:13,980
Those are both aged stations that are at the end

1617
01:13:13,980 --> 01:13:18,100
of their useful life, and one of them has experienced a failure.

1618
01:13:21,780 --> 01:13:24,260
Next, we have treatment plant planning.

1619
01:13:24,260 --> 01:13:27,740
The map here shows the extent of the entire

1620
01:13:29,420 --> 01:13:33,940
sewer conveyance and treatment plant planning area.

1621
01:13:33,940 --> 01:13:37,420
The service area considered includes the vantage area,

1622
01:13:37,420 --> 01:13:41,180
the canalsville area, and other growth that is planned

1623
01:13:41,180 --> 01:13:42,020
by the city.

1624
01:13:42,020 --> 01:13:45,100
You can see kind of some lighter hatched blue areas

1625
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:47,340
in the green and yellow areas

1626
01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:50,180
kind of on the western border of the city.

1627
01:13:50,180 --> 01:13:54,300
The facility plan will proactively forecast project needs,

1628
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:57,860
specifically at the wastewater treatment plant

1629
01:13:57,860 --> 01:14:01,180
that will be associated with the service area.

1630
01:14:01,220 --> 01:14:04,100
The sanitary sewer service area plan

1631
01:14:04,100 --> 01:14:06,700
is actually a plan conducted by sewer pack,

1632
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:08,860
the planning agency themselves,

1633
01:14:08,860 --> 01:14:11,380
and it establishes the service area relative

1634
01:14:11,380 --> 01:14:13,100
to neighboring utilities.

1635
01:14:13,100 --> 01:14:15,620
For example, there have already been meetings

1636
01:14:15,620 --> 01:14:18,380
coordinating these lands and the delineation

1637
01:14:18,380 --> 01:14:21,100
of what lands go to which communities

1638
01:14:22,180 --> 01:14:24,620
wastewater treatment plant between sewer pack,

1639
01:14:24,620 --> 01:14:26,660
Port Washington and Sockville.

1640
01:14:27,580 --> 01:14:30,140
Related to the water treatment plant,

1641
01:14:30,140 --> 01:14:32,100
as we've talked about at a past meeting,

1642
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:36,100
the existing capacity is adequate for existing usage,

1643
01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:40,580
which is much less than their planning request so far.

1644
01:14:42,140 --> 01:14:45,580
The next category is treatment plant site resiliency.

1645
01:14:45,580 --> 01:14:48,180
Both the water treatment plant and wastewater treatment plant

1646
01:14:48,180 --> 01:14:52,020
are on a common site at the lakefront.

1647
01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:55,060
Just heard the presentation about Valley Creek restoration,

1648
01:14:55,060 --> 01:14:59,060
and we're hoping that project starts in 2027.

1649
01:14:59,060 --> 01:15:01,340
That helps to mitigate flooding risks

1650
01:15:01,340 --> 01:15:03,260
at the water treatment plant site.

1651
01:15:04,140 --> 01:15:08,460
Bluff stabilization is slated to start in 2028.

1652
01:15:08,460 --> 01:15:11,380
The reasoning behind that is that

1653
01:15:11,380 --> 01:15:14,140
the wastewater treatment plant facility plan,

1654
01:15:14,140 --> 01:15:16,500
which is ongoing and expected to be completed

1655
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:18,820
by the end of this year,

1656
01:15:18,820 --> 01:15:22,300
is expected to show a need to expand the footprint

1657
01:15:22,300 --> 01:15:24,220
of the wastewater treatment plant.

1658
01:15:24,220 --> 01:15:27,060
One of those options could impact the bluff,

1659
01:15:27,060 --> 01:15:30,660
therefore we're kind of holding that off

1660
01:15:30,660 --> 01:15:34,460
at least in the planning until after that facility plan.

1661
01:15:34,460 --> 01:15:36,380
We understand there was a recent event there,

1662
01:15:36,380 --> 01:15:37,900
and that might need to be coordinated

1663
01:15:37,900 --> 01:15:40,140
or thought about a little bit differently,

1664
01:15:40,140 --> 01:15:43,380
but that's how that project is phased at the present time.

1665
01:15:45,900 --> 01:15:48,100
I'm not going to go through this line by line,

1666
01:15:48,100 --> 01:15:50,940
but just wanna point out that in addition to the maps

1667
01:15:50,940 --> 01:15:52,220
that we just went through,

1668
01:15:52,220 --> 01:15:55,100
these projects are listed here in this index.

1669
01:15:55,100 --> 01:15:57,380
They're color-coded according to the colors

1670
01:15:57,380 --> 01:15:59,380
that were on the previous maps,

1671
01:15:59,380 --> 01:16:02,540
and they're organized by construction start year,

1672
01:16:02,540 --> 01:16:04,580
and then they're also broken down

1673
01:16:04,580 --> 01:16:08,380
to a little bit more granular level, for example,

1674
01:16:08,380 --> 01:16:13,300
kind of this ochre yellow or pumpkin yellow, if you will,

1675
01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:16,580
is all 26-1, that's all one bid package,

1676
01:16:16,580 --> 01:16:19,060
but these four different lines just kind of list

1677
01:16:19,060 --> 01:16:21,340
the various areas and components

1678
01:16:21,340 --> 01:16:23,220
that are involved in that project.

1679
01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:30,700
Coordination with other city projects continues to be ongoing

1680
01:16:30,700 --> 01:16:33,740
between the Kapoor strand and city staff team.

1681
01:16:33,740 --> 01:16:36,780
We actually have a standing weekly meeting

1682
01:16:36,780 --> 01:16:40,220
to talk about the coordination of these projects.

1683
01:16:40,220 --> 01:16:45,060
We understand, like this plan may show you have an existing

1684
01:16:45,060 --> 01:16:48,420
or proposed 10-year capital improvement plan,

1685
01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,300
and we will continue to work to coordinate

1686
01:16:50,300 --> 01:16:51,760
those projects together.

1687
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,360
In summary, this presentation provides background

1688
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,840
for specific forthcoming project plans and decisions.

1689
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:02,240
It represents approximately $100 million

1690
01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:07,120
of city-led TID projects that are planned in the next five years.

1691
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,800
Financing is by the developer.

1692
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,240
Extensive coordination is ongoing between projects,

1693
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,000
governments and departments,

1694
01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,560
and forthcoming with the community and organizations.

1695
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:23,200
This overall plan will be revised as projects progress,

1696
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,840
but we hope that this gives you some background

1697
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:30,400
when future items are brought before Public Works Committee

1698
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:32,440
or Council for specific action.

1699
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,800
With that, we'll open it up for any questions.

1700
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:41,880
Any questions?

1701
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:44,560
This one small one.

1702
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,760
So we don't anticipate people in Canalesville

1703
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:51,680
to be able to have water until 2030.

1704
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,960
That's a great clarifying question.

1705
01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:58,360
Let me just get back there.

1706
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,800
So this map shows those projects.

1707
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:06,680
I call this the Western Canalesville area,

1708
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:12,680
and they will, water main will be installed

1709
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:16,960
by the end of next year in all of the Western portion.

1710
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,880
Water mains over here are likely to not be installed

1711
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,920
until 2028 or 2029.

1712
01:18:24,920 --> 01:18:28,240
So when you say water, does that also include the sewer?

1713
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:30,880
Gravity sewer over here,

1714
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,880
kind of from this point south,

1715
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,400
will be available to all of these properties

1716
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:38,800
by the end of 2027.

1717
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,480
And we hope, you know, construction

1718
01:18:41,480 --> 01:18:44,480
on those projects start in this year.

1719
01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:49,480
Over here, water and sewer will likely not be,

1720
01:18:49,480 --> 01:18:51,840
water may be available sooner,

1721
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:55,960
but sewer won't be available until 2029 or 2030.

1722
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,800
Thank you.

1723
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:01,200
So with the area of water,

1724
01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:06,200
it's gonna be constructed up KW and then Easton Lake.

1725
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,080
That's, I presume it's gonna connect

1726
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,920
into Vantage's line through their parcel,

1727
01:19:10,920 --> 01:19:13,880
effectively creating a loop there.

1728
01:19:15,480 --> 01:19:19,120
I'm using with a mile of private.

1729
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:23,640
Okay, so we are providing them these two points

1730
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,680
of connections and they will have a water main,

1731
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,920
I'm gonna call it a backbone that goes through their site

1732
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,320
and loops around each of their buildings.

1733
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,560
However, that water main will be private

1734
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,160
and DNR code dictates that once water

1735
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,320
leaves the public utility system

1736
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,480
and goes into a private system,

1737
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:44,920
it cannot come back into a public system.

1738
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,000
You kind of lose gene acoustity,

1739
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,640
control over the water quality and what happens to that.

1740
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:54,240
So from the standpoint of the Vantage system,

1741
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,040
the water will be looped,

1742
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,840
meaning it can flow into their site

1743
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,560
from multiple directions,

1744
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:01,840
but each of these points of connections

1745
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:03,760
will have check valves

1746
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,000
or essentially backflow preventers

1747
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:07,920
that won't let that water come back.

1748
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,800
So I know that answers your question, hopefully,

1749
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:14,800
but it also sets the table for the need

1750
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,320
to go ahead and complete the public loop

1751
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,040
kind of around the eastern side

1752
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,560
and come back here to the north.

1753
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,360
Okay, are we meter, you might not notice on it,

1754
01:20:24,360 --> 01:20:26,360
are we metering their water usage

1755
01:20:26,360 --> 01:20:28,280
then right at those points?

1756
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:29,640
Yes, great question.

1757
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:32,360
And the answer is yes, yes we are.

1758
01:20:32,360 --> 01:20:36,680
We have kind of been working through a design

1759
01:20:36,680 --> 01:20:41,680
that has a smaller meter for their normal or typical use

1760
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:44,520
and a large meter so that as they flush

1761
01:20:44,520 --> 01:20:46,520
their hydrants on site, et cetera,

1762
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:50,680
that will all be metered, sold revenue water

1763
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:51,760
for the utility.

1764
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:52,760
Okay, thank you.

1765
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,040
Any other?

1766
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:56,280
I just follow up.

1767
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:59,240
So, and because I'm not a plumber.

1768
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:03,480
So, okay, so the water is being metered at those two sites,

1769
01:21:03,480 --> 01:21:07,960
but when the sewer that's coming back out of there,

1770
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:09,960
that's part of a different plan

1771
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,640
that are not part of the loop.

1772
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,760
So, it can flow back, the wastewater

1773
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,680
can be flow back easily.

1774
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:19,680
And that's also metered somehow.

1775
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,080
Well, I will explain a little bit further

1776
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,320
how the sewer works.

1777
01:21:23,320 --> 01:21:25,440
That's a great line of questioning.

1778
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:30,440
So, the sewer will flow generally as the lay of the land does.

1779
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:33,920
So, while the water, which is pressurized,

1780
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,920
we can push that up to this northern point

1781
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,000
of connection, et cetera.

1782
01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,200
The sewer will wanna flow by gravity

1783
01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:42,920
just from north to south through the site.

1784
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:46,720
And it's all planned to come back to the southern blue star.

1785
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:49,840
At that point, we actually have a metering manhole

1786
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,320
for the sewer and plans to put in a sewer meter.

1787
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,160
So, just like any other typical customer in the city,

1788
01:21:57,160 --> 01:22:00,120
the sanitary billing will initially be set up

1789
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,800
that whatever drinking water goes through the water meter,

1790
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,440
they'll be set up to be billed the same volume of water

1791
01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:11,400
as sewer getting returned.

1792
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:15,200
But knowing that this is a very large area

1793
01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:18,560
and they could have inflow and infiltration of their own,

1794
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:21,400
we have a separate sewer metering manhole

1795
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:25,400
so that the utility every billing cycle can kind of see

1796
01:22:26,720 --> 01:22:30,320
if there's any excessive flows that need to be billed

1797
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,920
that are beyond that metered water usage.

1798
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,080
And once it's on, the loop is completed

1799
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:39,680
with those be removed or would they be,

1800
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:43,040
because they're the only property owner in that area

1801
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:44,640
or will it remain the same?

1802
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,160
Those meters will stay the same at the point of connection.

1803
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,000
So there'll be two water meters, one at each star

1804
01:22:51,000 --> 01:22:54,200
and then their sewer meter will be just downhill.

1805
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:55,880
I'm sorry, yes, downhill,

1806
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,560
but just down here at this southern star.

1807
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,800
It's important to keep those meters

1808
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:05,800
there because as the loop is completed,

1809
01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,560
that's a public loop and that gets into some

1810
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:11,520
of the adjacent Canalsville areas

1811
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,720
and the green areas here where,

1812
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:18,120
typical best practice for planning

1813
01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:21,880
is to just look at growth over the next 20 years,

1814
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:25,480
but these pipes will have a useful life of 80 to 100 years

1815
01:23:25,480 --> 01:23:27,200
and potentially even longer.

1816
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:30,360
So that's why sewer pack wanted to look at

1817
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,160
these green areas to just say,

1818
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,960
okay, but at some point,

1819
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,400
even if it's way in the future,

1820
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,800
there could be other connections there.

1821
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,720
So those would each be metered separately at that time.

1822
01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,080
Okay, this is more of a policy question

1823
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,600
that may not have been any discussion on it yet,

1824
01:23:50,600 --> 01:23:53,360
but so we're providing sewer and water

1825
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:54,440
to the Canalsville area,

1826
01:23:54,440 --> 01:23:57,480
which is forever Canalsville in the town of Port.

1827
01:23:57,480 --> 01:24:01,800
So we're running up KW, further north than Canalsville.

1828
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:05,040
So as we have utilities available there,

1829
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:08,560
if somebody in there wants to connect to it,

1830
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,320
typically if someone wants to connect to city of sewer

1831
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,480
and water, we would force them to become annexed

1832
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:14,800
into the city.

1833
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,400
Have we done any internal discussions

1834
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:20,680
as to what type of policy we should be considering

1835
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:24,200
in that area outside of the Canalsville area?

1836
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:25,520
If somebody wants connection?

1837
01:24:25,520 --> 01:24:27,920
I believe that your very own Rob

1838
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,240
is uniquely suited to answer that question.

1839
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:34,920
I thought you were going to answer it,

1840
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,000
and I was waiting to see what you said.

1841
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:42,360
No, yeah, so our policy that we tend to impose

1842
01:24:42,360 --> 01:24:43,680
would be the same as we always do.

1843
01:24:43,680 --> 01:24:46,080
So anyone outside of the Canalsville area

1844
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,280
would need to be annexed into the city

1845
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:51,600
prior to receiving sewer and water.

1846
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:53,520
We have made arrangements in the past

1847
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,280
to provide those services,

1848
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,720
but there's always an annexation agreement

1849
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:02,840
that executed where in those cases

1850
01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:04,520
where they cannot annex,

1851
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,280
that they would annex upon the ability to annex.

1852
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:13,040
So ultimately, the simple answer to your question is yes,

1853
01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:14,360
they would be required to annex

1854
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:15,920
in order to receive sewer and water.

1855
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:18,000
Okay, yeah, my concern's not so much

1856
01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:20,880
with an existing home that wants to connect to it,

1857
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,440
but I don't think outside of Canalsville,

1858
01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:25,720
we want to encourage someone to build a subdivision

1859
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,480
that we're not going to annex.

1860
01:25:27,480 --> 01:25:29,600
All right, no, definitely not.

1861
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:30,680
Okay, thank you.

1862
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:33,960
Any other questions, comments?

1863
01:25:35,160 --> 01:25:39,440
All right, there's no action on this, I don't believe so.

1864
01:25:39,440 --> 01:25:40,280
Thank you.

1865
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:45,040
That'll bring us in onto item seven.

1866
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:49,280
Presentation on 2025, 26, snow and ice control.

1867
01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:50,120
Yes, thank you.

1868
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:51,560
Yes, thank you very much.

1869
01:25:57,480 --> 01:25:58,320
Okay.

1870
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:08,040
I'll quick do an intro of this too.

1871
01:26:08,040 --> 01:26:13,040
Just I asked JD to make this presentation again this year.

1872
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,720
We made it last year,

1873
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:17,320
and that's where my memory stops.

1874
01:26:17,320 --> 01:26:19,640
I don't know if we've done it prior to that,

1875
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,720
but I'm asked him to do this

1876
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:26,080
because I'm very proud of where JD has taken

1877
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:31,080
our snow and ice control over the last five years.

1878
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:38,000
It's something that has been important to me for many years.

1879
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,400
I think JD has certainly taken us to the next level again

1880
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:45,040
and snow and ice control and probably the main,

1881
01:26:45,040 --> 01:26:47,440
well, two main takeaways I guess I'd start with

1882
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:49,720
is one, if you want to see our policy,

1883
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:54,360
it's on the website under the street department page.

1884
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,720
You can read all about the way we plow

1885
01:26:56,720 --> 01:27:00,400
and apply salt and brine.

1886
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,920
But I think a main takeaway you're going to have out of this

1887
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:08,720
is just the way we have reduced our salt usage,

1888
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:13,240
which not only saves money for the city

1889
01:27:13,240 --> 01:27:16,640
and is just as effective as the old way,

1890
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,480
which was applying really more salt

1891
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:21,800
than I think was necessary to get the job done.

1892
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:27,760
But I think there's a shift in our street department

1893
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:31,080
of a real concern for the environment.

1894
01:27:31,080 --> 01:27:36,160
Not that other guys didn't care about the environment.

1895
01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:39,080
I just think there's a greater level of awareness.

1896
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:43,920
And I also think technology and standard operations

1897
01:27:43,920 --> 01:27:47,160
have changed in the industry.

1898
01:27:47,160 --> 01:27:52,160
And so we've been able to really emphasize the importance

1899
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:58,040
of reducing the impact on stormwater runoff.

1900
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:00,560
So water is important to everyone.

1901
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,400
I like to think it's a little more important to us

1902
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,840
in Port Washington because of our connection to the lake

1903
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,000
and our streams.

1904
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,920
And so with that, I'll let JD take it away.

1905
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,080
All right, thank you.

1906
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:15,560
So just to kind of start off just a quick overview

1907
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,920
and kind of how I want to present this.

1908
01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,800
If you had this presentation last year,

1909
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,280
it's a little bit similar, but things do change year to year.

1910
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,240
So there will be some changes.

1911
01:28:24,240 --> 01:28:25,520
So the first thing is we kind of go over

1912
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,240
like the snow and ice policy, which Rob said

1913
01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:29,680
is on the city website.

1914
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:31,920
And then kind of talk about some of the strategies

1915
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:33,800
and decision making that we do,

1916
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:37,080
talk about equipment and new technology that we implement

1917
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,040
and then last kind of go over the results

1918
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:40,920
of all three of those things.

1919
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,000
So the first thing kind of the backbone of our operation

1920
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,400
is our snow and ice policy.

1921
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,400
Again, if you're interested, it's on the city website.

1922
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,200
It's a really good resource.

1923
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,600
It kind of will answer any question you have

1924
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,080
going from, you know, like what routes we have,

1925
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:02,240
how many employees we have that get involved

1926
01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:04,920
with snow and ice to, if we hit your mailbox,

1927
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:06,120
what's the city's policy?

1928
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,040
So there's a lot of good information in there.

1929
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,800
And that's again, the backbone of why we do everything.

1930
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:14,600
So like the one thing that I want to highlight out of it

1931
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:17,440
is kind of the executive summary in the background.

1932
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:18,480
I'm not gonna read the whole thing,

1933
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:20,520
but the first part's important.

1934
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,320
So the city's poor Washington snow and ice policy

1935
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,680
is focused on delivering a service

1936
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,800
that is designed for safe travel in winter months,

1937
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,240
but is also environmentally friendly and cost effective.

1938
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:34,080
So those are really our goals when it comes to snow and ice,

1939
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:36,840
making it safe for pedestrians,

1940
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,560
whether it's on foot or vehicle,

1941
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:42,920
being environmentally conscious and then cost effective.

1942
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:46,440
But we're gonna do that through best management practices,

1943
01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:49,800
which we're gonna talk about over the next couple of slides.

1944
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,320
And then again, the environmental impact,

1945
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,000
like Rob stated, water is very important here.

1946
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,400
We live on Lake Michigan.

1947
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:01,920
You're not gonna shut it off.

1948
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,000
That's okay.

1949
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:04,840
It's okay.

1950
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:09,840
So is the environmental impact?

1951
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,440
So salt is a permanent pollutant.

1952
01:30:12,440 --> 01:30:14,320
So anything that we put down eventually

1953
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,960
is gonna make it into our catch basins,

1954
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,520
which is eventually gonna make it into our storm water,

1955
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:20,360
which is eventually gonna make it into Lake Michigan.

1956
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,080
And that permanent pollutant is something

1957
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:23,360
we can never take out of it.

1958
01:30:23,360 --> 01:30:24,840
And where do we get our drinking water?

1959
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:25,720
Lake Michigan.

1960
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:29,600
So some of the objectives,

1961
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,160
so like why do we go out for snow and ice?

1962
01:30:32,160 --> 01:30:34,400
So the first one is kind of like during the storm,

1963
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:38,200
we wanna minimize hazards for pedestrians and motorists.

1964
01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:40,480
We wanna do our best while it's snowing

1965
01:30:40,480 --> 01:30:42,880
to make roads passable.

1966
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:44,280
Depending on intensity to the storm,

1967
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:47,720
that can be pretty simple or that can be very complex.

1968
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:51,160
And then the next one is once the storm is over,

1969
01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,080
we wanna restore conditions

1970
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:56,640
to the general public as soon as possible.

1971
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:58,680
So if it's done snowing at midnight,

1972
01:30:58,680 --> 01:31:00,040
we're coming in at three o'clock.

1973
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:01,600
And by the time most people get up

1974
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,480
and go to school or go to work,

1975
01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:05,520
the roads are in good order.

1976
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:08,440
And then last is provide a level of service

1977
01:31:08,440 --> 01:31:11,060
that is fiscally and environmentally responsible.

1978
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:15,600
So one of the big changes that we made

1979
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:18,280
is kind of coming up with like a level of service

1980
01:31:18,280 --> 01:31:19,840
and determining classes of roads.

1981
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,280
So like when we go out,

1982
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:22,680
especially like during a storm,

1983
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,680
like we have our priorities.

1984
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,920
So the main classes of roads are the first one

1985
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:28,720
are like the mains,

1986
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:31,520
which is essentially highway 32 and highway 33.

1987
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:34,200
So Grand Avenue, Spring Street, North Wisconsin,

1988
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:35,200
those are our mains.

1989
01:31:35,200 --> 01:31:38,800
And we include in that the hills downtown.

1990
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:40,840
So South Wisconsin,

1991
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,680
Van Buren, Webster, Washington, Milwaukee,

1992
01:31:43,680 --> 01:31:46,120
because of the steep grades that they're on

1993
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,800
and where they are, things can get ugly pretty quick.

1994
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:51,320
So those are included with the mains.

1995
01:31:51,320 --> 01:31:53,760
The next are collectors.

1996
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,240
So those are like Port View,

1997
01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:58,480
Holden, Northport, Hales Trails,

1998
01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:00,520
kind of like medium sized traffic.

1999
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:03,080
And then last is like your residential roads,

2000
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:07,040
which is pretty much, you know, low volume stop signs,

2001
01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:08,440
pretty much the people and your neighbors

2002
01:32:08,440 --> 01:32:11,360
are the ones that are driving on those roads.

2003
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,480
So now what kind of level of service do we give those?

2004
01:32:13,480 --> 01:32:16,080
So the mains and collectors are gonna be our top priority.

2005
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,160
And especially like during a storm,

2006
01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:20,080
that's typically where you're gonna see our trucks.

2007
01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,160
We're not really worried about residential streets

2008
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,560
until we get a considerable amount of snow

2009
01:32:24,560 --> 01:32:27,640
or it's done plowing and these roads are taken care of.

2010
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:30,000
So having that focus on the mains and collectors

2011
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:32,360
and then residential streets kind of as a secondary,

2012
01:32:32,360 --> 01:32:34,040
but then also the way we treat that.

2013
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:37,240
So mains and collectors are plowed curb to curb

2014
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:39,640
and those are salted at their entire length.

2015
01:32:39,640 --> 01:32:42,560
Residential streets are plowed, also plowed curb to curb,

2016
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:46,280
but those are only salted at Hales, Curves and Intersections.

2017
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,760
So just that simple policy is reducing the amount

2018
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,120
of salt you're putting down.

2019
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:53,320
We're not salting everything.

2020
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,540
That used to be what we did when I first started.

2021
01:32:56,540 --> 01:32:57,380
Why?

2022
01:32:57,380 --> 01:32:58,220
Cause it's easy.

2023
01:32:58,220 --> 01:32:59,060
You don't have to train people.

2024
01:32:59,360 --> 01:33:01,760
Just tell them after a storm, you salt everything.

2025
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:02,760
This takes training.

2026
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:06,240
It gets guys to understand the classifications of roads,

2027
01:33:06,240 --> 01:33:09,440
but just simply not salting every lane mile

2028
01:33:09,440 --> 01:33:11,120
is gonna reduce salt usage.

2029
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:17,040
So these are some of the snowy ice control procedures

2030
01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:18,360
that we use.

2031
01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:19,680
So like anti-icing.

2032
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:21,960
So that's like before a storm, we go out

2033
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:23,960
and it's typically on the mains, hills and collectors

2034
01:33:23,960 --> 01:33:26,000
that we focus on, but we'll spray the roads.

2035
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:27,840
So that's where you see the white lines.

2036
01:33:27,860 --> 01:33:30,100
Really, all that's doing is preventing snow

2037
01:33:30,100 --> 01:33:32,020
and ice from bonding to the pavement.

2038
01:33:32,020 --> 01:33:34,020
So you're gonna melt a little bit of snow,

2039
01:33:34,020 --> 01:33:36,120
but really what that's doing is gonna give you better traction.

2040
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,820
It's not allowing like an ice to form or a hard pack.

2041
01:33:38,820 --> 01:33:40,020
So you're gonna get better traction,

2042
01:33:40,020 --> 01:33:42,780
but more importantly, once we start to scrape,

2043
01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:44,340
you're gonna get a clean scrape,

2044
01:33:44,340 --> 01:33:46,700
which means you're salting less.

2045
01:33:46,700 --> 01:33:48,780
The next one is plowing.

2046
01:33:48,780 --> 01:33:50,740
I think that's probably the easiest one

2047
01:33:50,740 --> 01:33:51,700
and the one you see the most,

2048
01:33:51,700 --> 01:33:54,740
but that's the mechanical removal of snow.

2049
01:33:54,740 --> 01:33:57,580
It's the most efficient way to remove snow

2050
01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,640
and it's also the one that's gonna give you

2051
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:03,000
the greatest reduction in salt.

2052
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:04,480
And a lot of people will see us

2053
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:07,800
we're out plowing like an inch of snow.

2054
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,880
Those are our biggest salt savers

2055
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,080
rather than going out and just trying to melt

2056
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,400
that amount of snow by being able to plow it

2057
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:15,720
and then minimizing your salt.

2058
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,120
That's our greatest reduction in salt usage.

2059
01:34:20,160 --> 01:34:21,560
The next term is just deicing.

2060
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,800
So that's like during a storm, us putting salt down

2061
01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:27,780
on top of snow to try to create a brine,

2062
01:34:27,780 --> 01:34:30,340
which enables us to remove snow more easily.

2063
01:34:30,340 --> 01:34:31,700
And then last is pre-wetting.

2064
01:34:31,700 --> 01:34:36,700
And that's just us applying liquid at the spinner,

2065
01:34:36,700 --> 01:34:38,820
which activates salt, salt needs moisture.

2066
01:34:38,820 --> 01:34:39,980
So by adding a liquid to it,

2067
01:34:39,980 --> 01:34:41,340
you're activating the salt faster

2068
01:34:41,340 --> 01:34:43,540
and it also reduces scatter,

2069
01:34:43,540 --> 01:34:45,220
which means more your salt ends up

2070
01:34:45,220 --> 01:34:46,180
in the middle of the road,

2071
01:34:46,180 --> 01:34:48,940
rather than in the curb line where you don't need it.

2072
01:34:51,700 --> 01:34:53,940
So liquids, that's a big part of what we do.

2073
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:55,560
This has become really popular,

2074
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:57,120
I'd say over the last like 10 years,

2075
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:59,440
but especially the last five years.

2076
01:34:59,440 --> 01:35:01,480
So we use two different types of liquids.

2077
01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:03,440
The first one is salt brine.

2078
01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:04,680
We use that when the road temperatures

2079
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,240
are above 23 degrees.

2080
01:35:07,200 --> 01:35:08,560
Air temperatures are important,

2081
01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,880
but to us pavement temperatures are what's most important.

2082
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:13,080
So that's what we go by.

2083
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,080
We have road temperature sensors in our trucks.

2084
01:35:16,080 --> 01:35:18,120
So salt brine, all it is a salt and water

2085
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:19,800
mixed at a certain ratio.

2086
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,040
We get it from the County.

2087
01:35:21,900 --> 01:35:25,260
And then the next one is a beat heat mix.

2088
01:35:25,260 --> 01:35:30,100
So we use this one road temps are lower than 23 degrees.

2089
01:35:30,100 --> 01:35:32,580
It's a mixture of a 30% beat heat.

2090
01:35:32,580 --> 01:35:34,420
So we get it at full concentrate.

2091
01:35:34,420 --> 01:35:36,140
So we mix it ourselves.

2092
01:35:36,140 --> 01:35:40,060
So it's a 30% beat heat and 70% salt brine.

2093
01:35:40,060 --> 01:35:42,660
And what this does is it increases the melting capacity,

2094
01:35:42,660 --> 01:35:45,100
but it also can use it in lower temperatures.

2095
01:35:46,100 --> 01:35:47,660
When temperatures get low,

2096
01:35:47,660 --> 01:35:49,460
salt doesn't work nearly as effective.

2097
01:35:49,480 --> 01:35:52,240
So you have to add a deicer to it,

2098
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,000
which is a beat heat mix.

2099
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:57,120
And really all it is, it's a liquid deicer.

2100
01:35:57,120 --> 01:35:59,080
It uses refined beat molasses.

2101
01:35:59,080 --> 01:36:00,640
That's where it gets its name.

2102
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,760
But it also has carbohydrates and chlorides,

2103
01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,400
which help melt ice.

2104
01:36:05,400 --> 01:36:07,080
It's a more environmentally friendly

2105
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:10,120
due to biodegradability and lower corrosion rate.

2106
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:13,220
So we tend to use this rather than like a straight

2107
01:36:13,220 --> 01:36:15,040
calcium chloride.

2108
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,840
That's very corrosive, a straight calcium chloride.

2109
01:36:17,860 --> 01:36:19,540
It's cheap, but it's very corrosive

2110
01:36:19,540 --> 01:36:21,260
and it's susceptible to re-freezing.

2111
01:36:21,260 --> 01:36:24,220
So we go with a, it'll be pay a little bit more,

2112
01:36:24,220 --> 01:36:25,940
but we found it's worked very good.

2113
01:36:25,940 --> 01:36:27,500
And it's a lot less corrosive.

2114
01:36:30,660 --> 01:36:32,340
So this is our liquid storage.

2115
01:36:32,340 --> 01:36:34,100
This is at our shed.

2116
01:36:34,100 --> 01:36:36,500
So the two tanks on the left,

2117
01:36:36,500 --> 01:36:38,220
those are both 5,000 gallon tanks.

2118
01:36:38,220 --> 01:36:40,140
Those are salt brine.

2119
01:36:40,140 --> 01:36:42,260
And then the smaller tank, the third tank

2120
01:36:42,260 --> 01:36:45,540
is a 3000 gallon tank that we get delivered straight

2121
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,160
and then the one furthest to the right is the mix.

2122
01:36:49,160 --> 01:36:51,600
So we can use a brine in the straight,

2123
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,160
the short tank to make our mix on the right.

2124
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,880
So this is one of our anti-aging trucks.

2125
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,320
So this is a truck that you'd see all

2126
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,480
kind of before a storm put in the stripes down.

2127
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:07,280
Our new tandem that we got this year

2128
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:08,840
also has the capability of that.

2129
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,200
So now we can send out two trucks before a storm.

2130
01:37:11,200 --> 01:37:13,280
So we do a little bit more lane mileage.

2131
01:37:16,540 --> 01:37:18,760
And as far as liquid,

2132
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:21,240
so you can see the trucks on the left.

2133
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,400
If you look on the back of the truck on the tailgates,

2134
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,880
those are 150 gallon tanks.

2135
01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,480
So we bought those in 2021

2136
01:37:30,480 --> 01:37:33,120
and retrofitted trucks that we already had.

2137
01:37:33,120 --> 01:37:36,400
So this kind of got us into the liquid game

2138
01:37:36,400 --> 01:37:39,760
by putting those trucks, those tanks on the trucks.

2139
01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:43,080
And that's used to treat the salt at the spinner.

2140
01:37:43,100 --> 01:37:46,860
Again, kind of activating that salt faster.

2141
01:37:46,860 --> 01:37:49,220
And then the newer trucks that we've built since

2142
01:37:49,220 --> 01:37:52,020
actually have the tanks right behind the cab.

2143
01:37:52,020 --> 01:37:54,140
The benefit of that is you don't have to take them off.

2144
01:37:54,140 --> 01:37:55,860
So if we have the haul snow in winter,

2145
01:37:55,860 --> 01:37:57,620
we're not having to take like the tanks

2146
01:37:57,620 --> 01:37:59,660
off the back of the tailgate to dump.

2147
01:37:59,660 --> 01:38:02,300
So those tanks are staying the trucks all year.

2148
01:38:05,060 --> 01:38:06,540
Plow routes.

2149
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:11,540
So when we do full-scale plowing, we have 14 employees.

2150
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,520
So myself and then nine full-time guys

2151
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:18,080
at the street department, three park and rec employees,

2152
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:21,080
and then one employee at the water utility.

2153
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,280
So on the roads, we have 11 routes.

2154
01:38:24,280 --> 01:38:27,000
We have six five-yard single axle dump trucks,

2155
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:28,280
two tandems.

2156
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:33,280
Those are all equipped with front plows, wings,

2157
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:34,760
salters and liquid.

2158
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:37,840
Five years ago, we had four salters.

2159
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:39,360
Now we have eight salters.

2160
01:38:39,380 --> 01:38:41,860
It makes a big difference after a storm,

2161
01:38:41,860 --> 01:38:45,420
getting the salt down quicker and kind of restoring roads.

2162
01:38:45,420 --> 01:38:47,940
And then we also have three loaders.

2163
01:38:47,940 --> 01:38:51,140
Those do a lot of like cul-de-sacs, dead ends.

2164
01:38:51,140 --> 01:38:52,860
And that's the only thing that after a storm,

2165
01:38:52,860 --> 01:38:56,100
now it has to get salted are those loader routes.

2166
01:38:56,100 --> 01:38:57,940
We also have two alley routes.

2167
01:38:57,940 --> 01:38:59,220
We do those with a pickup truck.

2168
01:38:59,220 --> 01:39:02,420
And then we actually have a tractor with a front plow.

2169
01:39:02,420 --> 01:39:04,380
And then we have three sidewalk routes

2170
01:39:04,380 --> 01:39:07,580
that we do with compact equipment and then parking lots.

2171
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:10,800
So all together, we have 16 routes, 14 guys.

2172
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:13,720
So after we're done plowing,

2173
01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:16,760
park and rec employees will take care of sidewalks.

2174
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:19,000
So that's kind of the way till everything is done.

2175
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,400
And then we go out on sidewalks.

2176
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,160
Let's talk a little bit about growth.

2177
01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:25,560
So over the last like six years,

2178
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,560
we've had like 2.6 miles of additional growth.

2179
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:36,720
So that's actually 5.2 miles of plowing for lane miles.

2180
01:39:36,740 --> 01:39:39,700
So that's Farmview, Sex Engine, Newport, Vista,

2181
01:39:39,700 --> 01:39:42,560
Highland Point, Greystone, Joseph Court,

2182
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,100
Spruce, Hidden Hills.

2183
01:39:45,100 --> 01:39:47,220
And that's all on the west side.

2184
01:39:47,220 --> 01:39:49,900
You know, we are now having growth on the north.

2185
01:39:49,900 --> 01:39:53,260
And I think we're gonna have future expansion to the north.

2186
01:39:53,260 --> 01:39:56,400
So that growth on the west side has been pretty consistent.

2187
01:40:00,180 --> 01:40:01,180
Just some more of our equipment.

2188
01:40:01,180 --> 01:40:02,300
So we have the two tandems.

2189
01:40:02,300 --> 01:40:05,300
So the truck on the left, that's a brand new truck.

2190
01:40:05,300 --> 01:40:08,720
So that has the capacity to haul like 600 gallons of liquid

2191
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:10,560
and 12 tons of salt.

2192
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:13,360
And then it also has a spray bar on the back,

2193
01:40:13,360 --> 01:40:15,960
which is a nice option, especially like during a storm.

2194
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:17,600
If the temperatures are right, a little bit warmer,

2195
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:19,720
we actually don't apply like any salt on the mains.

2196
01:40:19,720 --> 01:40:22,760
We'll just plow and apply liquid brine.

2197
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,840
So, and then that's one of our three loaders on the right.

2198
01:40:28,480 --> 01:40:32,200
This has probably been the biggest game changer for us.

2199
01:40:32,200 --> 01:40:33,680
You know, I go into like some of these seminars

2200
01:40:33,700 --> 01:40:34,520
and there's a lot of,

2201
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:36,220
everyone talks about salt reduction

2202
01:40:36,220 --> 01:40:38,380
and being environmentally friendly.

2203
01:40:38,380 --> 01:40:41,260
But at the same time, everybody knows that,

2204
01:40:41,260 --> 01:40:43,060
you know, you have to use salt.

2205
01:40:43,060 --> 01:40:44,980
It's one of our greatest tools.

2206
01:40:44,980 --> 01:40:49,980
But to me, I think the more you can plow and remove the snow,

2207
01:40:49,980 --> 01:40:51,420
the less you have to salt.

2208
01:40:51,420 --> 01:40:54,180
So these metal plus plows, we now have four of them.

2209
01:40:54,180 --> 01:40:55,420
And if you look at the bottom,

2210
01:40:55,420 --> 01:40:57,180
you can kind of see how that plow

2211
01:40:57,180 --> 01:40:59,420
matches the contour of the road perfectly.

2212
01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:03,720
So a traditional plow would be an 11 or a 12 foot

2213
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:04,960
straight carbide edge.

2214
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,800
So if that plow was sitting on that road,

2215
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,920
half of it would probably be about four inches off the road.

2216
01:41:10,920 --> 01:41:11,920
So you're not scraping anything.

2217
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:13,820
You're leaving that amount of snow behind

2218
01:41:13,820 --> 01:41:15,800
where these plows will match the contour of the road

2219
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,800
and get pretty much every little bit of snow off.

2220
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,960
So when we're done going through,

2221
01:41:19,960 --> 01:41:21,160
you're almost on a bare of pavement,

2222
01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:23,880
which means you have very minimal salt needed,

2223
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:26,480
especially like early in the year and late in the year.

2224
01:41:26,480 --> 01:41:27,600
I mean, February and January,

2225
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:28,760
we need to have super cold temperatures.

2226
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,940
You're going to get that hard pack.

2227
01:41:30,940 --> 01:41:33,460
But these get you down to pretty much the bare pavement.

2228
01:41:33,460 --> 01:41:36,300
And I can tell you, I plow on the north end

2229
01:41:36,300 --> 01:41:41,180
and East Norport, we all know is not that great of a road.

2230
01:41:41,180 --> 01:41:43,380
Traditionally, like especially January and February,

2231
01:41:43,380 --> 01:41:45,740
that road hard packs super bad

2232
01:41:45,740 --> 01:41:48,100
because during a storm, it gets a ton of traffic,

2233
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:50,100
which means it's packing the snow down

2234
01:41:50,100 --> 01:41:53,340
and then you can't get all the little dips and stuff.

2235
01:41:53,340 --> 01:41:55,620
Well, this year we had this plow on that road.

2236
01:41:55,620 --> 01:41:57,500
And like during the storms,

2237
01:41:57,520 --> 01:41:59,560
it's down to like bare pavement and restored

2238
01:41:59,560 --> 01:42:01,840
to like wide open like the next day.

2239
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:04,200
So these plows make a huge difference.

2240
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:07,840
And then just talk a little bit about training

2241
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:08,760
and calibration.

2242
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,640
It's like every year myself and the guys

2243
01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:12,680
do some sort of training,

2244
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:17,680
whether it's through APWA or Salt Wise

2245
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:19,200
and the Milwaukee River Keepers

2246
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:21,520
down at the Freshwater Science and Milwaukee.

2247
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,920
Just talking about new industry standards,

2248
01:42:23,920 --> 01:42:26,080
salt reduction strategies.

2249
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:27,360
The other thing is just making sure

2250
01:42:27,380 --> 01:42:29,300
that our equipment isn't good working orders.

2251
01:42:29,300 --> 01:42:33,300
Like when we set our, our Salters to 200 pounds per lane mile,

2252
01:42:33,300 --> 01:42:34,780
we know that's what we're putting down.

2253
01:42:34,780 --> 01:42:36,660
We're not putting down 400.

2254
01:42:36,660 --> 01:42:37,980
So every year we go through equipment

2255
01:42:37,980 --> 01:42:39,620
and make sure that it's dialed in.

2256
01:42:43,780 --> 01:42:46,620
Weather, the biggest, the hardest thing is,

2257
01:42:46,620 --> 01:42:48,140
is knowing what the weather's gonna be.

2258
01:42:48,140 --> 01:42:49,460
I always say, if you can tell me

2259
01:42:49,460 --> 01:42:50,580
when it's gonna start snowing,

2260
01:42:50,580 --> 01:42:51,500
when it's gonna stop snowing,

2261
01:42:51,500 --> 01:42:53,420
how much we're gonna get the decision making process

2262
01:42:53,420 --> 01:42:54,260
is pretty easy.

2263
01:42:54,260 --> 01:42:56,180
It's never that easy.

2264
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:58,680
Because the weather's always a gamble, you know?

2265
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,200
So yeah, we watch the local weather.

2266
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:03,640
I do have ties over at Ozaukee County.

2267
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,000
They get weather through the DOT,

2268
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,120
which is pretty accurate, forecasting.

2269
01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:08,680
But then we also have these.

2270
01:43:08,680 --> 01:43:10,080
So it's an R-West.

2271
01:43:10,080 --> 01:43:11,760
It's a road weather information system.

2272
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:14,400
So we have one of these at Grand Avenue

2273
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,360
and Summit and Tower.

2274
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,080
So it's a camera, which is super nice.

2275
01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:20,320
So I could call the middle of night.

2276
01:43:20,320 --> 01:43:22,560
I don't have to, I can check out what the camera's doing,

2277
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:24,200
but this also gives me pavement temperature,

2278
01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:25,080
which is huge.

2279
01:43:26,060 --> 01:43:28,300
Air temperatures, wind speeds,

2280
01:43:28,300 --> 01:43:31,960
it'll give me a local forecast for us specifically.

2281
01:43:32,900 --> 01:43:35,820
So it'll give me projected snowfall totals,

2282
01:43:35,820 --> 01:43:38,860
snowfall intensity, humidity, dewpoint,

2283
01:43:38,860 --> 01:43:42,460
all those little things that try to make my job easier.

2284
01:43:42,460 --> 01:43:43,920
I was making a decision.

2285
01:43:47,020 --> 01:43:50,100
Here's a little history on salt usage.

2286
01:43:50,100 --> 01:43:51,580
So this is the last 12 years.

2287
01:43:51,580 --> 01:43:54,020
So on the left there, you can see

2288
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:56,440
that was before we got liquid.

2289
01:43:56,440 --> 01:43:57,920
And I'm not saying liquid is the only thing

2290
01:43:57,920 --> 01:43:59,560
a part of this is our strategy.

2291
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:04,080
But you can see, on the left there, 700 tons,

2292
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:08,080
1300 tons, 800 tons, 850,000, and 202600.

2293
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:11,240
And then on the right, you can kind of see

2294
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,640
those numbers tend to get a little bit lower.

2295
01:44:12,640 --> 01:44:17,640
So 594, 60, 350, 475, 550, 320, 321 for this year so far.

2296
01:44:19,480 --> 01:44:20,800
So you can see there's a general trend.

2297
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,800
And again, not every year's apples, the apples,

2298
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:23,880
but there's a general trend there

2299
01:44:24,020 --> 01:44:26,660
that we are significantly lowering our salt usage.

2300
01:44:28,140 --> 01:44:31,580
This I thought was pretty telling.

2301
01:44:31,580 --> 01:44:34,020
So I was able to get some numbers from Grafton.

2302
01:44:34,020 --> 01:44:37,980
So you can see since 2020, we're using about half

2303
01:44:37,980 --> 01:44:39,700
as much as salt as our neighbor.

2304
01:44:39,700 --> 01:44:42,980
And really pretty close comparison as far as size.

2305
01:44:42,980 --> 01:44:44,740
So they were doing a pretty good job

2306
01:44:44,740 --> 01:44:46,500
as far as reducing salt.

2307
01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:49,080
I said these numbers are almost in half every year.

2308
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:53,740
You know, and the biggest thing is like, you know,

2309
01:44:53,740 --> 01:44:55,720
it's a fluid process.

2310
01:44:55,720 --> 01:44:58,560
We just had our kind of end of the year review

2311
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:01,140
with all the guys last week kind of talking about like,

2312
01:45:01,140 --> 01:45:04,460
you know, changes that we made going into this season,

2313
01:45:04,460 --> 01:45:08,020
how those changes worked, kind of tweaking things,

2314
01:45:08,020 --> 01:45:09,140
looking into next year already,

2315
01:45:09,140 --> 01:45:11,180
well, everything's still fresh ahead.

2316
01:45:11,180 --> 01:45:12,680
So every year things change a little bit,

2317
01:45:12,680 --> 01:45:15,920
whether it's how we handle routes,

2318
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,320
getting new technology, new equipment.

2319
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:20,680
We're always looking to improve the process

2320
01:45:20,680 --> 01:45:23,580
and the procedure and then just kind of do a review

2321
01:45:23,580 --> 01:45:24,540
at the end of the year.

2322
01:45:24,540 --> 01:45:28,480
So I'm glad it's done for the year.

2323
01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:30,680
This time of the year is always good for me.

2324
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:32,240
I like trying to sleep through the night.

2325
01:45:32,240 --> 01:45:33,520
Yeah, hopefully we're done.

2326
01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:38,560
But yeah, I mean, I give a huge credit to the guys too.

2327
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,560
You know, when we first talked about like, all right guys,

2328
01:45:40,560 --> 01:45:41,680
we're not gonna salt everything.

2329
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:42,880
Well, it was kind of like, all right.

2330
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,240
But like, you know, it takes years,

2331
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,640
but we've gotten a lot of buy into the guys.

2332
01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,520
So a lot of that is a credit to them.

2333
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:50,200
They do take a lot of pride

2334
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:53,400
in trying to reduce salt usage.

2335
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:54,760
Well, still providing, you know,

2336
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:56,760
safe traveling for the general public.

2337
01:45:58,000 --> 01:45:59,760
You know, I give those guys a lot of credit.

2338
01:45:59,760 --> 01:46:01,800
You know, it's not just me, it's a team effort.

2339
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,840
And the biggest thing is like, is their dedication.

2340
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,800
You know, it's not a fun guys give up weekends up north

2341
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:09,880
or plans with their family.

2342
01:46:09,880 --> 01:46:11,240
I think they all know like, you know,

2343
01:46:11,240 --> 01:46:12,800
if it's gonna snow on Christmas,

2344
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:14,360
we're gonna be in working.

2345
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:17,760
So again, just a huge credit to those guys,

2346
01:46:17,760 --> 01:46:18,760
credit to the team.

2347
01:46:20,360 --> 01:46:21,960
And yeah, I'm glad it's done for the year.

2348
01:46:21,960 --> 01:46:24,620
So with that, I'll take any questions.

2349
01:46:29,160 --> 01:46:30,720
Any questions?

2350
01:46:30,720 --> 01:46:31,800
No?

2351
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:32,960
Yes, thank you.

2352
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:33,960
Report.

2353
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:35,440
Yeah.

2354
01:46:35,440 --> 01:46:39,120
All right, then we'll move on to item eight.

2355
01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,440
Consideration and possible action on construction change

2356
01:46:42,440 --> 01:46:44,760
order five at the water treatment plant.

2357
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:49,360
Roger will take this one.

2358
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:52,120
Dan was supposed to be here tonight,

2359
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:55,440
but he was traveling and is being delayed.

2360
01:46:55,440 --> 01:46:59,440
So, Roger's all along.

2361
01:46:59,440 --> 01:47:00,280
All right.

2362
01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:05,560
So remember, last board meeting,

2363
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,720
maybe it was two board meetings ago.

2364
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:09,360
He says we brought to change or we said,

2365
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:12,240
hey, our contingencies used up.

2366
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:15,800
So since then, we've met with the general government

2367
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:19,440
finance committee, kind of talked to him about

2368
01:47:19,440 --> 01:47:21,200
what we see as change orders coming up,

2369
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:25,080
what sort of, what we're anticipating and needing

2370
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,040
and money, it's roughly a little bit over a million dollars.

2371
01:47:31,120 --> 01:47:33,560
The water plants in good shape fiscally

2372
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:35,200
that the money's there in reserve.

2373
01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:38,880
So that's essentially what's funding this change order.

2374
01:47:39,720 --> 01:47:44,720
So you can see this change order is almost 680,000 dollars.

2375
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:47,160
Again, I'll knock on wood.

2376
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,680
I think this puts us in pretty good shape

2377
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:51,480
of staying underneath the amount

2378
01:47:52,440 --> 01:47:55,360
that we worked out with the general government

2379
01:47:55,360 --> 01:47:56,520
and finance committee.

2380
01:47:57,520 --> 01:48:01,120
I want to highlight a couple items

2381
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:03,320
in this change order specifically.

2382
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:08,280
So item 54, the vacuum prime system.

2383
01:48:10,280 --> 01:48:12,120
Last change order you approved buying it

2384
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:13,760
because there's a long lead time.

2385
01:48:13,760 --> 01:48:16,400
It's something we need to have to make the pump,

2386
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:18,080
to make the raw water pumps work,

2387
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:20,000
which is the very first process

2388
01:48:20,000 --> 01:48:22,640
of making clean water for people to drink.

2389
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:29,360
For whatever reason was not included in original design,

2390
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:31,000
so it had to be added.

2391
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:37,600
So that's almost 88,000 dollars of this.

2392
01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:40,000
Item 55, chemical green changes.

2393
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:42,760
That's another 122, another big ticket item.

2394
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:46,480
So that work also is not currently done.

2395
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:54,320
But in the garage of plant two,

2396
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:58,320
we have basically is our polyphosphate tank,

2397
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:02,320
which is a critical chemical I have for our processes.

2398
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,760
It basically provides a corrosion control.

2399
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:09,400
If that tank were to get damaged or leak,

2400
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,400
or leak because it's damaged or leak anyway,

2401
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:13,880
I mean, basically we're shut down.

2402
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:17,840
We need to add this chemical to our process.

2403
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:20,400
So it's in the garage.

2404
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:23,760
It is at risk to get hit by vehicle.

2405
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,360
Somebody comes in, whatever,

2406
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:26,960
looking at their phone in their car.

2407
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:28,400
So far it hasn't happened,

2408
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,880
but it's a risk that we're there.

2409
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:33,360
The other thing that happened

2410
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:38,360
is the electrical component design

2411
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:43,400
for the water plant was largely specified

2412
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:47,880
with the intent that it was going to sort of be design built.

2413
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:52,360
Well, it turns out they needed the back wall of this garage

2414
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:53,760
where this tank is located

2415
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:57,200
to put many of their electrical components.

2416
01:49:57,200 --> 01:50:00,080
And in a cold reason state,

2417
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,880
they need four feet of clearance.

2418
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:04,520
So all of that combined,

2419
01:50:04,520 --> 01:50:07,640
as we just said, it's best to move this tank

2420
01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:10,720
to its own separate facility,

2421
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:14,080
remove the risk of it getting damage inadvertently,

2422
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:17,240
put it in cold compliance with the electrical.

2423
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:20,400
It couldn't go, we have a room available

2424
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:24,160
with the chlorine storage, but they need to be separated.

2425
01:50:24,160 --> 01:50:25,920
So the room is big enough,

2426
01:50:25,920 --> 01:50:28,720
but essentially we have to build a second room

2427
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:30,920
for this tank.

2428
01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:32,480
And then this cost also includes

2429
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:35,120
then all the subsequent plumbing and stuff

2430
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,880
then the rewrote the lines for the chemical.

2431
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:46,080
Item 57, $15,000.

2432
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:49,960
This essentially is a mistake on our engineer.

2433
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:52,320
They'll be reimbursing us for this cost.

2434
01:50:53,320 --> 01:50:56,040
It's included in this change order.

2435
01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:58,160
We have a contract with CD Smith.

2436
01:50:58,160 --> 01:50:59,760
We will pay CD Smith.

2437
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:02,080
And likely what will happen is we'll just deduct it

2438
01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:04,600
from our engineer's next pay request.

2439
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:08,760
Unless they want to send a check separately.

2440
01:51:08,760 --> 01:51:09,600
But.

2441
01:51:12,560 --> 01:51:17,040
And then the largest item on here, almost 300,000,

2442
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:21,080
is we want to change the filter media in plant one.

2443
01:51:21,120 --> 01:51:23,560
And slightly, this also includes plant two,

2444
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:26,240
but it's largely plant one item.

2445
01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:31,240
So plant one filters were redone in the late 90s,

2446
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:34,360
I want to say.

2447
01:51:37,120 --> 01:51:41,160
And when they started the design of this project

2448
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:46,360
in 2018, 2017 and that they tested a filter

2449
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:48,560
about everything about SPACs.

2450
01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,680
But here were 10 years later,

2451
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,080
the material has typically a 30 to 40 year design life.

2452
01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:57,240
So we're getting close to that.

2453
01:51:57,240 --> 01:52:02,240
And we're changing the,

2454
01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:07,760
we have to change the material in plant two.

2455
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:10,000
Plant two has a water back wash system.

2456
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,520
Plant one has an air wash system.

2457
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:14,840
So the design was include plant two

2458
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:18,800
is to change the filter, change it to air, air backwash,

2459
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:20,640
which is a more efficient process.

2460
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:25,720
So plant two is covered.

2461
01:52:25,720 --> 01:52:29,480
So then as we're going through this,

2462
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,760
the plant used to for taste and order control

2463
01:52:35,720 --> 01:52:37,920
add a powdered carbon.

2464
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,000
It was a tank on the second floor.

2465
01:52:41,000 --> 01:52:43,800
They had to climb a ladder with a 50 pound bag

2466
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:47,440
of this powdered carbon, which is charcoal dust

2467
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:49,640
for lack of a better word.

2468
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:52,040
And dumping it into this tank makes it up,

2469
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:56,520
send it, it was very, it would not pass any health

2470
01:52:56,520 --> 01:53:01,200
and safety requirements at this point in time.

2471
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:02,520
So that's been eliminated.

2472
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,480
So we'd like to change the granular

2473
01:53:05,480 --> 01:53:09,360
or the anthracite carbon that's in the filters

2474
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:12,160
to what's called granular activated carbon,

2475
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:17,840
which is more of a powdery substance,

2476
01:53:17,840 --> 01:53:19,720
the acronym for it is GAC.

2477
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,600
So the other thing with the GAC,

2478
01:53:21,600 --> 01:53:23,920
essentially it's got more surface area.

2479
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:26,080
It'll take out more,

2480
01:53:26,080 --> 01:53:27,200
it'll take out more pollutants,

2481
01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:29,760
it'll function as taste and order

2482
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,520
on an ongoing continuous basis

2483
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,160
rather than when you think you need it.

2484
01:53:38,520 --> 01:53:40,040
It's also gonna be a better material

2485
01:53:40,440 --> 01:53:43,080
for what we call emerging contaminants,

2486
01:53:43,080 --> 01:53:47,000
pesticides, fertilizers, pharmaceuticals,

2487
01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,400
things that people tend to flush down their toilet

2488
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:52,600
that do not get removed at the wastewater plant

2489
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:54,160
that end up in the lake,

2490
01:53:56,840 --> 01:54:00,760
which then we treat the drink.

2491
01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:02,840
So those are the large items in the change

2492
01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:07,120
or I'm happy to go through any of the other items on here.

2493
01:54:08,120 --> 01:54:12,200
But as I said, I think we're in a good position,

2494
01:54:12,200 --> 01:54:14,280
you know, knock on wood again here

2495
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:16,600
that we're gonna finish up

2496
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,120
with the money that we have available.

2497
01:54:22,120 --> 01:54:24,120
All right, thank you.

2498
01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:27,120
Yeah, I think this is all reasonable stuff.

2499
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,120
And yeah, it's once again,

2500
01:54:29,120 --> 01:54:32,120
a lot of stuff that should have been caught earlier,

2501
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:37,080
but it's not an expense that we wouldn't have had

2502
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:38,400
if we had been caught earlier,

2503
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:39,600
we'd be paying for this anyway.

2504
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:42,800
So it's, I don't see it as being, you know,

2505
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:46,880
something extravagant or unneeded.

2506
01:54:46,880 --> 01:54:51,280
So that said, any questions or comments on the board?

2507
01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:52,120
Yes.

2508
01:54:52,120 --> 01:54:53,280
I just have one small comment.

2509
01:54:53,280 --> 01:54:55,440
I was fortunate enough to be able to have a tour

2510
01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,080
with Dan and Roger.

2511
01:54:57,080 --> 01:55:01,600
And it was very evident that the former plant manager

2512
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:03,080
and the current plant manager

2513
01:55:03,080 --> 01:55:05,800
had different visions for this project

2514
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:09,720
and due to this change,

2515
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:13,600
we were very fortunate because our current plant manager

2516
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:15,760
has a vision that aligns with the future

2517
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:20,480
and this is our opportunity to make these corrections

2518
01:55:20,480 --> 01:55:24,200
before we have to rip things apart and start over again.

2519
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,400
So I would make a motion

2520
01:55:27,400 --> 01:55:31,040
to approve the staff recommendation.

2521
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:32,680
All right, we have a motion on the floor

2522
01:55:32,720 --> 01:55:34,880
from older woman Miller.

2523
01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:35,760
Is there a second?

2524
01:55:35,760 --> 01:55:36,760
I'll second.

2525
01:55:36,760 --> 01:55:39,760
Second from Mr. Pauli.

2526
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,400
Any discussion on the motion?

2527
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,920
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

2528
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:45,840
Aye.

2529
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:46,680
Opposed?

2530
01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:48,480
Motion carries.

2531
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,120
And I will offer anybody else on the board

2532
01:55:51,120 --> 01:55:52,360
would like to take a tour to plant

2533
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,680
which we're happy to walk you through.

2534
01:55:54,680 --> 01:55:58,280
I'm fascinated by the process, you know.

2535
01:55:59,440 --> 01:56:01,320
It's a good tour to take them up on it.

2536
01:56:03,560 --> 01:56:06,040
All right, that brings us to item nine,

2537
01:56:06,040 --> 01:56:07,960
consideration and possible action

2538
01:56:07,960 --> 01:56:10,680
on a revised proposal from Gremmer and Associates

2539
01:56:10,680 --> 01:56:14,480
to design the proposed 2027 street improvements.

2540
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:15,320
Here, can you?

2541
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:18,720
Well, this is coming up, I'll just lead into it.

2542
01:56:18,720 --> 01:56:23,720
So JD bailed, but essentially January we approved

2543
01:56:24,720 --> 01:56:27,720
the scope of work for Gremmer for 2027.

2544
01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:31,720
And then as pays the results got in,

2545
01:56:31,720 --> 01:56:35,720
we talked to JD, Rob and I talked a little bit more

2546
01:56:35,720 --> 01:56:38,720
to ourselves, we kind of thought, you know,

2547
01:56:38,720 --> 01:56:43,720
Holden running up from James up to Berry

2548
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,720
is even though it's, well, James,

2549
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:49,720
the North part is not that old.

2550
01:56:49,720 --> 01:56:54,720
And then Jefferson, the Walters, not that old,

2551
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:57,720
we just thought it would be best to overlay it.

2552
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:00,720
So not do complete street reconstruction,

2553
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,720
but to include an overlay on that

2554
01:57:03,720 --> 01:57:07,720
and then take the reconstruction up to Berry

2555
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:09,720
from North part to Berry.

2556
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:20,720
Okay.

2557
01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:31,720
That it?

2558
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:36,720
So I don't know if we can get that on screen.

2559
01:57:36,720 --> 01:57:38,720
Well, if we can't get it on screen, that's fine.

2560
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:39,720
It's in your packet.

2561
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:43,720
There we go.

2562
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:45,720
Yeah.

2563
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:51,720
So you can kind of see this green area.

2564
01:57:51,720 --> 01:57:53,720
Let me zoom a little.

2565
01:57:56,720 --> 01:57:59,720
The green area is what we were planning on doing.

2566
01:57:59,720 --> 01:58:02,720
The blue area we'd like to include

2567
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:04,720
as what we would call a millen overlay.

2568
01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:06,720
For anyone that's not familiar with that,

2569
01:58:06,720 --> 01:58:10,720
that basically just means we take off the surface of the asphalt

2570
01:58:10,720 --> 01:58:13,720
and put new surface down for the asphalt.

2571
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:16,720
So everything else stays in place.

2572
01:58:16,720 --> 01:58:21,720
And then the red up top here is,

2573
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:25,720
we would like to add that as part of our reconstruction.

2574
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:30,720
We have money in our design budget to do this work.

2575
01:58:34,720 --> 01:58:37,720
I'm just going to say with construction budget,

2576
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:42,720
with current events in Iran, asphalt's more expensive,

2577
01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:46,720
plastic pipes more expensive, diesel fuels more expensive.

2578
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:49,720
I don't know if we will be able to construct all this,

2579
01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,720
but I would like to get the design done.

2580
01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:53,720
Okay.

2581
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:57,720
So with the green area being changed to an overlay

2582
01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,720
on Holden between Fairview and James,

2583
01:58:59,720 --> 01:59:02,720
there's a lot of water main breaks in there.

2584
01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:03,720
Let me back up.

2585
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:05,720
The green would still stay as reconstructed.

2586
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:06,720
Okay.

2587
01:59:06,720 --> 01:59:07,720
Green still reconstruction.

2588
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:08,720
Okay.

2589
01:59:08,720 --> 01:59:09,720
So green and red is reconstruction.

2590
01:59:09,720 --> 01:59:10,720
Okay.

2591
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,720
So the purple is what is becoming just an overlay.

2592
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:14,720
Yes.

2593
01:59:14,720 --> 01:59:15,720
Okay.

2594
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:16,720
All right.

2595
01:59:16,720 --> 01:59:24,720
Then I'm not quite so concerned about that.

2596
01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:27,720
This is to be done in all of 2027.

2597
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:30,720
Is it going to be one continuous street closure

2598
01:59:30,720 --> 01:59:32,720
or will it be done in sections?

2599
01:59:32,720 --> 01:59:35,720
So design will be done in all of 2027.

2600
01:59:35,720 --> 01:59:36,720
Okay.

2601
01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:41,720
Ideally construction will be all in 2028 as one project.

2602
01:59:41,720 --> 01:59:45,720
But as I said, we may not have construction dollars to do it all.

2603
01:59:45,720 --> 01:59:49,720
So that that'll be something we'll have to work through in a budget process.

2604
01:59:49,720 --> 01:59:51,720
That would be summer.

2605
01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:56,720
Most likely our road projects tend to start in late March,

2606
01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:59,720
early April and run through September.

2607
01:59:59,720 --> 02:00:03,720
So this would be set up because it is between the two schools.

2608
02:00:03,720 --> 02:00:06,720
We would have to set this up as work.

2609
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:07,720
Work starts.

2610
02:00:07,720 --> 02:00:10,720
And we have a large summer school program there.

2611
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:23,720
So I'm just, it needs to be done, but that's very busy road.

2612
02:00:23,720 --> 02:00:25,720
I'm sorry.

2613
02:00:26,720 --> 02:00:29,720
26 is design 27 is construction.

2614
02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:31,720
Yeah.

2615
02:00:31,720 --> 02:00:32,720
Sure.

2616
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:33,720
Yep.

2617
02:00:33,720 --> 02:00:36,720
Seven one.

2618
02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:40,720
Seven one question.

2619
02:00:40,720 --> 02:00:44,720
So I think it makes it's logical to do the design work now.

2620
02:00:44,720 --> 02:00:47,720
I think since it's all relative to each other,

2621
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:53,720
if for some reason we can't do a portion of the construction due to financial constraints,

2622
02:00:53,720 --> 02:00:58,720
how long are those designs typically good for?

2623
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:02,720
Like, would there be a chance we have to go back and do design work if we had to push it off a couple of years?

2624
02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:06,720
For a project like this, no, if it's within a couple of years.

2625
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:13,720
And especially this neighborhood, you know, what would trigger redesign would be if there's like new development or something else.

2626
02:01:13,720 --> 02:01:19,720
And you got a new driveway or something that you're trying to accommodate that wasn't there before.

2627
02:01:20,720 --> 02:01:27,720
But generally, the thing that changes the most that could potentially change most would be like a survey cross section.

2628
02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:30,720
And this is basically built up neighborhood.

2629
02:01:30,720 --> 02:01:34,720
I would not anticipate anything here changing in five years time.

2630
02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:35,720
Yeah.

2631
02:01:35,720 --> 02:01:38,720
Your DNR permits expire after a couple of years.

2632
02:01:38,720 --> 02:01:41,720
But other than that, yeah.

2633
02:01:41,720 --> 02:01:48,720
I don't see anything design wise on this that I would probably be good for 10 years or more without any major change.

2634
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:55,720
Any other comments or questions?

2635
02:01:55,720 --> 02:01:56,720
No.

2636
02:01:56,720 --> 02:02:01,720
Seeing none, I will entertain a motion on this item.

2637
02:02:07,720 --> 02:02:09,720
I'll make a motion to approve.

2638
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:10,720
All right.

2639
02:02:10,720 --> 02:02:12,720
We have a motion from older woman Miller.

2640
02:02:12,720 --> 02:02:13,720
Is there a second?

2641
02:02:13,720 --> 02:02:14,720
Second.

2642
02:02:15,720 --> 02:02:16,720
We have a second.

2643
02:02:16,720 --> 02:02:19,720
Any questions on the motion?

2644
02:02:19,720 --> 02:02:20,720
Seeing none.

2645
02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:22,720
All those in favor say aye.

2646
02:02:22,720 --> 02:02:23,720
Aye.

2647
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:24,720
Opposed?

2648
02:02:24,720 --> 02:02:25,720
Motion carries.

2649
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:26,720
All right.

2650
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:33,720
That brings us to item 10 consideration and possible action on the municipal separated storm sewer system.

2651
02:02:33,720 --> 02:02:36,720
MS4 permit annual report.

2652
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:40,720
The always super exciting MS4 report.

2653
02:02:44,720 --> 02:02:59,720
It's the most exciting thing we do all year.

2654
02:02:59,720 --> 02:03:00,720
All right.

2655
02:03:00,720 --> 02:03:02,720
It's been a long night.

2656
02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:13,720
So, the MS4 reports in there, if anybody wants to reach out to me and ask questions, please do.

2657
02:03:13,720 --> 02:03:15,720
The bottom line.

2658
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:26,720
So, let me just give you a little background that because the size of what Port Washington

2659
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:33,720
is, we are required to have a stormwater permit under DNR rule and our 216, which includes

2660
02:03:33,720 --> 02:03:38,720
this MS4, which is municipal separate storm sewer system.

2661
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:40,720
This is a mall phone.

2662
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:41,720
I usually forget one of the essence.

2663
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:43,720
So, MS4 is what we call it.

2664
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:47,720
You might hear some people call it a 216 per minute community.

2665
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:54,720
So, we need to report to the DNR on an annual basis what we've done related to stormwater.

2666
02:03:54,720 --> 02:04:03,720
So, we inspect our publicly owned stormwater detention ponds and rain gardens and infiltration

2667
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:13,720
We, a lot of the subdivisions and stuff will self inspect their detention ponds report that

2668
02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:14,720
to us.

2669
02:04:14,720 --> 02:04:21,720
We'll do some audits of their inspections and some will just go out and inspect.

2670
02:04:21,720 --> 02:04:28,720
We have to check our outfall, our large outfalls to see if there's anything that's connected

2671
02:04:28,720 --> 02:04:35,720
into the storm sewer that shouldn't be connected like a sanitary sewer or some sort of industrial

2672
02:04:35,720 --> 02:04:39,720
runoff.

2673
02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:46,720
We have to do some public education and outreach, which we contract.

2674
02:04:46,720 --> 02:04:51,720
Sweet water, which kind of does that through Southeast Wisconsin.

2675
02:04:51,720 --> 02:04:52,720
And they do it.

2676
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:54,720
So, they have a lot of communities.

2677
02:04:54,720 --> 02:04:56,720
So, they got a bigger budget.

2678
02:04:56,720 --> 02:05:05,720
They can do some real outreach versus us trying to do it on their own.

2679
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:07,720
Construction site pollution control, that's a big one.

2680
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:14,720
So, all of our commercial developments over an acre and this year we have six.

2681
02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:21,720
We have to, as part of our MS4, we need to do monthly inspections.

2682
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:27,720
Any construction site over an acre is required to do weekly.

2683
02:05:27,720 --> 02:05:35,720
So, if it's our project, like the road project, county highway, all public safety building.

2684
02:05:35,720 --> 02:05:38,720
We inspect those weekly and required.

2685
02:05:38,720 --> 02:05:42,720
So, all that gets reported to DNR.

2686
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:47,720
So, I guess the kind of bottom line, we're in pretty good shape with our storm water.

2687
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:49,720
It can always get better.

2688
02:05:49,720 --> 02:05:53,720
It's sort of like what JD said with the salt.

2689
02:05:53,720 --> 02:06:03,720
Anything that anybody throws on the ground, on the road, near the road, near a drain, geologically

2690
02:06:03,720 --> 02:06:10,720
speaking, is a short trip from there to the lake to our drinking water.

2691
02:06:10,720 --> 02:06:16,720
So, we just want people to be conscientious of, don't throw it on the ground unless you

2692
02:06:16,720 --> 02:06:20,720
want to drink it, basically.

2693
02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:28,720
So, I guess I do need a motion for a permit to accept a report.

2694
02:06:28,720 --> 02:06:34,720
If anybody would like, full copy reports in your packet, if anybody would like to sit

2695
02:06:34,720 --> 02:06:39,720
down with me outside this meeting or I can come back at another meeting and go into more

2696
02:06:39,720 --> 02:06:43,720
detail with it, but I guess in the interest of time tonight, I'll keep it.

2697
02:06:43,720 --> 02:06:45,720
I won't say any more.

2698
02:06:45,720 --> 02:06:49,720
I'd move to accept the MS4 annual report.

2699
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:52,720
Is that line by staff?

2700
02:06:52,720 --> 02:07:00,720
All right, we have a motion by Mr. Pauli or Mr. Haley.

2701
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:02,720
Is there a second?

2702
02:07:02,720 --> 02:07:03,720
Yes.

2703
02:07:03,720 --> 02:07:06,720
Yes, second by Alderman Miller.

2704
02:07:06,720 --> 02:07:09,720
Any questions on the motion?

2705
02:07:09,720 --> 02:07:12,720
Seeing none, all those in favor say aye.

2706
02:07:12,720 --> 02:07:13,720
Aye.

2707
02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:14,720
Opposed?

2708
02:07:14,720 --> 02:07:15,720
Motion carries.

2709
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:22,720
All right, that brings us to item 11, first quarter update on 2026 charter.

2710
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:30,720
Okay, so, yeah, as Roger stated, it's been a long evening of presentations.

2711
02:07:30,720 --> 02:07:41,720
Hopefully you've had a moment to go through our charter, so we track our progress on each

2712
02:07:41,720 --> 02:07:48,160
of the many items that are covered through our Department of Public Works, which we as

2713
02:07:48,160 --> 02:07:53,400
a team meet monthly and go over this so that everyone knows what, I guess, what everyone

2714
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:55,640
else is doing.

2715
02:07:55,640 --> 02:08:04,480
Many of these items come up regularly to the board that, so you're tracking the progress

2716
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:05,960
along with us.

2717
02:08:05,960 --> 02:08:11,960
Are there any questions about any of the projects that we're working on?

2718
02:08:11,960 --> 02:08:16,600
Let's go to that, but if you would like me to go down the list, I can't go down the

2719
02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:17,600
list.

2720
02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:21,200
I think the only question I would have is, is there anything that's off track, like a

2721
02:08:21,200 --> 02:08:30,600
high degree off track at this point, no, nothing, I mean, nothing of great significance.

2722
02:08:30,600 --> 02:08:38,960
We had our directional drilling project for the bluff.

2723
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:43,080
We had that out for bid last month, and unfortunately, we didn't get any bidders, so we need to

2724
02:08:43,080 --> 02:08:48,040
rebit it, so that's, at least not, it's not off track so that we won't get it done, but

2725
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:51,160
it's not in the schedule we had hoped for.

2726
02:08:51,160 --> 02:08:53,560
And the bluff says it's not happening fast enough.

2727
02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:59,400
Right, yeah, right, right, so Mother Nature reminds us that she's always in charge, but

2728
02:08:59,400 --> 02:09:04,360
yeah, so we're anxious to get that work done.

2729
02:09:04,360 --> 02:09:10,760
In my staff report, I mentioned we Energies is doing a similar project, and so we should

2730
02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:16,320
probably reach out to them and see who's doing it if they have a contractor.

2731
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:22,640
So again, we weren't expecting that because we had nine, eight or nine contractors take

2732
02:09:22,640 --> 02:09:32,240
out a bid set, so we certainly expected to have a robust selection of contractors to

2733
02:09:32,240 --> 02:09:36,400
choose from, but that was not the case.

2734
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:44,800
One of our projects that is in our charter and was budgeted for this year is work on

2735
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:47,400
the Egerert House.

2736
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:52,560
They are taking that on themselves with money that they receive from vantage and through

2737
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:59,960
private donations, so they're doing, I think, about $150,000 of upgrades to that house,

2738
02:09:59,960 --> 02:10:04,760
so that's great, and I guess I would say it had a schedule.

2739
02:10:04,760 --> 02:10:12,320
As far as development goes, if you drive out to Highland Point, you'll see houses going

2740
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:15,200
up quite rapidly.

2741
02:10:15,200 --> 02:10:22,600
So, and the same thing in Hidden Hills North, there's really rapid development of all these

2742
02:10:22,600 --> 02:10:25,400
housing projects.

2743
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:32,160
Sidewalk Project, Roger, should begin when?

2744
02:10:32,160 --> 02:10:38,520
Well, by the end of this month, we basically just need to work through insurance on the

2745
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:39,520
contract.

2746
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:44,800
Yep, and that's our 2025 Sidewalk Project, so we still have 2026 to take care of.

2747
02:10:44,800 --> 02:10:52,160
Sheet piloting project over on the Division Street Box culvert that is not started yet,

2748
02:10:52,160 --> 02:10:58,360
but that should be complete by June 30th, is the contract deadline for that.

2749
02:10:58,360 --> 02:11:08,840
Public safety building is on schedule to be complete in as early as mid-June, or it could

2750
02:11:08,840 --> 02:11:14,560
be as late as mid-July.

2751
02:11:14,560 --> 02:11:23,800
Yeah, what about what's going on with the Spring Street Santeri sewer project?

2752
02:11:23,800 --> 02:11:33,440
Yeah, so that project is, okay, we'll get restarted at the end of the month, but that

2753
02:11:33,440 --> 02:11:38,680
has been a bit of a challenge, we started it in winter and there's some directional

2754
02:11:38,680 --> 02:11:48,320
drilling underneath the railroad track and unfortunately the directional drill hit part

2755
02:11:48,320 --> 02:11:55,440
of what we think is an old portion of the underpass that was there.

2756
02:11:55,440 --> 02:12:01,320
Even though we did soil borings, the railroad limits where you can do the soil borings and

2757
02:12:01,320 --> 02:12:08,080
unfortunately, once we hit it, they would not allow us to continue drilling.

2758
02:12:08,080 --> 02:12:13,360
We wanted to keep drilling through the abutment, but they would not let us, and so that project

2759
02:12:13,360 --> 02:12:15,560
has been delayed.

2760
02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:21,440
I just have one small question.

2761
02:12:21,440 --> 02:12:26,960
The design, Marina North Building improvements, this project delays remind me why, if you've

2762
02:12:26,960 --> 02:12:27,960
told me before.

2763
02:12:27,960 --> 02:12:34,440
Yeah, that's been discussed, that's something that I believe the Council would like to see

2764
02:12:34,440 --> 02:12:38,440
delayed at least for this year.

2765
02:12:38,440 --> 02:12:42,000
All right, any other comments?

2766
02:12:42,000 --> 02:12:45,800
It's not the construction of it, that was just the design improvements.

2767
02:12:45,800 --> 02:12:49,600
All right, any other comments, questions?

2768
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:56,760
All right, seeing none, then we will move on to item 12, well, review monthly staff reports.

2769
02:12:56,760 --> 02:13:02,280
Yeah, and again, I'll take any questions.

2770
02:13:02,280 --> 02:13:10,560
You know, I have the Ozaki County Clean Sweep is May 2nd, and coincidentally, they don't

2771
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:16,700
take electronic items, but I had someone from a company out of Sheboygan that does this

2772
02:13:16,700 --> 02:13:22,360
asking if they could do an electronics collection event in Port Washington, so paired well,

2773
02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:32,600
and they're coordinating with the Ozaki County Food Pantry, or our food, let's see,

2774
02:13:32,600 --> 02:13:36,920
I don't know if it's the poor Washington or the Ozaki, but in any case, our food pantry

2775
02:13:36,920 --> 02:13:40,820
on Grand Avenue, so that's where they're going to have an electronics collection on

2776
02:13:40,820 --> 02:13:44,080
June 13th, so I have the flyer in here.

2777
02:13:44,080 --> 02:13:50,520
There's a volunteer event for tree planting up in Birchwood Hills and in Upper Lake Park,

2778
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:59,480
so we've removed invasives, and so now we're planting hundreds of trees in both of these

2779
02:13:59,480 --> 02:14:06,880
locations with both Stantec screws and some volunteer forces from Vantage will be on

2780
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:13,600
site as well as LNRP, so that I'm going to say whether depending is going to take place

2781
02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:19,600
April 22nd.

2782
02:14:19,600 --> 02:14:27,520
Other than that, usually we're getting into tree planting and street sweeping, and we

2783
02:14:27,520 --> 02:14:31,560
have a couple of new employees who started last month, one in water and one in wastewater,

2784
02:14:31,560 --> 02:14:39,600
so we're excited to be back at full staffing for those positions, so especially well for

2785
02:14:39,600 --> 02:14:40,600
both of them.

2786
02:14:40,600 --> 02:14:44,680
In wastewater, we only have three operators, so when you're down one person, you're missing

2787
02:14:44,680 --> 02:14:52,640
33% of your staff, so we're excited to have that new employee on board, Josh Meyer, and

2788
02:14:52,640 --> 02:15:00,960
then in water is our replacement for what's primarily a second shift operator, and again,

2789
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:06,480
when there's only four operators, well, everyone can operate the plant, but there's four shifts,

2790
02:15:06,480 --> 02:15:12,320
and so when one of your shifts is missing, people are substituting for that in that role,

2791
02:15:12,320 --> 02:15:17,560
and so puts a lot of pressure on the people that are on staff, so grateful to the people

2792
02:15:17,560 --> 02:15:23,920
who stepped in, but I know they're very happy to, again, be at full staff down there.

2793
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:31,120
All right, yes, and we'll move on to item 13, Chairman's Business.

2794
02:15:31,120 --> 02:15:37,320
I really don't have any, I'm happy to see that Lake Drive Reconstruction, LL, will not

2795
02:15:37,320 --> 02:15:45,360
happen concurrently as the original schedule had it, and good to see that LL gets repaved

2796
02:15:45,360 --> 02:15:48,320
coming up pretty soon.

2797
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:52,760
Moving on to item 14, is there any members of the liaisons business?

2798
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:58,640
Nope, seeing none, move to item 15, public comments and appearances, any public comments

2799
02:15:58,640 --> 02:15:59,640
or appearances?

2800
02:15:59,640 --> 02:16:01,840
It doesn't look it.

2801
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:09,240
All right, our next meeting will be May 12th, 2026, at 5.30pm in this room, as stated before

2802
02:16:09,240 --> 02:16:17,240
in one of our emotions, and with that, we will look for a motion to adjourn.

2803
02:16:17,240 --> 02:16:18,600
So we have a motion to adjourn.

2804
02:16:18,600 --> 02:16:19,600
Is there a second?

2805
02:16:19,600 --> 02:16:20,600
Second.

2806
02:16:20,600 --> 02:16:21,600
A motion to second.

2807
02:16:21,600 --> 02:16:22,600
All in favors.

2808
02:16:22,600 --> 02:16:23,600
Say aye.

2809
02:16:23,600 --> 02:16:24,600
Aye.

2810
02:16:24,600 --> 02:16:25,600
Opposed?

2811
02:16:25,600 --> 02:16:26,600
We are adjourned.

2812
02:16:26,600 --> 02:16:27,600
All in favor?

2813
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:28,600
Aye.

2814
02:16:28,600 --> 02:16:29,600
Aye.

2815
02:16:29,600 --> 02:16:30,600
Aye.

2816
02:16:30,600 --> 02:16:31,600
Aye.

2817
02:16:31,600 --> 02:16:32,600
Aye.

2818
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:33,600
Aye.

2819
02:16:33,600 --> 02:16:34,600
Aye.

2820
02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:35,600
Aye.

2821
02:16:35,600 --> 02:16:36,600
Aye.

2822
02:16:36,600 --> 02:16:37,600
Aye.

2823
02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:38,600
Aye.

2824
02:16:38,600 --> 02:16:39,600
Aye.

2825
02:16:39,600 --> 02:16:40,600
Aye.

2826
02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:41,600
Aye.

2827
02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:42,600
Aye.

2828
02:16:42,600 --> 02:16:43,600
Aye.

2829
02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:44,600
Aye.

2830
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:45,600
Aye.